Yeah… I read that he said he turns to shitty behavior after he’s lost interest, so she’ll leave him… but she, I read, is really into Scientology, which can be very challenging to live with. I can’t wait for her next season! Under his eye. 🫥
Not for nothing, but shifting your focus to comedy bits in your head during tough, emotional conversations or arguments sounds like it could be a dissociative coping mechanism, brother. Might be worth unpacking that a bit more.
Its so immature as well, like, I there are so many things I would rather my spouse not talk to me about, and yet I choose to listen with genuine interest, because it’s often something that means a lot to him. People have issues with loving, love is an art, it takes work to perfect and is it even possible to idk but its worth trying . If you just care about one thing, just be alone and have friends that care about that 1 thing.
@@buckycore didn't sound like shaming to me...just someone recognizing what may be an unhelpful coping mechanism and mentioning it in a supportive way. As someone who is neurodivergent and has done this, I see this helpful advice as spot-on, actually. Not everything is fucking ablelist or judgemental, sometimes it's just concern...maybe relax and stop white-knighting. Pretty sure we can speak for ourselves if we feel slighted 😂😋.
@@buckycore fair enough. My comment could seem a bit cavalier, and I probably should have been more careful to qualify my words. So now, I just want to clarify that my intent wasn't to shame anyone. I am disabled and struggle with severe mental health issues myself. I'm certainly not coming from a judgmental place. And it definitely isn't abelism. I just think maladaptive coping mechanisms are harmful and it's good to be aware of when you're engaging in them. It wasn't an attack on Neal. I have respect for him. I think he's genuinely trying to be the best version of himself. I pointed to a thing in his behavior he may want to address. He's free to take it or leave it. He seems to be open to learning about himself and others (hence this podcast), and sometimes it takes someone making us aware that we may be unconsciously doing something that's problematic for our lives. My comment was from a place of love. As far as him not hurting anyone with this behavior, I'd wager those on the receiving end of having their feelings unheard because Neal is busy writing bits in his head instead of being present are hurt by that behavior. And I'd also wager it negatively affects his life in a number of ways as a result. Having mental illness and trauma is not a free pass to behave hurtfully to others just because we're broken. And it isn't abelist to say as much. It's not everyone else's responsibility to just absorb our hurtful behavior because we're unwell. And yes, it's also not our fault we have whatever issues we have, but it is our responsibility to manage them as best we can. That requires awareness and accountability for our actions. It's not about blame or shame. It's about not unintentionally hurting others with our hurt. It's about trying to mitigate how much our issues hold us back from a healthy, fulfilling life. It's about respecting others the way we wish to be respected. And we'll all fail at times. That's okay. But the goal needs to be recognizing the mistake and doing better the next time.
There's a difference between acceptance and not caring. There's also a difference between caring and anxiously always trying to please. I'm not saying it's easy.
Fascinating podcast, the best one of yours I've seen. It was nearly the perfect length, except I wanted a little more Marc Maron, like a little more cow bell :)
The truth about most monogamous relationships is that it’s usually more stress and strife than it’s worth. People can try to make it work but usually the cons outweigh the pros. Everyone focuses on the exceptions to the rule (i.e., my grandparents are still together and seem kinda happy). But we know the divorce rate. We’re sold a myth and people spend decades of their lives trying to make the myth work. But it’s a myth.
Fred always gave me the impression of being asexual and societal pressures made him think he needed to be in relationships. I think Natasha was one of the best things to happen to him and she too I find might be asexual. This is just my opinion.
The way my eyebrows shot up seeing that Armisen is talking relationships after all the stories
Yeah… I read that he said he turns to shitty behavior after he’s lost interest, so she’ll leave him… but she, I read, is really into Scientology, which can be very challenging to live with.
I can’t wait for her next season!
Under his eye. 🫥
Not for nothing, but shifting your focus to comedy bits in your head during tough, emotional conversations or arguments sounds like it could be a dissociative coping mechanism, brother. Might be worth unpacking that a bit more.
Its so immature as well, like, I there are so many things I would rather my spouse not talk to me about, and yet I choose to listen with genuine interest, because it’s often something that means a lot to him. People have issues with loving, love is an art, it takes work to perfect and is it even possible to idk but its worth trying . If you just care about one thing, just be alone and have friends that care about that 1 thing.
This, in spades!
@@AbigailStovall-jh4gl agree 100%.
@@buckycore didn't sound like shaming to me...just someone recognizing what may be an unhelpful coping mechanism and mentioning it in a supportive way. As someone who is neurodivergent and has done this, I see this helpful advice as spot-on, actually. Not everything is fucking ablelist or judgemental, sometimes it's just concern...maybe relax and stop white-knighting. Pretty sure we can speak for ourselves if we feel slighted 😂😋.
@@buckycore fair enough. My comment could seem a bit cavalier, and I probably should have been more careful to qualify my words. So now, I just want to clarify that my intent wasn't to shame anyone. I am disabled and struggle with severe mental health issues myself. I'm certainly not coming from a judgmental place. And it definitely isn't abelism. I just think maladaptive coping mechanisms are harmful and it's good to be aware of when you're engaging in them. It wasn't an attack on Neal. I have respect for him. I think he's genuinely trying to be the best version of himself. I pointed to a thing in his behavior he may want to address. He's free to take it or leave it. He seems to be open to learning about himself and others (hence this podcast), and sometimes it takes someone making us aware that we may be unconsciously doing something that's problematic for our lives. My comment was from a place of love.
As far as him not hurting anyone with this behavior, I'd wager those on the receiving end of having their feelings unheard because Neal is busy writing bits in his head instead of being present are hurt by that behavior. And I'd also wager it negatively affects his life in a number of ways as a result.
Having mental illness and trauma is not a free pass to behave hurtfully to others just because we're broken. And it isn't abelist to say as much. It's not everyone else's responsibility to just absorb our hurtful behavior because we're unwell. And yes, it's also not our fault we have whatever issues we have, but it is our responsibility to manage them as best we can. That requires awareness and accountability for our actions. It's not about blame or shame. It's about not unintentionally hurting others with our hurt. It's about trying to mitigate how much our issues hold us back from a healthy, fulfilling life. It's about respecting others the way we wish to be respected. And we'll all fail at times. That's okay. But the goal needs to be recognizing the mistake and doing better the next time.
There's a difference between acceptance and not caring. There's also a difference between caring and anxiously always trying to please. I'm not saying it's easy.
Fascinating podcast, the best one of yours I've seen. It was nearly the perfect length, except I wanted a little more Marc Maron, like a little more cow bell :)
"There's just some things you're not gonna be able to un-fuck." -Marc Maron
Im obsessed with this podcast. 🫣🫠
The truth about most monogamous relationships is that it’s usually more stress and strife than it’s worth. People can try to make it work but usually the cons outweigh the pros. Everyone focuses on the exceptions to the rule (i.e., my grandparents are still together and seem kinda happy). But we know the divorce rate. We’re sold a myth and people spend decades of their lives trying to make the myth work. But it’s a myth.
Oh yeah, I have a crush on some Lyonne.
I miss Portlandia!!
Completely relate to mark maron😂
Fred rules.
The Cramps in Tulum lol
Where you been? From the Birds Eye view of the Olympus mons, the sir replied!
Me too and I’m straight!
Maron has issues with people he refers to as unfuckable hate nerds, but what if someone is completely loving and unfuckable?
Don’t wait for an “afterlife” that doesn’t exist. Life is 1 and done.
Maybe for you.
Fred always gave me the impression of being asexual and societal pressures made him think he needed to be in relationships. I think Natasha was one of the best things to happen to him and she too I find might be asexual. This is just my opinion.
You can’t just decide other people’s sexualities for them. That’s not an opinion. Neither of them are asexual.
I mean he's married and none of us know him personally so we should probably not make assumptions
Wierd opinion
I think it was a lavender relationship.
is this current? is maron still with his young gf?
Kinda sad.
I always thought Freddie was gae. He comes across as a bossy bottom.
Elisabeth Moss.
This guy talks too much. Ugh. I couldn’t even finish this.
Paralyzed… or emotionally constipated, haha
It's one of my firmest beliefs that stand-ups and improv comics are completely undateable
Exhausting
i dated her too. Dennis The Menace Era. So. What?
sabob-ed Huffy.
Three of the biggest weirdos explaining why they can’t find love.
Truth 😂