Bit the bullet and bought one, it was delivered yesterday, pretty solid machine, great power, great brakes and equally good suspension (did soften pre-load on front). Needs PMT's which are next on my list. My headlight bracket needed some tweaking, eventually had to install longer bolts and spacers to keep from having to bend all the brackets (headlight is too narrow for brackets). Had to bend the kickstand outward, wouldn't stand up on it's own, thought I was gonna break the mounting bolts off but they held. I swapped the brake lever clamp and throttle around, my hands aren't small by any means but the throttle felt too far away, feels way better now. I have spoken (literally) to the Teewing on the little issues as well as text messages/emails, they are VERY prompt and professional, this means a TON, very happy with the scooter and their service!!
@@BH4x0r ok maybe I meant more like every five seconds there is a new scooter. Wish there was more emphasis on quality parts instead of these Chinese companies just throwing out scooters that basically use the same components with little change. It's all about high numbers and nothing else. They are still putting cheap nylon tires on 60+ mph scooters. After owning a zero 10x, wolf warrior, a couple Wepeds, Currus Panther, and now a NAMI Burn E max, I'm getting kinda tired of having to fix stuff or deal with poor manufacturing (other than Weped, which are crazy nice)
@@myplaxismodelisbetterthanyoursyeah, it’s crazy how much decent qualities tyres changes everything. PMT on all my scooters even if it’s 60 bucks a peace
Im new to scooters. Started with a simple 18mph gotrax, upgraded recently to the emove cruiser S, I haven't even attempted the approximate top speed of 30mph, 25 mph for me is more than enough. These types of scooters are for real serious adrenaline junkies. When I eventually want more speed , I'll upgrade to a nice E Bike . The technology is advancing so fast that I would only feel comfortable going 30-50 mph+ if im on a bike. These scooters are incredible but also extremely dangerous. The acceleration is more than most people can handle safely.
I partly second that even though I prefer e-scooters and have never ridden any e-bike. It's just not my thing. It's overly fast and therefore dangerous. I prefer going like 45mph maximum. And even going like 20mph+ on your e-scooter you still gotta be really cautious and observant, especially if you're a newbie. I've ridden for like 2000+ miles on different e-scooters, but eventually crashed going just like 20-25mph because I got distracted just for a sec and caught a bump or a rock. Whatever. Broke my collarbone and shoulder blade :) 6 weeks of healing and wearing a sling, 4 weeks ahead :) So cautiousness is a key.
Scooters are especially dangerous beyond 20 miles per hour. The rider needs to be able to wear the protective gear correctly. Brace for the moment you hit the ground to give you support and reduce injuries.
@kangwang1970 For sure, anything over 25mph on a scooter is fast. I took my first nasty spill the first day I upgraded to a more powerful scooter. Instead of playing it safe and getting a feel for the ride , I foolishly decided it would be fun to hit a speed bump full throttle at 25+ mph to catch some air time. Big Mistake on my part, I crashed my brand new scooter on the first day and almost really injured myself. It was completely my fault, I thought I for sure damaged my scooter badly , but to my amazement, the only thing broken was my cell phone holder, which was just an accessory. Kudos to the build quality of the Emove Cruiser S , my body sustained far more damage than the scooter did. The only thing damaged was a little scraped paint. I now have a whole new respect for this machine and ride with gloves , light elbow pads, and a safe helmet ⛑️ 🪖 to ensure that if I ever do fall again, im more prepared and will walk away from the crash unfazed.
I'd love to see an "ease of regular maintenance score" in your videos. Questions asked in this section would look like: How easy is it to change tires and/or tubes? How easy is it to change brake components? I really hate spending so much money on a piece of equipment that is such a headache to maintain.
Great suggestion. It has been part of the reliability score since the beginning, but we haven’t broken it out as its own thing. Most of the numbers that go into the reliability score have to do with things like warranty length and what type of tires, etc, but there is an “ease of maintenance score” that I subjectively assign, which gets calculated into the overall reliability score. -Paul
Yeah, I have a friend that mentioned he has a few scooters that he no longer rides, because he found it impossible to change tires/tubes on them. It sucks to drop hundreds/thousands on something only to not be able to use it because of a normal thing like getting a flat.
I would like to see a "Scooter Reseller Score" or SRS, as well as just performance for these scooters. How responsive are they after the sale, parts availability, warranty response and so on. So many of the newer scooters are just coming drop shipped from China or dropped shipped to a USA warehouse with little or no real after sale service. And shipping a 135 pound scooter anywhere is simply not a practical option. The Reseller starts to become a HUGE consideration on $3000.00 and $4000.00 scooters and up.
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide- I ordered this one because of the off road abilities and it's speed on the street so I can get back off the street ASAP. I just ordered it and hope to get it soon.
I love how you all did a poll saying what scooter we wanted to see reviewed next, and the one we got was the one that got the least amount of votes, lol.
We really tried to get the RX7 out first. FedEx literally lost the battery (Not Roadrunner's fault) The battery ships separately from the scooter. I'm staring at an RX7 I can't ride yet. :-( -Paul
They really did an excellent job with the suspension . I really love how they added the link setup for the rear (like a dirt bike) as for the front I don't have any experience, but seems good .
Yeah, the suspension really works! I think with a smoother throttle it could be even better, but as long as you’re careful with your thumb it works pretty well as is. -Paul
Sine wave controllers seems to use current control, whereas Square wave primarily use speed control. I have rode a couple sine wave current control scooters, but i love the raw power tou get from speed control. It just dumps power every single time. Also the website says this uses FOC
Paul, Im going to buy one sir. You got me man. Sold my Wolf King a while ago been itching for another hyperscooter. The Vsett10 and others scooters I have will have to fall back and welcome big brother.
I'd actually like to see your reviews include the ACTUAL tire size listed on the sidewall of the tire. A lot of companies will just say 11" tires or something when the actual sidewall might read 90/65-6.5 or 90/60-6.5, so for those people who want to immediately swap knobbies for PMTs they can order the right size without having to wait until they get the scooter to get the correct size. Both of those sizes I listed are 11x3.5" tires but if you get the wrong one, your speedometer will be wrong.
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide You guys include so much other info, leaving that out seems like an oversight at this point considering the number of enthusiasts who immediately swap PMT tires on.
@@BH4x0r PMT makes a 90/60, 90/65, 90/50. 100/55, 105/50, and 110/55, all of which will fit 90% of these scooters but while my RS has a 90/65, I've seen several others take the 100 or 105mm wide tire. It would be nice to know which size is the CORRECT size for these scooters. Nevermind the weird scooters like the Dualtron X Limited, Yume Predator, and Teverun 7260R that are on 7" rims for which there is no PMT tire.
@@KevinPassino most Chinese make 11" scooters standard come with 100/65-6.5 and so do the Mars scooters pmt's 100+ actually are /55 so they're a less large dia on the other hand you can simply adjust the speed readout via the P settings so it is not really a big deal
I’ve had two scooters. Too long to explain how I got roped into buying TWO Splach scooters. DO NOT BUY SPLACH! Pieces of trash! I gave them away because I’d be mad about what I could sell them for, but I can be happy knowing a couple of youngsters have scooters to play with (and their price is RIGHT). I’m 81 years old but I’m starting to think I need another scooter. I’m going to pick up my CYBERBEAST @ 1000 this morning. I have a 72 VOLT SurRon and a Metacycle. I like electric toys. Thanks for all the effort you put into these videos.
After watching your reviews, got the Wolf Warrior X base model, because of the sine wave controllers and their superior speed control. Now, after watching this review, glad I did. That thing looks more like "work" than "fun" to cooperate at full chooch. Also that thing will go through tyres in days, and everyone loves paying for and changing escooter tyres, so that's nice. But, sure this thing will find a market in the land of muscle cars. Where quarter mile and straight line speed is all that matters. Thanks for sending it Paul, so I don't have to 😃
Ha ha! Happy to do it. I probably shouldn’t have been so hard on it about the throttle control in top mode. I have spent a bit of time riding it in top mode, but… I also find myself toggling it through 3 4 and 5 (top mode) a lot. -Paul
Customer support is THE most important factor when buying a new scooter, PERIOD. This wasn’t, really, addressed in the video . NanRobot has a CA based repair center, but having owned three (X-4, D3, and D5+2.0) I can’t recommend their customer support. I heard they’ve gotten better, but it’s been several years since I bought the D5+2.0 (Black Friday sale on ESG). THIS scooter is much newer so I suspect the support may not be that good. I, now, rock the OG STORM😊
Customer support is such a tricky thing to report on too, because we tend to hear about the folks who had a bad experience, but not always the ones who have good experiences. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide very true. I, personally, bought a brand new vehicle from, whom everybody considers, one of the most popular e-businesses, this past January. I received it in a, NOT, original box. The battery was faulty; sent videos to that company along with many phone calls. Their stated that they weren’t responsible for damages during shipping.?Really? Anyway I bought a new battery from another, older company. (MiniMotorsUSA). Fortunately the scooter was a “removable battery” one. I suggest that anyone purchasing a new vehicle DECLINE DELIVERY if it’s not in the original box. I should have. But I’d waited quite awhile for it, ect Anyway, it’s all good, now.
The Teewing and RS are side by side and you can only have one. Which one are you jumping on, and why? People want to know because most don’t have the luxury of having both.
That's so hard. Someone asked this earlier. I think the RS is a much better looking scooter, being so long and low. I also prefer the throttle response of the RS. But I love the suspension, the over all power and the huge battery of the XTR. I also like that you get the big battery for a much lower price. But.... the RS looks so good. I'm really torn. When I'm on the fence, I have to watch out because I tend to gravitate toward whatever is newest, and that's not the best reason. But right now I'm fascinated by the XTR. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I too like the suspension on the xtr, but I feel the front is very limited in travel having that link connected to it. I also don’t understand how having a bigger battery than the RS it has less range. I also got to believe that the handling between the two are very different because of the difference in the rake on the front. Can you shed some light on these differences please?
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuideBeautiful Honest Reply. Thank you 🙏 for this. Both are Definitely Modern Marvels. I lean towards the XTR too. What a Beautiful time to be alive & to experience life when Technology is at it Height Etc & to even have all these Beautiful Choices & Options. With all that said Jesus is the Only Option & Choice that matters @ the end of everything. God Bless You & all your Family, Friends & Team. Thank you 🙏 Brother.
Geez! Thanks for doing these reviews cause I would never! lol I’m good around the 30mph speed for me personally. I do love seeing the engineering that goes into these super scooters so thanks again for the great reviews.
It's here. We've just started testing. Because of the delay, I had to just do the speed run and unboxing, then switch to Best of 2024, because it's that time of year. So... I hope people aren't too disappointed that the first video isn't a full review. But we'll have the official top speed, at least. The RX7 first impressions video should publish very soon. Then will come Best of 2024, then we'll bounce back into the full RX7 review, but it will be a couple weeks before the full RX7 review. -Paul
Both perfect for commuting to work my neighbor has the teewingxtr he leaves to work at 3:30am it's been about 7 months he hasn't had a Problem with it yet if you're planning on riding to work or whatever gtr amd teewwing are both great they got the speed and range all around perfect scooters but overall the teewing is a better option because of the price
If they ever lower the price on this particular scooter, I'm gonna try to purchase as many as I can because this is a proper scooter well built and fast , like he said it a mixture of all the great scooter placed into one scooter and the front suspension is the best ever.. to customize this scooter would not be difficult.. as far as speed it's fast enough.. I don't know if you know or not but on my zero 10x electric scooter it comes on 10" tires but I added a custom steering damper and placed 11" tires on it and changed the p setting to 10.5" for the 11" tires I placed on it.. it's a way smoother ride and it makes the suspension softer .. so on this scooter I would replace the 11" tires with 12" tires and I can imagine how much better the total scooter would preform.. I want one of these and they should send me one for telling everyone my secret why my scooter rides better than everyone else's.. the secret is to place steering dampers and always go up in size when it comes down to the tires plus the oversized tires last alot long because you don't burn out as much on the take off...
The XTR, GTR should be retested with street tires. And for scooters like these two, there should also be off road test and, for fun, the Roadster with knobbies.
Great review It would be helpful to have info on the tyre change. Given the power info is important. Is it split rims? How hard or easy is a tyre change for people who cant get to a shop?
They’re tubeless, so almost for sure they’re solid rims. There are rare cases where you’ve got a split rim with an o-ring in the middle so you could have tubeless and split rim, but they usually make a big deal out of it if they do that and I didn’t see any mention of it, so they’ve got to be solid rims. -Paul
Only for the lights, as far as I know. I didn't get good shots of it, but the dashboard gives you direct control over the settings including how hard it launches. -Paul
11:23 through 11:50 Depending on where the "finish line" is, I'm not sure your hill climbing test data is as accurate as it could be. I might be wrong but it looks like you have to apply the brakes before you reach the top of this particular hill to safely stop. If so, are you able to hit the brakes at exactly the same spot for every run, and for every scooter that's tested? Can you apply exactly the same pressure to the brake levers for every run, for every scooter? I think you could get more accurate data with a laser beam at the bottom of the hill that starts a timer and a laser beam say fifty yards up hill that stops the timer. Then all the test rider has to do is open the throttle and hold on. The test rider applies the brakes *after* passing the second laser. That way, the variable deceleration data *is not* an integral part of the hill climbing power data. Great video, thanks for posting.
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide also you guys should check out the eso 640 leg light bar. It's been absolutely amazing 2600 lumens with a super wide beam which is great for riding. It lasts like 2hr on the high setting and can reverse change phones. Its like 30 usd.
Thanks so much for your support! I think that would be the ultimate upgrade. Come to think of it, I have some that would fit courtesy of WYRD RYDS. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Would be sick to know how much it helps the spinning on the launch/low speeds and how it improves the 0-30mph times compared to the knobby's
I would like to see turn radius🔄 added to stats u consider, turning affects enjoyment and safety 🔄 Also impressed how my Kaabo WK GT still charts on best scooters in many categories after many years
That one is still maybe the best deal out there. More than the GTR and personally, for every day riding, I’d rather ride the GT than GTR because of the lower deck and higher bars. -Paul
Hey that tooless preload on the shocks is nice to have. I'm a fat guy and I usually have to raise the shocks up about an inch or so to keep from bottoming out. This thing just grab the spring and turn. No spanner needed. I found it does help to get the wheels of the ground though
Wow. Impressive, especially the battery quality/size versus the price! A couple of things I wish it didn’t have for the price. A lot of switches are generic and visible on most of the other Chinese made ones. The off road tires look like generic ones sold on a lot of other scooters. It would be nice to start seeing some more innovation and bespoke designs in those two areas…
Yeah, I feel like they got the hard parts right, like the suspension and the fire extinguisher, which I should have mentioned more than just in the intro. But the cockpit doesn’t quite keep up with the rest of it. Mainly the ECO/Turbo and signal switches. The dash is really good. -Paul
Great review I got my mars xt last week fun scooter i have a few videos up on my channel and you can actually get the scooter with on or off road tires it's a very solid scooter nice review 👍🏽
I'm thinking about an FLJ-X14. This is bigger and more powerful than most on your list. Would you be able to do a review on that one please? 14" wheels. 10000 watts. 80 amp hour and was 72 volts, but might be back to 60 volts now for some reason..
Thanks for the recommendation. Very unusual specs! I think those ship directly from China. We tend not to review scooters which don't have a direct US presence. -Paul
My scooter has been customized from the inside also , I have mini motors controllers and throttle , the next thing is to places a bigger battery 60v /72v that's my next move.. everyone is confused why my zero 10x is so much faster than the zero 10x that they are riding, I won alot of money when it comes to racing....
Nice informative video good job guys. This scooter seems like a real deal for the price and what you get, I was looking to get the new dualtron ultra 2 2024 modell but now this really catcht my eye. The Mars XT 8000w is 150 dollar cheaper than the dualtron here in Sweden and the XTR is 200dollar more expensive than the dualtron. got some thinking to do. Been driving the Dualtron mini now for 14 months everyday to work/shopping with zero issues so i know the dualtron quality is nice. One thing you didnt mention how is the tyre changing on the Teewing?, is it fast connectors?, split rim?
It's tubeless so the rims are solid (though we are just starting to see the rare appearance of split rims on tubeless). Sorry I missed reporting on the connectors. I didn't take note of them. I'm fairly sure they're quick disconnect, but need to double check. -Paul
Never use dedicated offroad tires. Most of the time you need more dry grip. Use all season or dedicated road tires. Also I hate 12 inch tires. 10 inch for the win
You guys got something in the works for testing EUCs? Maybe a whole new channel? Electric Unicycle Guide, maybe? I would love to see your stadard of testing applied to EUCs.
Eventually! It’s crazy how many good scooters there are to test though. We’d definitely need a new channel. Thank you so much for appreciating the testing! Standardized testing is my favorite thing about our channel too! -Paul
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide there is definitely a learning curve. If you ever get the chance to take lessons from a good rider, it'll be easier to get. But you'll be familiar with at least some of the principles. Lean forward to accelerate, lean back to slow down, turn with your hips and look where you want to go. If you can ride that scooter board thing, you can ride an EUC.
i wish there was a drivers licence for e-scooter in Denmark so people can have that speed, limit speed for legal e-scooter is 20km/h here and it kinda sucks when e-bikes overtake or normal bikes for that matter, wearing helmet also with bikecylce helmet is okay but the speed is 20km/t, the one i have got a boost and max speed is 30km/h but it only boost for two sec then i have to press again to make it go a bit faster, i will take the licence if it became a legal thing.
Technically, we're only allowed to go about the same speed here in California, but the way it seems to work is if we ride at the speed of the cars or slower, we don't have any problems. Of course, the freeway is 100% off limits. They'll enforce instantly as they should. -Paul
Dang, that is a lot of scooter. The scooter war is heating up. Reminds me of the mountain bike wars of the 90s and the crotch rocket wars of the 2000s.
That's such a tough call. I think the RS looks better. Honestly the RS has plenty of power and a nice throttle response. I like the suspension on the XTR a little better. The XTR definitely has more performance and a bigger battery. I think I could be happy with either one. -Paul
Hey do you possibly k ow when the kqi3 300x review is coming out thank you! And do you know if i should get a 300x or a maxg2 for my son its his birthday soon
We should have a review out in the next few weeks. Mitchell will be doing that one. We’ll really need to test it before being able to say what’s better about either one, but our experience with NIU has been very good. I expect that it will be very similar to our experience with the KQi3 Max but with suspension. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide i ask them both side only the gspace replayed as for them GSPACE is the factory and TEEWING are distributor i don’t know if that is true I’m waiting for the reply of teewing
I'm definitely hearing a lot more about them lately. The one we have (a very old D4+) hasn't impressed me, but I've been hearing that we should take a look! Thanks for the reminder! -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Yume is the worst scooter brand ever . Mine blew both controllers with only 30 miles on the scooter . Took battery out of it and built a e bike . My Mantis King GT is a way better scooter . Not as fast but reliable .
Hey guys I am looking at purchasing the TeeWing XTR. Just wondering about the purchasing process I have messaged them via the website and they are getting back with me nicely. Asked if there were any coupons and they said I could save a little bit by doing ach directly to their Bank in New York. Does this sound okay to do and do you feel like they are trustworthy. Thanks
Interesting. There can be multiple channels to buy through and it’s hard to tell which set of folks you’re in contact with. The folks we worked with to get the scooter certainly seem like stand up folks and they’ve been around for a while, but when it comes to multi thousand dollar purchases I always feel more comfortable using credit cards. You can use this link geni.us/MarsXTR And code ESG50 to save $50 And full-disclosure it helps us fund the research it takes to make more reviews if you use either of them. -Paul
I'm contemplating on the mars I have the GTR for a month and so far an awesome scooter if it weren't for the controller failure seems it has overheating issues and crap I'm ready to send it back and get this one
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Ya, just was wondering if .... but this is so close to the Kaabo gtr, looks better, cheaper, and with a much larger battery? Better suspension? IDK .4mph slower?? (somewhere around there)? Looking at my finance options as we speak. Thank You!! Just would like the 12 " tire to seal the deal
Hard to say. I'm just getting to know the brand, so I don't know the particulars about where they're made or if they are relatred to other companies at all. -Paul
Did your RX7 battery come in yet? Is Teewing looking to go Sinewave in this model eventually? That's really my only reservation about it, so much power and so little modularity in the throttle response. Such a beast though...
Nice. I put 100 miles on mine already and after looking past some little things the ride has been great so far. The throttle is extremely smooth and modular. I feel like it is going to do well in that hill climb test. Can't wait to see the numbers it puts up.
Hey Paul! Where can i find the acceleration numbers 0-20, 0-30, 0-40 for the this scooter and the Emove roadster so we can compare them to the GTR etc!?
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide the acceleration figures for the Emove roadster and the treeing are not on your website. I love checking your website and comparing all the acceleration times for the diff scooters!
I got an M11 a few weeks ago, it's such a sick ride but oh boy is it heavy. There's a few things that I wish they'd change, in particular the signal lighting so that it can be seen during the daytime, but otherwise is an epic ride. I also had some issues with the app initially but got it working the next day.
Yes, it's fast. Yes, it's powerful. Yes, it's scary as hell riding at 60mph... because you know it's quick-design Chinese engineering. When will they come out with a scooter that foregoes all that insane potential speed, silly RGB lights and silly erector-set aesthetics for something that is solid quality, cool and smart aesthetics, efficient performance and made to last for 15 years under harsh conditions. I think that would sell. Closest thing I've found is my Okai Panther.. but while that looks good, it's still not made to last. It is possible though to make serious quality that lasts.... BMW, Mercedes, Honda and Volvo did it in the 1970's and 1980's with cars and motorcycles... they were bombproof, crazy reliable and also moderately priced.
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I'm using the off road tires on them but I do have some road tires just haven't installed them yet but I can tell u that the off road tires work very good when it comes to riding on off road and bumpes are nothing
I’m testing and filming the first part this week. We’ll have a first impressions video and speed run out by the end of the week. Then I have to jump into Best of 2024 because it’s that time of year and then we’ll bounce back into the full RX7 review in a couple weeks. So sorry for the delay. The review was supposed to be out a week ago, but FedEx lost our battery! (No fault of RoadRunner). -Paul
Legit cant deside Out of topic but i need a commutor scooter(single motor) I need to have 20+ miles consistently and 20+miles of real range and long lasting you have a recommendation and please do a kqi3 300x review please be direct with your recommendation thank you.
KQi 300X review is coming soon. Mitchell is going to do that one. For >20 miles of real ESG-tested-range, scooters I like include KQi3 Max, Apollo Air 2024, VMAX VX2 GT Pro, Apollo City, Ninebot MAX G2, Solar P1 3.0 We finally fixed the ridefinder tool on the ESG site. It's got all of our test data loaded there, so you can search and filter directly. -Paul electricscooterguide.com/electric-scooter-guide-ride-finder/
I am very impressed with your testing on electric scooters and have found that there a lot of clones out there that are as good as name brands without the big price tag. They are through overseas manufacturers. Iam not sure if you will agree with me on this subject, It’s a matter of knowing her to buy. Of course, scooters are from China and other countries overseas, Would like your response on it, thank you.
Bought spare battery and can go from morning to late night I just bought a smaller book bag that was perfect size for the battery and throw that on and go. Go review Paul 🤙
Oh! I’m really curious about the spare battery? How much did it cost and what’s it like riding for hours with the spare one your back? What’s the longest ride you’ve done? My favorite thing about swapping batteries, is you can go out and ride as hard as you want and not even look at the battery meter until the first battery is gone, because the second one will get you back home (as long as you didn’t go down hill the whole outbound leg) -Paul
Funny, we were just talking about this. We don't have one, but feel like it's an important scooter to cover. I hope to get one soon. I'll ping the team to see if we have one coming yet. -Paul
We test in the highest performance mode on a 1.6 mile loop that has 92 feet of climbing per loop, riding at about the same speed as the cars (urban setting). We've never tested any scooter that will go 100 miles on a charge. Have you checked your wheel diameter settings? That could also explain the indicated speed being so high. -Paul
I heard the teewing xtr has traction control so I'm curious and my question is why was the front tire spinning. Was the manual not read to proper use settings ¿
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide okay good to know for further tuning in the future best regards . I tune my Kaabo gt for less wheel spin , on my next tire change I will be putting the PMT back on but only in the front with reduced pressure and bead lock compound . I believe that would help eliminate most wheel spinning I. My future . Best regards thank you
Good luck with battery replacement. They already appear to be sold out. Had the same issue with kaabo gt pro, now im stuck with a useless scooter. Only other option is to get a custom made battery for god knows how much.
Did you have a battery fail? Have you reached out to them? The scooter hasn't been out that long, so any of the XTR's out there should still be under warranty. -Paul
This scooter has the same horn as the Arvala M11. And it's a fair bit faster. Looks like a lot of fun, but I'll stick with my M11 so I don't have to worry about potentially dying.
Ha ha! Oh no! You just reminded me that I forgot the: who is it *not* for section. I was going to do a whole thing about how every scooter on the top 10 list can kill you if you don't respect the scooter. I guess the video is pretty long as is though. Yeah, these are serious machines! -Paul
Wow, thank you so much! I always say "test day is the best day". I have so much fun nerding out over the spreadsheets. I should have put the speed curves in the video though. You'll see it when we do "Fastest 2024" . -Paul
That’s why we’ve started scoring them for all of the factors we think will impact reliability and calling out the best and worst features for reliability, it’s pretty far into the video though. -Paul
Our founder picked it when we had much slower scooters! We had no idea scooters would ever get this fast 4 years ago. It's a two man operation for the big scooters. You'll notice Ramier is there doing traffic control. -Paul
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Why wouldn’t the YUME Predator be included?
I would love to see a review on the Teverun fighter supreme ultra
Bit the bullet and bought one, it was delivered yesterday, pretty solid machine, great power, great brakes and equally good suspension (did soften pre-load on front). Needs PMT's which are next on my list. My headlight bracket needed some tweaking, eventually had to install longer bolts and spacers to keep from having to bend all the brackets (headlight is too narrow for brackets). Had to bend the kickstand outward, wouldn't stand up on it's own, thought I was gonna break the mounting bolts off but they held. I swapped the brake lever clamp and throttle around, my hands aren't small by any means but the throttle felt too far away, feels way better now. I have spoken (literally) to the Teewing on the little issues as well as text messages/emails, they are VERY prompt and professional, this means a TON, very happy with the scooter and their service!!
Enjoy your new ride!
This is what bugs me about the scooter market, every five seconds there is a new brand.
True, but every now and then we strike gold! This one definitely deserves to stay around. It's a well engineered scooter! -Paul
mars been around for years, it's just recently that Teewing started reselling them, it's actually a G-Space which has been around since 2021 or so
As long as they have good customer support
@@BH4x0r ok maybe I meant more like every five seconds there is a new scooter. Wish there was more emphasis on quality parts instead of these Chinese companies just throwing out scooters that basically use the same components with little change. It's all about high numbers and nothing else. They are still putting cheap nylon tires on 60+ mph scooters. After owning a zero 10x, wolf warrior, a couple Wepeds, Currus Panther, and now a NAMI Burn E max, I'm getting kinda tired of having to fix stuff or deal with poor manufacturing (other than Weped, which are crazy nice)
@@myplaxismodelisbetterthanyoursyeah, it’s crazy how much decent qualities tyres changes everything. PMT on all my scooters even if it’s 60 bucks a peace
Im new to scooters. Started with a simple 18mph gotrax, upgraded recently to the emove cruiser S, I haven't even attempted the approximate top speed of 30mph, 25 mph for me is more than enough. These types of scooters are for real serious adrenaline junkies. When I eventually want more speed , I'll upgrade to a nice E Bike . The technology is advancing so fast that I would only feel comfortable going 30-50 mph+ if im on a bike. These scooters are incredible but also extremely dangerous. The acceleration is more than most people can handle safely.
It's true. I meant to put a whole section in here about how any of the scooters on this list can kill you if you don't respect them. -Paul
I partly second that even though I prefer e-scooters and have never ridden any e-bike. It's just not my thing.
It's overly fast and therefore dangerous.
I prefer going like 45mph maximum.
And even going like 20mph+ on your e-scooter you still gotta be really cautious and observant, especially if you're a newbie.
I've ridden for like 2000+ miles on different e-scooters, but eventually crashed going just like 20-25mph because I got distracted just for a sec and caught a bump or a rock. Whatever.
Broke my collarbone and shoulder blade :)
6 weeks of healing and wearing a sling, 4 weeks ahead :)
So cautiousness is a key.
Scooters are especially dangerous beyond 20 miles per hour. The rider needs to be able to wear the protective gear correctly. Brace for the moment you hit the ground to give you support and reduce injuries.
@kangwang1970 For sure, anything over 25mph on a scooter is fast. I took my first nasty spill the first day I upgraded to a more powerful scooter. Instead of playing it safe and getting a feel for the ride , I foolishly decided it would be fun to hit a speed bump full throttle at 25+ mph to catch some air time. Big Mistake on my part, I crashed my brand new scooter on the first day and almost really injured myself. It was completely my fault, I thought I for sure damaged my scooter badly , but to my amazement, the only thing broken was my cell phone holder, which was just an accessory. Kudos to the build quality of the Emove Cruiser S , my body sustained far more damage than the scooter did. The only thing damaged was a little scraped paint. I now have a whole new respect for this machine and ride with gloves , light elbow pads, and a safe helmet ⛑️ 🪖 to ensure that if I ever do fall again, im more prepared and will walk away from the crash unfazed.
@@gnosis7188 Yes, the protective gear is so important that when you fall, you will be more calm and less panicked, less hurt.
I'd love to see an "ease of regular maintenance score" in your videos.
Questions asked in this section would look like:
How easy is it to change tires and/or tubes?
How easy is it to change brake components?
I really hate spending so much money on a piece of equipment that is such a headache to maintain.
Great suggestion. It has been part of the reliability score since the beginning, but we haven’t broken it out as its own thing. Most of the numbers that go into the reliability score have to do with things like warranty length and what type of tires, etc, but there is an “ease of maintenance score” that I subjectively assign, which gets calculated into the overall reliability score. -Paul
Yeah, I have a friend that mentioned he has a few scooters that he no longer rides, because he found it impossible to change tires/tubes on them. It sucks to drop hundreds/thousands on something only to not be able to use it because of a normal thing like getting a flat.
I would like to see a "Scooter Reseller Score" or SRS, as well as just performance for these scooters. How responsive are they after the sale, parts availability, warranty response and so on. So many of the newer scooters are just coming drop shipped from China or dropped shipped to a USA warehouse with little or no real after sale service. And shipping a 135 pound scooter anywhere is simply not a practical option.
The Reseller starts to become a HUGE consideration on $3000.00 and $4000.00 scooters and up.
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide- I ordered this one because of the off road abilities and it's speed on the street so I can get back off the street ASAP. I just ordered it and hope to get it soon.
This one flew under my radar, thanks for all the effort in this review, you guys are the best!!
Thanks for the kind words!
I love how you all did a poll saying what scooter we wanted to see reviewed next, and the one we got was the one that got the least amount of votes, lol.
We really tried to get the RX7 out first. FedEx literally lost the battery (Not Roadrunner's fault)
The battery ships separately from the scooter. I'm staring at an RX7 I can't ride yet. :-( -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Man, that's a huge bummer!
Hell yeah! I love to see a new scooter video each week!
We’ll keep testing and filming! I’m 1/3 way into the next one already! -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Nice! Can't wait for the RX7 video!!
They really did an excellent job with the suspension . I really love how they added the link setup for the rear (like a dirt bike) as for the front I don't have any experience, but seems good .
Yeah, the suspension really works! I think with a smoother throttle it could be even better, but as long as you’re careful with your thumb it works pretty well as is. -Paul
Sine wave controllers seems to use current control, whereas Square wave primarily use speed control. I have rode a couple sine wave current control scooters, but i love the raw power tou get from speed control. It just dumps power every single time.
Also the website says this uses FOC
Paul, Im going to buy one sir. You got me man. Sold my Wolf King a while ago been itching for another hyperscooter. The Vsett10 and others scooters I have will have to fall back and welcome big brother.
I'd actually like to see your reviews include the ACTUAL tire size listed on the sidewall of the tire. A lot of companies will just say 11" tires or something when the actual sidewall might read 90/65-6.5 or 90/60-6.5, so for those people who want to immediately swap knobbies for PMTs they can order the right size without having to wait until they get the scooter to get the correct size. Both of those sizes I listed are 11x3.5" tires but if you get the wrong one, your speedometer will be wrong.
Great recommendation! Thanks! -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide You guys include so much other info, leaving that out seems like an oversight at this point considering the number of enthusiasts who immediately swap PMT tires on.
most of these scooters fit 11x4's / 100/65-6.5
@@BH4x0r PMT makes a 90/60, 90/65, 90/50. 100/55, 105/50, and 110/55, all of which will fit 90% of these scooters but while my RS has a 90/65, I've seen several others take the 100 or 105mm wide tire. It would be nice to know which size is the CORRECT size for these scooters. Nevermind the weird scooters like the Dualtron X Limited, Yume Predator, and Teverun 7260R that are on 7" rims for which there is no PMT tire.
@@KevinPassino most Chinese make 11" scooters standard come with 100/65-6.5 and so do the Mars scooters
pmt's 100+ actually are /55 so they're a less large dia
on the other hand you can simply adjust the speed readout via the P settings so it is not really a big deal
That thing is a beast! I don't know that I really want to go that fast on a scooter, but dang, it's cool. I love that headlight.
If you turn the power down it could be a comfy cruiser with insane range! But also very heavy! -Paul
That thing's got massive torque!
So much torque! -Paul
I’ve had two scooters. Too long to explain how I got roped into buying TWO Splach scooters. DO NOT BUY SPLACH! Pieces of trash! I gave them away because I’d be mad about what I could sell them for, but I can be happy knowing a couple of youngsters have scooters to play with (and their price is RIGHT). I’m 81 years old but I’m starting to think I need another scooter.
I’m going to pick up my CYBERBEAST @ 1000 this morning. I have a 72 VOLT SurRon and a Metacycle. I like electric toys.
Thanks for all the effort you put into these videos.
Sorry about that! Stay safe out there.
After watching your reviews, got the Wolf Warrior X base model, because of the sine wave controllers and their superior speed control.
Now, after watching this review, glad I did. That thing looks more like "work" than "fun" to cooperate at full chooch.
Also that thing will go through tyres in days, and everyone loves paying for and changing escooter tyres, so that's nice.
But, sure this thing will find a market in the land of muscle cars. Where quarter mile and straight line speed is all that matters.
Thanks for sending it Paul, so I don't have to 😃
Ha ha! Happy to do it. I probably shouldn’t have been so hard on it about the throttle control in top mode. I have spent a bit of time riding it in top mode, but… I also find myself toggling it through 3 4 and 5 (top mode) a lot. -Paul
Customer support is THE most important factor when buying a new scooter, PERIOD.
This wasn’t, really, addressed in the video . NanRobot has a CA based repair center, but having owned three (X-4, D3, and D5+2.0) I can’t recommend their customer support. I heard they’ve gotten better, but it’s been several years since I bought the D5+2.0 (Black Friday sale on ESG). THIS scooter is much newer so I suspect the support may not be that good. I, now, rock the OG STORM😊
Customer support is such a tricky thing to report on too, because we tend to hear about the folks who had a bad experience, but not always the ones who have good experiences. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide very true. I, personally, bought a brand new vehicle from, whom everybody considers, one of the most popular e-businesses, this past January. I received it in a, NOT, original box. The battery was faulty; sent videos to that company along with many phone calls. Their stated that they weren’t responsible for damages during shipping.?Really?
Anyway I bought a new battery from another, older company. (MiniMotorsUSA).
Fortunately the scooter was a “removable battery” one.
I suggest that anyone purchasing a new vehicle DECLINE DELIVERY if it’s not in the original box. I should have. But I’d waited quite awhile for it, ect
Anyway, it’s all good, now.
The Teewing and RS are side by side and you can only have one. Which one are you jumping on, and why? People want to know because most don’t have the luxury of having both.
That's so hard. Someone asked this earlier. I think the RS is a much better looking scooter, being so long and low. I also prefer the throttle response of the RS. But I love the suspension, the over all power and the huge battery of the XTR. I also like that you get the big battery for a much lower price. But.... the RS looks so good. I'm really torn. When I'm on the fence, I have to watch out because I tend to gravitate toward whatever is newest, and that's not the best reason. But right now I'm fascinated by the XTR. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I too like the suspension on the xtr, but I feel the front is very limited in travel having that link connected to it. I also don’t understand how having a bigger battery than the RS it has less range.
I also got to believe that the handling between the two are very different because of the difference in the rake on the front. Can you shed some light on these differences please?
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuideBeautiful Honest Reply. Thank you 🙏 for this. Both are Definitely Modern Marvels. I lean towards the XTR too. What a Beautiful time to be alive & to experience life when Technology is at it Height Etc & to even have all these Beautiful Choices & Options. With all that said Jesus is the Only Option & Choice that matters @ the end of everything. God Bless You & all your Family, Friends & Team. Thank you 🙏 Brother.
@@tdapple1 thank you! -Paul
Thanks for the great video! Looking forward to you all getting the battery to test the RX7😁
It's killing me seeing the user videos come out and we haven't been able to ride ours yet! -Paul
Geez! Thanks for doing these reviews cause I would never! lol I’m good around the 30mph speed for me personally. I do love seeing the engineering that goes into these super scooters so thanks again for the great reviews.
Ha ha! Yeah, I really try to keep it under 40 myself! You could always turn it down and have a comfy (very long range, but heavy) cruiser! -Paul
Love your reviews, Paul. This XTR is a monster! Thanks.
Hoping you received the battery, and we see a review of rx7 soon? 🤞
It's here. We've just started testing. Because of the delay, I had to just do the speed run and unboxing, then switch to Best of 2024, because it's that time of year. So... I hope people aren't too disappointed that the first video isn't a full review. But we'll have the official top speed, at least. The RX7 first impressions video should publish very soon. Then will come Best of 2024, then we'll bounce back into the full RX7 review, but it will be a couple weeks before the full RX7 review. -Paul
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide a lot of us were hoping for a review sooner along with it being compared with other scooters for 2024. 🛴💨
Both perfect for commuting to work my neighbor has the teewingxtr he leaves to work at 3:30am it's been about 7 months he hasn't had a Problem with it yet if you're planning on riding to work or whatever gtr amd teewwing are both great they got the speed and range all around perfect scooters but overall the teewing is a better option because of the price
Thanks so much for the feedback! Great to hear that your friend's Teewing Mars XTR is holding up so well! -Paul
If they ever lower the price on this particular scooter, I'm gonna try to purchase as many as I can because this is a proper scooter well built and fast , like he said it a mixture of all the great scooter placed into one scooter and the front suspension is the best ever.. to customize this scooter would not be difficult.. as far as speed it's fast enough..
I don't know if you know or not but on my zero 10x electric scooter it comes on 10" tires but I added a custom steering damper and placed 11" tires on it and changed the p setting to 10.5" for the 11" tires I placed on it.. it's a way smoother ride and it makes the suspension softer .. so on this scooter I would replace the 11" tires with 12" tires and I can imagine how much better the total scooter would preform.. I want one of these and they should send me one for telling everyone my secret why my scooter rides better than everyone else's.. the secret is to place steering dampers and always go up in size when it comes down to the tires plus the oversized tires last alot long because you don't burn out as much on the take off...
Wow! Great info! Thanks so much for the detailed comment! -Paul
The XTR, GTR should be retested with street tires. And for scooters like these two, there should also be off road test and, for fun, the Roadster with knobbies.
Mitchell did a nice off-road video with the wolf king scooters. Unfortunately I didn’t have time to take a day for off-roading with it. -Paul
Great review It would be helpful to have info on the tyre change. Given the power info is important. Is it split rims? How hard or easy is a tyre change for people who cant get to a shop?
They’re tubeless, so almost for sure they’re solid rims. There are rare cases where you’ve got a split rim with an o-ring in the middle so you could have tubeless and split rim, but they usually make a big deal out of it if they do that and I didn’t see any mention of it, so they’ve got to be solid rims. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide So you don't know for sure? Its about maintenance keeping vibe if you don"t live close to a shop.
Wow what a Beast of a Scooter! 🤩🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hey! Good to see you! Thanks again for your Inmotion RS damper video! So helpful to other riders!
-Paul
Wow, what a beast of a scooter! Is there also an app to customize its settings?
Only for the lights, as far as I know. I didn't get good shots of it, but the dashboard gives you direct control over the settings including how hard it launches. -Paul
11:23 through 11:50
Depending on where the "finish line" is, I'm not sure your hill climbing test data is as accurate as it could be. I might be wrong but it looks like you have to apply the brakes before you reach the top of this particular hill to safely stop.
If so, are you able to hit the brakes at exactly the same spot for every run, and for every scooter that's tested? Can you apply exactly the same pressure to the brake levers for every run, for every scooter?
I think you could get more accurate data with a laser beam at the bottom of the hill that starts a timer and a laser beam say fifty yards up hill that stops the timer. Then all the test rider has to do is open the throttle and hold on. The test rider applies the brakes *after* passing the second laser. That way, the variable deceleration data *is not* an integral part of the hill climbing power data.
Great video, thanks for posting.
A review for the nami blast would be great. Feels like a hole on your testing line up since it quit a unique and iconic scooter.
I agree! Thanks for the suggestion! -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide your channel is great though and is super comprehensive. The community appreciates you all I'm sure.
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide also you guys should check out the eso 640 leg light bar. It's been absolutely amazing 2600 lumens with a super wide beam which is great for riding. It lasts like 2hr on the high setting and can reverse change phones. Its like 30 usd.
Wonder how it would feel on a set of PMT tires. Thanks for the review
Thanks so much for your support!
I think that would be the ultimate upgrade. Come to think of it, I have some that would fit courtesy of WYRD RYDS. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Would be sick to know how much it helps the spinning on the launch/low speeds and how it improves the 0-30mph times compared to the knobby's
Great review! I am about to buy a scooter and keep going back to the RS. Is it still a solid buy with all these new hyper scooters coming out?
Yea it’s solid for sure! geni.us/InmotionRS get $300 off with code RGMIDNIGHT
This one is great I have the xt
You should test some of the kukirin scooters. They're more affordable. The brand is starting to get very popular
Noted! Thank you
Great content! Like to see scooter test best dual motor solid tire long range lightweight for RV users.
Keep up the great work!
I would love to see this in Canada. Please bring it to both Vancouver and Ontario.
Thanks for watching and commenting. Is the Teewing brand unavailable in Canada? -Paul
I would like to see turn radius🔄 added to stats u consider, turning affects enjoyment and safety 🔄 Also impressed how my Kaabo WK GT still charts on best scooters in many categories after many years
That one is still maybe the best deal out there. More than the GTR and personally, for every day riding, I’d rather ride the GT than GTR because of the lower deck and higher bars. -Paul
hadnt realized Nami got dethroned on this..wow for a 3 to 2 year scooter..its really held up niclely. Mr. Sha way ahead of the curve.
Can’t wait to see what Michael Sha comes up with next. -Paul
Hey that tooless preload on the shocks is nice to have. I'm a fat guy and I usually have to raise the shocks up about an inch or so to keep from bottoming out. This thing just grab the spring and turn. No spanner needed. I found it does help to get the wheels of the ground though
I couldn’t imagine going 65mph on a standup scooter
That’s intense for sure!
Wow. Impressive, especially the battery quality/size versus the price! A couple of things I wish it didn’t have for the price. A lot of switches are generic and visible on most of the other Chinese made ones. The off road tires look like generic ones sold on a lot of other scooters. It would be nice to start seeing some more innovation and bespoke designs in those two areas…
Yeah, I feel like they got the hard parts right, like the suspension and the fire extinguisher, which I should have mentioned more than just in the intro. But the cockpit doesn’t quite keep up with the rest of it. Mainly the ECO/Turbo and signal switches. The dash is really good. -Paul
Great review I got my mars xt last week fun scooter i have a few videos up on my channel and you can actually get the scooter with on or off road tires it's a very solid scooter nice review 👍🏽
Thank you! Glad you’re enjoying your Mars XT! -Paul
I'm thinking about an FLJ-X14. This is bigger and more powerful than most on your list. Would you be able to do a review on that one please?
14" wheels. 10000 watts. 80 amp hour and was 72 volts, but might be back to 60 volts now for some reason..
Thanks for the recommendation. Very unusual specs! I think those ship directly from China. We tend not to review scooters which don't have a direct US presence. -Paul
My scooter has been customized from the inside also , I have mini motors controllers and throttle , the next thing is to places a bigger battery 60v /72v that's my next move.. everyone is confused why my zero 10x is so much faster than the zero 10x that they are riding, I won alot of money when it comes to racing....
Nice work! -Paul
Nice informative video good job guys. This scooter seems like a real deal for the price and what you get, I was looking to get the new dualtron ultra 2 2024 modell but now this really catcht my eye. The Mars XT 8000w is 150 dollar cheaper than the dualtron here in Sweden and the XTR is 200dollar more expensive than the dualtron. got some thinking to do. Been driving the Dualtron mini now for 14 months everyday to work/shopping with zero issues so i know the dualtron quality is nice. One thing you didnt mention how is the tyre changing on the Teewing?, is it fast connectors?, split rim?
It's tubeless so the rims are solid (though we are just starting to see the rare appearance of split rims on tubeless). Sorry I missed reporting on the connectors. I didn't take note of them. I'm fairly sure they're quick disconnect, but need to double check. -Paul
Never use dedicated offroad tires. Most of the time you need more dry grip. Use all season or dedicated road tires. Also I hate 12 inch tires. 10 inch for the win
Thanks for the feedback!
You guys got something in the works for testing EUCs? Maybe a whole new channel? Electric Unicycle Guide, maybe? I would love to see your stadard of testing applied to EUCs.
Eventually! It’s crazy how many good scooters there are to test though. We’d definitely need a new channel. Thank you so much for appreciating the testing! Standardized testing is my favorite thing about our channel too! -Paul
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I'll help you with EUC unboxing and first impressions. I have no qualifications but I'll still do it, lol.
@@WideLoad405 ha ha! Thanks for the offer. I tried riding one inside of ESG and just about took out a row of electric scooters! -Paul
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide there is definitely a learning curve. If you ever get the chance to take lessons from a good rider, it'll be easier to get. But you'll be familiar with at least some of the principles. Lean forward to accelerate, lean back to slow down, turn with your hips and look where you want to go. If you can ride that scooter board thing, you can ride an EUC.
i wish there was a drivers licence for e-scooter in Denmark so people can have that speed, limit speed for legal e-scooter is 20km/h here and it kinda sucks when e-bikes overtake or normal bikes for that matter, wearing helmet also with bikecylce helmet is okay but the speed is 20km/t, the one i have got a boost and max speed is 30km/h but it only boost for two sec then i have to press again to make it go a bit faster, i will take the licence if it became a legal thing.
Technically, we're only allowed to go about the same speed here in California, but the way it seems to work is if we ride at the speed of the cars or slower, we don't have any problems. Of course, the freeway is 100% off limits. They'll enforce instantly as they should. -Paul
Dang, that is a lot of scooter. The scooter war is heating up. Reminds me of the mountain bike wars of the 90s and the crotch rocket wars of the 2000s.
For sure!
This, or the Inmotion RS for the stability and suspension ?
Both are very solid!
Hey Paul, what would you pick between the inmotion RS or teewing?
That's such a tough call. I think the RS looks better. Honestly the RS has plenty of power and a nice throttle response. I like the suspension on the XTR a little better. The XTR definitely has more performance and a bigger battery. I think I could be happy with either one. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide why is the range less on the teewing with the bigger battery??
Can you compare this scooter with the new road runner RX7 and a few others that are equal I want a upgrade from my GX2
Hey do you possibly k ow when the kqi3 300x review is coming out thank you! And do you know if i should get a 300x or a maxg2 for my son its his birthday soon
We should have a review out in the next few weeks. Mitchell will be doing that one. We’ll really need to test it before being able to say what’s better about either one, but our experience with NIU has been very good. I expect that it will be very similar to our experience with the KQi3 Max but with suspension. -Paul
How long will the battery last? Not the charge, but the battery itself, which probably isn't cheap.
Should last for many many years if probably charged and stored.
What is the deference between the TEEWING and the GSPACE if i will try to look some video there it's showing that two brand and they are same look 🧐
It’s a good question. There definitely seems to be some sort of relationship, but I don’t know what it is. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide i ask them both side only the gspace replayed as for them GSPACE is the factory and TEEWING are distributor i don’t know if that is true I’m waiting for the reply of teewing
Yume escooters have made Massive Improvements to their range.
And they definitely deserve a look. (Freshly Charged did)
I'm definitely hearing a lot more about them lately. The one we have (a very old D4+) hasn't impressed me, but I've been hearing that we should take a look! Thanks for the reminder! -Paul
But keep well away from Nanrobot ! On Trustpilot,
Nanrobot got 75% 1 Star reviews ! 😣😖😫😩
Nanrobot make a D4+. Could that be what you mean ?
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Yume is the worst scooter brand ever . Mine blew both controllers with only 30 miles on the scooter . Took battery out of it and built a e bike . My Mantis King GT is a way better scooter . Not as fast but reliable .
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide: I believe the D4+ is a Nanrobot ! (Not Yume).
Unless they both make a D4+. But I doubt it
Pretty dope scooter but please Teewing, for gods sake add a motorcycle horn instead of that roadrunner sounding horn 🤣🤣
Yeah I agree I have the xt
Hey guys I am looking at purchasing the TeeWing XTR. Just wondering about the purchasing process I have messaged them via the website and they are getting back with me nicely. Asked if there were any coupons and they said I could save a little bit by doing ach directly to their Bank in New York. Does this sound okay to do and do you feel like they are trustworthy. Thanks
Interesting. There can be multiple channels to buy through and it’s hard to tell which set of folks you’re in contact with. The folks we worked with to get the scooter certainly seem like stand up folks and they’ve been around for a while, but when it comes to multi thousand dollar purchases I always feel more comfortable using credit cards.
You can use this link
geni.us/MarsXTR
And code ESG50 to save $50
And full-disclosure it helps us fund the research it takes to make more reviews if you use either of them.
-Paul
Thanks so much @@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
Thank you!
-Paul
i do uber eats and doordash on escooter and the teewing mars xtr is fixing to be my next ride for doing so and i cant wait :)
I'm contemplating on the mars I have the GTR for a month and so far an awesome scooter if it weren't for the controller failure seems it has overheating issues and crap I'm ready to send it back and get this one
We do like the xtr! Check the link in description for latest pricing and code
Would it take a 12" hybrid tire and would you recommend that?
We have not explored that!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Ya, just was wondering if .... but this is so close to the Kaabo gtr, looks better, cheaper, and with a much larger battery? Better suspension? IDK .4mph slower?? (somewhere around there)? Looking at my finance options as we speak. Thank You!! Just would like the 12 " tire to seal the deal
The deck cover has the same aesthetic as Teverun. Same factory?
Hard to say. I'm just getting to know the brand, so I don't know the particulars about where they're made or if they are relatred to other companies at all. -Paul
Did your RX7 battery come in yet? Is Teewing looking to go Sinewave in this model eventually? That's really my only reservation about it, so much power and so little modularity in the throttle response. Such a beast though...
It’s here. We just started testing!
I haven’t heard anything about whether the Teewing Mars XTR will go sinewave at some point. -Paul
Nice. I put 100 miles on mine already and after looking past some little things the ride has been great so far. The throttle is extremely smooth and modular. I feel like it is going to do well in that hill climb test. Can't wait to see the numbers it puts up.
Hey Paul! Where can i find the acceleration numbers 0-20, 0-30, 0-40 for the this scooter and the Emove roadster so we can compare them to the GTR etc!?
Try our website! Stats should be there.
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide the acceleration figures for the Emove roadster and the treeing are not on your website. I love checking your website and comparing all the acceleration times for the diff scooters!
PLEASE try the arvala m10, im planning on buying one and im just getting mixed signals everywhere
I got an M11 a few weeks ago, it's such a sick ride but oh boy is it heavy. There's a few things that I wish they'd change, in particular the signal lighting so that it can be seen during the daytime, but otherwise is an epic ride. I also had some issues with the app initially but got it working the next day.
Thanks for the suggestion! I'll check out the spec sheet! -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide OH MY GOD MY PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERRRRRRRRRRRRRREDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, it's fast. Yes, it's powerful. Yes, it's scary as hell riding at 60mph... because you know it's quick-design Chinese engineering. When will they come out with a scooter that foregoes all that insane potential speed, silly RGB lights and silly erector-set aesthetics for something that is solid quality, cool and smart aesthetics, efficient performance and made to last for 15 years under harsh conditions. I think that would sell. Closest thing I've found is my Okai Panther.. but while that looks good, it's still not made to last. It is possible though to make serious quality that lasts.... BMW, Mercedes, Honda and Volvo did it in the 1970's and 1980's with cars and motorcycles... they were bombproof, crazy reliable and also moderately priced.
Nanrobot LS7+ 72 V is in the top line up too!
I have one of this mars xtr and them things are a beast
No way! Awesome! What tires are you using? -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I'm using the off road tires on them but I do have some road tires just haven't installed them yet but I can tell u that the off road tires work very good when it comes to riding on off road and bumpes are nothing
0:53 thought he said Bernie Mac's 😂
Paul can u review the rx7 plz...cant find any on utube..
I’m testing and filming the first part this week. We’ll have a first impressions video and speed run out by the end of the week. Then I have to jump into Best of 2024 because it’s that time of year and then we’ll bounce back into the full RX7 review in a couple weeks. So sorry for the delay. The review was supposed to be out a week ago, but FedEx lost our battery! (No fault of RoadRunner). -Paul
Is the suspension as good or better than the RS?
Better. The RS is very good, but the C-shape suspension of the RS tends to overwhelm the damping from these tiny hydraulic shocks. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide so it’s better on the teewing?
Legit cant deside Out of topic but i need a commutor scooter(single motor) I need to have 20+ miles consistently and 20+miles of real range and long lasting you have a recommendation and please do a kqi3 300x review please be direct with your recommendation thank you.
KQi 300X review is coming soon. Mitchell is going to do that one.
For >20 miles of real ESG-tested-range, scooters I like include KQi3 Max, Apollo Air 2024, VMAX VX2 GT Pro, Apollo City, Ninebot MAX G2, Solar P1 3.0
We finally fixed the ridefinder tool on the ESG site. It's got all of our test data loaded there, so you can search and filter directly. -Paul
electricscooterguide.com/electric-scooter-guide-ride-finder/
Does the company carry all replacement parts?
Yes they should
I am very impressed with your testing on electric scooters and have found that there a lot of clones out there that are as good as name brands without the big price tag. They are through overseas manufacturers. Iam not sure if you will agree with me on this subject, It’s a matter of knowing her to buy. Of course, scooters are from China and other countries overseas, Would like your response on it, thank you.
We only test the name brands! Because of distribution and costumer service for the costumer.
Full motorcycle gear. Smart man.
Out of all these scooters which would be the best off pavement scooter?
We like the GTR slightly better! Please check the links in description for best pricing.
Bought spare battery and can go from morning to late night I just bought a smaller book bag that was perfect size for the battery and throw that on and go. Go review Paul 🤙
Oh! I’m really curious about the spare battery? How much did it cost and what’s it like riding for hours with the spare one your back? What’s the longest ride you’ve done?
My favorite thing about swapping batteries, is you can go out and ride as hard as you want and not even look at the battery meter until the first battery is gone, because the second one will get you back home (as long as you didn’t go down hill the whole outbound leg) -Paul
Hey Paul, do you guys have a review coming out on the Segway E2 Pro anytime soon?
Funny, we were just talking about this. We don't have one, but feel like it's an important scooter to cover. I hope to get one soon. I'll ping the team to see if we have one coming yet. -Paul
Yup, I decided to go with a KQi 2 Pro for the summer!
You guys need to take a look at the Teverun Fighter Supreme 7260R. It has a 60Ah battery, and it's fast.
We will check it out thanks
Not sure how u did the inmotion RS range test but I got 102 miles on one charge on mine.. Also got it up to 72mph on the display
Depends on rider weight and riding conditions
We test in the highest performance mode on a 1.6 mile loop that has 92 feet of climbing per loop, riding at about the same speed as the cars (urban setting).
We've never tested any scooter that will go 100 miles on a charge. Have you checked your wheel diameter settings? That could also explain the indicated speed being so high. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide my GPS also read 102 miles.. It was accurate I was just doing 10-15mph the whole ride
I heard the teewing xtr has traction control so I'm curious and my question is why was the front tire spinning. Was the manual not read to proper use settings ¿
Yes manual was read! Still too much power so it will have some spin regardless.
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide okay good to know for further tuning in the future best regards . I tune my Kaabo gt for less wheel spin , on my next tire change I will be putting the PMT back on but only in the front with reduced pressure and bead lock compound . I believe that would help eliminate most wheel spinning I. My future . Best regards thank you
Which one is your top 5 favorite e scooter
Our list should be coming soon!
How is the range?
plenty for most riders for sure
I think it was inspired by the wkgt, it’s a cross from that and a dualtron
Definitely some strong resemblances. -Paul
Good luck with battery replacement. They already appear to be sold out.
Had the same issue with kaabo gt pro, now im stuck with a useless scooter. Only other option is to get a custom made battery for god knows how much.
Did you have a battery fail? Have you reached out to them? The scooter hasn't been out that long, so any of the XTR's out there should still be under warranty. -Paul
Definitely need to review the Yume Predator! It's a beast! 13" tires, 72V 50Ah battery, $3699
Thanks for the suggestion. 50Ah is huuuuge! -Paul
Can you guys please do a review of the iscooter 650w 25 mph 28 mile range
Thanks for the suggestion. I’ll check out the specs. -Paul
Has you guys run that with the Teverun fighter supreme ??
Not yet!
I am confused should i go with apollo go 2024 or with apollo city 2024, if there is any other scooter around this budget let me know please
Go with the city for sure! It’s zippier and has a larger battery! Use code RIDERGUIDE for $50 off your order geni.us/ApolloCityProNew
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide okay thank you , and is there any better option or shoud i look for other scooter my budget is around 1800cad.
This is on my list for sure. I have to ask about the tire changing. The motor cable removable?
Oh no! I can't believe I missed that detail. Most are these days, and I believe these are too, but I need to check! -Paul
How about reviewing the Teewing XT vs XTR, what is different, speed and power... Etc.
We should be reviewing it soon!
Is this faster then wild king get off the line?
Very close
I like the TEEWING MARS XTR. Could you do a video on the in-motion RS V TEEWING XTR😊
Review the yinke i7 this may top them all!
I've been wondering when we'd see that one come out. We loved their i5. We still have it here. -Paul
How does The handlebar to deck height compare to the gt pro?
Similar
This scooter has the same horn as the Arvala M11. And it's a fair bit faster. Looks like a lot of fun, but I'll stick with my M11 so I don't have to worry about potentially dying.
Ha ha! Oh no! You just reminded me that I forgot the: who is it *not* for section. I was going to do a whole thing about how every scooter on the top 10 list can kill you if you don't respect the scooter. I guess the video is pretty long as is though. Yeah, these are serious machines! -Paul
Best Scooter Tester.. thanks❤
Wow, thank you so much! I always say "test day is the best day". I have so much fun nerding out over the spreadsheets. I should have put the speed curves in the video though. You'll see it when we do "Fastest 2024" . -Paul
The last comment is right. A lot of competition. No reliability tests.
That’s why we’ve started scoring them for all of the factors we think will impact reliability and calling out the best and worst features for reliability, it’s pretty far into the video though. -Paul
that shirt is dope! 🛴
Thank you! My wife got it for me a while ago. It's actually not even an electric scooter, but a trick scooter, but I still love it. -Paul
Kinda seems like these gigantic scooters should have two front brakes like motorcycles
lol why pick a road that ends with a T-junction and a stop sign for the hill climb? ;o]]
Our founder picked it when we had much slower scooters! We had no idea scooters would ever get this fast 4 years ago. It's a two man operation for the big scooters. You'll notice Ramier is there doing traffic control. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide good, safety first
props for sticking with it anyway for consitency though ;o]]
You should review the splach titan scooter.
Thanks for the suggestion! -Paul