You literally hit the nail on the head for Dell & HP, hell if they could get have a more accurate slogan it would be "We offer you the most outdated minimal speced machine for top-tier pricing & most of you will end up buy it cause you'd rather follow big brand names than spec-based performance"
While browsing several companies that sell pre-built gaming PCs, I was amazed at how many models had a discrete video card, yet still paired it with a Ryzen APU. What a waste of resources. The only advantage I can see is if your video card dies, you can always use the APU until you get a replacement card.
unless you're running a VFIO virtual machine with GPU passthrough... that's something pretty valid to me. If you upgrade the RAM enough, you could realistically have a double system going, 3 physical cores per system, and both can be running and playing games with their own peripheral hardware attached. Or you can run the host OS as a file/game/voip server, and then use the guest OS to do whatever.
5600/5600x would've made more sense cause obviously you can't use both igpu and gpu at same time And pcie 4.0 can benefit rx 6400 and 6500xt a lot which 5600G doesn't support
I mean if you pick it up cheap you can always change that setup. For someone who just needs something cheap to start gaming or doing anything it'll do.
the iGPU could be used for virtualization if you use the dGPU for VFIO passthrough, or you could use it for dedicated transcoding/encoding for screen capture/streaming. For a content creator, doing Twitch Streaming or screen captures while simultaneously using the dedicated graphics, this kind of setup would be great. Also pretty sure some video editing software like DaVinci Resolve supports parallel encoding across multiple GPU's and the CPU.
Better Ram makes a difference in the Geekbench scores on HP prebuilts. Mine went upto 7300-ish multicore when I added a $50 DDR4-3200 CL16 kit. I started out with 8G of HP branded ram. Added another HP 8G stick from a 3200G system and that got close to your score. When I swapped it out for a PNY 16G kit I got 7300-ish.
I'm more interested in the RX 6600 variant. True, it's more expensive but you'd get a better GPU. Now, some people in the comments say that the 5600G bottlenecks any PCI-E 4.0 compliant GPU but I certainly have seen worse video cards coupled with this particular APU, so I don't feel it's that big of an issue.
I just picked this exact system up second hand pretty cheap. Added 2 120mm fans, one at the side intake and other at the rear and I also modified the CPU cooler with another 120mm fan and a custom shroud made out of two layers of thick a$$ electrical tape lol upgraded to 16GB ram and added 1TB WD HDD. I will be getting a 5700G and swapping out that RX6400 for a 6600XT or 3060Ti, possibly swap out the PSU for the 500W if I can find one. For me, it's a great value. The entire system is going to cost about $500 after I acquire the GPU used. Yes, I had to hack the exhaust fan to fit and slightly mod the case. Isn't jank, fan is secure and it runs much cooler.
I bought an Optiplex 5040 SFF with an i5-6400, bought a 16GB DDR3L 1600MHz kit of RAM for it and an HP RX6400 from eBay. Total cost of the PC was around $180 or so and it's around the same performance give or take a few frames due to the weaker CPU.
Assuming motherboard's HDMI out works, you could sell the RX6400, add one 8GB DIMM, and get a cheap office PC out of it. Probably better choices out there for that, though.
529$ Walmart HP Victus 15L TG-0XX - I am running this machine with no problems. Upgrades are Corsair Gen 4 2 TB SSD/ Corsair 32GB RAM. Im a flight/driving simmer and on every program I run, Im well over 100 fps. Get an air filter, eliminating contaminants inside for unit for longer computer life.
For people who dont know how to build your own pc it's OK. I would prefer to build something based on K39 or Metalfish S3 and for apu builds Akyga AK-101-01BK really fun cheap itx case with 150w PSU under 50$
1:14 Literally 19.84$ /s Also, I think that RX 6400 is a bit questionable given the fact that it's running at PCIe 3.0 speeds, but idk how much more it would've costed to get a 1650 instead. Another edit just to say that for this PC I would personally pair it with something like an RX 6600, which comes at about 100$ less than the 3060 nowadays even though RT isn't as good.
By the tests I've seen, even on PCIe 3 the RX 6400 still edges out the 1650 on average. Of course, if you want any encoding support, the RX 6400 doesn't have it, while the 1650 does. Obviously, the RX 6600 would be a great upgrade.
@PolecanePC I believe HP chose the 5600G because the 5600X was more expensive, the 5300G only had 4 cores, and the 5600 didn't exist at the time they chose the specs for these. But yeah it's a hilarious confirmation
My 16 year old wants to get this for his soon to be 6 year old brother to get him into PC gaming. My 6 year old already plays on a PS5 and Xbox Series X. I’m trying to justify purchasing this, my older son says he wants to teach him how to use a computer which is great! I’ll take any and all opinions if I should or not. Found one on Amazon for around $400-500
Modern Vintage Gamer released a video recently about a new version of the X360 emulation that upthe performance a lot, it is worth trying for those low-end systems
This PC should've came with 12100 or 12100F instead since it offers PCIE 4.0 and also much cheaper, even with an H610m board will do for this PC. Overall price will be lower this way and you get that full PCIE 4.0 performance for the RX 6400.
Not only that but believe it or not the 12100 can hang in there with much higher performance CPUs in gaming. For the money and considering the low core count it's a real budget banger.
@@Berserkism For gaming, I'd have to agree. Video games take better advantage of a few really fast threads than they do a lot of moderately fast threads.
You can upgrade the GPU/RAM/SSD. But I doubt upgrading the CPU cooler would be easy or even possible (some OEM PCs have proprietary mounting). Probably the motherboard is proprietary, and maybe even the PSU. Just build it yourself, you can make a PC a lot better built for the same money, not even talking about more future-proof.
Really nice system. Price is decent. I saw it today in my local Micros mElectronic store in Zurich, Switzerland. It was older model with Intel, but the price was really decent (especially considering retail prices in physical shops in Switzerland). I really like the case. It is nice. It would be nice if there was another full length PCIe slot, with few PCIe lanes, to put something like a better NIC, 1Gbps is really meh these days, but for budget computer it is still something worth recommending. With 16GB RAM, and slightly better GPU, it really is very good system.
question: would the color of your computer effect its temperature? since the color black absorbs more light, would a black computer have a higher temperature than a white computer?
My son keeps breaking my all in one monitors so I ‘d rather buy a pc/gaming system and if he breaks the screeen it’ll be ok to buy another screen for $150 vs another 1k I am on my 3rd computer so this will due for a Black Friday deal from HP combined with my employee work discount I got this for $360! I’m satisfied gaming isn’t required for me. Good review!
With this CPU the biggest disadvantage of this GPU is not there. The RX 6400,6500 must be combined with a CPU with iGPU. Maybe I will built a mini ITX PC with a 5600G and RX 6400. The 6400 is still the lowest DGPU and its way faster as the best iGPU.
PCIe4x4 on PCIe3 cuts your already limited bandwidth in half. You can't get the max performance out of the 6400 with a 5600g It's one thing if it's an upgrade down the line and you start with the 5600g and igpu but the 6600 would be better since at least it uses 8 lanes
Unfortunately for the RX 6400/6500 XT, the IGP on the 5600G/5700G has an actual encode/decode suite, the only codec that Vega 7/8 doesn't support is AV1 but it supports everything else, by comparison the RX 6400 and 6500 XT only support h.264 and h.265, and that's all she
I'm getting my desktop and I want to know if Victus is better than Pavilion Heres the specs Pavilion: CPU : AMD Ryzen 5600g GPU: RX 5500 RAM: 8 GB SSD: 256 GB Victus: CPU: i3-12100F GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 RAM: 8 GB SSD: 512 GB
I really starting to like these prebuild systems! It's a good basis and a little bit of an adventure. *With these prebuild systems you should always check the PSU wattage because a OEM PSU without the correct connectors or wattage can mean a dead end in terms of upgrades!* From 400 watts+ it's starting to get very interesting, because it often means you have separate GPU connectors (6 Pin) which ar often needed for a beefier GPU.
Terrible base to build on. Uses an hp proprietary layout, with hp proprietary mounting holes for a cooler, with an hp proprietary psu. This computer is only a base for a cpu and a gpu, both of which are overpriced with this oem.
@@tag206 This computer is for people who wants a working computer and not another DIY project. With shifting perspective away to more important things it can be a relief to use such a prebuild system. And for 400 bucks it's worth its money.
Proprietary Connectors again... proprietary cooler mounting... proprietary power supply... do not reccomend this to anyone please! You can't upgrade this at all!
In regards to upgrading the GPU, would you go with a MSI Aero ITX Nvidia RTX 3060 12GB OC edition or a Zotac Gaming GeForce RTX 3060 12GB? I believe one is smaller (Aero ITX only has one fan) so I’m not sure if the other would even fit
I am not sure if this would be worth purchasing over something like the xbox series x or series s as those bot have emulating capabilities and have overall better specs than this desktop. Idk what do you all think?
I always watch your stuff I decided on this chip due to seeing you build a PC with this chip before so I got mine just bought 8gb ram to upgrade to 16 GB was thinking of selling the graphics card on eBay and seeing how cheap I could get the PC down to and save up for a better card maybe idk tho
I Dont get how anyone can call a " gaming " pc without dual channel ram... and these HP /Dell etc budget systems always use the worst of CPU coolers / memory 02:12 even if its a 5600g 60c on 30+ watts 71c on 60watts ??? jesus HP need add a 120 aio or some basic decent cooler
Savvy shopping eBay over Wal-Mart. If the USB i-o is there, this also is a decentt buy for a starter home server; e.g. plug in a few drives (ssds) for a little TrueNas/FreeNas either on bare metal or ProxMox.
What are you going to do with yours? I just got mine today and am going to add 2x16gb ram, a 2tb 2.5" SSD, and I might swap out the m2 SSD for a 2Tb. All of those parts cost me about $170, so that would put me well around $450 total all in. Not too bad. I think I would have had to spend several hundred more at least to get something with a 3060 and it would have less RAM and storage.
What would be a good 8 GB stick to pair with this? If I sell off the GPU and add my 1660 Super to it instead this makes for a pretty good upgrade over my current setup.
You mentioned that you wouldn't go much higher than an RTX 3060. But I'm hoping to get a 16 GB graphics card in there. Is that even a possibility or am I just totally screwed?
I bought the model before this one, with a ryzen 5 5600g, an rx5500 and 8gb ram and 256gb ssd for like $800 on clearance after taxes and with 4 year warranty, its my understanding that the rx 5500 is slighty better than the rx 6400 idk if thats true
i think it'll trade punches with this one probably, but gpu prices were probably a bit higher when you bought yours i guess. what i don't like about HP and DELL is the godamn proprietary motherboard. the important thing at the end of the day is if it suit your needs
@@bzipoli i bought it like a month ago from Walmart(I'm from Puerto Rico everything is more expensive here that's why I paid almost $800 for it) but it's served me well and i just today installed 16gb of ram and sold my original 8gb and it's way faster now for games like i was getting around 80fps in battlefront 2 on high setting with 8gb and now I'm getting around 112-120fps so it's quite better performance
Hey ETA, How did you get the wattage to show for the GPU? I have an EVGA RTX 2060. My MSI afterburner will only show voltage and power usage percentile. Everything else comes up just fine. Just not wattage. Done everything from reset to stock, to a clean install...
Thank you! Beautiful video! I have a doubt: I have the version with I7 12700F + RTX 3060TI. Is it normal for the GPU, full load, 2560 x 1080 (starfield ultra settings), to have a temperature of 82° celsius? I didn't touch anything, I just updated the official drivers with GeForce Xperience.
I have the 3060ti aswell. U can undervolt the 3060. it helps. mine was also at 80• and after the undervolting it is at 65-68• at the same Performance. look up for tutorials Sorry for my bad english.
I just bought a brand new one for $260 - you say you could put a 3060 in here but isn't the PSU only 350w in this? My understanding is that is not enough, but I'm not very knowledgeable about this stuff.
I love how HP & Dell computers look all modern & what not on the outside but on the inside it's like it's 2004 in there all over again
Ikr. Kinda refreshing in a way though. You ALWAYS know what it's gonna be like inside.
@@KiteAndKeyProductions And there's no garish RGBlegh to ruin it.
You literally hit the nail on the head for Dell & HP, hell if they could get have a more accurate slogan it would be "We offer you the most outdated minimal speced machine for top-tier pricing & most of you will end up buy it cause you'd rather follow big brand names than spec-based performance"
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How much performance does it add to not look like 2004?
While browsing several companies that sell pre-built gaming PCs, I was amazed at how many models had a discrete video card, yet still paired it with a Ryzen APU. What a waste of resources. The only advantage I can see is if your video card dies, you can always use the APU until you get a replacement card.
unless you're running a VFIO virtual machine with GPU passthrough... that's something pretty valid to me. If you upgrade the RAM enough, you could realistically have a double system going, 3 physical cores per system, and both can be running and playing games with their own peripheral hardware attached. Or you can run the host OS as a file/game/voip server, and then use the guest OS to do whatever.
you could also use the iGPU for dedicated transcoding for streaming to TwitchTV without need for a capture card.
5600/5600x would've made more sense cause obviously you can't use both igpu and gpu at same time And pcie 4.0 can benefit rx 6400 and 6500xt a lot which 5600G doesn't support
I mean if you pick it up cheap you can always change that setup. For someone who just needs something cheap to start gaming or doing anything it'll do.
@@darsparx it will, but it's gonna get the ETA hug of death and probably sell for at least a couple hundred more now
the iGPU could be used for virtualization if you use the dGPU for VFIO passthrough, or you could use it for dedicated transcoding/encoding for screen capture/streaming. For a content creator, doing Twitch Streaming or screen captures while simultaneously using the dedicated graphics, this kind of setup would be great. Also pretty sure some video editing software like DaVinci Resolve supports parallel encoding across multiple GPU's and the CPU.
@@needsLITHIUM yeah if 5600G had pcie 4.0 igpu would be awesome to have
@@50H3i1 agreed
I got one of these for $539 with 1tb ssd & 32gb sdram updated the graphics card on it to a amd rx6600. Runs great
I remember the days when some AMD rigs had hybrid crossfire. Basically the IGPU and the dedicated GPU did SLI and you gain a little boost for free.
oh woe, didn't know thart was a thing
Why can't they do that again?
@@pifre3051 Crossfire / sli nowadays is kinda dead anyway, barely any games support it
both DX12 and Vulkan support multiadapter across brands and architectures, but it's up to the game devs to support it.
Found your channel recently. You are doing Gods work. Thank you.
These actually come with a 3060 as the minimum spec in Australia, 16gb ram, 512GB SSD
and it's.... 1300USD...
Better Ram makes a difference in the Geekbench scores on HP prebuilts. Mine went upto 7300-ish multicore when I added a $50 DDR4-3200 CL16 kit. I started out with 8G of HP branded ram. Added another HP 8G stick from a 3200G system and that got close to your score. When I swapped it out for a PNY 16G kit I got 7300-ish.
If a game allows >60 fps, it's useful to see the performance at higher game's settings too.
I'm more interested in the RX 6600 variant. True, it's more expensive but you'd get a better GPU. Now, some people in the comments say that the 5600G bottlenecks any PCI-E 4.0 compliant GPU but I certainly have seen worse video cards coupled with this particular APU, so I don't feel it's that big of an issue.
on top of it being a better gpu, its cheaper to just buy it with the rx6600 right now instead of picking up a card from ebay and putting it in lmao
I just picked this exact system up second hand pretty cheap. Added 2 120mm fans, one at the side intake and other at the rear and I also modified the CPU cooler with another 120mm fan and a custom shroud made out of two layers of thick a$$ electrical tape lol upgraded to 16GB ram and added 1TB WD HDD. I will be getting a 5700G and swapping out that RX6400 for a 6600XT or 3060Ti, possibly swap out the PSU for the 500W if I can find one. For me, it's a great value. The entire system is going to cost about $500 after I acquire the GPU used.
Yes, I had to hack the exhaust fan to fit and slightly mod the case. Isn't jank, fan is secure and it runs much cooler.
I bought an Optiplex 5040 SFF with an i5-6400, bought a 16GB DDR3L 1600MHz kit of RAM for it and an HP RX6400 from eBay. Total cost of the PC was around $180 or so and it's around the same performance give or take a few frames due to the weaker CPU.
A liquidation store in my town has this for $350. I'm pretty tempted to get it since my computer from 2014 or so broke weeks ago.
great video as usual!!
seems like a good candidate for a pc as console/holoiso build...
Assuming motherboard's HDMI out works, you could sell the RX6400, add one 8GB DIMM, and get a cheap office PC out of it. Probably better choices out there for that, though.
529$ Walmart HP Victus 15L TG-0XX - I am running this machine with no problems. Upgrades are Corsair Gen 4 2 TB SSD/ Corsair 32GB RAM. Im a flight/driving simmer and on every program I run, Im well over 100 fps. Get an air filter, eliminating contaminants inside for unit for longer computer life.
For people who dont know how to build your own pc it's OK. I would prefer to build something based on K39 or Metalfish S3 and for apu builds Akyga AK-101-01BK really fun cheap itx case with 150w PSU under 50$
Know of the K39 and Velka 3, not the S3 tho
1:14 Literally 19.84$ /s
Also, I think that RX 6400 is a bit questionable given the fact that it's running at PCIe 3.0 speeds, but idk how much more it would've costed to get a 1650 instead.
Another edit just to say that for this PC I would personally pair it with something like an RX 6600, which comes at about 100$ less than the 3060 nowadays even though RT isn't as good.
Yeah and that CPU is overpriced, and who needs that iGPU when you have dedicated one?
5600g does not support pcie 4.0 thats why.......
By the tests I've seen, even on PCIe 3 the RX 6400 still edges out the 1650 on average. Of course, if you want any encoding support, the RX 6400 doesn't have it, while the 1650 does. Obviously, the RX 6600 would be a great upgrade.
@@arasumi3408The B550A in this PC doesn't support PCIe 4.0 anyway (lmao).
@PolecanePC I believe HP chose the 5600G because the 5600X was more expensive, the 5300G only had 4 cores, and the 5600 didn't exist at the time they chose the specs for these.
But yeah it's a hilarious confirmation
Good hands on review 👍
Can’t wait for the mini hx90g review with hx6900. Hoping everyday u upload one at first 😊
Same
I picked one up for $200. Definitely a good deal
My 16 year old wants to get this for his soon to be 6 year old brother to get him into PC gaming. My 6 year old already plays on a PS5 and Xbox Series X. I’m trying to justify purchasing this, my older son says he wants to teach him how to use a computer which is great! I’ll take any and all opinions if I should or not. Found one on Amazon for around $400-500
Don't count me in on 2K & 4K gaming. I'm happy with 1080p at 60 😀
They put a PCIe 4.0 x4 card in a PCIe 3.0 system? 😩 Lord.
I would like to see you upgrade it in the future and is there any way to put a better power supplies in it ?
I think this might honestly be my first gaming pc its cheap but made with good stuff
Modern Vintage Gamer released a video recently about a new version of the X360 emulation that upthe performance a lot, it is worth trying for those low-end systems
Why companies haven't add dual channel ram ?
I can't understand this why they do Cost Cutting in this type of builds ?
Great looking case and a good starter PC, comes with RTX options for under 800 as well. Gf grabbing this one bc of price and those front port panels
The 5600G has PCIe 3.0 so the 6400XT with 4 lanes and designed for PCIe 4.0 is held back. So an 8 lane card is a better choice.
This PC should've came with 12100 or 12100F instead since it offers PCIE 4.0 and also much cheaper, even with an H610m board will do for this PC. Overall price will be lower this way and you get that full PCIE 4.0 performance for the RX 6400.
Not only that but believe it or not the 12100 can hang in there with much higher performance CPUs in gaming. For the money and considering the low core count it's a real budget banger.
@@Berserkism For gaming, I'd have to agree. Video games take better advantage of a few really fast threads than they do a lot of moderately fast threads.
Think this would make an awesome emulation rig.
Oh no.... what this???
Lol.
Wow pretty neat!! Can you try it with another GPU please? 🙂❤
I just checked the pricing on Ebay and you can get this under $500 right now. Not bad. The fact that you can upgrade is nice.
You can upgrade the GPU/RAM/SSD.
But I doubt upgrading the CPU cooler would be easy or even possible (some OEM PCs have proprietary mounting). Probably the motherboard is proprietary, and maybe even the PSU.
Just build it yourself, you can make a PC a lot better built for the same money, not even talking about more future-proof.
@@luckyowl10 Those other upgrades are a little more important. Cooling can be added.
they have one with Intel 12th gen and give it the Pentium Cooler with the same 500 W PSU
new name but same old HP, such a delight
Really nice system. Price is decent. I saw it today in my local Micros mElectronic store in Zurich, Switzerland. It was older model with Intel, but the price was really decent (especially considering retail prices in physical shops in Switzerland). I really like the case. It is nice. It would be nice if there was another full length PCIe slot, with few PCIe lanes, to put something like a better NIC, 1Gbps is really meh these days, but for budget computer it is still something worth recommending. With 16GB RAM, and slightly better GPU, it really is very good system.
Imagine buying a $700 gaming PC and playing the PS3 version version of spiderman.
You can emulate on anything,
Your a boss i can never figure out half of the work arounds.Too bad we’re not neighbors lol
question: would the color of your computer effect its temperature? since the color black absorbs more light, would a black computer have a higher temperature than a white computer?
A good change up on the video title
Perfect start build to resale is what ima do to get used to building
My son keeps breaking my all in one monitors so I ‘d rather buy a pc/gaming system and if he breaks the screeen it’ll be ok to buy another screen for $150 vs another 1k I am on my 3rd computer so this will due for a Black Friday deal from HP combined with my employee work discount I got this for $360! I’m satisfied gaming isn’t required for me. Good review!
$699 equates to about $1500 for like hardware in Oz. 😳
With this CPU the biggest disadvantage of this GPU is not there. The RX 6400,6500 must be combined with a CPU with iGPU.
Maybe I will built a mini ITX PC with a 5600G and RX 6400. The 6400 is still the lowest DGPU and its way faster as the best iGPU.
PCIe4x4 on PCIe3 cuts your already limited bandwidth in half. You can't get the max performance out of the 6400 with a 5600g
It's one thing if it's an upgrade down the line and you start with the 5600g and igpu but the 6600 would be better since at least it uses 8 lanes
Unfortunately for the RX 6400/6500 XT, the IGP on the 5600G/5700G has an actual encode/decode suite, the only codec that Vega 7/8 doesn't support is AV1 but it supports everything else, by comparison the RX 6400 and 6500 XT only support h.264 and h.265, and that's all she
i bought it a month ago, it's a great pc
Spiderman has some problem with AMD GPUs, you can see that the card was pulling just 20W and with lower than 80% usage
Yeah on the lower end AMD I’ve noticed some problems. Hopefully this will be patched soon
@@ETAPRIME Even on high-end card i have seen people complaining about it. It never go over 90%.
What would you guys recommend in the same price range if this is so out of date?
I'm getting my desktop and I want to know if Victus is better than Pavilion
Heres the specs
Pavilion:
CPU : AMD Ryzen 5600g
GPU: RX 5500
RAM: 8 GB
SSD: 256 GB
Victus:
CPU: i3-12100F
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
RAM: 8 GB
SSD: 512 GB
I’m bout to buy this then put a PNY 3060 dual fan in this
Already on sale for $499, which is more realistic for a budget gaming pc.
i think i might get it for christmas :D
I really starting to like these prebuild systems! It's a good basis and a little bit of an adventure.
*With these prebuild systems you should always check the PSU wattage because a OEM PSU without the correct connectors or wattage can mean a dead end in terms of upgrades!* From 400 watts+ it's starting to get very interesting, because it often means you have separate GPU connectors (6 Pin) which ar often needed for a beefier GPU.
Terrible base to build on. Uses an hp proprietary layout, with hp proprietary mounting holes for a cooler, with an hp proprietary psu. This computer is only a base for a cpu and a gpu, both of which are overpriced with this oem.
@@tag206 This computer is for people who wants a working computer and not another DIY project.
With shifting perspective away to more important things it can be a relief to use such a prebuild system.
And for 400 bucks it's worth its money.
Going out for a 5600g PCIE 3, and then putting a rx 6400 which is trash without PCIE 4 in it. That's just malicious.
Really weird...I get 55 to 60fps at Spiderman with my old i7 8700 and GTX 1060 6GB, its probably the 8GB Ram
i wouldnt even buy that for 410.
you can find a nearly identical 5600g + rx 5500 for around 400$ refurbished at wallmart.
You forgot to mention over heating and the lack of air flow
I buy it today. Tomorrow it will arrive.
I would really love to see haloiso on this lil pc! Wonder how it would run?
love you dady
Thanks, sweetums. Just don't tell mommy. She wouldn't understand.
Picked mine up for 385 out the door at Walmart and it was on clearance
Proprietary Connectors again... proprietary cooler mounting... proprietary power supply... do not reccomend this to anyone please! You can't upgrade this at all!
499$ now
In regards to upgrading the GPU, would you go with a MSI Aero ITX Nvidia RTX 3060 12GB OC edition or a Zotac Gaming GeForce RTX 3060 12GB? I believe one is smaller (Aero ITX only has one fan) so I’m not sure if the other would even fit
I am not sure if this would be worth purchasing over something like the xbox series x or series s as those bot have emulating capabilities and have overall better specs than this desktop.
Idk what do you all think?
Please can you start making Hackintosh/ Ryentosh videos too
Is that even a thing after Apple went M1/M2?
I always watch your stuff I decided on this chip due to seeing you build a PC with this chip before so I got mine just bought 8gb ram to upgrade to 16 GB was thinking of selling the graphics card on eBay and seeing how cheap I could get the PC down to and save up for a better card maybe idk tho
I Dont get how anyone can call a " gaming " pc without dual channel ram... and these HP /Dell etc budget systems always use the worst of CPU coolers / memory 02:12 even if its a 5600g 60c on 30+ watts 71c on 60watts ??? jesus HP need add a 120 aio or some basic decent cooler
Im upgrading it fully
Not a bad starter rig
Savvy shopping eBay over Wal-Mart. If the USB i-o is there, this also is a decentt buy for a starter home server; e.g. plug in a few drives (ssds) for a little TrueNas/FreeNas either on bare metal or ProxMox.
That is a pretty good compact gaming pc
Hi! How about the temperature? Does it get higher since its a compact pc?
I'm new to PC gaming and I actually got a really good deal on one of these. Is it okay to run the GPU run that hot?
No
yes
@2:44
adding another 4GB? You mean 8GB?
just got the victus 15L with 6400 from walmart ON CLEARANCE for $229
Fr?
@@aaronhotchnerzoltfbi8085 yessir
What are you going to do with yours? I just got mine today and am going to add 2x16gb ram, a 2tb 2.5" SSD, and I might swap out the m2 SSD for a 2Tb. All of those parts cost me about $170, so that would put me well around $450 total all in. Not too bad. I think I would have had to spend several hundred more at least to get something with a 3060 and it would have less RAM and storage.
@@briancoleman6709 I did 2 16gb sticks of vengeance. Plan on doing a sata ssd as well and a gpu swap in the future
What would be a good 8 GB stick to pair with this? If I sell off the GPU and add my 1660 Super to it instead this makes for a pretty good upgrade over my current setup.
just built it yourself from scratch, you can make a much better PC for the same money.
@@luckyowl10 better yes. But not in an sff format tho.
I've got it it's great pc
Think it could handle games like Bloodborne, ark evolved? Feel like destiny 2 may have issues but idk
Hook me up with some old tech 🙏🏿
Hp cases are great i have an hp case for 7 year 🗿
Doom Eternal started and RAM used went to 6666 MB
What monitor did you use in this video?
I'm thinking of getting one but not sure if I will
You mentioned that you wouldn't go much higher than an RTX 3060. But I'm hoping to get a 16 GB graphics card in there. Is that even a possibility or am I just totally screwed?
The PSU is only 350W, so more than a 3060 is risky af
Do it matter what desktop you use?
Got the same one!
Are they able to do VR
yes
Does it have extra m.2 ports and sata ports to add more SSD directly?😊
What type of RAM should I upgrade to this PC with?
this one is good bang for the buck for around $400USD sheesh 💯👌🏽
I bought this for 316.99 on eBay paid 370 about 7 days ago
Single channel RAM, it looks like. What would it do with dual channel? That right there would help a bit, no?
It does have 2 DIMM slots, but prebuilt with only 8GB, use one slot only. So, definitively two sticks would help.
Im starting to notice that FSR is not worth it
I bought the model before this one, with a ryzen 5 5600g, an rx5500 and 8gb ram and 256gb ssd for like $800 on clearance after taxes and with 4 year warranty, its my understanding that the rx 5500 is slighty better than the rx 6400 idk if thats true
i think it'll trade punches with this one probably, but gpu prices were probably a bit higher when you bought yours i guess. what i don't like about HP and DELL is the godamn proprietary motherboard. the important thing at the end of the day is if it suit your needs
@@bzipoli i bought it like a month ago from Walmart(I'm from Puerto Rico everything is more expensive here that's why I paid almost $800 for it) but it's served me well and i just today installed 16gb of ram and sold my original 8gb and it's way faster now for games like i was getting around 80fps in battlefront 2 on high setting with 8gb and now I'm getting around 112-120fps so it's quite better performance
@@cesarvarela5438 higher number, better card. simple infrastructure they made with these gpus... 6400 is a better card than the 5500.
@@danielrains4952 from the information I've seen I'm not sure that's the case
@@cesarvarela5438 Yeah i know the 5500 is the better card. i was just being difficult. the 5500 is 40% faster than the 6400. All good Cesar!
Is it possible to get a cabinet and shift these internals into that..? For better cooling..?
the question I asked 7 months ago never got answered 😭
I'm eagerly awaiting your MINISFORUM NUCXI5/NUCXI7 review, have you checked your mail yet😁
Hey ETA, How did you get the wattage to show for the GPU? I have an EVGA RTX 2060. My MSI afterburner will only show voltage and power usage percentile. Everything else comes up just fine. Just not wattage. Done everything from reset to stock, to a clean install...
Thank you! Beautiful video! I have a doubt: I have the version with I7 12700F + RTX 3060TI. Is it normal for the GPU, full load, 2560 x 1080 (starfield ultra settings), to have a temperature of 82° celsius? I didn't touch anything, I just updated the official drivers with GeForce Xperience.
I have the 3060ti aswell.
U can undervolt the 3060. it helps. mine was also at 80• and after the undervolting it is at 65-68• at the same Performance.
look up for tutorials
Sorry for my bad english.
@@xMK-yq7fr thanks for you answer ☺️
In your guys honestly opinion I'd be buying to sim race would it work ok?
I just bought a brand new one for $260 - you say you could put a 3060 in here but isn't the PSU only 350w in this? My understanding is that is not enough, but I'm not very knowledgeable about this stuff.
Get the 4060. I have this system and the 4060 power draw is low.115w