Thoughts? Stories? Your own experiences at the NHS or other universal healthcare where you live? 🏥🩺 Serious question here, is there "health insurance" for when you travel to the United States? I could not imagine wanting to step foot here and being terrified you'll get injured and end up in a hospital or emergency room.
You can get travel insurance which includes some healthcare coverage as well as repatriation to UK, but full healthcare coverage is pretty expensive as I recall. I've no idea what current prices are for that. Personally, I've spent over 6 months travelling the US in my life and never bought the additional health insurance however I did get LDW/CDW whenever I rented a vehicle, which was a personal assessment of likelihood of an adverse event.
Yes, you can obtain a travel policy which will include medical insurence. Many policies will cover between £5m to £10,000,000 of cover for the medical side of things. Dependant on age and any pre-existing medical issues many annual policies will cost about £100 or less.
I was considering visiting the US again but at my age now and having had a stroke 5 years ago which I recovered from, it is just not going to happen, instead I am going to head for Germany, Poland and Czech to do some sightseeing along with a trip to Ireland.
My home insurence includes a travel insurance that covers emergency care and if needed, medical flight back to Sweden. Im sure you can get extra insurence, but Ive never done that when travelling in the US.
There's a very interesting Evan Edinger video where the NHS doctor tries to estimate how much those treatments would cost the taxpayer. Obviously all those things are thankfully free to the patient - but even the cost that the taxpayer is charged is way lower. There's no justification, even if they're looking to make a profit, for charging that much. ruclips.net/video/x0MBrfqwdEg/видео.html
I'm the Indian doctor in the video. Really liked your take on this. I've now been working in the NHS in the UK for the past year as an emergency doctor and started recently as a general surgeon and the system, although deeply flawed, provides a very big social safety net which I think every advanced economy should have. That being said, if I were a patient with adequate insurance, I would prefer getting treated either in the US or back home in India in a private hospital. NHS is underfunded and it is very difficult to access specialist care for elective things (things that won't kill you). But for life or limb threatening issues, NHS possibly provides the best care in the world. Comparing Indian, British and the American system - I would definitely prefer the Indian healthcare overall as a patient.
As someone from the UK, I think you are probably right. The NHS when correctly funded is amazing, but it was already underfunded prior to the pandemic. With that and the backlog it created, it desperately needs additional funding. I do hope the politicians get their act together to sort it out!
Hey Ajay appreciate it! Great and informative video as I still try to wrap my head around the costs (or lack thereof) in the UK and in this video, India which was a bonus for me to hear about and more enlightening. And congratulations on working for the NHS in the UK now! Good insight of how the NHS currently is when comparing the UK, India, and the US. Although the NHS seems excellent overall, I've been hearing through comments that there are it's issues and articles about the NHS being underfunded. Overall, I greatly appreciate your honesty and transparency in the world of healthcare! In my family we have one pharmacist and two nurses, and one aspiring to become a doctor of some sort but many years out. Very interesting to listen to and wrap my head around the differences between our great countries.
I just want to say thank you to you for working in our NHS, it must be extremely stressful, we keep hearing on the news about all the problems with the system, but if it wasn't for the wonderful doctors and nurses there would be no system at all. Our government has failed to take care of the NHS for many years I hope they will listen to the public eventually and do something positive, we love our NHS and can't imagine not having it. Thank you, you are all wonderful people.
I'm a retired UK doctor and would agree with your comment, '... for life or limb threatening issues, the NHS possibly provides the best care in the world.' However, the system is currently creaking significantly when it comes to non-urgent (elective) aspects of care. The causes of this are multifactorial - the lasting impact of the pandemic, under-funding, shortages of healthcare professionals (this is a global issue affecting many medical and allied specialties), an ageing population and the need for people to embrace healthier lifestyles and take greater responsibility for their own health. The latter is also an issue affecting many westernised nations and healthcare systems.
Thank you to you and all your colleagues in the NHS. As someone with long term medical problems I am grateful every single day for the NHS and those people working in it, Thank You again sir, your service is very much appreciated.
I live in India. A few years ago I came off my motor bike and cut up my knee somewhat. There was a private hospital, part of a well known chain, very close by, where I was attended to almost immediately, - doctor and two or three nurses. I think that cost me a couple of thousand rupees or so (maybe US$50 max). The doctor gave me a prescription, three items on it, and asked me to go to the in-house pharmacy. The pharmacist got me the stuff, and when I asked how much I owed him, he said "Twelve". Thinking "that's not bad" I started counting 1200 rupees (about $15). "No, no, no", he said, "twelve rupees". That's about 15 cents US. Now how much would that little episode have cost me in the US?
Australia - my husband has 2nd degree burns on his feet. He was put into hospital, in the specialised burns unit. Has 2 skin graft operations, he was in hospital for 14days, he had after care come to the house, he had specialised boots made for him and the biggest cost I had was the road tolls and parking to visit him
Just reading the list of items your husband went through from the treatment to specialized/custom boots to recover would have cost a fortune here, not to mention being at the hospital for 14 days. Incredible. Wish your husband the best debkendall!
@@californianreacts Thankfully Australia has an amazing healthcare system, you should check it out. We have the public system which is provided by Medicare through taxes and it will not cost you a cent to go to a public hospital or for treatment, even in an Emergency, that's the last thing you should have to worry abuot in an Emergency is the cost. You can also elect to have private insurance where you can select your own Doctors for surgeries ect and a few more luxuries in the hospital itself but most people are more than happy with the public system. As someone with chronic health conditions who regularly visits a GP (General Practitioner) for free along with any visits to Emergency, its one less financial worry and stress to not have. As I'm a Disability Pensioner, I have a concession card so I also get my medications subsidised by the Government for $7.30 each script under the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS). Once I hit the yearly safety net for medications of $262.70 this year (which is usually June/July for me), my medications are free for the remainder of the calendar year. Non concession card holders (general pubic) the costs for medications is $30 and a safety net of $1563.50 for the calendar year. What really makes me laugh is that my specialist medications I get for my Arthritis which are covered by our Government only cost me $7.30 per script but can cost the Government up to $1500 or more. The funniest part is that that medication is made in the US and I'm very intrigued to find out how much that same medication is sold for there, certainly not what I'm paying or what my Government pays!! I can only imagine the cost!! Then as a concession card holder, I can also get free Pathology (I regularly get blood tests), scans such as Ultrasounds, CT's, and MRI's for free. I've also had 4 Major Back surgeries (only 38) and as I also have private Health Insurance, I get those little luxuries in the hospital (they have amazing food too, you get a daily newspaper and other little luxuries) and I get to choose my Surgeon or Doctor I like. All four of my surgeries ended up being around $15,000 each and yet cost me nothing to have them done through my Private Insurance, sorry, I did have to pay about $20 for pain medications that weren't covered by insurance and were full price due to going through my insurance company. If I went through the public system, I would maybe have had to go on a waiting list, although my last surgery was classed as urgent and it all would have been for free. My private health insurance was top level and was costing me around $4000 a year at the time of my last surgery 2.5 years ago. Also my insurance covered all my Physiotherapy sessions following each surgery. If I had to live in the US, I don't know how I would survive!! I really don't know how those with chronic conditions can live!! Healthcare is a basic right, not something that you should have to choose between. The US just seems so far behind many other countries, not just in Healthcare, even some third world countries have better healthcare than the US!!
People in the uk complain about the NHS but I was hospitalised for a week and walked out not worried about loosing my home. Health care is not a business and is regulated in Britain. As a nurse I struggle to understand how anyone can survive illness in the USA. 😢
they often don't. People get sick, don't go to the doctor, get sicker, miss work, get fired, can't afford anything, die of severe case of pneumonia. Documented case that was in the papers
i went into the nhs with a broken leg, got treated for appendicitis instead, and spent6 months in the hospital on the waiting list for a transplant (nhs literally caused me to have a severe heart attack) at my height its not good that my heart gave out (7'7") and as a result i now technically have 2 hearts due to my oversized heart, it may have all been free, but if they treated my broken leg, i wouldnt be sitting here with a donor heart in my chest, id be my old self with no other issues
@@bigfrankfraser1391 Yeah, i highly doubt that. They might sometimes undertreat you if you’re not persistent enough but they won‘t give you a friggin donor organ for no reason.
Also, just to emphasize, here the Indian doctor is talking only about the cost estimates of the best private sector hospitals in India, but in government hospitals, we have superspeciality treatment of patients fully free or at a very very low cost that anybody can easily afford in India.
I've seen other videos where Americans are asked what they think about "socialist healthcare" and a common answer is "Why should I pay for someone else's healthcare", but if they have insurence they're already paying for someone else's healthcare. Many Americans' health insurance is paid by their employer if they have good jobs, but if the employer didn't pay the insurence they could pay the employee more which would more than cover any extra taxes they would have to pay for 'socialist healthcare'.
It's just ineffective socialist healthcare and it's worse just giving your money to one insurance company. Hospitals don't honestly think uninsured patients have an extra $2.5M lying around. If they had that much money they would more than likely have insurance afterall. What they expect is some patients will come in with better insurance that covers more. So if you go in and your insurance covers say $100k that's not the cost to the hospital. That's your cost and maybe the next two patients who aren't going to pay. Maybe a hospital will get some money out of you but more than likely will sell patient debt to debt collectors. Even if a patient fully pays off their debt that's going to their debt collectors, possible multiple debt collectors buying and selling their debt, the hospital is getting almost nothing compared to what patients pay. End result everyone pays down a fraction of the collective costs of a hospital or socialized medicine. Except because capitalism it's very expensive and ineffective since you need to cover profit, lobbying and layers of bureaucracy including billing. Which would be bad enough but of course you aren't paying for healthcare, your insurance probably covers in network with a limit to how much you get a year. So your insurance may not cover an emergency situation you need it for but will be covering for sometime who can't pay their bill. No idea how it could possibly be worse.
My gosh, american civilisation is so morally bankrupt. "Why should you pay for someone else healthcare ?" you ask ? Is it a serious question ? I don't know maybe because he's a human just like you and you are capable of solidarity ? Maybe when you're dealing with seriously bad decease it's better to at least be released of financial issue. And maybe when it's your turn to have a bad decease you will be happy to get solidarity from others.
@@cupguin It's very weird and fasinating how US healthcare systems charge such exorbant amounts which is just unjustified... Even though the NHS has inefficiencies, its much better than selling your home to fix a fracture... Here in India, even though their wasn't any kind of organised way in the health sector, somehow many hospitals sprang up independently... The govt. hospitals ain't great and does receives free appointements and surgeries for only low income groups, and many of the hospitals lack facilities... Whereas private hospitals were established by religious institutions and other society oriented groups mostly, with many of them having world class facilites (though they r costly for a middle class Indian but you won't lose your home), these institutions without any prior arrangement had some sort of a self regulation in terms of cost since they were less profit oriented. This also pushed other profit oriented hospitals as well to reduce their price or they wouldn't survive in a free market. It worked out well enough, but many ( like Millions ) of them still can't access these facilities...
“Illness is neither an indulgence for which people have to pay, nor an offence for which they should be penalised, but a misfortune, the cost of which should be shared by the community.” Nye bevan Founder of the NHS.
I like the way that at the start they are saying "oh that will cost $800 or $2,000" and by the end they are guessing hundreds of thousands because their expectations have changed.
And they are saying something they know will be expensive since it's the US and they are still way low on their guesses. Imagine guessing, in your mind, an outrageous amount and then BAM! x5-x10 the amount you guessed is the true cost. Crazy.
@@valley-girl "Middle class". Indians throw that word around A LOT when the actual bracket is very very small in India. Most indians who think they are upper middle class are just middle class and yes, it's great for them.
For me, the US system is not "Health Care", it's "Illness Monetization". I live in Austria, Europa. My highest medical bill so far was around 120 €. For 10 days of my wife or me being with our son in a separate room to cure an illness that had affected his nerve system. We both got three free meals per day and as much tea, coffe or sirup as we wanted.
You should read about "Medical tourism in India" , its a growing sector in India. I have seen videos on youtube where people have shared their experiences of treatment in India and I believe medical tourism will grow in the coming years. PS : Would love to see your mom guess Pharmacy expenses across different countries.
@@alileevil lol Indian doctors are the best at doing their job in the world. It's the system ( management and infrastructure that holds it back) but universal healthcare is affordable and accessible to all.
@@BinodiniMahapatra-pz7vv Having experienced doctors both in India and abroad, Indian doctors are woefully behind when it comes to accurate diagnosis and surgical skill. Granted some are very knowledgeable as they see a wide variety of cases, but when they come across a case they haven't dealt with before, they cannot connect the dots, but rather go on with their conventional practice. I was suffering from restless leg syndrome and went to one of the best vascular doctor in the city. All he did was perform a normal Doppler scan which revealed nothing. Later on while researching the topic myself, I found that my seating position and posture was giving me problems. The doctor didn't even consider this during the diagnosis!
My brother was treated for drug resistant TB for ELEVEN YEARS !!! Not only did he not pay a penny for the treatment, but he got the best treatment that money could have bought !!!! Long live the NHS ...
@@UMIunited it is treatable, be happy don't worry don't lose hope Perseverance is the key. Fight hard and fight strong. You will live and you will live long, uraaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. TB is the enemy, you have to fight to destroy it .
@@Mr_Weast_FM They're not that high, really. Over a certain amount of wages (£1,250 standard) you get charged a percentage in tax. Any wages under that, you don't pay tax, or if you're on benefits/not working. Sure it's not free, but the alternative isn't worth thinking about. For example: I have asthma, which I have had since I was 7. As a kid, I never paid for my inhalers, up until i started working. I pay £9.50 for an inhaler, (I buy 2 inhalers, so £19) every 3 months. In America, that would be $600 for an inhaler, $1,200 for 2... Almost a full months wage. The greatest thing the Devil did was convince man he doesn't exist, but even HE is impressed by the pharmaceutical companies convincing the average American that socialist healthcare is bad. 😅
man these bills are soo crazy,, From India here, My dad had a heart attack back in 2011 and we rushed him in the emergency room in a Private Hospital, it is one of the best private hospitals here. total cost was around 250,000 rupees(total stay of 9 days), around 4500 of that time and 3000 according to todays exchange rate, i am just horrified to think how much it would have cost if we were inn the US.
My last baby was born via an emergency c/section in a private hospital in Australia, with two obstetricians in attendance. My 9-year-old daughter watched her newborn sister's first breastfeed in the recovery area of the operating theatre (with a midwife escort) before she helped to bathe her sister. The midwives gave my husband and daughter their evening meal as they because too busy to take a meal break due to my c/section! My daughter slept the first night on a fold up bed in my room. My husband slept on a sofa bed and the baby slept with me! It certainly wasn't the usual series of events. Three of our children had died from a genetic disease, (the eldest was 6 years old.) I wanted to have quality family time before we had to share the baby. The obstetricians, the private hospital, the midwives and all the staff made it exceptionally memorable, and it was all at no cost to us!
I had a problem last year that was difficult to diagnose. I had 5 face to face consultations. 6 ECG scans 1 MRI scan 1 Ultrasound scan 1 breathing capacity test 1 X-ray 1 CAT scan Turned out it was a side effect from doubling the dose of a medication. Changed to a different medication and problem solved. I live in the UK. Total bill received from the NHS? .... Zero 😁 I'm retired, so don't pay for prescriptions.
to think i just went AnE for feeling ill had 2 ECGs and a X-ray and blood taken to just be told i have Covid and if that was in the States i would of been walking out with a bill over $20,000 is actually insane to think about.
It's quite simple, the US Healthcare system is run for profit, so many corporations and individuals are profiting from the US system that you have in the US a powerful and rich lobby that doesn't want any changes to the system, they don't care about people either dying or going bankrupt because of the system as long as they can fill their pockets with millions of dollars.
And if you're insured, they'd charge the insurance company 1/4 of that... which is still outrageous, but if you're not the insurance company you're just fleeced.
Not to mention that when the general American public are asked if they’d have an NHS style healthcare, they always say no and that it’s communism/socialism. They don’t want to help other people “why should I pay for others”, so they cut their nose off to spite their face. Weird people.
Had a preventative healthcare check up sometime back in a very good private hospital in India. Paid half of the cost as insurance covered half. The checkup included around 80+ blood tests, eye checkup, ultrasound, mammogram, Pap smear, ECG, TMT test, 3 doctor consultations and more. I paid $125. They provided good breakfast and lunch as well 😊
Sounds great, Ruchi! There's a lot in that checkup plus the added bonus of a good breakfast. I don't want to know what they serve for breakfast here in the US.
@@californianreacts It was a typical Indian breakfast - Dosa, Idly, Vada. But the great thing was we got to know that my mother's arteries are partially blocked due to this checkup. Early intervention with medicines has greatly lessened the chance of an emergency medical procedure in the future, which could have been quite risky and costly at the same time. People underestimate the benefits of preventive care I think.
I’m Swedish. I’ve been on sick leave (paid) since May and it’ll end in February, I had a spina fusion surgery performed on me at a private hospital in October and I stayed there for three nights recovering, it cost me 20 dollars…
@@frozencrow8735 No, tax paid. If a public hospital can’t provide care within a set time limit you can choose among private options, they usually have shorter waiting lists.
I live in Germany. Last year, I was in hospital for almost 5 months. I'll sum up some of the treatments: 90 km Ambulance ride to a specialized Clinic together with a Doctor in a second car behind us around 200 transfusions combined (full blood & white cells only) 6 X-rays, 2 MRIs, 4 Bone Marrow Biopsies, 4 lung functions, 4 ultrasounds, and some other stuff A Bone Marrow Transplantation Because I'm not allowed to drive on my own or use public transportation at the moment. My health insurance pays for a taxi every 2 weeks I need to have my blood testing done in a hospital which is 90 km away from my home. (that's 180 km in total - around €450) I don't have to pay for any medication or visits to any doctor and such. Usually, we need to pay €5 for medicine that costs up to €900 and €10 when the package costs more than €900. But we can get around that by paying 2% of our annual income to the health insurance-- only 1% if it's a chronic disease (my case) Because I paid my share (1% of annual income/Year) upfront, I had not a single bill for all of that. And I will never get a bill. Everything I need is covered by my health insurance and my 1% share.
And I would bet your insurance paid less for that than that one week treatment in the video ... thanks to our gouvernment regulated healthcare prices in germany 🙂
@@praiodansmagicbox4094 For sure. Although, it's still expensive. One bone marrow biopsy is around €2k -- don't know about the rest. My most expensive medication is €11200 for a pack of 50.
@@praiodansmagicbox4094 Ambnulance rides aren't exactly cheap here either but you don't have to pay out of your own pocket. I needed one 2 years ago including a doctor (makes it a little more expensive because ambulances by default only come with 2 medics and if needed a doctor / notarzt will be send seperatly). The bill stated 3300€ and i had to pay 10€ of that by myself. So yeah the true cost for my health insurance is a lot higher but I don't have to pay it which is nice.
It's called extortion, greed, avarice. Totally immoral. Doctors and hospital bosses in the U.S. must live in huge mansions and drive around in gold-plated Rolls-Royces. Their spouses must own at least 3 Bugatti's each. Unbelievable. American health "care" needs reforming desperately.
I was ill at the start of December. After a few days I went to A&E on the advice of my BiL, a retired consultant. I was given treatment for the immediate problem and then antibiotics for an infection I picked up. Overall I was in hospital for 8 nights, Total cost £8 for the taxi to A&E - the NHS paid for the taxi back home. That includes a refill for most of my regular prescriptions (diabetes, high blood preasure). Less than a week later I blacked out when driving and hit a parked car. An ambulance took me to hospital, after checking I hadn't broken anything and giving me an ECG. A CT scan found I had a small subdural haematoma, The A&E doctor consulted a neurologist and they decided it did not need operating on, but they kept me in for 48 hours observation. This time my sister picked me up and I stayed with her over Christmas. I am very glad I don't live in the USA,
I've told this story in a comment on another creator's page but I think it fits here too. I was in the USA as a skill-swap exchange showing how we do archaeology in the UK compared to the US. It was April 2011 and it was going okay, I was frustrated because every shovel of dirt had to be sifted and the weather was giving me a gut feeling it wasn't going to go well. Thankfully my genuine, spine tingling panic was taken seriously and we went back to the farm where we were staying. The farmer was loading stuff into the cellar already, having had the same feeling I did. We kept the doors open for fresh air until the tornado sirens went off. The tornado passed very very close to the house and it was more than terrifying. I had students with me that were clinging onto me and my husband for dear life, I still have the scars on my upper arm where one girl gripped so hard her nails dug in deep. We weren't a direct hit, thank God, but it was too close for comfort. We couldn't leave even as the big one passed because so many were touching down in Northern Alabama. As the panic died down the USA team were discussing the number of Go Fund Me requests that would go out and if the people hit were going to choose between paying the medical bills or rebuild the house. It was a normal, everyday conversation about how it being April they personally would choose to pay off the bills and rebuild with whatever they had to get both costs down at the same time. I felt nauseated listening to them, mainly as it was so normal sounding, like deciding whether to get takeaway or get groceries... And I was sitting there thinking about the £200 per person group travel insurance would cover anything we would need in terms of care, and it broke my heart. When we got the all clear we emerged into sheer devastation. It reminded me of the pictures of London during the Blitz just with more dead animals and a Ford Pick-up smashed front first into the ground. As much as we wanted to get out of there and back to the UK we couldn't because the warnings kept coming over and over. I cried not because of the tornado, I cried thinking of the way two people living in the richest country on Earth, which could realistically fund free at the point of use medical programs in every country in the world if they halved defence spending, were blasé about the choice of medical care or a secure and watertight home. That should never be normal for anyone, anywhere. We left three days later and when I was invited back I gave one of the most resounding 'no's' of my life and let my colleagues think it was the fear of more tornadoes when it was actually some level of disgust that anyone should have to make those choices, but not at the people, it was at the systems.
I work in ultrasound in the NHS. The cost to the NHS of, for example, a 20 minute abdominal scan, including the salaries of the sonographer and HCAs, etc. and bearing in mind the cost and maintenance of machinery and premises (these vary from site to site depending on size - economies of scale and all that) should be no more that about £30-£35. A scan in a reputable private facility, where the practitioners a paid more and the provider wants to make as big a profit as they think they can get away with, would be £200-£300.
Appreciate the insight on this Tony! So much different here. Not sure what the price would be here after insurance picks up the cost but I'm assuming multiply that £200-£300 by quite a few times.
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As a working Imaging Radio-Technologist in Government hospital in india, I can say that the cost in india would be a lot affordable for medical treatments (combining all the services like ER, X-ray, CT scan, MRI scan, ECG, USG, Surgical procedure, ICU, Pharmacy, etc.). It would cost around 10-100$ for everything, includes Cancer treatments too. And if you have government approved cards which can be created for free of cost you will get everything done for free. Seeing this medical Bills made my head feel dizzy 🥴. I mean do they operate and do surgeries with Gold and diamond equipments or what?? 😂. It's ridiculous bro.
My relative in US who emigrated about 10 years ago. I won't disclose why but they had to call 911 and the ride on the ambulance to the emergency room ( about 5-7 mins) cost them 1000 dollars. Not kidding. They didn't give them anything. Just the ride.
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@@motabillakabaap 😳🤯🤯 seriously!!!, Even the ambulance charging that much, that's clearly just rip off 😣🤦
Here in italy when we buy prescription medicine there are usually two kinds (i'm keeping this simple): the original product made from the original producer, and generic versions that are made by everyone else when the patent expires and the recipe becomes public domain. A common medicine pack when original usually costs from 10 to 20 euros and that is often considered very expensive. the generics usually cost around 2 euros. All i've written is an oversemplification but i hope anyone who reads it finds it interesting.
Oversimplify away, gets the information across well and easy to compare to the prices here in the US to those in Italy. I did find it interesting, always do in how little prices are anywhere else outside of the US it seems. Also, love Italy, have traveled there a few times now from Rome, Florence, Pisa, Naples, and sailed by Stromboli a few weeks before it erupted a few years back. Absolutely beautiful country! Helps that I enjoy history and wine.
@@californianreacts Glad you enjoyed! may i suggest that, if you have a chance, you also visit the Lago di Garda (lake of Garda) and pther regions in the Alpes? I myself am from Lombardy with half of my family from the Pianura Padana (the plains basically) and half from valleys in the Alpes.
Yes, I think it's the same in just about every EU country, and other developed nations. One problem in the US is the ubiquitous pharmaceutical advertisements, urging people to ask their doctor for specific brands, even though generic versions are identical, and much more affordable. Huge profits always take priority over the patient's health. And the legal bribery of politicians by pharmaceutical and medical insurance companies guarantees that no government will ever introduce universal health-care. Instead they'll just keep on indoctrinating ordinary people to vote against their own best interests. It’s's absolutely disgusting.
@@rua5818 as an outsider when i see or hear about that and other things in the US, it becomes the scariest country on Earth, but i realize it is in part because i don't undertand the US not having ever lived there
Thank god Medical bills are very cheaper in our place. I had surgery recently and its cost was around 1300$ including recovery in multi speciality hospital in Banglore.
@lorenzos.5896 yes, but you're welcome to take them. I view just existing in the US as an extremesport. So cudos to all 400mill of yall. But pls get out before work kills you and and no health benefits kills you.
As an Aussie I recently spent 7 weeks in a public hospital I had 3 sets of X-rays over this period 2 injections every day 4 prescription medications daily and was attended by a team of 11 resident doctors and specialists in three different fields and underwent a catscan and an electrocardiogram , I was brought to the hospital in an ambulance and sent home in a taxi with a walker a shower seat and a commode total cost ZERO . I'm now on 7 medications daily for the rest of my life (around $6 per perception every 3 months ) with visits from my GP the district nurse and a pathologist for blood work every 6 months all free with the exception of my meds . I am a pensioner but because my doctor bulk bills I haven't paid for anything other than prescriptions for over 20 yrs .our system isn't exactly free of course we pay a tax levy even pensioners , but we are given tax incentives , to encourage us to take out private health insurance , which is still miles in front of anything the USA has to offer .
@@Mr_Weast_FM you payed it too in USA thru taxes but money obviously don't go for patients care then to wealthy pharmacy or for hospital stuff and so on
In the UK everything is 'free' in hospital. In England you pay a set fee for prescriptions of £9.35 per item regardless of what it is. There is no charge for non working, kids, pregnant ladies or pensioners. Yes you can get travel insurance for travelling to the US. You can get worldwide travel insurance fairly cheap but it doubles if you are visiting the US!
@@orwellboy1958 It is always free in Scotland and it might be in Wales and N. Ireland as well. In England 60% of prescriptions are not paid for because sick people are more likely to be in the groups that qualify for free prescriptions.
Plus if you have certain conditions where you HAVE to take medication to save you from life-threatening outcomes you are exempt from prescription charges on EVERYTHING.
In Germany you also 5€ for every perscription so when your go to the pharmacy and want some i don't know simple stuff also, that's more expensive then the big medicine you got from the doctor xD but then also when it's stuff you are chronical it's mostly free. So the two medicals i need always fit my heart and stomach are free
In July of last year I admitted myself to hospital in the UK having suddenly lost about 90% of the function of my left arm. I underwent CT scans, MRI scans and blood tests to reveal I had suffered an acute double stroke. I stayed in hospital for 4 days undergoing monitoring and physio. I was prescribed 5 separate medications. Upon discharge I underwent a six month programme of home visit physiotherapy, exercise and monitoring. I have had heart scans, heart monitoring for 24 hours, blood tests. My care has been exceptional and I have now made a full recovery. Add to that continued dependence on the five medications and all for the grand total cost of £30.00 ($40.00) which was paid to the taxi drivers who took me to and from my initial hospital visit. I pay about 10% of my salary in National Insurance which pays for the NHS. I am so thankful to be British!
They have been the subject of decades of lies by politicians who are paid for by the medical industry - they believe that they have the "Best" medical system. Ignorance is bliss i guess.
Hi there. I'm from Argentina. In 1991, we went to the U.S.A. (Pomona, California) and we lived there for 5 years. One day, few months after settling there, my Dad was working on the engine of our pick up truck, and the battery exploded. One part of the battery hit him in the chin and knocked him unconscious. Also, some grime and crap from the battery (which was almost empty) ended up in his eyes, nose and mouth. Our neighbours called 911 and after like 10 minutes we had a firetruck, an ambulance and two cop cars in front of the house we were living in. In those 10 minutes my Dad was up by himself, talking and cleaning himself in the bathroom so when the help arrived most of that grime was washed away by him and he even cleansed his chin wound and used superglue to close it, as many people do here in my country (we're talking about little flesh wounds here, like a couple of centimeters long). Aaaanyways... after a couple of hours in the hospital where they used saline solution to wash his eyes and nose, and a couple of stitches to the wound, he was discharged and came home. A week later we went to collect the mail from the mailbox and there was an envelope from the hospital he was treated in. My Mom opened it and when she read it she almost fainted!! The hospital was charging us almost $1300 for their services! Coming from Argentina where that treatment would've been TOTALLY FREE of charge, and taking into account the fact that we were living on a pretty tight budget back then, it was a blow that almost put an end to our staying in the U.S.A. Our family there helped us out, thankfully. Untill this day, more than three decades later, I still can not understand your health system which seems so shockingly unfair, almost tyrannical.
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Hi. I've watched a few of this type of presentation about US healthcare charges and was shocked. This literally had me watching with my mouth wide open. It really is not acceptable in a modern country like the US. It is no less than disgusting. You keep well pal.
I always appreciate the hospitals , doctors and nurses in India but this gave me diffrent perspective that how good of a place we are at in medical care , if i get a flu i go to a doctor without even thinking twice cause i know it's gonna cost me a day worth of food money at max, I don't know how people survive in US
It's not just about the cost. It's also about the time- what they've not covered here is the time to consult for non emergency services. Imagine having to wait for 3-4 months for your gall stone surgery. In India, you get it in 1-2 days as soon as initial evaluation is done.
My brothers dog just yesterday had surgery after getting into the trash and eating everything in there. After surgery my brother owes the vet $18,000. I wish I were joking. No insurance for pets although some vets offer it.
@@californianreacts Jeez. We have dog insurance so the £300 bill came out as £99 excess we paid plus 20% or total so we got around half paid back through the insurance within 3 days. Plus a follow up visit of around £250 + pills £75 we only had to cover 20% of the total with the excess already covered as it's part of the same claim. No forms to fill out either it's all done via the Pawtel network by the vets. For a years insurance it's is £107.
My cat recently had to have surgery to remove her spleen. Including X-rays, drugs, operation costs, lab costs etc. it came to just over £2100 and this also included two follow up visits. I only had a basic insurance for her but I was able to claim back £1500.
Whats really sick is they are totally right about the jet. You will pay anything from $30.000 to $50.000 to charter a plane + crew to fly from London to New York city. So yes the poor person that payed over 300k would have been a hell of a lot better off if his family got him a private jet to fly him to the UK where he would have then been treated. I dare say he also would have also gotten much better treatment, the adverage British person lives 3 years more than the adverage American, much of that has todo with the quality of healthcare. Also there is a 50% higher chance as a mother that your new baby will die in the USA than UK, again because the quality of care in the US.
I only saw a couple of episodes of 'House MD' but did they ever show the patient being presented with the bill after days of diagnostics and treatment and dying from shock?
In india c section in a standard middle class private hospital would cost 30k Indian rupee nearly 350$ , in government hospital that would be free by government policies this includes all medicine operation diagnosis etc so you can compare difference in bills
Over ten years.2 ambulance, 3monthly mri scans, Two brain surgeries, a few ct scans. Couple of short notice emergency ct scans, over the course of Ten years + meds, 30 days of chemotherapy, about 8 days on a ward. This is all just related to my brain tumour. Before my tumour i had a few unrelated surgeries from grommets as kid to a couple of others as an adult. Oh nearly forgot the month of physiotherapy. Now i dropped down to ongoing six monthly scan. Now what have been invoiced/ had to pay, debt accrued £0.00 zilch, nowt, none,nothing.
A Canadian here and just came across this video. Three years ago, I had a heart attack leading to quintuple bypass surgery. Two week stay in hospital and a year of monthly visits to doctors. Now still have six month and yearly contacts with doctors for check-ups. Medications for the past three years. My total cost for the entire thing...ZERO!!! Glad to be living in Canada!!!
I work at European hospital...the amount of American healthcare tourism we get has been increasing more and more when they realize they can fly over, enjoy modern healthcare, spend week or two in a good hotel before flying back and still be able to afford sports car or two to make up for the difference.
I was in the hospital here in Denmark when I was 18 with heart complications. Over 2 days, I had EKG's taken every 6 hours, medication to line out the complications, scans and blood tests, food and nurses and doctors. I got out with a $120 bill for the meds i had to take home. That was it. This is absolutely insane!
3 days ago I went to hospital at 3pm with abdominal pain, had blood screenings,a consultation and a CT scan before midnight and was put on a drip of mixed antibiotics after reaching a conclusion of diverticulitis. They kept me overnight to monitor (my only complaint being that it's impossible to sleep on an active ward lol) and let me go the following afternoon after feeding me and giving a week's worth of mixed tablets. £0 and am feeling better already. We cannot let the NHS become privatised.
Astonishingly good video and reaction. crazy costs in the US. My wife works in a UK pharmacy , she could tell you medicine costs in the UK if you want to do a comparison with you mothers figures. great reaction, your level headed approach is spot on. Well done.
Appreciate it, Bobmeanstreak! I do my best to give honest opinions and the general thoughts of other Americans on topics to hopefully give you a feel for how it truly is here in the US. I might have to take you up on that for medicine costs and have my mother give me some common costs for medicine compared to those in the UK/NHS.
@@californianreacts Your sale sets you apart. Many reactors steam and ho;;er their way through, but considered opinions count for much more..., I f you want to get some medicines, defined by type, strength and quantity and I'll see what price a pharmacy here would pay for them. Keep safe, have a good day.
In New Zealand and have ANCA vasculitis. When I was first diagnosed with heart, kidney and lung damage I spent about 11 weeks in two hospitals, one where I had dialysis and chemotherapy, one where I had a heart valve replacement and we did all that with an estimated 15% chance I'd get through. There were cat scans at the time and follow ups including endoscopy and weekly blood tests. All of that was free. Most prescriptions are $5 each, and I've gone down from fourteen to six a day, with a maximum of $100 per financial year. I am almost at year 4 and am very grateful to live in New Zealand. We spent generations building up our health care system.
My uncle lived in the USA for a long time, and he broke his ankle, this was in the late 60s or early 70's, he told them just put a cast on to keep his foot stabil, it cost 1000 dollars, then he got on a plane and had the OP in England free the flight was a lot less than the OP in the USA he saved around 10000. Before I forget a close friend who worked for Airbus had suddenly heart problems and had to have open heart surgery, he would have liked to fly back but they said it's too dangerous, lucky for my friend AIRBUS payed for everything, I don't know what the end bill was but I would think around 250 k, know he is a grandad to 11 kids who were all delivered at NO COST here in Germany. well you pay your insurance but thats it.
Incredible, and smart for your uncle to travel back. I've heard of stories (someone I knew from Russia back in college) who would travel back to Russia to have dental work done, and others from Mexico to get medicine, dental work, and so on for a fraction of the price. Happy to hear Germany has a great medical system in place to take care of their citizens. Crazy concept, right? 😢
@@californianreacts Oh Germany has similar issues like the NHS. You don't lose life or limbs, but the system is in constant triage mode to reduce costs and you might wait for non essential specialists for months. You still get emergency surgery even on the same day if you need it … well, at least before COVID. So it's certainly not perfect, but it seems a reasonable compromise for the most part. And if the US system would be just more expensive, but better you could call it reasonable too, but it's worse while still costing more.
NHS is good but for electives , u have to wait for 2-3 months minimum , even in US ( especially for mental health) The wait itself will lead to disease progression in many cases ! India has great access and any patient will be seen in a day itself
A few years ago an English woman on holiday in the US had a heart scare ,spent a week in hospital and was then presented with a bill for 1/2 million dollars . Her travel insurance company went ballistic and refused to pay it . After a lot of negotiation between the hospital and the insurance company the the bill was reduced and the insurance company coughed up .I don't know the final figure that was settled on . 🇬🇧
A friend of mine living in Seattle needed an MRI and was told it would cost $5k+ . He decided to visit his family in Ireland with his wife & 2 children and have the MRI while visiting and it was still cheaper than having the MRI in Seattle .
Number 1 tip for Americans in need of surgery, dental work or eye surgery: 1)look up european hospitals and contact asking about prices for a surgery. 2)Book a flight and a 1 month vacation to that country. 3)Get everything done for 1/10th the price, while enjoying a vacation hiking through the mountains, visiting old towns and castles, or sunbathing at the beach. 4)Realize how fucked up the US can be and how badly it treats its citizens. 5)Move to another country, where you earn 1/4th of your US salary, but no longer have to pay health insurance, school, no more mass shootings (Italy has had like 2 in the last 30 years), no more open container absurd laws (you can literally be drinking wine in front of the cops as long as breathalyzer is under the limit), less aggressive police (where else would the cops make you sit in the back of the car, uncuffed and with no partitioning), less strict laws (you will get house arrest for most non-violent crimes as first offender), easy taxes (they're all included in the price you see on display, and your taxes from working are automatically taken from each paycheck and are mostly paid by your employer), by law you get at least a month of paid vacation a year, you don't need health insurance since the state covers everyone through taxes (unless you want fancy private healthcare), some surgeries for health problems that impede your daily life are free and paid for by the government (even some eye surgeries like myopia laser treatment) as long as it is a health related surgery and not an estethic/non-essential surgery, and much more.
I’ve always worked for Xerox, a huge American company in UK. Part of my package was private healthcare & visiting their “campus” in Rochester, New York State they had their own ambulance fleet & own fire engines, it was a really good company to work for. Having private healthcare in UK just means one can jump to the top of the queue in terms of tests, seeing a consultant or having a none life threatening operation. One cannot get a private ambulance for an emergency & I have been air ambulanced because I came off a horse & had a head injury, this is also just part of NHS service.
Former CNA from US (California, North Carolina, Illinois). I've been in Finland for years. Because of ice I've broken my arm several times. Trip to ER with 2 doctor consults, 2 x-rays, pain meds, setting and casting... 30 Euro. The US taxes may predominantly go to fund the military, but if 2% more would fund universal health care it would be worth it (bye-bye health insurance - or keep it as an option). How to motivate Americans to demand the change? Things like this really help inform them. What to do about the bloated "heath care industry" ? Clearly it's a complex problem. Keep up the good work.
I am just sooo happy that in 16 years living in the States I never needed a doctor or hospital... Now back in Europe I still am in great health but if that ever changes, I don't have to fear going into debt
Brazilian here. Had a cousin do 3 major surgeries after a car accident. Two on the knees, one on some region of the back. He stayed something like around a month total in the hospital (multiple visits). Had to have 8 months of physical therapy. He said the most expensive for him was a medicine that would cost him 150 reais every month. That's 30 dollars.
Our system is bad for anything but the most serious conditions. But if a situation is life threatening or limb threatening SUS will absolutely take care of you. There is also a LOT of coverage regarding any kind of expensive medicine, and several cheap ones too. You could buy insulin for about 5 dollars, but if you go through the proceedings, you will get it for free if you wish.
Yes, please do a vid with your pharmacist mother. The NHS negotiates a set price with US drug companies, and because the NHS is such a huge entity (like other country's health services) they can negotiate a RESONABLE price for their drugs... unlike native US hospitals.
10:08 fun fact about a 12k dollar hospital bill: I have just researched that i could get a 52 day cruise ship holiday going form Sydney, Austrialia to Hamburg, Germany, while reaching 20 destinations in 9 different countries on 3 different continents for 13.5k euros (~14k dollar). Your choice.
🇮🇳 Once I suffered from a major illness, and during two month treatment I, we had pay something 30 $ It's was govt. hospital where A - Z all facilities were available, only we payed medicine from outside. INDIAN medical system is advance ❤️
Speak for yourself, country like India which is lower middle income country, 90% Indians are 1 bill away from slipping into poverty. It may be affordable to you but not Many Indians who can’t afford treatment.
The higher taxes thing is a myth. By the time an average American is done with taxes and health insurance payments, they're paying about 40-45% of their wage. As opposed to 20-25% in the EU on average
In Australia here. I always get insurance when travelling overseas, with the sole exception for when I visit New Zealand. Most travel insurance also has emergency flights back to Australia, so if you get hospitalised with something really serious at some stage it is cheaper for the insurance company to fly you home in a private plane than for them to pay for continued long term hospital care.
Last year I had to stay in a psychiatric clinic for almost 3 months because of depression. The only thing my parents had to pay was the ambulance. It was €6 ($6.43). Looking at what my insurance covered, my almost *3 month* long stay in a psychiatric clinic cost €33 316.39 ($35 715.84) all covered by insurance. I live in Germany
I'm glad you had great and cheap/nearly free care in Germany (minus the very minimal ambulance ride). That cost of 33k is impressive to completely be covered. Fantastic!
In India treatment can be as low as hundred rupees or even free (in specific cases). Indian Government hospitals are really cheap but can be hit or miss and are not advisable in life threatening situations. Indian Private hospitals are very good and also very expensive, atleast by Indian standards. Adding to the comment you read in that video India is a popular destination for "medical tourism", where people from different countries come to India to get treatment.
A video with your mother reacting sounds like a great idea. We do have a standing prescription charge if you're normally healthy and working. So, it doesn't matter what the drug is, you have the same charge. The difference is whether or not you're elderly, disabled, unemployed or on low income; then it's free prescription.
I assume you're talking about England. I'm not sure if the situation in Wales, but I'm pretty sure that Scotland and N.Ireland have no prescription fees for anyone.
In my medical college an ultrasound - 250₹ or 3 $ X ray - 125 ₹ or 1.5$ Ct scan - 2000₹ or 14$ Ecg - 300₹ or 4₹ Emergency - 20₹ or 30 cents Operation - free Pay only for medication
I'm in South East Asia, a 3rd world/developing country, whatever you call us. Got a heart attack, brought to the hospital by ambulance 40km from my home, emergency room 1 night, ccu 2 days 1 night, was on morphine for almost 2 days, ecg and what not, operation (angiogram) 2 blockages, farmacy, hospital care and everything else for a cardio patient. 6 days in, was charged just 40+ US dollars. Parking is free, and we don't have tolled road at my place. Oh ya, the hospital i was in is equipped with a decent cutting edge cardiology treatments.
Honestly kind of glad I am not living in USA but in little Denmark. My story in very short form. I fainted from what I thought was a bad panic attack as I had a history of that but turned out to be heart failure. To be on the safe side the ambulance took me to the emergency room, I would then spend spend 24 days in 3 different hospitals, with several ECG taken each day, three times in the MRI scanner, several ultrasonic scans, and I think about 5 x-ray pictures. And eventually getting the most advanced ICD/pacemaker available implanted, one with build in heart starter and a specialized box next to my bed that via the phone network sends my hearts data to the hospital every night so it can be monitored daily. Total cost to me? Zero, nothing at all. Not even the taxi ride home cost me anything as that was covered too. So do I mind the high taxes? No I really dont mind at all. Oh, and there are travel insurances one can buy if traveling outside of Denmark, they normally even tend to cost extra if going to the USA instead of pretty much anywhere else in the world. but I would for sure get one if I was ever going to the states...
US bill for C-section did not cover the whole costs. When the indian doctor said it costs 4 lakhs in high end hospital its final bill almost everything included. When we have a baby (fremont california) the complete bill came around 1,22,00 USD(Its normal delivery, we were there in hospital for 3 days, one day before and one day after). meals are provided only for mother. I have to pay my out of pocket costs for the year which is about 7,000 USD other that that everything is paid by insurance. Its outrageously costly in USA to have medical care without insurance.
I’ve seen many videos like this obviously not all medical. But things like no maternity pay. Hardly any sick pay. Hardly any paid vacations. I could go on The American people really do get a terrible deal on so many things
I broke my ankle on my way to work a couple years ago. Had to go to the UC, they had a look at it, rolled me around in a wheelchair, took an X-ray, prescribed some meds, gave me a consultation and an official paper for me to log with my employer for legal reasons. I didn't have to pay shit for any of it.
It's a great idea for your mom to react to bills overseas, try different parts of the world that has world class medical standards! Do 1 for UK, 1 for Europe, 2 for Asia etc!
This is very interesting. In the UK, I have had two heart operations all at zero cost at the point of delivery. Touching 80, I can no longer afford to visit my relatives in the USA as the health insurance cost for 2 weeks is twice the air fare. Thank God for the NHS. Ho, ho I'm still a tax payer so I am helping to fund it.
On the first one The first doctor said $4000 based on what very good Indian Private Hospitals would charge The number of around $3100 is somewhat in a medium ranged American hospital, I believe
Medical insurance is a Hugh cash cow for investors in hospital and pharmaceutical services, and medical insurance companies.Would be interesting to know how many members of the US government and their spouses have shares in health care services. Obviously no incentive to make any changes to offer a different health care system.
the last time i was in the hospital i had fallen down the stairs and broke a bone in my foot, my bill was £9 for a painkiller prescription. while everyone knows about the NHS the UK does have access to private medical care for those who can afford it. but even if i went to a private chiropractor for the initial consultation, an x-ray and six further sessions it would cost me less than £500
I had an open heard surgery (mitral valve reconstruction, no replacement) in Turkey at an privat hospital 2018. The universal insurance covered for the major part of the bill. After five days at the hospital i paid 2500 TL at that time it was 668 USD. Everything included. I had to pay that because it was a privat hospital, otherwise it would be for free. And i did not pay anything for my medications and the checks at the hospital EKG, EKO etc. afterwards till to day! I think i would be dead if i was in the US.
Thing to bear in mind is that American healthcare is done mostly via medical insurance companies. Companies are, by definition, responsible first to their shareholders. If they fail to siphon enough money off to their shareholders, it will be lawsuit time.
@@andrewwood8706 i know. I had stage 2 cancer my self 10 years ago, luckily i live in Denmark. I heard from an American that $2.5 mill is for cancer And it was not me kicing anyone on their last leg but the US healthcare. Was the bill about you or did you get offended for someone else noone here knows who is
Before paying a penny into the NHS i'd had 2 ambulance rides, 3 surgeries 1 resuscitation and 2 ER visits and spent 5 weeks in hospital! Since starting work I've had an additional 3 surgeries, multiple MRI, CT, ultrasound scans, X-rays, supplied life saving drugs for the last 30 years...all free at point of use! I've never had to pay for doctor visits and rarely had to pay for prescriptions (living in Scotland... prescriptions are free) I have paid between 20 and 25% of my wages in tax over the years and have always been happy, knowing that this was giving covering my education, health and retirement/social support in the case of unemployment/ ill health. It's a shame that the entire world sees health care as a basic human right except for the US where the health system has been replaced by a wealth system where the medical institution, pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies determine how much profit they can make from the poor schmucks paying for their services while simultaneously fleecing each other 🙄🥴😥😭
My Nephew with Special needs died in USA recently, they could not bury him the same day, had to wait 4 days, and the cost of burial with services was $14,000. The USA was once a good place, its not worth living there anymore.
Now for those of you, they don’t live in the US. There’s something to keep in mind here. These prices are not real prices. They kind of are, but in way they’re not so the insurance companies negotiate charges. The insurance companies never pay this amount ever they usually pay about 50% of the amount, so what happens is a hospital charge $500 for an ultrasound scan but they know they’re only gonna get half of that $250 so if they want $250 they have to charge the insurance company 500. It’s all done this way if you go in and say you wanna pay cash your bill will be lower Than what they actually charge the insurance company it’s ridiculous and makes no sense but that’s the way they do it
I am self employed and my Blue Cross Blue Shield of Alabama individual silver (lowest level) deductible is $7500 a year. Yes, SEVEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED.
I went to my doctor and had a EKG scan for 20 minutes, cost me $25. I went to the hospital and had a ultrasound on my back, i payed $30. Later i went to the same hospital, did mild surgery? It was just under the skin, took about 1.5 hours. I payed $30 for that to. On top of all that I got a sick note for 3 weeks as i could not work due to to the operation. So i stayed at home for 3 weeks, WITH sallery. On top of all that, if my medical bills for that year would passed $250, i would gotten a "free card", that means that everything is FREE after that within that year. I live in Norway btw. And im fucking glad i do... I dont get why people wanna live in the US at all, and i feel so bad for all of you having to live with this fucked up system. Anyways, i hope you have made a video with your mom, that would be very interesting to watch! (im gonna go check if you have done that now. 😛 )
When my mom gave birth to my younger brother she stayed at hospital for a long time as my brother had pneumonia. My mom had three c-sections as we are three siblings and she had a really hard time. She was admitted for a really long time and my brother was in nicu..after discharge the bill was almost nil as it was a government hospital and only payment for drugs were done..kudos to indian medical system ❤
In India cost depends on hospital facilities and how much luxurious the hospital is. Government hospital is mostly free. C section average cost in private hospital is 300-400$.
My older brother had to get brain surgery and paid $1.5 million in total for treatment. The big cost was having to fly in a neurospecialist and special scans that wouldn't disrupt the metal plate he has in his head.
How on earth are US hospitals going broke and have to reduce staff with this sort of billing practice? Another thing standing out to me: if you charge that much I would expect the bill to be much more precise and have every single procedure listed with the cost, every injection, x-rays in numbers, how many were taken etc. I am a veterinarian in Germany and we as a profession are obligated to write more detailed bills than that. By law! Also, the medical fee schedule for MDs, dentists and veterinarians specifically details how much you are allowed to bill for a procedure at most!! I just looked it up, and if I am not mistaken an abdominal CT-Scan (human) for example is about 315€ at most. Additional scans are lower than that. And it’s covered by insurance. I know why I am never moving to the US….
$3000 for a C-section in the US is cheap, the price also varies from State to State. My emergency C-section in Delaware cost $15,000 with a 3 night stay in hospital.
That’s why It’s a constant scare for NRIs when their old parents visit them in the US - you need to get a insurance for their entire stay and we don’t even know if those agencies really pay up when actually needed.
Thoughts? Stories? Your own experiences at the NHS or other universal healthcare where you live? 🏥🩺
Serious question here, is there "health insurance" for when you travel to the United States? I could not imagine wanting to step foot here and being terrified you'll get injured and end up in a hospital or emergency room.
You can get travel insurance which includes some healthcare coverage as well as repatriation to UK, but full healthcare coverage is pretty expensive as I recall. I've no idea what current prices are for that. Personally, I've spent over 6 months travelling the US in my life and never bought the additional health insurance however I did get LDW/CDW whenever I rented a vehicle, which was a personal assessment of likelihood of an adverse event.
Yes, you can obtain a travel policy which will include medical insurence. Many policies will cover between £5m to £10,000,000 of cover for the medical side of things. Dependant on age and any pre-existing medical issues many annual policies will cost about £100 or less.
I was considering visiting the US again but at my age now and having had a stroke 5 years ago which I recovered from, it is just not going to happen, instead I am going to head for Germany, Poland and Czech to do some sightseeing along with a trip to Ireland.
My home insurence includes a travel insurance that covers emergency care and if needed, medical flight back to Sweden.
Im sure you can get extra insurence, but Ive never done that when travelling in the US.
There's a very interesting Evan Edinger video where the NHS doctor tries to estimate how much those treatments would cost the taxpayer. Obviously all those things are thankfully free to the patient - but even the cost that the taxpayer is charged is way lower. There's no justification, even if they're looking to make a profit, for charging that much. ruclips.net/video/x0MBrfqwdEg/видео.html
I'm the Indian doctor in the video. Really liked your take on this. I've now been working in the NHS in the UK for the past year as an emergency doctor and started recently as a general surgeon and the system, although deeply flawed, provides a very big social safety net which I think every advanced economy should have. That being said, if I were a patient with adequate insurance, I would prefer getting treated either in the US or back home in India in a private hospital. NHS is underfunded and it is very difficult to access specialist care for elective things (things that won't kill you). But for life or limb threatening issues, NHS possibly provides the best care in the world. Comparing Indian, British and the American system - I would definitely prefer the Indian healthcare overall as a patient.
As someone from the UK, I think you are probably right. The NHS when correctly funded is amazing, but it was already underfunded prior to the pandemic. With that and the backlog it created, it desperately needs additional funding. I do hope the politicians get their act together to sort it out!
Hey Ajay appreciate it! Great and informative video as I still try to wrap my head around the costs (or lack thereof) in the UK and in this video, India which was a bonus for me to hear about and more enlightening. And congratulations on working for the NHS in the UK now! Good insight of how the NHS currently is when comparing the UK, India, and the US. Although the NHS seems excellent overall, I've been hearing through comments that there are it's issues and articles about the NHS being underfunded.
Overall, I greatly appreciate your honesty and transparency in the world of healthcare! In my family we have one pharmacist and two nurses, and one aspiring to become a doctor of some sort but many years out. Very interesting to listen to and wrap my head around the differences between our great countries.
I just want to say thank you to you for working in our NHS, it must be extremely stressful, we keep hearing on the news about all the problems with the system, but if it wasn't for the wonderful doctors and nurses there would be no system at all. Our government has failed to take care of the NHS for many years I hope they will listen to the public eventually and do something positive, we love our NHS and can't imagine not having it. Thank you, you are all wonderful people.
I'm a retired UK doctor and would agree with your comment, '... for life or limb threatening issues, the NHS possibly provides the best care in the world.' However, the system is currently creaking significantly when it comes to non-urgent (elective) aspects of care. The causes of this are multifactorial - the lasting impact of the pandemic, under-funding, shortages of healthcare professionals (this is a global issue affecting many medical and allied specialties), an ageing population and the need for people to embrace healthier lifestyles and take greater responsibility for their own health. The latter is also an issue affecting many westernised nations and healthcare systems.
Thank you to you and all your colleagues in the NHS. As someone with long term medical problems I am grateful every single day for the NHS and those people working in it, Thank You again sir, your service is very much appreciated.
I live in India. A few years ago I came off my motor bike and cut up my knee somewhat.
There was a private hospital, part of a well known chain, very close by, where I was attended to almost immediately, - doctor and two or three nurses. I think that cost me a couple of thousand rupees or so (maybe US$50 max). The doctor gave me a prescription, three items on it, and asked me to go to the in-house pharmacy. The pharmacist got me the stuff, and when I asked how much I owed him, he said "Twelve". Thinking "that's not bad" I started counting 1200 rupees (about $15). "No, no, no", he said, "twelve rupees". That's about 15 cents US.
Now how much would that little episode have cost me in the US?
Where do you live in India?
@H J Why not Gujarat?
@H J Hmm, I think every state has it's own list of good things and bad things but, in many aspects I will say Gujarat is one of the best states.
@H J who told you that?? Medicines are mainly made in Southern states.
Why is it outrageously more expensive in the us, is it some maffia scam?
Australia - my husband has 2nd degree burns on his feet. He was put into hospital, in the specialised burns unit. Has 2 skin graft operations, he was in hospital for 14days, he had after care come to the house, he had specialised boots made for him and the biggest cost I had was the road tolls and parking to visit him
Just reading the list of items your husband went through from the treatment to specialized/custom boots to recover would have cost a fortune here, not to mention being at the hospital for 14 days. Incredible. Wish your husband the best debkendall!
@@californianreacts Thankfully Australia has an amazing healthcare system, you should check it out. We have the public system which is provided by Medicare through taxes and it will not cost you a cent to go to a public hospital or for treatment, even in an Emergency, that's the last thing you should have to worry abuot in an Emergency is the cost. You can also elect to have private insurance where you can select your own Doctors for surgeries ect and a few more luxuries in the hospital itself but most people are more than happy with the public system. As someone with chronic health conditions who regularly visits a GP (General Practitioner) for free along with any visits to Emergency, its one less financial worry and stress to not have. As I'm a Disability Pensioner, I have a concession card so I also get my medications subsidised by the Government for $7.30 each script under the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS). Once I hit the yearly safety net for medications of $262.70 this year (which is usually June/July for me), my medications are free for the remainder of the calendar year. Non concession card holders (general pubic) the costs for medications is $30 and a safety net of $1563.50 for the calendar year. What really makes me laugh is that my specialist medications I get for my Arthritis which are covered by our Government only cost me $7.30 per script but can cost the Government up to $1500 or more. The funniest part is that that medication is made in the US and I'm very intrigued to find out how much that same medication is sold for there, certainly not what I'm paying or what my Government pays!! I can only imagine the cost!! Then as a concession card holder, I can also get free Pathology (I regularly get blood tests), scans such as Ultrasounds, CT's, and MRI's for free. I've also had 4 Major Back surgeries (only 38) and as I also have private Health Insurance, I get those little luxuries in the hospital (they have amazing food too, you get a daily newspaper and other little luxuries) and I get to choose my Surgeon or Doctor I like. All four of my surgeries ended up being around $15,000 each and yet cost me nothing to have them done through my Private Insurance, sorry, I did have to pay about $20 for pain medications that weren't covered by insurance and were full price due to going through my insurance company. If I went through the public system, I would maybe have had to go on a waiting list, although my last surgery was classed as urgent and it all would have been for free. My private health insurance was top level and was costing me around $4000 a year at the time of my last surgery 2.5 years ago. Also my insurance covered all my Physiotherapy sessions following each surgery. If I had to live in the US, I don't know how I would survive!! I really don't know how those with chronic conditions can live!! Healthcare is a basic right, not something that you should have to choose between. The US just seems so far behind many other countries, not just in Healthcare, even some third world countries have better healthcare than the US!!
Yeah, but the parking is $15,073 per half hour
@@glennmartin6492 😆 $AUD 600 parking & tolls for 2 weeks otherwise I would of put him on the train
Had me rofl even though I know its not a joke
12:55 “Did they give this man the MRI machine?” 😂😂
😂😂😂
"Gold plated" though
People in the uk complain about the NHS but I was hospitalised for a week and walked out not worried about loosing my home. Health care is not a business and is regulated in Britain. As a nurse I struggle to understand how anyone can survive illness in the USA. 😢
they often don't. People get sick, don't go to the doctor, get sicker, miss work, get fired, can't afford anything, die of severe case of pneumonia. Documented case that was in the papers
@@bytemeah I also got sick pay until I retired due to ill health
@@jedrick001
Good for you.
Many aren't that fortunate.
i went into the nhs with a broken leg, got treated for appendicitis instead, and spent6 months in the hospital on the waiting list for a transplant (nhs literally caused me to have a severe heart attack) at my height its not good that my heart gave out (7'7") and as a result i now technically have 2 hearts due to my oversized heart, it may have all been free, but if they treated my broken leg, i wouldnt be sitting here with a donor heart in my chest, id be my old self with no other issues
@@bigfrankfraser1391
Yeah, i highly doubt that. They might sometimes undertreat you if you’re not persistent enough but they won‘t give you a friggin donor organ for no reason.
Also, just to emphasize, here the Indian doctor is talking only about the cost estimates of the best private sector hospitals in India, but in government hospitals, we have superspeciality treatment of patients fully free or at a very very low cost that anybody can easily afford in India.
Yeah! I'm soooo glad to have govt hospitals here in India! Good that I don't live in USA!
Just wanna ask how is govt hospital@prisha1050
I've seen other videos where Americans are asked what they think about "socialist healthcare" and a common answer is "Why should I pay for someone else's healthcare", but if they have insurence they're already paying for someone else's healthcare. Many Americans' health insurance is paid by their employer if they have good jobs, but if the employer didn't pay the insurence they could pay the employee more which would more than cover any extra taxes they would have to pay for 'socialist healthcare'.
It's just ineffective socialist healthcare and it's worse just giving your money to one insurance company.
Hospitals don't honestly think uninsured patients have an extra $2.5M lying around. If they had that much money they would more than likely have insurance afterall. What they expect is some patients will come in with better insurance that covers more. So if you go in and your insurance covers say $100k that's not the cost to the hospital. That's your cost and maybe the next two patients who aren't going to pay. Maybe a hospital will get some money out of you but more than likely will sell patient debt to debt collectors. Even if a patient fully pays off their debt that's going to their debt collectors, possible multiple debt collectors buying and selling their debt, the hospital is getting almost nothing compared to what patients pay.
End result everyone pays down a fraction of the collective costs of a hospital or socialized medicine. Except because capitalism it's very expensive and ineffective since you need to cover profit, lobbying and layers of bureaucracy including billing. Which would be bad enough but of course you aren't paying for healthcare, your insurance probably covers in network with a limit to how much you get a year. So your insurance may not cover an emergency situation you need it for but will be covering for sometime who can't pay their bill. No idea how it could possibly be worse.
@@cupguin.
Plus, about 30% of each bill is just for the administration.
My gosh, american civilisation is so morally bankrupt. "Why should you pay for someone else healthcare ?" you ask ? Is it a serious question ? I don't know maybe because he's a human just like you and you are capable of solidarity ? Maybe when you're dealing with seriously bad decease it's better to at least be released of financial issue. And maybe when it's your turn to have a bad decease you will be happy to get solidarity from others.
@@Kafei01 right? It's like morality of the situation flies right over people head
@@cupguin It's very weird and fasinating how US healthcare systems charge such exorbant amounts which is just unjustified...
Even though the NHS has inefficiencies, its much better than selling your home to fix a fracture...
Here in India, even though their wasn't any kind of organised way in the health sector, somehow many hospitals sprang up independently... The govt. hospitals ain't great and does receives free appointements and surgeries for only low income groups, and many of the hospitals lack facilities... Whereas private hospitals were established by religious institutions and other society oriented groups mostly, with many of them having world class facilites (though they r costly for a middle class Indian but you won't lose your home), these institutions without any prior arrangement had some sort of a self regulation in terms of cost since they were less profit oriented. This also pushed other profit oriented hospitals as well to reduce their price or they wouldn't survive in a free market. It worked out well enough, but many ( like Millions ) of them still can't access these facilities...
“Illness is neither an indulgence for which people have to pay, nor an offence for which they should be penalised, but a misfortune, the cost of which should be shared by the community.”
Nye bevan Founder of the NHS.
Beautiful!
Brings tears to eyes
I like the way that at the start they are saying "oh that will cost $800 or $2,000" and by the end they are guessing hundreds of thousands because their expectations have changed.
And they are saying something they know will be expensive since it's the US and they are still way low on their guesses. Imagine guessing, in your mind, an outrageous amount and then BAM! x5-x10 the amount you guessed is the true cost. Crazy.
@@californianreacts The US system works very well if you are healthy and rich.
@@paulmidsussex3409 lol
Yep Glad to be Indian, we probably have cheapest meds and great doctors. We can get specialist at times at walk in. Digitisation is also helpful.
India is great for upper middle class honestly ..
@@valley-girl "Middle class". Indians throw that word around A LOT when the actual bracket is very very small in India.
Most indians who think they are upper middle class are just middle class and yes, it's great for them.
@@HemantKumar-id3jgsmall bracket by population but huge bracket by income range. Starting from 3 lakh per year to 60 lakhs.
@@valley-girlnope, in India there is system called ayushman card for poor and lower middle class people.
@@HemantKumar-id3jgnope majority of Indians falls under lower middle class. Not middle class!!😂😂
For me, the US system is not "Health Care", it's "Illness Monetization".
I live in Austria, Europa. My highest medical bill so far was around 120 €. For 10 days of my wife or me being with our son in a separate room to cure an illness that had affected his nerve system. We both got three free meals per day and as much tea, coffe or sirup as we wanted.
your free healthcare isn't free... you pay for it with your high taxes.....
@@Mr_Weast_FM So you are saying that the US is free of taxes?
@@GYXNEShe didn't think that far through his argument
@@Mr_Weast_FMplease reply
@@Mr_Weast_FMtry harder, kid
You should read about "Medical tourism in India" , its a growing sector in India. I have seen videos on youtube where people have shared their experiences of treatment in India and I believe medical tourism will grow in the coming years.
PS : Would love to see your mom guess Pharmacy expenses across different countries.
This is where India can hit gold.
@@thusspokezarathustra1847hm ☺️🙂😊❤️🤗🇮🇳🥰
Poor people who cannot afford treatment in their home countries go to India to get piss poor medical treatment. A sad state of affairs if you ask me.
@@alileevil lol Indian doctors are the best at doing their job in the world. It's the system ( management and infrastructure that holds it back) but universal healthcare is affordable and accessible to all.
@@BinodiniMahapatra-pz7vv Having experienced doctors both in India and abroad, Indian doctors are woefully behind when it comes to accurate diagnosis and surgical skill. Granted some are very knowledgeable as they see a wide variety of cases, but when they come across a case they haven't dealt with before, they cannot connect the dots, but rather go on with their conventional practice. I was suffering from restless leg syndrome and went to one of the best vascular doctor in the city. All he did was perform a normal Doppler scan which revealed nothing. Later on while researching the topic myself, I found that my seating position and posture was giving me problems. The doctor didn't even consider this during the diagnosis!
My brother was treated for drug resistant TB for ELEVEN YEARS !!! Not only did he not pay a penny for the treatment, but he got the best treatment that money could have bought !!!! Long live the NHS ...
Send it victories happy and glorious long to heal over us god save the NHS
Jesus that's long...and I might also have that 🥲
Currently hospitalized for a similar reason. Hopefully mine gets resolved soon.
@@UMIunited it is treatable, be happy don't worry don't lose hope
Perseverance is the key.
Fight hard and fight strong.
You will live and you will live long, uraaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
TB is the enemy, you have to fight to destroy it .
your free healthcare isn't free... you pay for it with your high taxes.....
@@Mr_Weast_FM They're not that high, really. Over a certain amount of wages (£1,250 standard) you get charged a percentage in tax. Any wages under that, you don't pay tax, or if you're on benefits/not working.
Sure it's not free, but the alternative isn't worth thinking about.
For example: I have asthma, which I have had since I was 7. As a kid, I never paid for my inhalers, up until i started working.
I pay £9.50 for an inhaler, (I buy 2 inhalers, so £19) every 3 months. In America, that would be $600 for an inhaler, $1,200 for 2... Almost a full months wage.
The greatest thing the Devil did was convince man he doesn't exist, but even HE is impressed by the pharmaceutical companies convincing the average American that socialist healthcare is bad. 😅
man these bills are soo crazy,, From India here, My dad had a heart attack back in 2011 and we rushed him in the emergency room in a Private Hospital, it is one of the best private hospitals here. total cost was around 250,000 rupees(total stay of 9 days), around 4500 of that time and 3000 according to todays exchange rate, i am just horrified to think how much it would have cost if we were inn the US.
My last baby was born via an emergency c/section in a private hospital in Australia, with two obstetricians in attendance. My 9-year-old daughter watched her newborn sister's first breastfeed in the recovery area of the operating theatre (with a midwife escort) before she helped to bathe her sister. The midwives gave my husband and daughter their evening meal as they because too busy to take a meal break due to my c/section! My daughter slept the first night on a fold up bed in my room. My husband slept on a sofa bed and the baby slept with me! It certainly wasn't the usual series of events. Three of our children had died from a genetic disease, (the eldest was 6 years old.) I wanted to have quality family time before we had to share the baby. The obstetricians, the private hospital, the midwives and all the staff made it exceptionally memorable, and it was all at no cost to us!
Is it because of insurance or Healthcare is free there?
@@YASH-cz6ir Free healthcare. It's paid by taxes (as it should)
I am Sorry for your children's 😢
+1 for Aus Healthcare system 😊
My kids heart surgery in India cost me around 15000 dollars. After insurance paid some $ 3000. Thats it.
Send him to singapore
I had a problem last year that was difficult to diagnose.
I had 5 face to face consultations.
6 ECG scans
1 MRI scan
1 Ultrasound scan
1 breathing capacity test
1 X-ray
1 CAT scan
Turned out it was a side effect from doubling the dose of a medication.
Changed to a different medication and problem solved.
I live in the UK. Total bill received from the NHS? .... Zero 😁
I'm retired, so don't pay for prescriptions.
you didn't get the partridge in a pear tree? Disgraceful! :-)
to think i just went AnE for feeling ill had 2 ECGs and a X-ray and blood taken to just be told i have Covid and if that was in the States i would of been walking out with a bill over $20,000 is actually insane to think about.
India has a special medical visa now , so the private jet thing is an actual reality here
It's quite simple, the US Healthcare system is run for profit, so many corporations and individuals are profiting from the US system that you have in the US a powerful and rich lobby that doesn't want any changes to the system, they don't care about people either dying or going bankrupt because of the system as long as they can fill their pockets with millions of dollars.
And if you're insured, they'd charge the insurance company 1/4 of that... which is still outrageous, but if you're not the insurance company you're just fleeced.
Not to mention that when the general American public are asked if they’d have an NHS style healthcare, they always say no and that it’s communism/socialism. They don’t want to help other people “why should I pay for others”, so they cut their nose off to spite their face. Weird people.
Had a preventative healthcare check up sometime back in a very good private hospital in India. Paid half of the cost as insurance covered half. The checkup included around 80+ blood tests, eye checkup, ultrasound, mammogram, Pap smear, ECG, TMT test, 3 doctor consultations and more. I paid $125. They provided good breakfast and lunch as well 😊
Sounds great, Ruchi! There's a lot in that checkup plus the added bonus of a good breakfast. I don't want to know what they serve for breakfast here in the US.
@@californianreacts It was a typical Indian breakfast - Dosa, Idly, Vada. But the great thing was we got to know that my mother's arteries are partially blocked due to this checkup. Early intervention with medicines has greatly lessened the chance of an emergency medical procedure in the future, which could have been quite risky and costly at the same time. People underestimate the benefits of preventive care I think.
Can you recommend any health insurance?
I’m Swedish. I’ve been on sick leave (paid) since May and it’ll end in February, I had a spina fusion surgery performed on me at a private hospital in October and I stayed there for three nights recovering, it cost me 20 dollars…
Doesn't sound like private hospital. Did your employer pay most of it.
@@frozencrow8735 No, tax paid. If a public hospital can’t provide care within a set time limit you can choose among private options, they usually have shorter waiting lists.
@@petragrevstad2714 oh I see.
I live in Germany. Last year, I was in hospital for almost 5 months.
I'll sum up some of the treatments:
90 km Ambulance ride to a specialized Clinic together with a Doctor in a second car behind us
around 200 transfusions combined (full blood & white cells only)
6 X-rays, 2 MRIs, 4 Bone Marrow Biopsies, 4 lung functions, 4 ultrasounds, and some other stuff
A Bone Marrow Transplantation
Because I'm not allowed to drive on my own or use public transportation at the moment.
My health insurance pays for a taxi every 2 weeks I need to have my blood testing done in a hospital which is 90 km away from my home.
(that's 180 km in total - around €450)
I don't have to pay for any medication or visits to any doctor and such.
Usually, we need to pay €5 for medicine that costs up to €900 and €10 when the package costs more than €900.
But we can get around that by paying 2% of our annual income to the health insurance-- only 1% if it's a chronic disease (my case)
Because I paid my share (1% of annual income/Year) upfront, I had not a single bill for all of that.
And I will never get a bill.
Everything I need is covered by my health insurance and my 1% share.
And I would bet your insurance paid less for that than that one week treatment in the video ... thanks to our gouvernment regulated healthcare prices in germany 🙂
@@praiodansmagicbox4094 For sure. Although, it's still expensive. One bone marrow biopsy is around €2k -- don't know about the rest. My most expensive medication is €11200 for a pack of 50.
@@praiodansmagicbox4094 Ambnulance rides aren't exactly cheap here either but you don't have to pay out of your own pocket. I needed one 2 years ago including a doctor (makes it a little more expensive because ambulances by default only come with 2 medics and if needed a doctor / notarzt will be send seperatly). The bill stated 3300€ and i had to pay 10€ of that by myself. So yeah the true cost for my health insurance is a lot higher but I don't have to pay it which is nice.
It's called extortion, greed, avarice. Totally immoral. Doctors and hospital bosses in the U.S. must live in huge mansions and drive around in gold-plated Rolls-Royces. Their spouses must own at least 3 Bugatti's each. Unbelievable. American health "care" needs reforming desperately.
Hospital management earns that money not Doctors necessarily as doctors also pay a part of their consultation fee to the Hospital
That's not a charge for a service. It's a ransom demand for your health/life. 😳
I was ill at the start of December. After a few days I went to A&E on the advice of my BiL, a retired consultant. I was given treatment for the immediate problem and then antibiotics for an infection I picked up. Overall I was in hospital for 8 nights, Total cost £8 for the taxi to A&E - the NHS paid for the taxi back home. That includes a refill for most of my regular prescriptions (diabetes, high blood preasure).
Less than a week later I blacked out when driving and hit a parked car. An ambulance took me to hospital, after checking I hadn't broken anything and giving me an ECG. A CT scan found I had a small subdural haematoma, The A&E doctor consulted a neurologist and they decided it did not need operating on, but they kept me in for 48 hours observation. This time my sister picked me up and I stayed with her over Christmas.
I am very glad I don't live in the USA,
I've told this story in a comment on another creator's page but I think it fits here too. I was in the USA as a skill-swap exchange showing how we do archaeology in the UK compared to the US. It was April 2011 and it was going okay, I was frustrated because every shovel of dirt had to be sifted and the weather was giving me a gut feeling it wasn't going to go well.
Thankfully my genuine, spine tingling panic was taken seriously and we went back to the farm where we were staying. The farmer was loading stuff into the cellar already, having had the same feeling I did. We kept the doors open for fresh air until the tornado sirens went off.
The tornado passed very very close to the house and it was more than terrifying. I had students with me that were clinging onto me and my husband for dear life, I still have the scars on my upper arm where one girl gripped so hard her nails dug in deep. We weren't a direct hit, thank God, but it was too close for comfort. We couldn't leave even as the big one passed because so many were touching down in Northern Alabama.
As the panic died down the USA team were discussing the number of Go Fund Me requests that would go out and if the people hit were going to choose between paying the medical bills or rebuild the house. It was a normal, everyday conversation about how it being April they personally would choose to pay off the bills and rebuild with whatever they had to get both costs down at the same time.
I felt nauseated listening to them, mainly as it was so normal sounding, like deciding whether to get takeaway or get groceries... And I was sitting there thinking about the £200 per person group travel insurance would cover anything we would need in terms of care, and it broke my heart. When we got the all clear we emerged into sheer devastation. It reminded me of the pictures of London during the Blitz just with more dead animals and a Ford Pick-up smashed front first into the ground. As much as we wanted to get out of there and back to the UK we couldn't because the warnings kept coming over and over.
I cried not because of the tornado, I cried thinking of the way two people living in the richest country on Earth, which could realistically fund free at the point of use medical programs in every country in the world if they halved defence spending, were blasé about the choice of medical care or a secure and watertight home. That should never be normal for anyone, anywhere.
We left three days later and when I was invited back I gave one of the most resounding 'no's' of my life and let my colleagues think it was the fear of more tornadoes when it was actually some level of disgust that anyone should have to make those choices, but not at the people, it was at the systems.
I work in ultrasound in the NHS. The cost to the NHS of, for example, a 20 minute abdominal scan, including the salaries of the sonographer and HCAs, etc. and bearing in mind the cost and maintenance of machinery and premises (these vary from site to site depending on size - economies of scale and all that) should be no more that about £30-£35. A scan in a reputable private facility, where the practitioners a paid more and the provider wants to make as big a profit as they think they can get away with, would be £200-£300.
Appreciate the insight on this Tony! So much different here. Not sure what the price would be here after insurance picks up the cost but I'm assuming multiply that £200-£300 by quite a few times.
As a working Imaging Radio-Technologist in Government hospital in india, I can say that the cost in india would be a lot affordable for medical treatments (combining all the services like ER, X-ray, CT scan, MRI scan, ECG, USG, Surgical procedure, ICU, Pharmacy, etc.). It would cost around 10-100$ for everything, includes Cancer treatments too. And if you have government approved cards which can be created for free of cost you will get everything done for free.
Seeing this medical Bills made my head feel dizzy 🥴. I mean do they operate and do surgeries with Gold and diamond equipments or what?? 😂. It's ridiculous bro.
My relative in US who emigrated about 10 years ago. I won't disclose why but they had to call 911 and the ride on the ambulance to the emergency room ( about 5-7 mins) cost them 1000 dollars. Not kidding. They didn't give them anything. Just the ride.
@@motabillakabaap 😳🤯🤯 seriously!!!, Even the ambulance charging that much, that's clearly just rip off 😣🤦
US has dignity of labour ! For a normal technician they have to pay thousands of dollars ! That and insurance/corporate companies lobby !
@@ck3289 no that's not true the companies are having too much profit
Here in italy when we buy prescription medicine there are usually two kinds (i'm keeping this simple): the original product made from the original producer, and generic versions that are made by everyone else when the patent expires and the recipe becomes public domain.
A common medicine pack when original usually costs from 10 to 20 euros and that is often considered very expensive.
the generics usually cost around 2 euros.
All i've written is an oversemplification but i hope anyone who reads it finds it interesting.
Oversimplify away, gets the information across well and easy to compare to the prices here in the US to those in Italy. I did find it interesting, always do in how little prices are anywhere else outside of the US it seems.
Also, love Italy, have traveled there a few times now from Rome, Florence, Pisa, Naples, and sailed by Stromboli a few weeks before it erupted a few years back. Absolutely beautiful country! Helps that I enjoy history and wine.
@@californianreacts Glad you enjoyed! may i suggest that, if you have a chance, you also visit the Lago di Garda (lake of Garda) and pther regions in the Alpes? I myself am from Lombardy with half of my family from the Pianura Padana (the plains basically) and half from valleys in the Alpes.
Yes, I think it's the same in just about every EU country, and other developed nations. One problem in the US is the ubiquitous pharmaceutical advertisements, urging people to ask their doctor for specific brands, even though generic versions are identical, and much more affordable. Huge profits always take priority over the patient's health. And the legal bribery of politicians by pharmaceutical and medical insurance companies guarantees that no government will ever introduce universal health-care. Instead they'll just keep on indoctrinating ordinary people to vote against their own best interests. It’s's absolutely disgusting.
@@rua5818 as an outsider when i see or hear about that and other things in the US, it becomes the scariest country on Earth, but i realize it is in part because i don't undertand the US not having ever lived there
Here in South Africa the same applies for medication... Originals, clones and generics are available
Thank god Medical bills are very cheaper in our place. I had surgery recently and its cost was around 1300$ including recovery in multi speciality hospital in Banglore.
It's unbelievable to me that people still live in the Untied States of America ✌️
it is incredibile that preople want to move to the USA.
They are brought up to believe US is the greatest country in the world and nowhere it is better.
It is incredible that the US citizens do not know that they are only "slaves" for theire economical mafia.
@@kratzikatz1 They are proud of it :-)
@lorenzos.5896 yes, but you're welcome to take them. I view just existing in the US as an extremesport. So cudos to all 400mill of yall. But pls get out before work kills you and and no health benefits kills you.
As an Aussie I recently spent 7 weeks in a public hospital I had 3 sets of X-rays over this period 2 injections every day 4 prescription medications daily and was attended by a team of 11 resident doctors and specialists in three different fields and underwent a catscan and an electrocardiogram , I was brought to the hospital in an ambulance and sent home in a taxi with a walker a shower seat and a commode total cost ZERO . I'm now on 7 medications daily for the rest of my life (around $6 per perception every 3 months ) with visits from my GP the district nurse and a pathologist for blood work every 6 months all free with the exception of my meds . I am a pensioner but because my doctor bulk bills I haven't paid for anything other than prescriptions for over 20 yrs .our system isn't exactly free of course we pay a tax levy even pensioners , but we are given tax incentives , to encourage us to take out private health insurance , which is still miles in front of anything the USA has to offer .
your free healthcare isn't free... you pay for it with your high taxes.....
@@Mr_Weast_FM you payed it too in USA thru taxes but money obviously don't go for patients care then to wealthy pharmacy or for hospital stuff and so on
In the UK everything is 'free' in hospital. In England you pay a set fee for prescriptions of £9.35 per item regardless of what it is. There is no charge for non working, kids, pregnant ladies or pensioners.
Yes you can get travel insurance for travelling to the US. You can get worldwide travel insurance fairly cheap but it doubles if you are visiting the US!
Can I just correct you on I very minor point, you get free prescriptions over 60, retirement is 66.
@@orwellboy1958 yes but i think they're trying to raise it to pension age 🙄
@@orwellboy1958 It is always free in Scotland and it might be in Wales and N. Ireland as well. In England 60% of prescriptions are not paid for because sick people are more likely to be in the groups that qualify for free prescriptions.
Plus if you have certain conditions where you HAVE to take medication to save you from life-threatening outcomes you are exempt from prescription charges on EVERYTHING.
In Germany you also 5€ for every perscription so when your go to the pharmacy and want some i don't know simple stuff also, that's more expensive then the big medicine you got from the doctor xD but then also when it's stuff you are chronical it's mostly free. So the two medicals i need always fit my heart and stomach are free
In July of last year I admitted myself to hospital in the UK having suddenly lost about 90% of the function of my left arm. I underwent CT scans, MRI scans and blood tests to reveal I had suffered an acute double stroke. I stayed in hospital for 4 days undergoing monitoring and physio. I was prescribed 5 separate medications. Upon discharge I underwent a six month programme of home visit physiotherapy, exercise and monitoring. I have had heart scans, heart monitoring for 24 hours, blood tests. My care has been exceptional and I have now made a full recovery. Add to that continued dependence on the five medications and all for the grand total cost of £30.00 ($40.00) which was paid to the taxi drivers who took me to and from my initial hospital visit. I pay about 10% of my salary in National Insurance which pays for the NHS. I am so thankful to be British!
Absolutely disgusting I have no idea why the public allows this
Because socialism is evil and there political parties drum it into the people
because americans think being taxed a small amount for everyone’s health is the government trying to kill them all LOL
They support capitalism 😂 🧠🏌♂️
They are brainwashed that anything else is socialism or communism.
They have been the subject of decades of lies by politicians who are paid for by the medical industry - they believe that they have the "Best" medical system. Ignorance is bliss i guess.
Hi there.
I'm from Argentina. In 1991, we went to the U.S.A. (Pomona, California) and we lived there for 5 years.
One day, few months after settling there, my Dad was working on the engine of our pick up truck, and the battery exploded. One part of the battery hit him in the chin and knocked him unconscious. Also, some grime and crap from the battery (which was almost empty) ended up in his eyes, nose and mouth. Our neighbours called 911 and after like 10 minutes we had a firetruck, an ambulance and two cop cars in front of the house we were living in. In those 10 minutes my Dad was up by himself, talking and cleaning himself in the bathroom so when the help arrived most of that grime was washed away by him and he even cleansed his chin wound and used superglue to close it, as many people do here in my country (we're talking about little flesh wounds here, like a couple of centimeters long).
Aaaanyways... after a couple of hours in the hospital where they used saline solution to wash his eyes and nose, and a couple of stitches to the wound, he was discharged and came home.
A week later we went to collect the mail from the mailbox and there was an envelope from the hospital he was treated in. My Mom opened it and when she read it she almost fainted!! The hospital was charging us almost $1300 for their services! Coming from Argentina where that treatment would've been TOTALLY FREE of charge, and taking into account the fact that we were living on a pretty tight budget back then, it was a blow that almost put an end to our staying in the U.S.A. Our family there helped us out, thankfully.
Untill this day, more than three decades later, I still can not understand your health system which seems so shockingly unfair, almost tyrannical.
UK: hey you came by bus? make sure you go collect a refund for it before you leave
US: oh you walked through the door? yea that's 3k
Lactation Consultancy is a frivolous concept in India since we have our elderly living with us, so mother-in-law assisting in raising the child has a profound impact of Indian culture
Hi. I've watched a few of this type of presentation about US healthcare charges and was shocked.
This literally had me watching with my mouth wide open. It really is not acceptable in a modern country like the US. It is no less than disgusting.
You keep well pal.
One said "America is a part of the western world, but it's not a civilized one"
I always appreciate the hospitals , doctors and nurses in India but this gave me diffrent perspective that how good of a place we are at in medical care , if i get a flu i go to a doctor without even thinking twice cause i know it's gonna cost me a day worth of food money at max, I don't know how people survive in US
It's not just about the cost. It's also about the time- what they've not covered here is the time to consult for non emergency services. Imagine having to wait for 3-4 months for your gall stone surgery. In India, you get it in 1-2 days as soon as initial evaluation is done.
500000 don't survive yearly and many don't go to doctors or they go over in Mexico where is cheaper to pay
Not sure why you would go to the doctor for influenza. Not like they can do anything for you.
Even at the Vets here in the UK my dog had an ultrasound scan and X-ray and it was still under £300.
If I lived in America I think I’d try and register with a vet!
My brothers dog just yesterday had surgery after getting into the trash and eating everything in there. After surgery my brother owes the vet $18,000. I wish I were joking. No insurance for pets although some vets offer it.
@@californianreacts wow you are really getting robbed blind in the states even for animals!!
@@californianreacts Jeez. We have dog insurance so the £300 bill came out as £99 excess we paid plus 20% or total so we got around half paid back through the insurance within 3 days. Plus a follow up visit of around £250 + pills £75 we only had to cover 20% of the total with the excess already covered as it's part of the same claim. No forms to fill out either it's all done via the Pawtel network by the vets. For a years insurance it's is £107.
My cat recently had to have surgery to remove her spleen. Including X-rays, drugs, operation costs, lab costs etc. it came to just over £2100 and this also included two follow up visits. I only had a basic insurance for her but I was able to claim back £1500.
Whats really sick is they are totally right about the jet. You will pay anything from $30.000 to $50.000 to charter a plane + crew to fly from London to New York city. So yes the poor person that payed over 300k would have been a hell of a lot better off if his family got him a private jet to fly him to the UK where he would have then been treated. I dare say he also would have also gotten much better treatment, the adverage British person lives 3 years more than the adverage American, much of that has todo with the quality of healthcare. Also there is a 50% higher chance as a mother that your new baby will die in the USA than UK, again because the quality of care in the US.
I only saw a couple of episodes of 'House MD' but did they ever show the patient being presented with the bill after days of diagnostics and treatment and dying from shock?
If they did it would be half of every episode.
In india c section in a standard middle class private hospital would cost 30k Indian rupee nearly 350$ , in government hospital that would be free by government policies this includes all medicine operation diagnosis etc so you can compare difference in bills
Over ten years.2 ambulance, 3monthly mri scans, Two brain surgeries, a few ct scans. Couple of short notice emergency ct scans, over the course of Ten years + meds, 30 days of chemotherapy, about 8 days on a ward. This is all just related to my brain tumour. Before my tumour i had a few unrelated surgeries from grommets as kid to a couple of others as an adult. Oh nearly forgot the month of physiotherapy. Now i dropped down to ongoing six monthly scan.
Now what have been invoiced/ had to pay, debt accrued
£0.00 zilch, nowt, none,nothing.
A Canadian here and just came across this video.
Three years ago, I had a heart attack leading to quintuple bypass surgery. Two week stay in hospital and a year of monthly visits to doctors. Now still have six month and yearly contacts with doctors for check-ups. Medications for the past three years.
My total cost for the entire thing...ZERO!!!
Glad to be living in Canada!!!
American population control: If the trauma of whatever ailes you doesn't finish you off, the heart attack induced by your medical bill will.
I work at European hospital...the amount of American healthcare tourism we get has been increasing more and more when they realize they can fly over, enjoy modern healthcare, spend week or two in a good hotel before flying back and still be able to afford sports car or two to make up for the difference.
Where do you live then? And is it really that easy for a foreigner to get healthcare in Europe?
I was in the hospital here in Denmark when I was 18 with heart complications. Over 2 days, I had EKG's taken every 6 hours, medication to line out the complications, scans and blood tests, food and nurses and doctors. I got out with a $120 bill for the meds i had to take home. That was it. This is absolutely insane!
Heart complications and so young. May god keep you well and alive.
3 days ago I went to hospital at 3pm with abdominal pain, had blood screenings,a consultation and a CT scan before midnight and was put on a drip of mixed antibiotics after reaching a conclusion of diverticulitis. They kept me overnight to monitor (my only complaint being that it's impossible to sleep on an active ward lol) and let me go the following afternoon after feeding me and giving a week's worth of mixed tablets. £0 and am feeling better already. We cannot let the NHS become privatised.
Astonishingly good video and reaction. crazy costs in the US. My wife works in a UK pharmacy , she could tell you medicine costs in the UK if you want to do a comparison with you mothers figures. great reaction, your level headed approach is spot on. Well done.
Appreciate it, Bobmeanstreak! I do my best to give honest opinions and the general thoughts of other Americans on topics to hopefully give you a feel for how it truly is here in the US. I might have to take you up on that for medicine costs and have my mother give me some common costs for medicine compared to those in the UK/NHS.
@@californianreacts Your sale sets you apart. Many reactors steam and ho;;er their way through, but considered opinions count for much more..., I f you want to get some medicines, defined by type, strength and quantity and I'll see what price a pharmacy here would pay for them. Keep safe, have a good day.
That should say style!! Autocorrect!!!
In New Zealand and have ANCA vasculitis. When I was first diagnosed with heart, kidney and lung damage I spent about 11 weeks in two hospitals, one where I had dialysis and chemotherapy, one where I had a heart valve replacement and we did all that with an estimated 15% chance I'd get through. There were cat scans at the time and follow ups including endoscopy and weekly blood tests. All of that was free. Most prescriptions are $5 each, and I've gone down from fourteen to six a day, with a maximum of $100 per financial year. I am almost at year 4 and am very grateful to live in New Zealand. We spent generations building up our health care system.
My uncle lived in the USA for a long time, and he broke his ankle, this was in the late 60s or early 70's, he told them just put a cast on to keep his foot stabil, it cost 1000 dollars, then he got on a plane and had the OP in England free the flight was a lot less than the OP in the USA he saved around 10000. Before I forget a close friend who worked for Airbus had suddenly heart problems and had to have open heart surgery, he would have liked to fly back but they said it's too dangerous, lucky for my friend AIRBUS payed for everything, I don't know what the end bill was but I would think around 250 k, know he is a grandad to 11 kids who were all delivered at NO COST here in Germany. well you pay your insurance but thats it.
Incredible, and smart for your uncle to travel back. I've heard of stories (someone I knew from Russia back in college) who would travel back to Russia to have dental work done, and others from Mexico to get medicine, dental work, and so on for a fraction of the price. Happy to hear Germany has a great medical system in place to take care of their citizens. Crazy concept, right? 😢
@@californianreacts Oh Germany has similar issues like the NHS. You don't lose life or limbs, but the system is in constant triage mode to reduce costs and you might wait for non essential specialists for months. You still get emergency surgery even on the same day if you need it … well, at least before COVID.
So it's certainly not perfect, but it seems a reasonable compromise for the most part. And if the US system would be just more expensive, but better you could call it reasonable too, but it's worse while still costing more.
NHS is good but for electives , u have to wait for 2-3 months minimum , even in US ( especially for mental health) The wait itself will lead to disease progression in many cases ! India has great access and any patient will be seen in a day itself
I've heard about these issues about wait times and know about delays here in the US. Do you know what average wait times are in India?
@@californianreacts
1 day to 1 week.
A few years ago an English woman on holiday in the US had a heart scare ,spent a week in hospital and was then presented with a bill for 1/2 million dollars . Her travel insurance company went ballistic and refused to pay it . After a lot of negotiation between the hospital and the insurance company the the bill was reduced and the insurance company coughed up .I don't know the final figure that was settled on . 🇬🇧
A friend of mine living in Seattle needed an MRI and was told it would cost $5k+ . He decided to visit his family in Ireland with his wife & 2 children and have the MRI while visiting and it was still cheaper than having the MRI in Seattle .
Well…she is back in UK. What can they do to her? Ask UK government to sent the poor lady to America for Jail time?
Number 1 tip for Americans in need of surgery, dental work or eye surgery:
1)look up european hospitals and contact asking about prices for a surgery.
2)Book a flight and a 1 month vacation to that country.
3)Get everything done for 1/10th the price, while enjoying a vacation hiking through the mountains, visiting old towns and castles, or sunbathing at the beach.
4)Realize how fucked up the US can be and how badly it treats its citizens.
5)Move to another country, where you earn 1/4th of your US salary, but no longer have to pay health insurance, school, no more mass shootings (Italy has had like 2 in the last 30 years), no more open container absurd laws (you can literally be drinking wine in front of the cops as long as breathalyzer is under the limit), less aggressive police (where else would the cops make you sit in the back of the car, uncuffed and with no partitioning), less strict laws (you will get house arrest for most non-violent crimes as first offender), easy taxes (they're all included in the price you see on display, and your taxes from working are automatically taken from each paycheck and are mostly paid by your employer), by law you get at least a month of paid vacation a year, you don't need health insurance since the state covers everyone through taxes (unless you want fancy private healthcare), some surgeries for health problems that impede your daily life are free and paid for by the government (even some eye surgeries like myopia laser treatment) as long as it is a health related surgery and not an estethic/non-essential surgery, and much more.
I’ve always worked for Xerox, a huge American company in UK. Part of my package was private healthcare & visiting their “campus” in Rochester, New York State they had their own ambulance fleet & own fire engines, it was a really good company to work for. Having private healthcare in UK just means one can jump to the top of the queue in terms of tests, seeing a consultant or having a none life threatening operation. One cannot get a private ambulance for an emergency & I have been air ambulanced because I came off a horse & had a head injury, this is also just part of NHS service.
Former CNA from US (California, North Carolina, Illinois). I've been in Finland for years. Because of ice I've broken my arm several times. Trip to ER with 2 doctor consults, 2 x-rays, pain meds, setting and casting... 30 Euro.
The US taxes may predominantly go to fund the military, but if 2% more would fund universal health care it would be worth it (bye-bye health insurance - or keep it as an option). How to motivate Americans to demand the change? Things like this really help inform them. What to do about the bloated "heath care industry" ?
Clearly it's a complex problem.
Keep up the good work.
I am just sooo happy that in 16 years living in the States I never needed a doctor or hospital... Now back in Europe I still am in great health but if that ever changes, I don't have to fear going into debt
Brazilian here. Had a cousin do 3 major surgeries after a car accident. Two on the knees, one on some region of the back. He stayed something like around a month total in the hospital (multiple visits). Had to have 8 months of physical therapy. He said the most expensive for him was a medicine that would cost him 150 reais every month. That's 30 dollars.
Our system is bad for anything but the most serious conditions. But if a situation is life threatening or limb threatening SUS will absolutely take care of you. There is also a LOT of coverage regarding any kind of expensive medicine, and several cheap ones too. You could buy insulin for about 5 dollars, but if you go through the proceedings, you will get it for free if you wish.
Yes, please do a vid with your pharmacist mother. The NHS negotiates a set price with US drug companies, and because the NHS is such a huge entity (like other country's health services) they can negotiate a RESONABLE price for their drugs... unlike native US hospitals.
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fun fact about a 12k dollar hospital bill:
I have just researched that i could get a 52 day cruise ship holiday going form Sydney, Austrialia to Hamburg, Germany, while reaching 20 destinations in 9 different countries on 3 different continents for 13.5k euros (~14k dollar).
Your choice.
🇮🇳 Once I suffered from a major illness, and during two month treatment I, we had pay something 30 $
It's was govt. hospital where A - Z all facilities were available, only we payed medicine from outside. INDIAN medical system is advance ❤️
💯💯🇮🇳
Speak for yourself, country like India which is lower middle income country, 90% Indians are 1 bill away from slipping into poverty. It may be affordable to you but not Many Indians who can’t afford treatment.
@@anantgarg8741bro you really need to know and understand the scheme and usage of Ayushman Bharat.
The higher taxes thing is a myth. By the time an average American is done with taxes and health insurance payments, they're paying about 40-45% of their wage. As opposed to 20-25% in the EU on average
In Australia here. I always get insurance when travelling overseas, with the sole exception for when I visit New Zealand. Most travel insurance also has emergency flights back to Australia, so if you get hospitalised with something really serious at some stage it is cheaper for the insurance company to fly you home in a private plane than for them to pay for continued long term hospital care.
Last year I had to stay in a psychiatric clinic for almost 3 months because of depression. The only thing my parents had to pay was the ambulance. It was €6 ($6.43). Looking at what my insurance covered, my almost *3 month* long stay in a psychiatric clinic cost €33 316.39 ($35 715.84) all covered by insurance.
I live in Germany
I'm glad you had great and cheap/nearly free care in Germany (minus the very minimal ambulance ride). That cost of 33k is impressive to completely be covered. Fantastic!
In India treatment can be as low as hundred rupees or even free (in specific cases). Indian Government hospitals are really cheap but can be hit or miss and are not advisable in life threatening situations. Indian Private hospitals are very good and also very expensive, atleast by Indian standards. Adding to the comment you read in that video India is a popular destination for "medical tourism", where people from different countries come to India to get treatment.
A video with your mother reacting sounds like a great idea.
We do have a standing prescription charge if you're normally healthy and working. So, it doesn't matter what the drug is, you have the same charge. The difference is whether or not you're elderly, disabled, unemployed or on low income; then it's free prescription.
I assume you're talking about England. I'm not sure if the situation in Wales, but I'm pretty sure that Scotland and N.Ireland have no prescription fees for anyone.
In my medical college an ultrasound - 250₹ or 3 $
X ray - 125 ₹ or 1.5$
Ct scan - 2000₹ or 14$
Ecg - 300₹ or 4₹
Emergency - 20₹ or 30 cents
Operation - free
Pay only for medication
C section - free
Pediatrics- except medication all free
CT scan in India almost 1200 and government hospital it's free
Good to know! Interesting to hear about the differences in medical costs.
I'm in South East Asia, a 3rd world/developing country, whatever you call us. Got a heart attack, brought to the hospital by ambulance 40km from my home, emergency room 1 night, ccu 2 days 1 night, was on morphine for almost 2 days, ecg and what not, operation (angiogram) 2 blockages, farmacy, hospital care and everything else for a cardio patient. 6 days in, was charged just 40+ US dollars. Parking is free, and we don't have tolled road at my place.
Oh ya, the hospital i was in is equipped with a decent cutting edge cardiology treatments.
Honestly kind of glad I am not living in USA but in little Denmark.
My story in very short form.
I fainted from what I thought was a bad panic attack as I had a history of that but turned out to be heart failure.
To be on the safe side the ambulance took me to the emergency room, I would then spend spend 24 days in 3 different hospitals, with several ECG taken each day, three times in the MRI scanner, several ultrasonic scans, and I think about 5 x-ray pictures.
And eventually getting the most advanced ICD/pacemaker available implanted, one with build in heart starter and a specialized box next to my bed that via the phone network sends my hearts data to the hospital every night so it can be monitored daily.
Total cost to me? Zero, nothing at all.
Not even the taxi ride home cost me anything as that was covered too.
So do I mind the high taxes?
No I really dont mind at all.
Oh, and there are travel insurances one can buy if traveling outside of Denmark, they normally even tend to cost extra if going to the USA instead of pretty much anywhere else in the world. but I would for sure get one if I was ever going to the states...
Avg Nurse Salary in USD annual
India: $10k.
UK: $50k.
USA-NY: $111k.
Avg overall healthcare salary annual.. all staff.
US: $70k.
UK: $38k.
India: $6k.
The cost is directly related to staffing salaries.
Exactly....
But still 100 times expensive
America does not have a health care system it has a healthcare business..
US bill for C-section did not cover the whole costs. When the indian doctor said it costs 4 lakhs in high end hospital its final bill almost everything included. When we have a baby (fremont california) the complete bill came around 1,22,00 USD(Its normal delivery, we were there in hospital for 3 days, one day before and one day after). meals are provided only for mother.
I have to pay my out of pocket costs for the year which is about 7,000 USD other that that everything is paid by insurance.
Its outrageously costly in USA to have medical care without insurance.
I’ve seen many videos like this obviously not all medical. But things like no maternity pay. Hardly any sick pay. Hardly any paid vacations. I could go on The American people really do get a terrible deal on so many things
I broke my ankle on my way to work a couple years ago. Had to go to the UC, they had a look at it, rolled me around in a wheelchair, took an X-ray, prescribed some meds, gave me a consultation and an official paper for me to log with my employer for legal reasons. I didn't have to pay shit for any of it.
It's a great idea for your mom to react to bills overseas, try different parts of the world that has world class medical standards! Do 1 for UK, 1 for Europe, 2 for Asia etc!
This is very interesting. In the UK, I have had two heart operations all at zero cost at the point of delivery. Touching 80, I can no longer afford to visit my relatives in the USA as the health insurance cost for 2 weeks is twice the air fare. Thank God for the NHS. Ho, ho I'm still a tax payer so I am helping to fund it.
Thank goodness where you live compared to here in the US. Even with great insurance here, you would still be paying a hefty sum. Stay healthy!
On the first one
The first doctor said $4000 based on what very good Indian Private Hospitals would charge
The number of around $3100 is somewhat in a medium ranged American hospital, I believe
Medical insurance is a Hugh cash cow for investors in hospital and pharmaceutical services, and medical insurance companies.Would be interesting to know how many members of the US government and their spouses have shares in health care services. Obviously no incentive to make any changes to offer a different health care system.
the last time i was in the hospital i had fallen down the stairs and broke a bone in my foot, my bill was £9 for a painkiller prescription. while everyone knows about the NHS the UK does have access to private medical care for those who can afford it. but even if i went to a private chiropractor for the initial consultation, an x-ray and six further sessions it would cost me less than £500
I had an open heard surgery (mitral valve reconstruction, no replacement) in Turkey at an privat hospital 2018. The universal insurance covered for the major part of the bill. After five days at the hospital i paid 2500 TL at that time it was 668 USD. Everything included. I had to pay that because it was a privat hospital, otherwise it would be for free. And i did not pay anything for my medications and the checks at the hospital EKG, EKO etc. afterwards till to day! I think i would be dead if i was in the US.
Thing to bear in mind is that American healthcare is done mostly via medical insurance companies. Companies are, by definition, responsible first to their shareholders. If they fail to siphon enough money off to their shareholders, it will be lawsuit time.
2.4 million, did he get ironman to bulid new body
I'd sure hope for that price tag! Perhaps a gold plated Ironman suit.
pretty sure that last bill was cancer
@@charpost62 yeah great kick a man on his last legs, way to go so glad im in uk
@@andrewwood8706 i know. I had stage 2 cancer my self 10 years ago, luckily i live in Denmark.
I heard from an American that $2.5 mill is for cancer
And it was not me kicing anyone on their last leg but the US healthcare.
Was the bill about you or did you get offended for someone else noone here knows who is
@@charpost62 glad you made it
Before paying a penny into the NHS i'd had 2 ambulance rides, 3 surgeries 1 resuscitation and 2 ER visits and spent 5 weeks in hospital!
Since starting work I've had an additional 3 surgeries, multiple MRI, CT, ultrasound scans, X-rays, supplied life saving drugs for the last 30 years...all free at point of use!
I've never had to pay for doctor visits and rarely had to pay for prescriptions (living in Scotland... prescriptions are free)
I have paid between 20 and 25% of my wages in tax over the years and have always been happy, knowing that this was giving covering my education, health and retirement/social support in the case of unemployment/ ill health.
It's a shame that the entire world sees health care as a basic human right except for the US where the health system has been replaced by a wealth system where the medical institution, pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies determine how much profit they can make from the poor schmucks paying for their services while simultaneously fleecing each other 🙄🥴😥😭
💖NHS
My Nephew with Special needs died in USA recently, they could not bury him the same day, had to wait 4 days, and the cost of burial with services was $14,000.
The USA was once a good place, its not worth living there anymore.
Now for those of you, they don’t live in the US. There’s something to keep in mind here. These prices are not real prices. They kind of are, but in way they’re not so the insurance companies negotiate charges. The insurance companies never pay this amount ever they usually pay about 50% of the amount, so what happens is a hospital charge $500 for an ultrasound scan but they know they’re only gonna get half of that $250 so if they want $250 they have to charge the insurance company 500. It’s all done this way if you go in and say you wanna pay cash your bill will be lower Than what they actually charge the insurance company it’s ridiculous and makes no sense but that’s the way they do it
In india
ECG - 1-2 USD
USG - 10USD
CT scan - 20-22 USD
MRI - 72-90 USD
minor surgerys - 50-60 dollars
Major surgerys- heart+ lung etc 2500-3000 USD
Liver transplantaion -30k USD
Dialysis -30-40USD
teeth extraction -5 usd
Putting Tooth braces- 100-120usd
X-rays -1-2 dollar per film
CT scan is about 25$ in govt hospital and 50$ for private one.
I am self employed and my Blue Cross Blue Shield of Alabama individual silver (lowest level) deductible is $7500 a year. Yes, SEVEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED.
Quite bizarre when comparing US costs (mentioned briefly my own as well in previous videos) to other countries of the world.
I went to my doctor and had a EKG scan for 20 minutes, cost me $25.
I went to the hospital and had a ultrasound on my back, i payed $30.
Later i went to the same hospital, did mild surgery? It was just under the skin, took about 1.5 hours. I payed $30 for that to.
On top of all that I got a sick note for 3 weeks as i could not work due to to the operation.
So i stayed at home for 3 weeks, WITH sallery.
On top of all that, if my medical bills for that year would passed $250, i would gotten a "free card", that means that everything is FREE after that within that year. I live in Norway btw. And im fucking glad i do...
I dont get why people wanna live in the US at all, and i feel so bad for all of you having to live with this fucked up system.
Anyways, i hope you have made a video with your mom, that would be very interesting to watch!
(im gonna go check if you have done that now. 😛 )
When my mom gave birth to my younger brother she stayed at hospital for a long time as my brother had pneumonia. My mom had three c-sections as we are three siblings and she had a really hard time. She was admitted for a really long time and my brother was in nicu..after discharge the bill was almost nil as it was a government hospital and only payment for drugs were done..kudos to indian medical system ❤
In India cost depends on hospital facilities and how much luxurious the hospital is.
Government hospital is mostly free.
C section average cost in private hospital is 300-400$.
Bro even private hospital max charge ₹60000 abd govt hospital it's very less or free
My older brother had to get brain surgery and paid $1.5 million in total for treatment. The big cost was having to fly in a neurospecialist and special scans that wouldn't disrupt the metal plate he has in his head.
How on earth are US hospitals going broke and have to reduce staff with this sort of billing practice? Another thing standing out to me: if you charge that much I would expect the bill to be much more precise and have every single procedure listed with the cost, every injection, x-rays in numbers, how many were taken etc. I am a veterinarian in Germany and we as a profession are obligated to write more detailed bills than that. By law!
Also, the medical fee schedule for MDs, dentists and veterinarians specifically details how much you are allowed to bill for a procedure at most!! I just looked it up, and if I am not mistaken an abdominal CT-Scan (human) for example is about 315€ at most. Additional scans are lower than that. And it’s covered by insurance. I know why I am never moving to the US….
$3000 for a C-section in the US is cheap, the price also varies from State to State. My emergency C-section in Delaware cost $15,000 with a 3 night stay in hospital.
That’s why It’s a constant scare for NRIs when their old parents visit them in the US - you need to get a insurance for their entire stay and we don’t even know if those agencies really pay up when actually needed.