@@Mrtrojano I wanted so many xiaomi and oneplus high end phones. Yet I could never get used to the curved screens. The only phone that has a curve but seems and feels flat is the s23u.
Its simple bro- if you're rich and want class its S24 ultra. If you're relatively poor and want the china copy, its One Plus. Rich ones buy the Rolls Royce, poor ones buy the Toyota
I don't feel that the curved glass is dated. In fact, I absolutely hate the flat slab Flintstone phones that seem to be all the rage. The curved glass makes it far more ergonomic. That's important when you consider that this phone is rather large. The flat edge phones are very difficult to hold comfortably. I'm glad that one plus resisted the tide and stuck with their design language.
I can see that. Many prefer the curved displays for me, I just have never been a fan honestly. I go without a case most of the time so for me It makes it a bit more difficult to hold/use in various scenarios but I do like it for consuming media etc..
@@drewlipps as they say, to each their own. Personally, I always use a case. In my opinion, phones cost way too much money not to protect them. Not to mention, I don't like getting them scratched up.
Understand that completely. I work from home, rarely leave the house lol so for me I'm rarely in a situation where my phone may fall, drop, etc.. I also have a manufacturing background and just appreciate the design, build, and hardware to cover with a case. This is where I do prefer Samsung, Apple, and Google in the US at least because of their support for display protection, etc.. Though Google and Samsung aren't nearly as great at offering Apple's AppleCare+, it is better than nothing for sure if something happens to your phone. @@dr.fitprofessor1970
@@drewlipps indeed, that's why I carry insurance. Lol. In fact, it practically makes repair unneeded. I use SquareTrade Allstate insurance and I've never had an issue. Most of the time, they just replace your device. I'm afraid cases are mandatory with me. I am a professor of exercise physiology and biomechanics at a major university here in southern california. However, I am also a professional trainer that spends a lot of time getting bumped around in the gym. Not to mention, I am a former NCAA division 1 wrestler of some note. To this day, I am still active on the mat.
The reality is if you have a OnePlus after you're done with 4 years of updates you can still use a ROM especially if you load something like lineage ROM
The OnePlus 12 has 4 years of OS updates and 5 years of security updates. That's plenty long for most of us because by 5 years we are wanting a new device even if we don't need one.
@@Bahar-vq8jrI got my OnePlus 12 three months ago and it's a really good phone. I showed it to my friends and all of them said it looked stunning. The performance is top-notch and the camera is truly underrated. The camera is really good with minor tweaks and for the average user I would easily suggest the 12. If curved edges are an issue, go for a case because I use a case on it which will eliminates all phantom touches. If cases aren't preferred then just get the OnePlus 13 I guess
@warchild6367 doesn't matter. All those specs and the software experience isn't even close. Crazy to brag about all that tech just for it to have no real impact on the user experience of the phone.
Oneplus is a great phone , I'm a diehard fan of samsung but my father purchased oneplus recently, i like its user interface better, it is fluid and responsive. The ergonomics are far better even with the aftermarket cases installed . To be honest the display on OnePlus is on par with an iPhone that will cost 3 to 4 times .
If you wanna keep it on the long term it is the opposit. Quality build of Oneplus is on an other league. And even if you need to repair it, it will be waaaaay cheaper and easier to achieve. ALL the spare parts of my 7pro still are sold by Oneplus for a very reasonable price.
That's incorrect now. OnePlus parts are far more expensive now. 200$+ screens alone. They lost so much market share with the 10T it made their parts market tank. Not to mention most repair places won't work on them sadly
OnePlus12 just feels NICE. The design is absolutely amazing and eyecatching vs the 24U clinical design... so tempted to get it and keep my note 20 as back up (for spen and dex!)
Fingerprint unlock is way better on the Oneplus. So is face unlock. Ultrasonic is overrated. Never works as good as optical. Although it's supposed to be more secure.
Really? Fingerprint sensors seem identical in terms of performance to me. Both are quick, including Samsungs ultrasonic. Face unlock for OnePlus is fast but just not quite sure how secure it truly is.
Samsung Resale value in India is really bad for the trade-ins. I do think Software Support for the Samsung is gimmicky in a way as People are quick to adopt different gadgets within a year than wait for 7 years. Samsung is famous to deliver a lag post 1 to 2 year of Usage.
12R is pretty great value, I recommend the 12R over the Nothing Phone (2), Pixel 7a, Pixel 8, and a handful of similar devices within that price range. However when comparing to the S24 series, it's hard for me to recommend the 12R for example due to long term value. With OnePlus you get less trade in value long term, updates (at least in the US) are inconsistent with OnePlus, accessories like cases for example are limited, etc.. It get's harder to recommend the more OnePlus seems to stray from North America. Globally that may differ of course but I'm in the US, basing it off what I personally see happening here.
@drewlipps I got s21 ultra im deciding 12 or 12R I don't care about the cameras or the wireless charging, care about the battery the most and haptics and sound. What your advice?
If you trade in your S21U you'll get 550$ from Samsung towards the Ultra before discounts you'd be at 640$, for the OnePlus 12 you'd get 270$ trading in your same S21U, brining the OnePlus 12 to about 530$. The OnePlus 12R would be $329 with that same trade in value of $270. For the most value OnePlus 12 may be your best bet since you get great battery, fast charging, fast wireless charging, etc.. Otherwise S24U to S21U is a more seamless upgrade given similar OS, great support, etc.. @@timofeyo4002
I took advantage of the trade in any phone any condition for $100 off the OnePlus 12, and they did the upgraded ram (16gb) and storage (512 GB) for no charge currently. Getting that version for $699 vs the s24 for $1414. It's literally less than half the price right now. The trade in value on the s24 will be higher (as it should be at that price point), but that's assuming your phone isn't damaged or broken.
@@c0wbaitlol, nobody paid $1414 for the ultra. I got the 512 gb s24 ultra for $700 with a free tablet. With my 7 years of support (which is miles better than OnePlus), and an overall better phone I will take my deal over OnePlus any day. Plus it is nice to go away from that curved screen to a proper screen protector and better cases.
im finding it really hard to decide what to do. i just bought a s24u and im thinking to return it and get oneplus12. but that curved screen is my main issue. s24u has an incredible display but its so expensive.
It is pretty difficult to make the decision between the two, though I will say right now there are excellent deals on the S24 Ultra bringing the price down a lot, especially if you have a device to trade in.
Pretty much the unboxing experience for everything that price range here in the US at least except for the OnePlus 12. Sony doesn't even include cables anymore with some of the Xperia phones, just the phone and documentation lol
Oneplus 12 - cheaper, faster charge, nicer to hold on 1 hand S24 Ultra - better screen looks and design (flat, antiglare, more ppi...), better camera and zoom, LEAPS better speakers (the same as S23U, which is on par with iP16pm speakers), spen, somewhat better battery life, longer Android support...
Used the OnePlus 7pro and 8 pro for years then went to a S23 ultra and now s24 ultra, the flat screen and the Anti glare tech that the s24 ultra has is a must now for me . Hopefully the OnePlus 13 has enough upgrades for me to go back to OnePlus.
OnePlus 12 just simply packs more overall value. Great super bright fast display, fast processor, great design, good cameras overall, and includes the super fast charger in the box.
Yeah but honestly it’s not as easy to service a Samsung unless you live near solid repair places or a certified center. If you want a device specially for the best service apple and iPhone is really the only truly solid option with AppleCare. Samsung care is the stuff of nightmares unfortunately.
2 years of updates, an s pen and a telephoto lens is literally not worth the insane price difference between these 2 devices. Anyway you slice it the S24U is poor value next to the OP12.
I don't know why finding a case for the OnePlus 12 would be an issue. I have owned many OnePlus devices and I've never struggled to find a high-quality case from a major manufacturer. This would include manufacturers such as otterbox, poetic, spigen, uag, Tudia and let's not forget OnePlus's own high quality bumper cases. After all, it's not like we're talking about a xiaomi device. I would also like to address the updates. Samsung may have matched Google with 7 years of updates but, who is really going to use the same device for 7 years? At the rate of technological advances in the smartphone market, not too many people. To that end, I am perfectly fine with the four years of OS updates with 5 years of security patches available on the OnePlus 12. After all, Samsung up until recently offered the same update timetable. Frankly, 7 years of updates sounds more like a marketing tactic than a practical application.
Would be nice though (at least in North America) if they actually sent us the updates 🫠 still on November. Years ago oneplus prioritized pushing updates consistently but over the years stopped doing so, and stopped focusing really much at all on this market. NA feels like an afterthought now unfortunately.
In terms of what I mentioned about ‘support’ it was more specifically aimed at being able to get actual customer service, repairs, etc in North America. It is nice to see 7 years of updates but most people will never keep that phone for that long (average upgrade is nearly 3 years for all consumers). However Samsung is way more consistent with their updates than OnePlus. OnePlus has really slowed at pushing updates to NA.
@@drewlipps personally, I think every other month for a security patch is fine. Once more, that's exactly what they advertise so, it's not like they're hiding anything. In addition, you also have to consider that Samsung is a much larger corporation than BBK. As a result, they have more resources. Another huge difference is the fact that BBK has four highly unique smartphone brands to promote. Out of those four brands, 1 + is the only one that is on all seven continents. Some of those other brands are not even available in North america. There are two completely different corporate philosophies at work. As far as support is concerned, I've never really had an issue with oneplus. I usually call their toll free number and explain the issue and eventually the problem gets solved. Not to mention, I always look at things through the prism of insurance. If there is a huge problem I just make a claim and have done with it.
@@dr.fitprofessor1970 I’m gonna have it 7 years😅 Just switching from an iPhone 8 plus….think that was about that long ago😇😁 (Oh, and my life was still good without upgrading my phone all this time, only the last year battery issues….)
Way ahead in charging speed? Way ahead in display? Way ahead in having a charger and a case in box? Way ahead in battery life or way ahead in camera quality with over saturated photos? Dont be a fan boy. Both of these devices have their pros n cons. I have used the s23 ultra and currently using op12 and both have their own strengths and issues.
@@dr.sanket how is op12 camera in comparison to s23 ultra? I m planning to switch from s23 ultra to op12. Camera quality is paramount importance for me
@@kashifkhan-xh9jq the difference between s23u and OnePlus 12 won't be that significant as compared to op12 and the newest s24u or other flagships. So a minor difference
With OnePlus their actual service / support (at least in North America) is pretty terrible. If you need to reach out to support etc. it's not ideal. Samsung has actual support that's proven to be pretty solid (not AppleCare+ level support but pretty solid overall). Plus there's actual Samsung locations you can physically go to for replacements/break fix. Long term as well updates are not only 7 years, but consistent. In the US especially OnePlus is gradually becoming more and more inconsistent with updates. Updates hit other markets with NA units not receiving updates for much later. It just feels like (at least in NA) OnePlus looks at this market as more of an afterthought now versus being as hyper focused on this market as before. Trade in values especially long term with OnePlus are barely existent at Best Buy, carriers, etc. here in the US also. You basically can only trade in back to OnePlus but don't always get the best deals where with Samsung they're constantly offering excellent trade in incentives.
yeah OnePlus in India specifically has really prioritized the market there, totally agree by market this will differ for sure. In the US lately though just feels like OnePlus has completely shifted focus here. Which is fine, the OnePlus 12 is still an absolute beast and excellent device, BUT while the S24U is more expensive (which most in the US never pay MSRP for a Samsung) I feel like long term here you get better value. My SIM is still in the OnePlus 12 though, there's a lot to like there. @@akshaysom
I've had many Samsung devices ultra 23, ultra 20, flip 5 and their newest laptop. I can say, customer service is terrible at best!! I had to drive over an hour to the California Samsung store so I could speak to someone in person. Just picked up a OnePlus 12 and I'm in love!!
OnePlus 12 is a solid phone for sure. That's crazy, I've had the opposite experience with Samsung but I swap devices quite often. The one issue I have with OnePlus is also inconsistent updates. They really prioritize every other market and just seems like it takes forever for OnePlus updates to drop here. Long term software support is simply better on Samsung devices but if you had a bad support experience, totally get it. OnePlus 12 is certainly still a great device I just see more long term value in the S24U in comparison personally. My sim of course is in the OnePlus 12 though :) @@michaelraull6861
Battery life isnt as good as they promote. I get 1.5 days max. Thats with typing haptics off, airplane mode on during sleep, auto brightness off, strandard screen resolution, and standard (60Hz) refresh rate. Still only 1.5 days.
Battery is amazing for sure. Not only does it last easily 1-2 days easily, charges incredibly fast. I also type without haptics but they are great haptics.
Not a huge fan of samsungs software. Not a huge fan of oneplus rounded screen its so fragile. As far as resale value i just picked up a like new s24 ultra 256gb for $350usd so it dosnt mean much to me tbh. The ultimate phone in my opinion would be the s24 ultra with oxygen os on it
@@CREEBANDZ510 why do u think so? The camera is better (one plus) the performance is equal (one plus)and on Samsung the os is better. The price doesn’t matter and one plusis better; now with price its even better because i can get a one plus 12 for 549.
The reason why I left Samsung and I have had everything from the Note 2 all the way to the note 9 was because they stopped including the charger after they got rid of the MicroSD card expansion and and the 3.5mm headphone jack. That being said if there's nothing that differentiates you from the competition and you're taking all the extras away and charging the most premium price and maybe I should go for look for somebody who can go and give me more for my money
Well it’s nice when inside the box it comes with a fast charging brick and cable versus just a cheap cable most never even use. There’s added value in the inclusion of this, coupled with the fast charging capability.
One Plus screws up their older phones through their updates. So over time as your phone gets 1, 2 or 3 years old, OP will push updates that will cause the phones to heat up, they'll lose features that were previously there and if things get really bad, you also get green line on your display rendering them practically useless. As a current One Plus 8T user, I am speaking from personal experience.
BS, I'm a OnePlus 7 Pro owner since its release. Not a single hiccup, battery 1 day +, never, ever overheated - the only reason I'm chaging it is cuz it doesn't have eSim. Will be getting the OnePlus 13 which I'll be using for maybe a full decade.
@@finderskeepers7293 Nobody paid me anything. I wish they would have honestly, since it's somewhat fun to disprove your allegations about the phone's quality in general - and get paid for it in the process. Just because you had problems with your phone but the 95% rest of us didn't - doesn't mean the phone's not good. I am talking from my own personal experience. Whether you believe it or not that's your problem, not mine. I am not a Chinese products lover either but hands down this phone's amazing - I won't even mention its name again just to disprove your point. P.S Don't forget to drop the "paid by - that specific company - card on the other 95% who had good experiences with this phone. P.P.S Sorry for your bad experience with it. All the best.
@@jonjones27one plus 11 or moto edge plus 2023 or s24 ultra; please DONT take price into consideration i only want to know about proformance and camera(very importent) ; i heard good things about one plus then i hear things like this
@@ryugaforever7713 So, my family members have motorola, not sure which model but it's ok. The best is Samsung no doubt. But I am personally not willing to pay $500+ for a samsung just to get the very best when OnePlus gives you 90% same specs(for 500 usd less-depending on where you live). Just my 2 cents.
Man I used s22 ultra. Wanted the 24 ultra. But went with the OnePlus 12. And man o man I don't regret it. The comfort is so important. The monstrous battery life. The beautiful display, the smoothness, the price to performance, the great camera, the software not as good as one UI but still great. Love it. Oh and the charging speed. 🫡
The 700$ price difference makes this one easy for me😊
@jonnycarlson9555 I just paid $700 for the s24 ultra so for the price I paid s24 ultra is a no brainer.
@@yesmyman2950 Here in Sweden the S24 Ultra costs 1700$. For me that's also a no brainer.
@@jonnycarlson9555 without thinking the price I will pick Samsung all day because of the brand
@@jonnycarlson9555 second hand S24u in my country is 900$ and op12 is 700$. But... There's s23u for 600$ and it's just great.
I will pick the OnePlus 12
Same cause have the OnePlus 12
@@Mrtrojano why?
@@Mrtrojano I wanted so many xiaomi and oneplus high end phones. Yet I could never get used to the curved screens. The only phone that has a curve but seems and feels flat is the s23u.
Yeah for the price the phone is 🔥🔥
every reviewer ends by saying "you can't go wrong with either of these" ....
It's true though, both are excellent options depending on your various needs. SIM for me is in the OnePlus 12 at the moment.
Its simple bro- if you're rich and want class its S24 ultra. If you're relatively poor and want the china copy, its One Plus. Rich ones buy the Rolls Royce, poor ones buy the Toyota
I don't feel that the curved glass is dated. In fact, I absolutely hate the flat slab Flintstone phones that seem to be all the rage. The curved glass makes it far more ergonomic. That's important when you consider that this phone is rather large. The flat edge phones are very difficult to hold comfortably. I'm glad that one plus resisted the tide and stuck with their design language.
I can see that. Many prefer the curved displays for me, I just have never been a fan honestly. I go without a case most of the time so for me It makes it a bit more difficult to hold/use in various scenarios but I do like it for consuming media etc..
@@drewlipps as they say, to each their own. Personally, I always use a case. In my opinion, phones cost way too much money not to protect them. Not to mention, I don't like getting them scratched up.
Understand that completely. I work from home, rarely leave the house lol so for me I'm rarely in a situation where my phone may fall, drop, etc.. I also have a manufacturing background and just appreciate the design, build, and hardware to cover with a case. This is where I do prefer Samsung, Apple, and Google in the US at least because of their support for display protection, etc.. Though Google and Samsung aren't nearly as great at offering Apple's AppleCare+, it is better than nothing for sure if something happens to your phone. @@dr.fitprofessor1970
@@drewlipps indeed, that's why I carry insurance. Lol. In fact, it practically makes repair unneeded. I use SquareTrade Allstate insurance and I've never had an issue. Most of the time, they just replace your device.
I'm afraid cases are mandatory with me. I am a professor of exercise physiology and biomechanics at a major university here in southern california. However, I am also a professional trainer that spends a lot of time getting bumped around in the gym. Not to mention, I am a former NCAA division 1 wrestler of some note. To this day, I am still active on the mat.
@@drewlipps I use curved screens. And I don't use cases. Don't see any problems here. Flat screens look cheap and outdated.
The reality is if you have a OnePlus after you're done with 4 years of updates you can still use a ROM especially if you load something like lineage ROM
what is rom
Google is your friend@@lovepreetlarrysingh4243
@@lovepreetlarrysingh4243 your mom, not rom.
The OnePlus 12 has 4 years of OS updates and 5 years of security updates. That's plenty long for most of us because by 5 years we are wanting a new device even if we don't need one.
Does it mean I could install OxygenOS 14 on my 7pro?
I bought the OnePlus 12. I just think I'm going to have more fun with the OnePlus.
@@meowmixes98 hey bro,what about now ?!how is it working, cause I’m not sure weather go for s24u or plus 12
@@Bahar-vq8jrI got my OnePlus 12 three months ago and it's a really good phone. I showed it to my friends and all of them said it looked stunning. The performance is top-notch and the camera is truly underrated. The camera is really good with minor tweaks and for the average user I would easily suggest the 12. If curved edges are an issue, go for a case because I use a case on it which will eliminates all phantom touches. If cases aren't preferred then just get the OnePlus 13 I guess
First time I'm back to Oneplus since the 5t and I'm happy the alert slider is right where it was on my 5t.
Right ?! So good! 5T was pretty solid.
I am switching to the 12 from my Oneplus 6t. I had the S24 Ultra for 1.5 weeks but decided to send it back. For that price i do expect more
I'm enjoying with my S24 ultra and traded 15 pro max.
Hell no one plus 12 is a beast with 80w charging.
I love OnePlus too but they need to redesign their os a bit other than that it is a good phone.@@warchild6367
@warchild6367 doesn't matter. All those specs and the software experience isn't even close. Crazy to brag about all that tech just for it to have no real impact on the user experience of the phone.
@@jordanjackson8873 one UI is more customizable but OxygenOs for sure is a smoother interface
@@jordanjackson8873 For me, OxygenOs is much better.... OneUI is not as smooth.
Oneplus is a great phone , I'm a diehard fan of samsung but my father purchased oneplus recently, i like its user interface better, it is fluid and responsive. The ergonomics are far better even with the aftermarket cases installed . To be honest the display on OnePlus is on par with an iPhone that will cost 3 to 4 times .
Oneplus 12 anytime for the price to performance ratio 😊
Plenty of cases from Logan + 12 to include the poetic cases because they're very secure very safe very protective
If you wanna keep it on the long term it is the opposit. Quality build of Oneplus is on an other league. And even if you need to repair it, it will be waaaaay cheaper and easier to achieve. ALL the spare parts of my 7pro still are sold by Oneplus for a very reasonable price.
That's incorrect now. OnePlus parts are far more expensive now. 200$+ screens alone. They lost so much market share with the 10T it made their parts market tank. Not to mention most repair places won't work on them sadly
OnePlus12 just feels NICE. The design is absolutely amazing and eyecatching vs the 24U clinical design... so tempted to get it and keep my note 20 as back up (for spen and dex!)
Oneplus 12 is vastly superior.
Curve screen or not 700$ is a lot of money to spare for my kids.
Fingerprint unlock is way better on the Oneplus. So is face unlock. Ultrasonic is overrated. Never works as good as optical. Although it's supposed to be more secure.
Really? Fingerprint sensors seem identical in terms of performance to me. Both are quick, including Samsungs ultrasonic. Face unlock for OnePlus is fast but just not quite sure how secure it truly is.
I have both and for sure the OnePlus has a faster and more consistent fingerprint sensor.
@@nestorpujols2919 I absolutely agree. OP finger print has been on another level since 7 pro. I had each one since 6t McLaren.
@@davidbrown6137 I have the 7Pro and the fingerprint is a mess. Out of 5 attempts there are two or three failed unlocks
So my 24 ultra had issues with the screen. Samsung’s customer support was not helpful at all. I returned it and the oneplus just arrived today.
Oh dang, curious how you feel about the oneplus?
Had the same issues as well. Returned it and got the OnePlus 12
I have the op 12 and I love it
What issues with the s24u display?
@@chevronwestwood S24u has colour banding issues and grainy screen due to their anti reflective coating. Hence s23u are more vivid than the s24u.
Samsung really need to bring back the IR blaster back
I just paid $700 for the s24 ultra so for that price I paid its a no brainer.
Excellent deal
@@yesmyman2950 where do you live, fam. Its almost $400 more here
Samsung Resale value in India is really bad for the trade-ins.
I do think Software Support for the Samsung is gimmicky in a way as People are quick to adopt different gadgets within a year than wait for 7 years. Samsung is famous to deliver a lag post 1 to 2 year of Usage.
Good thing we don’t live there.
What about 12R?
12R is pretty great value, I recommend the 12R over the Nothing Phone (2), Pixel 7a, Pixel 8, and a handful of similar devices within that price range. However when comparing to the S24 series, it's hard for me to recommend the 12R for example due to long term value. With OnePlus you get less trade in value long term, updates (at least in the US) are inconsistent with OnePlus, accessories like cases for example are limited, etc.. It get's harder to recommend the more OnePlus seems to stray from North America. Globally that may differ of course but I'm in the US, basing it off what I personally see happening here.
@drewlipps I got s21 ultra im deciding 12 or 12R I don't care about the cameras or the wireless charging, care about the battery the most and haptics and sound. What your advice?
If you trade in your S21U you'll get 550$ from Samsung towards the Ultra before discounts you'd be at 640$, for the OnePlus 12 you'd get 270$ trading in your same S21U, brining the OnePlus 12 to about 530$. The OnePlus 12R would be $329 with that same trade in value of $270. For the most value OnePlus 12 may be your best bet since you get great battery, fast charging, fast wireless charging, etc.. Otherwise S24U to S21U is a more seamless upgrade given similar OS, great support, etc.. @@timofeyo4002
I took advantage of the trade in any phone any condition for $100 off the OnePlus 12, and they did the upgraded ram (16gb) and storage (512 GB) for no charge currently. Getting that version for $699 vs the s24 for $1414. It's literally less than half the price right now. The trade in value on the s24 will be higher (as it should be at that price point), but that's assuming your phone isn't damaged or broken.
@@c0wbaitlol, nobody paid $1414 for the ultra. I got the 512 gb s24 ultra for $700 with a free tablet. With my 7 years of support (which is miles better than OnePlus), and an overall better phone I will take my deal over OnePlus any day. Plus it is nice to go away from that curved screen to a proper screen protector and better cases.
im finding it really hard to decide what to do. i just bought a s24u and im thinking to return it and get oneplus12. but that curved screen is my main issue. s24u has an incredible display but its so expensive.
It is pretty difficult to make the decision between the two, though I will say right now there are excellent deals on the S24 Ultra bringing the price down a lot, especially if you have a device to trade in.
I am confused between OnePlus 12 and Galaxy S23 ultra (not S 24 ultra ), for long-term usage which can be the better choice in overall perspective?
S23 ultra for sure in terms of updates, overall long term resale / trade in values, etc
@@drewlipps thank you 😊
Where is the wallpaper from?
Backdrops app
@@drewlipps thanks mate 💁🇩🇪
The unboxing experience of the s24 Ultra is just laughable for that price
Pretty much the unboxing experience for everything that price range here in the US at least except for the OnePlus 12. Sony doesn't even include cables anymore with some of the Xperia phones, just the phone and documentation lol
@@drewlipps might as well buy used at this point.
I'd get the Oneplus 13. Scamsung phones are overpriced asf.
Love my s24 ultra. Great power and the fact it can be a mini laptop when using dex. Gg and the camera.
Dex is so underrated, love it.
Oneplus 12 - cheaper, faster charge, nicer to hold on 1 hand
S24 Ultra - better screen looks and design (flat, antiglare, more ppi...), better camera and zoom, LEAPS better speakers (the same as S23U, which is on par with iP16pm speakers), spen, somewhat better battery life, longer Android support...
Used the OnePlus 7pro and 8 pro for years then went to a S23 ultra and now s24 ultra, the flat screen and the Anti glare tech that the s24 ultra has is a must now for me . Hopefully the OnePlus 13 has enough upgrades for me to go back to OnePlus.
What's the better choice between OnePlus 12 and S23 (256GB varient) ?
OnePlus 12 just simply packs more overall value. Great super bright fast display, fast processor, great design, good cameras overall, and includes the super fast charger in the box.
S24 ultra > oneplus 12 > s23 ultra
What no one talks about is cost of repair, parts availability, and finding repair centers. Oneplus has a 200+$ screen and hardly snyone repairs them
Yeah but honestly it’s not as easy to service a Samsung unless you live near solid repair places or a certified center. If you want a device specially for the best service apple and iPhone is really the only truly solid option with AppleCare. Samsung care is the stuff of nightmares unfortunately.
2 years of updates, an s pen and a telephoto lens is literally not worth the insane price difference between these 2 devices. Anyway you slice it the S24U is poor value next to the OP12.
I don't know why finding a case for the OnePlus 12 would be an issue. I have owned many OnePlus devices and I've never struggled to find a high-quality case from a major manufacturer. This would include manufacturers such as otterbox, poetic, spigen, uag, Tudia and let's not forget OnePlus's own high quality bumper cases. After all, it's not like we're talking about a xiaomi device.
I would also like to address the updates. Samsung may have matched Google with 7 years of updates but, who is really going to use the same device for 7 years? At the rate of technological advances in the smartphone market, not too many people. To that end, I am perfectly fine with the four years of OS updates with 5 years of security patches available on the OnePlus 12. After all, Samsung up until recently offered the same update timetable. Frankly, 7 years of updates sounds more like a marketing tactic than a practical application.
Would be nice though (at least in North America) if they actually sent us the updates 🫠 still on November. Years ago oneplus prioritized pushing updates consistently but over the years stopped doing so, and stopped focusing really much at all on this market. NA feels like an afterthought now unfortunately.
In terms of what I mentioned about ‘support’ it was more specifically aimed at being able to get actual customer service, repairs, etc in North America. It is nice to see 7 years of updates but most people will never keep that phone for that long (average upgrade is nearly 3 years for all consumers). However Samsung is way more consistent with their updates than OnePlus. OnePlus has really slowed at pushing updates to NA.
@@guptaanurag286it’s actually not even FOMO, most upgrade on average every 3 years. Primarily due to battery / wear and tear.
@@drewlipps personally, I think every other month for a security patch is fine. Once more, that's exactly what they advertise so, it's not like they're hiding anything. In addition, you also have to consider that Samsung is a much larger corporation than BBK. As a result, they have more resources. Another huge difference is the fact that BBK has four highly unique smartphone brands to promote. Out of those four brands, 1 + is the only one that is on all seven continents. Some of those other brands are not even available in North america. There are two completely different corporate philosophies at work.
As far as support is concerned, I've never really had an issue with oneplus. I usually call their toll free number and explain the issue and eventually the problem gets solved. Not to mention, I always look at things through the prism of insurance. If there is a huge problem I just make a claim and have done with it.
@@dr.fitprofessor1970 I’m gonna have it 7 years😅 Just switching from an iPhone 8 plus….think that was about that long ago😇😁
(Oh, and my life was still good without upgrading my phone all this time, only the last year battery issues….)
Already chosen OnePlus 12
gotta change phones, i always had samsungs and love them all but that oneplus is very tempting lol I think ill try it out
Using the OnePlus it has been great so far
Oneplus 12 black vs green.. which is better 🤔
Black to me personally
@@anandraj.p0406 green for me. Looks beauty.
I have both of them 😊
Best of both worlds!
Same. I'm using my 12 more.
@@Princeton_James can you compare them in real life?
There is no comparison between these two phone because samsung 24 ultra is way ahead and better than OnePlus 12
Way ahead in charging speed? Way ahead in display? Way ahead in having a charger and a case in box? Way ahead in battery life or way ahead in camera quality with over saturated photos? Dont be a fan boy. Both of these devices have their pros n cons. I have used the s23 ultra and currently using op12 and both have their own strengths and issues.
@@dr.sanket how is op12 camera in comparison to s23 ultra? I m planning to switch from s23 ultra to op12. Camera quality is paramount importance for me
@@kashifkhan-xh9jq the difference between s23u and OnePlus 12 won't be that significant as compared to op12 and the newest s24u or other flagships. So a minor difference
What is the extra long term support that we gonna get with s24 which op12 lags , other than 7y software support?
With OnePlus their actual service / support (at least in North America) is pretty terrible. If you need to reach out to support etc. it's not ideal. Samsung has actual support that's proven to be pretty solid (not AppleCare+ level support but pretty solid overall). Plus there's actual Samsung locations you can physically go to for replacements/break fix. Long term as well updates are not only 7 years, but consistent. In the US especially OnePlus is gradually becoming more and more inconsistent with updates. Updates hit other markets with NA units not receiving updates for much later. It just feels like (at least in NA) OnePlus looks at this market as more of an afterthought now versus being as hyper focused on this market as before.
Trade in values especially long term with OnePlus are barely existent at Best Buy, carriers, etc. here in the US also. You basically can only trade in back to OnePlus but don't always get the best deals where with Samsung they're constantly offering excellent trade in incentives.
@@drewlipps hmm ... Yes it will vary by region, in India i guess its ok with service and we have stores
yeah OnePlus in India specifically has really prioritized the market there, totally agree by market this will differ for sure. In the US lately though just feels like OnePlus has completely shifted focus here. Which is fine, the OnePlus 12 is still an absolute beast and excellent device, BUT while the S24U is more expensive (which most in the US never pay MSRP for a Samsung) I feel like long term here you get better value. My SIM is still in the OnePlus 12 though, there's a lot to like there. @@akshaysom
I've had many Samsung devices ultra 23, ultra 20, flip 5 and their newest laptop. I can say, customer service is terrible at best!! I had to drive over an hour to the California Samsung store so I could speak to someone in person. Just picked up a OnePlus 12 and I'm in love!!
OnePlus 12 is a solid phone for sure. That's crazy, I've had the opposite experience with Samsung but I swap devices quite often. The one issue I have with OnePlus is also inconsistent updates. They really prioritize every other market and just seems like it takes forever for OnePlus updates to drop here. Long term software support is simply better on Samsung devices but if you had a bad support experience, totally get it. OnePlus 12 is certainly still a great device I just see more long term value in the S24U in comparison personally. My sim of course is in the OnePlus 12 though :) @@michaelraull6861
Battery life isnt as good as they promote. I get 1.5 days max. Thats with typing haptics off, airplane mode on during sleep, auto brightness off, strandard screen resolution, and standard (60Hz) refresh rate. Still only 1.5 days.
Battery is amazing for sure. Not only does it last easily 1-2 days easily, charges incredibly fast. I also type without haptics but they are great haptics.
If u wana see the real champ,,play Dolby vision videos ,,u will see samsung galaxy series getting banged by Oneplus
Is 1 and a half days bad?? lol
I agree, my 7pro had better battery life when it was new.
@@Broski__ No. But in proportion with its 5400mah battery, it is disapointing
Not a huge fan of samsungs software. Not a huge fan of oneplus rounded screen its so fragile. As far as resale value i just picked up a like new s24 ultra 256gb for $350usd so it dosnt mean much to me tbh. The ultimate phone in my opinion would be the s24 ultra with oxygen os on it
That would be awesome honestly. Solid combo if only it was possible.
Watching on OnePlus 12 i love it ❤
Honestly the Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra makes the One Plus 12 look and feel so weak in comparison. It's not even close.
@@CREEBANDZ510 why do u think so? The camera is better (one plus) the performance is equal (one plus)and on Samsung the os is better. The price doesn’t matter and one plusis better; now with price its even better because i can get a one plus 12 for 549.
Please share wallpaper link ❤
Backdrops app , top wallpapers
@@drewlipps thanks man 😊
@@Gmr239 One4Wall is also good
Don't need spen
The reason why I left Samsung and I have had everything from the Note 2 all the way to the note 9 was because they stopped including the charger after they got rid of the MicroSD card expansion and and the 3.5mm headphone jack. That being said if there's nothing that differentiates you from the competition and you're taking all the extras away and charging the most premium price and maybe I should go for look for somebody who can go and give me more for my money
Makes total sense.
Which do you like the most and why?
I bought the s24 ultra
S24 ultra is worth of price i think, insane that it has the same price as an iphone...
Sure all Xiaomi bZeen having it blaster
Wish we got them in the US with global software
that fat bezel on the s24U tho.. didnt notice it before now
Turn Auto brightness oncif you re outside in the sun!!!
Yeah toggled off in the video
When it's full brightness manually, the peak bringtness doesn't come on?
@@mpa324 it does but it will keep adjusting , I just disable and kept at max
@@drewlipps why didn't you do auto on both in direct sun?
It's on and off in the video actually, I turned it off mid video. Personally though I keep it off in my usage.@@davidbrown6137
? Who cares about the box man. Cmon
Well it’s nice when inside the box it comes with a fast charging brick and cable versus just a cheap cable most never even use. There’s added value in the inclusion of this, coupled with the fast charging capability.
@drewlipps yea I know. Lol I bought one. I thought they forgot to give me another box.
One Plus screws up their older phones through their updates. So over time as your phone gets 1, 2 or 3 years old, OP will push updates that will cause the phones to heat up, they'll lose features that were previously there and if things get really bad, you also get green line on your display rendering them practically useless.
As a current One Plus 8T user, I am speaking from personal experience.
BS, I'm a OnePlus 7 Pro owner since its release. Not a single hiccup, battery 1 day +, never, ever overheated - the only reason I'm chaging it is cuz it doesn't have eSim. Will be getting the OnePlus 13 which I'll be using for maybe a full decade.
@@jonjones27 How much did One Plus pay you to write that?
It happened to my 5T and now the 8T. So keep your BS to yourself bud.
@@finderskeepers7293 Nobody paid me anything. I wish they would have honestly, since it's somewhat fun to disprove your allegations about the phone's quality in general - and get paid for it in the process. Just because you had problems with your phone but the 95% rest of us didn't - doesn't mean the phone's not good. I am talking from my own personal experience. Whether you believe it or not that's your problem, not mine. I am not a Chinese products lover either but hands down this phone's amazing - I won't even mention its name again just to disprove your point. P.S Don't forget to drop the "paid by - that specific company - card on the other 95% who had good experiences with this phone. P.P.S Sorry for your bad experience with it. All the best.
@@jonjones27one plus 11 or moto edge plus 2023 or s24 ultra; please DONT take price into consideration i only want to know about proformance and camera(very importent) ; i heard good things about one plus then i hear things like this
@@ryugaforever7713 So, my family members have motorola, not sure which model but it's ok. The best is Samsung no doubt. But I am personally not willing to pay $500+ for a samsung just to get the very best when OnePlus gives you 90% same specs(for 500 usd less-depending on where you live). Just my 2 cents.
One 12
Samsung hangs after 1 year or 80% storage full ..blindly prefer OnePlus
Literally man OP 12 looking beautiful
Man I used s22 ultra. Wanted the 24 ultra. But went with the OnePlus 12. And man o man I don't regret it. The comfort is so important. The monstrous battery life. The beautiful display, the smoothness, the price to performance, the great camera, the software not as good as one UI but still great. Love it. Oh and the charging speed. 🫡
hey, you manage full day with one charge? If yes, what settings, brightness etc?