G'day mate, we own one of these - have for 50 years (D4. Process to start is this as per the book which would be same as D2. I think youve mostly got it right but read on...) - Start pony which you've done no worries. - Once pony warm, engage main engine - diesel fuel off & decompression lever pulled out = deco on. - After engine has rolled over for a little while with decompression still pulled out, push in the deco lever to create compression on main engine. You can then let the Pony roll the big motor over in this configuration for quite some time - still no diesel fuel though. (Engine oil pressure should be up now too.) - in this configuration the pony motor is generating warmth into diesel motor via friction & exhaust gases running through main diesel manifold. Its a very kind and gentle way to start a diesel. heating the diesel motor prior to starting is part of the process. - When your happy main motor has fuel pressure & heat you can shut off fuel to pilot motor and just before pilot conks out rotate & open the diesel fuel to main engine, She'll start perfectly every time. - Pilot will stop as fuel is expired, This is important. - This method is straight from the book and is how it should be done, don't open diesel fuel lever tool early. Good luck...
Unfortunately, no. I've been informed by more knowledgeable people in one of my groups that I did a few things wrong, too. There's a guy here on RUclips goes by Squatch, or something like that, that is specialized in these D2's and D4's and will offer much more detailed information... Thanks for watching!
You’re on the right track - if it’s already warm, you can skip the long cranking with the compression release open, just get it rolling over with the pony, close the comp release and immediately open the diesel throttle, it’ll pop right off. Edit: Also, the starting engine clutch has a brake in it, the disengaged position is where he said it was, but he should be able to put pressure on the clutch lever and hold it (towards the operator’s seat) and stop the pinion rotation to while using the pinion lever to mesh it with the diesel’s flywheel and then push the clutch lever forward to engage the clutch and spin the diesel over. He should also turn the gas off to the pony and run it dry to turn it off instead of using the mag switch. This will prevent gas from bouncing out of the pony’s float bowl and migrating into the cylinders and contaminating the engine oil (which is less than a quart) and causing catastrophic damage to the pony. There are hardly any parts available to repair those these days, so everything possible needs to be done to protect those little engines.
this guy is using an incorrect starting procedure and is harming his machine. A Cat NEVER needs ether/Easy-start if you use the correct procedure. Start the pony with full choke and push it in as soon as it starts, which should be no later than the second pull of the rope, no matter how cold the weather is. Using ether instead of the choke is silly. If the pony won't start, it needs servicing, not ether. He advanced the "throttle" as he called it, and started the diesel by dropping the decompression. The speed lever should be set to cutoff and when the diesel is turning , drop the decompression so that the pony generates more heat. When the diesel is warm, start it by advancing the speed lever. What he calls the throttle is not a throttle because a) the air is not throttled on a diesel engine - the rack in the injection pump is moved to vary the amount of fuel injected, and b) these engines are governed so that engine RPM stays constant when load varies - the speed lever does not act directly. His method of starting causes a lot of unburnt diesel fuel to get past the rings in a cold engine, dilute the oil, and cause excessive wear.
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Thanks for the details; not everyone goes through the procedure like this!
G'day mate, we own one of these - have for 50 years (D4. Process to start is this as per the book which would be same as D2. I think youve mostly got it right but read on...)
- Start pony which you've done no worries.
- Once pony warm, engage main engine - diesel fuel off & decompression lever pulled out = deco on.
- After engine has rolled over for a little while with decompression still pulled out, push in the deco lever to create compression on main engine. You can then let the Pony roll the big motor over in this configuration for quite some time - still no diesel fuel though. (Engine oil pressure should be up now too.)
- in this configuration the pony motor is generating warmth into diesel motor via friction & exhaust gases running through main diesel manifold. Its a very kind and gentle way to start a diesel. heating the diesel motor prior to starting is part of the process.
- When your happy main motor has fuel pressure & heat you can shut off fuel to pilot motor and just before pilot conks out rotate & open the diesel fuel to main engine, She'll start perfectly every time.
- Pilot will stop as fuel is expired, This is important.
- This method is straight from the book and is how it should be done, don't open diesel fuel lever tool early. Good luck...
What a process!!
Good demonstration
I noticed the diesel engine was turning also when pulling the rope start for the pony.
One of the best i have listened to great job
No, he did it wrongly.
great piece of history ~ thank you ⁉️🔥
Cat D2 being a CAT has a KITTEN ENGINE!!! Get it?🇨🇦😄
My dad bought five WWll surplus D4 Cats, had lots of engine trouble; the timing gears on the diesel engine were made of Bakelite!
That's a very unfortunate bit of knowledge about the timing gears!
@@MitchellSVCSLLC He took a contract to build a portion of highway that he’d flown over thinking the cats would do the job. Learning experience.
Great video demonstration thanks!!
Gotta have a couple puffs of the cigarette while spraying starter fluid lmao safety first
YOLO!!!
Cool.
What manufacturer is the blade?
Wow extensive process to get that started.
Is there any steps that can be skipped or minimized if the diesel is already nice and toasty
Unfortunately, no.
I've been informed by more knowledgeable people in one of my groups that I did a few things wrong, too. There's a guy here on RUclips goes by Squatch, or something like that, that is specialized in these D2's and D4's and will offer much more detailed information... Thanks for watching!
You’re on the right track - if it’s already warm, you can skip the long cranking with the compression release open, just get it rolling over with the pony, close the comp release and immediately open the diesel throttle, it’ll pop right off.
Edit: Also, the starting engine clutch has a brake in it, the disengaged position is where he said it was, but he should be able to put pressure on the clutch lever and hold it (towards the operator’s seat) and stop the pinion rotation to while using the pinion lever to mesh it with the diesel’s flywheel and then push the clutch lever forward to engage the clutch and spin the diesel over.
He should also turn the gas off to the pony and run it dry to turn it off instead of using the mag switch. This will prevent gas from bouncing out of the pony’s float bowl and migrating into the cylinders and contaminating the engine oil (which is less than a quart) and causing catastrophic damage to the pony. There are hardly any parts available to repair those these days, so everything possible needs to be done to protect those little engines.
Turn pony fuel off to stop the pony, let it drain carb to stop.
Are you really using ether while smoking a cigar?!
Yup! OSHA-approved!
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this guy is using an incorrect starting procedure and is harming his machine. A Cat NEVER needs ether/Easy-start if you use the correct procedure.
Start the pony with full choke and push it in as soon as it starts, which should be no later than the second pull of the rope, no matter how cold the weather is. Using ether instead of the choke is silly.
If the pony won't start, it needs servicing, not ether.
He advanced the "throttle" as he called it, and started the diesel by dropping the decompression. The speed lever should be set to cutoff and when the diesel is turning , drop the decompression so that the pony generates more heat. When the diesel is warm, start it by advancing the speed lever.
What he calls the throttle is not a throttle because a) the air is not throttled on a diesel engine - the rack in the injection pump is moved to vary the amount of fuel injected, and b) these engines are governed so that engine RPM stays constant when load varies - the speed lever does not act directly.
His method of starting causes a lot of unburnt diesel fuel to get past the rings in a cold engine, dilute the oil, and cause excessive wear.