I also own the XTR and it is the best, I'm beyond pleased. Don't forget that the XTR has Cruise Control while Yume doesn't offer it on any model. XTR has superior suspension design and this is the real reason it's more stable at high speeds... So much so that you don't even need a stabilizer. As for the FOS controller you forgot to mention that you have complete control of the TAKEOFF Power in the BIOS (1-5), I would never go back to a standard sine wave controller. But the main point here is that you can't really compare by specs, talk to any of us that bought an XTR it's the real deal.
I guess it depends on what you are looking for really. I would really enjoy trying either of them out. But I am never likely to ride either of them at very high speeds and I never use cruise control. I am glad you really like it!!
@jeffmoody2831 if you haven't changed out the tires yet. I got good news for ya. The wires are super long. Front ya clip some zip ties and ya got a couple feet. On the back there is a screw on the bottom of the swing arm that holds the wire in place. Get a milk crate and there is absolutely no need to unplug the motors
I own the xtr. It's bad assed. The xtr is an foc sine wave controller. It can be a little jerky if you dont change speeds when going slow. I really like yume products as As i own a raptor as well but when sitting in front of ya that mars xtr is super premium. Teewing is working on ul listing at this point. And they use the samsung 50 gb 21700 batteries. Hope to see some preditor owners on here to sing it's praises.
Thanks for the insight!! I thought I saw a review that stated they were square wave controllers, but thanks for the clarification. I have been watching and waiting for Teewing to have UL Listing as well.
@ElectricScooterGuy paul from electric scooter guide said that. And I can see his point. There is very little free play on the throttle. But once you get the hang of the throttle inputs it smooths out for ya.
@@ElectricScooterGuy- Mine is camouflage and came with the knobby tires (which are perfect for my use case). I think the black color comes with hybrid tires which make less noise.
Many apologies, I completely forgot to get back to you on how to correctly calculate how many max watts an Electric Scooter makes. It is volts x controller x number of controllers: XTR has 2 65 Amp controllers and it's a 72 volt system (72 volts max charge is ~84 volts). This means (84)(65)(2)=10,920 watts max. The predator has 60 Amp controllers so it's max is less (84)(60)(2)=10080 watts max.
Are you sure you were supposed to be getting back to me or someone else? I don't see or recall a conversation about how to correctly calculate max scooter power.
@ElectricScooterGuy - Poor word choices on my part, I had intended to mention it originally but did not remember until just now. The most important part in determining the speed of a particular eScooter is usually the amount of watts the system produces. Tire size and weight are very important also and to a lesser extent the AH of the battery.
@ElectricScooterGuy I would just suggest calling him comparisons instead of versus. I watch the whole video expecting to see actual footage. Since if you ride scooters you know riding is the only true comparison. Not trying to be real critical just any other verses video I might see actually has them riding them. As an XTR owner we know those 2 scooters don't don't match up at all. The XTR is getting considered a budget scooter by many since the price is so nice when in fact it's almost top of the line. Even the square wave controller isn't a typical square wave controller. Sorry not trying to be a dick.
@@joshwolters4549 I understand what you mean, but I don't even use the word "review" in these videos. Versus is a comparison. I know most of the scooter channels run their channels similar to what you are describing and therefore you have certain expectations. But my channel is a bit unique and that's intentional. I make videos almost everyday and I am covering them on a daily basis. I appreciate your feedback and I don't think you are being anything other than honest about how you feel. I have been educated about the FOC controllers after I made that video, but I got that information from an "expert" who did have the scooter when going over the specs. So even that doesn't necessarily guarantee accuracy. I hope you stick around, but I understand if it is not your kind of content. Thanks again for the feedback! 🙂
I also own the XTR and it is the best, I'm beyond pleased. Don't forget that the XTR has Cruise Control while Yume doesn't offer it on any model. XTR has superior suspension design and this is the real reason it's more stable at high speeds... So much so that you don't even need a stabilizer. As for the FOS controller you forgot to mention that you have complete control of the TAKEOFF Power in the BIOS (1-5), I would never go back to a standard sine wave controller. But the main point here is that you can't really compare by specs, talk to any of us that bought an XTR it's the real deal.
I guess it depends on what you are looking for really. I would really enjoy trying either of them out. But I am never likely to ride either of them at very high speeds and I never use cruise control. I am glad you really like it!!
@jeffmoody2831 if you haven't changed out the tires yet. I got good news for ya. The wires are super long. Front ya clip some zip ties and ya got a couple feet. On the back there is a screw on the bottom of the swing arm that holds the wire in place. Get a milk crate and there is absolutely no need to unplug the motors
I own the xtr. It's bad assed. The xtr is an foc sine wave controller. It can be a little jerky if you dont change speeds when going slow. I really like yume products as As i own a raptor as well but when sitting in front of ya that mars xtr is super premium. Teewing is working on ul listing at this point. And they use the samsung 50 gb 21700 batteries. Hope to see some preditor owners on here to sing it's praises.
Thanks for the insight!! I thought I saw a review that stated they were square wave controllers, but thanks for the clarification. I have been watching and waiting for Teewing to have UL Listing as well.
@ElectricScooterGuy paul from electric scooter guide said that. And I can see his point. There is very little free play on the throttle. But once you get the hang of the throttle inputs it smooths out for ya.
@@ChrisHirner Ahhh, that could have been it! I figured it wouldn't be too difficult to get used to. Did you get PMTs?
@@ElectricScooterGuy- Mine is camouflage and came with the knobby tires (which are perfect for my use case). I think the black color comes with hybrid tires which make less noise.
@@jeffmoody2831 Nice! I was just curious if you switched or tried PMTs.
Many apologies, I completely forgot to get back to you on how to correctly calculate how many max watts an Electric Scooter makes. It is volts x controller x number of controllers: XTR has 2 65 Amp controllers and it's a 72 volt system (72 volts max charge is ~84 volts). This means (84)(65)(2)=10,920 watts max. The predator has 60 Amp controllers so it's max is less (84)(60)(2)=10080 watts max.
Are you sure you were supposed to be getting back to me or someone else? I don't see or recall a conversation about how to correctly calculate max scooter power.
@ElectricScooterGuy - Poor word choices on my part, I had intended to mention it originally but did not remember until just now. The most important part in determining the speed of a particular eScooter is usually the amount of watts the system produces. Tire size and weight are very important also and to a lesser extent the AH of the battery.
@@jeffmoody2831 Thanks for the info! 🙂
A review without riding them. Really?
Yes, I even cover scooters that I don't own. 🤷♂Sorry to disappoint you....
@ElectricScooterGuy I would just suggest calling him comparisons instead of versus. I watch the whole video expecting to see actual footage. Since if you ride scooters you know riding is the only true comparison. Not trying to be real critical just any other verses video I might see actually has them riding them. As an XTR owner we know those 2 scooters don't don't match up at all. The XTR is getting considered a budget scooter by many since the price is so nice when in fact it's almost top of the line. Even the square wave controller isn't a typical square wave controller. Sorry not trying to be a dick.
@@joshwolters4549 I understand what you mean, but I don't even use the word "review" in these videos. Versus is a comparison. I know most of the scooter channels run their channels similar to what you are describing and therefore you have certain expectations. But my channel is a bit unique and that's intentional. I make videos almost everyday and I am covering them on a daily basis. I appreciate your feedback and I don't think you are being anything other than honest about how you feel. I have been educated about the FOC controllers after I made that video, but I got that information from an "expert" who did have the scooter when going over the specs. So even that doesn't necessarily guarantee accuracy. I hope you stick around, but I understand if it is not your kind of content. Thanks again for the feedback! 🙂