I worked in a phone store it was a big issues for ppl elderly wouldn literally come in solely to change the color of the msg they didnt care they were recriving msgs they WEREN'T THE RIGHT COLOR LOL brainwashed drones
@thecanmanification imessage is proprietary . It's dated and not a technological standard that would actually be compatible with things other than itself. They literally rewrote RCS and covered it with animations that make it seem fluid. The fact it's so limited to working well with ONLY others within iMessage is actually sad. It's not a good thing for them. Lol
Apple makes their systems annoyingly incompatible with competitors so kids will shame and peer pressure others to switch over. Its not too hard to understand.
This is only a problem for Americans, because they are incapable of downloading WhatsApp WhatsApp is basically the same as iMesaage, but it works on all phones and not just iPhone. So it's better.
As for green bubbles, they're just regular old sms text messages. They don't mean android phones are worse than iphones. It's just the old standard of text messaging that doesn't support much more than basic text. ...but so many Americans are sooo dumb, they think "green bubbles" are the "standard" Android phone messages. And they think it means those phones are clearly much worse than iPhones... when really it's their own fault because they didn't download a messaging app like Whatsapp. IMesaage itself is nothing more than a pre-installed messaging app anyway
@@cristoforestman - Pretty sure their server would need to read the plain text in order to send it through to Apple. But I don't know enough of this particular setup to say confidently.
They won't. It is part of their marketing strategy. You have 2 people with an iPhone, and that's all it takes for them to convince all their friends to buy phones for iMessage. Once locked in, they can't leave. Although this mainly applies in markets where iMessage is used (cough cough USA), elsewhere apps like WhatsApp level the playing field. Apple has no incentive, or a negative incentive to being more open, so they will never do it.
@@TazerXI yeah, you’re absolutely right. iMessage is arguably Apple’s biggest asset right now in recruiting people to use iPhones. I just wish that they would add rcs support so that using Android phones wouldn’t be such a burden.
@@poluticon Why do developers use so many IDE's? VS, JetBrains, Eclipse... Why do so many people wear different shoes? Adidas, Nike... Literally as with every question of this kind - Preference.
@@poluticon Preferences, UI, service quality...etc. for example Telegram is really useful for sharing long form videos without issues. Whatsapp is useful for sending simple messages and not getting clutter and still having groups.
I had Beeper. Seemed a little sketchy. I got rid of it. But I had it for a few days. They asked me why I was removing it, and wanted to get info to make it better. I honestly just didn't trust having all of my logins in one app. Seemed kind of unsafe.
I've heard of beeper, but I'm waiting for Sunbird to launch. Sunburn is a very similar app that's going to be consolidating many of the common messaging systems into one, including iMessage. And it shouldn't have these kinds of security issues either. It's supposed to launch to Google Play maybe this holiday season or early next year.
It's not about the color, it's more about how adding a android phone to a group chat means you can't send pictures anymore without them getting quality reduced
You must not live in America then. Sadly, everybody here uses imessage and nobody uses platforms like whatsapp. So Android users are shafted both functionally and socially to a degree. A really pathetic side of America that you are lucky to not have to deal with in your country
I’ve had friends tell me that they didn’t invite one of our friends to a birthday dinner because they have an android phone and it would ruin the group chat we made 😑
Yes, your apple account is being used to log into a server farm somewhere. Beeper explained that somewhere along the signup process. Thats why I made a new apple account just for it.
The only reason why green texts are a thing is because Apple is openly hostile to being compatible with Android. There is no technical limitation preventing them from adopting RCS, but they WANT iPhone users to have a bad time when they communicate with Android phones...
This. They want their users to complain to their friends about green bubbles, and try to make them buy iPhones. The bad part is that users are actually susceptible to this obviously manipulation. "You should get an iPhone." Like my message being green would actually entice me to buy into that BS 😂
Nah... They just have half of their brain But seriously, when i watch waveform channel Looks like apple really love those high wall (airpods, usbc, etc)😂
You can check if it's server/device logging into your account. Just go into your iCloud account and look at what devices are logged in. It'll show the device type and sometimes more info depending on the device. They could be spoofing it though.
How do you think iMessage works to begin with? It goes through Apple's servers (you could argue that they are a first party server, but I only consider my servers first party).
@@xocomaox Such a service has to be bound by "something". Apple provide those servers w/o charge and with great attention to security - which is always improving.
@@AlanTheBeast100But when it's something like WhatsApp or anything made by Facebook you can't guarantee that your messages are actually encrypted and you can only take it with a grain of salt
Americans be like „Oh no, we can’t figure out how to use another text messaging app than the stock one… green bubbles… oh no.“ And the rest of the world: WhatsApp? Telegram? Signal? -.-
Even though he only focused on iMessage, you can actually use all those apps within beeper. I can say from experience its a whole lot more convenient when all your messages from all your apps are compiled in one place
Apple has gone well beyond whatever was rational to keep a majority of users tied to the iPhone, including this version of techno-shame. But when people - Apple and Android users alike - begin compromising their personal security to bypass the techno-shame placed upon them, Apple should ask themselves some deep questions, reflect on the answers, and act accordingly...
This is a good point. If _one_ of the people in the conversation is using a third-party server, both parties' messages will be visible. So yeah, Apple is subjecting their own users to interception because they want to stigmatize non-Apple devices.
Literally, nobody uses that shit phone. Nothing in the world would make me want to use a phone that has an impossible-to-use UI and a camera that's in the middle of the fucking phone which waste so much good design on my case but to use a Windows phone is the lowest downgrade that I can think of on top of my head
I disagree the part when you say "as long as you are confortable with that" because you also have to make sure the ones you chat with are ok with that. I mean when using an encrypted messaging app everybody rely on the fact that the conversation is private and secure. If one can cheat with it using a third party relay then the privacy chain is lost.
To be blunt, if you wanted encrypted messages you should be using Signal for messaging. Yeah yeah don't victim blame, but regardless of which phone you like more you can't trust a for profit company with your data in this day and age.
I use Signal indeed with almost everyone in my contacts. None the less my point, I think, remains valid. Introducing a third party relay that will decrypt on your behalf and encrypt again to send the message to you is breaking the end to end encryption. So even if one is ok with that, by doing so, he will break the trust that other put in the protocol.
Yeah the fact you’re logging into a non Apple Service with your Apple ID and then gaining access to iMessage means your messages are being decrypted somewhere and then placed in iMessage.
@@anynomous11111 Not really. The Internet offers connectivity between computers but there are many ways to end to end encrypt traffic. Usually that involves some type of PKI - this clearly doesn’t use that or at least hijacks it leaving all your messages visible to a third party.
Iphone can choose to use open source messaging app like whatsapp actually... My wife used Iphone and she used whatsapp... But people in the United States refuse to do so because it has become a culture to the extent they will tell android user to buy an iphone to be able to contact each other instead of downloading whatsapp for free, which is ridiculous in my opinion...
@@AndreasGerhard1 we can all use what's app. As an android user, I use what's app way more than the default texting app. I just find it comical that they can't change something so simple after all these years. But I agree, the us consumer is brain washed
Yep, so weird. My friendship group is mostly android, my fiancée's family is all apple, my family is a mix and we all use WhatsApp. The only time I even open mt texting app is basically businesses pinging unlock codes for 2FA etc.
@@syawkcab We android user sends picture via whatsapp... Just send the pictures as files, and the picture wont lose quality... And you can use whatsapp regardless of the phone brand an OS...
Bro, the fact that I can't hear your original voice in shorts and I have to hear some random AI voiceover without letting me choose is pretty bad. I just skip them and I love your channel
This is only an issue in the US. The rest of the world doesn't care about blue or green bubbles. Heck, on Android I can make the bubble colors any color that I want!!!
What you suspect about Beeper is indeed the case. They say in the details of how it works that when you open a iMessage bridge on Beeper it spins up a MacOS VM just for you that they supposedly don't have access to, and it logs you in on that VM and that translates the iMessage to Matrix messages back and forth.
Can someone explain to me why iMessages so important? How is it in any way better than Skype, Teams, Discord, WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger, Google Chat, Viber, Kik, Signal, Telegram, etc...? As far as I can tell it has less features than all of those. Along with being tied to a single manufacturer instead of being cross-compatible on everything.
Because every phone comes pre-installed with iMessage. I can send high quality photos and files to other people who use iPhone without having to have them sign up and add me to another website.
It's an American thing. Usually in other countries the first thing people do when they purchase a new phone (android or iPhone) is to install something like whatsapp. Here in my country I know a lot of people that uses iphone and never touched iMessage.
Beeper is fantastic. I've had the app for a couple of months now, and sending pics and videos to and from apple phones is so much better. Having all the apps in one place is great, too.
I really wish regulation bulldozes Apple's gatekeeping of technological development. I'm not hopeful but it's more unrealistic to expect them to stop by themselves, also any company would do it.
it's just a messaging service that works in just Apple devices, not allowing other apps to use it would be the same as WhatsApp banning people because they were using "WhatsApp Plus" or some other version of WhatsApp. It's not a monopoly, iOS has the same amount of options as to what messaging app they want to use, people just opt out.
They can fix the issue by putting iMessages on Samsung but we already know that they know they can but they won't because they know that it would break the double and that fewer would even buy their phones. Marques already interviewed Tim and that's how we know that it's not as simple as saying “Apple can fix the issue but they won't because they are too greedy”
@@MagicToenail It's not about "switching" to RCS, it's about *supporting* it, just like how iMessage supports SMS. Apple adding RCS support would not affect current iMessage-specific features like Animoji, at all. That's simply incorrect.
That seems to be what happens, on beeper’s site it even says that the message is sent (encrypted) to their server where it is unencrypted and encrypted to Apple’s imessage protocol.
@@fr3shSwag True, which is why I said alternative to AirMessage. It, like AirMessage, uses a macOS machine, but has the capability for a lot more features compared to AirMessage
Just to make you all aware.. when you text someone from an android they will see your Apple ID email and NOT your phone number. Meaning that people will need to add your email to you contact too.
Not withe Blueubbles. But now that I think of it, of both iphone and android are out, the. Will that happen? My iPhone is always home when my android is out. I don’t have wifi calling set up on the mac that I have bluebubbles running
@@Jauhso How is that possible when on their own website/app they claim that it is not supported? I you have your main SIM card in your android it will show the email. If you have it in the iPhone you will see your phone number. If you then download the app on an android you can use it ALSO to text and it WOULD show your phone number in this way. Is that what you mean?
3 years going on air message now. Works flawlessly for me. I have an old mac laptop from 2012 just sitting plugged in. (No issues with the battery......yet. lol)
For the people saying only a US issue, I don't know of a single American with an Android that cares about this. It's just something hyped up on the internet/media, pretty normal. If live in US, internet/media does this all the time saying something is a big issue to get comments/views/ratings, but doesn't really matter. That's just how it is here.
Put my Apple ID up on someone else's server. No way. Thank you for sharing all of this information. You are quickly becoming my go to guy for tech reviews!
Bro! Disney really has broken some barriers for us as a society!!l Having a black woman be little mermaid is one thing because it’s just totally different race However… They even let this, clearly a white dude, do a voiceover for this black gentleman, even on a RUclips short!! 🙌🙌🙌
I recently spoke with a relative that's always used iPhones and it's always the iPhone user that brings it up. They lose features they like when they message an Android user. While I understand not having features handy, completely ostracizing Android users is what really boggles my mind. It's more than just blue vs green bubbles, but at the same time those features shouldn't determine a friendship.
I could care less about the color of bubbles. The funny thing is I study Cyber Security, and I was thinking that same thing about logging into your accounts while someone else is capturing that info. Lol
It’s not just the blue bubbles though. It’s all the little things like reply to a particular message, full screen effects, being able to straight up leave a group, being able to name a group and other things. I know the fault lies primarily with Apple and I’m not at all defending them but it is more than just blue vs green.
It’s crazy that this bubble topic is so huge in the US. In Europe most iPhone users use WhatsApp. Doesn’t matter if they’re writing another iPhone user or an android user.
There's actually a whole bunch of android apps in beta right now to relay imessage like this. It's kind of a race to see who gets cease-and-desisted first lmao
A service that has access to your iCloud account. Not just your messages, it’s all your emails, photos, contacts, card payments, your location, everything.
It’s not about the blue bubbles, it’s about the functionality and richness of communication inside such a simple medium as text messaging. Apple should open source iMessage.
None of my friends care so much about this, if the messages is delivered is the most important thing. Damn, we come from texting form Nokias 3010 ffs. Phone wars are stupid as fuck
I've never met anyone who cared if the text bubbles were green or blue, and I've met a lot of people... I get a feeling this is a LA-only phenomenon...
We really live in a world where your texts being green is a huge issue
I worked in a phone store it was a big issues for ppl elderly wouldn literally come in solely to change the color of the msg they didnt care they were recriving msgs they WEREN'T THE RIGHT COLOR LOL brainwashed drones
it seems to only be an issue in America
Its not a huge issue , its only an issue in the US the rest of the world does not care as they just use WhatsApp.
Yeah, the issue is only in America
Well android to android actually has a similar feature as iMessage so i have no issues.
Apple Employee: We should fix that
I failed an Apple job interview when I suggested they should be more compatible with Android
It actually sounds like a security risk because I don’t think that the iMessage API is public lol
@thecanmanification imessage is proprietary . It's dated and not a technological standard that would actually be compatible with things other than itself. They literally rewrote RCS and covered it with animations that make it seem fluid. The fact it's so limited to working well with ONLY others within iMessage is actually sad. It's not a good thing for them. Lol
@@Oatmeal. I’m saying it’s a security risk because of the signing in on someone else’s laptop part of it
@@lopypopwhy should they ? android isnt really compatible to ios either
This must be a first world issue that I am incapable of understanding😂
Apple makes their systems annoyingly incompatible with competitors so kids will shame and peer pressure others to switch over. Its not too hard to understand.
This is only a problem for Americans, because they are incapable of downloading WhatsApp
WhatsApp is basically the same as iMesaage, but it works on all phones and not just iPhone. So it's better.
As for green bubbles, they're just regular old sms text messages. They don't mean android phones are worse than iphones.
It's just the old standard of text messaging that doesn't support much more than basic text.
...but so many Americans are sooo dumb, they think "green bubbles" are the "standard" Android phone messages. And they think it means those phones are clearly much worse than iPhones... when really it's their own fault because they didn't download a messaging app like Whatsapp. IMesaage itself is nothing more than a pre-installed messaging app anyway
@@marioluigi9599in Android I only opened message app for checking OTP
@@marioluigi9599No one in America want to use Whatsapp unless we have to talk to people out of the country lol. Why are you so proud of whatsapp 😂
Aint no way I'm gonna risk my conversation being read by someone around the world for a blue bubble😂
It's fully encrypted afaik
@@cristoforestman - Pretty sure their server would need to read the plain text in order to send it through to Apple. But I don't know enough of this particular setup to say confidently.
Lol Whatsapp is so secure that many governments are protesting that they can't spy on people. US really is backwards.
Do you by any chance have pentagon top secrets? Who Would want to read your messages?
@@algeriapower7242 it doesn't matter what the contents are. We are way past the age of unsecure SMS. This service is doing a massive step back.
Apple really should just add support for RCS at this point…
@unitedgamingffarmy no, I don’t think I will
But they won’t
They won't. It is part of their marketing strategy.
You have 2 people with an iPhone, and that's all it takes for them to convince all their friends to buy phones for iMessage. Once locked in, they can't leave. Although this mainly applies in markets where iMessage is used (cough cough USA), elsewhere apps like WhatsApp level the playing field.
Apple has no incentive, or a negative incentive to being more open, so they will never do it.
Not until e2e encryption is standardized
@@TazerXI yeah, you’re absolutely right. iMessage is arguably Apple’s biggest asset right now in recruiting people to use iPhones. I just wish that they would add rcs support so that using Android phones wouldn’t be such a burden.
cool... but only people in the US care... everyone else uses whatsapp, signal, telegram etc... and can already message each other without any issues
why do you people use so many apps just to send messages?
@@poluticon Why do developers use so many IDE's? VS, JetBrains, Eclipse... Why do so many people wear different shoes? Adidas, Nike... Literally as with every question of this kind - Preference.
@@poluticon Preferences, UI, service quality...etc.
for example Telegram is really useful for sharing long form videos without issues.
Whatsapp is useful for sending simple messages and not getting clutter and still having groups.
@@shapelessedApple sheep don't want choice though
@@shapelessed I guess. People are weird, eh?
Literally discovered Beeper 3 days ago, thinking "Why hasn't Marques talked about this?" And here we are
Sameeeeeeee
I had Beeper. Seemed a little sketchy. I got rid of it. But I had it for a few days. They asked me why I was removing it, and wanted to get info to make it better. I honestly just didn't trust having all of my logins in one app. Seemed kind of unsafe.
I've heard of beeper, but I'm waiting for Sunbird to launch. Sunburn is a very similar app that's going to be consolidating many of the common messaging systems into one, including iMessage. And it shouldn't have these kinds of security issues either. It's supposed to launch to Google Play maybe this holiday season or early next year.
do you have a referral code to share?
Looks identical to Sunbird Messaging which has been around for over a year. Looks like both are a scam.
Honestly if you are a person that worries about whether or not someone has a green or blue bubble you really need to rethink life at this point. 😂
It's not about the color, it's more about how adding a android phone to a group chat means you can't send pictures anymore without them getting quality reduced
-hurt android user
@@dadillonful😂😂
Ight ima go re-think life real quick brb
@@syawkcabyou need to rethink life
What’s that obsession to be on iMessage. I use an iPhone and it has never been the primary messaging app for me and my friends who use an iPhone.
You must not live in America then. Sadly, everybody here uses imessage and nobody uses platforms like whatsapp. So Android users are shafted both functionally and socially to a degree. A really pathetic side of America that you are lucky to not have to deal with in your country
It's the last straw that apple fanboys are desperately clinging to.
When everyone else uses iMessage, being the one that doesn’t can break group chats.
I’ve had friends tell me that they didn’t invite one of our friends to a birthday dinner because they have an android phone and it would ruin the group chat we made 😑
you must be in the third world
Alt title: How to defeat end-to-end encryption’s privacy in three easy steps.
You can just turn off encryption from the app.
@@xocomaox😂😂
There’s a setting to make it so that the encryption stays on and they wont read your messages
Yes, your apple account is being used to log into a server farm somewhere. Beeper explained that somewhere along the signup process. Thats why I made a new apple account just for it.
Big brain
Yeah but they can read all your messages then.
It's also not that secure. Which makes it sorta sketchy.
@@conservativedeveloper7289 oh true lmfao
@@conservativedeveloper7289how would they even know who you are? Anyone can read your messages if you send them to another person.
The only reason why green texts are a thing is because Apple is openly hostile to being compatible with Android. There is no technical limitation preventing them from adopting RCS, but they WANT iPhone users to have a bad time when they communicate with Android phones...
Shhh don't tell that to apple users. They need to feel superior, even tho at this point iphones just copy androids from five years earlier
This. They want their users to complain to their friends about green bubbles, and try to make them buy iPhones. The bad part is that users are actually susceptible to this obviously manipulation. "You should get an iPhone." Like my message being green would actually entice me to buy into that BS 😂
This is the next thing the EU will tackle with regards to Apple.
I don't need "blue bubbles" enough to let anyone have access to my messages.
Why is everyone pretending that it’s about the color 😂
@@Zealantexactly I wanna join my friend groups
As a proud Android user I'll be dead in the ground before I use anything to simulate iMessage. I will wear those green bubbles as a badge of pride.
Bro said pride 💀
Gay
As you should! Imagine unironically using an iPhone.
actually youre not the green bubble. They are.
i dont even like apple very much but who cares
WhatsApp users couldn't care less
Nobody Should.
Nah... They just have half of their brain
But seriously, when i watch waveform channel
Looks like apple really love those high wall (airpods, usbc, etc)😂
european
Great till you swap the chip into another phone and it ‘signs you out…’
@@ComplexityUnveiled sign back in? Seems like a non -issue
Europeans be like: just get WhatsApp. Problem solved
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Same here in Africa.
@@BenCadetThePastafarian?
I am individual and I don't want to use Apple Services like the Mainstream people😂
Same here in Asia
Opening WhatsApp feels like I'm visiting a developing country
Next up in Google feed: Apple vs Beeper lawsuit over a stupid blue bubble.
Apple: this patent clearly shows we invented blue
Beeper is made by the same person that made the Pebble watch for anyone curious.
Anything requiring 3rd party server s/w or (worse) a 3rd party server opens you up to all sorts of risk.
You can check if it's server/device logging into your account. Just go into your iCloud account and look at what devices are logged in. It'll show the device type and sometimes more info depending on the device.
They could be spoofing it though.
You can also selfhost the app...
How do you think iMessage works to begin with? It goes through Apple's servers (you could argue that they are a first party server, but I only consider my servers first party).
@@xocomaox Such a service has to be bound by "something". Apple provide those servers w/o charge and with great attention to security - which is always improving.
@@AlanTheBeast100But when it's something like WhatsApp or anything made by Facebook you can't guarantee that your messages are actually encrypted and you can only take it with a grain of salt
It can be pretty annoying when you have an S23 Ultra and every single family member in your house has an iPhone haha
We all use messenger 😅. Problem solved
Good lord give up on the bubbles. I thought by now we'd be over this as a species.
Na the species will die before the bubbles controversy ends lol
Americans be like „Oh no, we can’t figure out how to use another text messaging app than the stock one… green bubbles… oh no.“
And the rest of the world: WhatsApp? Telegram? Signal? -.-
Discord.
At this point even instagram works
Even though he only focused on iMessage, you can actually use all those apps within beeper. I can say from experience its a whole lot more convenient when all your messages from all your apps are compiled in one place
People from every country are like that not just Americans
FB messenger is very popular in Europe too
Caring about the "bubble color" in your texts is a brain disease.
Blue bubbles is a pretty good alt to air message. Beeper is amazing. Took a year to get off the wait-list but so worth it
Loving beeper myself
Are you using it for imessage or other apps? If for imessages.. how good is the security regarding giving ur icloud login to their macs?
Apple has gone well beyond whatever was rational to keep a majority of users tied to the iPhone, including this version of techno-shame.
But when people - Apple and Android users alike - begin compromising their personal security to bypass the techno-shame placed upon them, Apple should ask themselves some deep questions, reflect on the answers, and act accordingly...
This is a good point. If _one_ of the people in the conversation is using a third-party server, both parties' messages will be visible. So yeah, Apple is subjecting their own users to interception because they want to stigmatize non-Apple devices.
Who the hell still sends SMS messages? It's 2023.
Thats on apple not android.
Pretty much all of USA
Apple users to Android. Until Apple adopts RCS we are stuck here. Apple needs to fix their problem.
@@christopherveverka1531 Actually the people, just use WhatsApp, Telegram, Discord, Slack, etc.
Funneling all your messaging platforms through one company’s servers sounds like a privacy nightmare.
You’ve just described every popular messaging service.
Not me crying while watching on my windows phone
Just kidding who even has a Windows phone😂
Literally, nobody uses that shit phone. Nothing in the world would make me want to use a phone that has an impossible-to-use UI and a camera that's in the middle of the fucking phone which waste so much good design on my case but to use a Windows phone is the lowest downgrade that I can think of on top of my head
@@MagicToenail which is why I said just kidding who even has a windows phone🤦♂️
Bro went on a tangent over Windows Phone 🤣
Did it hurt you that bad?
I disagree the part when you say "as long as you are confortable with that" because you also have to make sure the ones you chat with are ok with that.
I mean when using an encrypted messaging app everybody rely on the fact that the conversation is private and secure. If one can cheat with it using a third party relay then the privacy chain is lost.
To be blunt, if you wanted encrypted messages you should be using Signal for messaging. Yeah yeah don't victim blame, but regardless of which phone you like more you can't trust a for profit company with your data in this day and age.
I use Signal indeed with almost everyone in my contacts.
None the less my point, I think, remains valid. Introducing a third party relay that will decrypt on your behalf and encrypt again to send the message to you is breaking the end to end encryption.
So even if one is ok with that, by doing so, he will break the trust that other put in the protocol.
You basically just said what he said. To be comfortable with that you have to know if it's encrypted and when you do then you are comfortable
Those graphics are so professional. Makes me want to learn new editing techniques for my channel.
Beeper rules, not because of the imessage thing, but having discord next to regular messages is a game changer
Yeah the fact you’re logging into a non Apple Service with your Apple ID and then gaining access to iMessage means your messages are being decrypted somewhere and then placed in iMessage.
That's literally how the internet works.
@@anynomous11111 Not really. The Internet offers connectivity between computers but there are many ways to end to end encrypt traffic. Usually that involves some type of PKI - this clearly doesn’t use that or at least hijacks it leaving all your messages visible to a third party.
It's crazy how people will fight to stick with a phone in which you can't even choose which color bubble the responses in your texts are.
Iphone can choose to use open source messaging app like whatsapp actually... My wife used Iphone and she used whatsapp... But people in the United States refuse to do so because it has become a culture to the extent they will tell android user to buy an iphone to be able to contact each other instead of downloading whatsapp for free, which is ridiculous in my opinion...
@@AndreasGerhard1 we can all use what's app. As an android user, I use what's app way more than the default texting app. I just find it comical that they can't change something so simple after all these years. But I agree, the us consumer is brain washed
Yep, so weird. My friendship group is mostly android, my fiancée's family is all apple, my family is a mix and we all use WhatsApp. The only time I even open mt texting app is basically businesses pinging unlock codes for 2FA etc.
The main issue is you can't send images in a sms chat without them getting very garbled
@@syawkcab We android user sends picture via whatsapp... Just send the pictures as files, and the picture wont lose quality... And you can use whatsapp regardless of the phone brand an OS...
Bro, the fact that I can't hear your original voice in shorts and I have to hear some random AI voiceover without letting me choose is pretty bad. I just skip them and I love your channel
This is only an issue in the US. The rest of the world doesn't care about blue or green bubbles. Heck, on Android I can make the bubble colors any color that I want!!!
Now we need RCS on iPhone
You can get rcs on iPhone with beeper
BlueBubbles is my personal favorite over AirMessage
It's way more well done. I use it too
Me too
Blue is just so pretty. I don't really like green
I use bluebubbles as well on an unused MacBook.. works perfect
Ain't airmessage just Bluetooth tho?
What you suspect about Beeper is indeed the case. They say in the details of how it works that when you open a iMessage bridge on Beeper it spins up a MacOS VM just for you that they supposedly don't have access to, and it logs you in on that VM and that translates the iMessage to Matrix messages back and forth.
imagine worrying about the color of bubbles bruh, this is basically bringing the "upper-class" bs back from olden times
For me, It’s really only an annoyance when trying to create a group chat (just usually end up using discord), otherwise it’s a non issue
Can someone explain to me why iMessages so important?
How is it in any way better than Skype, Teams, Discord, WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger, Google Chat, Viber, Kik, Signal, Telegram, etc...? As far as I can tell it has less features than all of those. Along with being tied to a single manufacturer instead of being cross-compatible on everything.
don't need an account, privacy, more reliable
Because every phone comes pre-installed with iMessage. I can send high quality photos and files to other people who use iPhone without having to have them sign up and add me to another website.
@@unoriginalname3442 ever heard of WhatsApp... does the same thing
@@unoriginalname3442WhatsApp isn't preinstalled and is 1st place in almost every market not the US or China.
It's an American thing. Usually in other countries the first thing people do when they purchase a new phone (android or iPhone) is to install something like whatsapp.
Here in my country I know a lot of people that uses iphone and never touched iMessage.
Beeper is fantastic. I've had the app for a couple of months now, and sending pics and videos to and from apple phones is so much better. Having all the apps in one place is great, too.
I absolutely love how everyone who knows anything about cybersecurity was screaming at everyone not to do this at all.
I really wish regulation bulldozes Apple's gatekeeping of technological development. I'm not hopeful but it's more unrealistic to expect them to stop by themselves, also any company would do it.
A false sense of superiority is the only thing keeping apple going, they stopped innovating a decade ago
How is iMessage not considered a monopoly?
It is, nobody is doing anything about it though.
because it's not
it's just a messaging service that works in just Apple devices, not allowing other apps to use it would be the same as WhatsApp banning people because they were using "WhatsApp Plus" or some other version of WhatsApp.
It's not a monopoly, iOS has the same amount of options as to what messaging app they want to use, people just opt out.
don't know why tho. I'm not "defending" it, I think that's stupid that some care so much for the blue bubbles, but whatever
Bc there's Whatsapp, Telegram, Signal and others
MKBHD - Suggestion: Have you ever considered reading audio books for money? I think you have a good voice for this.
Love Beeper! Cool to see you cover it.
I'm really enjoying Beeper these days!
Same. Sunbird is nice too but beeper is so much better
@@xero1022 it's rough but I value the convenience of not having to keep my mac on with something like airdroid
Meh, I love when iphone users pick fights with me over green bubbles. Theyre never ready for what comes next haha
What comes next? A video about RCS?
@@perrywaaz3660😂😂😂
Great Loop holes 😂😂..I'm pretty sure apple won't be happy about this😂😂
I always watch the videos... and today I had a surprise, dubbed and subtitled! Congratulations
Apple can fix this issue,but they don't want to because they want people to buy iPhones. That's so Greedy smh
Why would a company just give away their USP? of course they wouldn't lol
They can fix the issue by putting iMessages on Samsung but we already know that they know they can but they won't because they know that it would break the double and that fewer would even buy their phones. Marques already interviewed Tim and that's how we know that it's not as simple as saying “Apple can fix the issue but they won't because they are too greedy”
Why would I want to? I mean most Android phones use RCS so that means Apple is the odd one out 😂
Apple is not the odd one out. I heard somewhere that if they do switch to RCS then they would lose Animoji and a lot of what they have built
not the animojis i cant think of a time where ive ever used them lol
@@MagicToenail
@@MagicToenailApple to Apple won't lose anything whoever told you that doesn't know what they're talking about
@@MagicToenail It's not about "switching" to RCS, it's about *supporting* it, just like how iMessage supports SMS. Apple adding RCS support would not affect current iMessage-specific features like Animoji, at all. That's simply incorrect.
That seems to be what happens, on beeper’s site it even says that the message is sent (encrypted) to their server where it is unencrypted and encrypted to Apple’s imessage protocol.
What is a MAC? What is a blue bubble? I am sure a whole nation can back me on this, "We Do Not Care!" 😂😂😂😂
A better alternative to AirMessage would be BlueBubbles in my opinion. They have a nicer looking UI, and seemingly more abilities
macOS required
@@fr3shSwag True, which is why I said alternative to AirMessage. It, like AirMessage, uses a macOS machine, but has the capability for a lot more features compared to AirMessage
I use bluebubbles and love it
@@fr3shSwagMac also required for airmessage
Just to make you all aware.. when you text someone from an android they will see your Apple ID email and NOT your phone number. Meaning that people will need to add your email to you contact too.
Not withe Blueubbles. But now that I think of it, of both iphone and android are out, the. Will that happen? My iPhone is always home when my android is out. I don’t have wifi calling set up on the mac that I have bluebubbles running
That's not true.
I've been using beeper for almost 2 years, and iMessage shows up as my android phone number, not my email. Just fyi.
@@Jauhso How is that possible when on their own website/app they claim that it is not supported? I you have your main SIM card in your android it will show the email. If you have it in the iPhone you will see your phone number. If you then download the app on an android you can use it ALSO to text and it WOULD show your phone number in this way. Is that what you mean?
@@DanielGuzman83How? How do you get it to use your number
Been following beeper for a while, excited to see it get a shout out!
RUclips is dubbing you in shorts but not in videos. I have all disabled and it happens only in your shorts, other creators are fine.
Now my sheeples have even less power
3 years going on air message now. Works flawlessly for me. I have an old mac laptop from 2012 just sitting plugged in. (No issues with the battery......yet. lol)
Does the video and photos go through without compressing it into a digitized mess? That's the only reason for me to do this but I do have an old mac
privacy concerns.
Me waiting for the Beeper waitlist:
Apple putting the call in to their engineers:
Apple: destroy this developer!
Or force Apple to support RCS. I like that option.
Nothing comes to clutch here 😂
i propose that we all just switch over to line, i can't live with those stickers lmao
I'll keep my android rcms chat or Whatsapp, but thanks 😊
Snapped up that hot idea in a mere 16 years
Reminded me of BBM back in a day when there was non of today’s messaging apps!
For the people saying only a US issue, I don't know of a single American with an Android that cares about this. It's just something hyped up on the internet/media, pretty normal. If live in US, internet/media does this all the time saying something is a big issue to get comments/views/ratings, but doesn't really matter. That's just how it is here.
So glad this bubble thing isn't a issue in any other country but USA. Here in Brazil we default the WhatsApp/Telegram
People who care about this must have nothing else to worry about in life.
Apple just makes everything complicated.
Put my Apple ID up on someone else's server. No way. Thank you for sharing all of this information. You are quickly becoming my go to guy for tech reviews!
Bro! Disney really has broken some barriers for us as a society!!l
Having a black woman be little mermaid is one thing because it’s just totally different race
However…
They even let this, clearly a white dude, do a voiceover for this black gentleman, even on a RUclips short!! 🙌🙌🙌
"The text green, are you jealous or mental?" 😂
This looks like a few extra steps to message someone with an iPhone when I could be using Whatsapp the whole time.
I recently spoke with a relative that's always used iPhones and it's always the iPhone user that brings it up. They lose features they like when they message an Android user. While I understand not having features handy, completely ostracizing Android users is what really boggles my mind. It's more than just blue vs green bubbles, but at the same time those features shouldn't determine a friendship.
Alien Invasion one fine day.
Alien: Green bubble or blue bubble.
Human: Blue.
Alien: Catch this dude, need to examine his malfunctioning brain.
I could care less about the color of bubbles. The funny thing is I study Cyber Security, and I was thinking that same thing about logging into your accounts while someone else is capturing that info. Lol
This is such a pain if your elderly parents are Apple and your Android. ☹️
If Marcus lived anywhere outside the US/Canada, he would have one less video to upload 😅
The fact that everything, including message colors and Groupchats could work perfectly across platforms but apple doesn't let it happen is just sad.
everything you talk about is everything I need right at the moment. amazing
It’s not just the blue bubbles though. It’s all the little things like reply to a particular message, full screen effects, being able to straight up leave a group, being able to name a group and other things. I know the fault lies primarily with Apple and I’m not at all defending them but it is more than just blue vs green.
It’s crazy that this bubble topic is so huge in the US. In Europe most iPhone users use WhatsApp. Doesn’t matter if they’re writing another iPhone user or an android user.
There's actually a whole bunch of android apps in beta right now to relay imessage like this. It's kind of a race to see who gets cease-and-desisted first lmao
If it’s a server thing elsewhere you should interview the developers
The rest of the world doesn’t really care about what Color your message bubbles are as long as they are from WhatsApp
I like the blue bubble in the green bubble, because most scammers text with an android and an iPhone
A service that has access to your iCloud account. Not just your messages, it’s all your emails, photos, contacts, card payments, your location, everything.
Crazy how a color of a message is crucial in today’s world. They both get the same message across
It’s not about the blue bubbles, it’s about the functionality and richness of communication inside such a simple medium as text messaging. Apple should open source iMessage.
None of my friends care so much about this, if the messages is delivered is the most important thing. Damn, we come from texting form Nokias 3010 ffs.
Phone wars are stupid as fuck
Is your camera tilted sideways for these vert videos?
Sunbird is also something like that right? I read something about that too but i don’t know anything about release dates so far
When did Marques voice changed to a tts voice in Portuguese??
I've never met anyone who cared if the text bubbles were green or blue, and I've met a lot of people... I get a feeling this is a LA-only phenomenon...