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Next season when this is tuned to the perfection, there will be results that people don't believe! The skill that Teemu has when the car works and when he gets the confidence and trusts the car, the results will be insane! Can't wait!
Looks and sounds awesome. I have soi limiter on my m47 118d. It definetly has a cool show factor. I broke the vnt vanes on the turbo from too much heat and detonation hahah
Have you thought about using pilot injection to make the initial cylinder temp increase and then the main injection later in the cycle like how a dpf is being regenerated? This would add plenty of exhaust manifold pressure to keep the turbo lit
@@turbodieselbuilds it can be possible to insert code into the ECU which allows you to formulate a driver controlled fuel cut rpm, similar to how a rolling anti-lag system would work. I assume the air conditioning is not longer in use so the inputs for this system can be converted into being used for this purpose
Will injection this late spray/inject outside of the piston bowl or potentially injecting into the edge of the piston bowl and melting it (metal spraying the cylinder with piston material)?
You came up with lowering the injection pressure to extend injection, which is brilliant. Could it work to make the timing and rail pressure a function of the requested boost at a given rpm, throttle position and measured boost? Then, when requested boost is higher than measured boost, the ecu can increase duration and lower the pressure as a function of the difference between measured and requested boost. That maximizes heat output when the turbo spools up.
Hmm. When we are on throttle, we want have always best possible power output to tyres. We can not do anything what effect less power and wait to have more. So is best way to adjust what happen when we are off throttle. Is playground area😁 Think on throttle area is optimized quite well.
Hello everyone, having troubles understanding fully how the diesel engine works with anti-lag. It seems as though theybare just injecting fuel late into the combustion cycle so that the charge carries into the exhaust housing? Im asking because i would like to try and create diesel antilag with a mechanical injection pump and want to fully understand the theory.
Yes basically just like that. When turbo pressure goes below a threshold it injects some diesel really late. It sounds impossible to get it working with a mechanical pump 😅 but happy to be proven wrong 😊
With mechanical diesel I'm going to try injecting air and fuel onto a glowplug for initial liteing of fuel useing fresh air anti-lag to get air in when pulling of throttle and having throttle body infront of turbo for keeping air restricted ( to an extent ) to the blow off valve area and for spooling turbo faster when letting off throttle to help vaccum the air into the exhaust with a venturi tube should work soon to see great video great work
I searched "Antilag" but found "Vikings and Antilag" 😂 That accent is amazing^^ Edit: So it's done via timing to expand the combustion into the exhaust system? Because diesel won't self combust only by heat later as petrol in the usual anti lag.
I think it is like this: Injection start at normal time to make the engine ignite the fuel, but then hold the injector on with very low amount of fuel to keep a small flame on inside the engine, like a lighter. As long as the flame is on inside the engine it will make heat for the turbo, but the engine will not make much power because it is at the wrong time, so it is possible to make boost when the engine is not making power. I do not know how long they can hold the flame with the ECU software limits, but it could be possible to still burn fuel when exhaust valve is open. The pops and bangs could be because some cylinders are not able to hold a flame on, so the diesel is going unburned to the turbo, but the fire from the other cylinders ignite it.
Great job guys. I am writing custom os patches for my denso sh7055 diesel. Unfortunately I am not a calibrationist though. I have already created soi retard limiters based on brake pedal and cruise control switches. However I have a lot of ideas on the best way to achieve anti lag/pre spool. I can ad any table that someone would want. I would love to ask some questions to someone who actually knows how to tune diesels professionally. Additionally, I would love to answer any questions about custom patches so that you can activate anti lag with switches, and or as tables etc. Ps I drift an 82 mustang. Grass roots. Very fun sport.
so let me see if i got it right... in a normal gasoline car they do anti lag by delaying the spark, so the gasoline burns while the piston comes up and sends half the explosion to the exhaust... thats... ok... now in a diesel you cant do that because the diesel needs a high compression and temperature for the diesel to burn instantly as soon it leaves the injector (in a gasoline car if this happens is like knock, the gasoline should only burn after the spark), now they just changed the injection to do it delayed as the gasoline anti lag right? that means that this engine has enough compression to burn diesel even with the piston on bottom end? woot? Either way i never understood why drifting never used a proper robust biturbo system (sequential one), iam no expert but they were made to delete the turbo lag at lower rpm so... properly made and you have a boosted car that reacts as a naturally aspirated (and im talking in general not only diesel) Or have a button to raise the idle to like 4000 rpm... like iam pretty sure thats easy to do in any standalone ecu and deletes any type of turbo lag... so simple yet never saw anyone doing it... OUT OF THE BOX IDEA: A electric high boost turbo (like thats hard to do but maybe garrett or a big company can do it, that not only would get rid of the lag but also from the power loss from the hot side of the turbo... plust no need of the hot side of turbo or extra manifold fabrication, just the cold side and a proper strong electric motor, plus you can install it next to the intercooler so it gets even less air travel and less time to compress)
Lasse or Robert have to answer the anti-lag question but on our video about a week ago we explain our compound turbo setup and what updates we made to it for this season.
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Next season when this is tuned to the perfection, there will be results that people don't believe! The skill that Teemu has when the car works and when he gets the confidence and trusts the car, the results will be insane! Can't wait!
You should sell this system to Vatican, when the next Pope will be elected they need quicker response to the election process :)
😂😂
Pope is for 🐑 ... Follow propaganda kid
If it blows both white and black, they get confused
WWG1WGA
I love this video. I am very interested in learning diesel tuning and this is like finding gold for me.
These guys are the masters when it comes to diesel tuning!
That’s absolutely awesome, kudos to the team and Lasse especially! 🚀 Super cool that you guys explain it in detail how it’s actually working 💪🏻
Looks and sounds awesome. I have soi limiter on my m47 118d. It definetly has a cool show factor. I broke the vnt vanes on the turbo from too much heat and detonation hahah
Have you thought about using pilot injection to make the initial cylinder temp increase and then the main injection later in the cycle like how a dpf is being regenerated? This would add plenty of exhaust manifold pressure to keep the turbo lit
Have not thinked, but used now minute to this idea. Might be possible to play little bit with🧐
@@turbodieselbuilds it can be possible to insert code into the ECU which allows you to formulate a driver controlled fuel cut rpm, similar to how a rolling anti-lag system would work. I assume the air conditioning is not longer in use so the inputs for this system can be converted into being used for this purpose
That would remove biggest bang, and get more like how it is on wrc cars.
What would EGT's look like with this fueling profile?
It's starting to sound you would need to create and program your own ECU. Really nice hack with an ECU that's not designed for anti-lag!
Keep up the good works guys . It looks awesome
I need to try this on my Smart 3 cyl CDI !
You must do it🤩
Will injection this late spray/inject outside of the piston bowl or potentially injecting into the edge of the piston bowl and melting it (metal spraying the cylinder with piston material)?
Injection is so late, so dont hit to piston. Make more heat on cylinder, yes.
miljoonan markan idea. joku rupeaa tekemään aftermarket diesel ecuja👍
blacksmokeracing.com 😁
Really nice !! is this a worlds first Diesel Anti Lag ??
No I don't think so. There were at least some comments on TikTok about someone else who has made it.
Maybe 10 years ago in Holland, a pulling truck.
@@V8Lennyyeah, some tractor and truck pulling guys have done it
No. Me, at least one German guy, SiuroTDI and some others have done it also.
Its only like first diesel antilag in drifting scene. And different type than others.
Interesting and greatly explained
seriously awesome stuff guys! Thanks for sharing!
Mad to hear the engine revving and sounding like the 5 cylinder engine from Audi Quattro rally car
You came up with lowering the injection pressure to extend injection, which is brilliant.
Could it work to make the timing and rail pressure a function of the requested boost at a given rpm, throttle position and measured boost?
Then, when requested boost is higher than measured boost, the ecu can increase duration and lower the pressure as a function of the difference between measured and requested boost. That maximizes heat output when the turbo spools up.
This would need custom Code in the ecu, which needs to be written in asm and inserted into Stock Code, really time consuming and difficult imo
Hmm. When we are on throttle, we want have always best possible power output to tyres. We can not do anything what effect less power and wait to have more. So is best way to adjust what happen when we are off throttle. Is playground area😁 Think on throttle area is optimized quite well.
@@turbodieselbuilds yes I think this would need to be custom Code on decel only, I like the simpler approach with calibration maps more
Could you maybe add a "7th injector" to the unused egr system and inject diesel directly into the manifold.
It works pretty well with only basic injectors, so dont want add anything.
I would think it wouldnt ignite in the manifold, but am Not sure
Kadetista ainakin pauke tuntu mahan pohjassa asti. Kuin Rintasen autosta konsanaan 🤩
Vittu että se tuntuu rinnassa hyvältä ku oikein kunnolla ajetaan paukku päällä
How about volvos compressed gas trick?
That wont make 2,5bar boost of throttle 😅
Solid work!
this will be insane next season
Täytyy sanoa että odotan innolla miten alkaa pelaamaan ja olisin kiinnostunut kokeilemaan bemariin jos jätkillä on aikaa 👍
What causes the white smoke, assuming burning oil?
Un burnt diesel
Do you have a link to the Excel tables you showed in the video about how the antilag is setup?
😂 it's his own work
So friggin cool guys!
Finally subtitles 😂
Hello everyone, having troubles understanding fully how the diesel engine works with anti-lag. It seems as though theybare just injecting fuel late into the combustion cycle so that the charge carries into the exhaust housing?
Im asking because i would like to try and create diesel antilag with a mechanical injection pump and want to fully understand the theory.
Yes basically just like that. When turbo pressure goes below a threshold it injects some diesel really late. It sounds impossible to get it working with a mechanical pump 😅 but happy to be proven wrong 😊
Lasse or Robert can maybe specifiy how the injection exactly is done.
With mechanical diesel I'm going to try injecting air and fuel onto a glowplug for initial liteing of fuel useing fresh air anti-lag to get air in when pulling of throttle and having throttle body infront of turbo for keeping air restricted ( to an extent ) to the blow off valve area and for spooling turbo faster when letting off throttle to help vaccum the air into the exhaust with a venturi tube should work soon to see great video great work
0:18 what car is this?
@kadettcdi on instagram, Lasse's and he's brothers hobby drifter/ice racer
holy akcent !
Jos laittais subaru tyylisen polttikammion putkeen ja pitäis ahot aina ylhäällä?
I searched "Antilag" but found "Vikings and Antilag" 😂 That accent is amazing^^
Edit: So it's done via timing to expand the combustion into the exhaust system? Because diesel won't self combust only by heat later as petrol in the usual anti lag.
Very cool good video
hienoa työtä :)
Gotta admit i didn't really understand how is fuel ignited outside the standard combustion stroke?
Injection start will be early enough to get diesel burn, but long duration to get injection late.
I think it is like this:
Injection start at normal time to make the engine ignite the fuel, but then hold the injector on with very low amount of fuel to keep a small flame on inside the engine, like a lighter.
As long as the flame is on inside the engine it will make heat for the turbo, but the engine will not make much power because it is at the wrong time, so it is possible to make boost when the engine is not making power.
I do not know how long they can hold the flame with the ECU software limits, but it could be possible to still burn fuel when exhaust valve is open.
The pops and bangs could be because some cylinders are not able to hold a flame on, so the diesel is going unburned to the turbo, but the fire from the other cylinders ignite it.
should work for drag racing too
It should, we’ll possibly be showing that on the daily driver 😁
Great job guys. I am writing custom os patches for my denso sh7055 diesel. Unfortunately I am not a calibrationist though. I have already created soi retard limiters based on brake pedal and cruise control switches. However I have a lot of ideas on the best way to achieve anti lag/pre spool. I can ad any table that someone would want. I would love to ask some questions to someone who actually knows how to tune diesels professionally. Additionally, I would love to answer any questions about custom patches so that you can activate anti lag with switches, and or as tables etc.
Ps I drift an 82 mustang. Grass roots. Very fun sport.
so let me see if i got it right... in a normal gasoline car they do anti lag by delaying the spark, so the gasoline burns while the piston comes up and sends half the explosion to the exhaust... thats... ok... now in a diesel you cant do that because the diesel needs a high compression and temperature for the diesel to burn instantly as soon it leaves the injector (in a gasoline car if this happens is like knock, the gasoline should only burn after the spark), now they just changed the injection to do it delayed as the gasoline anti lag right? that means that this engine has enough compression to burn diesel even with the piston on bottom end? woot?
Either way i never understood why drifting never used a proper robust biturbo system (sequential one), iam no expert but they were made to delete the turbo lag at lower rpm so... properly made and you have a boosted car that reacts as a naturally aspirated (and im talking in general not only diesel)
Or have a button to raise the idle to like 4000 rpm... like iam pretty sure thats easy to do in any standalone ecu and deletes any type of turbo lag... so simple yet never saw anyone doing it...
OUT OF THE BOX IDEA:
A electric high boost turbo (like thats hard to do but maybe garrett or a big company can do it, that not only would get rid of the lag but also from the power loss from the hot side of the turbo... plust no need of the hot side of turbo or extra manifold fabrication, just the cold side and a proper strong electric motor, plus you can install it next to the intercooler so it gets even less air travel and less time to compress)
Lasse or Robert have to answer the anti-lag question but on our video about a week ago we explain our compound turbo setup and what updates we made to it for this season.
Genius
I am really sad that I was too late in Ferropolis and couldn't see the car drive
Thats too bad, where are you from? Next year there will be more chances :)
@@turbodieselbuilds oh yes :( but was a nice weekend, I'm from Cuxhaven Germany.
I was the guy with the Red w211 :D
Awesome
nice 🤩😎🤟
I wonder if anyones ever put a rocket atl system on a diesal
Oisko pakokaasujarrusta hyötyä? Mitä käyttäävät esim kuorma-autoissa? 🤔 ei taida säännötkään kieltää sitö, kun ei muut aja lamppuöljyllä. 😂
Tuota pitää jollai kyllä tutkia
vittu lasse on kyllä velho!!
❤❤
It’s also called nitrous. I don’t know if these guys use it. But they should.
No, its not. Have had nitrous, but dont use it anymore.
@@turbodieselbuilds trying something new is very cool and im all for it. But nitrous works well On diesels.
I didnt understand a shit about the "how the antilag works" part xd
tohtori
What accent is this?
Finnish 😊 also called finglish.
Rally English
Ei voi muuta ko hattua nostaa
Eipä viitti tuota rallienglantia kuunnella
Vihtiipäs
Viittit kyllä tulla valittamaan asiasta tänne, mikä nyt on vaan pelkästään sinun ongelmasi.
No voi itku sentään. Takas yle uutiset selkosuomeksi pariin😢🤗
Onneks kukaan ei sua pakota kattomaan tätä kontenttia vai mitä leka
Leka laittaa omat ääninäytteet omasta täydellisestä englannistaan omalle kanavalleen.
Guys you are making history with this. Thats insane👌🏼🤌🏻