Those old mags are a work of art. The newer ones have a better magnet but aren't as decorative. There's something about that big horseshoe magnet that is neat looking. I all of my antique tractors have had mags on them. The only tractor I have left is a 49 Allis Chalmers B. I rebuilt the mag on that one 19 years ago and It's still working great. That has a Fairbanks Morse mag on it. I was still working as a line mechanic at a Chrysler dealer and had the mag at work. One of the rookies, who thought he knew everything was playing with the mag after I had rebuilt it. It was clamped in a vise, sitting on a metal workbench when he rotated the impulse coupling. I told him if he heard it click he was going to get bit. He didn't listen I heard the impulse trip and him scream like a little girl at the same time.
Your composure, your knowledge and skill, and your well-informed and orderly delivery and commentary are unequaled. Considering your modesty and unassuming manner, you probably don't even realize that you are a true modern day hero. Truly. This all arises from your years of work, thought, problem solving, and heritage. You can't fake that. Thank you both so much for all your work.
I'll never own a Cat, nevertheless, I find this fascinating. Your knowledge and the ability to convey it in an interesting and informative manner makes this an outstanding channel. You missed your true calling Squatch, you would have made an outstanding teacher or instructor.
Squatch, i am from South Africa. I grew up with 630,730,'70 10,20,30, John Deere' s and one early D4CAT Dozer. Early '70's?? I think. You have thé best Utube éver channel. I kid you not. I' m 52.5yrs old now. Your way of explaining and easyness of commenting calms me down and take me back to when life was simple and better quality than now... Please proceed sir!! I salute you. Albert Basson.
Your remarks about the company wanting to let everyone know who made their product and that they were proud of it is right on the mark. I believe a lot of that was because the person who started the company designed the product and was an integral part of the company. Now when most of the companies are run by money managers whose job is to extract the most profit from the company and likely couldn't identify one of the components they supply that is not ever going to happen again.
If everyone's pony motors ran as well as yours do there wouldn't be a market for direct start kits for Cats! Man that's a sweet running little pony. Hope all is well, great start to a Monday, or here in Japan, start to a Tuesday!
@@squatch253 I completely agree with you on the starting engine being the ideal way to start a diesel without any sort of other starting aids. In fact, the few people I know who have purchased and installed direct start conversions in my neck of the woods (Upper Peninsula of Michigan) haven't been happy with them. You just can't get enough heat in the engine with an electric starter to get the machines to reliably start below 40 degrees. They end up using excessive amounts of Ether, lighting charcoal fires in metal 5 gallon buckets, or drain pans to try and warm the oil, or both. Cat ran pony motors for a LONG time, because they just flat out worked. Even in sub zero temps, you can just run the Pony longer to help get some heat into the coolant, and you always had good oil flow and pressure in the main engine when it did fire. The international gas starting system also works quite well even in really cold temps, I once started a 1950's Austin Western road grader with a 460 cu in 4 cyl IH Gas start Diesel in single degree temps that hadn't run in 8 months with just a group 34 car battery. Fired right off on gas, ran for 4-5 minutes and switched flawlessly over to diesel. They don't make stuff like this anymore, and it's a shame. I much prefer heavy cast to plastic and stamped tin.
You’re videos never cease to amaze me. I appreciate how you take the time to explain and demonstrate every step of the process. I’ll probably never own an old Cat, but if I do, I’ll know how to make it run!
Again, I love the detail you put in your videos. I love these old machines, been fascinated with machinery since I was a kid. Grew up on a david brown, and big ford diesel 4x4 that my aunt owned. Mostly I have small tractors, all vintage Sears, but I love all things mechanical.
Nice job with great detail! Been a Caterpillar Tech for 50 plus years and I’m sure that I couldn’t have explained that any better (probably not as good) always enjoy your videos 👍
Squatch we had some old Moline well engines on the farm and every so many years we had an older gentleman come rebuild the mags. After he would rebuild them he'd spin them over by hand with his finger in the terminal. He'd jump and go yep it's good!!!!
I have said this before on other videos about magneto service: CAT mags are on fire! I got bit by one and I thought I'd pee'd myself; almost fell off the track of the D9 I was working on. I've been hit by several coils and mags, but nothing compares to that CAT pony motor magneto. :) Damn! Be careful when messing with it.
Just in case the rebuild of the Magneto was not videotaped, I'd love to see Snr rebuild the faulty Mag pulled off the D6 in a future episode here on your channel. I realise of course that you have a long list of other videos that are planned, but hope you can squeeze this one on to the ever growing list? Thanks in advance :)
Thanks I learned something today. I always wondered how to set up a mag, got a farmall m, someone took mag off and I want to put it back when I do restoration.
i have a thought.. you recall a few videos back about copper washers on important bolts that need to seal.. i think the 4 mag mounting bolts count as needing to seal.. to keep any rain and wash down water from wicking down the threads and into the magneto.. i would think some Hylomar or the hylomar in a permatex tube called Flange sealant 85420.. on the threads to act as an anti seize and extremely long term water proof thread sealant that never hardens. i have split VW cases that were 17 years assembled. and the hylomar on the surfaces was still tacky and sealing. heck.. i might coat the mounting flange of the magneto with a very thin layer of hylomar to prevent corrosion when placed against the iron mount. the mounting bolts should have enough ground connection to complete the spark return path to the magneto..
You have any friends, cousins who would start doing these videos for all the other old machines of this era? The International T and TD's, the Allis Chalmers, and all the others. Would love to see them.
Thank you for the video. Seems like when I hear about guys working and repairing magnetos,they are referred to with an almost mystical reverence.Any chance your Dad could show why?
Hey Toby! Does the RC-2Q mag require a certain impulse for these starting engines? Mine looks the same as yours but it is catching and binding while cranking, then sometimes its ok and snaps over, had Marks magneto install a nos impulse and its acting up again. Thanks, Gary
Never mind, I took the mag apart and found out the armature shaft is 1/4" too long and was holding the pawl assembly to far away from the catch plate. It would catch and cut the catch plate till it would latch anymore.
When he gets more spare time I've got an old Eisemann he's more than welcome to tinker with if he so chooses, I've had mag guys tell me they want nothing to do with them!
Those old mags are a work of art. The newer ones have a better magnet but aren't as decorative. There's something about that big horseshoe magnet that is neat looking. I all of my antique tractors have had mags on them. The only tractor I have left is a 49 Allis Chalmers B. I rebuilt the mag on that one 19 years ago and It's still working great. That has a Fairbanks Morse mag on it. I was still working as a line mechanic at a Chrysler dealer and had the mag at work. One of the rookies, who thought he knew everything was playing with the mag after I had rebuilt it. It was clamped in a vise, sitting on a metal workbench when he rotated the impulse coupling. I told him if he heard it click he was going to get bit. He didn't listen I heard the impulse trip and him scream like a little girl at the same time.
Your composure, your knowledge and skill, and your well-informed and orderly delivery and commentary are unequaled. Considering your modesty and unassuming manner, you probably don't even realize that you are a true modern day hero. Truly. This all arises from your years of work, thought, problem solving, and heritage. You can't fake that. Thank you both so much for all your work.
I'll never own a Cat, nevertheless, I find this fascinating. Your knowledge and the ability to convey it in an interesting and informative manner makes this an outstanding channel. You missed your true calling Squatch, you would have made an outstanding teacher or instructor.
Indeed sir me as well!!
Never say Never. Not only will you get one, one day, but so will I. Start with an ACMOC hat....
Very detailed and descriptive.
I think even a Caveman could do a MAG replacement after watching this.
Thx for the Video!!
Squatch, i am from South Africa. I grew up with 630,730,'70 10,20,30, John Deere' s and one early D4CAT Dozer. Early '70's?? I think. You have thé best Utube éver channel. I kid you not. I' m 52.5yrs old now. Your way of explaining and easyness of commenting calms me down and take me back to when life was simple and better quality than now... Please proceed sir!! I salute you. Albert Basson.
Your remarks about the company wanting to let everyone know who made their product and that they were proud of it is right on the mark. I believe a lot of that was because the person who started the company designed the product and was an integral part of the company. Now when most of the companies are run by money managers whose job is to extract the most profit from the company and likely couldn't identify one of the components they supply that is not ever going to happen again.
If everyone's pony motors ran as well as yours do there wouldn't be a market for direct start kits for Cats! Man that's a sweet running little pony. Hope all is well, great start to a Monday, or here in Japan, start to a Tuesday!
@@squatch253 I completely agree with you on the starting engine being the ideal way to start a diesel without any sort of other starting aids. In fact, the few people I know who have purchased and installed direct start conversions in my neck of the woods (Upper Peninsula of Michigan) haven't been happy with them. You just can't get enough heat in the engine with an electric starter to get the machines to reliably start below 40 degrees. They end up using excessive amounts of Ether, lighting charcoal fires in metal 5 gallon buckets, or drain pans to try and warm the oil, or both. Cat ran pony motors for a LONG time, because they just flat out worked. Even in sub zero temps, you can just run the Pony longer to help get some heat into the coolant, and you always had good oil flow and pressure in the main engine when it did fire. The international gas starting system also works quite well even in really cold temps, I once started a 1950's Austin Western road grader with a 460 cu in 4 cyl IH Gas start Diesel in single degree temps that hadn't run in 8 months with just a group 34 car battery. Fired right off on gas, ran for 4-5 minutes and switched flawlessly over to diesel. They don't make stuff like this anymore, and it's a shame. I much prefer heavy cast to plastic and stamped tin.
You’re videos never cease to amaze me. I appreciate how you take the time to explain and demonstrate every step of the process. I’ll probably never own an old Cat, but if I do, I’ll know how to make it run!
Again, I love the detail you put in your videos. I love these old machines, been fascinated with machinery since I was a kid. Grew up on a david brown, and big ford diesel 4x4 that my aunt owned. Mostly I have small tractors, all vintage Sears, but I love all things mechanical.
Yeah, get the fuel and the fire coming together at the RIGHT time and she'll run ! 😊
Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍
Great info, just forty five years late when I needed it so got someone like yourself to teach me cause I owned a D four back then... good video
Nice job with great detail! Been a Caterpillar Tech for 50 plus years and I’m sure that I couldn’t have explained that any better (probably not as good) always enjoy your videos 👍
Squatch we had some old Moline well engines on the farm and every so many years we had an older gentleman come rebuild the mags. After he would rebuild them he'd spin them over by hand with his finger in the terminal. He'd jump and go yep it's good!!!!
You sure know your stuff! I bet you learned lots from Dad over the years.
I have said this before on other videos about magneto service: CAT mags are on fire! I got bit by one and I thought I'd pee'd myself; almost fell off the track of the D9 I was working on. I've been hit by several coils and mags, but nothing compares to that CAT pony motor magneto. :) Damn! Be careful when messing with it.
First, what da I win. Lol. Made back in the day when companies were proud of what they made not so much today
Great informative instruction ! Thank you. I love this machinery, new or old.
Well done Jr and Sr. I like that pebbled look on the logo it reminds me of the Plomb/Proto pebble tools.
Yup know I learn so much from you and your dad. Always a.pleasure to watch.
Just in case the rebuild of the Magneto was not videotaped, I'd love to see Snr rebuild the faulty Mag pulled off the D6 in a future episode here on your channel. I realise of course that you have a long list of other videos that are planned, but hope you can squeeze this one on to the ever growing list? Thanks in advance :)
Great how-to video Squatch! Engine sounds great!
Once again you explained the process to a tee. Great video
Thanks I learned something today. I always wondered how to set up a mag, got a farmall m, someone took mag off and I want to put it back when I do restoration.
I think it would have made an interesting video rebuilding the mag ! Good job.
That is such a sweet runnin pony motor 👍 not that I'll ever own a cat but am sure I'll remember about how to set the timing ty 👍👍
Nicely explained
Thanks for the video Toby as always great job!
What a beautiful mag......
i have a thought.. you recall a few videos back about copper washers on important bolts that need to seal.. i think the 4 mag mounting bolts count as needing to seal.. to keep any rain and wash down water from wicking down the threads and into the magneto.. i would think some Hylomar or the hylomar in a permatex tube called Flange sealant 85420.. on the threads to act as an anti seize and extremely long term water proof thread sealant that never hardens. i have split VW cases that were 17 years assembled. and the hylomar on the surfaces was still tacky and sealing. heck.. i might coat the mounting flange of the magneto with a very thin layer of hylomar to prevent corrosion when placed against the iron mount. the mounting bolts should have enough ground connection to complete the spark return path to the magneto..
been many a year since I played with a magneto, would spend many a day working on them so I had back ups.
like going back to school all over again
Great video! Love the detail.
Great information and a nice job
Nice!!!! Easy install, no worries. Nice video.....
I was watching one of your Ads that RUclips puts on your channel “Underwater” the movie look very desteving
Great Video!!!
You have any friends, cousins who would start doing these videos for all the other old machines of this era? The International T and TD's, the Allis Chalmers, and all the others. Would love to see them.
Squatch, can you do a "walk around" how it works, what's inside on the RD6 fuel injection pump?
good demo, thanks.
PURE MAGIC 😎
Very cool
Excellent
Good video, very interesting! What is the story behind the repaired crack in the clutch housing?
Did you ever conclude what damaged the no. 3 cylinder in the Super M, you over hauled ? i mentioned to hot of spark plug.
Thank you for the video. Seems like when I hear about guys working and repairing magnetos,they are referred to with an almost mystical reverence.Any chance your Dad could show why?
Squatch253 do you ever make it to Rochester MN? There is a guy down here with a really nice D4 restored.
Hey Toby! Does the RC-2Q mag require a certain impulse for these starting engines? Mine looks the same as yours but it is catching and binding while cranking, then sometimes its ok and snaps over, had Marks magneto install a nos impulse and its acting up again. Thanks, Gary
Never mind, I took the mag apart and found out the armature shaft is 1/4" too long and was holding the pawl assembly to far away from the catch plate. It would catch and cut the catch plate till it would latch anymore.
@@squatch253 Thanks Toby
Another A-PLUS!
When he gets more spare time I've got an old Eisemann he's more than welcome to tinker with if he so chooses, I've had mag guys tell me they want nothing to do with them!
Did you check with Rudy at Rebuiltmags? :-)
What are the starting motors used for?
Did you do any d2 magneto vids?
@@squatch253 after an hour of messing with a 42’ wico It only sparks one direction. And it wasn’t the way I was turning 😂😂
Are you interested in a old cat d7 Cable operated blade
I never understood those magnetos... is it a coil with breaker and distributer or how dos this shit work? Wat is inside?
Your Dad you saved $350.00 or $400.00 without trade.
The hell we did not need to watch REASSEMBLY... I feel cheated when you hack your videos that way...