Nobody is a bigger Hyundai/Genesis fan than me. I have been a Loyal customer since 2003. I bought my first brand new car 1999 a 2000 Chrysler Sebring LXI. That car in 2002 immediately after I lost my 3 year 36k miles warranty gave me nothing but problems. It spent more time in the shop than it did on the road. A friend of mine towards the end of 2003 offered me a car cheap. It was her 2000 Elantra. She knew I was having issues getting to work. I said ok I’ll buy it as I needed a car and I was to far upside down on my 5 year lease. I gave that Elantra to my brother in 2017 with 177k miles on it. When I bought it back in 03 it had 62k. Besides the routine maintenance, the only money I spent on that car was a exhaust and new wires, plugs , and all fluid change. I had purchased a few new Hyundai’s since getting rid of that Sebring, but kept that Elantra. It hurt to give it to my bro, but he was in need. I watched closely what Hyundai has been doing since then. Watched how they first brought great reliability to the brand, how they turned Kia around, watched how they stepped out of the shadows of Honda & Toyota. Then around 2013 really started putting the hammer down on all other manufacturers. Giving consumers much more for their money. I should have started my own review channel back then as I have family that only buys Ford or GM. I started comparing my vehicles to there’s back then and would notice huge difference especially within the price difference. . Hyundai many years ago was the company following from back of the line. Now they are all by themselves the leaders of all manufacturers. Honda, Toyota, Nissan realized in 2015 that they need to play catch up, Hyundai made those guys copy cats. Chevy has yet to figure out, although they are copying Hyundai vehicles exterior styling, but still far behind everywhere else. Ford start figuring out about a year ago, but still far behind. Think about this, it was the Hyundai Palisade which we own, that made Cadillac to step up there game. We had got a 2019 Palisade Limited same year my cousin and his wife got a Escalade. I put them 2 through a complete comparison and proved to my cousin in almost ALL aspects that our Palisade was better. I found the Escalade to have slightly less cabin noise. I liked the materials better on the Palisade, far better safety features, bigger 10.2 inch infotainment, a 12.3 inch digital dash compared to analog and a 7 inch helper screen. A class leading highway driving assistant compared to what ever that was. A better sound system and overall better vehicle with a far better warranty. Then I see a popular review site Throttle House said the same thing I did, that the Hyundai Palisade was a better vehicle than a Cadillac Escalade. Here was the real sad difference. We paid 46k and my cousin paid 78k. That was a absolute joke to me and ensured me I would never buy outside of Hyundai/Genesis. My cousin and his wife had the biggest attitude’s. I said don’t get pissed at me, I did build and sell this to you, Cadillac did. Well 2 years later you could see all of the design and technology feature changes Cadillac made that are quite obviously influenced from the Hyundai Palisade. Pretty sad when a company that’s been around 50 years longer and adds a 2, 3 and even 4X heftier price tag needs to copy a non luxury brands tech and styling
Thank you both for the details regarding the storage size and access. This is missed in most reviews, yet is one of the most important factors over the life of the vehicle.
Got my Ionic 5, according Jim Paterson North shore Hyundai (Great team by the way) mine was the second 2023 Ionic 5 delivery in Canada, yes it does smell fresh! I feel that ultimately the Ionic 5 is the most practical of the two choices, so spacious, quiet and love the driving dynamics, maybe not a luxury performance car, but it does everything so well and is no slouch either!
I really don't understand why it would be a 2023 model if you literally got it this year. You're talking about the updates they made for this years Ioniq 5
Today I am heading to North Vancouver to pickup my Ionic 5 top trim, and yes I am getting that black trim kit. Over all I bought this for the very large back doors and space for my elderly parents, much more space than either my Kia Soul EV. Range on the Ionic 5 may exceed the GV60, although I like the GV60 interior and controls I think ionic wins for practicality.
Hyundai Ioniq 5 and 6, Kia EV6 and Genesis GV60. All E-GMP, you buy any one of them and you won't be disappointed. Saw a GV60 for the first time yesterday. I really like it. It's quite understated.
WOW, hands down the best review and comparison to date. You guys touched on the finer details(I.e., 10” shorter panoramic roof, soft end of turn steering wheel feel, non sliding rear seats, shorter more narrow trunk and LED location or lack of) that no other reviewers have. One item most forget to mention are the larger better brakes all GV60s come with. Love your beautiful family too ❤
Fun review. Expensive, though not in Tesla price terms. Factoring in all car sales, the average electric car here in the United States is priced at 76,000 dollars! I like the rotating crystal ball on the GV60. I wonder if it can be used in a Seance to predict when itself will break?
Thanks. We’ve just entered into rainy season as we’ve had the driest summer ever so it hasn’t been an issue. We knew what we were getting into though so it’s not surprise however still not a fan 😂
Got a company car with stickers on the rear windshield. So I do habe wipers but they don't work. Never thought about it until discussions about the ionic 5 started. Basically rear wipers are not needed. For parking you got the cameras and depending on your model, the mirror is also digital so you actually never look through the rear window. But even if you don't have them there is rarely an occasion were that's a problem.
This was very helpful and terrible at the same time because now I'm even more confused about what to get... I am a Kia, Hyundai, Genesis fan Chip shortage delayed the purchase of the GV70 I wanted, now I'm looking again and I never thought I would want an electric car until these two popped up!!!
Thanks for this one, vey helpful. Don‘t know if it were just the mics you used, but the difference in road and wind noise in your driving shots was VERY noticeable. Haven‘t driven the GV60 yet, but the IONIQ 5 - and the latter had been very smooth and quiet already. Second thing I noticed with the white / cream interior are the stains on the steering wheel. Bright interiors need a lot of cleaning.
Yes didn’t even notice the stains on the back of the wheel until after i shot it. 2 different mics and crazy thing is that it’s the expansive one that picked up more noise. Thanks
Hyundai Motor should have included these wipers on cold regions. In California, its not a big deal. But in Canada, sure yea I think I understand their issue.
Regarding no rear wiper, I don't miss it in my EV6. I was on a highway in Central PA and noticed that raindrops just sat on the glass and didn't stream down at speed. It works really well and I tend to he a stickler about rear wipers.
Good review. Thank you. I just subscribed. Question: did you notice a difference in steering tightness between the two? Is one of them tighter aka requires a bit more force to turn, than the other?
@@EverydayReviews2022 thanks. That’s my only real gripe with my Ioniq 5 Limited AWD. I find the steering too light, even in Sports mode. I prefer it’s looks over the GV60. I don’t feel I need the extra power of the GV60 Performance, and I don’t want to spend the extra. But that steering may just push me to the GV60 unless I can figure out how to make the Ioniq tighter.
Hello from Vancouver Island , great review . I have had the Ioniq 5 on order now for almost a year now its been put back again untill Sept 2023. 7 weeks ago i made a phone call and within 2 days i had the choice of 2 GV 60 Advance and Performance after driving both other than the extra power with the boost button i really could not tell the difference so I went with the Advance i have now driven 7000 KLM love the car very hard to find any fault with it , If i could add or change anything i would have loved the sliding centre console and maybe a deeper one its a little small. I have been getting great range avg 470 to 490 KLM twice i have been over 500KLM so very happy with that. I was in very heavy rain last week in Seattle on the I5 no problem with rear view window in the rain i have coated my glass which does help. I agree the cost of the car is a little high this one cost $85K taxes in and of course no money back as the car is above the $65K. Again thanks loved your video.
Great news. I don’t think the rear window suffers at all with the spray as the Ioniq 5 does. Our GV60 window was pretty well clear driving the exact same route. What colour did you get to choose from?
@@EverydayReviews2022 I got Barossa Burgundy it was the only choice in the Advance I like it it does not so the dirt and changes colour in the sunlight. The performance was the Hanauma Mint which I really liked but that light colour inside would not work for me but its really stunning . I did the ceramic coat on mine easy to do yourself the cost was about $70.00 . So you did the US trip I thought that it was costing a lot more to charge in the US i used electrify America they were very fast the last charge i did cost $29.00 US going from 30% to 80% it took 14 mins.I do most of my charging from home still on the 110v i am going to install a level 2 soon. do you have a level 2 charger at home . I am driving to Penticton next week I go via Manning Park so I will be very interested how the car does going through the Mountains .
@@EverydayReviews2022 I am just about to add one at my home I was thinking of the Grizzl-E or Chargepoint but I just read about the Emporia , I know 2 people using the Grizzl -E and Chargepoint and are very happy as you said you always charge at home what are your thoughts , its also nice we get the $350 rebate still here on them .
The GV60 is more expensive, but it’s the superior car. That’s by design: Hyundai doesn’t want to compete with the EV6 or GV60. All of them simply want to compete with the Tesla Model Y. To a lesser extent, they outperform the Tesla Model 3 for a better price.
Thanks for the deep dive into both EVs. Ioniq5 is on my shortlist for sure but didn’t know Genesis made a comparable (though more expensive) car. Hyundai still wins for that cool retro styling though.
Great video, thanks. The comparison is entertaining - but, when one car costs $20k more, well, it's not comparing like for like, is it? I love my basic Ioniq 5, and plan on test driving the GV60, but in the UK, there's a very significant price differential that probably means the GV60 will remain on my Wishlist for some time...
Great review guys! Do you recall the exterior/interior colors for the genesis? Yours appears very white on the interior which is exactly what I'm looking for, but on the build page for genesis the lightest you can get is ash.
How long did you wait for Ioniq 5? I ordered mine in December and am on track for late 2023 delivery. I'm in Ontario. I suspect they prioritize BC and QC due to your ZEV mandates.
@@EverydayReviews2022 I ordered Preferred with Ultimate. Though I’ve also got my name 1st on the list at a local Mitsubishi dealer, so I might get the Outlander PHEV first.
it's all about 5:40 for me. That design of the Ioniq 5 is so rugged. I think GV60 looks more sophisticated and perhaps more feminine (which is a good thing), but that Ioniq 5 design is also special. When Ioniq 5N comes out, it'll have both the generational design and the performance!
Are you sure you can't set automatic parking brake in the settings on the Hyundai? I assume you already looked for it. I'm kinda surprised by that because several Toyotas have that feature.
I Have an ioniq 5 and taking delivery of gv60 at end of November.....couldn't agree more that they hopefully make an update with auto lock when walking away. It's particularly perplexing it doesn't auto lock considering the handles stick out when unlocked just screaming out to potential thieves "hey, I'm unlocked".
I know. It already does it if you have the Auto Unlock and you walk up and don’t open and walk away. Please Hyundai 🙏 Please. As I said, I saw on a forum that other markets have the option in their menu to activate this feature. Did you get the Performance or Advanced? Are you keeping your I5 as well or trading it in?
Can never fault anyone for buying the Ioniq 5 as, for me, it's the best looking vehicle, amazing charging as it's the fastest available (I believe it's even faster than a Tesla, tho yes, the Supercharging Network is still larger...for now), amazing tech, thoughtful interior, more pliant ride vs Tesla, comprehensive warranty etc. Tho, yes, the Genny is an AMAZING looking and performing vehicle. Personally. want the Genesis GV70 SUV (really impressed with the test drive) but waiting for the Genesis GV70 Electrified due out next year. Keep up the amazing work!
The ioniq 5 is an amazing EV especially at its price point rebates etc. the GV60 is great and really the best of the 5 and the Kia EV 6, but I dont think it is 9K-20K better. We have a model 3 LR, and like it alot but the interior is very minimalistic as Tesla designed it. What is amazing about the Tesla is the over the air updates via Wifi. We have only owned it for a few months and have done 2 updates which were scheduled and done while we we sleeping. Keep the reviews coming they are awesome!
These also have ota updates as well but from what I’ve read, they don’t have many updates especially compared to Tesla. Tesla seems to have the upper hand in the tech department.
Very good review. I have a Hyundai Sonata, 2017 vintage. The engine failed, but Hyundai replaced it under warranty. I have noticed that Hyundai has a very forward looking/advanced view of technology. My dad went from Lincoln to Lexus, after looking at Mercedes. But I am now very interested in Hyundai. The Genisis brand is very interesting. I'm keeping an eye on that. Thank yuo for the review.
the Ionic 5 looks to be the one. My issues with the GV60 are that it appears to be smaller in terms of interior comfort and the exterior styling screams Mary-K. The curves are too soft for my taste. That said, excellent review and you have yourselves a new subscriber :)
The default regen on our 2020 Ioniq EV can be customized to your desired level so maybe that's also available on the Ioniq 5. Great review on these 2 ev's.
I think I’ll get that feature on the next firmware update as well as some other useful features like being able to turn on seat/steering wheel heat by voice command.
I love my i5 but really want a rear wiper. I'd trade up if they brought out a model with a rear wiper! In Australia the GV60 costs $35K more than the top i5 and the eGV70 is not built on the eGMP platform so it is not a good substitute for the i5. Like you, I'm looking forward to the i5N coming in 2023 but fear it will sacrifice ground clearance and ride harshness which I'm reluctant to do.
I wonder if there was a rear spoiler on the back like the GV60, if it would help block the spray. I might do a mock up and try it out one day when I get some time. Wiper would really be nice
@@EverydayReviews2022 I think the rake of the i5 rear is too steep for a spoiler, and the quasi spoiler at the top of the rear window is completely ineffectual if it is intended to provide a rain-clearing downdraft.
I like the exterior paint color on the Genesis. But the exterior styling on the Hyundai is better. Also the Hyundai's larger dimensions are better. I don't get why they made the Genesis smaller.
My neighbor has the Ioniq and it is noisy and he says he gets rough rides and says maybe the suspension does adjust to the street and it happens even on my truck when it’s cold.
So new vehicles without a spare tire, do they come with an inflation device and a patch kit as a quicker alternative to calling a tow service and possibly waiting an hour and a half to get your vehicle to a shop?
@@EverydayReviews2022 the waitlist for Ioniq 5 Ultimate was minimum 1 year 2021, and when you ask dealerships now its 3-5 years in the lower mainland... did you also put a deposit down in 2021 is my question.
Lack of rear wiper is especially annoying with the Ioniq because it could easily be hidden under the rear spoiler so its not as if it would spoil the look for anyone that cares..
The Model Y has more room especially under the rear floor and the frunk but it has nothing for the interior compared to either of these cars in my opinion. I would like to do a Genesis GV60 VW Model Y comparison one day.
The Ioniq 5/EV6/GV60 are a great effort from Hyundai/Kia; of the three I like the GV60 the most, although the EV6 GT performance/cost ratio can't be ignored, Ioniq 5 is the most practical of the three. I'm looking forward to the Ioniq6 and it's Genesis counterpart however, I just don't want a CUV. Hopefully Genesis makes a wagon version if the Ioniq6 in a performance variant, I'll be one of the four to five people in the US that buys it. I have a Lexus IS350 Fsport, my wife has a 2022 Sorento PHEV, we would have gone all electric for her if there had been a 3-row on the market (Model Y third row is useless, also ~73k MSRP when configured vs. the 50k for the Sorento PHEV); I'll be looking to move from the Lexus in the next ~3 years or so, hopefully there is something on the market I want, thankfully it's a Lexus so if there isn't I'm not particularly worried about reliability.
By the way, using the Ioniq 5’s voice recognition to turn on the heated or ventilated seats works well to avoid having to go to the screen. Just say “Turn on driver seat warming” or “Turn on passenger seat warming”
@@EverydayReviews2022 right, I know. When you’re in CarPlay, a short press uses the car’s native voice control, while a long press uses Siri/CarPlay. I used a short press and the regular car’s voice recognition screen showed up on the right of the screen, which is when I used voice to do this.
The crystal ball serves a purpose! I know when the car is off😉. And shifting gears is very easy with rotating wheel. GV60 worth extra money for the extra luxurious features! Including super quiet ride!
I have to disagree w/ your assessment. I love our Ioniq 5 Limited and based on the glowing reviews, I thought I would love the GV60 even more. So I got the GV60 performance w/ the intention of replacing the Ioniq 5. Everyone in the family ended up disliking the GV60. Yes...the GV60 is quieter and has a nicer interior, but it had more irritating wind noise and less functional utility - especially for the family. I actually didn't care for the ride - i felt it was stiffer and rode heavier. I much prefer the lighter and more airy ride of the Ioniq. The kids didn't care for the GV60 b/c it felt more claustrophobic in the 2nd row w/ smaller windows and much less leg & feet room. This made a difference as my husbands 6-3 and there was no legroom sitting behind him in the GV60. The performance was also overwhelming and out right dangerous with way too much tire spin if the wheels are not pointed straight. Maybe I would have preferred the lower Advance trim, but I don't think the Performance was worth the $14k usd over the ioniq. We sold the GV60 as it sat unused as we all gravitated toward the Ioniq instead. I'm not saying the GV60 is a bad car, but I much prefer the Ioniq for the daily family practically, the airy cabin and lower price.
I forgot to add, HDA2 in the Ioniq is so much better than the older HDA1 in the gv60, esp on long road trips. It’s smoother and more confident inspiring.
Thanks for the detailed first hand comment. As I said as well, for family the I5 for sure. You definitely have to be ready to handle the rush of power from the GV60 especially with the Boost but once you get used to it, it’s pretty amazing. I prefer the styling of the I5 as well.
@@EverydayReviews2022 I forgot to mention that I also got the Ioniq based on your prior review and the fact you guys were also thinking of getting it. We love it. It’s not perfect, but I think it’s one of the best car for the price.
Since you’ve owned both, perhaps you can help me. I have an Ioniq 5 Limited AWD now (equivalent of the one in this review in the US). The one thing that I really miss compared to my previous cars is tight steering. Even in sports mode, I find the steering too light. I also wish it had the “My Mode” that allowed me to use the tighter sport steering, but with normal or eco mode for the rest like the GV60 has. Did you notice a significant difference in steering weight between the two? Outside of the interior luxury and the steering, I prefer everything else about the Ioniq. Maybe switching to 21” wheels will help with steering, but I doubt it because the contact patch is still the same.
I have had a Tesla Model 3 through three New England winters. The flush handles do freeze but if I turn on the climate control about 30 minutes before I want to leave the heat-soak is enough to loosen them. Also, don't forget to switch off the automatic folding mirrors. You could easily strip gears or burn out the motors if the mirror freezes. But the worst part of the Tesla is the franeless windows. They freeze too and they're the hardest to free up. I curse the stylist who insisted on using them. They're awful.
I kind of like the kammback styling of GV60 but overall the IONIQ 5 is the more interesting better designed EV. Do wish Hyundai/Genesis Group would put back in place rear wipers because honestly and common sense tell you can't just depend on aerodynamics to totally wipe off debris within those rear windows.
Just depends on how tidy one keeps their car. My GV60 is 2 years old 17,000 miles and I’ve been ferrying my 9 year old in it for the last two years. It’s still pristine - that Nappa Leather simply wipes clean with a non- scented, no perfume, mild baby wipe. I have a packet in my car. A scuff on the cream Interior quick baby wipe and done.
For sure. We’re very happy with our decision however the drive of the Performance GV60 with the gobs if extra power and adaptive suspension make it a really good choice for driving enthusiasts.
In the UK and some others territories the GV60 is available in a RWD 226bhp (168 kW) variant (0-60mph in 7.4 secs) so not blazing fast but absolutely adequate for over-taking and joining motorways. And bridges some what that price difference.
Why do you Americans NOT have the camera side "mirrors" like we do here in Australia, or Europe or Asia ? These electronic side video screen mirrors are brilliant in low light or in wet weather , give the best blind spot coverage and of course, minimise the wind noise due to its much smaller size. Why don't American models offer this great feature ? ( Is it because you still haven't embraced the metric system ? )
Why do most EV have huge wheels? Is it because the vehicles are heavier, or they just want to give them a “premium” look? I wonder if majority of the buyers realize how expensive 19 plus tires are…
It's just for looks. Smaller wheels are lighter and are better for EVs as they have less unsprung weight. Go over to Engineering Explained as he's got a great video that proves this. Another benefit of smaller wheels is thicker sidewall makes the ride smoother and they are cheaper, too. I downsized from 20 to 18 inch wheels for my winter tires and I prefer the ride. I may sell my 20s and just get another 18 for summers.
Doesn’t matter which one i like (Ionig5) they are not available. Dealer are just using them for Lead generation. They just tell you to buy something else.
His n Hers Korean EVs. I prefer the 5. Reminds me of my old Scirocco. Thanks Cynthia and Brian! My wife, actually nearly everyone, slams my frameless doors in my 1er all the time. 😾 One day that glass will shatter.
Cant find what the cathode in the battery is, which probably means an NCA or NCM 2170 or 4680 which means you should can not charge over 90% and discharge below 10%, thus range is reduced by 20%, which takes the GV60 to 192 miles. Garbage. My Mazda 2 does 600 miles on 44 li of diesel and is half the price.
Nobody is a bigger Hyundai/Genesis fan than me. I have been a Loyal customer since 2003. I bought my first brand new car 1999 a 2000 Chrysler Sebring LXI. That car in 2002 immediately after I lost my 3 year 36k miles warranty gave me nothing but problems. It spent more time in the shop than it did on the road. A friend of mine towards the end of 2003 offered me a car cheap. It was her 2000 Elantra. She knew I was having issues getting to work. I said ok I’ll buy it as I needed a car and I was to far upside down on my 5 year lease. I gave that Elantra to my brother in 2017 with 177k miles on it. When I bought it back in 03 it had 62k. Besides the routine maintenance, the only money I spent on that car was a exhaust and new wires, plugs , and all fluid change. I had purchased a few new Hyundai’s since getting rid of that Sebring, but kept that Elantra. It hurt to give it to my bro, but he was in need. I watched closely what Hyundai has been doing since then. Watched how they first brought great reliability to the brand, how they turned Kia around, watched how they stepped out of the shadows of Honda & Toyota. Then around 2013 really started putting the hammer down on all other manufacturers. Giving consumers much more for their money. I should have started my own review channel back then as I have family that only buys Ford or GM. I started comparing my vehicles to there’s back then and would notice huge difference especially within the price difference. . Hyundai many years ago was the company following from back of the line. Now they are all by themselves the leaders of all manufacturers. Honda, Toyota, Nissan realized in 2015 that they need to play catch up, Hyundai made those guys copy cats. Chevy has yet to figure out, although they are copying Hyundai vehicles exterior styling, but still far behind everywhere else. Ford start figuring out about a year ago, but still far behind. Think about this, it was the Hyundai Palisade which we own, that made Cadillac to step up there game. We had got a 2019 Palisade Limited same year my cousin and his wife got a Escalade. I put them 2 through a complete comparison and proved to my cousin in almost ALL aspects that our Palisade was better. I found the Escalade to have slightly less cabin noise. I liked the materials better on the Palisade, far better safety features, bigger 10.2 inch infotainment, a 12.3 inch digital dash compared to analog and a 7 inch helper screen. A class leading highway driving assistant compared to what ever that was. A better sound system and overall better vehicle with a far better warranty. Then I see a popular review site Throttle House said the same thing I did, that the Hyundai Palisade was a better vehicle than a Cadillac Escalade. Here was the real sad difference. We paid 46k and my cousin paid 78k. That was a absolute joke to me and ensured me I would never buy outside of Hyundai/Genesis. My cousin and his wife had the biggest attitude’s. I said don’t get pissed at me, I did build and sell this to you, Cadillac did. Well 2 years later you could see all of the design and technology feature changes Cadillac made that are quite obviously influenced from the Hyundai Palisade. Pretty sad when a company that’s been around 50 years longer and adds a 2, 3 and even 4X heftier price tag needs to copy a non luxury brands tech and styling
Thank you both for the details regarding the storage size and access. This is missed in most reviews, yet is one of the most important factors over the life of the vehicle.
Got my Ionic 5, according Jim Paterson North shore Hyundai (Great team by the way) mine was the second 2023 Ionic 5 delivery in Canada, yes it does smell fresh! I feel that ultimately the Ionic 5 is the most practical of the two choices, so spacious, quiet and love the driving dynamics, maybe not a luxury performance car, but it does everything so well and is no slouch either!
Does your 2023 Ioniq 5 have a rear window wiper?
I really don't understand why it would be a 2023 model if you literally got it this year. You're talking about the updates they made for this years Ioniq 5
@@MrArmorcat normally in the kate summer or fall most mfg's change to the next model year config.
@@ctecproductions no wiper and no camera in the spoiler
@@berthogendoorn2133 okay thanks for confirming. The N prototype has the rear wiper but too bad it hasn't gotten to the regular models.
Today I am heading to North Vancouver to pickup my Ionic 5 top trim, and yes I am getting that black trim kit. Over all I bought this for the very large back doors and space for my elderly parents, much more space than either my Kia Soul EV. Range on the Ionic 5 may exceed the GV60, although I like the GV60 interior and controls I think ionic wins for practicality.
What’s with all you west coasters up and at ‘em so early on a Saturday!?!
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Wet Coasters now…
@@MarioDallaRiva after a lengthy drought, not a terrible thing, right?
@@mileitman Totally! 👍🏼
Back to normal, finally.
Hyundai Ioniq 5 and 6, Kia EV6 and Genesis GV60. All E-GMP, you buy any one of them and you won't be disappointed. Saw a GV60 for the first time yesterday. I really like it. It's quite understated.
WOW, hands down the best review and comparison to date. You guys touched on the finer details(I.e., 10” shorter panoramic roof, soft end of turn steering wheel feel, non sliding rear seats, shorter more narrow trunk and LED location or lack of) that no other reviewers have.
One item most forget to mention are the larger better brakes all GV60s come with.
Love your beautiful family too ❤
Love the Ionic 5! Really wish they would bring out the N74 concept to production at a reasonable price!
Soon the Ioniq 5N will be available and that is what i'm looking for..
Actually she did it right by letting the hood drop instead of pushing on the nose. That creates dents and as a bodyshop repair guy is a no-no.
Love the tag team presentation. Great comprehensive comparison review. Thank you.
Fun review. Expensive, though not in Tesla price terms. Factoring in all car sales, the average electric car here in the United States is priced at 76,000 dollars!
I like the rotating crystal ball on the GV60. I wonder if it can be used in a Seance to predict when itself will break?
Love your reviews guys - video content, the quality etc. is Awesome!!
No rear wipers though- still think that would drive me 😜
Thanks. We’ve just entered into rainy season as we’ve had the driest summer ever so it hasn’t been an issue. We knew what we were getting into though so it’s not surprise however still not a fan 😂
Got a company car with stickers on the rear windshield. So I do habe wipers but they don't work. Never thought about it until discussions about the ionic 5 started. Basically rear wipers are not needed. For parking you got the cameras and depending on your model, the mirror is also digital so you actually never look through the rear window. But even if you don't have them there is rarely an occasion were that's a problem.
Love the way y'all review vehicles, glad I came across your channel. Just subscribed!
Welcome aboard!
This was very helpful and terrible at the same time because now I'm even more confused about what to get...
I am a Kia, Hyundai, Genesis fan
Chip shortage delayed the purchase of the GV70 I wanted, now I'm looking again and I never thought I would want an electric car until these two popped up!!!
great content and presentation. We just ordered an Ionic 5. Curious to see how it handles snow here in Connecticut. Thanks
With winter tires and AWD this thing is a beast. Zero issue with snow.
Thanks for this one, vey helpful. Don‘t know if it were just the mics you used, but the difference in road and wind noise in your driving shots was VERY noticeable. Haven‘t driven the GV60 yet, but the IONIQ 5 - and the latter had been very smooth and quiet already. Second thing I noticed with the white / cream interior are the stains on the steering wheel. Bright interiors need a lot of cleaning.
Yes didn’t even notice the stains on the back of the wheel until after i shot it. 2 different mics and crazy thing is that it’s the expansive one that picked up more noise. Thanks
Hyundai Motor should have included these wipers on cold regions. In California, its not a big deal. But in Canada, sure yea I think I understand their issue.
This is the first of your videos I've seen and I have subscribed.
Thanks!
Regarding no rear wiper, I don't miss it in my EV6. I was on a highway in Central PA and noticed that raindrops just sat on the glass and didn't stream down at speed. It works really well and I tend to he a stickler about rear wipers.
EV6 is fine without the rear wiper. It’s just the I5.
Good review. Thank you. I just subscribed. Question: did you notice a difference in steering tightness between the two? Is one of them tighter aka requires a bit more force to turn, than the other?
Yes the GV60 steering is heavier.
@@EverydayReviews2022 thanks. That’s my only real gripe with my Ioniq 5 Limited AWD. I find the steering too light, even in Sports mode. I prefer it’s looks over the GV60. I don’t feel I need the extra power of the GV60 Performance, and I don’t want to spend the extra. But that steering may just push me to the GV60 unless I can figure out how to make the Ioniq tighter.
Hello from Vancouver Island , great review . I have had the Ioniq 5 on order now for almost a year now its been put back again untill Sept 2023. 7 weeks ago i made a phone call and within 2 days i had the choice of 2 GV 60 Advance and Performance after driving both other than the extra power with the boost button i really could not tell the difference so I went with the Advance i have now driven 7000 KLM love the car very hard to find any fault with it , If i could add or change anything i would have loved the sliding centre console and maybe a deeper one its a little small. I have been getting great range avg 470 to 490 KLM twice i have been over 500KLM so very happy with that. I was in very heavy rain last week in Seattle on the I5 no problem with rear view window in the rain i have coated my glass which does help. I agree the cost of the car is a little high this one cost $85K taxes in and of course no money back as the car is above the $65K. Again thanks loved your video.
Great news. I don’t think the rear window suffers at all with the spray as the Ioniq 5 does. Our GV60 window was pretty well clear driving the exact same route. What colour did you get to choose from?
@@EverydayReviews2022 I got Barossa Burgundy it was the only choice in the Advance I like it it does not so the dirt and changes colour in the sunlight. The performance was the Hanauma Mint which I really liked but that light colour inside would not work for me but its really stunning . I did the ceramic coat on mine easy to do yourself the cost was about $70.00 . So you did the US trip I thought that it was costing a lot more to charge in the US i used electrify America they were very fast the last charge i did cost $29.00 US going from 30% to 80% it took 14 mins.I do most of my charging from home still on the 110v i am going to install a level 2 soon. do you have a level 2 charger at home . I am driving to Penticton next week I go via Manning Park so I will be very interested how the car does going through the Mountains .
@@shaunmckenna1923 Yes I installed a level 2. Necessary for sure. Never touch a public charger but I rarely do long drives anyways.
@@EverydayReviews2022 I am just about to add one at my home I was thinking of the Grizzl-E or Chargepoint but I just read about the Emporia , I know 2 people using the Grizzl -E and Chargepoint and are very happy as you said you always charge at home what are your thoughts , its also nice we get the $350 rebate still here on them .
Great review! I love the outside styling of the ioniq so much more than the genesis. I wish the genesis interior existed with the ioniq exterior.
The GV60 is more expensive, but it’s the superior car. That’s by design: Hyundai doesn’t want to compete with the EV6 or GV60.
All of them simply want to compete with the Tesla Model Y.
To a lesser extent, they outperform the Tesla Model 3 for a better price.
I truly enjoyed your video, awesome content.....
Thanks for the deep dive into both EVs. Ioniq5 is on my shortlist for sure but didn’t know Genesis made a comparable (though more expensive) car. Hyundai still wins for that cool retro styling though.
Cynthia couldn't stop smiling while covering the interior of the GV60.
Yes she really likes the luxury stuff. You do feel it compared to the IONIQ5 when you go back to back.
How long did you wait for it?
Can’t wait for EV prices to drop. Really want a ionic 5- but $55k+ still a bit rich for me. Wonder how long until they get around the $35-39k mark….
V60 cost more then $20 grand if you want to spend more and have the money then its not even a question... to me both vehicles are different class
Why does the IONIQ have a front plate and the GV60 not? And will you do another with GV60 and IONIQ 5 N?
The Hanauma Mint colour on the GV60 is really nice.
It does not have 'region default' when you turn the car on except for two positions.
Mine defaults only to level 1 regardless of what setting it was last driven in. No option to change it
Great video, thanks. The comparison is entertaining - but, when one car costs $20k more, well, it's not comparing like for like, is it? I love my basic Ioniq 5, and plan on test driving the GV60, but in the UK, there's a very significant price differential that probably means the GV60 will remain on my Wishlist for some time...
Styling wise, it’s the Ioniq5 for me, though they’re both great cars.
Great Color on the GV60. Awesome as always Brian, and Cynthia. See that back of that White Steering wheel?
Yeah didn’t even see the back of the steering wheel until editing. Who ever looks at the back of the wheel?😆
You’re Right, but goes to show how hard that will be to keep looking like new.
This reminded of that one ‘Office’ episode since i am used to watching a different canadian couple couple which reviews cars similarly
Love to see your wife reviewing as well. Keep up the great work.
Great review guys! Do you recall the exterior/interior colors for the genesis? Yours appears very white on the interior which is exactly what I'm looking for, but on the build page for genesis the lightest you can get is ash.
Let me check.
How long did you wait for Ioniq 5? I ordered mine in December and am on track for late 2023 delivery. I'm in Ontario. I suspect they prioritize BC and QC due to your ZEV mandates.
Yeah it was over a year ago. Most likely they give more priority to BC and Quebec, quite common with the EV incentives. What trim did you order?
@@EverydayReviews2022 I ordered Preferred with Ultimate. Though I’ve also got my name 1st on the list at a local Mitsubishi dealer, so I might get the Outlander PHEV first.
it's all about 5:40 for me. That design of the Ioniq 5 is so rugged. I think GV60 looks more sophisticated and perhaps more feminine (which is a good thing), but that Ioniq 5 design is also special. When Ioniq 5N comes out, it'll have both the generational design and the performance!
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Are you sure you can't set automatic parking brake in the settings on the Hyundai? I assume you already looked for it. I'm kinda surprised by that because several Toyotas have that feature.
Nope. Tried everything. It’s weird. I’m testing the Kia Sportage PHEV right now and it applies auto parking brake even.
I Have an ioniq 5 and taking delivery of gv60 at end of November.....couldn't agree more that they hopefully make an update with auto lock when walking away. It's particularly perplexing it doesn't auto lock considering the handles stick out when unlocked just screaming out to potential thieves "hey, I'm unlocked".
I know. It already does it if you have the Auto Unlock and you walk up and don’t open and walk away. Please Hyundai 🙏 Please. As I said, I saw on a forum that other markets have the option in their menu to activate this feature. Did you get the Performance or Advanced? Are you keeping your I5 as well or trading it in?
Elantra has the exact same problem, unfortunately Hyundai are notoriously bad at software updates and listening to feedback
Can never fault anyone for buying the Ioniq 5 as, for me, it's the best looking vehicle, amazing charging as it's the fastest available (I believe it's even faster than a Tesla, tho yes, the Supercharging Network is still larger...for now), amazing tech, thoughtful interior, more pliant ride vs Tesla, comprehensive warranty etc. Tho, yes, the Genny is an AMAZING looking and performing vehicle. Personally. want the Genesis GV70 SUV (really impressed with the test drive) but waiting for the Genesis GV70 Electrified due out next year. Keep up the amazing work!
Thanks Gene!
Set the Regen to strongest under Smart Regen will bring the default to level 3 each time you cycle the motor.
The ioniq 5 is an amazing EV especially at its price point rebates etc. the GV60 is great and really the best of the 5 and the Kia EV 6, but I dont think it is 9K-20K better. We have a model 3 LR, and like it alot but the interior is very minimalistic as Tesla designed it. What is amazing about the Tesla is the over the air updates via Wifi. We have only owned it for a few months and have done 2 updates which were scheduled and done while we we sleeping. Keep the reviews coming they are awesome!
These also have ota updates as well but from what I’ve read, they don’t have many updates especially compared to Tesla. Tesla seems to have the upper hand in the tech department.
@@EverydayReviews2022 Interesting have you done any OTA's on the Inoniq 5 as I understand that feature was not coming to that generation
Very good review. I have a Hyundai Sonata, 2017 vintage. The engine failed, but Hyundai replaced it under warranty. I have noticed that Hyundai has a very forward looking/advanced view of technology. My dad went from Lincoln to Lexus, after looking at Mercedes. But I am now very interested in Hyundai. The Genisis brand is very interesting. I'm keeping an eye on that. Thank yuo for the review.
" YOU SLAMED IT....WHAT" lol GOOD REVIEW.
I have a 2019 Genesis G70, first car released by Genesis. Great car. Now thinking of switching to Ioniq 5.
Perhaps you could add an aftermarket low spoiler on the rear window of your IONIC 5.
I’ve been searching that already lol.
the Ionic 5 looks to be the one. My issues with the GV60 are that it appears to be smaller in terms of interior comfort and the exterior styling screams Mary-K. The curves are too soft for my taste. That said, excellent review and you have yourselves a new subscriber :)
The default regen on our 2020 Ioniq EV can be customized to your desired level so maybe that's also available on the Ioniq 5. Great review on these 2 ev's.
I think I’ll get that feature on the next firmware update as well as some other useful features like being able to turn on seat/steering wheel heat by voice command.
Great review !!
I love my i5 but really want a rear wiper. I'd trade up if they brought out a model with a rear wiper! In Australia the GV60 costs $35K more than the top i5 and the eGV70 is not built on the eGMP platform so it is not a good substitute for the i5. Like you, I'm looking forward to the i5N coming in 2023 but fear it will sacrifice ground clearance and ride harshness which I'm reluctant to do.
I wonder if there was a rear spoiler on the back like the GV60, if it would help block the spray. I might do a mock up and try it out one day when I get some time. Wiper would really be nice
@@EverydayReviews2022 I think the rake of the i5 rear is too steep for a spoiler, and the quasi spoiler at the top of the rear window is completely ineffectual if it is intended to provide a rain-clearing downdraft.
I like the ioniq5, and the colour you chose is fire!!
I like the exterior paint color on the Genesis. But the exterior styling on the Hyundai is better. Also the Hyundai's larger dimensions are better. I don't get why they made the Genesis smaller.
Maybe they made it smaller for handling as the GV60 does feel more nimble in the handling department.
@@EverydayReviews2022 If all the E-GMP cars were the same, what would be the point?
Great comparative review. Pity that neither car has a rear screen wiper
GV60 really doesn’t need it. Had no issues with it in wet and dirty conditions.
My neighbor has the Ioniq and it is noisy and he says he gets rough rides and says maybe the suspension does adjust to the street and it happens even on my truck when it’s cold.
So new vehicles without a spare tire, do they come with an inflation device and a patch kit as a quicker alternative to calling a tow service and possibly waiting an hour and a half to get your vehicle to a shop?
Yes they come with a mobility kit plus they have an SOS button if you want to contact help
How were you guys able to buy the Ioniq 5 Ultimate so quickly in BC?
Comes in here first from the ship?
@@EverydayReviews2022 the waitlist for Ioniq 5 Ultimate was minimum 1 year 2021, and when you ask dealerships now its 3-5 years in the lower mainland... did you also put a deposit down in 2021 is my question.
@@curseknight5 Yes was 2021
Lack of rear wiper is especially annoying with the Ioniq because it could easily be hidden under the rear spoiler so its not as if it would spoil the look for anyone that cares..
Agreed
20grand more is still a deal compared to Tesla model Y, which the Tesla still has the one up with their charging network, thanks for the great video!
The Model Y has more room especially under the rear floor and the frunk but it has nothing for the interior compared to either of these cars in my opinion. I would like to do a Genesis GV60 VW Model Y comparison one day.
The Ioniq 5/EV6/GV60 are a great effort from Hyundai/Kia; of the three I like the GV60 the most, although the EV6 GT performance/cost ratio can't be ignored, Ioniq 5 is the most practical of the three. I'm looking forward to the Ioniq6 and it's Genesis counterpart however, I just don't want a CUV. Hopefully Genesis makes a wagon version if the Ioniq6 in a performance variant, I'll be one of the four to five people in the US that buys it.
I have a Lexus IS350 Fsport, my wife has a 2022 Sorento PHEV, we would have gone all electric for her if there had been a 3-row on the market (Model Y third row is useless, also ~73k MSRP when configured vs. the 50k for the Sorento PHEV); I'll be looking to move from the Lexus in the next ~3 years or so, hopefully there is something on the market I want, thankfully it's a Lexus so if there isn't I'm not particularly worried about reliability.
I'm really looking forward to the Ioniq 5N. That's really gonna hit the sweet spot for me.
By the way, using the Ioniq 5’s voice recognition to turn on the heated or ventilated seats works well to avoid having to go to the screen. Just say “Turn on driver seat warming” or “Turn on passenger seat warming”
Great point. I never even thought of that. Thanks!
I tried it today and it didn’t work or show any options other than controlling Navi, radio
@@EverydayReviews2022 that’s odd. I wonder if it depends what screen you’re on. When I did it, I was in Apple CarPlay.
@@t1328 It has to be done through the vehicles native voice commands. CarPlay has no control over car functions.
@@EverydayReviews2022 right, I know. When you’re in CarPlay, a short press uses the car’s native voice control, while a long press uses Siri/CarPlay. I used a short press and the regular car’s voice recognition screen showed up on the right of the screen, which is when I used voice to do this.
The crystal ball serves a purpose! I know when the car is off😉. And shifting gears is very easy with rotating wheel. GV60 worth extra money for the extra luxurious features! Including super quiet ride!
Hey that’s a great point. Thanks 🙏
Type A usb????? What year is it
Great comparison! 👍
Thanks!
Hi, wanted to ask, how many months did you wait for yours?
I have to disagree w/ your assessment. I love our Ioniq 5 Limited and based on the glowing reviews, I thought I would love the GV60 even more. So I got the GV60 performance w/ the intention of replacing the Ioniq 5. Everyone in the family ended up disliking the GV60. Yes...the GV60 is quieter and has a nicer interior, but it had more irritating wind noise and less functional utility - especially for the family. I actually didn't care for the ride - i felt it was stiffer and rode heavier. I much prefer the lighter and more airy ride of the Ioniq. The kids didn't care for the GV60 b/c it felt more claustrophobic in the 2nd row w/ smaller windows and much less leg & feet room. This made a difference as my husbands 6-3 and there was no legroom sitting behind him in the GV60. The performance was also overwhelming and out right dangerous with way too much tire spin if the wheels are not pointed straight. Maybe I would have preferred the lower Advance trim, but I don't think the Performance was worth the $14k usd over the ioniq. We sold the GV60 as it sat unused as we all gravitated toward the Ioniq instead.
I'm not saying the GV60 is a bad car, but I much prefer the Ioniq for the daily family practically, the airy cabin and lower price.
I forgot to add, HDA2 in the Ioniq is so much better than the older HDA1 in the gv60, esp on long road trips. It’s smoother and more confident inspiring.
Thanks for the detailed first hand comment. As I said as well, for family the I5 for sure. You definitely have to be ready to handle the rush of power from the GV60 especially with the Boost but once you get used to it, it’s pretty amazing. I prefer the styling of the I5 as well.
@@EverydayReviews2022 I forgot to mention that I also got the Ioniq based on your prior review and the fact you guys were also thinking of getting it. We love it. It’s not perfect, but I think it’s one of the best car for the price.
Since you’ve owned both, perhaps you can help me. I have an Ioniq 5 Limited AWD now (equivalent of the one in this review in the US). The one thing that I really miss compared to my previous cars is tight steering. Even in sports mode, I find the steering too light. I also wish it had the “My Mode” that allowed me to use the tighter sport steering, but with normal or eco mode for the rest like the GV60 has. Did you notice a significant difference in steering weight between the two? Outside of the interior luxury and the steering, I prefer everything else about the Ioniq. Maybe switching to 21” wheels will help with steering, but I doubt it because the contact patch is still the same.
@@Wasabi9111 yes I think for the price it’s the best option regardless if you get an EV incentive or not.
Wonderful video
I've always wondered how flush door handles wok in wintry terrains with heavy snow and/or freezing rain.
They sometimes have trouble forcing through heavy ice
Good question. I guess one would need to pre heat the cabin first.
I don’t think the cabin heat would do anything to heat the door handle. I heard that Teslas may be coming with heated handles
I have had a Tesla Model 3 through three New England winters.
The flush handles do freeze but if I turn on the climate control about 30 minutes before I want to leave the heat-soak is enough to loosen them.
Also, don't forget to switch off the automatic folding mirrors. You could easily strip gears or burn out the motors if the mirror freezes.
But the worst part of the Tesla is the franeless windows. They freeze too and they're the hardest to free up.
I curse the stylist who insisted on using them. They're awful.
@@jonathangwynne1917 Great points. Thanks!
I kind of like the kammback styling of GV60 but overall the IONIQ 5 is the more interesting better designed EV.
Do wish Hyundai/Genesis Group would put back in place rear wipers because honestly and common sense tell you can't just depend on aerodynamics to totally wipe off debris within those rear windows.
Seeing the back of the steering wheel on the GV60. Oof! Black interiors for the win!
Just depends on how tidy one keeps their car. My GV60 is 2 years old 17,000 miles and I’ve been ferrying my 9 year old in it for the last two years. It’s still pristine - that Nappa Leather simply wipes clean with a non- scented, no perfume, mild baby wipe. I have a packet in my car. A scuff on the cream
Interior quick baby wipe and done.
damn how did you get your ioniq 5 so fast? i put my deposit in november and i still dont have it :(
Not enough commenting on the differences in the ride quality especially with the length differences.
Hey you should slam the bonnet. If you push then you risk denting ;)
I love them both. But if I had to choose, I'd choose the Genesis GV60.
I don't have small children , if I did then I would choose the Ioniq 5.
Whata the point of a brand like Genesis if they dont include 360 camera as standard? That should be a standard feature.
Agreed
Beautiful. And the cars too.
中国IONIQ 5还没有上市，希望尽快推出，真是一辆性价比很高的车。
Great video
GV60 is no question more luxurious however it is a lot more $$$$ and doesn't qualify for the federal EV rebate. Ioniq5 is good enough for me.
For sure. We’re very happy with our decision however the drive of the Performance GV60 with the gobs if extra power and adaptive suspension make it a really good choice for driving enthusiasts.
In the UK and some others territories the GV60 is available in a RWD 226bhp (168 kW) variant (0-60mph in 7.4 secs) so not blazing fast but absolutely adequate for over-taking and joining motorways. And bridges some what that price difference.
Why do you Americans NOT have the camera side "mirrors" like we do here in Australia, or Europe or Asia ? These electronic side video screen mirrors are brilliant in low light or in wet weather , give the best blind spot coverage and of course, minimise the wind noise due to its much smaller size. Why don't American models offer this great feature ? ( Is it because you still haven't embraced the metric system ? )
Cute couple. Cute family. Thank you for the video.
The Koreans are making great EVs, they just don't make enough, it takes 2 years to get one.
I love the exterior of the Hyundai but love the interior of the Genesis. 1st world problems, right?
Holy Smokes, how did that steering wheel get so dirty so quick! I'd never want a white steering wheel.
Lol, it wasn’t from me but I didn’t notice it until I reviews the footage cause who ever looks at the back of a steering wheel.
That's why mine arrived with the dark blue interior option
Good video thanks
🇺🇸 ioniq5 my choice. Like body shape. I'd buy over Tesla!
Nice, so thank to face recognition I just need the picture of the owner to drive their car ?
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@@EverydayReviews2022 Pretty sure it is like phones in that it does a 3D scan so a picture won't work.
No Heated rear seats for Ioniq 5 in US .. bummer
Oh really? On all trims?
Looking forward to the Genesis GV70 EV. It'll probably out sell both of these models.
No wiper? I live in a snow area and the whole rear of the car can be caked with dirt.
people use the side mirrors just like truckers .
@@rodgood You've never driven in the snow.
@@rogerhuston8287 50 years of driving in snow! i only use the side mirrors . do you only use the rear view?
@@rodgood - I use all the mirrors, like everyone should. Young man.
@@rogerhuston8287 good so you dont" need "the rearward mirror in the snow/dust/dirt /grime then?
Why do most EV have huge wheels? Is it because the vehicles are heavier, or they just want to give them a “premium” look? I wonder if majority of the buyers realize how expensive 19 plus tires are…
Usually the larger the wheels the less range it seems as well.
Perhaps the very heavy batteries
the less rubber sidewall deflection the less rolling resistance .
@@shontoo6979 No its just strictly for styling.
It's just for looks. Smaller wheels are lighter and are better for EVs as they have less unsprung weight. Go over to Engineering Explained as he's got a great video that proves this. Another benefit of smaller wheels is thicker sidewall makes the ride smoother and they are cheaper, too. I downsized from 20 to 18 inch wheels for my winter tires and I prefer the ride. I may sell my 20s and just get another 18 for summers.
Doesn’t matter which one i like (Ionig5) they are not available. Dealer are just using them for Lead generation. They just tell you to buy something else.
Time for upgrade Brian 😀 happy wife happy life ✌✌
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I predict it will happen…
His n Hers Korean EVs.
I prefer the 5. Reminds me of my old Scirocco.
Thanks Cynthia and Brian!
My wife, actually nearly everyone, slams my frameless doors in my 1er all the time. 😾
One day that glass will shatter.
Long live the Crystal Ball 😊
8:13 Keep those bits off camera.
Cant find what the cathode in the battery is, which probably means an NCA or NCM 2170 or 4680 which means you should can not charge over 90% and discharge below 10%, thus range is reduced by 20%, which takes the GV60 to 192 miles. Garbage. My Mazda 2 does 600 miles on 44 li of diesel and is half the price.
As the owner of a gv60, i can safely say you made a mistake UNLESS you need a big boot
Yeah we need the extra room which we may be considering an EV9
Content content content that’s all I heard from this review
too bad the genesis looks ugly compared to the ioniq and the ev6 even though the interior is way better
GV60
Exterior 🤮
Interior 🔥
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