JEEEEZ l have little interest in this stuff but l have just watched a presenter who knows his stuff and listened to professional people with absolute faith in what they produce. How refreshing.
VERY interested in Magnus’ comment about preferring in-mast to in-boom furling. You would think in-boom would give you lower CoG and easier ‘detangling’ should anything go wrong. It also allows for horizontal battens, so does anyone understand the ‘in-mast’ over ‘in-boom’ comment? I am SURE there is very good reason, I’m just keen to understand it 😊
Reliability. In-boom is fine as long as you do everything 100 % correctly. But you will not always do everything 100 % the right way. In-boom is sensitive to the angle boom-mast, sensitive to angle wind-sail and cannot be reefed downwind. In-mast done in the right way is far more forgiving and reliable. And at long distance cruising, you regularly get a sudden squall and then you need to be able to reef downwind, as is the case with in-mast furling. And today with carbon in-mast furling, a really good mainsail with full roach, a headboard, vertical battens and modern fibers, there is no measurable difference in performance. When it is this easy to manage, you also sail with the right sail area in each condition, and you sail more, also very short distances.
Many thanks @@HallbergRassy412. I really appreciate the advice. Understand everything you say about in-mast. I have never used, but have wondered about in-boom, so this advice, and from such a source, it exceptionally helpful. I have used in-mast on trans-ocean trade wind passages, and used a 'boom to wind' approach to take pressure off the main to permit shake-out or shortening of the mainsail while on the run, something you could never do with slab reefing. I see now in-boom would act like slab-reef. As you say, when you see a squall approaching over the stern, being able to shorten and then later shake-out so simply and without need to turn into the swell is a significant benefit. So thank you again for the advice. Maybe I'll get back to Ellos sometime for another delivery of one of your wonderful boats 🙂
THEIRS a video on youtube about a couple who had a £3m yatch designed and built .The architect opted for boom furling, which the customers found to be really difficult to use because of the reasons staited by H.R. The weight of it allso contributed to the death of the skipper and his wife
I would look for a sailboot where the main sheet was combined with targa bow/bimini/DS if I was considering buying a sailboot. Ordinary main sheet solution are so dangerous/deadly.
One of many things for recreation, perhaps racing or regatta sports How many times do owners and guests use these regularly. Marina service employees maintain and clean.
I am going to buy a lottery ticket right now. I will order my Hallberg as soon as I win the big prize. I wonder if they will take an elderly Contessa in part exchange? It is nice to dream.
What does everyone think of the highly dangerous mainsheet position on the Arcona 50? No way is that thing a "blue water" boat, whatever that means. Plus the full width of the cockpit to fall across when heeled. What utter nonsense.
It doesn’t look that dangerous to me. Having had a boom snap due to a mid boom mainsheet, I much prefer the German mainsheet setup. It looks to have good clearance from the helms and also the seats and table. A mainsheet arch would remove the danger from the cockpit but then you have raised CoG to deal with, extra weight, complexity, removal of a traveller and some just don’t like the aesthetic but it would be a good option to spec if available. Everyone’s definition of a Bluewater cruiser varies, personally I see an Oyster or Bestevaer as a true Bluewater cruiser rather than this yacht which looks to tackle the densely crowded market for 50ft performance cruisers aimed at Med sailing but any yacht can cross oceans is prepared to a high enough standard and sailed within its limits
No, sorry, you believe a boom-end mounted mainsheet and cockpit traveller is “dangerous”? If you were downwind cruising, it would be out and pinned and so where is the danger? Note they refer to her as “Luxury performance”, which is in tune with the brand, and a long cockpit mounted traveller is spot-on. When true blue water/ocean sailing, you are not always sailing downwind and so the idea of a ‘proper’ mainsheet and traveller for these times, *and when you have arrived*, seems rather excellent. On the open cockpit, note they refer to her as a “Med cruiser”. Correct. For ocean, no, I would not want an open rear cockpit where everyone is inches from the sea. There centre cockpit is far preferable, but of course, when you arrive, and for “Med cruising” (and Med mooring, if that’s your thing), a centre cockpit is a PITA unless you have plenty of crew. This is all done for a (good) reason and I see no danger, only a boat setup for some good upwind sailing 😊
Ugly! That is what I see and think with all these modern yachts. They miss beauty and elegance of the classic yachts. All these squares in lines used in window, carpentry etc etc. makes me think; Where has beauty gone? I mean: the most beautiful things in nature are Not Square. Woman and Men are not.made square. So Why are yachts, cars, etc etc today made so square?? I am 49 now and have worked in The Yachting industry for almost 20 years. And I am mind boggled how the world goes for space, down wind performance and luxury, instead of beauty, upwind performance and purity. That Arcona 50.... it is in the details, he says. But where is the Grace? That front cross window, is square!!! I just do not understand what people see in these designs. I will just stick to my Custom designed Van der Stadt Pioneer 9, and a Swede 55, or a Swan 43, 48, 55, 65 or 77. Most older S&S design. Sad where the world has gone. But hey, that's life
I love the classic look of older yachts on the outside, but the inside is just not suited for today. It is too small, too dark and uncomfy. Imagine paying a fortune, just to crawl under deck and having less comfort then in your home. Many owners value living on the boat as much as sailing. And since sailing is always a quite slow mode of transportation i rather loose speed than comfort. But for the looks i am with you.
@hirschkuh4687 Thanks for the reply. And I agree, but that is why in contrast to the designs of the old days, my design has a lot of Light inside. Unlike the S&S Swan 43 from the end 1960's, which my dad had, my Van der Stadt Pioneer 9 is very nice to live in due to the large amount of light voming inside. What I lobby for is to combine the good of the past with the good of the present and future. In that regard, I think we are lost. And I would love the exact design I have to be like 12 to 14 meters long with a few design changes. I did those design changes myself, like cut the propshaft tunnel which was part of the hull, and into the aft part of the keel, away, en laminate it flat with a new bronze propshaft holder/ bracket, and the new 21hp Nanni engine placed about three foot forward of the original design, icm a 3 blade autoprop. So.... cool redesign job ❤️🔥💪🙏
i think yacht designs on the outside are brilliant but when you go inside it just boring wood finishes with badly designed spaces , and 5 million for that rubbish looking yacht no way if someone pays that then they a fool
Bohoo, lol. HR is a world-renowned high quality blue water cruiser yard which has been building boats for 60 years. They know exactly what the buyers want and what works in the real world and they have a record to show that which prove a lot more than what some random dude (who wouldn't afford one anyway) say about them. Calling high quality wood finished (that compared to new, cheap materials will hold up as long as the hull) boring and the boats badly designed and rubbish looking just proves you obviously don't know a lot about sailboats or the cruising market. Taste is subjective. But you just sound like an idiot when calling everyone else fools.
The annual "Yacht of the Year" is a complete and utter nonsense! It seems like at least one boat from every yacht brand is selected on a rotational basis. It's quite laughable! Also, the "accolade" itself has little to no meaning other than maybe some bragging rights!
Thanks for bringing a piece of the show to the comfort of my home! Cheers!
JEEEEZ l have little interest in this stuff but l have just watched a presenter who knows his stuff and listened to professional people with absolute faith in what they produce. How refreshing.
Thanks for a lovely walkaround and some great interviews. Would love to see more from the show too.
Nice piece, worthwhile interviews and some wonderful looking yachts!
Thank you for featuring our Flaar 24 sailing boat!
Thanks - excellent coverage of the show😀
Magnus Rassey is such an interesting man. He carries himself so well, confident body to match a very confident mind.
👍Hallberg Rassy is entering the superyacht category with that 69. Dang, 5M!
Nice work, fun to watch, thank you
Great interview with Dennis. We love the Saffier way of sailing. Fantastic experience.
Well done, thank you .
nice composition thanks for the video
Thank you Matthew.
HR 69 - what a dream yacht!
well done as usual. thanks.
Nice. But needs an aft backrest for cockpit seating/lounging looking fwd
Just sold the first jeanneau 55 in the states and delivered it awesome yacht
VERY interested in Magnus’ comment about preferring in-mast to in-boom furling. You would think in-boom would give you lower CoG and easier ‘detangling’ should anything go wrong. It also allows for horizontal battens, so does anyone understand the ‘in-mast’ over ‘in-boom’ comment? I am SURE there is very good reason, I’m just keen to understand it 😊
Reliability. In-boom is fine as long as you do everything 100 % correctly. But you will not always do everything 100 % the right way. In-boom is sensitive to the angle boom-mast, sensitive to angle wind-sail and cannot be reefed downwind. In-mast done in the right way is far more forgiving and reliable. And at long distance cruising, you regularly get a sudden squall and then you need to be able to reef downwind, as is the case with in-mast furling. And today with carbon in-mast furling, a really good mainsail with full roach, a headboard, vertical battens and modern fibers, there is no measurable difference in performance. When it is this easy to manage, you also sail with the right sail area in each condition, and you sail more, also very short distances.
Many thanks @@HallbergRassy412. I really appreciate the advice. Understand everything you say about in-mast. I have never used, but have wondered about in-boom, so this advice, and from such a source, it exceptionally helpful. I have used in-mast on trans-ocean trade wind passages, and used a 'boom to wind' approach to take pressure off the main to permit shake-out or shortening of the mainsail while on the run, something you could never do with slab reefing. I see now in-boom would act like slab-reef. As you say, when you see a squall approaching over the stern, being able to shorten and then later shake-out so simply and without need to turn into the swell is a significant benefit. So thank you again for the advice. Maybe I'll get back to Ellos sometime for another delivery of one of your wonderful boats 🙂
THEIRS a video on youtube about a couple who had a
£3m yatch designed and built .The architect opted for boom furling, which the customers found to be really difficult to use because of the reasons staited by H.R.
The weight of it allso contributed to the death of the skipper and his wife
Thanks for the interesting video
How you didn't mention the Moody yacht?
Excellent
HR never delivered late, not even during covid, sick!
Except for the HR, most other EU boats all look the same, including the interiors that look like IKEA
I would look for a sailboot where the main sheet was combined with targa bow/bimini/DS if I was considering buying a sailboot. Ordinary main sheet solution are so dangerous/deadly.
try Saare
Yeah, baby.
One of many things for recreation, perhaps racing or regatta sports How many times do owners and guests use these regularly. Marina service employees maintain and clean.
My Westerly 33 is 46 years old it sales beautifully. Let’s see if these boats are around in 45 years 😂
Pentagonal dining table
Who wants a master in the bow?
Where is Amel?😢
I’d still buy an Antares 44 if I could……
I am going to buy a lottery ticket right now. I will order my Hallberg as soon as I win the big prize. I wonder if they will take an elderly Contessa in part exchange? It is nice to dream.
What does everyone think of the highly dangerous mainsheet position on the Arcona 50? No way is that thing a "blue water" boat, whatever that means. Plus the full width of the cockpit to fall across when heeled. What utter nonsense.
Translation: main sheet? Please explain the danger.
I just sail beach catamarans.
It doesn’t look that dangerous to me. Having had a boom snap due to a mid boom mainsheet, I much prefer the German mainsheet setup. It looks to have good clearance from the helms and also the seats and table. A mainsheet arch would remove the danger from the cockpit but then you have raised CoG to deal with, extra weight, complexity, removal of a traveller and some just don’t like the aesthetic but it would be a good option to spec if available. Everyone’s definition of a Bluewater cruiser varies, personally I see an Oyster or Bestevaer as a true Bluewater cruiser rather than this yacht which looks to tackle the densely crowded market for 50ft performance cruisers aimed at Med sailing but any yacht can cross oceans is prepared to a high enough standard and sailed within its limits
No, sorry, you believe a boom-end mounted mainsheet and cockpit traveller is “dangerous”? If you were downwind cruising, it would be out and pinned and so where is the danger? Note they refer to her as “Luxury performance”, which is in tune with the brand, and a long cockpit mounted traveller is spot-on. When true blue water/ocean sailing, you are not always sailing downwind and so the idea of a ‘proper’ mainsheet and traveller for these times, *and when you have arrived*, seems rather excellent.
On the open cockpit, note they refer to her as a “Med cruiser”. Correct. For ocean, no, I would not want an open rear cockpit where everyone is inches from the sea. There centre cockpit is far preferable, but of course, when you arrive, and for “Med cruising” (and Med mooring, if that’s your thing), a centre cockpit is a PITA unless you have plenty of crew. This is all done for a (good) reason and I see no danger, only a boat setup for some good upwind sailing 😊
plenty of storage
I'm glad the rich don't have inflation.
€20,000.00 per foot
Ugly! That is what I see and think with all these modern yachts. They miss beauty and elegance of the classic yachts. All these squares in lines used in window, carpentry etc etc. makes me think; Where has beauty gone? I mean: the most beautiful things in nature are Not Square. Woman and Men are not.made square. So Why are yachts, cars, etc etc today made so square?? I am 49 now and have worked in The Yachting industry for almost 20 years. And I am mind boggled how the world goes for space, down wind performance and luxury, instead of beauty, upwind performance and purity. That Arcona 50.... it is in the details, he says. But where is the Grace? That front cross window, is square!!! I just do not understand what people see in these designs. I will just stick to my Custom designed Van der Stadt Pioneer 9, and a Swede 55, or a Swan 43, 48, 55, 65 or 77. Most older S&S design. Sad where the world has gone. But hey, that's life
I love the classic look of older yachts on the outside, but the inside is just not suited for today. It is too small, too dark and uncomfy. Imagine paying a fortune, just to crawl under deck and having less comfort then in your home.
Many owners value living on the boat as much as sailing. And since sailing is always a quite slow mode of transportation i rather loose speed than comfort.
But for the looks i am with you.
@hirschkuh4687 Thanks for the reply. And I agree, but that is why in contrast to the designs of the old days, my design has a lot of Light inside. Unlike the S&S Swan 43 from the end 1960's, which my dad had, my Van der Stadt Pioneer 9 is very nice to live in due to the large amount of light voming inside. What I lobby for is to combine the good of the past with the good of the present and future. In that regard, I think we are lost. And I would love the exact design I have to be like 12 to 14 meters long with a few design changes. I did those design changes myself, like cut the propshaft tunnel which was part of the hull, and into the aft part of the keel, away, en laminate it flat with a new bronze propshaft holder/ bracket, and the new 21hp Nanni engine placed about three foot forward of the original design, icm a 3 blade autoprop. So.... cool redesign job ❤️🔥💪🙏
Winner- Doesn't mean anything.
Competition among all those lousy boats with their slippy cockpits is really tough.
Nice.. but we know all awards are bought (paid for)..
cookie cutter boats. more of the same layouts and materials.. boring... not one new design ideas.
i think yacht designs on the outside are brilliant but when you go inside it just boring wood finishes with badly designed spaces , and 5 million for that rubbish looking yacht no way if someone pays that then they a fool
Bohoo, lol. HR is a world-renowned high quality blue water cruiser yard which has been building boats for 60 years. They know exactly what the buyers want and what works in the real world and they have a record to show that which prove a lot more than what some random dude (who wouldn't afford one anyway) say about them. Calling high quality wood finished (that compared to new, cheap materials will hold up as long as the hull) boring and the boats badly designed and rubbish looking just proves you obviously don't know a lot about sailboats or the cruising market. Taste is subjective. But you just sound like an idiot when calling everyone else fools.
Would be nice to know which boat you are talking about.
all of them , you watch van conversions they way ahead of yacht interior design basically one looked like it was ikea furniture@@johnmayer3433
The annual "Yacht of the Year" is a complete and utter nonsense! It seems like at least one boat from every yacht brand is selected on a rotational basis. It's quite laughable! Also, the "accolade" itself has little to no meaning other than maybe some bragging rights!