Ryzen 7 8700G First Look, The Most Powerful iGPU Ever! No Graphics Card Needed
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- The all new AMD Ryzen 7 8700G is here and it has the fastest Desktop iGPU Ever! With 8 zen 4 Cores 16 threads and the RDNA3 based 780M iGPU running at 2900MHz With new APU you can run AAA PC games at 1080P with a Graphics Card!
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00:00 Introduction
00:31 Unboxing The AMD Ryzen 7 8700G
01:42 Ryzen 7 8700G Specs
02:34 DDR5 Ram For The 8700G
03:33 8700G Testing Set Uo
04:14 8700G TDP
06:57 AMD Ryzen 8700G Benchmarks
08:44 8700G Gaming
09:39 ryzen 8700G Red Dead Redemption 2
10:02 Spiderman Ryzen 7 8700G
10:25 Palworld Ryzen 7 8700G
10:50 Cyberpunk 2077 Ryzen 7 8700G
11:39 Is The AMD Ryzen 7 8700G Worth It
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It's so awesome we have new desktop APUs, I will have the 5600G video up soon. but until then what would you like to see done with the 8700G?
Did you mean 8600G?
I'd like to see it in the inwin Chopin case
Brother can you give me your old unbox mini pc please
I'd like to see TEKKEN 8 included in tests :)
do you have the 8500g? I want to know how it goes vs 5600g or 5700g
Almost 4000 points on Time Spy, that’s ARC A380, RX6400 and GTX1650 territory and even better depending on how those LP graphics cards are configured. impressive for an APU.
Comparisons like this need to be highlighted. It answers the question how does it compare to old gen GPUs which people may have had an experience with.
Excited when 780m does just as well?
waiting 2 years for only a bit faster than $400 laptop with r7 6800h!!
Strix point is in a couple of months from now and strix Halo is next year. I think those are what you're looking for if you want big APU improvements. @sownlengoc4223
@@tendosingh5682 it literally is the 780m
Can you imagine the power of MiniPCs in 2 years time? a tiny box will be so powerful to put under your TV for emulation and games
As Tiny as a smartphone box without charger by today's standard.
All in one console, multimedia in one pack.
They already have made minipcs with the 780m, but like with all this stuff it's the pricing that makes it unattractive.
If you just wanna use it for emulation, we're already there.
This is the kind of progress of technology that makes me love AMD.
Arc on Intel is same.
Meteor Lake IGPU is faster than this...
How?> Its a rebranded CPU LOL.
@@dragonsyph2557 just let scamd happy to say that, dont ruin their excitement 😂
@@ValdeSanus According to Notebookcheck comprehensive tests....Arc 8 iGPU of Meteor Lake is 13 percent faster than Radeon 780M in synthetic benchmarks, but 2 percent slower in real-life gaming. It is within margin of error....so both perform identically.
Thank you for taking the time to look at RAM speed differences and how it impacts performance! You're the only one (out of about 10 tech RUclipsrs that I follow) that has done this. It looks even more impressive with that Patriot ram compared to more standard ram that others did their reviews with. Love it!!!
Yeah, I think RAM speed is what's holding the 780m back, with 8000mt or faster RAM should make a significant difference
Well between the APU cost, am5 mobo cost, and the fastest ddr5 cost, it's a money pit for 0 reason, an am4 build with rx 6600 xt would be over twice as fast in gaming for a lot less. The apu is good, but the price is not, and if the intent is gaming it makes 0 sense for now.
@@pranze3484 Yes, that makes it impressive, but puts it into a niche.
It's interesting for an SFF/ITX system. But if you go to AM4, DDR4 and Ryzen 5000 you might already get a 6600 for a similar total amount of money that's much faster at gaming.
And if gaming is not important, almost every Ryzen 7000 has a built in graphic.
@@pranze3484if your building a PC with a APU, pretty sure it is cheaper than a discreete GPU with better performance.
Oops Ddr5 ram prices are ridiculously high, hopefully they'll come down. 😖
Amazing AMD 8000 series arrived, hope AMD supply chain will improve in india
Ikr ! Can't wait to build my first pc with this cpu.
With the SAME old 780m, it just rebranded old tech.,
Bro, Intel Nvidia nexus is fully politicized here in India with everyone getting higher margins on them versus AMD.
Way too expensive... here in sweden they cost over 400 dollars
@@dragonsyph2557 Indeed, no performance increase over the laptops what so ever
Wow, you're fast man! I was waiting for the launch to see reviews from the real world, and you are here making a video on day one, congratulations on your enthusiasm, your channel is excellent.
It's amazing how APUs really made this far
Yet i3 12100F and 6500XT performs better in gaming according to Gaming Nexus tests
On one hand yes, it's impressive for an APU. But on the other hand you either have to buy eight cores with it for quite some money. Or get fewer GPU units with the 8600G.
And as soon as there's enough space and power for a 6600 you can get more or less any CPU and have much higher gaming performance.
Considering the cost vs performance, it is amazing it doesnt say Nvidia.
@@killermoon635 Please no F CPU with a RX 6500XT. For this card you must take a CPU with GPU part. A small GPU is still fine.
@@killermoon635 yes, but that is a low end gpu. realistically, someone will by this on a budget, then wait a few months to get the rx 8000 series, or the nvidia 50 series, and use this for 1440p gaming, which is more gpu centric over 1080p gaming. otherwise, they may use this for small builds.
So impressive for how much a single CPU and iGPU are capable of now! Also I'm glad I'm not the only one running cyberpunk on medium settings and getting some level of visual frame skip despite the FPS counter always staying above 50 FPS.
omg finally someone who took the time to test this chip properly with different ram speeds and looking tdp as well, thank you sir! I would have loved to see how low it can go in idle watts thouigh, with power saving enabled and such. many do mini pc's for the lower power consumption.
would also have been nice to see you play som low demaning titles at 1440p, such as league of legends and cs2.
Few hours ago visited your channel looking for your video on this chip, Finally you posted it
ive been waiting so long for this video 👍👍
great little mini-PC are coming.
AMD just needs to add more CU's. Now rumor has it that RDNA 3.5 may have up to 18 CU's which would be a nice jump in performance.
Love your videos. I'd love to see you boost that new APU to its highest reliable settings and run emulation!
Im looking at building my son a computer in the near future and emulation will be a big part of it.
It'd be awesome if you got a hold of the rest of the 8000G line aswell. It's too bad they didn't put the full GPU into the rest of them.
Thanks for sharing the different performance levels with different memory kits.
If you could check for IDLE power consumption at both software (CPUID/HWDInfo) and outlet level, it would be great.
Asking because it has been shared that this is a monolithic design (like the laptop ones) and whenever those reach desktop they tend to be great for home servers which tend to stay idling most of their uptime.
I have been waiting for this video from you since these were announced.
Yes I’m here early thanks ETA! 💪 waiting so bad for this APU to get on your hands… thank you!!!
I have one of the tiny PCs powered by a 7940HS, basically the laptop version of this chip, that has become my "daily driver". The 1080p performance of it just blows me away.
Dude, I love the testing. Love to see a tight build but it always feels so wierd seeing these APUs in a huge case. We need a tiny build for this chip! Just razzing you. Looking forward to seeing how this chip runs steam OS if you get the time to doing a video on it.
Just ordered mine. Looking forward to using my new sub 4L build.
Impressive bit of kit !!
Im so excited to see you review this !!! my dream system ......imagine mega retro gaming at max settings..
Man, that's insane! Never can I imagine that an integrated GPU packs a lot of performance. AMD sure is pushing SFF to the extreme.
Yes I would like to see a SFF build with this and emulation performance. I'm thinking of building a small console like emulation/Steam box to put alongside consoles.
Specifically would like to see Mednafen Sega Saturn emulation with highest accuracy. Usually need around 3Ghz single core for that so curious to see how this performs. Of course see how GC and PS2 work as well. Thanks for the great vids!
these apus are like the washer dryer 2 in 1 combo unit things
I am excited to see what this thing can do for emulation. This could potentially be the best of the best for extreme small form factor emulation consoles. Hopefully being small enough to be portable like a gamecube (or in a gamecube with a small enough motherboard). With it being socket-able, all you need to do is upgrade the cpu way down the line if you buy high enough speed ram. There aren't a lot of reviewers that understand the significance of a great APU, so knowing that you are doing a deep dive set of videos is great to see.
amazing igpu performance
Actually pretty impressive how much power they pack for an iGPU. I think there’s a lot of potential for the 8000G series, not just in low end gaming, but mainly for SFF PCs and office PCs.
There's some weird bug going on with it Steve from gamer nexus talk about dropping clock's when gaming because of some kind of coding that put in for hand hold device that wasn't meant to be in the desktop devices guessing they have to put out patch for it by AMD to disable it i guess they forgot it was in it
this igou is very bandwidth limited, the faster vram it gets, the faster it runs
I'm really interested in video editing with this chip. I know you're more on the gaming side, but I am interested in an SFF build. Thanks again for your great videos!
AMD is killing it with their APUs. Decent enough for just about any game now. And I'm really curious about the performance of the new NPU they're slapping on them.
Blown away by this thing.. tempted
It's honestly amazing! I got a Mini PC with the Radeon 780m and I'm actually really happy with it! We're getting close to a point where maybe even AMD's next APU's with RNDA3.5 might actually be the sweet 1080p whilst feeling like you don't need to make too much compromise.
And when that happens I will jump onto it!
Today the APU graphics performance is locked by the RAM. DDR5 is too slow. Thats why even Intels ARC graphics is not faster and the 8600G with 33% less CU cores is only 15% slower. We need something like 4x DDR6 with 10800MT/s. But this is expensive and only possible with integrated RAM.
We can still today use HBM (thats about 4x faster as DDR7 and 40x faster as DDR5) but this is expensive as hell.
@@Crustenscharbap The problem isn't RAM speed but access latency. Any speed deficiency can simply be overcome by a higher bus width. Even with slow RAM speeds, the only real downside will be delayed frame rendering (ie higher input and render latency for each frame). For access latency the only option you have is more cache, but cache is very expensive. Doubling the cache basically doubles the cost of the CPU.
Ah interesting. I want to see a benchmark between faster and slower latency memory. But the best solution is integrated memory. It has higher bandwidth and much lower latencies. @@mikehawk6918
Disappointed that asrock hasn't released an AM5 version of the deskmini/meet before these processors released.
Nice! Could you compare this to the Minisforum UM790 Pro?
I recently updated the BIOS which now allow me to dedicate 8gb of the 32gb ram to VRAM. The latest 24.1.1 driver also improved performance. It used to default to 2gb and that really hurt performance especially the 1% low.
My man, I'd love to see the difference between all possible ddr5 speeds. Or at least the slowest and fastest, like 5200 vs 8000 Mhz. Would be tremendously interesting to see what difference it makes on these iGPUs. Thank you so much for making this video.
One hour early posting today . . . nice 👍
*Unpopular opinion: 8700G apu is great* ❤
Kindest regards, friends and neighbours.
8:40 very important to set the Video memory to at least 5GB, the dynamic allocation reduces the fps a lot, especially in SOTR. Thats why we see such poor Performance here, my ROG Ally gets 62FPS at 1080p low 35W TDP with 5GB VRAM.
I am so excited to test the 8700G, i was able to get the IMC of the 5700G up to 2466 (up from the default of 1600, going from DDR4 3200, up to 4933C17-17-17-28) Imagine if, on the 8700G, we could get MCLK/FCLK/UCLK of 3100 (same percentage increase as the 5700G) and run DDR5 6200 in gear1, or DDR5 12,400 in gear 2
FYI someone overclocked to 10600 already, i have not found a good RAM OC board yet, IIRC they were using a 4 slot X670E motherboard to get to 10600, if i can find a 2 slot B650 ITX OC board i might be able to hit 12400, or like a specialty EVGA ATX board that puts the RAM just as close as if it were an ITX board.
Can’t wait for the bios update to fix power throttling ☺️
Great video. I'd like to see dying light 2 and a comparison to the Rx 560.
Haven't finished the video yet. I'm really hoping you directly compare to the 7940hs, since it looks like the same thing on paper.
I built a system out of the 5700g last year so I am in no hurry to upgrade honestly. I can wait for AM5 parts to come down in price.
i did too, and i like the uSFF, but im thinking of re-casing it and adding an RX5700XT to it, mo better for less money TBH. just a sacrifice of some shelf space.
Upgrading that now to a AM5 mainboard + DDR5 + 8700g I would call 'Intelectually challenged' But adding to that 5700G a nice discrete GPU for that 500+dollar or euro could be nice though
@@erikkarsies4851 Would be nice but the wifes laptop is turning into e-waste soon so I am slowly accumulating parts to build her a small system for christmas next year. Got a board and a 3200G for her but need a psu case monitor still. We poor folks so yeah $500 graphics cards not in my budget. Especially not since I have to purchase in Canadian rubles..... That $500 is $750+ here.
....can we see how this performs with the included stock cooler?
I would like to see in the upcoming emulation video, the faster rams tested to. PS3 and up require more gpu power so the extra ram mhz will matter.
Thank You
Could you please test the 4k video editing capability of this chip (like timeline scrolling when add some effects) in Davinci Resolve or Premier Pro? Many thanks in advance.🙏
can you "steam deck" this setup? that best scenario i can think of when using this for gaming
Thank you for this great review. Please make a xtra large video for emulation. C64, Amiga, nes snes to switch and ps3. 🤩👍
Day i refresh my living room with new TV i will build sff pc with Steam os using some hi end AMD G series cpu these are so awesome for casual/older titles gaming .
Great video!! How about doing a deeper dive and overclocking the igpu itself. It defaults to 2900mhz let's see if you can get it to 3200mhz for free performance and FPS gains.
@ETAPRIME : you missed the MHZ numbers in the slide at 1:49 just an FYI.
Thanks for the heads up.
You should also start doing shorts on the 8700g, just to test all the big AAA games such as Halo,fortnite, and Call of Duty on competitive settings. Just to prepare everyone if they're thinking on water cooling it for a little over clocking the APU itself
its only a 65w part. You do not need to water cool it no matter how much you think you are pushing it. A $40 air cooler will do just fine.
The Wraith Spire does the job fine. Keep in mind that this chip runs in the ROG Ally, Lenovo Legion Go and puts out great performance at 30W.
Would love to see it playback AV1 at 4K and maybe an MKV file with Dolby Vision or some other HDR Format. And would also love to see it running a Linux distro!
Damn. I’m really tempted to buy an Inwin Chopin for this bad boy
that is cool wallpaper, would you shared a link to where it came from?
Waiting for an emulation test on this one nd review on 8600g in later video's
Im more interested in the 8500g as a replacement for my 2400g. Been wanting a mini pc upgrade for years.
I wish Dual graphics still existed.
Would make a great pairing with the Radeon Rx 6400.
Hello, beginner builder here. When it comes to the ram here, is it more important to have more GB of memory, the frequency of the RAM or more MT/s?
FINALLY cores designed for gaming!
Hi ETA, will you do the video using 8,200mt memory? That could be awesome!!
What is a good guess on Timespy score for the 8600G?
Also great on miniPC with NPU is a plus. But for gaming pricepoint perspective its just buying 12100F+RX6600 for the same price.
Would be good to see some vr tests with this. How it can handle 8k vr video, low power games like beat saber, and high power games like half life alyx.
I dont think a 1060 is really suitable for it so don't expect too much from the 8700G
@@erikkarsies4851 ive used vr on lower benchmarked old gpus and they did fine.
At this point, this is supposed to be the most power apu that exists, something je should at least test it otherwise aleberyone will just keep assiming it camt do it.
But when vr is already running on mobile phones, and has all sorts of reprojection software that keeps the framerate up in vr, that arent used on regular games, or even if it means lowering the resolution scaling on vr to 1.0. if desktop vr can run on these then people should know about it.
and now we wait for the handhelds
What software did you use to change the TDP? I have a laptop with a 8845HS and cant seem to find a way to edit the tdp(atleast at the moment)
One question, newegg no longer does free gobal shipping when spend a particular amount?
How's the performance with 8200 memory? Also how it behaves with AFMF ?
HOW GOOD IS IT WITH PS1, PS2 AND SEGA SATURN, DREAMCAST. THANKS
Amazing performance! Cant wait to see how it perform on an emulator.😊
How much perf comparison with Nvidia Pascal GTX 1050 ti/Radeon Polaris RX 570?
Kinda waiting for 2026/2028 mobile phone with Nvidia Pascal equivalent.
Max Payne: 2001 release, 2012 mobile. GTA San Andreas: 2004, 2014 mobile.
How was the CPU side affected by going past ddr5-6000 and no longer running at a 1-1 ratio with the memory
I really want to see some AI LLM workloads run with that new NPU...
Now do a mini ITX build with it please, and slap a nice Linux distro on top of it ❤
Need to compare to a high watt 780m box!
Next review OC version, pls
Please fix your AIO its upside down. Tubes should be up to allow air bubbles to leave the pump and stay on top of the radiator, improves temps, noise and pump life.
Would the normal inwin chopin 150w psu suffice for the 8700g and the fastest ram possible with a bit of overclocking? Asking since the inwin chopin max isn't available in my country
hi how did u overclock the igpu? i was wondering what app u used thanks
now I want a mini pc for my living room featuring this CPU xD
You will do videos with the 8600g too?
Hi! I am seeing that the integrated graphics have 512MB assigned VRAM, is it possible to assign more?
It'll just assign more as it needs it, that's just what it probably uses on the desktop
Can you show the video of using FSR 3 on this CPU?
ETA , I would like to see you overclock everything on this. The cpu part ,the gpu part, and ddr-5 ram as well, all of it ,to see how far all of it will go.. And what performance you gain over the base stock of cpu-gpu-ram.. Allocate as much Ram as possible to the gpu as you possibly can as well! Max out any power limit, and use an air cooler and retest again with a high performance AIO, as well..
If you can, include more benchmark test with just the iGPU alone on all emulators on PC. (Duckstation / Flycast / PCSX2 / RPCS3 / Xemu / Xenia Canary / PPSSPP etc etc)
This is amazing. Imagine running this with 7600mhz ddr5.
Can you make a video with a discrete gpu as you mention like rtx 3070
how about letting us in on those fantastic wallpapers you use ?
you said dual channel is a must, but dont all ddr5 ram always dual channel by default even with one stick of ram?
" A base clock of 4.2 ghz with a boost of up to 4.1".
Great quality control on the info there ETA.
Thats it. We reached stable gaming in 1080p.
Lets wait for Radeon 880M for better CUs. For Med/High settings
Nice APU. Thanks for the review.
PS: That GeekBench sincle core score seems too low compared to 7480HS. Multicore is better, but it should be around 2700 for single core.
Probably something ran in the background which affected the single core score.
12:08 apparently with this CPU, dGPU will only have x8 PCIe4.0 lanes available. Would this be an issue (especially for high end dGPUs)?
I would love to know if this chip could run Warhammer 3 with ultra unit scale
This got great performance alright 😁
Is the AIO radiator the wrong way around? I thought the hoses should be heading up above the pump block so that air bubbles don’t get trapped in the pump
No, it is the correct way. If the pipe connecting to the rediation is in the upper side, there is more chance of air getting trapped in the CPU cooler.
Is this CPU enough for a streaming PC? I'm going to use a capture card with it. How well it will handle the recording and encoding the videos? For 1080p 60 fps.
Even the 5700G was enough for streaming. I've used in the past 3400G.
This is more ideal for streaming because the 780m iGPU (700 series in general) can do AV1 decoding and encoding which is considerably better than NVIDIA's proprietary NVENC coding.
Thanks for the review. It's very powerful APU but a budget dedicated Graphics Card will offer better performance like GTX 1660 Super or RX580. If you don't want to spend a lot of money. Prime, What do you use gaming overlay software? its better than MSI After Burner
We already know how good the 780M is. So this is kinda like what happens if we give abit more wattage. I can see the 8700G being a powerful media center if you're using a very small case that doesn't have room for a GPU.
Good, now let's hope intel add something too so there is more pressure on Nvidia which should force more competitive prices