Kabuki Transformer Bar - Why I Don't Recommend For Most People
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- In today's video I go over the Kabuki Transformer Bar. This is a fantastic piece of equipment, however I still don't recommend it to most people. Here's why!
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I’ve used this bar extensively. It is expensive, but I plan to use it the rest of my life. Also, get ready to wait a few months if you want one. One advantage it has over many specialty bars that was not mentioned is it takes regular collars. I’ve never noticed the sleeves move at all once there is weight on them - never been a problem at all for me. I do check the sleeves every time I use it to make sure they haven’t rotated and might slip out on me. This only happens when not loaded on my rack. They sometimes rotate when I move it around and put it back in my bar stand - not a major problem but something you need to keep an eye on for safety. Since I’ve had major cervical spine issues in the past, I find this bar is much easier on me for squats than a regular barbell. If all you want to use is the SSB position, I agree it’s better to get a regular SSB. Great video.
Mine does not take regular collars ? I need to use my calibrated comp ones so it fastens down
apprecaite the in depth feedback.
Mine uses regular collars too
I looked at the Transformer Bar but opted for a Belt Squat. Yes it's not a perfect soltuion or feasible in terms of space but it works for me.
Similar movements with added benefit of deloading my back.
Have you compared the settings to the exercises they’re supposed to mimic?
Great review! Always appreciate your transparency on the reviews, as well as how and why it works in some instances, but not others.
I appreciate that!
I’ve had it for a year and a half now, I agree with most of what you said except the part about fixing the sleeves… the different positions change the center of gravity and thus back position so it’s a different effect than just loading more or less weight. Also I really like the goblet position for a very upright, quad dominant squat. Probably not going to be doing 300+ lb goblet squats with a dumbbell, lol.
Agree. The “easier/harder” is more so how dramatic (for lack of a better word) it makes the movement rather than just how heavy it feels. And even if you could theoretically do 300lb goblet squats with a dumbbell imagine trying to hold that in place lol. Even holding a 100lb dumbbell in that position my ability to hold it fatigues much faster than my legs or core do.
I don't disagree, but I still don't think the effect is as significant as you could also change the setting which would then also change the center of gravity.
Working my way through your back catalog. Great stuff-some of the very best videos in the space. Thanks for the effort and information.
appreciate ya man!
Great information. Your insights are always helpful.
Glad you think so!
Glad you released this review because I was wondering how you felt about this bar. I should be getting this bar delivered in a few weeks. It'll be my first SSB, and the main reason I ordered it was because I'm very uncomfortable with front squats and low bar squats but I want to include them in my routine.
I think you’ll love it but honestly if those are your primary reasons for getting it the Marrs-Bar might have been the best option for you. Those are the two movements it was specifically designed for.
I think in that case you'll get a lot of use out of it
Good to see you buddy. Havent talked in a minute. Glad to see you have the channel still going
Thanks big Caleb!
First, love this style of video! I had a feeling that your delay in putting this video out was going to lean towards not a glowing recommendation for everyone. I use mine for months at a time to try and get a squat bar off my back and find the variations of settings challenge me in different ways. Appreciate your thoughts on the bar and how you apply it to your training as well.
Thanks Joe, I think it's more just I have way too many "review" videos to do and not enough time or want to talk about this bar... which is surprising considering I just rambled on for 10 min about it lol
I ordered mine back at the beginning of March. It should be shipping out next week or the week after! I am extremely excited about getting this bar and the anticipation will be well worth it I think. I plan on utilizing this bar for replacing more than just all my barbell squat variations but also because of the hinge position I plan on using it a lot for goodmornings. I understand the gripe with the sleeves, but the reason you want that is because changing how far the sleeves are from the shaft alters the moment/torque on the lifter. Chris is an engineer and wouldn't have included this functionality in bringing this bar to market if it wasn't just as useful as the pop pin allowing you to alter the variation of squat you're able to mimic.
That's why I usually order from their blemish bars, get a little discount, but more importantly they ship next day in most cases.
Thanks Brandon for your insight, I was looking forward to that one !
i have mixed feelings about mine but i appreciate it overall, especially for good mornings.
I also have a bit of a gripe about the handles lenght, however they do sell screwable knobs which make it a shorter handle bar (for those who have the new updated version with removable handles), doesn't get in the way too much I guess but it's still more money to spend again.
I wish it was easier to switch the difficulty level and between the different settings. it's a pain when you have to remove all the weight to adjust one side and the other. changing a setting even with a minimal amount of weight throws off the balance and causes the other side to be even more annoying to switch to the same setting. nature of the beast though I guess, i don't think that Kabuki could work around it.
appreciate the first hand feedback!
All your points were valid and exactly the conclusion I came up with. I can do all my lifts with all the equipment I already have. Another thought would be maybe this bar would be a great investment if I was just starting out building my gym.
Yeah for sure, if you are low on space (or overall budget) this can check a lot of boxes in a smaller footprint.
Great review. I have one and have the same issues you mentioned, but I love the versatility.
Appreciate the insight!
Thanks for the video! This answers the questions I had. I have an EliteFTS Yoke Bar and a flat Safety Squat Bar and wanted to see if this would be better for me than a Marrs Bar. Looks like I should go with the Marrs Bar instead of ditching the other two and getting this one. The part at 8:11 was what needed. Great video!
Glad it was helpful!
OUTSTANDING JOB!!! and yes I still want one, probably my last specality bar purchase
If you have the budget I don't think you'll be disappointed.
well this is helpful and couldnt be more perfect timing. I was looking as this bar as a alternative to barbell squats for when I started doing some PL training Because my shoulders are absolute garbage for squats unless I got some way to go wide like a Mono or something. So this made perfect sense to me because of the variations and I was looking forward to your take as powerlifter. So I appreciate you coming out with this video.
Don't get me wrong, it's great, but I think a good SSB does a lot of the same things (for me at least) for cheaper.
@@BasementBrandon ill take your word for it. Ill go with a cambered/ssb combo and get strong that way.
I pretty much agree with your main takeaway here: since I don't compete and have no intention of ever competing, I bought this bar around a year and a half ago and replaced my HB barbell squat with this exclusively. I find this so much more enjoyable to use and seriously use it every session. I also have horizontal barbell holders in my rack up high and just keep my TB up there out of the way. I also agree that the handles are definitely too long, but I've found that this issue can be at least partially mitigated by instead grabbing the handles up higher at the first camber. It's just too bad that there's no knurling up there though.
appreciate the first hand feedback!
I completely agree regarding the handles. I have the v3 Transformer and I've gotten into the habit of setting it up upside down just so I can keep them out of the way. I originally got the bar when I was having issues with pain in my hip when I squat. I found that the more forward I had the weight in the squat the less pain I had. So during the rehab process I started in the goblet equivalent and moved the weight back over time.
Never thought about that! Don't think it would work with the newer versions.
I had the v2 a few years ago. It’s was a great bar but it was very cumbersome to change and after a while I ended up just leaving in the ssb setting and changing it to the low bar squat setting whenever my shoulders were feeling beat up. Eventually got rid of it and went with titan and used the difference towards a pair of iron master dumbbells. The idea is very cool but I don’t really miss it.
Appreciate the insight!
I do agree the long handles get in the way for pretty much every position besides the low bar and hinge setting. I’ve had mine for about a year and would buy it again in a heart beat. I use every setting but the SSB setting
Haha too funny
Felt the same way
I tend to like to keep things simple and stick to the regular SSB however it’s a fantastic bar and Kabuki is a fantastic company. Chris and the people he employs are always so great to deal with.
Shouts out to Charley she is amazing, sorry if I’m spelling your name wrong!
Agreed!
Yeah Charlie is absolutely awesome to talk to. Very knowledgeable young woman. Mr. Duffin has a stand up respectable crew up there.
Absolutely great video 🙏 love the simple and to the point presentation👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 instead of some others who keep making funny faces in thumbnail
I keep my funny face for the actual video lol
I like this bar. That’s it. I’ve had it for over a year and I have no major complaints. That said, I had a SS Yoke bar for several years before owning a Transformer Bar and I miss it more than I like the TB. In the beginning I loved the versatility, but over time I found I only used the SSB setting. Also, the SS Yoke padding is far better. Also, I agree with your complaints about the handle length. Who knows …mine may be on the market in the future. Great content, as always.
Def makes sense to me! I use them about the same, which tells me I could have just kept my SSB and been fine.
Really appreciate the insight 👍🏻
Thanks Eric
Hey Brandon. Been waiting for this video for a while. I got the elitefts on a sale and I love it, but a part of me wondered if I should’ve just spent double (lol) to get the Transformer Bar. I eventually got over it after thinking it through and my conclusion really matches up to everything you said in the video, so thank you!
How do the pads compare the two though?
Elite is a bit more firm but both have held up well for me.
I just purchased this bar after I got injured on my left shoulder. I'm 5'7 and I agree that the handles are a little long but after a few workouts I got used to it pretty quick. Maybe an inch or 2 shorter would be perfect. it does what it's supposed to do and I don't have all the mobility to do low bar squat or front squat. This helps me do the movement without learning a new skill. it is not perfect but I don't need it to mimic the real movements perfectly to make great gains. I never had an SSB before so I'm not sure how this feel compare to one, but I plan to use this for life so it is to me a decent investment. The only complaint is that I have a small frame so it sits on my collarbone in certain movements, I have to lift the bar up a bit using the handle. I can't find a narrower SSB so that's just how SSB are I guess unless I make one just for me. It's great but $700 for a squat bar is still a lot for a bar unless you have some spare money to spend on it. I paid this price thinking it's the best bar for me not because I have a lot of money. So I agree that a regular SSB is still more valuable to most people and recommend it over this unless you cant do the movements without this bar. I think you can do front squat with a regular SSB too but it requires some practice. Great honest review.
Thanks for the detailed insight!
Good review. Although, I disagree about just leaving it in the 4 hole and using lighter weights. The difference between 1 and 4 are almost totally different stimuluses. Like SSB setting on level 4 is like using a Marrs Bar and on level 1 it’s like a standard SSB. I find it’s a great bar for lighter days, where that ability to slightly adjust the position reduces overuse injuries. IMO
I just think with the angle of the adjustment you could maybe put it on a different setting and get a similar position to where adjusting the storage peg would put you.
Great review, B!
Thanks B
I just got mine in yesterday. I plan to use the multiple settings vs just one setting. I’ll have to see how it goes with the handles as they are longer than what I’m use to. I tried just with no weight and definitely noticed I had to flare my elbows a bit more than what I’m use to. Maybe with more use in training I’ll find my groove with it. One thing I noticed is adjusting the sleeves. They don’t just pop in easily and I have to mess with them to get them in.
Keep me posted.
How do you feel about the bar? The length of the handles really ruin the bar. Rom is compromised because the stupid handles get in the way with pretty much every movement
@@jeffschultz9184 they aren’t an issue for me and absolutely love my Kabuki Transformer bar.
Love my Transformer. Lets me do "front squats" even with my awful mobility (which I need to fix). I've also ever put it on anything other than the hardest setting.
Also do find that my arms get in the way. I have to flair them to get depth. I'm short, not sure how that affects this.
Glad I'm not the only one!
I had the same problem with arms getting in the way (I'm also short). For this reason, I wish Kabuki knurled the handles all the way to the top as gripping the top of them gets rid of this issue, but holding onto smooth handles and pulling hard on them while performing a low bar squat is extremely difficult with heavy weight.
Great video, what do you have attached to the bar while performing squats (3:48) instead of chains? Looks like possibly straps and sand bags?
It's a Spud Inc looper strap with chains, but the chains have sheaths on them to dampen the noise. I train when my kids nap so it helps!
I have one. I like the SSB and goblet settings. The high bar is ok but not a fan of the low bar setting, have to really hold it tight because it wants to roll down my back and pull me backwards which only causes me to use lower weight. If someone is looking for a shoulder saver to mimic low bar, I would recommend the Marrs Bar. I have no regrets buying the Transformer Bar and I like it and use it every week but in hindsight I probably would have been better off getting a Marrs and the Titan SSB.
Agreed. I find for low bar and high bar it seems off from a traditional bar.
I’d like to see some emg stuff comparing the different settings to their traditional counter parts. Like front squat.
Would be interesting!
Been using one for a bit now. Saves the elbows from wear and tear from low bar. I found that high bar through goblet squat is amazing, low bar is awkward if you dont gave it on the lowest difficulty. And i rarely use hinge
appreciate the feedback!
Outstanding video. I passed on this bar and opted for the EliteFTS SSB. I just couldn't justify the price for the Kabuki bar over the SSB.
Great bar!
Excellent review and agree- would get less expensive safety squat bar as an option.
Appreciate the comment!
A combination between this and the Marrs bar would be sick. The other thing to consider re: the easier/harder weight thing, is it also changes your centre of mass, not just how hard the movement is. Eg: on goblet squat, with the sleeves out as far as possible, you would likely be able to squat a lot more upright if you had poor mobility, than if you had the pins all the way in. I mean yes it would still FEEL harder but it’s not just that. I’d love to try one out one day. They’re so expensive here.
Could be, but then in that case you could also just go to the other setting to change the center of mass (ex from goblet to front squat)
@@BasementBrandon yeah that’s true too, I’d like to use one one day and have a play, there is an Aus stockist but they’re super expensive, there is knock off ones here but even then, they’re like $600AUD.
I think I’d rather a CB-4 first haha
Which safety bar would you recommend for doing just low bar squats?
If trying to emulate the stimulus of a low bar squat only, I've heard the Marrs bar is the most similar.
I am going on week 21 waiting for this bar to ship. The worse thing is by far the wait, the second worse is paying for it up front. I am excited about the bar because my shoulder mobility sucks. This will be my squat and good morning bar.
TBH this is one of the reasons I almost always buy blemished bars from Kabuki. Save a little money and usually ship next day.
I use for ssb, front squat, and good mornings. I have the black widow ssb and the old transformer (v3) and this is light years better
I have severe arthritis in both hips and with the ability to extensively adjust this bar I can get in a pain free position to squat which I can no longer do with normal bars.
I can use the rhino and transformer to keep variety in my routine and hopefully push off my hip replacement for years down the road
Appreciate the first hand feedback!
Had mine for over a year. The day it got delivered I had covid and the next two weeks I was sick as a dog so I didn’t even get to try it out right away, Been using it since February this year and using it today actually
Right on!
I’ve had this bar since it was announced. I would say along with the Kabuki trap bar it’s my favorite piece of equipment
Right on!
@@BasementBrandon oh and you mentioned the padding and you were right. I’ve beat the hell out of it and it still looks new with no deformation or dry rot. It’s a very pricey bar for sure but I haven’t regretted it
The full phrase is “a jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one.”
I don’t regret purchasing this bar. But I completely agree with your review. I do use it primarily in the SSB position. I was told to flare the elbows out to create room but I can’t get the desired tightness. Box squats are money for the path I take during those. One side gets a little stuck when adjusting but I was assured it was within spec. So I’ll just deal with it.
I think I also misspoke on the "Nature of the beast" saying Belly of the Beast lol. What an idiot.
@@BasementBrandon you’re a wealth of information and I appreciate you!
I love this bar. I am older, very inflexible shoulders so it lets me get back to high and low bar squats along with SSB Hatfield Squats. Im also having my 14yr old son start his lifting with this bar for squats to protect his shoulders in long run. Benches, OHP are plenty to beat up your shoulders. Only things i dont like about the bar, its a pain in the ass to change positions or the sleeves. i do have the 4th version, but sometimes the mechanisms get stuck. And kabuki takes forever to get your order. and the pad is good, but not as great as Elites SSB bar pad, that has the best pad around.
appreciate the feedback!
Question please- I got this transformer bar and the low bar setting feels like it’s going to slide all the way off my back and when i’m holding it in what I assume is the right position it feels so so low. Do you feel the low bar setting is in true low bar position or does the high bar setting more closely mimic a traditional low bar squat?
We have this bar at our gym along with a Titan V2 SSB. The Transformer Bar sits in the corner collecting dust. I've went through phases where I've used it in my training and tried all the settings but none of them actually feel like what it says they are supposed to IMO.
Appreciate the feedback!
Good review, I wanted it but after watching this I think I'll get a regular ssb bar or maybe a marrs bar. Have you tried the marrs bar?
I have not. I know a lot of people love it, but to me I think I'd rather just use a SSB.
Thanks
Welcome
Do you have the prime super squat bar? Any good
I don't. I don't like the long handles on my transformer bar so I worry the prime would have the same issues.
I’ve honestly regretted replacing my EliteFTS SSB Yoke bar with the Kabuki since about a week after purchasing the kabuki.
In my opinion, the novelty and idea behind it is very cool. I believe it could be a useful tool for people who may have issues with regular movement patterns on barbell squats, but even then, it is a poor replacement for anything other than SSB.
The front squat setting, for instance, I think undermines half of the purpose and benefit of true front squats if you have the mobility to do them. The upper back and core hypertrophic effect were definitely lessened for my friends and I who used this bar in place of front squats for a block.
Does it hit the legs well and in a most likely similar fashion? Probably. But for me it was more valuable to have the benefit of balance, power and mobility developed alongside it.
I wouldn't say I regret replacing my EliteFTS SSB, but if I knew then what I know now, I likely wouldn't have gotten the transformer.
Who is Adam and what's his channel? Great review on the bar. Having it for a year really gives a trustworthy perspective on the pros and cons. Also, do you kettlebell much? I haven't got any, and I am debating whether they are worthwhile or a long term use injury waiting to happen.
Garage Gym Lab!
Brandon, can you tell a difference between the different squat style settings?
Yes I can, but you can also manipulate it some by pulling up or down on the handles.
Well done, and thanks for doing it! One recommendation- if you could pause a little longer on the part that has the adjustment for goblet etc., it wasn’t long enough for me to read the options, and when I paused the video to try and read, it was too blurry. Just a recommendation not a criticism, if I was that interested I could just go to the Kabuki website.
Noted!
I have the latest version and use it for SSB, Goblet, Front, and Good Mornings. The only thing I do not use it for is high bar squat. I have never done low bar squat.
Low bar is the best bar :)
man thanks for making this! I am still on the fence and am kinda upset they don't do the zinc anymore...also I heard blems don't have any warranty at all which is kinda sketchy...I get they are blems and you shouldn't be able to Karen but i mean warranty to give you faith about structural integrity is key. I am praying rogue takes over production and re-introduces this as that would make my decision to buy a lot easier!
My blems have all been pretty decent... fingers crossed.
I am a fan of Transformer bar. I do really like it for good mornings and front squats
Right on!
I had this ssb for about 2 years the clear coat is coming off and some rust on the handles. Got mine during the cov times dk if the craftsmanship affected it. But I don't like the sleeves, they rust as well. The harder position throws your to much forward. Also hit my elbows on my knees. Lastly I feel it sits to far back unlike the fts yoke I have upright posture for proper ssb.
Dang sorry to hear. Kabuki makes some great stuff but I agree their QC is not always the best.
I have the blem version of the newest model. The removable handles are not great because you can accidentally twist one loose during a set. I might just use the bar without them. Still a cool piece in whole, but it’s odd that it carries with it issues that should be easy fixes
That's a good point. That happened to me with my eliteFTS one a few times.
Brandon, did you get a chance to see the new top gun yet? Did you feel the need for speed?
I have yet to see it!
Brandon - Transformer vs Marrs bar. Which one is better for a heavy squatter? I can no longer straight bar squat as it is tearing up my neck/traps pinching nerves.
I have not used the Marrs but hear a lot of people like it. One of my concerns with it is that most say it is very close to a low bar back squat, which for me doesn't have as much value since I can do that already, but may be right up your alley.
Love when Brandon goes raw
we goin in!
do you think this "jack of all trades" issue will be the same for the maverick bar? or do you think that one is so versatile and cost effective that it overcomes that issue?
I watched @glucksgym video and it looks interesting, but too funky for me. Maybe if you don't have the need/want to buy multiple bars it could fill a niche. It also has a low weight rating IIRC
What brand of chain attachment set up are you using in this vid? Thanks
They're spud inc looper straps.
Hey Brandon, thanks for this video. I appreciate your honesty. I'm on the fence about the transformer bar or the EliteFTS Rackable Cambered Spider Bar. I currently only have an Ohio Power Bar. I can only do Zercher Squats due to my shoulder mobility. What are your thoughts and recommendations? I don't want to waste my money on something that is going to be more trouble than it's worth.
A guy whose opinion I trust said to go with the EliteFTS bar. But, I want to get a second opinion. Thanks!
TBH I don't like how either have really long handles. I've since bought a dedicated SSB again (REP) and have been using that more often than my Transformer.
@@BasementBrandon So, would it be safe to say that getting 2 separate bars would be a better option? I.E. REP SSB (which I have a ton of REP equipment) and EliteFTS Rackable Cambered Squat Bar (not the Spider bar version)?
@@davidb1975a Do you need the bars, or just want them? With the cambered squat bar you could also use that for pressing, but having both just seems a bit overkill.
@BasementBrandon I don't know if there's an actual "need" factor. I could pry find other ways to do squats.
However, I did want something that would help me improve my squats. That's why I thought the Cambered Squat Bar would serve me better. So, I decided to buy one yesterday.
The REP Fitness SSB is just something I want.
@@BasementBrandon Thanks for this advice. Helps keep me from wasting money on something that might just sit around collecting dust.
I've done a lot of homework on this stuff. But, it helps when I get someone's opinion.
Any possibility of replacing the handles with an eye bolt and using chain handles? Kinda like the Bells of Steel SSB. Not sure what size it would be.
As someone who owns a BOS version the chains and long handles are useless. I sold them to someone on IG to get them out of my gym since they just took up space which is limited in my 1 car garage gym. However I would assume you could. You just need to know the thread specs. The BOS ones fit the SS Yoke according to the guy who bought them. The BOS was nicer when it was under $300 shipped. However at its current price I would watch for an Elite FTS yoke when they have free shipping.
@@bmstylee thanks for the info. I haven’t heard much about the alternate handles. Garage gym lab did a video where he put chain handles on a regular SSB.
I was just kinda considering it to avoid the handle length issues with the Transformer Bar. I have hit my legs a few times with them.
Not on this one.
Rogue version also has short handles as an option
the nubs! At the time of this video that bar was not yet available.
What are the pop handle upgrades you have and where do you get them?
Just metal ends, got them from McMaster Carr.
Hi, is 1 layer of 3/4 rubber matt enough to protect my floor from deadlifts?
Depends on the condition of your floor, which weights you're using, how heavy you go, and if you're dropping.
What are those white tubes you have on the inside of the middle uprights?
They're offsets for j cups. Will do a video soon.
How does this compare to the Marrs Bar?
Have not used. But Marrs bar is basically fixed in the low bar setting.
The MARRS ssb is better in my opinion because it does everything great! Front squat with the MARRS bar is a dream! I sold my transformer bar because the only movements I used were front squat and SSB setting. Back squats were VERY uncomfortable for me (transformer bar)
I have yet to use it so my opinion might change, but it just looks a bit funky to me. I would worry you can't change the weight distribution as easily since the hands wrap around and don't seem to allow you to push up or pull down. Any insight?
My buddy gave me his old version after he purchased the new version. I’m into it for zero,my teen sons love it and I like it too--probably not for 230 dollars shipping though!
If it's free it's for me!
I think Gluck just reviewed the Kabuki Transformer Killer. It's some unholy amalgamation of steel and black magic dreamed up in a mad scientist's lab...
I think in theory it sounds sweet, but looking at it and it's capacity is kind of meh to me.
@@BasementBrandon It's definitely not for me, but maybe a conjugate guy would get off on it? Just imagine all the weights and bands you could hang from that thing! 😅
What size knobs do you need to replace the pop handles?
I posted it on IG, I got them from McMaster Carr. Black-Oxide Steel Knurled Grip Knob
with 3/8"-16 Threaded Hole, 1-1/2" Head Diameter
@@BasementBrandon Thanks! I ordered as I want a better knob.
Cancelled my order for this and ordered a regular SSB. The comment about the handle length and having to flare elbows sealed it for me. I have a Marrs Bar which is great to use right now because I have shoulder issues from a labrum repair and it hurts to have a straight bar on my back, but the length of the Marrs handles also forces my elbows into my legs at heavy weights. I don't need an SSB that does that when the main reason I use an SSB is to build upper back stability.
Some good feedback. I have not used the Marrs, but I'm assuming it's not as easy to move the handles up or down while using.
In my humble opinion, I love mine and you can't load front squats or goblets as heavy without it. And it is definitely easier on the neck doing good mornings (which I love)
Fair enough!
I tried it out but it is super heavy and expensive and a pain to get in place! Love the features and helps with shoulder issues but my back is more sore doing squats than regular squat bar since it puts more load on middle and lower back.
It's def a bit awkward to set up!
I'm in the same spot where I primarily use this bar to front squat. If I had known how much you have to hold onto the handles for dear life when using the low bar setting, I probably wouldn't have picked it up tbh.
Lol def a freaky feeling the first time you do it!
@@BasementBrandon I remember seeing Coop review a bar that is fixed in the low back position, have you tried that one to see how it compares? If I remember correctly when he demonstrated he didn't even have to hold the handles to keep it in position. The pad sits much lower on the back than this one.
@@mikesmith379 the MARRS bar?
@@HoZzilla1 that's it, thanks!
@@mikesmith379 It's the Marrs bar. It looks funky to me and I'd actually prefer to be able to move it around some so you could do more than just low bar back squat.
12 : 11 offsets review coming soon?
Maybe!
Great 👍 I support you 👊🇫🇷
Big thanks
Any idea when Rogue will drop their version of this bar?
My guess is over summer.
"a jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one.”
I am not a smart man.
hey Brandon would you recommend the duffalo bar over the transformer bar?
Depends. If you want the best bar for squatting, go transformer. But if you want a bar to bench with too, duffalo.
@@BasementBrandon true. just got a second market duffalo and love it so far
This still holds up. Should have listened the first time lol
😅
Great review. 👍 But That $200+ for shipping, ouch!
Woulda been a lot cooler if it were $80 like it is now!
You look awesome and lean with your shirt off at 4:00! That’s the first time I’ve seen you with your shirt off. I think you should include more shirtless sets. It’s a challenge to stay lean and you’re doing great sir. It also helps to buck the stereotype that all powerlifters are fat, and this promotes good health too. You’re muscular but not silly large, so it’s also motivating to people to think that your strength is attainable for a reasonable physique. (Realistically, very few will get as strong as you but you know what I mean.)
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Yea…….it feels kinda hype-y. Awesome bar don’t get me wrong, but this one was never super enticing. Thanks for the look at it though I always enjoy your breakdowns!
I think you'd love it actually based on how often you use your SSB lol.
@@BasementBrandon that is very fair. The bar is beautiful and top notch. I just would not make full use of its versatility. Calling it hype-y might be unfair. I would just agree with you that it’s premium would have to be justified through its use to its full potential. Also- I value my life and my wife is on high alert for home gym purchases currently!
You can do a front squat on an EliteFTS yoke bar too. You put it in the rack “Backwards” and unscrew the handles. It feels just as horrible as normal front squats did lol. I have horrible shoulder mobility from injuries now so I can’t do either front squats or even a straight or buffalo bar back squats without shoulder pain. I use my EliteFTS spider bar for normal back squats and use the yoke bar for SSB and rare front squat movements. I also have a regular cambered bar from Titan that I got for $189. I know everyone hates Titan but that bar is just as good and the same quality as a $300 version. In fact my EliteFTS spider bar has TERRIBLE welds and powder coating on it and it was like $500. I’ll also say that the Titan wagon wheels have been flawless and so has the landmine. The landmine handles are straight garbage though. I had a weld split on the wider grip handle and had it repaired and reinforced.
I def lived that live.
Reasons to buy it: 1. It looks super cool. 2. The fin' Rock has it. 3. It's good for lunges and split squats. Bonus reason: Basement Brandon told us not to get it and we do the opposite of whatever he says.
Reason 1 is the most important after all!
I bought the version 3.0 used for $350 from a local guy. Plus they threw in an SBD lever belt. I made out like a bandit.
Damn son. That's a steal given an SBD is $250 alone. Someone sounds like they needed cash.
Pretty good deal!
How do you like compared to the marrs bar?
Have not used :(
The New Rogue Transformer bar is fire!!
You think? I've heard mixed things.
@@BasementBrandon Yeah, I love the different variations and how it somewhat acts like CB-1 ROGUE CAMBER BAR when put on the harder slot. Easy to adjust, even with weights on as well. A lot less pressure on the shoulders and forearms! Plus it is helping me get more comfortable with heavier weight on my back. I love this thing! It is not perfect, but a great specialty bar. Especially for the SSB, front squat, and goblet squats!
I use the SSB as my primary squat. I used the transformer for a few months in different variations during my last meet prep and it just feels....weird? I've had several clients say the same. Idk, it's an awesome idea, but between the long ass handles/padding feels weird the way it wraps/odd positioning....just not worth paying that kinda money.
Makes sense to me.
I don't like it because like other safety bars, it's high bar style. The exception is the Marrs Bar. What do you think of those?
I have not used a Marrs bar. What I hear is that it's a good replacement for low bar squats. My issue would likely be that I can low bar squat without issue, so I want something that changes the lift more.
@@BasementBrandon Yes, exactly.. Most people do high bar because of mobility issues but why would you since they're awful. The low bar squat is far superior.
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Thanks for taking a look!
What is the thing thats attached to the rear uprights ?
I'm going to do a video on them soon (I hope). They're offsets, this way you can bring your jcups in and get a grip out by the end of the barbell if needed.
@@BasementBrandon oh, its the same idea that u have with fancy powerlifting racks with adjustable width .. SMART !
Great review but I just can’t really agree that it doesn’t do multiple things “well”. I find both front squats and high bar squats amazing (high bar likely would feel a bit weird with the weight horn at 4 like you have it though). For someone like you who is going to compete with a straight bar I get it, but for “most people” I think it does both of those movements well enough to not even have to squat with a straight bar ever again 🤷🏻♂️. I also realize you sorta mention that at the end of your video.
Appreciate the feedback. To me while it's passable as a high bar, it's still different enough from an actual straight bar. Agree with you on front squats though.
I ordered the REP version and could not justify the cost of the Kabuki. I hope the REP version is a good quality product that works well as a SSB.
Looks pretty sweet!
He made the video!
May take awhile, but I usually deliver.
Now this one is out of the queue let’s add the Xii : Xii rack off sets in there lol 😂
The lead times are always the issue unless you can score a blemished or used one
That's why I almost always go blem, ships next day!
Yep when available it’s better. Faster shipping and usually cheaper
I just used one the other day for the first time. Imo it’s very much a luxury and not a need. I’d never buy one just because I don’t think it’s very necessary. Also the one I used the pad seemed to already by separating and worn down and the bar was uncomfortable on my back because of it.
appreciate the feedback!
I don’t think the handles are too long.
Mostly user error.
If you don’t want to hold the ends of the handles then you can simply hold higher at a position of other bars.
Problem is that then changes the center of gravity so can defeat the purpose of the setting.
@@BasementBrandon not when you are supposed to hold the bar in place rather than move or shift it during a movement.
@@SkullCrushersClub What I'm saying is that in the normal position, if my arms get in the way and I push up on the handles to hold them in a higher (locked in) position, then it shifts the original location of where the center of gravity should be. Does that make sense?
@@BasementBrandon I think we are both confused.
When I said hold the handles higher I meant that you don’t have to hold the knurling.
You can place your hands higher on the handle rather than lift the handles higher?
Get me?