well a computer provides access to infinite information. have you never heard of google? as for the history textbook, it only helps if the question is about history, which is why i thought it was funny that they were looking for a technology answer in there
The No Life Gamer - you're assuming the school has high speed internet or if they do, that all of the computers in the school access it. What a privileged life you lead.... Also, you're making a lot of presumptions about their access to transportation.
Well legal teachers cannot discriminate students based on income levels, plus internet literally costs 1 dollar a day, also i'm pretty sure that the problem is the opposite.
I don’t have wifi at my mobile home so I have to go to my neighbors house everyday to complete big projects and homework that always require wifi and I take ap classes and I’m still in high school, it’s the biggest struggle. They want us to succeed but don’t give all of us the same advantages
What people should question is why many educators tell kids to memorize trivial information that is all recorded in the internet anyway. Yes, you need to remember some general facts to understand life, but the focus education should be to strengthen one's ability to think critically. Technology has clearly exceeded human mind's capacity to record information, but the real question is whether AI can solve real life problems the same way humans do. High school kids should be learning philosophy instead of memorizing dates.
It also trains you in actually remembering stuff in further education. You can't use the internet for each and every tiny bit of information in your study.
lalakuma9 we... we did learn philosophy. Your precious rant there is conceptually how my social 10, 20, and 30 textbooks started. Every year we had to learn the opinions of some dead people and then write essays on “to what extent do you agree with the above quote”
5 million kids equated to about 1% of the population in the united states and they have other ways of solving this problem like going to the library or studying with a friend
1) It doesn't mean you're blessed, it just means you're family has something that some other families don't... 2) This video proves you wrong, chombo, because it showed that you can't get as much information as fast if you use books instead of the internet. One team for an encyclopedia which was shown here to not help as much, since you need to find the right book, search for the right page, and that takes a lot of time...
Yes, the internet makes things much easier, but it doesn't make or break the situation. I think that students without internet can do just as good as students who have it, but it just takes more effort. What I meant by going to the library (either one in the school or out) wasn't to read books but use their computers... should've worded it better.
But they’d have to put a router on their table, because school Wi-Fi has a range of 6 inches. Also, to make it more realistic, they should put up signal-proof barriers to prevent them from using a cellular hotspot on their phone.
I once told my teacher I couldn't complete a task because I didn't have access to the internet. She laughed at me and called me dumb, saying: "Websites are free for everyone, stop making up excuses."
Yeah, it was in my second or third year of high school xD We had to watch some video's online and I guess she thought I meant I didn't have access to RUclips specifically. So I ended up going to the library after school to watch it on the computers over there. It's sad but teachers are often not very understanding about these kinds of things. That one was the worst but I also had reactions like: 'Well ask a friend of yours to watch it at their computer' or 'ask Santa for fast internet'.
Yeah... I have had a ton of good and inspiring teachers and I'm studying to become one as well. Yet I stand with my point that teachers are also largely responsible for children not wanting to go to schools.
Some people in the comments are missing the larger picture. Kids that don’t have proper access to the internet will struggle two times more just to do the same work. It’s a matter of equal opportunity to succeed.
no-one has equal opportunity. boo hoo. talk to kids with alcoholic parents or learning disabilities or who have to work full time and complete assignments. cry me another one.
So what do you propose? Hand everyone a decent computer and give them all free high speed internet? Get the out of here with that bull. Life is tough. Life is not fair. And it's unforgiving. There is many ways to get access. Go to the library. Use the school computer. Go to a community center. Use your damn phone if you have to and instead of IG, snapping and Facebook. All I hear and see from this ad is a bunch ungrateful lazy people who wants internet to be handed to them.
Maria B then reach out to a classmate to tutor you, go to your local library, or stay after class and ask your teacher for help. Having internet access isn't the only thing. Most public libraries even have computers you can use.
BloodTypeAPlus that’s if you don’t use books daily. Besides the internet has its own problems as well: 1) no internet, no answers 2) you still have to find the correct website with the information.
mirelly miranda alright I know you struggle to understand basic things, so I will dumb it down for you. Typing a question into a computer will always be faster than looking in an encyclopedia.
seriously I cant tell if you're being sarcastic, of course we know how to use books. parents of this generation just don't know how to use computers properly so they don't know how stupid it is to sit there and look for ten minutes when you can type a question in five seconds
Granting more kids internet access is great (go for it), but the real answer to this problem is for every teacher to be mindful of every assignment they give. If a teacher is giving an assignment that requires internet access then they need to go back to the drawing board and retool the assignment for those that don't have it. That said, a child and their parents should speak up whenever this happens...as well as consider using public facilities, but even that can be an issue for some families, logistically, given closing times and work schedules. Bottom line, teachers, be considerate of the resources available to all of your students. Don't assume.
ChrisJ Fox yeah, and maybe schools should have more access to things like computers in library's, used for assignments and stuff, not just in computer lessons (if the school does have). And if you want to give an assignment, I think the internet shouldn't be needed for it. Not everyone has a computer or a phone or even internet!
Yes yes YES! My school is very mindful of this and they are sure to give all kids opportunities to complete things on paper or allowing them extra time in study hall to get things done if they don't have internet. It KILLS ME that not all kids have this opportunity. My schools makes it mandatory that if a parent can write a note saying their child did not have internet access, the teachers have to give them more time and access to school library to finish it. More schools need to do this it makes life so much easier for so many kids!!
ChrisJ Fox Here, in Denmark, it is VERY rare for a student to not have a computer and internet (and in most cases it is only temporarily, such as the computer breaks etc.) In the obligatory school (first ten years) the school doesn't give homework, that must be done on a computer. All work on computer is done in school-time on school computers (though, They Are so crappy that some of the older students might bring their own) In a few cases a student borrows a computer from the school (mostly kids with learning disabilities like dyslexia, since There's plenty of online ressources for it) If applying for gymnasium, students must bring their own computer, but the school has free internet to use. Mine was open until 16.30 with classes ending at 15.15 latest. Most of the time You had earlier free from class or a free period in the middle. I'd get most of my homework done at school, since we could help each other and I had to wait a long time for the bus anyway (the joy of Living in the countryside)
I never used to have internet access at home and my teachers would set homework that I would need the internet for. I would always tell them that I do not have internet access at home, they would then say that I should stay after school and use the school computers to complete the homework. It was so difficult to do this because I had to go home for other reasons. when it is pretty much sunset when I am walking home normally, how am I supposed to stay behind for an extra hour and then walk the half hour journey on my own in the dark?
Why is most people saying go to the library in the comments it’s not that easy In my school the library is open at lunch and after school so you can go there but if you think about it if other children are having fun during there lunch and you had to stay in at lunch to do this homework because you don’t have internet/tech at home it would not be fair at all this is disgusting it isolates you in a bad way
First of all replace is with are and there with their. Second of all punctuate. Third of all missing out on fun at lunch isn't as important as the homework. And public library's can loan you laptops to borrow so all you need is the schools Internet or maybe a Starbucks or bookstore. There are way kids just have to be creative to get it done. This video is dishonest and don't these kids have cell phones that do the same shut as there computer would do. Honestly engine who falls for this is too gullible
There are a lot of judgmental people in the comment section who are either better off (it’s always harder for those types to place themselves in others shoes because everything’s within arm’s reach) or have forgotten what it’s like to be a child/teen who’s poor, having to struggle to get by each day because you can’t legally work and know of no one with a car.
There are far too many dogs inside American homes. I can say this for certain because 75% of students are unable to complete their homework because their dog ate it.
If net neutrality is removed, then internet service providers will be given the ability to act like the mafia and demand bribes from websites just to keep their bandwidth the same. In other words, only corporate sites will be able to afford it and they'll take over the internet.
Throughout all the education I've received there's always been books covering the entire subject. If the teachers set homework of which the book can't answer then it's the teachers not doing his/her job properly. I reckon books should be encouraged since it lessens the amount of distractions the students can encounter whilst studying. The internet is also full of lies and incorrect facts in comparison to books which don't have any of those risks. Certainly for early education books are also a lot cheaper than buying a PC/laptop + the monthly cost of your broadband contract and in most cases I'd imagine the teachers would allow students to borrow the school's books thereby reducing the costs to nil. The video also mentions that "5 million households don't have access to high speed internet connection". I don't understand why this is included since the household still has internet connection, it might not be "high speed" but I know that loading fact sites off google search doesn't require high bandwidth or high internet speed so slow internet shouldn't be a problem. The education system is fucked up but don't blame it on the internet.
Books can be wrong too. Often they're outdated. Sure the internet often spouts gibberish but you just need to have the skill to know when it is doing that and check your facts. Also, should what you learn be limited by whats in the books?
Books are crazy expensive, you could buy a chrome book and buy a years worth of decent internet for the price of three books. One class in high school had me use 5 books throughout the year. Here’s a laptop that’s cheaper than even one of those books www.bestbuy.com/site/acer-15-6-chromebook-intel-celeron-4gb-memory-16gb-emmc-flash-memory-granite-gray/6170703.p?skuId=6170703&cmp=RMX&extStoreId=394&ref=212&loc=1&gclid=CPjLxamx3doCFWOJxQIdGWMOTQ&gclsrc=ds
This is already a well known statistic. Making the video viral does nothing. Sorry. This is already well known and nothing! No one!!! Does anything about it....they don’t do anything about it at all!!!! Because they don’t care. That’s our government. They will never care about education or poor people. I promise. Bring attention to it is great but it is also so so so pointless. Nothing will change.
To many of these obvious videos go viral just over people trying to push emotions. It's especially obvious just by taking a look at the way they simply present the video.
Chicken Clips It wasn't an ad. It was a video to spread awareness about this topic and encourage people to visit their website to learn more about it and help
Definitely open my eyes to the many disadvantages that other people face but on the other hand, I do know the difficulty that they go through and I've experienced it myself but I sometimes take them for granted! This was a 'wake up' call to enjoy things, share with other, and stay grateful! -Sara (from SaraandErsh❈✨)
Sara And Ersh yeah but the video is out of context first of all their is no proof of these cliams and even where they are coming from. The whole video was sonspored by sprint a internet accesse company as shown in the description honestly I think the video is highly misleading
I do understand why you find the video misleading, but I personally was speaking about the lessons that people can take away from the video due to some personal experiences.
why shouldn't they have internet access? imagine trying to do homework these days without it. its possible but a lot harder. the facts may be a bit biased in this video but the point still stands that the internet is very important to have these days
みさきめい having internet at school isn't a handout it should be a given if the homework is required online. How are you supposed to do something that requires the internet but you don't have it but not to say literally every school has internet now so this is not a problem but its not a handout
Immersive Comics education is important. Lots of my homework recquires access to the internet. Telling kids to work hard and they'll get far in life when some are at a massive disadvantage from the start
Utter Otter CHOICE Only poor structured classes assign homework that requires access to the internet. Good teachers make sure you understand the material and assign work that was previously discussed in class or that is in the book. If a student can simply look up the answer and write it down then they do not learn. In mathematics, there are several websites and applications which can solve problems without the students putting in effort. I think we would both agree that the student who took the time to write down the problem and struggled through it will generally do better in the test than the student who looked up the answer. If anything, the real problem are poor curriculum and lazy teachers. Internet access is very important for learning, but not for school homework. This video is just another mild thing that people want to be outraged about. People love being outraged.
Not true, net neutrality is something that as you said, will affect a majority of people. If it gets taken away then teachers will most likely not assign assignments that they themself will be marking or looking for plagiarism. If net neutrality is taken away then marking gets harder for teachers that have to pay bills too. And school funding might not be able to cover them.
I spent all of my junior and senior year at the public library. I live in a smaller town so buses stopped at 6pm. I would have to either hope I got my work done on time or walk the 3 miles back home (on a highway) or 5 miles if I walk around (off the highway). It was a struggle but I graduated
I agree. This happens a lot in our school. And when my mom took away the internet from me for a year my grades dropped severely and I was about to pick it back up with the help of friends. If they weren't there idk what I'd do. This is also something those in Congress need to think about before passing the anti-net neutrality bill.
Damn what you do to get internet taken away for a WHOLE YEAR?! I have restricted my kids internet access to just EDUCATIONAL purposes for their schoolwork, but never entirely because that would be dumb since their schoolwork requires internet. I care about my childrens' grades.
All these diverse cities having better internet then that of white rural areas is clearly migrant privilege. They need to check themselves and give whitey a hand
IdioticProgramming if inner city kids have good net it is because the white collar ants working in the city need it. But so what about internet if you dont have a pc or tablet to access it. I don't understand what you mean.
Seeing this brings back memories of mine, the struggles I've been through. My teachers would always give us assignments involving the internet, we had to research print it and everything... They didn't know I don't have wifi and printer . I would have to depend on this smart broadband which doesn't give a strong signal, which causes me to sleep late and all that. The teachers would get mad at me for passing my requirements late and I would receive lower grades.They just didn't know that I have a situation.
at my school, you have to fill out a door mat says whether you have access to this kind of technology, and if you don’t, they will help with that. why couldn’t you have just told your teacher so they could do something about it instead of just having to get bad grades and turn in assignments late?
Wow I've actually never realized that so many people had trouble completing homework because of a lack of high speed internet connection. Here in the Silicon Valley, we all just take it for granted. If this is a serious issue, it should definitely be addressed.
Helen Long oh yes high speed internet is such a requirement, I have like less than a mb of download at my house and I still do all my homework, this is a weak ass excuse and another way of people sheltering behind charity
Some courses it's fine, other courses the teacher requires you to do so many things electronically. I could never afford Office until recently so a major annoyance is trying to open .docx or .doc assignments that won't open on my computer. (So I had to convert the file format on the school computer during lunch break and put it on a usb so I could work on it at home without internet) In some cases it's not money related at all too. Like, I live in a pretty rural area and no internet service provider has agreed to cover my family's house. We only get internet from a router tower i built on the garage that gets it from our nearest neighbour. Any bad weather and it gets shut right off. And its not just that, often the school sends time sensitive information over the internet. Which means not having it for a bit can screw things up. I'm lucky because my friends text me if something like school being cancelled that day happens.
you can always install windows into your computer or laptop, its what i did, and with that you should be able to open most documents. If you haven't looked for a way to fix the problem, then don't complain, and if he can txt you about time sensitive information, i really don't see what your problem is. i had to walk 20 blocks if i wanted to go to the public library, don't complain because other people have it easier just work harder. When you finally get a job you'll be able to support a family, that won't have it as harsh as you.
leednata120, I use this chrome extension and it helps greatly, just drag a microsoft office file into chome, and it'll convert it into a google docs, or slide, or sheets and whatnot. chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/office-editing-for-docs-s/gbkeegbaiigmenfmjfclcdgdpimamgkj
I have windows on my computer, I have wasted hours trying to solve this problem. I live in the country with no library access unless I get a ride 40mins by car to the nearest city. The town where my school is doesn't have a library. My bus leaves right after school and takes more than an hour to get home, so unless I can find a ride I can't stay to use the school library (which closes half an hour after school ends anyways). Basically if my home internet blows the night an assignment is due, I'm screwed. I'm not trying to complain just for the sake of complaining. I mean, obviously I've been handling it. However, I think it's irresponsible not to speak out about an ever increasing inequality in education. It's not for my sake that I want to see this change, I'll have graduated and be long gone. I'm really lucky that in the early grades this was never an issue for me, but nowadays younger and younger kids are ramming into this wall. If a 2nd grader can't complete their homework due to lack of technology they'll be frustrated and possibly give up trying. It is a problem many in rural areas deal with, especially since the curriculum itself these days expects you to have unfettered access to the internet. A lot of the kids at my school deal with some form of this problem and I think it's one of the reasons so few of them leave after graduation to pursue higher education.
Finland and Denmark assign very little homework (and often none at all), and their students academically surpass North America and many other countries who give large amounts of homework.
But how would you reinforce the material you learn? In our current education system without homework, kids, especially in high school, would fail tests and quizzes without homework because they would be completely unmotivated to study or practice. The idea of no homework sounds nice, but wouldn’t help us advance in education.
microjas10 There are studies in many developed countries proving that countries with no/little homework have much better test scores than countries with homework, especially with large amounts.
Or we could change the School System o that we don't assign homework like they do in Finland and many other countries with successful educational systems.
just a girl From my experience the working class have no interest in academia or wider education. They are more concerned with 'Soccer Teams' and 'Pulling girls' than success.
Joseph H I just think it's funny, like if we don't provide education for the poor, there will always be a class divide and wealth divide, and the poor will never be able to get out of poverty. Do you really want to live in such an old fashioned society? Or do you want to push the boundaries and live in the best society possible? Also, please don't stereotype the poor, and don't use those stereotypes to justify not educating them.
just a girl It is my view that not all humans are compatible and different ''''groups'''' are better off separate. I think you know what I'm referring to.
There are actually a lot of places where people don't have a library near them, and there are kids who live in conditions where even if there is one, they can't go. Maybe the only way is to drive, and they have no way to get there or a person to take them. Maybe they live in a neighborhood prone to violence and danger, so their parents wouldn't want to risk them going out for the sake of an assignment. It's not that simple
I remember when I was in grade seven, and my teacher said one of the requirements for her class was a laptop and of course internet. I didn't have a laptop, and there were times where I've went months without it. I would get detention for handing in written essays. Teachers need to realize that just because the majority has access to something, doesn't mean everybody does...
You do understand that the removal of net neutrality has no effect on access to the internet, right? Students don't have internet due to the availability of internet and the costs.
Droppin Tech but it does effect access to websites that use the internet. Keep in mind that the internet is useless if you can't use the websites. All you might have that is useful without the internet is a calculator, a notebook, and games that you can download from a cd. I could save hundreds of dollars if I just bought a calculator and a notebook from the store.
>I Showed him my d**, Having to pay even more is bad for, say, new startup companies, or other companies that can't afford to pay extra to be available on the internet. Some sites maybe don't generate much profit and having to pay even more would impact them badly in the long run.
As a public school teacher in rural North Carolina, I totally get this. Luckily, my school has fast internet and each kid is one-to-one on a MacBook Air, but half of my kids don't have internet at home. We have Spectrum here and that's it. It's expensive and not very fast, and on top of that, I live in town and that's my situation. In the middle of nowhere where my kids live, there is no library, there is no internet connection. Their parents work double shifts to put food on the table, much less have the time to drive the half an hour to our county library... I try my best to help them with the internet access at school by trying to not assign homework that requires internet but it's hard. If everyone of my kids had access, we could be doing so much more, like flipped classrooms. And now with the possibility of losing net neutrality... Not sure what the future holds.
This is how it is in rural middle America too. No public transit, no real "parental assistance" due to working and all well paying jobs being an hour or more away. We do have a local public library, but you have to pay monthly if you're going there to use wifi/computers and said library is the only place where we have a 'coffee shop' in town. We're also not allowed on school grounds after hours unless with a specific after school group so even using resources at/from school is a no go. To further add salt to the wound they took away our 4 period blocking and doubled it to 8, this doubled the homework load while reducing actual class hours while learning/working/ect. Like having to do back flips to get some things done wasn't bad enough, at an age where you actually have very little control over anything including yourself, but now I'm having to go home and 'school myself' (homework) basically until I go to bed.
What subject do you teach that "requires" internet access? I taught for a bit, and I never had a problem keeping the lesson plan well within the resources I (and my students) had available.
TisiphonesShadow I teach language arts, which normally, yes, I could teach out of the textbook, but... We don't have any textbooks at school. The ones we do have are almost 15 years old and out of date with our new curriculum. I'm fairly young and the expectations for new teachers, especially in college, is to incorporate as much technology as possible. When I first came to school 5 years ago, we had ONE computer cart with "bricks" that were supposedly would work but wouldn't connect to the internet, which was meant to facilitate over 600 students in my middle school. So, I had all these plans and ideas from college I couldn't use because of poor access to the internet or technology... This is a very common issue in modern education, especially for inner city or rural areas. I do teach novels (which I have to borrow from other places) but just reading and answer comprehension questions just isn't enough.
isn't it cheaper to buy a book than a macbook? I don't understand. Book fees n HS are 10x cheaper than cost of uni textbooks. And where do you find full books online? You mean like kindle app-type e-books? And whatever happened to printed handouts/worksheets?
keep in mind, they said "high-speed internet", they didn't say they didn't have any access to any form of the internet. Dial-up is still around, and everyone has access to that unless these people don't have phone lines.
There are plenty of rural areas that don't have signal for internet or satellite. I'm being really hard on this, but there are options. The ones without friends, cell phones, or internet that have to ride a bus and live too far to walk to a library and have no one to drive them are the ones that really need help. I'm just thinking it would be easier to change the way homework has to be completed or for the class to go to the computer lab for research during that class period.
1) dial-up means not getting information fast enough, like it could take hours vs seconds, and by then your homework time is up 2) dial-up means needing a modem and if you've noticed it's actually now hard to find a modem in a computer. I haven't found one in over a decade.
1) you're over exaggerating. yes it will take longer, but not hours. didn't for me when I was younger. 2) you can get a usb modem from Walmart, or the telephone company in rural areas can provide one 3) you clearly think assumptions are truth, you're not going to get very far in life with that lazy thinking
This never stopped me. I admit i barely get a good internet so i visit the library for the computers and still it's full of people literally playing. so i spend so many hours in the library hitting the books. i go pretty far to have my papers printed. I manage to finish college, there's always a way ain't gonna be pretty though. Moral lesson of the videos : DON'T GIVE ASSIGNMENTS they gave the computer at the end when the competition finished
This is what I used to go through and this is what my brother is going through. We don’t have internet and he doesn’t have a cell phone and he’s 17. This should be recognized. Not everyone is lucky enough to be in a stable home living in comfort.
eufogia I don’t find anything funny about it. It’s so sad that kids are struggling because they don’t have access to anything. They could’ve gotten a better grade if they did. Even if they didn’t it would be so hard for them.. and they’re thankful that they do have access to the computers and everything, unlike kids who can’t afford anything. Sorry for my grammar I don’t speak English
+Whizzer Before 2015, the Internet Industry isn't the size it is today. Back then, most people still only had 1 or 2 shared computers but now, living in a middle class home can give everybody their own individual laptop and phone. Monopolizing the internet wasn't a real goal of tech companies until the global boom in 2015/2016 as to which Net Neutrality was installed to protect our institutions.
Josh Dawson Yes, but that doesn't conclude that sqrt(144)=12. Sqrt is a function, and a function can only give one answer. Put sqrt(144) onto a graphing calculator, and I guarantee you it will never equal -12.
I disagree. The internet only helps you get your answer quicker. Just by googling it, the answers pop right up. Books can also help you get your answer, but it’s slower, you need to look at the table of contents, flip pages,etc. I don’t think not having internet is an excuse for not doing homework or not doing as good as others in school who do have internet. Using online math calculators, putting your problem in the box and clicking “solve” doesn’t really help you learn how to simplify rational expression. Books/textbooks show you how to solve it by giving examples and steps. I didn’t have a phone, computer, or internet when I was a kid. I still had the best grades in class
Taehyung's tongue Jimin's hair I understand what your point, but many schools today use technology in a different way. Technology isn’t optional, it’s a necessity. Speaking from experience, almost all of my assignments have to be typed or turned in online through apps like google classroom and turn it in. If i didn’t have internet at home I would be screwed.
and I didn't either and the homework was adjusted, tailored, slowly put into place not to need computers. It's easy enough to make it so having no computer means you can't finish the assignment in time. They didn't even believe in 1990 that computers would BE a thing as a resource and trying to use online web sites as citation sources was rejected 100% in all my classes.
ness lmao if you didn’t have a computer to turn in assignments that were assigned to you, wouldn’t you tell your teacher that you couldnt afford one? Is not that hard, even if you can’t get one, library’s with Pc’s are available and asking your teacher for a printout is also available
I agree and think this should be the top comment amongst everything else said on this video. This activity did provide "shocking" results but at the end of the day... none of these students are really learning anything. This is a test on speed moreso. You could spend 2 min looking online or 2 hours looking through a textbook but to achieve any score on the same homework with or without the same resources does not really say anything about what they have "learned" or accumulated (just their overall efficiency and "performance" bc that shows good workers)... Testing them on how fast they can regurgitate, that is simply it. Its sad how our education system is set up to begin with. Poor kids.
NamiBurger So you don't think those students who have to spend 2 hours looking for the same answer a student could get in 2 minutes could use that time doing something more productive like other coursework or reading a book? If they don't have the internet and instead have to rely on age old textbooks without updated information, are they not at a loss? If they were given a research paper to do, do the students with laptops and internet connection not have infinitely more resources than those with only textbooks? How are they expected to perform at the same standards? There are more uses to the internet than regurgitation of information, to think that is narrow-minded.
What do you mean by "your"? Are you referring to the people in this video, the people reading your comment, or Americans? Also, broadband in the United States does suck.
As a creator and civic innovation specialist working in STL on racial equity issues, I appreciate this video for how it illustrates such an important challenge in our work to ensure educational equity for communities. Thank you for creating this simulation. I will indeed share it with my team and the collective of organizations we are engaging. 🤘🏾🙏🏾
De Nichols What they don't remind you about is the fact that the students would have notes for every single one of these questions if the teacher was asking them.
Not always I had to write many many many papers with my old worn encyclopedias, and got points taken due to inaccurate facts. Hell in college I learned to quit taking notes all together in some classes because most the time anything discussed in class actually wasn't what we were being tested on but rather the book chapters, then I had other classes that were the total opposite where the book wasn't used at all but it was only your notes. Then there is the fact that with internet and a computer of some type you can email your teachers and ask for help (privately) and that's where most parent/teacher talks take place; which is what's expected of you to do now days. Dispute it as much as you like but the fact is computers and internet are so infused into our daily lives you're at a HUGE disadvantage without either. Example: I put off getting a smart phone until a couple months ago when I realized that I can't even save a dollar without a stores coupon app because not only was it the only way they even offered coupons anymore but also because for some reason anything more than a swipe or scan gets you ridiculed and shoved around . . . by adults. Want a better job? Even McDonalds only takes online applications anymore where I am. "But but but LIBRARY" This place charges monthly in most areas now apparently. I paid nearly $300 a month to have access to a PUBLIC library with internet and even then it's not open when I need it to be and I'm not guaranteed a computer when I'm there. Thankfully I was in college and had a job, but it would have been a lot easier to save the money up to get my own pc and internet access had I not had to shell out all that money to use a computer somewhere else.
This is also a video on youtube . . . while their presentation is probably a planned thing it does not negate the fact that there is truth to it. Also it's a truth that since the No Child Left Behind act some places will knowingly pass a student that can't read and can barely write their name since passing is funding. First you were on about taking notes and since someone said it's not always taking notes now you want to say the questions were too easy. Seems like you're deliberately trying to avoid the actual issue here which is: Having access to a computer/internet when you need it is a HUGE issue when so many forms of education and life now depend on it. Children in school should not be dis-serviced or made to work harder because they come from a family that cannot afford ____, because their single parent works too many hours, or because you have access to what they don't so it's not an issue for you. Same goes for those trying to make it in life and get by I had gotten plenty of jobs when I was younger via 'help wanted' adds and signs no so much the case anymore. Even for a basic job you need the internet a way to access it frequently since they'll most likely also be responding via email.
Access is a challenge, but less so than a dearth of enriching educational experiences. Let's not pretend that this video addressed innovative education, when it simulates so much of the low-level questioning in schools that perpetuate inequity between schools.
In the hood , most of those areas have closed public libraries. Some schools dont have the access to some students that come from difficult circumstances. If you didnt grow up in the low income/ hood , it would be very difficult for anyone outside of it to understand. Kids aren't dumb , they've been given a bad start 😔
I don't mean to harsh but people crying over not having the internet seems so trivial and pathetic in comparison to people without clean water, food or electricity
Margot Madden The first world problems we face today are going to be global problems in the future if we don't learn to cope with them now. Universal internet is objectively less important than water or heat, yes, but it's still a problem that needs to be solved in order to give kids equal access to required information and maximize the quality and speed of their learning.
Is it possible that people without internet may also be without food and water and/or electricity? Lighten up bruh...too judgmental. Everybody has their set of problems.
The numbers are obviously inflated because you do not need a high speed internet connection to do homework. You can get by with a 3G cell phone connection just fine.
yep That's how the cell phone companies work. I mean the deal is they're using the cell phone towers to transmit what goes on a coaxial cable in the ground. That is to say the towers transmission bandwidth is much smaller.
It’s amazing how privileged we are, yet take it for granted. How other people in my class struggle and have to spend time after to school to turn in homework online, while I don’t even turn in my homework sometimes even when I have everything one click away.
I think that the event failed because the people who were given the textbooks assumed that all the answers would be inside of them. Even more so was that they were only two things; an encyclopedia and a history book. Now, some of these answers are also subjective. LCD can mean many things, such as Liquid Crystal Display, Least Common Denominator, etc. Some of these questions are also hilarious, despite that some of them are left out ("Who invented Morse code?"). Does information retrieval shorten based on having access to the internet? Yeah, duh. Are kids given devices connected to the internet for tests? No. Most if not all the material is based in the textbooks, and don't get me started on how those are selected.
"Who invented Morse code?" Well, it'd be quite far from correct just to say 'Samuel Morse' and leave it at that. Morse planned a code based on sending numbers, and a codebook for converting between numbers and words. Alfred Vail expanded on the idea, making a code that could do letters directly. And then it was changed a bit, for internationalization, in 1851 into the Morse code we have now.
@JNCressey Vail never called the code his own, and in fact attributed it to Morse. Therefore I don't see why he would be the original inventor, as usually inventors attribute their results to themselves.
Panda Girl They teach you in American schools to find the lowest common denominator because it makes simplifying fractions easier but at least in my experience stop in higher levels and just require a common denominator
Please do something similar for adults doing resumes and applying for jobs and how it applies to those with $ and those without. Thank you for videos like this!
100% this please!! Even McD's is apply online only, walmart has you do a 101+ questionnaire just to get into the application, and basically any place that actually has business is done online . . . or because you know someone; neither of which helps someone who is qualified, but poorer, and isolated.
Because you need qualifications to get to the next step in life. Like in England you need decent a level grades in order to even be considered by a university. What you learn at school isn't always applicable to your life, but you can put it on a CV
You're getting a bit of flack for this but your question is a good one. The style of learning in the US today is memory-heavy, and in the information age, that simply isn't viable anymore.
Not all libraries have internet and even then your usage is timed and can only be extended so much furthermore if the computers are all taken up then your s.o.l
This video kind of misses the point, the point of learning is not to regurgitate data back after you look it up, but to internalize it and memorize it, i guarantee someone who had to spend the effort to look something up in a textbook would remember it longer than someone who just googled it on their lappy or phone.
Something to add, good luck doing a blackboard assignment, ( or any other online only homework server.) Without a computer. Unless you are able to print the asignment at school, your pretty screwed Believe me, i know. If you live in a remote area; It's next to impossible to obtain high speed internet service. Your options are ether satellite, or a 4g hotspot. Satellite internet will work at any home no matter how remote. However, satellite internet tends to be slow and suffers from reliability issues. Also, the service is expensive. a 4g hotspot is ussually faster and more reliable than satellite internet. However, it only works if your within a limited coverage. The hotspot also has a small monthly allowance of data. If you get a blackboard assignment that requires watching a video, you will burn through the data quick.
I believe that the internet is a wonderful tool for anything including learning. However, there can be a lot of wrong or untrue information. There was a time before the internet that students actually had to use books to get the answers like myself and actually remember it. Retaining knowledge is a wonderful and good tool. Relying on the internet to learn can be harmful to the learning process and is lazy.
Did you miss the point of the video? The shocking part is that schools doesn't care if the students can afford internet-acess to complete the homework that the school forces them to do, which means that they will have it harder to succeed later in life.
Maybe ppl these days rely on tech for to much, a lil hard work only benefits you. You don’t need answers in 10 seconds you might need to do reading for research, wow what a concept to read a book.
Without the internet I would of failed pre calculus! Our textbook was online and we didn’t get any physical books. To count The many times I had to look up how to do something on Khan or RUclips to understand a lesson would be a lot.
I am sorry that your school handled the textbooks situation that way. If your textbooks are online but your don’t give your students access to it, then how will they learn. That kinda thinking is oxymoronic
Yoongi, yes I know that’s what they are saying, I was be sarcastic. We all know the internet is faster. I believe what the video is saying, is that without the internet students won’t be able to get a proper education compared to students who do I have the internet. I don’t believe it, although the internet is faster it doesn’t mean better. Making a student have to research and use time to do so help build patience and hard work. Just like all technology the internet is a good tool but it also has negative side effects
As insightful as this video is, the comments are even more so. I was initially astounded that 18 people gave the video a "thumbs down" but I see many comments that seem to defend elitism and deny that there are groups of people more privileged than others. Maybe you are someone who started with nothing and worked and worked until you reached success - does that really give you permission to expect everyone else in the world to do the same?
Yes. If I expend effort to succeed, I should not have to allow others to freeload off of my work. I gave up sports and parties to study and learn. That allowed me a greater value in society based on my ability to contribute more. People who played sports, got drunk or high all the time, refused to control their baser instincts CHOSE to have less value to society. It isn't elitism, but rather survival of the fittest.
Before I moved to a western country, I grew up in a place where technology wasn't used by many (like for real, most people had keypad/flip phones. I was so surprised that so many kids had touchscreen phones when I moved, some high schoolers don't even have phones and most use keypad/flip phones like I said.) But homework wasn't a problem for me (except for big projects, I usually go to computer shops). So I was shocked at how much easier it is with the help of technology and how I even survived school without it before. I was also surprised at how uneducated and late I was with this so called "Internet", social media, trends, and basically anything that was happening around the world. What's sad is that I don't see any kids playing outside when I moved to a western country. Just shows how much technology change the society.
This is so heartbreaking obviously, and lots of times I've had to go without internet when I'm at my fathers but I think that a student should bring a parent in as it should be the teachers duty to understand what a child's home life and living standards are so they can compete fairly with other students. That's how it works in my high school like when I was living pretty badly at my fathers I went to the teacher and explained he understood perfectly and said I could use his computer at lunch time or he would print of help sheets for me So glad my teacher was like that school would have sucked otherwise It's so heartbreaking to think of all the people who have huge anxieties over detentions like I did and scared of there student record and if they'd get into college it's sad. So sad
ok but what is the solution then? we live in an internet driven world and we can't slow down progress. Why point out a problem everyone knows exists but then not offer a possible solution? and what is up with those over the top fake crying reactions?
But not everybody lives in walking distance of a library, and their parents may not have the time or money to take them (and honestly, you can't really make your parents drive you anywhere).
www.census.gov/history/pdf/2013computeruse.pdf According to the U.S. census bureau, 21-25.6% of America had no paid internet subscription in 2013. Thats 65-81 million people
Allie Hanichak Actually, if you look at a more recent study: www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2017/acs/acs-37.pdf It shows that 94.8% of households with members under 18 had access to a computer and 85.1% with any internet subscription. This does not include the 4.2% of households who used internet without a subscription. Keep in mind that this study is two years old, so the numbers are likely to have increased drastically, as they did in comparison to the 2013 study. I don’t know where they are pulling these statistics from, and whether they are international or not, but if they are, shouldn’t they be using this money to fund for basic human needs? What’s the use of a computer much less the internet, if you have no where to live or nothing to eat?
I'm not fighting with any1 rip. just wanted to post link for interpretation. also they get the facts from their censuses in the USA lmao. and finally, man that last sentence, that wasn't the point of the video. the video was about equal education
I’m glad my high school asks students if they have working internet when the use of computers are necessary and either print out the needed articles or create a new assignment. I wasn’t aware other schools didn’t.
Honestly there are so many places that have free Wifi nowadays that I don't think this really matters. Having internet access should not be the problem. The problem is kids having access to computers. Any Public Library, McDonalds, Starbucks, and dozens of other locations give you access to wifi. However, there are very limited options when it comes to having access to computers. I think this video went about this in the completely wrong way. Even the ONE fact they used still states that those 5 million kids only have access to SLOW internet. I'm sure there are tens of millions of kids who have NO access to computers. That's really what major problem is.
Having no internet access is actually a major problem. There are more people without internet access, 1/5 of the population, than people that can't afford computers. The problem usually isn't affordability, it's availability. But I agree with you that the 50% statistic is absurd.
I see this happen at my own school all the time, they worthier have to get there extra early or stay after school once a week for 2 hours maximum but if they ride the bus or if it’s a project requiring more than 2 hours a week they definitely are left at a disadvantage that teachers push aside.
This also supports how important is net neutrality. A lot of schools have libraries with computer labs open to students, but without net neutrality even more students would be put at an disadvantage because they won’t be able to afford the internet. As of now 3/5 people decided to make the internet more expensive than it already is. Please look into this.
“The internet WILL destroy your mind”, yes, the thing that will expand my mind instead will destroy it. YES, great advice from parents who aren’t willing to adapt to changes.
Do these kids not even know how to use textbooks? There are these things such as the table of contents, glossary, and index which can help you find info faster than just flipping through pages. Crazy I know.
I'm not saying that it's hard to learn, but because it's not taught many don't ever bother to learn on their own how to use them. And while you may think it's not that hard, some people struggle with it. I actually agree that it's not hard to use, and that people should know how to make use of them (electronic resources are not always available, if nothing else), but the reality of the situation remains that many don't. As computers become more prevalent, the usage of physical indexes, glossaries, dictionaries, etc. will continue to decrease, and knowledge of how to effectively use them will become less common.
1) I live in North Carolina and quite a few people I know don't even have access to libraries and the internet. There are not any near their house (where they could walk to) and they don't have a car they can use (parents use the one they have to go to work). Plus, public transportation sucks here and there are very few bus stops at all. 2) A lot of time, teachers will think that you are telling an excuse and will look at the situation the same way that you did. What if the kid does not have access to a library or even just go to the library that day? You never know and a lot of teachers don't trust students as much (especially in larger schools where teachers don't have as strong relationships with students). Believe me, I know firsthand how it feels.
Even if your teacher gives you an alternate assignment without the internet it'll still take much longer. You saw how much faster work on the computer was vs. work flipping through the textbook
I live in NC too and our education system ranks somewhere between 14 to 10th in the country. Why? Because we've implemented a lot of our money to involving technology in our schools. I don't know what rundown part you live in but all the schools in my county has a library with computers that you can use to stay after school and finish homework. Teachers also always ask at the beginning of the year if you have access to computers and if you don't they work with you or give you extra time. Plus most of the "projects"(as in neighborhoods) have community centers for students to access computers. Again I don't know if you live in some rundown village but in Charlotte the public transportation is far from bad.
Clorox Bleach Crystals true. But that's the whole point of the homework gap is that it is unfair and life is unfair.. but it shouldn't be. What if you had to take an extra half hour on EVERY project and an extra 10 minutes on EVERY homework assignment through school.. That's a hell a lot more time
They have time. In middle class families, men usually work and women don't or have jobs that do not take a lot of their time. And probably the fathers probably wouldn't care about that.
look-ie loo Have they ever heard of a bicycle or walking? How does taking the bus to school make you stranded at home. I rode my bike everywhere when I was a kid, my parents didn't drive me anywhere unless it was way too far away to ride.
Some schools are deep in the country where the library would be miles away and they may not have transportation. Thing is, not everything you may have access to, is accessible to others.
I definitely take for the granted that if i didn’t know the answer to something I could just type it in my phone and I would get the answer . It is so eye-opening ! Every parent , teacher and student must watch this
When the part with the computers started, I was sure that the point of the video will be something different. I thought about the problem of older people (for example family or teachers) being reluctant about students using the Internet for homework. Cause sometimes they are prejudiced, thinking that young people use computers only for playing games and "I need the computer for school" is just an excuse to play instead of doing homework. Or they treat it like cheating, when someone finds something ten times faster than the teacher. Or just just because they don't trust the internet (even the trusted parts) as much as they trust their books. Seriously, I was absolutely convinced it's the subject of discussion here. But it only made me realize how different is learning in the US from learning in my country. Where I went to school, we had the opportunity to do homework on computers, but not all teachers allowed it. Plus, most teachers did not accept essays written on the computer - only handwritten. Now it seems bizarre and illogical, as printing work would save us a whole lot of time. But I also understand what was their purpose - currently many kids and teens can't write correctly and legibly and doesn't even know how to use books, for example, search for entries in the encyclopedia. So, my main thought is: YES, use the internet, it's fantastic. We never before had a possibility to learn so much so fast and so easy. I support this initiative 100% and really admire the idea. But, you all American students, remember to give a chance to old manual methods sometimes - it's more time consuming, but it also develops some important skills.
I used to not have computers or printers and I had to print off my work at school and do it on paper at home and then come in early to put the answers into the computers at school. My school is now distributing chrome books to the whole school for free but not everyone has a WiFi Connection at home. I hope the chrome books come with data from a phone company.
That's not how Wi-Fi or Wireless networks work. The Chromebook has to come with 4G, not data about a phone company. They have to come with service for a Wireless provider, not a phone company.
To go to my school u pretty much NEED access to the internet. We’re on computers all day at school. We get home and check our homework on our computers. We check our timetables on our phones. We complete work on our computers. We send emails on our computers. My best friend doesn’t have internet. But yet, she’s still managing to finish everything. I have great respect for her.
Yeah, but depending on the school you cant bring a pc home. If you're talking about big computers than are you trying to say to finish homework at school? Many people would have after-school activities. Depending on the school, teacher and students, the task might not be an easy one... I'm not sure but.
Katie Trant most schools close by 4 or 5pm (an hour or so after the final class is over) and for students with after school activities they'd easily lose the small window
Mine has 3 iMacs but it’s only for printing stuff. Also sometimes the library could be closed unexpectedly (which happens often), the public library from my school is a ~20 min walk and either closed at 5pm or 8pm. School gets out at 1:50 but it’ll take you a while to pack up so you leave for the library @ 2pm, it’s 2:20 and you have hours of work to do. Unfortunately the library is only open till 5pm and you don’t get your work done. Plus your parents are busy and can’t give you a ride home.
Marina Borzova you probably lives in a good neighborhood. Some neighborhood have few or bad quality libraries with little resources, and if ur a kid with working parents they not be always able to drive you to a library and buses are not free. It's all piles up in a negative way for the poor.
They likely do have some sort of access, so students without home internet access can't argue that assignments requiring access are completely impossible to complete and therefore receive alternate assignments, but often teachers will go on to assign homework that is fully completed and submitted online or requires the use of computer based resources for hours at a time. Students who have to complete all of these tasks at libraries, which often have limited usage windows, are at a huge disadvantage to students who have unlimited access to these types of resources. With the growing ubiquity of internet access, the amount of grade school assignments relying on these resources has grown drastically in the past few years. The point of this video is to highlight how the assumptions many schools have formed about student internet access are incorrect and can greatly harm a student's ability to succeed.
I have DSL home internet service, I am limited to 1.2 Mbps download. My closest library is 12 miles away, I could upgrade to satellite based internet which goes out during heavy rain or snow, and most plans only allow 5 GB per month. above that they either throttle your speed down to what the old dialup speeds were or charge like $10 per GB over your allotment. And most families with kids can burn their monthly allotment in 1-3 days. Also be aware the latest windows 10 feature update was 2.56 GB so that alone is over half your monthly allotment.
Thank God libraries exist, we had a power outage at one point, but only on my street, the teacher wasn't gonna make exceptions, but my nearby library had tons of available computers
There is something called a library with computers, books, and librarians to help you find what you're looking for. Plus, the state of California and a few others give all students a chrome book. Sadly, the problem is that the people pay a tax to have these computers, and the amount is more than what is needed to cover the cost, the extra cash is pocketed by King Brown and his loyal subjects. This just shows how people react quickly without thinking first.
I left Californian high school last year. We were not 'given' Chromebooks. We were permitted to use them during school hours. We could not take them home, and libraries were not always a practical solution due to difficult walking terrain, etc. As for the king and his peasants...I'm with you there. Still CA has one of the poorest school systems in the U.S.
I live in California. I have never received a take-home Chromebook. They are used in class, and sometimes at lunch. My school library is also only open 1 hour after school, and the public library allows a member to use the computer for 1 hour per day. Luckily, I have internet access, but there are thousands that don't. You can keep trying to name solutions but it doesn't constitute a great impact if the solutions are not widely accessible.
+William Taylor That's what I meant, public school student use them in class and government charter school students are homeschooled so they are kept at home. Thanks for catching me there. Now I'm reacting without thinking first. :(
yeah it isn't right to pocket money but the tax is important because sure you could buy a computer for less but not everyone can afford one even at the original price, so the state taxes help them to get their education and improves the whole school.
But what if their neighborhood is dangerous and/or it's too cold, too far, or there just isn't a local library? I live in the middle of nowhere, and the nearest libraries are 6 and 8 miles away.
Getting internet is cheap. Phones and computers are insanely cheap. You can get a really really good phone for 100$ and a computer for 300$, internet is minimum 5-15$ a month, it is not expensive, everyone has access, maybe not everyone in the world, but not everyone in the world needs it anyway.
Produde24; I have several needles to pop your argument. "Getting internet is cheap." In Europe that statement is very true. For the most part. But this is America. So let me explain to you why that changes things a lot. If you do not live in more populated states, you have less access to good internet. Sometimes your only option is Satellite which can be as slow as dial-up and cost over 100$ a month with a limited Data-cap. (not to mention it is affected by weather) One long youtube video and there goes your internet for the month. Even in an area with more options and higher speeds, you still have to pay a lot. Where I live is a good example; I'm not out in the boonies by no means compared to a lot of Americans. It is a swift drive to a small town in about 10minutes. That being said, when I was younger, we had the worst internet imaginable. Being Urban has its down sides, if you ever talked to or been in the business of communications. There is a term called the "Urban effect" which is where since the lines for the net go for miles and miles connecting many people to the net in a echo back format. (meaning the line ends and does not re-enter another relay) The more people that get on, the worse your net will be. up until about 2 years ago our internet was still affected by this, to where sometimes are connection would be worse than dial-up. The price for that internet was 60$ a month. For most, well that is a week of groceries. Now fast forward to now, my net is way better and we get what we pay for because we lack the urban effect. A solid 24D 1.6U Though the reason why we do is because we are a large family.. and we split the 120$ Bill. And other families on our road, do not. we have are own separate line for net because it required Fiber, but since other families do not use Fiber, they are still on the same wire. So we get less of a urban effect because not many people can afford that much a month for internet. "internet is minimum 5-15$" You must be from one of the European union countries correct? Or perhaps silicon valley..? in European Countries yes this is the case for the most part. 15$ in places like. Estonia. Gets you a nice never fluctuating 100D 100U (Which is better than 90% of American internet.) Pay 60$; you get a 1G D and 1G U So yeah, in places like that sure. But this video was more for Americans. which a quick google search would remedy; (also the main point of the video lol) That the average cost for internet in the U.S is A whopping, 60$! Far from 5-15$ that you proposed. (Fun-Fact: globally including only developed countries the average is 104$) Not to mention you also want cell phone net. Most phone companies and sellers will not allow you to have a internet/wi-fi capable phone without purchasing Cellular internet; this can be curved by using a paid-per-use and just never using the data. But in some places you cannot buy such plans.. All this ONLY for 1GB of data, on most carriers that averages around 60$ as well. So for phone and computer you looking at 120$ monthly. Anyway, that is all! I hope this helps you understand others struggles in our country here.
Yes well I do understand, and I did over exaggerate the cost of internet. I live in Canda, our prices are much lower than the US, you are correct that they are drastically different. I do feel sorry for the people in rural town's that don't have access to good and affordable internet. In Canada there are many small towns with incredible fibre-optic cables with high speed capabilities, a town in Alberta has 1 gygabite per second internet or 1000MBPS. As we move into the future, the small towns you talk about will hopefully receive networks that do not disadvantage them. However, I am sure that if they work as a town together they would be able to convince companies to come and give great internet opportunities to the town. Hopefully it gets better for the US, I was mostly unware of these seemingly widespread issues as I have never encountered them.
MischievousMoo this was uploaded during the FCC internet issue, and its still a hot debate. the education system is run by the government, and for less-wealthy families, some rely on government-help access to internet. others dont even have access, period. this video is a little too late. theres so many kids with the potential to do great things, but now its becoming much harder to allow them to use the tools.
This video brought up so many memories that it really did break my heart to hear the statistics. Short story since it reminded me of this: When I was younger I had to do a project for some underwater creature that I never heard of but I didn’t have any access to the internet or to a printer. I told my teacher the next day and she got really mad at me because she thought I was lying. I was 7 or 8 at the time. I remember crying and saying I wasn’t lying. It’s honestly so horrible. Right now I’m a high school student who doesn’t have a perfectly working printer and has an outdated laptop but I’m grateful for what I have, because at least I can do assignments here and there online.
I save a little bit of money to purchase a second computer 🖥 for my son ,and get the cheapest internet I could get due to budget #single mom.#there is always a way ,if you want to do the best for your kids to succeed 😀.
And my mum says I used the computer too much and I’m probably cheating...but all my assignment requires journals and the internet.
Hiba Ada I feel you
Lol I cheat on the internet anyway :3
Siri Dronavalli that’s not really something to be proud of.
I so agree
PEPPER !
I know but still lol
Mediator: "what does the acronym LCD stand for?"
*starts flipping through history textbook*
blake wilson why did they go right to using the computer or reference books?
well a computer provides access to infinite information. have you never heard of google? as for the history textbook, it only helps if the question is about history, which is why i thought it was funny that they were looking for a technology answer in there
Lol I could've sworn it meant lowest common denominator so they shoulve looked in the math book
true thats another possibility
I thought LCD meant lowest common denominator lol i guess not
This was powerful, I didn’t know it was that big of problem in the US
BelleBean dude they can just stay at school longer and use their computers OR go to their local public library
The No Life Gamer - you're assuming the school has high speed internet or if they do, that all of the computers in the school access it. What a privileged life you lead....
Also, you're making a lot of presumptions about their access to transportation.
Well legal teachers cannot discriminate students based on income levels, plus internet literally costs 1 dollar a day, also i'm pretty sure that the problem is the opposite.
Nevermind i just cried.
No. It's not a problem at all. And having internet at home has NO bearing how well a kid does in school. Absolutely NONE.
I don’t have wifi at my mobile home so I have to go to my neighbors house everyday to complete big projects and homework that always require wifi and I take ap classes and I’m still in high school, it’s the biggest struggle. They want us to succeed but don’t give all of us the same advantages
so how are you typing this comment lol
I got through high school without internet... so...
how are you watching this video smart one?
She JUST said she has goes to her neighbors'.
why would she go to her neighbors house to watch youtube? Most people don't like people in their house just to watch youtube
What people should question is why many educators tell kids to memorize trivial information that is all recorded in the internet anyway. Yes, you need to remember some general facts to understand life, but the focus education should be to strengthen one's ability to think critically. Technology has clearly exceeded human mind's capacity to record information, but the real question is whether AI can solve real life problems the same way humans do. High school kids should be learning philosophy instead of memorizing dates.
It also trains you in actually remembering stuff in further education. You can't use the internet for each and every tiny bit of information in your study.
I agree 100%
lalakuma9 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Nah I'm sorry but memorizing is essential to learn, understand and be able to create hypothesis about anything, it's simply necessary
lalakuma9 we... we did learn philosophy. Your precious rant there is conceptually how my social 10, 20, and 30 textbooks started. Every year we had to learn the opinions of some dead people and then write essays on “to what extent do you agree with the above quote”
This video is so depressing. I'm really shocked! This is how you know that you're blessed.
5 million kids equated to about 1% of the population in the united states and they have other ways of solving this problem like going to the library or studying with a friend
chombo Umm... You can use the library, but I'm going to keep using my phone and computer 😂
1) It doesn't mean you're blessed, it just means you're family has something that some other families don't...
2) This video proves you wrong, chombo, because it showed that you can't get as much information as fast if you use books instead of the internet. One team for an encyclopedia which was shown here to not help as much, since you need to find the right book, search for the right page, and that takes a lot of time...
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Yes, the internet makes things much easier, but it doesn't make or break the situation. I think that students without internet can do just as good as students who have it, but it just takes more effort. What I meant by going to the library (either one in the school or out) wasn't to read books but use their computers... should've worded it better.
This would be a much different study if it gave the other group low speed internet
Howto they'd have to give them school internet then
But they’d have to put a router on their table, because school Wi-Fi has a range of 6 inches. Also, to make it more realistic, they should put up signal-proof barriers to prevent them from using a cellular hotspot on their phone.
Internet neutrality is also a problem
Jonny 92 WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH HAVING COMPUTERS IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD.
Tori R I'm just saying that it's a problem. Jeshhh
I once told my teacher I couldn't complete a task because I didn't have access to the internet. She laughed at me and called me dumb, saying: "Websites are free for everyone, stop making up excuses."
Lypse wow that happened?
Yeah, it was in my second or third year of high school xD We had to watch some video's online and I guess she thought I meant I didn't have access to RUclips specifically. So I ended up going to the library after school to watch it on the computers over there. It's sad but teachers are often not very understanding about these kinds of things. That one was the worst but I also had reactions like: 'Well ask a friend of yours to watch it at their computer' or 'ask Santa for fast internet'.
Lypse That's pretty bad
Lypse Honestly, honestly, goddamn your teacher.
Yeah... I have had a ton of good and inspiring teachers and I'm studying to become one as well. Yet I stand with my point that teachers are also largely responsible for children not wanting to go to schools.
Some people in the comments are missing the larger picture. Kids that don’t have proper access to the internet will struggle two times more just to do the same work. It’s a matter of equal opportunity to succeed.
no-one has equal opportunity. boo hoo. talk to kids with alcoholic parents or learning disabilities or who have to work full time and complete assignments. cry me another one.
theAbeElement How insensitive can you be? Just because some other kids have to deal with some awful things doesn't mean these kids aren't suffering.
Nivi because all these kids are a bunch of Jews
So what do you propose? Hand everyone a decent computer and give them all free high speed internet? Get the out of here with that bull. Life is tough. Life is not fair. And it's unforgiving. There is many ways to get access. Go to the library. Use the school computer. Go to a community center. Use your damn phone if you have to and instead of IG, snapping and Facebook. All I hear and see from this ad is a bunch ungrateful lazy people who wants internet to be handed to them.
Get we need to go back to books internet is horrible for your mind
This also brings to surface the issues with competitive learning; it damages the ability for students to reach out and get help form others
Just Josh EXACTLY
Just Josh Absolutely!
Yeah. You could see the defeat in their eyes, much like how i feel at school everyday.
Maria B then reach out to a classmate to tutor you, go to your local library, or stay after class and ask your teacher for help. Having internet access isn't the only thing. Most public libraries even have computers you can use.
"what does LCD stand for"
me: duh lowest common denominator why tf are they searching
thanks for the likes lol
Sharja Jihan ineedhelp Same but the answer was different
yeah lmao
Me
I think they meant the drug LCD
WHOAMISUPPOSEDTOBE?? That's LSD
Why didn’t the kids use the index?
Searching in the index and then looking for the page still takes longer than typing in the information.
BloodTypeAPlus that’s if you don’t use books daily. Besides the internet has its own problems as well:
1) no internet, no answers
2) you still have to find the correct website with the information.
Children of this generation aren’t taught how to use books properly, everything is found with computers
mirelly miranda alright I know you struggle to understand basic things, so I will dumb it down for you. Typing a question into a computer will always be faster than looking in an encyclopedia.
seriously I cant tell if you're being sarcastic, of course we know how to use books. parents of this generation just don't know how to use computers properly so they don't know how stupid it is to sit there and look for ten minutes when you can type a question in five seconds
Granting more kids internet access is great (go for it), but the real answer to this problem is for every teacher to be mindful of every assignment they give. If a teacher is giving an assignment that requires internet access then they need to go back to the drawing board and retool the assignment for those that don't have it.
That said, a child and their parents should speak up whenever this happens...as well as consider using public facilities, but even that can be an issue for some families, logistically, given closing times and work schedules.
Bottom line, teachers, be considerate of the resources available to all of your students. Don't assume.
ChrisJ Fox yeah, and maybe schools should have more access to things like computers in library's, used for assignments and stuff, not just in computer lessons (if the school does have). And if you want to give an assignment, I think the internet shouldn't be needed for it. Not everyone has a computer or a phone or even internet!
Yes yes YES! My school is very mindful of this and they are sure to give all kids opportunities to complete things on paper or allowing them extra time in study hall to get things done if they don't have internet. It KILLS ME that not all kids have this opportunity. My schools makes it mandatory that if a parent can write a note saying their child did not have internet access, the teachers have to give them more time and access to school library to finish it. More schools need to do this it makes life so much easier for so many kids!!
ChrisJ Fox Here, in Denmark, it is VERY rare for a student to not have a computer and internet (and in most cases it is only temporarily, such as the computer breaks etc.)
In the obligatory school (first ten years) the school doesn't give homework, that must be done on a computer. All work on computer is done in school-time on school computers (though, They Are so crappy that some of the older students might bring their own) In a few cases a student borrows a computer from the school (mostly kids with learning disabilities like dyslexia, since There's plenty of online ressources for it)
If applying for gymnasium, students must bring their own computer, but the school has free internet to use. Mine was open until 16.30 with classes ending at 15.15 latest. Most of the time You had earlier free from class or a free period in the middle. I'd get most of my homework done at school, since we could help each other and I had to wait a long time for the bus anyway (the joy of Living in the countryside)
It doesn't *have to* require the internet for the internet to make it easier, which gives them the advantage.
I never used to have internet access at home and my teachers would set homework that I would need the internet for. I would always tell them that I do not have internet access at home, they would then say that I should stay after school and use the school computers to complete the homework. It was so difficult to do this because I had to go home for other reasons. when it is pretty much sunset when I am walking home normally, how am I supposed to stay behind for an extra hour and then walk the half hour journey on my own in the dark?
I'm only shocked by the bad acting.
It's so cringe worthy.
Why is most people saying go to the library in the comments it’s not that easy In my school the library is open at lunch and after school so you can go there but if you think about it if other children are having fun during there lunch and you had to stay in at lunch to do this homework because you don’t have internet/tech at home it would not be fair at all this is disgusting it isolates you in a bad way
Raven Abbate you said yourself that you can go after school
First of all replace is with are and there with their. Second of all punctuate. Third of all missing out on fun at lunch isn't as important as the homework. And public library's can loan you laptops to borrow so all you need is the schools Internet or maybe a Starbucks or bookstore. There are way kids just have to be creative to get it done. This video is dishonest and don't these kids have cell phones that do the same shut as there computer would do. Honestly engine who falls for this is too gullible
Community library
There are a lot of judgmental people in the comment section who are either better off (it’s always harder for those types to place themselves in others shoes because everything’s within arm’s reach) or have forgotten what it’s like to be a child/teen who’s poor, having to struggle to get by each day because you can’t legally work and know of no one with a car.
I have a stable internet connection at home yet I always go to the library during lunch shut up y'all
There are far too many dogs inside American homes. I can say this for certain because 75% of students are unable to complete their homework because their dog ate it.
lepsychopatthe MY DOG ALWAYS EATS MY HW!!!
lepsychopatthe There can never be too many doggos
Let’s hope we get to keep net neutrality..
That has nothing to do with this. I don't think you understand net neutrality. A cursory Google search should be of use.
varun009 No but it can relate. If net neutrality gets revoked then schools will be charged extra for websites and resources.
If net neutrality is removed, then internet service providers will be given the ability to act like the mafia and demand bribes from websites just to keep their bandwidth the same. In other words, only corporate sites will be able to afford it and they'll take over the internet.
No
and no
Throughout all the education I've received there's always been books covering the entire subject. If the teachers set homework of which the book can't answer then it's the teachers not doing his/her job properly. I reckon books should be encouraged since it lessens the amount of distractions the students can encounter whilst studying. The internet is also full of lies and incorrect facts in comparison to books which don't have any of those risks. Certainly for early education books are also a lot cheaper than buying a PC/laptop + the monthly cost of your broadband contract and in most cases I'd imagine the teachers would allow students to borrow the school's books thereby reducing the costs to nil. The video also mentions that "5 million households don't have access to high speed internet connection". I don't understand why this is included since the household still has internet connection, it might not be "high speed" but I know that loading fact sites off google search doesn't require high bandwidth or high internet speed so slow internet shouldn't be a problem. The education system is fucked up but don't blame it on the internet.
Books can be wrong too. Often they're outdated. Sure the internet often spouts gibberish but you just need to have the skill to know when it is doing that and check your facts. Also, should what you learn be limited by whats in the books?
/\aron but there's also homework where you have to watch a video online
/\aron ok what you don’t get is that now days they are assigning quizzes online aswell as daily tasks
Books are crazy expensive, you could buy a chrome book and buy a years worth of decent internet for the price of three books.
One class in high school had me use 5 books throughout the year.
Here’s a laptop that’s cheaper than even one of those books
www.bestbuy.com/site/acer-15-6-chromebook-intel-celeron-4gb-memory-16gb-emmc-flash-memory-granite-gray/6170703.p?skuId=6170703&cmp=RMX&extStoreId=394&ref=212&loc=1&gclid=CPjLxamx3doCFWOJxQIdGWMOTQ&gclsrc=ds
History textbooks are biased
MAKE THIS VIRAL
No, it's really not that accurate
This is already a well known statistic. Making the video viral does nothing. Sorry. This is already well known and nothing! No one!!! Does anything about it....they don’t do anything about it at all!!!! Because they don’t care. That’s our government. They will never care about education or poor people. I promise. Bring attention to it is great but it is also so so so pointless. Nothing will change.
It is an accurate statistic. I promise. However this is acted out.
But the poor kids wont see it... So you failed... They legs broke AF can't walk dem sagged denim down to the library. Praise kek fool!
To many of these obvious videos go viral just over people trying to push emotions. It's especially obvious just by taking a look at the way they simply present the video.
BOY I WISH ACTUAL ACADEMIC TEAM QUESTIONS WERE THIS EASY
The competition's questions were supposed to go from easy to hard.
SO DIS MOTHERFUCKIN THIS WAS A GODDAMN AD!!??!?!??!!!?!?! *Mom cries because some kids don't have high speed internet*
Chicken Clips It wasn't an ad. It was a video to spread awareness about this topic and encourage people to visit their website to learn more about it and help
PinkVampire21 it's a video on how more kids should have wifi sponsored by Sprint. It's an ad
CoalDiamond- TheMagicRogue I apologize if I made you upset. Tbh I made that comment when I was high
PinkVampire21 you don't need to apologise
PinkVampier you get very smart and deep when you're high. Me on pot brownies i woke up to find a pizza stuck to the wall
I agree 100% no more homework
Xander uh...
Some schools do this and only grade students on quizzes and tests. It’s actually really efficient and helps more of people’s grades.
well I'd be screwed. I am so bad at tests, no matter how hard I study i always forget how to do even simple things
Xander my teachers give homework, then don't even grade it. They just collect it and throw it away, saying that they just wanted to see if we'd do it
Definitely open my eyes to the many disadvantages that other people face but on the other hand, I do know the difficulty that they go through and I've experienced it myself but I sometimes take them for granted! This was a 'wake up' call to enjoy things, share with other, and stay grateful!
-Sara (from SaraandErsh❈✨)
Sara And Ersh yeah but the video is out of context first of all their is no proof of these cliams and even where they are coming from. The whole video was sonspored by sprint a internet accesse company as shown in the description honestly I think the video is highly misleading
Exactly
I do understand why you find the video misleading, but I personally was speaking about the lessons that people can take away from the video due to some personal experiences.
why shouldn't they have internet access? imagine trying to do homework these days without it. its possible but a lot harder. the facts may be a bit biased in this video but the point still stands that the internet is very important to have these days
みさきめい having internet at school isn't a handout it should be a given if the homework is required online. How are you supposed to do something that requires the internet but you don't have it but not to say literally every school has internet now so this is not a problem but its not a handout
My heart has been ripped apart. I am truly broken and this video has opened my eyes. I horrified.... I am weeping.... I am hurt.... I AM SARCASM
Immersive Comics education is important. Lots of my homework recquires access to the internet. Telling kids to work hard and they'll get far in life when some are at a massive disadvantage from the start
Utter Otter CHOICE Only poor structured classes assign homework that requires access to the internet. Good teachers make sure you understand the material and assign work that was previously discussed in class or that is in the book. If a student can simply look up the answer and write it down then they do not learn.
In mathematics, there are several websites and applications which can solve problems without the students putting in effort. I think we would both agree that the student who took the time to write down the problem and struggled through it will generally do better in the test than the student who looked up the answer. If anything, the real problem are poor curriculum and lazy teachers.
Internet access is very important for learning, but not for school homework. This video is just another mild thing that people want to be outraged about. People love being outraged.
Thought this was a PSA for net neutrality. we will be at the same disadvantage if net neutrality is taken away
Branson H. +
surprised there are not more Net neutrality comments.
Tbh, I don't see it really affecting being able to google things.
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Not true, net neutrality is something that as you said, will affect a majority of people. If it gets taken away then teachers will most likely not assign assignments that they themself will be marking or looking for plagiarism. If net neutrality is taken away then marking gets harder for teachers that have to pay bills too. And school funding might not be able to cover them.
I spent all of my junior and senior year at the public library. I live in a smaller town so buses stopped at 6pm. I would have to either hope I got my work done on time or walk the 3 miles back home (on a highway) or 5 miles if I walk around (off the highway). It was a struggle but I graduated
For Jin good for you. I wish you the best for your future. You deserve great things for the hard work you put in.
my town doesn’t even have public buses.
Good for you. Not everyone can do that unfortunately:/
I wish the video looked less scripted
I agree. This happens a lot in our school. And when my mom took away the internet from me for a year my grades dropped severely and I was about to pick it back up with the help of friends. If they weren't there idk what I'd do. This is also something those in Congress need to think about before passing the anti-net neutrality bill.
net neutrality harly affect that dumbass
Damn what you do to get internet taken away for a WHOLE YEAR?! I have restricted my kids internet access to just EDUCATIONAL purposes for their schoolwork, but never entirely because that would be dumb since their schoolwork requires internet. I care about my childrens' grades.
mrs. powda you sound like a great parent
Privilege is real.
Nicole St. Louis *** privilege
checked
Dorothy Duh ty
All these diverse cities having better internet then that of white rural areas is clearly migrant privilege. They need to check themselves and give whitey a hand
IdioticProgramming if inner city kids have good net it is because the white collar ants working in the city need it. But so what about internet if you dont have a pc or tablet to access it. I don't understand what you mean.
Seeing this brings back memories of mine, the struggles I've been through.
My teachers would always give us assignments involving the internet, we had to research print it and everything...
They didn't know I don't have wifi and printer . I would have to depend on this smart broadband which doesn't give a strong signal, which causes me to sleep late and all that.
The teachers would get mad at me for passing my requirements late and I would receive lower grades.They just didn't know that I have a situation.
Blackpink Saranghae teachers can be rather understanding.
Why did you not just tell them your situation?
at my school, you have to fill out a door mat says whether you have access to this kind of technology, and if you don’t, they will help with that. why couldn’t you have just told your teacher so they could do something about it instead of just having to get bad grades and turn in assignments late?
Welcome to the Forehead soo.. Friend's house, library, tell them? School computers... Stop complaining.
Wow I've actually never realized that so many people had trouble completing homework because of a lack of high speed internet connection. Here in the Silicon Valley, we all just take it for granted. If this is a serious issue, it should definitely be addressed.
Helen Long oh yes high speed internet is such a requirement, I have like less than a mb of download at my house and I still do all my homework, this is a weak ass excuse and another way of people sheltering behind charity
Some courses it's fine, other courses the teacher requires you to do so many things electronically. I could never afford Office until recently so a major annoyance is trying to open .docx or .doc assignments that won't open on my computer. (So I had to convert the file format on the school computer during lunch break and put it on a usb so I could work on it at home without internet) In some cases it's not money related at all too. Like, I live in a pretty rural area and no internet service provider has agreed to cover my family's house. We only get internet from a router tower i built on the garage that gets it from our nearest neighbour. Any bad weather and it gets shut right off. And its not just that, often the school sends time sensitive information over the internet. Which means not having it for a bit can screw things up. I'm lucky because my friends text me if something like school being cancelled that day happens.
you can always install windows into your computer or laptop, its what i did, and with that you should be able to open most documents. If you haven't looked for a way to fix the problem, then don't complain, and if he can txt you about time sensitive information, i really don't see what your problem is. i had to walk 20 blocks if i wanted to go to the public library, don't complain because other people have it easier just work harder.
When you finally get a job you'll be able to support a family, that won't have it as harsh as you.
leednata120, I use this chrome extension and it helps greatly, just drag a microsoft office file into chome, and it'll convert it into a google docs, or slide, or sheets and whatnot.
chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/office-editing-for-docs-s/gbkeegbaiigmenfmjfclcdgdpimamgkj
I have windows on my computer, I have wasted hours trying to solve this problem. I live in the country with no library access unless I get a ride 40mins by car to the nearest city. The town where my school is doesn't have a library. My bus leaves right after school and takes more than an hour to get home, so unless I can find a ride I can't stay to use the school library (which closes half an hour after school ends anyways). Basically if my home internet blows the night an assignment is due, I'm screwed.
I'm not trying to complain just for the sake of complaining. I mean, obviously I've been handling it. However, I think it's irresponsible not to speak out about an ever increasing inequality in education. It's not for my sake that I want to see this change, I'll have graduated and be long gone. I'm really lucky that in the early grades this was never an issue for me, but nowadays younger and younger kids are ramming into this wall. If a 2nd grader can't complete their homework due to lack of technology they'll be frustrated and possibly give up trying. It is a problem many in rural areas deal with, especially since the curriculum itself these days expects you to have unfettered access to the internet. A lot of the kids at my school deal with some form of this problem and I think it's one of the reasons so few of them leave after graduation to pursue higher education.
Or you can just stop assigning homework in total.
UniLuk I like how you think
Finland and Denmark assign very little homework (and often none at all), and their students academically surpass North America and many other countries who give large amounts of homework.
But how would you reinforce the material you learn? In our current education system without homework, kids, especially in high school, would fail tests and quizzes without homework because they would be completely unmotivated to study or practice. The idea of no homework sounds nice, but wouldn’t help us advance in education.
microjas10 studying is on your own time and it's your responsibility to do, but homework is pointless there's been studies to prove it
microjas10 There are studies in many developed countries proving that countries with no/little homework have much better test scores than countries with homework, especially with large amounts.
Or we could change the School System o that we don't assign homework like they do in Finland and many other countries with successful educational systems.
You got that right!! Take away that stupid internet and kids are worthless
My school doesn't accept people without internet access.
HavingFunTimes lol just don't educate poor people nice
just a girl From my experience the working class have no interest in academia or wider education. They are more concerned with 'Soccer Teams' and 'Pulling girls' than success.
Joseph H Please tell me you're not serious with that attitude.
Joseph H I just think it's funny, like if we don't provide education for the poor, there will always be a class divide and wealth divide, and the poor will never be able to get out of poverty. Do you really want to live in such an old fashioned society? Or do you want to push the boundaries and live in the best society possible? Also, please don't stereotype the poor, and don't use those stereotypes to justify not educating them.
just a girl It is my view that not all humans are compatible and different ''''groups'''' are better off separate. I think you know what I'm referring to.
This is very over dramatic.
overdramatic.*
Those are probably real reactions, not overdramatic.
MischievousMoo even if they are real reactions doesn't mean that they can't be overdramatic. i mean that mom crying at the end.....
I know right like why are they acting like they don't have a public library around
Melissa Aguilera they might not live near a public library??
There are actually a lot of places where people don't have a library near them, and there are kids who live in conditions where even if there is one, they can't go. Maybe the only way is to drive, and they have no way to get there or a person to take them. Maybe they live in a neighborhood prone to violence and danger, so their parents wouldn't want to risk them going out for the sake of an assignment. It's not that simple
I remember when I was in grade seven, and my teacher said one of the requirements for her class was a laptop and of course internet. I didn't have a laptop, and there were times where I've went months without it. I would get detention for handing in written essays. Teachers need to realize that just because the majority has access to something, doesn't mean everybody does...
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Not like the FCC cares
Brutal.
You do understand that the removal of net neutrality has no effect on access to the internet, right? Students don't have internet due to the availability of internet and the costs.
Droppin Tech but it does effect access to websites that use the internet. Keep in mind that the internet is useless if you can't use the websites. All you might have that is useful without the internet is a calculator, a notebook, and games that you can download from a cd. I could save hundreds of dollars if I just bought a calculator and a notebook from the store.
That’s not what the FCC wants at all
>I Showed him my d**, Having to pay even more is bad for, say, new startup companies, or other companies that can't afford to pay extra to be available on the internet. Some sites maybe don't generate much profit and having to pay even more would impact them badly in the long run.
As a public school teacher in rural North Carolina, I totally get this. Luckily, my school has fast internet and each kid is one-to-one on a MacBook Air, but half of my kids don't have internet at home. We have Spectrum here and that's it. It's expensive and not very fast, and on top of that, I live in town and that's my situation. In the middle of nowhere where my kids live, there is no library, there is no internet connection. Their parents work double shifts to put food on the table, much less have the time to drive the half an hour to our county library... I try my best to help them with the internet access at school by trying to not assign homework that requires internet but it's hard. If everyone of my kids had access, we could be doing so much more, like flipped classrooms. And now with the possibility of losing net neutrality... Not sure what the future holds.
Elendil Anduril +
This is how it is in rural middle America too. No public transit, no real "parental assistance" due to working and all well paying jobs being an hour or more away. We do have a local public library, but you have to pay monthly if you're going there to use wifi/computers and said library is the only place where we have a 'coffee shop' in town. We're also not allowed on school grounds after hours unless with a specific after school group so even using resources at/from school is a no go. To further add salt to the wound they took away our 4 period blocking and doubled it to 8, this doubled the homework load while reducing actual class hours while learning/working/ect. Like having to do back flips to get some things done wasn't bad enough, at an age where you actually have very little control over anything including yourself, but now I'm having to go home and 'school myself' (homework) basically until I go to bed.
What subject do you teach that "requires" internet access? I taught for a bit, and I never had a problem keeping the lesson plan well within the resources I (and my students) had available.
TisiphonesShadow I teach language arts, which normally, yes, I could teach out of the textbook, but... We don't have any textbooks at school. The ones we do have are almost 15 years old and out of date with our new curriculum. I'm fairly young and the expectations for new teachers, especially in college, is to incorporate as much technology as possible. When I first came to school 5 years ago, we had ONE computer cart with "bricks" that were supposedly would work but wouldn't connect to the internet, which was meant to facilitate over 600 students in my middle school. So, I had all these plans and ideas from college I couldn't use because of poor access to the internet or technology... This is a very common issue in modern education, especially for inner city or rural areas. I do teach novels (which I have to borrow from other places) but just reading and answer comprehension questions just isn't enough.
isn't it cheaper to buy a book than a macbook? I don't understand. Book fees n HS are 10x cheaper than cost of uni textbooks. And where do you find full books online? You mean like kindle app-type e-books? And whatever happened to printed handouts/worksheets?
keep in mind, they said "high-speed internet", they didn't say they didn't have any access to any form of the internet. Dial-up is still around, and everyone has access to that unless these people don't have phone lines.
There are plenty of rural areas that don't have signal for internet or satellite. I'm being really hard on this, but there are options. The ones without friends, cell phones, or internet that have to ride a bus and live too far to walk to a library and have no one to drive them are the ones that really need help. I'm just thinking it would be easier to change the way homework has to be completed or for the class to go to the computer lab for research during that class period.
they have phones, which can be used for dial up internet
do you have a phone that uses a phone line at your home?
1) dial-up means not getting information fast enough, like it could take hours vs seconds, and by then your homework time is up
2) dial-up means needing a modem and if you've noticed it's actually now hard to find a modem in a computer. I haven't found one in over a decade.
1) you're over exaggerating. yes it will take longer, but not hours. didn't for me when I was younger.
2) you can get a usb modem from Walmart, or the telephone company in rural areas can provide one
3) you clearly think assumptions are truth, you're not going to get very far in life with that lazy thinking
This never stopped me. I admit i barely get a good internet so i visit the library for the computers and still it's full of people literally playing. so i spend so many hours in the library hitting the books. i go pretty far to have my papers printed. I manage to finish college, there's always a way ain't gonna be pretty though. Moral lesson of the videos : DON'T GIVE ASSIGNMENTS
they gave the computer at the end when the competition finished
Team a didn't know the other team didn't have computers
This is what I used to go through and this is what my brother is going through. We don’t have internet and he doesn’t have a cell phone and he’s 17. This should be recognized. Not everyone is lucky enough to be in a stable home living in comfort.
why are the parents crying?? hahahaha
eufogia I don’t find anything funny about it. It’s so sad that kids are struggling because they don’t have access to anything. They could’ve gotten a better grade if they did. Even if they didn’t it would be so hard for them.. and they’re thankful that they do have access to the computers and everything, unlike kids who can’t afford anything. Sorry for my grammar I don’t speak English
デッドDeath
I mean there's sadder stuff.
Mountkosiosko I’m currently talking about this video. Not other things
デッドDeath lmao they're crying about slow internet. The whole campaign is flawed
Slimy Flesh eh
We'll all have to get used to this becoming even more of an issue with the loss of net neutrality.
Without net neutrality we will be fine lmao
You do realize we never even had Net Neutrality before 2015...
but but muh net neutralittttyyyyy
+Whizzer Yeah and stuff like skype and facetime were unable to be accessed for a period of time. Not the only violations though.
+Whizzer Before 2015, the Internet Industry isn't the size it is today. Back then, most people still only had 1 or 2 shared computers but now, living in a middle class home can give everybody their own individual laptop and phone. Monopolizing the internet wasn't a real goal of tech companies until the global boom in 2015/2016 as to which Net Neutrality was installed to protect our institutions.
Its funny that this channel doesn't discuss American net neutrality and the wealth gap. More comments should talk about this topic.
It's not funny, just unexpected. But this channel doesn't have to talk about the wealth gap and net neutrality to talk about other issues.
Why is the wealth gap relevant? I hope you understand IQ and the will to work hard is biological.
This is why the left keeps losing, can't fight the right because you're fighting yourself.
0:51 plus or minus 12
Wrong! you are thinking x^2=144. Taking the square root means to take the principle square root, which means the positive root.
AutogolazzoJr
Wrong.
Draw Y=X^2 on a graph and Y=144 on a graph and X=+Or-12 at the point of intersection.
Josh Dawson Yes, but that doesn't conclude that sqrt(144)=12. Sqrt is a function, and a function can only give one answer. Put sqrt(144) onto a graphing calculator, and I guarantee you it will never equal -12.
juvenile melody You're not wrong either but we say minus though negative works as well.
He meant ±.
math.stackexchange.com/questions/602773/what-is-the-square-root-of-144
What does the librarian say when you only read one page of the book?
Read more
I had a delayed reaction to this joke.
AHAHAHAHAHAHA. I clicked on "Read more"
Very good job there.
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It’s
*Read More*
Stop copying and pasting unoriginal comments. It doesn't even belong or is relevant to this video.
Lowest Common Denominator
*Fedora tipping intensifies*
Rapts mine too
Yeah, that’s what we’re taught it is
I always saw and heard least* common denominator.
Yeah, I also thought Lowest Common Denominator. The hell you been learning Xaviu5? "Most commonly referred to"... lmao.
I disagree.
The internet only helps you get your answer quicker. Just by googling it, the answers pop right up.
Books can also help you get your answer, but it’s slower, you need to look at the table of contents, flip pages,etc.
I don’t think not having internet is an excuse for not doing homework or not doing as good as others in school who do have internet.
Using online math calculators, putting your problem in the box and clicking “solve” doesn’t really help you learn how to simplify rational expression.
Books/textbooks show you how to solve it by giving examples and steps.
I didn’t have a phone, computer, or internet when I was a kid. I still had the best grades in class
Taehyung's tongue Jimin's hair I understand what your point, but many schools today use technology in a different way. Technology isn’t optional, it’s a necessity. Speaking from experience, almost all of my assignments have to be typed or turned in online through apps like google classroom and turn it in. If i didn’t have internet at home I would be screwed.
In my some of my own classes they don’t accept home work that is on paper and you have to turn it in online.
and I didn't either and the homework was adjusted, tailored, slowly put into place not to need computers. It's easy enough to make it so having no computer means you can't finish the assignment in time. They didn't even believe in 1990 that computers would BE a thing as a resource and trying to use online web sites as citation sources was rejected 100% in all my classes.
ness lmao if you didn’t have a computer to turn in assignments that were assigned to you, wouldn’t you tell your teacher that you couldnt afford one? Is not that hard, even if you can’t get one, library’s with Pc’s are available and asking your teacher for a printout is also available
Is just your educational system that sucks not you broadband.
Those of us with a classical education agree.
I agree and think this should be the top comment amongst everything else said on this video. This activity did provide "shocking" results but at the end of the day... none of these students are really learning anything. This is a test on speed moreso. You could spend 2 min looking online or 2 hours looking through a textbook but to achieve any score on the same homework with or without the same resources does not really say anything about what they have "learned" or accumulated (just their overall efficiency and "performance" bc that shows good workers)... Testing them on how fast they can regurgitate, that is simply it. Its sad how our education system is set up to begin with. Poor kids.
NamiBurger So you don't think those students who have to spend 2 hours looking for the same answer a student could get in 2 minutes could use that time doing something more productive like other coursework or reading a book? If they don't have the internet and instead have to rely on age old textbooks without updated information, are they not at a loss? If they were given a research paper to do, do the students with laptops and internet connection not have infinitely more resources than those with only textbooks? How are they expected to perform at the same standards? There are more uses to the internet than regurgitation of information, to think that is narrow-minded.
What do you mean by "your"? Are you referring to the people in this video, the people reading your comment, or Americans?
Also, broadband in the United States does suck.
Aphrodite *εννοείται* 😂
As a creator and civic innovation specialist working in STL on racial equity issues, I appreciate this video for how it illustrates such an important challenge in our work to ensure educational equity for communities. Thank you for creating this simulation. I will indeed share it with my team and the collective of organizations we are engaging. 🤘🏾🙏🏾
De Nichols What they don't remind you about is the fact that the students would have notes for every single one of these questions if the teacher was asking them.
Not always I had to write many many many papers with my old worn encyclopedias, and got points taken due to inaccurate facts. Hell in college I learned to quit taking notes all together in some classes because most the time anything discussed in class actually wasn't what we were being tested on but rather the book chapters, then I had other classes that were the total opposite where the book wasn't used at all but it was only your notes. Then there is the fact that with internet and a computer of some type you can email your teachers and ask for help (privately) and that's where most parent/teacher talks take place; which is what's expected of you to do now days. Dispute it as much as you like but the fact is computers and internet are so infused into our daily lives you're at a HUGE disadvantage without either. Example: I put off getting a smart phone until a couple months ago when I realized that I can't even save a dollar without a stores coupon app because not only was it the only way they even offered coupons anymore but also because for some reason anything more than a swipe or scan gets you ridiculed and shoved around . . . by adults. Want a better job? Even McDonalds only takes online applications anymore where I am. "But but but LIBRARY" This place charges monthly in most areas now apparently. I paid nearly $300 a month to have access to a PUBLIC library with internet and even then it's not open when I need it to be and I'm not guaranteed a computer when I'm there. Thankfully I was in college and had a job, but it would have been a lot easier to save the money up to get my own pc and internet access had I not had to shell out all that money to use a computer somewhere else.
xxletombeceluixx These aren't even high school level questions
This is also a video on youtube . . . while their presentation is probably a planned thing it does not negate the fact that there is truth to it. Also it's a truth that since the No Child Left Behind act some places will knowingly pass a student that can't read and can barely write their name since passing is funding. First you were on about taking notes and since someone said it's not always taking notes now you want to say the questions were too easy. Seems like you're deliberately trying to avoid the actual issue here which is: Having access to a computer/internet when you need it is a HUGE issue when so many forms of education and life now depend on it. Children in school should not be dis-serviced or made to work harder because they come from a family that cannot afford ____, because their single parent works too many hours, or because you have access to what they don't so it's not an issue for you. Same goes for those trying to make it in life and get by I had gotten plenty of jobs when I was younger via 'help wanted' adds and signs no so much the case anymore. Even for a basic job you need the internet a way to access it frequently since they'll most likely also be responding via email.
Access is a challenge, but less so than a dearth of enriching educational experiences. Let's not pretend that this video addressed innovative education, when it simulates so much of the low-level questioning in schools that perpetuate inequity between schools.
In the hood , most of those areas have closed public libraries. Some schools dont have the access to some students that come from difficult circumstances. If you didnt grow up in the low income/ hood , it would be very difficult for anyone outside of it to understand. Kids aren't dumb , they've been given a bad start 😔
I don't mean to harsh but people crying over not having the internet seems so trivial and pathetic in comparison to people without clean water, food or electricity
Margot Madden The first world problems we face today are going to be global problems in the future if we don't learn to cope with them now. Universal internet is objectively less important than water or heat, yes, but it's still a problem that needs to be solved in order to give kids equal access to required information and maximize the quality and speed of their learning.
Is it possible that people without internet may also be without food and water and/or electricity? Lighten up bruh...too judgmental. Everybody has their set of problems.
Well they probably don’t have internet because they’re putting all they have into getting food water and etc but what you say is understandable
Roderick Sutton Pretty sure no one in the US has those problems.
+TheoOfSweden In the south extreme poverty comparable to what you would see in extremely poor countries is not that uncommon.
The numbers are obviously inflated because you do not need a high speed internet connection to do homework. You can get by with a 3G cell phone connection just fine.
I'm pretty sure that's more expensive.
Roescoe So you’re saying that a SLOW internet connection would cost more than a fast one. Nice
yep That's how the cell phone companies work. I mean the deal is they're using the cell phone towers to transmit what goes on a coaxial cable in the ground. That is to say the towers transmission bandwidth is much smaller.
Roescoe,then why is fast internet more expensive than slow internet on every single provider?
"fast internet more expensive than slow internet" lol I think you didn't mean that
It’s amazing how privileged we are, yet take it for granted. How other people in my class struggle and have to spend time after to school to turn in homework online, while I don’t even turn in my homework sometimes even when I have everything one click away.
I think that the event failed because the people who were given the textbooks assumed that all the answers would be inside of them. Even more so was that they were only two things; an encyclopedia and a history book. Now, some of these answers are also subjective. LCD can mean many things, such as Liquid Crystal Display, Least Common Denominator, etc. Some of these questions are also hilarious, despite that some of them are left out ("Who invented Morse code?"). Does information retrieval shorten based on having access to the internet? Yeah, duh. Are kids given devices connected to the internet for tests? No. Most if not all the material is based in the textbooks, and don't get me started on how those are selected.
"Who invented Morse code?"
Well, it'd be quite far from correct just to say 'Samuel Morse' and leave it at that.
Morse planned a code based on sending numbers, and a codebook for converting between numbers and words.
Alfred Vail expanded on the idea, making a code that could do letters directly.
And then it was changed a bit, for internationalization, in 1851 into the Morse code we have now.
@JNCressey Vail never called the code his own, and in fact attributed it to Morse. Therefore I don't see why he would be the original inventor, as usually inventors attribute their results to themselves.
Just that it'd be better to include all the contributions.
Of course! We can't let the precious contributors be lost to history!
Homework usually isn't this trivial.
Sara_Smiles Then the point is faulty.
okay, but the boy w/ the dreads is so fine.
isn't LCD lowest common denominator LOL
No, you have Lowest common multiple, and Highest Common Factor and just a Common denominator. Unless you have Lowest common denominators in the USA
yes you do
Panda Girl I never had lowest common denominator but I had least common multiple
Panda Girl They teach you in American schools to find the lowest common denominator because it makes simplifying fractions easier but at least in my experience stop in higher levels and just require a common denominator
It also means liquid crystal display. Just because an abbreviation means one thing doesn't mean it can't mean something else.
Please do something similar for adults doing resumes and applying for jobs and how it applies to those with $ and those without. Thank you for videos like this!
Yes, very good point!
100% this please!! Even McD's is apply online only, walmart has you do a 101+ questionnaire just to get into the application, and basically any place that actually has business is done online . . . or because you know someone; neither of which helps someone who is qualified, but poorer, and isolated.
The real question is:
"Why do we have school when we have the internet?"
Kwin I think you're underestimating people
Tlane Ixtlilto the real reason is something really simple; we don't know what we don't know.
Because you need qualifications to get to the next step in life. Like in England you need decent a level grades in order to even be considered by a university. What you learn at school isn't always applicable to your life, but you can put it on a CV
You're getting a bit of flack for this but your question is a good one. The style of learning in the US today is memory-heavy, and in the information age, that simply isn't viable anymore.
i found my passion through school not the internet
Wait, did we burn down all of the libraries with computers and internet in them?
They might not have access to the library. It could be far away.
Not all libraries have internet and even then your usage is timed and can only be extended so much furthermore if the computers are all taken up then your s.o.l
There is a lot of things that may not be avoided that way. There may be no open computers, not good internet, library too far away, etc.
Adele Mikutaviciute That's better than nothing.
Tae well yeah, it is. but that doesn't mean it's the best option
This video kind of misses the point, the point of learning is not to regurgitate data back after you look it up, but to internalize it and memorize it, i guarantee someone who had to spend the effort to look something up in a textbook would remember it longer than someone who just googled it on their lappy or phone.
LordSathar ah but no one cares about the knowledge, it’s all about the grades in this society.
Something to add, good luck doing a blackboard assignment, ( or any other online only homework server.) Without a computer. Unless you are able to print the asignment at school, your pretty screwed Believe me, i know. If you live in a remote area; It's next to impossible to obtain high speed internet service. Your options are ether satellite, or a 4g hotspot. Satellite internet will work at any home no matter how remote. However, satellite internet tends to be slow and suffers from reliability issues. Also, the service is expensive.
a 4g hotspot is ussually faster and more reliable than satellite internet. However, it only works if your within a limited coverage. The hotspot also has a small monthly allowance of data. If you get a blackboard assignment that requires watching a video, you will burn through the data quick.
I believe that the internet is a wonderful tool for anything including learning. However, there can be a lot of wrong or untrue information. There was a time before the internet that students actually had to use books to get the answers like myself and actually remember it. Retaining knowledge is a wonderful and good tool. Relying on the internet to learn can be harmful to the learning process and is lazy.
How is this shocking of course the internet is faster than reading a textbook
Did you miss the point of the video? The shocking part is that schools doesn't care if the students can afford internet-acess to complete the homework that the school forces them to do, which means that they will have it harder to succeed later in life.
Maybe ppl these days rely on tech for to much, a lil hard work only benefits you. You don’t need answers in 10 seconds you might need to do reading for research, wow what a concept to read a book.
Without the internet I would of failed pre calculus! Our textbook was online and we didn’t get any physical books. To count The many times I had to look up how to do something on Khan or RUclips to understand a lesson would be a lot.
I am sorry that your school handled the textbooks situation that way. If your textbooks are online but your don’t give your students access to it, then how will they learn. That kinda thinking is oxymoronic
Yoongi, yes I know that’s what they are saying, I was be sarcastic. We all know the internet is faster. I believe what the video is saying, is that without the internet students won’t be able to get a proper education compared to students who do I have the internet. I don’t believe it, although the internet is faster it doesn’t mean better. Making a student have to research and use time to do so help build patience and hard work. Just like all technology the internet is a good tool but it also has negative side effects
As insightful as this video is, the comments are even more so. I was initially astounded that 18 people gave the video a "thumbs down" but I see many comments that seem to defend elitism and deny that there are groups of people more privileged than others. Maybe you are someone who started with nothing and worked and worked until you reached success - does that really give you permission to expect everyone else in the world to do the same?
Bruce Lucier it's 153 dislikes now
Yes. If I expend effort to succeed, I should not have to allow others to freeload off of my work. I gave up sports and parties to study and learn. That allowed me a greater value in society based on my ability to contribute more. People who played sports, got drunk or high all the time, refused to control their baser instincts CHOSE to have less value to society. It isn't elitism, but rather survival of the fittest.
Before I moved to a western country, I grew up in a place where technology wasn't used by many (like for real, most people had keypad/flip phones. I was so surprised that so many kids had touchscreen phones when I moved, some high schoolers don't even have phones and most use keypad/flip phones like I said.) But homework wasn't a problem for me (except for big projects, I usually go to computer shops). So I was shocked at how much easier it is with the help of technology and how I even survived school without it before. I was also surprised at how uneducated and late I was with this so called "Internet", social media, trends, and basically anything that was happening around the world. What's sad is that I don't see any kids playing outside when I moved to a western country. Just shows how much technology change the society.
This is so heartbreaking obviously, and lots of times I've had to go without internet when I'm at my fathers but I think that a student should bring a parent in as it should be the teachers duty to understand what a child's home life and living standards are so they can compete fairly with other students.
That's how it works in my high school like when I was living pretty badly at my fathers I went to the teacher and explained he understood perfectly and said I could use his computer at lunch time or he would print of help sheets for me
So glad my teacher was like that school would have sucked otherwise
It's so heartbreaking to think of all the people who have huge anxieties over detentions like I did and scared of there student record and if they'd get into college it's sad. So sad
ok but what is the solution then? we live in an internet driven world and we can't slow down progress. Why point out a problem everyone knows exists but then not offer a possible solution? and what is up with those over the top fake crying reactions?
The solution is to extend internet to everyone, it's obvious. But it's hard to do the solution because greedy ISPs don't care about rural areas.
homework gap: prepare for trouble
distant learning: and make it double
Library?
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I'd like to see a library that can hold all the knowledge on the internet...
I have never been to a library with no computers for people to use, never.
Mountkosiosko, most libraries do. most libraries have computers that hold all the knowledge on the internet.
Exactly
But not everybody lives in walking distance of a library, and their parents may not have the time or money to take them (and honestly, you can't really make your parents drive you anywhere).
You don't need high speed internet for google to work, you just need internet. There's a bait and switch there. How many completely lack internet?
BooBaddyBig the point of the video is the disadvantage. You are still disadvantaged if your internet is much slower than everyone else’s
Look it up.
www.census.gov/history/pdf/2013computeruse.pdf According to the U.S. census bureau, 21-25.6% of America had no paid internet subscription in 2013. Thats 65-81 million people
Allie Hanichak
Actually, if you look at a more recent study:
www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2017/acs/acs-37.pdf
It shows that 94.8% of households with members under 18 had access to a computer and 85.1% with any internet subscription. This does not include the 4.2% of households who used internet without a subscription.
Keep in mind that this study is two years old, so the numbers are likely to have increased drastically, as they did in comparison to the 2013 study.
I don’t know where they are pulling these statistics from, and whether they are international or not, but if they are, shouldn’t they be using this money to fund for basic human needs? What’s the use of a computer much less the internet, if you have no where to live or nothing to eat?
I'm not fighting with any1 rip. just wanted to post link for interpretation. also they get the facts from their censuses in the USA lmao. and finally, man that last sentence, that wasn't the point of the video. the video was about equal education
I’m glad my high school asks students if they have working internet when the use of computers are necessary and either print out the needed articles or create a new assignment. I wasn’t aware other schools didn’t.
Honestly there are so many places that have free Wifi nowadays that I don't think this really matters. Having internet access should not be the problem. The problem is kids having access to computers. Any Public Library, McDonalds, Starbucks, and dozens of other locations give you access to wifi. However, there are very limited options when it comes to having access to computers. I think this video went about this in the completely wrong way. Even the ONE fact they used still states that those 5 million kids only have access to SLOW internet. I'm sure there are tens of millions of kids who have NO access to computers. That's really what major problem is.
Having no internet access is actually a major problem. There are more people without internet access, 1/5 of the population, than people that can't afford computers. The problem usually isn't affordability, it's availability. But I agree with you that the 50% statistic is absurd.
Wow I’m on my school’s academic challenge team and we have matches in the lunch room not on a stage wtf
You realize this is acting right? It is not an actual academic challenge team.
Todomo you have a lunch room? What is that?
Jayden Bell A cafeteria
Keveneven oh
he is not a nerd he is smarter then you
I see this happen at my own school all the time, they worthier have to get there extra early or stay after school once a week for 2 hours maximum but if they ride the bus or if it’s a project requiring more than 2 hours a week they definitely are left at a disadvantage that teachers push aside.
Some of these questions are way too easy
Yeah for a while, I was wondering where the video was going haha
ChrisJ Fox I love your profile picture.
They’re kids
Fluffy Unicorn i see u everywhere :)
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This also supports how important is net neutrality. A lot of schools have libraries with computer labs open to students, but without net neutrality even more students would be put at an disadvantage because they won’t be able to afford the internet. As of now 3/5 people decided to make the internet more expensive than it already is. Please look into this.
“The internet WILL destroy your mind”, yes, the thing that will expand my mind instead will destroy it. YES, great advice from parents who aren’t willing to adapt to changes.
Do these kids not even know how to use textbooks? There are these things such as the table of contents, glossary, and index which can help you find info faster than just flipping through pages. Crazy I know.
Actually, most institutions do not teach how to use those. It is up to the students to figure it out on their own.
chuuwoyomu I was taught it...also it's not that hard to learn
I'm not saying that it's hard to learn, but because it's not taught many don't ever bother to learn on their own how to use them. And while you may think it's not that hard, some people struggle with it.
I actually agree that it's not hard to use, and that people should know how to make use of them (electronic resources are not always available, if nothing else), but the reality of the situation remains that many don't. As computers become more prevalent, the usage of physical indexes, glossaries, dictionaries, etc. will continue to decrease, and knowledge of how to effectively use them will become less common.
its not that they don't know how to use it, its that even using those it is still much slower than searching it online.
fizpop01 it still takes longer then just searching it up on the internet
Tell your teachers! Go to the library!
1) I live in North Carolina and quite a few people I know don't even have access to libraries and the internet. There are not any near their house (where they could walk to) and they don't have a car they can use (parents use the one they have to go to work). Plus, public transportation sucks here and there are very few bus stops at all.
2) A lot of time, teachers will think that you are telling an excuse and will look at the situation the same way that you did. What if the kid does not have access to a library or even just go to the library that day? You never know and a lot of teachers don't trust students as much (especially in larger schools where teachers don't have as strong relationships with students). Believe me, I know firsthand how it feels.
Even if your teacher gives you an alternate assignment without the internet it'll still take much longer. You saw how much faster work on the computer was vs. work flipping through the textbook
I live in NC too and our education system ranks somewhere between 14 to 10th in the country. Why? Because we've implemented a lot of our money to involving technology in our schools. I don't know what rundown part you live in but all the schools in my county has a library with computers that you can use to stay after school and finish homework. Teachers also always ask at the beginning of the year if you have access to computers and if you don't they work with you or give you extra time. Plus most of the "projects"(as in neighborhoods) have community centers for students to access computers. Again I don't know if you live in some rundown village but in Charlotte the public transportation is far from bad.
Clorox Bleach Crystals true. But that's the whole point of the homework gap is that it is unfair and life is unfair.. but it shouldn't be. What if you had to take an extra half hour on EVERY project and an extra 10 minutes on EVERY homework assignment through school.. That's a hell a lot more time
I saw this in a commercial for a video I was going to watch and HAD to look it up to like it such a true message. wow.
Why just moms?
Single parents living off welfare obviously.
They have time. In middle class families, men usually work and women don't or have jobs that do not take a lot of their time. And probably the fathers probably wouldn't care about that.
Couldn’t they just go to a library or something?
What Alex Many kids take the bus and are stranded at home
My friend in many countries they don't just have a library... that's an American thing
Matt JP Calling a library an American thing. God how stupid are you. Nearly all countries have libraries you fool.
look-ie loo Have they ever heard of a bicycle or walking? How does taking the bus to school make you stranded at home. I rode my bike everywhere when I was a kid, my parents didn't drive me anywhere unless it was way too far away to ride.
Some schools are deep in the country where the library would be miles away and they may not have transportation. Thing is, not everything you may have access to, is accessible to others.
I definitely take for the granted that if i didn’t know the answer to something I could just type it in my phone and I would get the answer . It is so eye-opening !
Every parent , teacher and student must watch this
When the part with the computers started, I was sure that the point of the video will be something different. I thought about the problem of older people (for example family or teachers) being reluctant about students using the Internet for homework. Cause sometimes they are prejudiced, thinking that young people use computers only for playing games and "I need the computer for school" is just an excuse to play instead of doing homework. Or they treat it like cheating, when someone finds something ten times faster than the teacher. Or just just because they don't trust the internet (even the trusted parts) as much as they trust their books.
Seriously, I was absolutely convinced it's the subject of discussion here. But it only made me realize how different is learning in the US from learning in my country. Where I went to school, we had the opportunity to do homework on computers, but not all teachers allowed it. Plus, most teachers did not accept essays written on the computer - only handwritten. Now it seems bizarre and illogical, as printing work would save us a whole lot of time. But I also understand what was their purpose - currently many kids and teens can't write correctly and legibly and doesn't even know how to use books, for example, search for entries in the encyclopedia.
So, my main thought is: YES, use the internet, it's fantastic. We never before had a possibility to learn so much so fast and so easy. I support this initiative 100% and really admire the idea. But, you all American students, remember to give a chance to old manual methods sometimes - it's more time consuming, but it also develops some important skills.
I used to not have computers or printers and I had to print off my work at school and do it on paper at home and then come in early to put the answers into the computers at school. My school is now distributing chrome books to the whole school for free but not everyone has a WiFi Connection at home. I hope the chrome books come with data from a phone company.
That's not how Wi-Fi or Wireless networks work. The Chromebook has to come with 4G, not data about a phone company. They have to come with service for a Wireless provider, not a phone company.
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MischievousMoo You explained it well. You can't just slap on cellular data to a device that connects to the Internet; it requires a lot more to do so.
To go to my school u pretty much NEED access to the internet.
We’re on computers all day at school.
We get home and check our homework on our computers.
We check our timetables on our phones.
We complete work on our computers.
We send emails on our computers.
My best friend doesn’t have internet.
But yet, she’s still managing to finish everything.
I have great respect for her.
Tbh doesn’t your sch library have computers ?
Yeah, but depending on the school you cant bring a pc home. If you're talking about big computers than are you trying to say to finish homework at school? Many people would have after-school activities. Depending on the school, teacher and students, the task might not be an easy one... I'm not sure but.
Katie Trant most schools close by 4 or 5pm (an hour or so after the final class is over) and for students with after school activities they'd easily lose the small window
does your high school not have computers?
But not everybody can get a ride home after school.
Mine has 3 iMacs but it’s only for printing stuff. Also sometimes the library could be closed unexpectedly (which happens often), the public library from my school is a ~20 min walk and either closed at 5pm or 8pm.
School gets out at 1:50 but it’ll take you a while to pack up so you leave for the library @ 2pm, it’s 2:20 and you have hours of work to do. Unfortunately the library is only open till 5pm and you don’t get your work done. Plus your parents are busy and can’t give you a ride home.
wait, don't they have libraries or something?
i had like 4 I had access to and I didn't have a laptop so i had to use them
Marina Borzova you probably lives in a good neighborhood. Some neighborhood have few or bad quality libraries with little resources, and if ur a kid with working parents they not be always able to drive you to a library and buses are not free. It's all piles up in a negative way for the poor.
They likely do have some sort of access, so students without home internet access can't argue that assignments requiring access are completely impossible to complete and therefore receive alternate assignments, but often teachers will go on to assign homework that is fully completed and submitted online or requires the use of computer based resources for hours at a time. Students who have to complete all of these tasks at libraries, which often have limited usage windows, are at a huge disadvantage to students who have unlimited access to these types of resources. With the growing ubiquity of internet access, the amount of grade school assignments relying on these resources has grown drastically in the past few years. The point of this video is to highlight how the assumptions many schools have formed about student internet access are incorrect and can greatly harm a student's ability to succeed.
I have DSL home internet service, I am limited to 1.2 Mbps download. My closest library is 12 miles away, I could upgrade to satellite based internet which goes out during heavy rain or snow, and most plans only allow 5 GB per month. above that they either throttle your speed down to what the old dialup speeds were or charge like $10 per GB over your allotment. And most families with kids can burn their monthly allotment in 1-3 days. Also be aware the latest windows 10 feature update was 2.56 GB so that alone is over half your monthly allotment.
No library near and when you’re out of money you’re not wondering about that but instead your next meal
みさきめい don’t be a brat you can only speak on the subject like that once you’ve hit that low and gone without being advantaged
Thank God libraries exist, we had a power outage at one point, but only on my street, the teacher wasn't gonna make exceptions, but my nearby library had tons of available computers
There is something called a library with computers, books, and librarians to help you find what you're looking for. Plus, the state of California and a few others give all students a chrome book. Sadly, the problem is that the people pay a tax to have these computers, and the amount is more than what is needed to cover the cost, the extra cash is pocketed by King Brown and his loyal subjects. This just shows how people react quickly without thinking first.
Government101:"Let's tax people so that they can be given what they could otherwise purchase for less"
I left Californian high school last year. We were not 'given' Chromebooks. We were permitted to use them during school hours. We could not take them home, and libraries were not always a practical solution due to difficult walking terrain, etc. As for the king and his peasants...I'm with you there. Still CA has one of the poorest school systems in the U.S.
I live in California. I have never received a take-home Chromebook. They are used in class, and sometimes at lunch. My school library is also only open 1 hour after school, and the public library allows a member to use the computer for 1 hour per day. Luckily, I have internet access, but there are thousands that don't. You can keep trying to name solutions but it doesn't constitute a great impact if the solutions are not widely accessible.
+William Taylor That's what I meant, public school student use them in class and government charter school students are homeschooled so they are kept at home. Thanks for catching me there.
Now I'm reacting without thinking first. :(
yeah it isn't right to pocket money but the tax is important because sure you could buy a computer for less but not everyone can afford one even at the original price, so the state taxes help them to get their education and improves the whole school.
Go to the Library?
But what if their neighborhood is dangerous and/or it's too cold, too far, or there just isn't a local library? I live in the middle of nowhere, and the nearest libraries are 6 and 8 miles away.
Getting internet is cheap. Phones and computers are insanely cheap. You can get a really really good phone for 100$ and a computer for 300$, internet is minimum 5-15$ a month, it is not expensive, everyone has access, maybe not everyone in the world, but not everyone in the world needs it anyway.
Produde24; I have several needles to pop your argument.
"Getting internet is cheap."
In Europe that statement is very true. For the most part.
But this is America.
So let me explain to you why that changes things a lot.
If you do not live in more populated states, you have less access to good internet. Sometimes your only option is Satellite which can be as slow as dial-up and cost over 100$ a month with a limited Data-cap. (not to mention it is affected by weather) One long youtube video and there goes your internet for the month.
Even in an area with more options and higher speeds, you still have to pay a lot.
Where I live is a good example; I'm not out in the boonies by no means compared to a lot of Americans.
It is a swift drive to a small town in about 10minutes.
That being said, when I was younger, we had the worst internet imaginable. Being Urban has its down sides, if you ever talked to or been in the business of communications.
There is a term called the "Urban effect"
which is where since the lines for the net go for miles and miles connecting many people to the net in a echo back format. (meaning the line ends and does not re-enter another relay)
The more people that get on, the worse your net will be.
up until about 2 years ago our internet was still affected by this, to where sometimes are connection would be worse than dial-up.
The price for that internet was 60$ a month.
For most, well that is a week of groceries.
Now fast forward to now, my net is way better and we get what we pay for because we lack the urban effect. A solid 24D 1.6U
Though the reason why we do is because we are a large family..
and we split the 120$ Bill. And other families on our road, do not. we have are own separate line for net because it required Fiber, but since other families do not use Fiber, they are still on the same wire. So we get less of a urban effect because not many people can afford that much a month for internet.
"internet is minimum 5-15$"
You must be from one of the European union countries correct?
Or perhaps silicon valley..?
in European Countries yes this is the case for the most part.
15$ in places like. Estonia. Gets you a nice never fluctuating 100D 100U
(Which is better than 90% of American internet.)
Pay 60$; you get a 1G D and 1G U
So yeah, in places like that sure.
But this video was more for Americans.
which a quick google search would remedy; (also the main point of the video lol)
That the average cost for internet in the U.S is A whopping, 60$!
Far from 5-15$ that you proposed.
(Fun-Fact: globally including only developed countries the average is 104$)
Not to mention you also want cell phone net. Most phone companies and sellers will not allow you to have a internet/wi-fi capable phone without purchasing Cellular internet; this can be curved by using a paid-per-use and just never using the data. But in some places you cannot buy such plans.. All this ONLY for 1GB of data, on most carriers that averages around 60$ as well.
So for phone and computer you looking at 120$ monthly.
Anyway, that is all! I hope this helps you understand others struggles in our country here.
Yes well I do understand, and I did over exaggerate the cost of internet. I live in Canda, our prices are much lower than the US, you are correct that they are drastically different. I do feel sorry for the people in rural town's that don't have access to good and affordable internet. In Canada there are many small towns with incredible fibre-optic cables with high speed capabilities, a town in Alberta has 1 gygabite per second internet or 1000MBPS.
As we move into the future, the small towns you talk about will hopefully receive networks that do not disadvantage them. However, I am sure that if they work as a town together they would be able to convince companies to come and give great internet opportunities to the town.
Hopefully it gets better for the US, I was mostly unware of these seemingly widespread issues as I have never encountered them.
As someone who didn't have internet access for the majority of high school, I am so happy that people are giving this issue attention
dammit this got political fast
How is having internet access everywhere political? I didn't see any politics in this video.
MischievousMoo this was uploaded during the FCC internet issue, and its still a hot debate. the education system is run by the government, and for less-wealthy families, some rely on government-help access to internet. others dont even have access, period.
this video is a little too late. theres so many kids with the potential to do great things, but now its becoming much harder to allow them to use the tools.
But not as fast as you changed the dedication of your 3rd symphony.
Tf is this
This video brought up so many memories that it really did break my heart to hear the statistics.
Short story since it reminded me of this: When I was younger I had to do a project for some underwater creature that I never heard of but I didn’t have any access to the internet or to a printer. I told my teacher the next day and she got really mad at me because she thought I was lying. I was 7 or 8 at the time. I remember crying and saying I wasn’t lying. It’s honestly so horrible.
Right now I’m a high school student who doesn’t have a perfectly working printer and has an outdated laptop but I’m grateful for what I have, because at least I can do assignments here and there online.
Breaking news: people higher on the social ladder are more likely to succeed.
Also water is wet.
T H E G U Y W I T H T H E L O C K S ♡
Sending this to all of my teachers I've ever had so far.
They don't need HIGH SPEED Internet. Just Internet. And then the whole claim just vanished. lol
highspeed just refers to not dial up
I save a little bit of money to purchase a second computer 🖥 for my son ,and get the cheapest internet I could get due to budget #single mom.#there is always a way ,if you want to do the best for your kids to succeed 😀.