Dirk Nowitzki: soft, choker… Hall of Famer
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Dirk Nowitzki will go down as one of the greatest players in the history of the NBA - not just the best international hoopers but the greatest period. His long list of accomplishments ranging from NBA champion and MVP to ending in a Hall of Fame career more than backs up that claim. Besides being the most celebrated Dallas Maverick in franchise history, the seven-foot sweet jump-shooting gentle giant from Germany has a strong case for one of the most unguardable shots ever with a killer fadeaway that often broke the spirit of opposing teams. That’s the Dirk we’ve come to know and love. But that wasn’t always how we saw him.
Before entering the NBA, Dirk was a mysterious foreign player who didn’t look cut out for the league when he arrived. A guy who’s too soft to amount to anything. A weak leader. A dude who folded like a wet napkin in crucial spots. Let’s meet those versions of Dirk Nowitzki in the Prism.
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“dude you aren’t going to the army. you’re 7 feet tall. what are you gonna hide behind?” -Charles Barkley
Dirk was never soft. He was finesse. There's a difference. It's disrespectful to call any athlete soft. You don't get to this level to be Dirk level good especially if you're soft
Naw he was soft he just grew his game to fit.
I think soft in the context of basketball and soft physically in general are two different things
And you absolutely cannot say Dirk was soft, but you can say he was soft in basketball terms
Opposing scouts said he was soft. Opposing coaches did. Opposing GMs did. Opposing players did. Scores -- or rather, hundreds -- of people who know more about the game than any of us ever will called him soft.
That means the man was soft. Until he wasn't.
He absolutely was soft. He flopped too like a lot of Euro players coming over did. Ironic American born players do it all the time now and take it even further than even flop god Vlade Divac did.
Harden isn’t a choker, he’s just a finesse player who doesn’t get benefits of a whistle in the playoffs that he gets in the regular season.
See how that works? Two things can be true at the same time
forget about MJ, Lebron, Curry, Kobe, Bird or even Magic - Dirk's championship run is one, if not, the best playoff run of all time.
It's right up there with the 1995 Rockets.
Rockets were juggernauts since Jordan left. Be serious@@budwyzer77
@@budwyzer77Only his best teammate wasn’t as good as Clyde Drexler; correct me if I’m wrong.
@@fortynights1513 But he also had Jason Kidd, Shawn Marion, JJ Barea, Jason Terry, Tyson Chandler... depth is usually better than raw star power.
@@JBoss44Juggernauts? Otis Thorpe as Hakeem's #2 in 94 and an aging over the hill Clyde Drexler in 95 makes the Rockets juggernauts? I don't think so.
I love how it was the 2006 finals that he got blamed for when in his minutes they outscored the heat.
And zero mention of all the FTs Wade got in games 5 and 6, 46 in total. It's still one of the great controversies in NBA Finals history.
That's usually how it goes for championship Ls
@@mrmacrossI still think the commissioner fixed that series
Love ya Dirk! Thanks for my fade away!🖤💛🏀🤟✌️
When he was making that layup over the entire big 3 in game 2, I knew it was over. I also knew LeBron's final form was first imagined that day, too.
Im a suns fan, but I got a Dirk jersey from the mid 2000s. He always tormented Phoenix and the two teams had some incredible battles. He was an amazing player and I am glad he got his ‘chip
Dirk is a legend and one of the best players ever
Im from dallas and watch his hole career. Hes my favorite player all time.
Dirk came into the nba and spent his entire career playing against some of the GREATEST power forwards in NBA HISTORY all at the same time. Chris Webber, Rasheed Wallace, Amare Stoudamire, Robert Horry, Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan, Andrei Kirelinko, Kenyon Martin, Elton Brand, i think he played during blake griffen in LA too
Dirk Nowitszki is my favorite basketball player name
Dirk wanted to play in ‘03 and Cuban wanted him too. Nelson wanted to save Dirk from himself.
Wasn't dirk's idea to sit the remainder of the spurs series in 03... from what i remember, he wanted to play and the organization opted to sit him to protect the future.
I even remember them saying he wasn't going to play even if the series went 7....which it would have if not for steve kerr and an epic 4th quarter meltdown by the mavs
i don’t think they copied clayton, but yall gotta make sure to release episodes at times that don’t conflict with another channel when yall are talking about the exact same subject
Nice.
Yeah before 2011, Dirk was kind of like how Embiid is when it comes to playoff performances. Not as annoying, he was a relatively clean player, but just as horrid. That 2011 run really erased all of that and now everyone thinks of him as a great and strong leader of his team haha
I think a lot of the questions surrounding Dirk were related to xenophobia against international talent that sadly, still rears its ugly head today.
Clayton beat you to it
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Fav moment: Dirk retreating to the locker room in tears after the Mavs won the whole thing in 2011.
my fav was drunken dirk singing we are the champions (terribly off key) at the parade
Yes. I flashed back to that when Curry dissolved in tears after winning in 2022 and Tatum choked up this year. These guys put a ton of pressure on themselves and work their asses off for years to get tot those moments.
Said it once before but I think it bears repeating.
He sparred with Yao and beat Tim Duncan in his prime.
He beat Kobe, the Thunder’s Big Three, and the Heatles.
The man was a headhunter.
And added to what what he went through in the video makes his championship all the sweeter.
It’s not fair, poor 26 year-old Lebron had no help against a boomer Mavs superteam led by 40 year olds, 4 foot tall JJ Barea, and another short dude who liked to act like a plane.. Technically the 2011 finals results doesn’t count and Lebron won!
And the last version of a really good Brandon Roy who shouldn't be dismissed
@@easyveazeyng B Roy and prime Lamarcus Aldridge mind you
He basically was batman when in arkham asylum when all the villains got out
@@ChiTownOriginator LMA was still growing into a great player and had just made his first all NBA team, BRoy was already a 3x All Star and 2x All NBA. We were really robbed of someone that could've been one of the best of the decade
Its ironic that dirk has went to the finals and lost and redeemed himself and in his last season he passes the torch to someone that played in the euro league and has now lost in the finals and is wanting to redeem himself ....time will tell if the story rewrites itself ❤️ all mavericks fans hope so
It's also ironic that the media proclaimed "coach killer" Jason Kidd is coaching this torchbearer who got his last coach fired lmao
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What exactly are you getting at here
Like serious actual question what are you even pointing out?
@@redbull63 Just yappin lmao but it's fun to think about if there was a script mavericks definitely have the most underrated one
luka ain't him keep dreaming my dude
@@jinntakkLuka is 25 n is getting ready to hit his prime I’ll let that sit with u
He had a run for the ages in 2011. It was painful as a Laker fan to be on the end of it.
But Dirk overcame Roy, Kobe, Harden, Durant, Westbrook, Bosh, Wade, and Lebron. He slayed 4 mvps. Truly the greatest European NBA player.
I’d also guess thats at least six future HOF players
It's basketball hall of fame which is one the easiest to get in. Hell, I never played organized basketball and I might be in the HOF😂@@aceassn716
Brandon Roy was special, man.
And Gasol
Swept, defending champion Kobe btw
Nowitzki is the ultimate Prism episode. Crazy to have witnessed the whole rollercoaster. One of the greats.
At any point, during script edits, did anyone mention it wasn't just an NBA title, it was a title won against the most unstoppable villains in the NBA, The not 1 not 2 not 3 Heatles.
That is an integral part of what made him teflon.
Love me some SB, but yall dropped the ball on that highly impactful narrative.
Should have mentioned that was LeBron's first year in Miami, following "The Decision". He made going to the Heat such a big deal with the rest of the "Big Three". And it wasn't just talk; they went 12-3 in the Eastern conference playoffs on their way to the finals. They just looked like some unstoppable juggernaut. And then Dirk happened
@@calvin7330eh. It was mainly because of how weak the East was (outside of Indiana)
@@darrendent8288 The East was weak BECAUSE of LeBron. He wasn't lucky. Teams knew they were drawing dead so nobody wanted to go all in.
LeBron owned the East for a Decade. That's also why so many stars from that era went out West.
He led Dallas and beat the "not 1 not 2 not 3" Heat team. That was his redemption and more than made up to the Mavs failures in the 2000's.
Also -- LeThird said (in a podcast to Redick in 2024) that it wasn't a superteam and that they didn't have enough. HOWEVER, they were up 2-1 in the Finals with a 4th quarter lead...before they (he) flamed out.
Have always had massive respect for Dirk, even as a Spurs fan. Changed the landscape of the league forever 🇩🇪
He's why the foreign stretch big exists now
@@jctsliceAnd probably why some foreign 2000’s players got taken as high as they did
You should've added footage of the Inside the NBA post game show after Denver eliminated Dallas, the panel basically just went all in and called Dirk a loser and said he never would have it. It was brutal
Didn’t he average 35 that series
He did! The panel was in total "....but he don't have that dog!!!" and totally ignoring that was maybe the worst team Prime Dirk ever had. It was just awful
That ring is def the most valuable ring to any player’s legacy ever
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The 2011 Mavs championship has more significance than the 2 KD Warriors championships
If Dirk's 2011 title run did not happened, I'm not sure if he will still be talked about in conversation of the greatest players ever because he couldn't able to do it and be labelled as a choker. I'm glad he did won that title even though it hurts me at that time because I was rooting for the Heat.
Any Dirk slander in the comments will not be tolerated
A̶n̶y̶ ̶D̶i̶r̶k̶ ̶s̶l̶a̶n̶d̶e̶r̶ "Any opinions about Dirk that don't align with mine in the comments will not be tolerated."
Fixed it for you.
@@EssAhrBeeeither way is correct.
@@chrisofchris Nah. Y'all call any opinions that differ from yours "slander". That's childish, Chris. Grow up. **Mute**
@@EssAhrBee well, you childishly muted this, so I’m guessing you won’t see, but you’re still wrong. No Dirk slander will be tolerated in the comments 😂
If Dirk didn't win in 2011 he'd be remembered as a soft choker who never could get it done is that slander? 2011 singlehandedly saved his legacy.
That 2011 Finals really saved Dirks legacy cause before that he would’ve just been another good player who could never get it done
He would’ve been another subject for “untitled” remember that show on this channel?
The script was kinda weak, imo. The gauntlet they went through to win a championship was extremely difficult. Also Mavs front office didn't get enough hate. They made Dirk's life much more difficult than it should've.
Agreed. Portland tested them with some B.Roy late game antics and Andre Miller going nuclear. OKC drew some massive performances from Dirk, but that was still a tough team to beat. And to treat the Heat finals like "oh, he fought through some illness" was quite the understatement. And yes, the Mavs FO wasted a lot of Dirk's years. 100 percent.
As a Spurs fan I hated Dirk as a kid, but the older I get the more I respect his game… that fadeaway from the top of the post was money
As a mavs fan, i hated Tim Duncan as a kid. But as I got older I grew to massively respect his game. His is mr fundamental for a reason.
The feeling was mutual, lol!! hated Duncan and the Spurs for the same reason for him torching us but damn wasn’t he one of the best to ever do it. DIRK MAV GOAT!!!!
Only in TX where rivals are hated to the core, but respect their body of work.
I thought the Spurs were very classy in his lart game in San Antonio they did a video package tribute for him during introductions
I think all thr Texan NBA fans hates the other Texan NBA teams lmao..i hated the rockets and the mavericks..😂😂😂
Shoulda mentioned the crooked ass ref that got to sent to prison for rigging the 06 Finals
that part. they were hacking tf outta dirk
D Wade had 45?!? Or so free throws within two games!! Think they were games 5&6??
-- that series bothered me. Yes, Wade was the aggressor BUT ALSO there were so many phantom calls that helped me realize that some games are weighted in the favor of certain teams (i.e. LAL vs Pippen Blazers and LAL vs C-Webb SAC Kings).
@@jlui21 no doubt stern made a phone call in that Lakers Kings series smh in game 6 LA shot 27 free throws in just the 4th quarter ..
I don't think any single NBA player has had such a storybook ending like Dirk.
We've had so many heroes where they couldn't get over the hump of winning the chip, Nash, CP3, Harden. But for Dirk it felt like he made it there. And yeah he didn't do it all on his own, but the dude was pushing the Mavs through in 2011 through sheer force of will. Even if he's not statistically a goat, his career is unmatched in narrative.
I wouldn't really consider Harden or CP3 heroes lol
That signing photo with Dirk and Nash will forever be hilarious. If someone told me those 2 would become all-time greats I would have laughed my ass off.
They look like they'd make the best 2000's boy band
I'm from the Dallas/Ft Worth area and man Dirk is so beloved here! I was so happy for him in 2011! 🏀🏆
Dirk is the greatest shooting big of his generation imo and he is top five power forward all time arguably
I love Dirks ring and that historic run to that chip against the Heat aka revenge after his finals loss to D Wade
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@@liorpapismedov2519 Giannis and KG are ahead of Dirk. Dirk is a fringe top 5 PF, or maybe just outside the top 5.
Giannis its pretty clear. He has a DPOY and an extra MVP on Dirk. He has better statistics - more points, more rebounds, more assists, more blocks, more steals, higher fg%. Even considering the higher scoring era we are in now vs early 2000s, and considering that Giannis also turns the ball over more, I think its pretty clear that Giannis is better than Dirk and will retire with a better resume. And honestly it won't even be particularly close.
As for Dirk vs KG, this is more of a discussion as their resumes look pretty similar - 1 ring, 1 MVP. Dirk has an FMVP, KG has a DPOY. More or less a wash in that regard. Statistically, Dirk got more points (an average of 3 ppg for his career, or 2 ppg more when they were both in their prime), Dirk turned the ball over less, and Dirk of course had higher 3p% and ft%. Garnett got more rebounds, more assists, more blocks, more steals, higher fg%. Dirk was a slightly better scorer, KG was a better rebounder, playmaker, and much better defender. Overall, I'd give the edge to KG because at his best he could take over a game on both ends of the court. I can see the argument for Dirk, but I think KG is the better player overall and I think the majority of non-biased basketball fans would agree, but it is pretty close.
As for Karl Malone and Chuck... well it depends what you prioritize. Both were great players but neither ever won a championship or FMVP, which gives Dirk an advantage. Otherwise Karl Malone has an almost unbeatable resume though in terms of all star appearances, all-NBA selections (11 first team!), all-Defensive selections, and an extra MVP over Dirk. And Malone had to compete with Michael Jordan and Hakeem Olajuwon for championships. Charles Barkley had this same issue in 1993. His Phoenix Suns pushed the Bulls to 6 games, and Chuck played great, averaging 27.3/13/5.5/1.2/0.5 on 47.6 fg%, but Jordan was unstoppable averaging 41/8.5/6.3/1.7/0.7 on 50.8 fg%, so... I honestly don't know where to rank Chuck compared to Dirk, if the Suns had won that championship they would have a similar resume and Chuck had significantly better career stats, but as it stands I can definitely understand you putting Dirk ahead of Chuck.
When I say Chuck had better career stats than Dirk, its actually pretty stark... Chuck averaged about 2 points, 4 rebounds, and 1-2 assists more than Dirk per game on a 54.1% fg% (versus Dirk's 47.1%). Chuck had twice as many steals and the same amount of blocks as Dirk. Dirk turned the ball over less though.
Charles Barkley's stats are clearly better than Dirk's. But he never won a championship or FMVP.
If the Suns had won that championship, Chuck would have won the FMVP and this would be a very different conversation. But since the Bulls beat the Suns, Dirk clearly has a better resume, but Charles Barkley clearly has better stats... hard to say...
Dirk was the perfect subject for a Prism video. I wonder if Clayton Kershaw will get one at some point.
It was pretty unfair the kind of hate Dirk got for 5 years after '06, considering he was always one of the most humble players, and not the arrogant chest-pounder that people like to see fail. Most of it was likely the media hyping him up, not himself, especially after '03 when the Mavs likely would've won the title had he not been hurt against the Spurs. There's a perceived level of greatness, measured in Rings, and everyone is angry if you don't reach it. One championship was enough for most people to suddenly like him, perhaps because of the competition and past failures, but it's interesting where people draw the line for a "satisfactory career" for each player. Is 1 ring enough for Giannis or Jokic?
dirk's ring is worth more than 10 chased rings like kd's
Dirk "The King of Fades" Nowitzki
As a lifelong Kings fan, I will forever be grateful for Dirk helping Peja get his ring. I absolutely couldn’t stand him, until that point. Now it’s all respect lol
Being from Dallas, that 2011 run was magical. Loyalty never fades!
"Dirk continued his all-star caliber play over the next few years, but as the hits kept coming in the form of first round exits, Dirk seemed doomed to a legacy labeled as a great player, but a failure when it mattered most."
Reminds me of a certain #4 on the other side of Dallas.
DN / DP
Only thing soft about him was his words.
He was a beast through and through.
Dirks 2011 Championship Run is one, if not the greatest run in NBA history possibly with The Hakeem's 95.
Steve Nash with frosted tips is such a cursed image.
One of my favorite players, glad he has been covered.
Clayton Crowley made it big enough that channels as big and great as Secret Base are following his video leads
Let this video’s title be your reminder why commas are important.
I literally laughed out loud.
Here's your crown, king ----> 👑
Awesome! May I suggest an episode on Curt Flood, next? He was one of the most consequential players in the history of baseball and yet the sport has largely forgot about him.
Forget baseball, one of the most consequential players in the history of North American sport!
He’s the one who got me into basketball. He’ll forever be my favorite player of all time. I miss seeing him on the court! 🥲 #MFFL #Forever41
Just imagine in the 2000s west only 3 teams came out of the west Lakers, spurs and the mavs
LA got Kobe
SA got Duncan
Dallas got dirk
This is how great he was
As a Mavs fan who lives in Houston, the amount of Dirk disrespect ive seen is alarming. So glad Dirk has 2011. And D Wade can still go to hell
as a Rockets fan that lives in Dallas, I agree.
ME AND ALL MY HOMIES LOVE DIRK!!!!!!!!!
If he hadn't been an absolute stud in leading his team to the title in 2011, the "choker" label might've been valid but you can't say that about him with the way he came through, not to mention the powerhouse teams in the West he had to always go against throughout his career.
Dirk was a 59 overall in the OG NBA2k (or 2k1 not sure)
I've always remembered that, because, even then, it seemed shockingly low.
Dirk’s ring is the most valuable ring of the 2010’s
I feel like talking about that loss in the finals to the heat, without mentioning the historical calls they ended up getting is messed up lol
That ghost foul on Wade will haunt me until my dying day
So we’re not gonna talk about the foul calls in that 06 finals??? Anytime Dirk drove an touched someone it was offensive foul and anytime Wade drove he got phantom calls. This is why I cant watch some of your videos, you spend 13 minutes but don’t bring up some of the most important points in your segments
Dirk and Timmy were just a different breed
Love the video…but still not even the best Dirk legacy assessment video released this month lol any other Clayton Crowley fans here?
My literal first thought lol
**yawn**
Clayton Crowley is a really good narrator and writer
Dirk gave us white guys with long hair a respectable red in pickup ball.
Doesn’t hurt if you adopt that fadeaway haha.
It was that or Kyle Sigler
I watched his entire career. Simply an all time great player.
@6:48 or it was the fact that Donaghy the refs and Stern who freakin rigged the series. Freakin Wade averaged 18 free throws a game. It was one of the most bs series ever along with Lakers/Kings.
I don't usually feel sentimental about sports stuff but every time I watch a video about Dirk or see some of his highlights I get kind of emotional. I don't think I would trade Dirk's history with the Mavs for several more rings. Even though the Mavericks share a city with one of the most famous sports teams on the entire planet, Dirk still is and always will be Mr. Dallas.
Right after Clayton Crowley made a Dirk video? Can't be coincidence right?
Dirk is one of the best player in history because he was the one who literally destroyed Lebron’s legacy. Now everyone knows Lebron is the real choker .
dirk nowitzki is more successful on the court than charles barkley and every other player who never won a ring
The Heat big three F-ed around and found out how “soft” Dirk was in 2011.
Should’ve really expanded more on the heat win in 2011…kinda felt rushed at the end
What a crazy run in 2011. Ty for the title Dirk. Enjoy your retirement
That championship run is the best I’ve seen since the Rockets 94-95 title. Dirk was certified by that one.
Another BANGER by secret base
I watched Dirk in person once, with his fadeaway beating the Magic at the end of the 4th. We all knew it was coming, and he buried it with more ease than I brush my teeth.
I actually ran into Dirk in summer of 2010 in DFW airport. We talked about the world cup and he took a picture with me and my friend Nafalya which after I regretted because no one went up to him until after us.
This was posted 41 minutes ago when I clicked it , cool coincidence 🤯
Dirks triple threat was one of the best ever, probably only behind Hakeem. He may be the best big man shooter ever, but he was no slouch Face-Up.
Next to feature request is Pau Gasol.
right after clayton crowley lol
What a way to start white boy summer
The We Believe team was NOT an upset. We won the regular season series 3 to 0 and were the specific nightmare scenario for the Mavs: we were a running team that ran them off the court. I think any other path but Golden State or Phoenix gets Dallas to the NBA Finals that year.
BRABO
Name of music in intro?
Favorite player of all time.
1) it was nellys choice to sit Dirk in 03. Cuban wanted him to play and Nelly said no due to the fear he would make the injury worse and then ruin the rest of his career.
2) The 06 finals is now widely considered an inside job by the NBA and if not for the refs gifting Wade and the Heat a title, Dirk would have 2 rings. After the 02 WCF this was one of the biggest screw jobs ever by refs/nba officials.
3) You completely undersold Dirks 2011 playoff run. Dude took a team consisting of Jason Terry as his #2, a 39 yr old Jason Kidd, a former draft bust in Tyson Chandler, & a crap load of role players that were has beens or never was’ and proceeded to go on the greatest playoff run ever. The Blazers had a healthy oden, Roy, & Aldridge. Lakers were 2x defending champs. The Thunder with 3 future MVPs. Finally the heatles. Dirk also had 2 separate streaks of 30 or more free throws made in a row. He was a machine all playoffs & if anything doesn’t get enough love for what he did in 2011.
German Jesus was just a whole another level , despite considering him a choker , a soft player .
He was just a complete version in 2010-11 , with a beautiful Cinderella story run on winning the NBA Championship.
Appreciate making this Prism Player Profiles.
This video is wildly disappointing. Just super lazy. There are myriad reasons that calling Dirk “soft” or a “choker” were bigoted, ignorant, and idiotic BEFORE 2011. This would have been a good opportunity to lay them out. Instead, you spend the entire video regurgitating the laziest most asinine takes as though they were gospel. It’s an embarrassment to secret base.
As someone who followed Dirk from the beginning (live in Dallas pretty much my entire life) he is special for so many more reasons than just what we got to see on the court. He truly is a unicorn when it comes to how this man went about his career.
KG was soft all talk no bite , couldn’t lead a team like Timmy , Dirk , Webber , Ewing , LJ , Shaq , Kemp. KG had to join Pierce along with Ray Allen and only won 1 ring while Kobe was injured
I didn't start really following basketball until 2010 so Dirk, to me, was the man who swept the 2x defending champions. Not soft or a choker, more like The German with the Killer One Legged Post Fade
in my OPINION NON top 50 star sums up dirk nowitzki because he didn't face legends jerry west larry bird magic johnson kareem abdul-jabbar oscar robertson bill russell and wilt chamberlain
Personally, I like Dirk and always did, I just find it hilarious how nobody took him serious for 95% of his career, but in an effort to belittle LeBron, everyone put Dirk on a pedestal after 2011. The goofys that pretend his team wasn’t good are so funny.
NBA standards are pretty much…. If you’re not black, fatherless and from a poor neighborhood you are soft.
Dwade also had a primish Shaq. Other than a short run with Nash then an old J Kidd. Who did Dirk really ever have?
You gotta stop watching when the author of this video is so rigid he reference stuff that happens FOUR YEARS after carrying his team to the Finals, only for that part of his career to be then referenced.
If I was still in my early 20s and didn't mind having my time wasted, I'd watch. But this is less than half way after a laborious intro... I'm out.
People were on Dirk, just like they were on Lebron and then Tatum/Brown. Now they will be on Luka....Its hard to win a chip and especially hard to win in your first finals. Cast, injuries, big stage jitters all effect it.