Thanks for watching this video. I would appreciate feedback on how to make this video better for viewers? Let me know in the comments... Check out a RUclips short of the hook turn with a tram lane here: ruclips.net/user/shortsASKAIDEj7fo Further Info With Time Codes: ------------------------------------------------ 00:16 - Victorian Road Safety Road Rule 76: A driver must not move into the path of an approaching tram in a tram lane. If driving straight down tram lanes, we must move out of the path of the tram if it can be done safely and if applicable. This may not be possible due to traffic/parked cars. For example: Lygon St in Brunswick. Tram lanes may have time restrictions whereby we can not use the tram lane between a certain time. This is usually during peak times. 1:21 - Before approaching the intersection, if there are already vehicles inside and we cannot fit beyond the pedestrian crossing in-front of us, then we should not enter the intersection and wait back for the next cycle of traffic lights. 1:40 - Checking the right mirror and performing a right head/shoulder check will help us to avoid someone from behind potentially doing the wrong thing, such as driving straight through the red light or turning before us. There could be a vulnerable road user next to us, such as a motorcyclist or cyclist.
If there's 2 hook turns provided (each direction of the intersection) is it legal to use the both to preform a uturn? Like you enter the intersection on the left, wait for the road you want to do another hook turn on to go green, get into that hook turn lane and then wait for the green again? Or hook turns are only meant to be used once and you have to go around the block to make the uturn?
Thanks for the comment and question, Ben. 🙏🏽 This is the rule copied from the Road Safety Road Rules 2017: - 37 Beginning a U-turn A driver must not begin a U-turn unless- (a) the driver has a clear view of any approaching traffic; and (b) the driver can safely make the U-turn without unreasonably obstructing the free movement of traffic. When making a hook turn, rule 37 (b) would come into effect if trying to make a u-turn as you would be unreasonably obstructing the free movement of traffic. Does that make sense?
1:21 - Before approaching the intersection, if there are already vehicles inside and we cannot fit beyond the pedestrian crossing in-front of us, then we should not enter the intersection and wait back for the next cycle of traffic lights. Hope this helps. :)
@@fknracer yes, you would be blocking the vehicle behind to turn left. But if you were to move up, you would be blocking the pedestrian crossing and would be taking longer to proceed through the intersection to turn right with the other vehicles making the hook turn.
@@fknracer I hope you enjoy your visit. Thank you for watching the video and wanting to know more about the hook turn. If you need anything else, feel free to ask.
Australia has copied the worst of American city design with hellish suburbs without sidewalks etc. so just get rid of the trams and get more cars. That's the American (and Australian way)
Which suburbs are you referring to, that don't have sidewalks? The Melbourne CBD is becoming more pedestrian and cyclist friendly. If anything, they want cars to stay away from the CBD, and want people to use more public transport. That's the way it seems to be going from what we have seen.
Controlled right turn doesn't solve the problem. There is no room for dedicated right-turn lanes and so right turning traffic will still hold up through traffic. It makes matters worse if left turning traffic is holding up the left lane whilst waiting for pedestrians to cross. No one is going through. Hook turns combine turning traffic into one lane which keeps through traffic moving. Smart solution. Too smart for Sydney.
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Thanks for watching this video. I would appreciate feedback on how to make this video better for viewers? Let me know in the comments...
Check out a RUclips short of the hook turn with a tram lane here: ruclips.net/user/shortsASKAIDEj7fo
Further Info With Time Codes:
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00:16 - Victorian Road Safety Road Rule 76: A driver must not move into the path of an approaching tram in a tram lane. If driving straight down tram lanes, we must move out of the path of the tram if it can be done safely and if applicable. This may not be possible due to traffic/parked cars. For example: Lygon St in Brunswick. Tram lanes may have time restrictions whereby we can not use the tram lane between a certain time. This is usually during peak times.
1:21 - Before approaching the intersection, if there are already vehicles inside and we cannot fit beyond the pedestrian crossing in-front of us, then we should not enter the intersection and wait back for the next cycle of traffic lights.
1:40 - Checking the right mirror and performing a right head/shoulder check will help us to avoid someone from behind potentially doing the wrong thing, such as driving straight through the red light or turning before us. There could be a vulnerable road user next to us, such as a motorcyclist or cyclist.
Have a trip coming up to Melbourne in April 2024 for a week. Renting a car at MEL Airport. Any driving tips?
A lot of these intersections look busy enough to justify a dedicated right turn aspect.
Do you mean with a controlled turning arrow?
The problem is there is no room for a right turning lane due to the tram tracks. Right turning traffic would still hold up through traffic.
@@soulsphere9242 100%.
If there's 2 hook turns provided (each direction of the intersection) is it legal to use the both to preform a uturn? Like you enter the intersection on the left, wait for the road you want to do another hook turn on to go green, get into that hook turn lane and then wait for the green again? Or hook turns are only meant to be used once and you have to go around the block to make the uturn?
Thanks for the comment and question, Ben. 🙏🏽
This is the rule copied from the Road Safety Road Rules 2017:
- 37 Beginning a U-turn
A driver must not begin a U-turn unless-
(a) the driver has a clear view of any
approaching traffic; and
(b) the driver can safely make the U-turn
without unreasonably obstructing the
free movement of traffic.
When making a hook turn, rule 37 (b) would come into effect if trying to make a u-turn as you would be unreasonably obstructing the free movement of traffic.
Does that make sense?
What should i do if i dont have spot in the hook turn area?
1:21 - Before approaching the intersection, if there are already vehicles inside and we cannot fit beyond the pedestrian crossing in-front of us, then we should not enter the intersection and wait back for the next cycle of traffic lights. Hope this helps. :)
@@CRUDEDriving if i stayed back, would i be blocking the car behind that wants to turn left
Thats my only concern rn after learning how to drive with trams and bus... 😉 will visit from canada next month
@@fknracer yes, you would be blocking the vehicle behind to turn left. But if you were to move up, you would be blocking the pedestrian crossing and would be taking longer to proceed through the intersection to turn right with the other vehicles making the hook turn.
@@fknracer I hope you enjoy your visit. Thank you for watching the video and wanting to know more about the hook turn. If you need anything else, feel free to ask.
Australia has copied the worst of American city design with hellish suburbs without sidewalks etc. so just get rid of the trams and get more cars. That's the American (and Australian way)
Which suburbs are you referring to, that don't have sidewalks? The Melbourne CBD is becoming more pedestrian and cyclist friendly. If anything, they want cars to stay away from the CBD, and want people to use more public transport. That's the way it seems to be going from what we have seen.
This has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.
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Get controlled right turns..like in Sydney. Moronic govt.
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Controlled right turn doesn't solve the problem. There is no room for dedicated right-turn lanes and so right turning traffic will still hold up through traffic. It makes matters worse if left turning traffic is holding up the left lane whilst waiting for pedestrians to cross. No one is going through. Hook turns combine turning traffic into one lane which keeps through traffic moving. Smart solution. Too smart for Sydney.