Got the P1 3.0 on Friday thanks for the discount code I managed to get the Tron edition for almost the same price as the standard edition so a massive thank you RG
I purchased the P1 2.0 almost solely on your recommendation ... and boy am I glad I did. We weigh 235 lbs and carry an extra external battery and tools, etc., for a total rider weight of around 260 lbs. It still does 36 mph on the level and 40-43 mph down hill. The only thing that went wrong was the right turn signal got stuck in on mode. The P1 3.0 addresses everything we would have ask for. I am not a relative of Solar or RG. lol
I have Solar P1 2.0 and I need some advice on maintenance. My headset bearings need to be replaced as they are very worn. What is the type and size of bearing I need? I have searched far and wide and cannot find this information anywhere.
This is a dangerous channel! Been riding an underpowered 350w Amazon scooter (now my wife's) to run my dog. At 260lbs, I can only get up hills by kicking. Seems like scooters are developing quickly. I'm tempted to spend $440 for an iscooter iX3 (800w, 48V) and consider it disposable after 1-2 years and choose something that fits me at that time. That is the lowest for price and quality i could get by with. Or go nuts and get this Solar! The logic being this has more than enough and anything more would be dangerous for me. When I was under 40, I would have wanted to go as fast as I could. Now I'm just an old fat guy that wants to go up hills.... and misses the thrill of his skateboarding years. Being older with injuries that don't get better, the solar seems like a luxury choice and sets the ceiling for my search. Thanks for the content, you're raising my expectations and budget. (Hence the danger!)
@@LampDoesVideogame it's a cheap amazon scooter for my 98lb wife. For her, it's good enough. That's why I started looking for a scooter for me, and settled on the P1 3.0. The P1 has met all of my requirements.
ty for all the reviews it help me so much to make my decision!!!just got this scooter i've been watching for the last 6 months for the price it's going to be great for me!!!living in San Franciso this is going to be awesome!!!
Just got mine today! Man oh man! This is the best scooter for the money…period! $1359 no seat I’m 150lbs and got 45mph with a full charge 🤣🤣🤣Solar yall did yall thing with this one! I’m charging it now so I can see those Tron Lights!
Would it be possible to create a tier list of all the electric scooters? Would love to see a video where you talk about each scooter real time and speak honestly about them then dragging them into the S, A, B, C, F tier categories
I don’t like to rank scooters because I’d be ranking them by how much I like them, and I might like different things than you like. To me, the most important thing I do is to find what each scooter does best and worst and then the audience can decide whether those are the things which are important to them. Even the “worst scooter we’ve ever reviewed” the MacWheel pro, has one thing it did very well. At the time it was the most range per dollar you could buy. So if someone really didn’t care about ride quality or being able to read the dashboard, but needed max range per dollar, the “worst scooter” could be a good choice for that person. But it’s a very narrow use case, because that scooter really sucks to ride. :-) -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I completely understand your take on this. Putting a scooter at C tier while someone that loves their scooter watching would be sad lol.
It’s been a while but I think the hack was adding an extra washer to the front end between the forks and the wheel to make the axle width match the fork width a little better. All forks work best if they’re exactly parallel when bolted down and this one was pinching inward by a couple mm at the bottom, which was causing more resistance in the fork movement. I expect that they have optimized this by now on the new ones. -Paul
As a fellow San Franciscan, what hill are you considering the 'steepest'? This certainly does not look like Bradford at Tompkins or Filbert at Leavenworth.
That's a great question. It occurred to me after we shot this that the Apollo City would have been another good one to include here. It's a bit more expensive at $1,649 but a really nice scooter, especially the 2023 version. The IP rating (water resistance) is sky high at IP66, but performance is a fair amount lower at 31mph top speed, and similar for hill climbing power. That said, the fit and finish of the Apollo City feels superior. -Paul
Nice video. This scooter seems like a very worthy replacement for my Emove Cruiser. The seat and adjustable handlebar stem make this worth looking at, and I certainly would welcome the greater power.
Thanks getting this one out, Paul. I've been vacillating between the EQ & 2.0/3.0. Mitchell said Solar rides are kinda janky on his channel, but you used the word "hands-on." Voro Motors has a cool video on how to mod the type of handlebars the 3.0 has, since the EMove Cruiser has them. I enjoy tinkering, so it's decided! Oh yea, did you post the suspension hack here?
Yeah, since I’m a hands-on guy I really like being able to tweak and tune a little. This reminds me a lot of my first sports car when I was a teenager. It has a nice balance of power and handling. The hack I found was that there is an extra washer on the inside of the right fork (between the fork and the bearings) that spreads the fork out too wide and causes it to bind a little. So for me what worked was: unbolt brake caliper using the sideways facing bolts, unbolt front wheel, slide it out of the fork, remove the double washer on the right axle (the side with the brake rotor) put it back on, (now way easier to install). The left side only has one washer to begin with. When you reassemble you need to re-set the brake caliper location, but that’s a good idea any time you take the wheels off. You do that by loosening the other two bolts that hold the brake caliper to the caliper mount, slide everything into place. Then after the wheel is installed and tight, and the brake caliper bracket is bolted to the forks: squeeze the brake lever and the caliper will line itself up. Then tighten the caliper bolts that point down toward the axle and the caliper will end up aligned to the rotor. It helps to tighten a little at a time so it stays aligned while tightening. -Paul
Great channel and awesome review. I just ordered a P1 3.0 and am still waiting for it to come in. You mentioned the issue with the handle bar grips being loose and spinning. Do you happen to know whether or not Solar has fixed that issue and/or made an update regarding that yet?
had to sell my Nami E2 after i broke my shoulder, this is exactly what i need, perfect for me as i need the seat. but as i dont have as much strength in my right arm, i would need to move the throttle to the left maybe?
It really takes very little input from your right arm. If you’re comfortable resting your hand on the grip, you might be ok with right side throttle. You can also swap the cables to put the stronger brake (front brake) with your stronger hand (left hand), since the front brake is usually on the right. -Paul
65-67lbs? Their site said only 55lbs. Glad I waited for a full review. Not an upgrade option for me with that weight and range but probably great for others.
Yes, 67.2 lbs on the RG scale, without seat and 73.8lbs with the seat. I've been meaning to let them know about that typo on their site. I just sent them a message. Thank you for the reminder. -Paul
We tend to do two types of content a First Look where we get our first impressions and then a Full Review after we’ve tested it and know the range, top speed and all the little details. -Paul
Yes, as far as we know. Even on smaller scooters like the Unagi Voyager. The Unagi app lets you know that you get longer range in dual motor than single. The caveat is that if you run single motor, you'll probably ride slower, so you may get more range for that reason. But, if you rode dual motor side-by-side with a scooter in single-motor mode, at the same speed and same acceleration, then you'd get the same or more range on the one running dual motor. But, if you can't resist mashing the throttle :-) riding in dual motor can sometimes tempt you to ride in an innefficient way. -Paul
Nice Video! I've poured hundreds of hours of research into Electric Scooters and you are a really big help RG. Just one thing, does your scooter last longer with LG cells and preform better? I've heard of a lot of failures with Generic Cells. Thank you for everything.
is the emove cruiser like this one? How is the range compared? I know this one is faster. Is this good for commutes? Do you know if the emove cruiser plan to release a 2024 version? or a new one in general to compete with this?
The EMOVE Cruiser doesn't have as much acceleration, and has a much larger battery so it has a lot more range. Our tested range for the EMOVE Cruiser S was 43.6 miles vs 27.7 for the Solar P1 3.0 (I did both tests). The Cruiser tends to update every year, and it feels due for a larger update, but I don't know what's coming for the Cruiser in 2024 yet. -Paul
I believe that the final version of the Apollo Go when it comes out in 6 months will be best value in the sub $1300 segment. Top speed will only be around 28mph. However, it will have acceleration similar to the bigger city pro with a better more integrated design unlike anything in the segment. Plus it will be nearly 18 lbs lighter than the Solar P1 3.0 with narrower handlbars than the city pro allowing for better portability. It will become like the new Apple 15inch MacBook air. The best possible scooter, with the best form factor, feature list, and usability for the money for an everyday person.
@RiderGuide Hey Paul! 👋 Yes Eloi and team are doing an amazing job at bringing the best parts of the Apollo Pro down market to a top-tier entry level do it all scooter. My only request from them would be to stick to 10inch tires instead of moving down to 9 inch tires.
Good eye! It’s true that any scooter with handlebars that extend and fold the way these do, is not a completely original scooter, but a customized version of something that already existed. The difference is the level of customization: sine-wave controllers, tubeless tires with sealant, lights, and accessories. But more importantly, things like the two year warranty, parts that ship from Los Angeles, spares available on the website and how quickly the scooter arrives once ordered. :-) -Paul
Good video just missed talk about the suspension i have horrible streets on my city and would like to know how it works on bad streets glad yoy can talk about it!
It's really pretty good. The front is a bit stiffer than optimal, but these tubeless tires have huge sidewalls that do a pretty good job of soaking up the bumps. The one place I really appreciate the stiff front suspension is when I'm hammering the brakes. In the performance section of the video I do several passes of maximum braking and you can see that the front end doesn't dive and the whole scooter is very composed. (except that one time I overdid it and the rear wheel came up, but that was my fault for using too much brake!) -Paul
What’s the hack for the suspension? I have the EQ and it’s the same suspension. Also is it possible to upgrade the rear suspension with an air shock or coil suspension if yes then what’s the size? Thanks
On this particular unit, the hack I found was that the fork was spread too wide at the bottom and was binding a little. There were two washers on the inside of the right fork (between the fork and the bearings) that spread the forks out too wide and caused it to bind a little. So for me what worked was: unbolt brake caliper using the sideways facing bolts, unbolt front wheel, slide it out of the fork, remove the double washer on the right axle (the side with the brake rotor) put it back on, (now way easier to install). The left side only has one washer to begin with. When you reassemble you need to re-set the brake caliper location, but that’s a good idea any time you take the wheels off. You do that by loosening the other two bolts that hold the brake caliper to the caliper mount, slide everything into place. Then after the wheel is installed and tight, and the brake caliper bracket is bolted to the forks: squeeze the brake lever and the caliper will line itself up. Then tighten the caliper bolts that point down toward the axle and the caliper will end up aligned to the rotor. It helps to tighten a little at a time so it stays aligned while tightening. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Now do u know if it’s possible to upgrade the rear shock with air suspension or coil? If so do u have an idea of the size I’ll need? Thanks Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide It’s okay but I think it could be better. A5 has an air suspension that I want to try but I’m not sure of the size. Maybe 125mm? Idk lol. I wish I knew of an upgrade for the front suspension. I haven’t seen anything that looks compatible.
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuidefor those of us that bought this scooter on your recommendation but don’t have the expertise to make these adjustments, is there anywhere in LA that can help?
just ordered it for 1170 dollars had the 2.0 2 yrs ago, but it got punctured and mashed up so never touched it after January 2023 lol this scooter was a beast cant wait to use it again in a few days
i have put the solid bar kit on my solar p12.0 so its got no folding one anymore so i can put wider bars on now and wake stem so it looks a bit like he p1 pro now and i have put some wolf king front lights on it aswell so its finally getting there
They’re very different scooters, the phantom is definitely more refined and has more of a high end feel. The Phantom has a stiffer stem, smoother but more floaty suspension, dedicated regen brake and an app. The P1 3.0 is a little sportier and easier to customize. The Phantom usually costs a fair amount more. At their typical prices they are both equivalently good values. -Paul
I was about to say “yes” because of the adjustable bars, but then I looked up the max bar height and it’s only 37.5 inches, which is too low for you. The P1 Pro has 40.75” tall bars. That scooter will fit you much better, but it’s a bit heavier. Here’s the review. -Paul ruclips.net/video/MGbsZDsZaOk/видео.htmlsi=vt-rlN_GBpKalbro
Look for any gaps, especially where water can flow down a cable and into the deck. Also the throttle assemblies sometimes have gaps which can be filled. The tough one is the trigger itself, if the trigger opening goes into the electronics area (it doesn't always). If there is an opening at the trigger than the only solution for heavy rain is super goofy and maybe even a little dangerous, which is to put a sandwich bag over the throttle. I'd be worried about it somehow making the throttle stick though. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuideshould I not be afraid to put silicone all over my scooter? Will it not get inside the cracks? Also what has been your experience with removing the silicone? And what type of silicone would you recommend? Thanks for the video. I've been looking out for it!
Hi @@shloimy , silicone is pretty innocuous stuff. Mainly just pick the color you like: clear or black and go for it. Don’t put it on things that are supposed to move, of course, like the throttle lever, wheel bearing seals, and the moving parts of the stem. Mainly it’s just where wires enter and exit the deck. You can really jam it into the gaps. It’s not going to do anything bad if a little gets inside the deck. Wipe off the excess before it dries because it’s much much harder to remove once fully dry. For the trigger, it gets tricky. You can’t seal around the trigger itself because it needs to move. Most triggers are mounted outside of the area in the display where the electronics are. I haven’t looked closely at how the trigger connects to the P1 3.0 display. I’ve heard of people just popping a sandwich bag over the trigger for crazy storms , but that seems dicey to me because what if it gets caught and sticks your throttle on. That’s a good time to remember that pretty much all scooters will cut throttle if you apply brake! But better not to get into that situation in the first place of course. -Paul
Loosen the axle, see if the forks are being pinched inward by the mounting bolts. If the forks sit wider than the wheel spacers when it’s unbolted (air gap between fork and spacers when the axle bolts are loose) then you may need to add a thin washer to each side on the axle inward of the forks. Basically you want the forks not to pinch inward when you tighten them down. The more straight they are, the more parallel they are and the smoother they will move. -Paul
My question is now that you reviewed & tested the solar p1 3.0 & EQ are they replacing any of the scooters on your recent best electric scooters list or stay as an honorable mention?
Funny, I usually notice what Eduardo uses in the background, but even though I’ve watched it 10 times, I can’t remember, other than that he used it for the intro. -Paul
How does riding a seated scooter compare to riding a (seated) e-bike? What are the differences in comfort and stability? Does the scooter seat post have a lot of flex?
@RiderGuide Well, how does this Solar feel. Does the seat post feel pretty solid? Sway-proof? Did you feel safe riding in the seated position? You can't use your legs the same way you can on a bike.
The thing I love about this seat post is the complete lack of side to side flex. I hate it when the seats have two springs and wobble side to side. This one definitely doesn't do that. It's not quite as stable as an e-bike because of the smaller tires, but it's one of the best riding seated scooters I've tried other than the ones which are seated-only like the RoadRunner V2. -Paul
Correct me if im wrong but the range (30mi) is due to battery 52V -18Ah DUAL motor 2400W scooter weight 55Lbs rider/scooter weight and how fast you be traveling... my son has inokim oxo the controller shows range (68mi) 57.6V - 26Ah 2300W dual motor scooter weight 74Lbs
Does anyone remember the solar Q1 if so does anyone remember wot it was selling for. The reason I'm asking because it's been discontinued. And there's a used one come up for sale
I can’t wait. The calculated peak power is slightly lower than the Roadster, but I’m sure the 7260R is ridiculously fast! We don’t have one coming our way yet, but we’ll get one. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuideI got one last month and it really is nice for the price, with a few quirks but nothing major tho, I’m sure they’ll get it sorted out in the next gen
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuideat first you can’t use it unless you update it, mine stopped half way so it took me the entire day to try and figure out what was going on, couldn’t really figure it out myself so I contacted the Chinese head quarters to help me out, long story short they got it done in 10 minutes (which it can get very frustrating for not techies like myself real fast), the NFC came broken but I got that one fix quite easy with some glue, any how, my biggest gripe with the mini is the deck, at first glance it may seem big enough but it ain’t, somehow it just feels so short for long period riding, the brakes are great, the power is awesome, the suspension really adds up, the lighting, everything just works, just those two small little perks but nothing major, I’m sure if you gave it a try you would agree that one could easily make it to the top of the list specially at the selling price of around 1400 bucks, which is ridiculously cheap when you think about it since minimotors had an input in the design I believe
Okay, I've finally received my P1 3.0 a week and a half ago, and I absolutely love it. However, the light switch broke on me making it impossible to turn the lights off. Solar sent me a replacement switch, which I installed and it worked great; but after my last night ride, the switch broke again leaving me in the same predicament. Have you or anyone else experienced this? And if so, what was your fix? Because I really think the light switch needs to be redesigned to something a bit more sturdy. I'd love to know your thoughts.
I bought the P1 3.0 in early March, what does the one red bar on the battery level indicator mean? I have also notice the miles have been at 3 for awhile and I have driven enough to add miles but it hasn't changed.
i was suggested just now in your comments by you to check this one out. i see its good at climbing, however im fairly heavier than you. im around 127-130 kg so i doubt it would carry me up there.
The Dualtron X Limited has bars 39.75" above the deck and an optional seat. The next highest I know of that for sure has a seat is the EMOVE Cruiser. But I'm sure there are others. -Paul
Although I don't ride anymore,from my experience you'll want a scooter with an adjustable stem(steering pole). My Dualtron ultra stem was too high for a seat but my Speedway 4 Pro (adjustable stem) was perfect with the seat. Most adjustable stem scooters are gonna have around the same height from deck to bars.
Wow such a prompt reply. Thanks Paul. At 39.75 that would feel quite low to me standing wise. I’m almost 6’5” and I found the Nami Klima was about as low as I’d like to go. I don’t really need that powerful a scooter and liked the regen and throttle on the Apollo Phantom, but the lower stem was a bit of a turn-off as well as the non-tubeless tires. Will be interested to see next year if you review the redesigned Explorer to see what handlebar height that is from the parallel foot pads 😮. I was thinking the Solar might have a taller adjustable stem scooter in their lineup. Oh well.
@@MrBalas3 The NAMI scooters have the tallest bars of any scooters we’ve tested other than the Inmotion RS, which is 43.25 in its default position (but can be adjusted lower). Some of the new Apollo scooters are pretty tall too, like the City Pro 2023. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuideAgreed in regards to Nami. I tried the E-Burn2 at Fluid Free rides in S.F. as well as the Klima but that was even more excessive off the line than the Klima. Granted I hadn’t yet understood about changing the power levels of the scooter so who knows what they had it on. InMotion was extremely helpful in finding heights of their handlebars. The chat on their website actually in real time sent me pictures with them measuring the handlebar height and deck size on two of their scooters (the RS and S1). They really went above and beyond what I was expecting from a chat. I liked also at least in videos how the scooter didn’t look so excessively high off the ground. Alas no optional sear with that one. So much for wanting the best of both worlds. Also, the Nami and RS are really to expensive and powerful for my needs(or more like fears of crashing). Thanks again.
I hate when things are labeled as "under" a certain amount, when in reality the price is usually a penny away from the price in the title. It's misleading at best. Shipping and taxes will always increase the price over list price.
Saying it's the fastest under $1,299.99 doesn't fit as well in the thumbnail photo. Shipping is free, so for those living in states like Oregon where there's no sales tax, you can actually get one to your door for $1,299.99 What title would you have used for this video? We're always looking for new ideas. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I think most consumers equate $1299.99 to $1300, so just call it that. "41 MPH Scooter for $1300!" is still a great, informative title that doesn't mislead the viewer and still drives engagement.
Every scooter of this style is in some way a customized version of another scooter. It's always a question of how carefully the brand has spec'd out the scooter. For example, the sinewave controllers, the lighting package, tubeless tires, the sealant in the tires, available accessories etc. The other big thing is the warranty, and that they stock parts in Los Angeles. We don't tend to ask brands about their supply chain other than whether battery cells are brand name or not. -Paul
hi Paul, do you know if solar has a mobile app? i haven’t seen one. it would b cool to as to manage my p1 3.0 scooter on my iphone. if not what app would you recommend i use to view gps or mph on my phone while riding? thx
The hack I found was that there is an extra washer on the inside of the right fork (between the fork and the bearings) that spreads the fork out too wide and causes it to bind a little. So for me what worked was: unbolt brake caliper using the sideways facing bolts, unbolt front wheel, slide it out of the fork, remove the double washer on the right axle (the side with the brake rotor) put it back on, (now way easier to install). The left side only has one washer to begin with. When you reassemble you need to re-set the brake caliper location, but that’s a good idea any time you take the wheels off. You do that by loosening the other two bolts that hold the brake caliper to the caliper mount, slide everything into place. Then after the wheel is installed and tight, and the brake caliper bracket is bolted to the forks: squeeze the brake lever and the caliper will line itself up. Then tighten the caliper bolts that point down toward the axle and the caliper will end up aligned to the rotor. It helps to tighten a little at a time so it stays aligned while tightening. -Paul
Hello thank you so much for your video's, I am new to scooters. I am looking for a scooter that I can ride my wife on the back (she will not ride one). I was ready to get the Emove Crusier S because of the deck size but someone in the thread mentioned the Solar P1 3.0 would be an upgrade. As long as I can go 25mph speed doesn't make a difference to me. As a rookie would appreciate some professional input. Thanks again, look forward to more great content
Ip54 is not very good and I see they kept the fenders which are far too short. you will get a lot of water and dirt sprayed up your backside from ankle to head (and I'm 6'4"). I've been driving the 2.0 for months in the PNW.
On this particular unit, the hack I found was that the fork was spread too wide at the bottom and was binding a little. There were two washers on the inside of the right fork (between the fork and the bearings) that spread the forks out too wide and caused it to bind a little. So for me what worked was: unbolt brake caliper using the sideways facing bolts, unbolt front wheel, slide it out of the fork, remove the double washer on the right axle (the side with the brake rotor) put it back on, (now way easier to install). The left side only has one washer to begin with. When you reassemble you need to re-set the brake caliper location, but that’s a good idea any time you take the wheels off. You do that by loosening the other two bolts that hold the brake caliper to the caliper mount, slide everything into place. Then after the wheel is installed and tight, and the brake caliper bracket is bolted to the forks: squeeze the brake lever and the caliper will line itself up. Then tighten the caliper bolts that point down toward the axle and the caliper will end up aligned to the rotor. It helps to tighten a little at a time so it stays aligned while tightening. -Paul
Thanks Paul! that was ver nice of you to detail. however am new to scooters and would have no clue how to do what you suggested lol…i would probly mess up the scooter if i attempt that me mechanical hack… maybe after i learn more ill try it. i thought would be simpler. thank you my friend for replying and providing instructions. love your videos!
Omg! This is so hard to pick! The GX2 is $1200 with discount. Is 5MPH more worth, $300? Some part of me feels like EMove Cruise will come out with a new scooter that does 40 MPH with the same awesome range. How do you decide, wait or pull de trigger?
The GX2 and P1 3.0 are both great, but very different. I really like both for different reasons. The P1 3.0 is way more flexible and easy to mod and tune. You can tune the throttle response, regen brake response. The GX2 is more of a black box, you get what you get. But what you get is also pretty good right out of the box. The P1 3.0 is all together sportier, the GX2 is a cleaner build and will have less fasteners to look after. It’s a tough one! -Paul
How the heck do you expect them to put out so much content with one person? It's silly Plus, we love the other dudes. All my favorite scooter reviewers under one roof!
Wanna know what would be even better than 3 different people giving 3 different reviews and perspectives that one of the other 2 may not have noticed or cared about??? Going and spending $$$$ and making your own review videos so then we can all critise you.
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So what was the front suspension hack that was supposed to be in the comments??
Great review! Thank you for showing off the new P1 3.0 ⚡
Thanks for sending us the 3.0 and including the seat. It wouldn’t have occurred to me to test it that way, but I had a blast! -Paul
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Got the P1 3.0 on Friday thanks for the discount code I managed to get the Tron edition for almost the same price as the standard edition so a massive thank you RG
Outstanding! Have fun! -Paul
How is the scooter now after a couple months?
If I was going 30mph+ on dual mothers what would you say the range would be like??
I purchased the P1 2.0 almost solely on your recommendation ... and boy am I glad I did. We weigh 235 lbs and carry an extra external battery and tools, etc., for a total rider weight of around 260 lbs. It still does 36 mph on the level and 40-43 mph down hill. The only thing that went wrong was the right turn signal got stuck in on mode. The P1 3.0 addresses everything we would have ask for. I am not a relative of Solar or RG. lol
So glad you're enjoying it! -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I wonder if you have a list of the best scooters for price range "real world range".. something like 23 miles and up
I just found a list of what I was looking for nvm lol.
I have Solar P1 2.0 and I need some advice on maintenance. My headset bearings need to be replaced as they are very worn. What is the type and size of bearing I need? I have searched far and wide and cannot find this information anywhere.
Can’t wait to get mine on Monday. I must’ve gotten lucky cause I believe you guys had a 15% off code last time and that’s what I used :)
That’s awesome!
This is a dangerous channel! Been riding an underpowered 350w Amazon scooter (now my wife's) to run my dog. At 260lbs, I can only get up hills by kicking. Seems like scooters are developing quickly. I'm tempted to spend $440 for an iscooter iX3 (800w, 48V) and consider it disposable after 1-2 years and choose something that fits me at that time. That is the lowest for price and quality i could get by with. Or go nuts and get this Solar! The logic being this has more than enough and anything more would be dangerous for me. When I was under 40, I would have wanted to go as fast as I could. Now I'm just an old fat guy that wants to go up hills.... and misses the thrill of his skateboarding years. Being older with injuries that don't get better, the solar seems like a luxury choice and sets the ceiling for my search. Thanks for the content, you're raising my expectations and budget. (Hence the danger!)
well what did you decide??
You shouldn't actually run a 350w scooter uphill, that's the easiest way to burn the controller out, or to trigger the thermal cut off.
@@LampDoesVideogame it's a cheap amazon scooter for my 98lb wife. For her, it's good enough. That's why I started looking for a scooter for me, and settled on the P1 3.0. The P1 has met all of my requirements.
Had this delivered 2 days ago...
INSANE!!! The acceleration is just crazy in the 3rd gear
Amazing!
Super cool always appreciate these reviews
Thank you so much! -Paul
ty for all the reviews it help me so much to make my decision!!!just got this scooter i've been watching for the last 6 months for the price it's going to be great for me!!!living in San Franciso this is going to be awesome!!!
Just got mine today! Man oh man! This is the best scooter for the money…period! $1359 no seat I’m 150lbs and got 45mph with a full charge 🤣🤣🤣Solar yall did yall thing with this one! I’m charging it now so I can see those Tron Lights!
Awesome! Enjoy your new ride.
How did you get 45mph? Was it easy or did you go like downhill or something
Would it be possible to create a tier list of all the electric scooters? Would love to see a video where you talk about each scooter real time and speak honestly about them then dragging them into the S, A, B, C, F tier categories
I don’t like to rank scooters because I’d be ranking them by how much I like them, and I might like different things than you like.
To me, the most important thing I do is to find what each scooter does best and worst and then the audience can decide whether those are the things which are important to them.
Even the “worst scooter we’ve ever reviewed” the MacWheel pro, has one thing it did very well. At the time it was the most range per dollar you could buy. So if someone really didn’t care about ride quality or being able to read the dashboard, but needed max range per dollar, the “worst scooter” could be a good choice for that person. But it’s a very narrow use case, because that scooter really sucks to ride. :-) -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I completely understand your take on this. Putting a scooter at C tier while someone that loves their scooter watching would be sad lol.
Ha ha! That too! People really take it personally some times. I’ve been there! There really is something to love about almost every scooter! -Paul
Thanks Paul for another awesome review!😊
Thanks so much for the kind words!
Hey what's the little hack you talk about around 8:30?
It’s been a while but I think the hack was adding an extra washer to the front end between the forks and the wheel to make the axle width match the fork width a little better. All forks work best if they’re exactly parallel when bolted down and this one was pinching inward by a couple mm at the bottom, which was causing more resistance in the fork movement. I expect that they have optimized this by now on the new ones. -Paul
1:49 thank you for this tip friend
This channel deserve at least 1M subscriber 👏🏽
As a fellow San Franciscan, what hill are you considering the 'steepest'? This certainly does not look like Bradford at Tompkins or Filbert at Leavenworth.
Many many steep hills for sure!
How do you compare the Apollo scooters vs Solar 3.0?
That's a great question. It occurred to me after we shot this that the Apollo City would have been another good one to include here. It's a bit more expensive at $1,649 but a really nice scooter, especially the 2023 version. The IP rating (water resistance) is sky high at IP66, but performance is a fair amount lower at 31mph top speed, and similar for hill climbing power. That said, the fit and finish of the Apollo City feels superior. -Paul
Thanks for the review. Purchased this scooter after watching this. Good info!
Glad it was helpful!
Nice video. This scooter seems like a very worthy replacement for my Emove Cruiser. The seat and adjustable handlebar stem make this worth looking at, and I certainly would welcome the greater power.
Thanks! I think you’d really enjoy it as a next step. You might still keep the Cruiser for longer more chill rides. They’re both great scooters. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I need to no wot price they was selling for brand new before it got discontinued
Thanks getting this one out, Paul. I've been vacillating between the EQ & 2.0/3.0. Mitchell said Solar rides are kinda janky on his channel, but you used the word "hands-on." Voro Motors has a cool video on how to mod the type of handlebars the 3.0 has, since the EMove Cruiser has them. I enjoy tinkering, so it's decided! Oh yea, did you post the suspension hack here?
Yeah, since I’m a hands-on guy I really like being able to tweak and tune a little. This reminds me a lot of my first sports car when I was a teenager. It has a nice balance of power and handling.
The hack I found was that there is an extra washer on the inside of the right fork (between the fork and the bearings) that spreads the fork out too wide and causes it to bind a little. So for me what worked was: unbolt brake caliper using the sideways facing bolts, unbolt front wheel, slide it out of the fork, remove the double washer on the right axle (the side with the brake rotor) put it back on, (now way easier to install). The left side only has one washer to begin with.
When you reassemble you need to re-set the brake caliper location, but that’s a good idea any time you take the wheels off. You do that by loosening the other two bolts that hold the brake caliper to the caliper mount, slide everything into place. Then after the wheel is installed and tight, and the brake caliper bracket is bolted to the forks: squeeze the brake lever and the caliper will line itself up. Then tighten the caliper bolts that point down toward the axle and the caliper will end up aligned to the rotor. It helps to tighten a little at a time so it stays aligned while tightening. -Paul
OK cool I guess I'll need to get used to this process for tire changes as well. THX!
@@itchimo82self healing tires, with any luck that should be an extremely rare occurrence 🥹
EQ prob better for tiny bit more money.. better brakes to boot
Has a good code now the EQ too get 15% off with code RG15 for a limited time
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuidevery nice discount. Any active ones for KLIMA , Kukirin, or Roadrunner?
Great video, awesome scooter👍
Great channel and awesome review. I just ordered a P1 3.0 and am still waiting for it to come in. You mentioned the issue with the handle bar grips being loose and spinning. Do you happen to know whether or not Solar has fixed that issue and/or made an update regarding that yet?
Hope you enjoy your new ride and grips should not have any issues
had to sell my Nami E2 after i broke my shoulder, this is exactly what i need, perfect for me as i need the seat. but as i dont have as much strength in my right arm, i would need to move the throttle to the left maybe?
It really takes very little input from your right arm. If you’re comfortable resting your hand on the grip, you might be ok with right side throttle. You can also swap the cables to put the stronger brake (front brake) with your stronger hand (left hand), since the front brake is usually on the right. -Paul
65-67lbs? Their site said only 55lbs. Glad I waited for a full review. Not an upgrade option for me with that weight and range but probably great for others.
Yes, 67.2 lbs on the RG scale, without seat and 73.8lbs with the seat. I've been meaning to let them know about that typo on their site. I just sent them a message. Thank you for the reminder. -Paul
Well I just found out it was heavier than I thought it was. I allready ordered. I'm sure ill still like it but I looked at the weight. lol
10lbs lighter then the inokim oxo if you care about distance don't get the p1 get the oxo range 68mi!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide10 months later and they still haven't changed it. that 55lbs almost made me buy it. but it just looks too heavy.
Looks like you did a video on this same scoot with almost a identical video title 10 days ago.
We tend to do two types of content a First Look where we get our first impressions and then a Full Review after we’ve tested it and know the range, top speed and all the little details. -Paul
Is it really better to run in dual motor mode on all scooters?
Yes, as far as we know. Even on smaller scooters like the Unagi Voyager. The Unagi app lets you know that you get longer range in dual motor than single.
The caveat is that if you run single motor, you'll probably ride slower, so you may get more range for that reason. But, if you rode dual motor side-by-side with a scooter in single-motor mode, at the same speed and same acceleration, then you'd get the same or more range on the one running dual motor.
But, if you can't resist mashing the throttle :-) riding in dual motor can sometimes tempt you to ride in an innefficient way. -Paul
I wish Nami would make seats for their scooters. It’d be nice to throw one on for longer rides.
Hopefully soon!
I SAID THE SAME THING!!!! When are we gonna get seat attachments for the Nami Burn E 2s!!!!!?? WHEN!!!! 😭😭😭😢
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Any word on when yet!??
Nice Video! I've poured hundreds of hours of research into Electric Scooters and you are a really big help RG. Just one thing, does your scooter last longer with LG cells and preform better? I've heard of a lot of failures with Generic Cells. Thank you for everything.
It depends. The Segway max uses China cells and not name brand. For reliable companies the battery is not as important as people like to think.
Thanks RG!@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
is the emove cruiser like this one? How is the range compared? I know this one is faster. Is this good for commutes? Do you know if the emove cruiser plan to release a 2024 version? or a new one in general to compete with this?
The EMOVE Cruiser doesn't have as much acceleration, and has a much larger battery so it has a lot more range. Our tested range for the EMOVE Cruiser S was 43.6 miles vs 27.7 for the Solar P1 3.0 (I did both tests). The Cruiser tends to update every year, and it feels due for a larger update, but I don't know what's coming for the Cruiser in 2024 yet. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Thank you I appreciate it.
😢 wish I didn't get this p1 3.0 the range is a deal breaker!if I could return it without any fees I would done it in a heart beat yep mistake i made
hey, any idea how long the promo code will last? would love to get one but I might be getting it in a week or two
I haven’t heard when it will expire. -Paul
Discount code doesn’t work
Try code RG10
lol….fail ;)
I believe that the final version of the Apollo Go when it comes out in 6 months will be best value in the sub $1300 segment. Top speed will only be around 28mph. However, it will have acceleration similar to the bigger city pro with a better more integrated design unlike anything in the segment. Plus it will be nearly 18 lbs lighter than the Solar P1 3.0 with narrower handlbars than the city pro allowing for better portability. It will become like the new Apple 15inch MacBook air. The best possible scooter, with the best form factor, feature list, and usability for the money for an everyday person.
Can’t wait to try the production version with full suspension! We actually still have the prototype I rode during the short video we made! -Paul
@RiderGuide Hey Paul! 👋 Yes Eloi and team are doing an amazing job at bringing the best parts of the Apollo Pro down market to a top-tier entry level do it all scooter. My only request from them would be to stick to 10inch tires instead of moving down to 9 inch tires.
with due all respect isnt this frame a generic frame. its a great frame because so much parts available for it at an affordable price
Good eye! It’s true that any scooter with handlebars that extend and fold the way these do, is not a completely original scooter, but a customized version of something that already existed. The difference is the level of customization: sine-wave controllers, tubeless tires with sealant, lights, and accessories. But more importantly, things like the two year warranty, parts that ship from Los Angeles, spares available on the website and how quickly the scooter arrives once ordered. :-) -Paul
a Solar P1 Pro would be great! what's your opinion on the scooter?
Great choice! Use code RIDERGUIDE10 for 10% off
a review for it would be amazing!@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
Did you test the Yume Y10 electric scooter?
We have not tested that brand!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide it’s about 1000 bucks and it’s 40MPH
it should have a solar panel as the brand name suggest..
Good video just missed talk about the suspension i have horrible streets on my city and would like to know how it works on bad streets glad yoy can talk about it!
It's really pretty good. The front is a bit stiffer than optimal, but these tubeless tires have huge sidewalls that do a pretty good job of soaking up the bumps. The one place I really appreciate the stiff front suspension is when I'm hammering the brakes. In the performance section of the video I do several passes of maximum braking and you can see that the front end doesn't dive and the whole scooter is very composed. (except that one time I overdid it and the rear wheel came up, but that was my fault for using too much brake!) -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
That makes sense that softer front suspension can effect brake response.
But the front of these guys is STIFF..
Great video !
How’s would you guys compare this to the nanorobot d4 max ? And which one should I go for ?
For reference I don’t do any offroad
We like this better!
What’s the hack for the suspension? I have the EQ and it’s the same suspension. Also is it possible to upgrade the rear suspension with an air shock or coil suspension if yes then what’s the size? Thanks
On this particular unit, the hack I found was that the fork was spread too wide at the bottom and was binding a little. There were two washers on the inside of the right fork (between the fork and the bearings) that spread the forks out too wide and caused it to bind a little. So for me what worked was: unbolt brake caliper using the sideways facing bolts, unbolt front wheel, slide it out of the fork, remove the double washer on the right axle (the side with the brake rotor) put it back on, (now way easier to install). The left side only has one washer to begin with.
When you reassemble you need to re-set the brake caliper location, but that’s a good idea any time you take the wheels off. You do that by loosening the other two bolts that hold the brake caliper to the caliper mount, slide everything into place. Then after the wheel is installed and tight, and the brake caliper bracket is bolted to the forks: squeeze the brake lever and the caliper will line itself up. Then tighten the caliper bolts that point down toward the axle and the caliper will end up aligned to the rotor. It helps to tighten a little at a time so it stays aligned while tightening. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Now do u know if it’s possible to upgrade the rear shock with air suspension or coil? If so do u have an idea of the size I’ll need? Thanks Paul
@@jerrodgamble5686
I think the rear shock feels pretty good. I don’t know if an upgrade for it though. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide It’s okay but I think it could be better. A5 has an air suspension that I want to try but I’m not sure of the size. Maybe 125mm? Idk lol. I wish I knew of an upgrade for the front suspension. I haven’t seen anything that looks compatible.
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuidefor those of us that bought this scooter on your recommendation but don’t have the expertise to make these adjustments, is there anywhere in LA that can help?
How is the build quality and ride quality compared to Gotrax GX2?
Both are solid options! Solid a better build!
Thanks RG for the information in you're review, hopefully solar become more pronounced in New Zealand
I hope so too!
just ordered it for 1170 dollars
had the 2.0 2 yrs ago, but it got punctured and mashed up so never touched it after January 2023 lol
this scooter was a beast
cant wait to use it again in a few days
Amazing value for sure!
did u buy when it on sale? because i interested in buying one but it costs 1260 after taxes. also do u recommend have the tires went flat?
i have put the solid bar kit on my solar p12.0 so its got no folding one anymore so i can put wider bars on now and wake stem so it looks a bit like he p1 pro now and i have put some wolf king front lights on it aswell so its finally getting there
Would you recommend it over the phantom by Apollo?
They’re very different scooters, the phantom is definitely more refined and has more of a high end feel. The Phantom has a stiffer stem, smoother but more floaty suspension, dedicated regen brake and an app. The P1 3.0 is a little sportier and easier to customize. The Phantom usually costs a fair amount more. At their typical prices they are both equivalently good values. -Paul
Just ordered! I read the suspension hack in another comment, do you know if that's still helpful, or if Solar addressed the issue?
Issue has been resolved! Enjoy your scooter
How? When? What was the hack?
Would this fit someone who is 6’ 4”?
I was about to say “yes” because of the adjustable bars, but then I looked up the max bar height and it’s only 37.5 inches, which is too low for you. The P1 Pro has 40.75” tall bars. That scooter will fit you much better, but it’s a bit heavier.
Here’s the review. -Paul
ruclips.net/video/MGbsZDsZaOk/видео.htmlsi=vt-rlN_GBpKalbro
Thank you so much for your speedy reply and direction Paul, going to check out the link on the P1 Pro.
Im indecisive about getting the solar p1 3.0 or apollo ghost v1, what do you think is better
Solar for the win! Use code RG10 for max discount
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide ok thank you
How do you waterproof your scooter?
Silicone all around the seems!
Look for any gaps, especially where water can flow down a cable and into the deck. Also the throttle assemblies sometimes have gaps which can be filled. The tough one is the trigger itself, if the trigger opening goes into the electronics area (it doesn't always). If there is an opening at the trigger than the only solution for heavy rain is super goofy and maybe even a little dangerous, which is to put a sandwich bag over the throttle. I'd be worried about it somehow making the throttle stick though. -Paul
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@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuideshould I not be afraid to put silicone all over my scooter? Will it not get inside the cracks? Also what has been your experience with removing the silicone? And what type of silicone would you recommend?
Thanks for the video. I've been looking out for it!
Hi @@shloimy , silicone is pretty innocuous stuff. Mainly just pick the color you like: clear or black and go for it. Don’t put it on things that are supposed to move, of course, like the throttle lever, wheel bearing seals, and the moving parts of the stem. Mainly it’s just where wires enter and exit the deck. You can really jam it into the gaps. It’s not going to do anything bad if a little gets inside the deck. Wipe off the excess before it dries because it’s much much harder to remove once fully dry.
For the trigger, it gets tricky. You can’t seal around the trigger itself because it needs to move. Most triggers are mounted outside of the area in the display where the electronics are. I haven’t looked closely at how the trigger connects to the P1 3.0 display. I’ve heard of people just popping a sandwich bag over the trigger for crazy storms , but that seems dicey to me because what if it gets caught and sticks your throttle on.
That’s a good time to remember that pretty much all scooters will cut throttle if you apply brake! But better not to get into that situation in the first place of course. -Paul
So what was the front suspension hack that was supposed to be in the comments???
Loosen the axle, see if the forks are being pinched inward by the mounting bolts. If the forks sit wider than the wheel spacers when it’s unbolted (air gap between fork and spacers when the axle bolts are loose) then you may need to add a thin washer to each side on the axle inward of the forks.
Basically you want the forks not to pinch inward when you tighten them down. The more straight they are, the more parallel they are and the smoother they will move. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Thankyou!
My question is now that you reviewed & tested the solar p1 3.0 & EQ are they replacing any of the scooters on your recent best electric scooters list or stay as an honorable mention?
We should have an updated list end of this year or early next year!
Just bought one, due in Monday.. I know you do brake tests from 15mph, but I'd be very interested in them from 30mph and fullspeed.
Possibly in the future. Thank You.
Will you be reviewing the Solar P1 Pro anytime soon? P1 3.0 checks all boxes other than top speed. Thank you, Paul for a great review!
Should be doing that after new years!
Thank you!@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
it's been way after New Year's lol you should've already had a review of that beast. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 @@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
could you make a video on how to waterproof an electric scooter for beginners? (and possibly sealing motors?)
Interesting idea! Thank You
do you use any background music becouse when i use headphones i hear something lol!
Funny, I usually notice what Eduardo uses in the background, but even though I’ve watched it 10 times, I can’t remember, other than that he used it for the intro. -Paul
How does riding a seated scooter compare to riding a (seated) e-bike? What are the differences in comfort and stability? Does the scooter seat post have a lot of flex?
Depends on the ebike and sitted scooter! Most of them feel different.
@RiderGuide Well, how does this Solar feel. Does the seat post feel pretty solid? Sway-proof? Did you feel safe riding in the seated position? You can't use your legs the same way you can on a bike.
The thing I love about this seat post is the complete lack of side to side flex. I hate it when the seats have two springs and wobble side to side. This one definitely doesn't do that. It's not quite as stable as an e-bike because of the smaller tires, but it's one of the best riding seated scooters I've tried other than the ones which are seated-only like the RoadRunner V2. -Paul
@RiderGuide Thanks for the reply, Paul.
Thanks, Paul for your review. I am strongly considering this scooter. Please, does it have turn signals? Thank you.
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I wonder if the Kukirin G3 pro tops this one for around the same price
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I am thinking of getting one but the only thing that annoys me is the speed when it’s going 40 it says 50 is there anyway to fix that
Yes in the p settings on display
Correct me if im wrong but the range (30mi) is due to battery 52V -18Ah DUAL motor 2400W scooter weight 55Lbs rider/scooter weight and how fast you be traveling... my son has inokim oxo the controller shows range (68mi) 57.6V - 26Ah 2300W dual motor scooter weight 74Lbs
Can the TRON light be turned off and on?
Yes
Does anyone remember the solar Q1 if so does anyone remember wot it was selling for. The reason I'm asking because it's been discontinued. And there's a used one come up for sale
We haven't seen that one. Anyone? -Paul
If I get the fingerprint version what would happen if I break the scanner. Does it come a with key ignition aswell as the fingerprint?
It can be replaced! I think this has key!
You need to try the new Teverun fighter mini and the Teverun supreme 7260
I can’t wait. The calculated peak power is slightly lower than the Roadster, but I’m sure the 7260R is ridiculously fast! We don’t have one coming our way yet, but we’ll get one. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuideI got one last month and it really is nice for the price, with a few quirks but nothing major tho, I’m sure they’ll get it sorted out in the next gen
@@gilbertogranados6367 performance per dollar looks very good. What were the quirks? -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuideat first you can’t use it unless you update it, mine stopped half way so it took me the entire day to try and figure out what was going on, couldn’t really figure it out myself so I contacted the Chinese head quarters to help me out, long story short they got it done in 10 minutes (which it can get very frustrating for not techies like myself real fast), the NFC came broken but I got that one fix quite easy with some glue, any how, my biggest gripe with the mini is the deck, at first glance it may seem big enough but it ain’t, somehow it just feels so short for long period riding, the brakes are great, the power is awesome, the suspension really adds up, the lighting, everything just works, just those two small little perks but nothing major, I’m sure if you gave it a try you would agree that one could easily make it to the top of the list specially at the selling price of around 1400 bucks, which is ridiculously cheap when you think about it since minimotors had an input in the design I believe
Does the scooter need a key to turn on?
It’s optional!
Finally something that doesn't cost as much as my car
Thanks for watching and commenting! :-) -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide you are welcome!!!
Okay, I've finally received my P1 3.0 a week and a half ago, and I absolutely love it. However, the light switch broke on me making it impossible to turn the lights off. Solar sent me a replacement switch, which I installed and it worked great; but after my last night ride, the switch broke again leaving me in the same predicament.
Have you or anyone else experienced this? And if so, what was your fix? Because I really think the light switch needs to be redesigned to something a bit more sturdy. I'd love to know your thoughts.
Give Solar an email they will gladly assist!
I bought the P1 3.0 in early March, what does the one red bar on the battery level indicator mean? I have also notice the miles have been at 3 for awhile and I have driven enough to add miles but it hasn't changed.
Try resetting it!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I tried resetting to factory setting but its still at 3 miles.
The majority of scooters you look at, those companies don't ship to Canada other than the Apollo.
Hopefully that will change soon!
i was suggested just now in your comments by you to check this one out. i see its good at climbing, however im fairly heavier than you. im around 127-130 kg so i doubt it would carry me up there.
You should be fine with that weight!
Do you know which scooter out there has the highest handlebar height from the deck up and has an option for a seat?
The Dualtron X Limited has bars 39.75" above the deck and an optional seat. The next highest I know of that for sure has a seat is the EMOVE Cruiser. But I'm sure there are others. -Paul
Although I don't ride anymore,from my experience you'll want a scooter with an adjustable stem(steering pole). My Dualtron ultra stem was too high for a seat but my Speedway 4 Pro (adjustable stem) was perfect with the seat. Most adjustable stem scooters are gonna have around the same height from deck to bars.
Wow such a prompt reply. Thanks Paul. At 39.75 that would feel quite low to me standing wise. I’m almost 6’5” and I found the Nami Klima was about as low as I’d like to go. I don’t really need that powerful a scooter and liked the regen and throttle on the Apollo Phantom, but the lower stem was a bit of a turn-off as well as the non-tubeless tires. Will be interested to see next year if you review the redesigned Explorer to see what handlebar height that is from the parallel foot pads 😮. I was thinking the Solar might have a taller adjustable stem scooter in their lineup. Oh well.
@@MrBalas3
The NAMI scooters have the tallest bars of any scooters we’ve tested other than the Inmotion RS, which is 43.25 in its default position (but can be adjusted lower). Some of the new Apollo scooters are pretty tall too, like the City Pro 2023. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuideAgreed in regards to Nami. I tried the E-Burn2 at Fluid Free rides in S.F. as well as the Klima but that was even more excessive off the line than the Klima. Granted I hadn’t yet understood about changing the power levels of the scooter so who knows what they had it on. InMotion was extremely helpful in finding heights of their handlebars. The chat on their website actually in real time sent me pictures with them measuring the handlebar height and deck size on two of their scooters (the RS and S1). They really went above and beyond what I was expecting from a chat. I liked also at least in videos how the scooter didn’t look so excessively high off the ground. Alas no optional sear with that one. So much for wanting the best of both worlds. Also, the Nami and RS are really to expensive and powerful for my needs(or more like fears of crashing). Thanks again.
I hate when things are labeled as "under" a certain amount, when in reality the price is usually a penny away from the price in the title. It's misleading at best. Shipping and taxes will always increase the price over list price.
Saying it's the fastest under $1,299.99 doesn't fit as well in the thumbnail photo. Shipping is free, so for those living in states like Oregon where there's no sales tax, you can actually get one to your door for $1,299.99
What title would you have used for this video? We're always looking for new ideas.
-Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I think most consumers equate $1299.99 to $1300, so just call it that. "41 MPH Scooter for $1300!" is still a great, informative title that doesn't mislead the viewer and still drives engagement.
It is technically under $1300 when you use the discount code
How long does it take to reach 50kmh?
Not fast at all!
The 3.0 dosnt have turning signals but the 2.0 does... I guess they forgot to mention that one. Wish I could buy the rubber deck separate
Thanks for the feedback!
Do you have the US version because uk version has indicators
Does it require a license to ride these fast scooters?
Depends on your locality!
I wonder if this is a customized Alibaba/Aliexpress scooter. I'm guessing it can't be mentioned due to a review contract.
Every scooter of this style is in some way a customized version of another scooter. It's always a question of how carefully the brand has spec'd out the scooter. For example, the sinewave controllers, the lighting package, tubeless tires, the sealant in the tires, available accessories etc. The other big thing is the warranty, and that they stock parts in Los Angeles. We don't tend to ask brands about their supply chain other than whether battery cells are brand name or not. -Paul
hi Paul, do you know if solar has a mobile app? i haven’t seen one. it would b cool to as to manage my p1 3.0 scooter on my iphone. if not what app would you recommend i use to view gps or mph on my phone while riding? thx
They don’t! There are plenty out there
You should review the joyor s10 s
We are not fans of Joyor Brand!
That’s a way better horn than the Segway GT series.
How would you improve the suspension as i agree the front is way too stiff 🛴
The hack I found was that there is an extra washer on the inside of the right fork (between the fork and the bearings) that spreads the fork out too wide and causes it to bind a little. So for me what worked was: unbolt brake caliper using the sideways facing bolts, unbolt front wheel, slide it out of the fork, remove the double washer on the right axle (the side with the brake rotor) put it back on, (now way easier to install). The left side only has one washer to begin with.
When you reassemble you need to re-set the brake caliper location, but that’s a good idea any time you take the wheels off. You do that by loosening the other two bolts that hold the brake caliper to the caliper mount, slide everything into place. Then after the wheel is installed and tight, and the brake caliper bracket is bolted to the forks: squeeze the brake lever and the caliper will line itself up. Then tighten the caliper bolts that point down toward the axle and the caliper will end up aligned to the rotor. It helps to tighten a little at a time so it stays aligned while tightening. -Paul
just ordered one, Ill get the seat later maybe
Enjoy your new ride!
what’s the range miles
Around 30 real world
Kind of a long shot but would you be willing to sell this scooter?
We don’t sell our test scooters sorry!
most beast adult off-road electric scooter
Thanks for watching and commenting! -Paul
Hello thank you so much for your video's, I am new to scooters. I am looking for a scooter that I can ride my wife on the back (she will not ride one). I was ready to get the Emove Crusier S because of the deck size but someone in the thread mentioned the Solar P1 3.0 would be an upgrade. As long as I can go 25mph speed doesn't make a difference to me. As a rookie would appreciate some professional input. Thanks again, look forward to more great content
Both are good choices! Solar is definately zippier. You can use code RIDERGUIDE10 to get 10% off your order
Sooo what is your front-suspension hack? :)
Remove one spacer!
What is a spacer? and how do you remove it please? thank you. you do great reviews! fixing to buy this soon
Please do a video on the suspension modification. The comment you posted doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me im kinda dumdum
We will try our best!
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Yes yes yes spot on well worth the money 💷
For Sure!
Ip54 is not very good and I see they kept the fenders which are far too short. you will get a lot of water and dirt sprayed up your backside from ankle to head (and I'm 6'4"). I've been driving the 2.0 for months in the PNW.
I ended up extending the fenders by about 3 inches using duct tape and bamboo meat skewers.
Thanks for the feedback!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide What Solar really needs to switch to is split rim tires even if it adds a few bucks more.
Yeah have Paul or chuck or ramier
Does anyone know the Peak Power in Watts for this Solar P1 3.0 scooter? Thanks.
What kind of speed are you looking for ?
hi! i bought the scooter. i used your 10% code thank you! please help me improve the front suspension with the hack you mentioned.
On this particular unit, the hack I found was that the fork was spread too wide at the bottom and was binding a little. There were two washers on the inside of the right fork (between the fork and the bearings) that spread the forks out too wide and caused it to bind a little. So for me what worked was: unbolt brake caliper using the sideways facing bolts, unbolt front wheel, slide it out of the fork, remove the double washer on the right axle (the side with the brake rotor) put it back on, (now way easier to install). The left side only has one washer to begin with.
When you reassemble you need to re-set the brake caliper location, but that’s a good idea any time you take the wheels off. You do that by loosening the other two bolts that hold the brake caliper to the caliper mount, slide everything into place. Then after the wheel is installed and tight, and the brake caliper bracket is bolted to the forks: squeeze the brake lever and the caliper will line itself up. Then tighten the caliper bolts that point down toward the axle and the caliper will end up aligned to the rotor. It helps to tighten a little at a time so it stays aligned while tightening. -Paul
Thanks Paul! that was ver nice of you to detail. however am new to scooters and would have no clue how to do what you suggested lol…i would probly mess up the scooter if i attempt that me mechanical hack… maybe after i learn more ill try it. i thought would be simpler. thank you my friend for replying and providing instructions. love your videos!
You’re welcome@@charlyfkngrocks!
-Paul
I wish i lived in a country where escooters with seats were not banned ....
Hopefully that can change in the future!
Omg! This is so hard to pick!
The GX2 is $1200 with discount.
Is 5MPH more worth, $300?
Some part of me feels like EMove Cruise will come out with a new scooter that does 40 MPH with the same awesome range.
How do you decide, wait or pull de trigger?
The GX2 and P1 3.0 are both great, but very different. I really like both for different reasons. The P1 3.0 is way more flexible and easy to mod and tune. You can tune the throttle response, regen brake response. The GX2 is more of a black box, you get what you get. But what you get is also pretty good right out of the box. The P1 3.0 is all together sportier, the GX2 is a cleaner build and will have less fasteners to look after. It’s a tough one! -Paul
NICE
Thanks for your support Teddy! Always good to see you! -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
I always come back for Electric scooter videos
I want this i hate being broke 😢
I’ve been there. Here’s to better days ahead. -Paul
Does this scooter have regen braking ?
Should be on their site! Check the link in description
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Not a fan of having 3 different people do the reviews. I wish you would just have Paul do the reviews or a different person. Don’t keep switching
We need multiple people doing reviews because we would have a huge backlog if Paul was the only one doing them.
How the heck do you expect them to put out so much content with one person? It's silly
Plus, we love the other dudes. All my favorite scooter reviewers under one roof!
How would I as a 6'7 260 lbs person know of this scooter works for me unless the other 2 hosts share their thoughts too ???
Wanna know what would be even better than 3 different people giving 3 different reviews and perspectives that one of the other 2 may not have noticed or cared about??? Going and spending $$$$ and making your own review videos so then we can all critise you.
Nobody asked what your a fan of