I think the mobile cpus became like desktop cpu's they will boost as much as there is cooling headroom but due to thermal constrain they throttle instantly.. same as my i7 13700k instantly hit 100 degree c and thermal throttle with an antec 240mm aio but upgraded to a lian li 2 360 stays max boost clock under 80 degree c. Only the gaming phone with active cooling will be able to tamed the snapdragon gen 3.
The Iphone 15 pro max looks timid when been tasked the oneplus 12 looks more brute when been tasked it just charges in at full force. A few updates should make the oneplus a powerful gentle man.
@ataparag232 i mean As normal day usage 1 plus wins Haptics animations and stereo sounds wins it for me. They are fast anyways but the 3 important stuff for me are winners
Oh ok I understand. In Europe (Austria) I made the Benchmark in Geekbench 6.2.2 for my S23 Ultra 512 GB and my results are higher. I got: 2111 in Singlecore 5526 in Multicore This phone performs still perfect.
Totally agree and respect you brother for showing honesty. I don't understand people and their bias for a brand. We must fight and figure out which Brand does bring more value for the price at the table. I'm just sick of these sheeps tha are paying overpriced products and aren't worth. We must work together so no Brand monopolizes the market and gives overpriced and the same product with minimal upgrades. I personally changed from Samsung to Xiaomi and now I'm preferring this gerogrus OnePlus 12. It isn't going to break the bank and has Superb display, Build Quality and ofc the amazing 8gen3 plus🔥🔥🔥 Plus isn't over 1000€ like the most flagship are going for is its ridiculous price. Gladly we are having some competition with different chipset like mediatek exynos and now hopefully the prices of the chipset of snapdragon and A series will go down and the users will benefit from.
The screen is bright enough. Those 4500 Nits are tested in specific scenarios of HDR video in certain display areas so I can say it's a gimmick but the display is still very good
I didnt get the emui 13 update in my huawei nova 9 se ,but when i search it says huawei nova 9 se took the emui 13 update in europe,i really want this update
A Geekbench 6 Single-Core score of 2,165 points and Multi-Core score of 6,578 points... Was high performance mode on? If so, isn't that supposed to score at least 7,000 points in multi-core?
how it's that ? all real life performance tests shows that gen2 is even better than A17, and as iphone user I can tell you that theses phones are just garbage, it tends to lag on keyboard and has many weird performance issues, every ios update fixes issues but at the same time adds new ones, doesn't matter how the chip is powerful if the phone has no heatsink, theses temperature tests seems to be false too as I can clearly overheat my iphone in less than 30mins and it is noticeable HOT like any other phone, and when they test temperatures there is usually 3* difference which you don't feel, when samsung heats up with iphone you can even feel that iphone is hotter when you holding it, these days I don't believe what I see, i'm using phone and I know how bad it is, and A18 will be at Gen3 level in short burst test, benchmarks are not real life performance, using camera for hour, watching in the same time video or having heavy tasks in splitscreen or downing patches for game and music in the background it's something that iphone just can't compete and that's it, people like you are blindfolded by Apple go and watch Geekerwan lab tests comparison A17 to Gen2, A17 is so bad that it can't be magically fixed it's like situation with snap Gen1, so don't expect A18 to be better lol
@@ThereIsOnlyOneRandomTotally agree and respect you brother for showing honesty. I don't understand people and their bias for a brand. We must fight and figure out which Brand does bring more value for the price at the table. I'm just sick of these sheeps tha are paying overpriced products and aren't worth. We must work together so no Brand monopolizes the market and gives overpriced and the same product with minimal upgrades. I personally changed from Samsung to Xiaomi and now I'm preferring this gerogrus OnePlus 12. It isn't going to break the bank and has Superb display, Build Quality and ofc the amazing 8gen3 plus🔥🔥🔥 Plus isn't over 1000€ like the most flagship are going for is its ridiculous price. Gladly we are having some competition with different chipset like mediatek exynos and now hopefully the prices of the chipset of snapdragon and A series will go down and the users will benefit from.
so overal, SD 3 is the strongest chip but less stable then SD2 for galaxy, A17 have only best CPu performance but very unstable, SD2 for Galaxy is the most stable chip here with similar overal performance like A17..
@@SystemHacks yea in point of thermals, Ultra kiling all device, because have biggest cooling chamber and good optimize chip, also, one guy on you tube(in depth tech reviews) make video in long gaming perfomance beetwen Ultra and 15 pro max , after playing hard games makes just for phone and open you tube and google maps in same time, Iphone start throttle and game crush after 9 minutes of playing, display lose brightnes because try to save heat, and thats the new question come, how they think playing AAA games on Iphone when throttle on phone games and some open aplication after 9 minutes hard task?? also samsung have charghe option when play games, so when games start and phone is plug in, chargher dont charghe battery anymore, just directly powers device without charghing battery, no charghing no additional heating..
Apple are kings of optimization and they'll make gaming experience good. These tests In deep tech reviews like are not relevant for me, because if you want to make the device crash you can but that's not a real life scenario and that's why apple don't care about it.
it's just how the phone is assembled and software control, overall in other phones Gen3 is more stable, OnePlus isn't good anymore, anyway S24 ultra will show how stable Gen3 is and if the stability will be at 70% then it will overall perform much better than A17 or gen2, and Dinensity isn't good but GPU performance is just insane
On the last GPU test, the iPhone was far more sensibly optimised. It dropped to a stable rate fast and maintained that to give a consistent user experience. The iPhone is managed by software to cope with your actions. The S23U seems to be temp throttled, so as soon as it hits a temp, its performance nudges down as the system gets saturated, leading to a more jerky experience. The OnePlus is the worst; it blasts and then thermal throttles, giving an inferior user experience (see FPS differential). For me, consistency is better, which is why the iPhone had the best stability and the OP the worst. For a 2023 chip, that was great. The S23U also did better than the OP IMHO. I will only dump on the SD8G3, even with the poor show, once we see how others perform as 2024 progresses. But it doesn't look like an upgrade that amounts to much ATM.
Definitely it's not a big upgrade from 8gen 2. For the idea of having such a powerful CPU(like apple) and throttles it immediately is nonsense. On the other hand OnePlus were never good at thermal management.
@@SystemHacks I think it is a case of what the OEM feels is best for the consumer, and a consistent experience is undoubtedly much better. If Apple was doing worse at the end of the test, you might have a point, but both the S23U and OP perform much worse for stability, and if you are playing games for 2 hours, the far superior experience will be on the iPhone. Sometimes, it is about optimisation, not bragging rights, and Apple nailed it here.
well phone to phone performance isn't the same, look at xiaomi tests, it goes hot but so iphone goes and iphone just can't provide the stability which xiaomi does, any these benchmarks are pointless as in real life multitasking iphone 15 pro max loses even to s23 ultra id dims faster and more than samsung and it even crashed during heavy multitasking test, and as iphone user I wonder why all benchmarks are done specifically for iphone short term performance iphone can't compete I know all weakness of IOS and iphone as i'm using it, no matter what you do iphone won't be better at performance for long term, you can play on android watch video's at the same time and overall multitasking destroys iphone just search it and you'll see that iphone isn't even close, and gen3 closed the gap even more
@@ThereIsOnlyOneRandom Most of us do not multitask, that is very niche, probably 66%) do not even play games. So sustained performance is for most irrelevant and it is the snappiness of opening an app or doing short-spurt tasks, and single core CPU is what 100% matters there. The iPhone is 30% better than the rest and for me and 95% of iPhone users that is what matters, not silly multitasking tests that no one does on a phone!
The antutu and 8gen3 its total bullshit fake.😂 check animation when tested antutu. On oneplus 12 fuckin lags, and on a s23ultra soo much smooth and oneplus soo much better score? How? 😂😂 8gen3 its fuckin joke, not 25% better than 8gen3. Its about 10% worst most trottling and draw more power consumption. Im happy when i buy on february 2023 my s23ultra. Verry good decision. But respect on 15 pro max. Verry good camera detsils zooming.
@IR_40 bro i bought it it is FUCKIN AMAZINGLY INSANE I am happy I ditched my s23 ultra and fold 4 for this masterpiece but ... I wanna get rid of the color os i am not good at these technicalities but i hope i find someone who can help.
Nice phone that OnePlus 12!
I think the mobile cpus became like desktop cpu's they will boost as much as there is cooling headroom but due to thermal constrain they throttle instantly..
same as my i7 13700k instantly hit 100 degree c and thermal throttle with an antec 240mm aio but upgraded to a lian li 2 360 stays max boost clock under 80 degree c.
Only the gaming phone with active cooling will be able to tamed the snapdragon gen 3.
Agree we can't beat the physics
Yeah, still 8Gen 3 is so powerful that it stays underclocked most of the time.
Even Genshin Impact won't Max it.
in gaming you dont want you cpu to be max else it will stutter the gpu must be max out@@rrrr3666
Red magic diablo mode can push it to max
The Iphone 15 pro max looks timid when been tasked the oneplus 12 looks more brute when been tasked it just charges in at full force. A few updates should make the oneplus a powerful gentle man.
For sure updates will polish user experience
Animations tests definitely oneplus is gonna crush iPhone and Samsung
Will do that 👍
Galaxy Maçã e One Plus camarada
dude it was struggling lol
@ataparag232 i mean
As normal day usage 1 plus wins
Haptics animations and stereo sounds wins it for me.
They are fast anyways but the 3 important stuff for me are winners
@@DrAlyElashry yes true I’ve noticed the same things when putting oneplus 10t and iPhone 14 pro side by side
That geekbench 6 was running for armv8 architecture, not their armv9 I think thats the problem
Maybe you are right we need to investigate it further
OnePlus 12 🥇🏆🎉❤️🔥💥
Why you don't use the newest Version of Geekbench for Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra.
It is only Version 6.2.0 but there is the new Version 6.2.2 available?
That's latest version available in play store or at least for my region in Galaxy store too
Oh ok I understand. In Europe (Austria)
I made the Benchmark in Geekbench 6.2.2 for my S23 Ultra 512 GB and my results are higher.
I got:
2111 in Singlecore
5526 in Multicore
This phone performs still perfect.
For sure this phone performs perfectly that's why I use it for the whole year. I hope they will not ruin it after the release of S24 Ultra.
I hope so too. I will keep my S23 Ultra and not switching to S24 Ultra for sure.
S24 Ultra will be the best phone ever with best cooling system
Totally agree and respect you brother for showing honesty.
I don't understand people and their bias for a brand.
We must fight and figure out which Brand does bring more value for the price at the table.
I'm just sick of these sheeps tha are paying overpriced products and aren't worth.
We must work together so no Brand monopolizes the market and gives overpriced and the same product with minimal upgrades.
I personally changed from Samsung to Xiaomi and now I'm preferring this gerogrus OnePlus 12.
It isn't going to break the bank and has Superb display, Build Quality and ofc the amazing 8gen3 plus🔥🔥🔥
Plus isn't over 1000€ like the most flagship are going for is its ridiculous price.
Gladly we are having some competition with different chipset like mediatek exynos and now hopefully the prices of the chipset of snapdragon and A series will go down and the users will benefit from.
Totally agree with you, but most of people when they pay 1000$ and higher price for their phones, can't agree there's something better for less.
I'm surprised that iphone storage is so slow compared to ufs 4.0 yet iphone app remain fast and fluid.
I was surprised too
Can you test brightness again ?
I am swapping my fold 4 with a one plus 12
And I really wanna know if I am dumb or not.
The screen is bright enough. Those 4500 Nits are tested in specific scenarios of HDR video in certain display areas so I can say it's a gimmick but the display is still very good
Over all s23 ultra is Great stable and consistent balance
Need to agree with you 👍
I didnt get the emui 13 update in my huawei nova 9 se ,but when i search it says huawei nova 9 se took the emui 13 update in europe,i really want this update
Shouldn’t have got an Huawei Nova phone. Huawei’s midrange isn’t just even as good as their flagships
S23U😉
A Geekbench 6 Single-Core score of 2,165 points and Multi-Core score of 6,578 points...
Was high performance mode on? If so, isn't that supposed to score at least 7,000 points in multi-core?
It's supposed but that's the reality
Hmm okay, but high performance mode was on when you ran Geekbench 6 right?@@SystemHacks
Yes it is on
Is the brightness cabinets because the OnePlus has a very bright screen that will cause it to over great at max brightness
At the beginning of the video I said brightness is set around 50%
A18pro will take the lead
said they tested this new 3nm process chip, so improvement coming next year
And Snapdragon 8 Gen 4 will be even better so the wheel is turning 👍
how it's that ? all real life performance tests shows that gen2 is even better than A17, and as iphone user I can tell you that theses phones are just garbage, it tends to lag on keyboard and has many weird performance issues, every ios update fixes issues but at the same time adds new ones, doesn't matter how the chip is powerful if the phone has no heatsink, theses temperature tests seems to be false too as I can clearly overheat my iphone in less than 30mins and it is noticeable HOT like any other phone, and when they test temperatures there is usually 3* difference which you don't feel, when samsung heats up with iphone you can even feel that iphone is hotter when you holding it, these days I don't believe what I see, i'm using phone and I know how bad it is, and A18 will be at Gen3 level in short burst test, benchmarks are not real life performance, using camera for hour, watching in the same time video or having heavy tasks in splitscreen or downing patches for game and music in the background it's something that iphone just can't compete and that's it, people like you are blindfolded by Apple go and watch Geekerwan lab tests comparison A17 to Gen2, A17 is so bad that it can't be magically fixed it's like situation with snap Gen1, so don't expect A18 to be better lol
iPhone is 200% garbage
@@ThereIsOnlyOneRandomTotally agree and respect you brother for showing honesty.
I don't understand people and their bias for a brand.
We must fight and figure out which Brand does bring more value for the price at the table.
I'm just sick of these sheeps tha are paying overpriced products and aren't worth.
We must work together so no Brand monopolizes the market and gives overpriced and the same product with minimal upgrades.
I personally changed from Samsung to Xiaomi and now I'm preferring this gerogrus OnePlus 12.
It isn't going to break the bank and has Superb display, Build Quality and ofc the amazing 8gen3 plus🔥🔥🔥
Plus isn't over 1000€ like the most flagship are going for is its ridiculous price.
Gladly we are having some competition with different chipset like mediatek exynos and now hopefully the prices of the chipset of snapdragon and A series will go down and the users will benefit from.
It’s crazy one+ still has no symmetrical bezels
Cause of the display technology which is high tech
Can't say that brothers me in any way
@@SystemHacks yea when you put on the cover the bezels cover up so you never know
so overal, SD 3 is the strongest chip but less stable then SD2 for galaxy, A17 have only best CPu performance but very unstable, SD2 for Galaxy is the most stable chip here with similar overal performance like A17..
Or just OnePlus can't make good thermals
@@SystemHacks yea in point of thermals, Ultra kiling all device, because have biggest cooling chamber and good optimize chip, also, one guy on you tube(in depth tech reviews) make video in long gaming perfomance beetwen Ultra and 15 pro max , after playing hard games makes just for phone and open you tube and google maps in same time, Iphone start throttle and game crush after 9 minutes of playing, display lose brightnes because try to save heat, and thats the new question come, how they think playing AAA games on Iphone when throttle on phone games and some open aplication after 9 minutes hard task?? also samsung have charghe option when play games, so when games start and phone is plug in, chargher dont charghe battery anymore, just directly powers device without charghing battery, no charghing no additional heating..
Apple are kings of optimization and they'll make gaming experience good. These tests In deep tech reviews like are not relevant for me, because if you want to make the device crash you can but that's not a real life scenario and that's why apple don't care about it.
it's just how the phone is assembled and software control, overall in other phones Gen3 is more stable, OnePlus isn't good anymore, anyway S24 ultra will show how stable Gen3 is and if the stability will be at 70% then it will overall perform much better than A17 or gen2, and Dinensity isn't good but GPU performance is just insane
SD 3 for Galaxy will be way stable than SD 2 For Galaxy. S24 Ultra will come with even better cooling system
On the last GPU test, the iPhone was far more sensibly optimised. It dropped to a stable rate fast and maintained that to give a consistent user experience. The iPhone is managed by software to cope with your actions. The S23U seems to be temp throttled, so as soon as it hits a temp, its performance nudges down as the system gets saturated, leading to a more jerky experience. The OnePlus is the worst; it blasts and then thermal throttles, giving an inferior user experience (see FPS differential).
For me, consistency is better, which is why the iPhone had the best stability and the OP the worst. For a 2023 chip, that was great. The S23U also did better than the OP IMHO. I will only dump on the SD8G3, even with the poor show, once we see how others perform as 2024 progresses. But it doesn't look like an upgrade that amounts to much ATM.
Definitely it's not a big upgrade from 8gen 2. For the idea of having such a powerful CPU(like apple) and throttles it immediately is nonsense. On the other hand OnePlus were never good at thermal management.
@@SystemHacks I think it is a case of what the OEM feels is best for the consumer, and a consistent experience is undoubtedly much better. If Apple was doing worse at the end of the test, you might have a point, but both the S23U and OP perform much worse for stability, and if you are playing games for 2 hours, the far superior experience will be on the iPhone. Sometimes, it is about optimisation, not bragging rights, and Apple nailed it here.
Well said. One plus is a gimmick and not really a phone in my mind. I would never stick my sim into a one plus. I am not that desperate. lol.
well phone to phone performance isn't the same, look at xiaomi tests, it goes hot but so iphone goes and iphone just can't provide the stability which xiaomi does, any these benchmarks are pointless as in real life multitasking iphone 15 pro max loses even to s23 ultra id dims faster and more than samsung and it even crashed during heavy multitasking test, and as iphone user I wonder why all benchmarks are done specifically for iphone short term performance iphone can't compete I know all weakness of IOS and iphone as i'm using it, no matter what you do iphone won't be better at performance for long term, you can play on android watch video's at the same time and overall multitasking destroys iphone just search it and you'll see that iphone isn't even close, and gen3 closed the gap even more
@@ThereIsOnlyOneRandom Most of us do not multitask, that is very niche, probably 66%) do not even play games. So sustained performance is for most irrelevant and it is the snappiness of opening an app or doing short-spurt tasks, and single core CPU is what 100% matters there. The iPhone is 30% better than the rest and for me and 95% of iPhone users that is what matters, not silly multitasking tests that no one does on a phone!
انتظر s24ultra حتى تكون المقارنة عادلة
I'm not trying to compare the brands Samsung vs OnePlus, mostly I'm trying to compare the evolution of snapdragon 8 Gen 3 over 8 Gen 2 👍
oneplus color os is just oppo 😂
where is oxygen os😢
OnePlus 12 is not globally released yet so we need to wait 😔
Oneplus 12 display very nice better than galaxy s23 utra recycled sceen
I need to agree here 👍
It should be iPhone 15 vs OnePlus 12 because of the same price not the pro model
Sadly I can't buy every phone out there. And global prices of OnePlus 12 are scarry
@@SystemHacks can't you get it on rent or a review unit?
S23 ultra is at a heavy disadvantage lol
Oneplus is better 😉
Animation king 👑 oneplus 1 , iPhone 2 and Samsung's i didn't like this phone now a days
You hate apple
Why you think so?
The antutu and 8gen3 its total bullshit fake.😂 check animation when tested antutu. On oneplus 12 fuckin lags, and on a s23ultra soo much smooth and oneplus soo much better score? How? 😂😂 8gen3 its fuckin joke, not 25% better than 8gen3. Its about 10% worst most trottling and draw more power consumption. Im happy when i buy on february 2023 my s23ultra. Verry good decision. But respect on 15 pro max. Verry good camera detsils zooming.
Don't judge early, non of the gen 3 are official yet
@IR_40 bro
i bought it
it is FUCKIN AMAZINGLY INSANE
I am happy I ditched my s23 ultra and fold 4 for this masterpiece
but ... I wanna get rid of the color os
i am not good at these technicalities but
i hope i find someone who can help.
and for the camera
holy shit one plus has insane camera
it made me happy and satiafied
You should speak in your language.
Your English is very hard to listen to
You can always mute the video 👍
iPhone 15 Pro Max is a Beast 🚀
In ur dreams right got it
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😊
you need switch one plus in performance mode
Did you watch the video?