My experience as a black male in Corporate America | Corey Jones
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- So i've been technically working in corporate America since 2018. I started at Deloitte, then moved to Accenture and now I'm at Google. My journey has been eye opening and rewarding at the same time. I've witnessed discrimination, bias, unconscious bias, you name it! Happy to share my story in hopes that it will help someone navigate this space better and learn from my experiences! Thanks for watching, don't forget to subscribe!
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Rule number 1: never tell anyone your personal business e.g. your vacation plans, weekend plans, your investments, side hustle, etc.
Can’t even live normal…. How many years of your life can you deal with that and when does regret set in?
From my perspective you're shared experience
Was rooted in the typical racism WE ALL EXPERIENCE in a system setup for them and not DEI
I'm glad you are doing well at your current position with Google
I agree keep them folks out ya business
They don't want to see you enjoy life and this is why America isn't in the top 10 of industrialized nations
They had a chance to do right and did wrong
Now they have BRICKS as a result
Like how do you fugg up Reserve Currency status
Learned this the hard way, but grateful to see people’s true colors.💯
White ppl get to brag with their buddies... How about in CA hustles with your inner circle?
Bro is telling no lies! I had the same thing happen to me in corporate, this woman was literally upset because I did not hang out with them after work hours and I was like ma'am I keep my professional and personal life separate as a person who have worked in corporate all my life your co workers and managers are not your friends. So she started going around the office saying I wasn't working and not team player, but what she didn't know was that I was truly the wrong one to play with because I kept a document with dates, times, deadlines, and documentation of everything I did on the job and it dated back for months. I happily sent those documents into the EEOC and she was eventually fired please don't play with me. We also have to talk about how being a black introvert is like an internal sin in corporate America because the number of times people assumed I was mean just because I didn't want to gossip or hang out with them was wild to me.
FACTS!! You hit it on the nail with the sin being an introvert in corporate with all these extrovert vultures. They always want to hang out. So draining.
You listened to your inner voice that said stay away from the wicked
You also kept the proper notes to prove your case
She was not fit for the job she was fired from
Facts, it's as if they beileve every black male is an entertainer or comedian.
Black introvert woman here 🙋🏾♀️ No lies told 🎯
Right I'm not even in corporate America and had the same issue my boss wanted to be friends I said okay at first but then it's started being overbearing. Wanting to hang out after a full shift I been around you all day don't want to hand out then texting me everyday at home . I had to tell him let's just keep our relationship professional it was too much and I had already told him I'm a introvert. Luckily he's a cool dude so he was cool about it I'm still nice with him at work though so I guess that helps . I've learned from past jobs being too quiet is not good so with this job I tried to force myself to be more outgoing I guess he thought I wanted to be friends.
Some people can't stand for you to be cool, friendly and unbothered. It reveals their own toxic demeanor.
THAT PART
Facts
His story hits so close to home and I am nit referring to corporate world. Most industries are like this just toxic.
yep
So true
I worked with a guy who was black just like me. One time I picked him up from the airport because he was stranded and he stayed at my home for two nights. Also, got him in touch with my ivy league friends when he was considering applying for business school. I was slow to tell him about my personal business, but eventually did. A year later, he got promoted and became my manager. 3 months later, my "friend" I'd talk to all the time about all his problems fired me from my high paying ($250K+) corporate job
Your work friends arent your friends. Period.
Wow 😬😯
Wow what position was this?
Whoaaa😮
Wow, that's straight craaazzy!
Sheesh 🙄
When you’re really brilliant, the person most intimidated by you is usually miles ahead of you. What they notice is that you have that “thing” that school can’t teach and money can’t buy. You’re innovative. Creative. Original. Hardworking. That’s a beast combination. Stay to yourself. Protect your genius. 👍
Chef's kiss! Love this!
💯
Being a black person in corporate America is so exhausting 😔 why can’t we just do the work & go home without all the extras? If I don’t want to mingle & be extra friendly or hang out after work & get to know people more what does that have to do with my ability to do my job? Long as im respectful & cordial it should just be that. These companies always preach so much about “diversity” well that should include those who are introverts or more direct. They make us do all these bs personality quizzes to only want us all to act the same. And the passive aggressive whi*e women are the worse always finding something to complain about that has nothing to do with the actual job/work
You can. Make up a story about your personal life e.g., spouse, kids etc. Yeah, you shouldn't have to, but you better. It gives you easy outs. My kid is sick. I have to pick my child up from school, the little league game etc. My husband/wife is having surgery.
It was always about me avoiding difficult co-workers. I'd get brought into the office to be told that I'm too serious or seem nervous. I would simply say that I want to make it home to my wife and kids without ruffling co-worker's feathers. They took that as me being a threat or too condescending. After a year and 8 months, I respectfully resigned.
Yep try living wirh them
Corp America is full of psychopaths that’s why…
Describes my experience to the T.
Rule #1 and Rule#10 Never talk to anybody at work about your goals outside of work. They are not your friend. Period.
I don't work in corporate anymore( I work in the medical field now )but this is true.
People will either have the same goals and feel like they are in competition with you, or they don't feel like you're not worthy of reaching your goal and are waiting for you to slip up.
I am in the corporate world,Asian woman, had to train my new coworker…2 years later they give him a $2.00 raise making more money than me…I been with the Corp company for 10 years…. I resigned right before a huge project… they can figure it out….
SUPER smart move!!❤❤
That's fucked up
Damn, the same thing happened to me not in our corporate job, but in a regular job, I trained my white coworker and he ended up getting the manager position and he even brought in his girlfriend who ultimately got her own office despite not even having a college degree orexperience running an office. This was in Florida, which is why I’m not there anymore.
That will teach them! Sadly they undervalued you!
lol why are you with a company for 10 years
The crazy part is these corporations have multiple sources of income but they want you to have only 1 dependent on them.
Right lol
Who said that? Are they stopping you from buying property or investing your own money? I don't get it.
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Narcs
SLAVERY. Have at least 2-3 sources!!!
You have to be ruthless and calculated. If you care too much it will crush your soul. I'm not being hyperbolic when I say these things.
Not just in the corporate world. In any job you have to be ruthless and look out for yourself first and last.
Facts! … I’m ruthless, calculated and often times find myself having to hold corporate leadership accountable. If you care too much, it will drain you. Emotional intelligence is everything in this space.
@@Noir_Nouveau no lies told!
*My biggest adjustment in working in corporate is the fakeness. I was not used to people smiling and in your face and talking about you or putting out their own narratives.*
Facts.
Yep. You can sense the fake energy in the room. The worst part is when you call them out for being fake & they get defensive.
@@RexDavis415 *Yes they become real confused.*
I find as American overseas the work culture is a lot different and I feel people are not so fake.
As a black manager working in corporate America for 10 years I understand and can relate to your experiences. It’s not about performance but control. The number one thing I look at is the empathy and emotional intelligence level of my immediate boss
I will definitely add that everything in corporate is political or personal. Nothing is performance based!!!
Not perfrmormance but control....this is sad.
This is higher education as well. Sad.
It’s called racism white supremacy
Control of what??? Control of your personality and behavior?
I had a supervisor years ago tell me that I had a resting b**** face and looked bored in meetings. Like am I supposed to smile in a meeting the whole time? Ppl are weirddd
Can you even legally say that? Tf?
That’s crazy.
@@TheeRebelI’ve had a colleague tell me this a few weeks ago right in front of a manager. Mind you she has one too. I say that to say People say anything.
@@naijalovin aww sorry this happened to you
@@simba8665 yup! I quit a few weeks later 😆
Don't ever tell them about your RUclips channel. NEVER!
Can you elaborate on this statement please?
@@sboyer087 Don't share your business. Especially when it relates to social media or content creation. Please leave your outside work life, outside your work life. While also being respectful of any employee agreements you've signed or made. Your business is your business unless there is an employee contractual agreement otherwise made.
@@opsgrunt understand
Ooo thank you for this tip
But it’s his real name
As black men our image has been completely destroyed by the mainstream media. We are all dealing with this nonsense in the workplace and nothing is being done about it legally! At this point we should be building our own businesses and working together as black men. Nobody want to deal with gaslighting, lying, email wars, and false accusations everyday you go to work…too stressful
This!!!!!!!!
Yes, but the question is what is stopping this from happening?
Us in the Black community have allowed this and perpetuated this. As a black woman, I know not one single black "thug" in real life. But I've seen black thugs galore on TV and in the movies. That is our fault.
I just experienced going through a PIP. Even the HR personnel knew my managers were making me jump through unnecessary hoops. By the second meeting, i knew everything i did was under a microscope, I resigned. I already had another job lined up. My advice is to 'go where you are celebrated not tolerated.'
Brah you need a passport to go where you are appreciated
You won't find it in declining America
A PIP 9/10 is just a formal way to fire someone. Most of the time they make them unrealistic on purpose so they can get you out the door.
Facts same experience in 2008 working for Big Pharma in Europe here. I resigned and walked.
@@stevewilson6211 some people maybe don’t have luxury of doing that, for various reasons. But it a good thought
Oh boy, the good ole PIP!! I’ve been on it about 6 times in my career, they are horrible stressful and borderline suicidal. But, I always got through either with a new job before I got fired or after I got fired. Biggest lesson I tell anyone who work for someone is Please
Please have an emergency fund. I had nothing in the early days and you go in survival mode. Now, if I get fired, I just say 👌🏿 ok and walk out door cause I know I got 6 months EF to live off .( and I ain’t too Proud to go work fast food to make money)
Yes---have an emergency fund. The employment contract states it is "at-will" so at any time they can let you go. This was so good!
I totally relate to what you said about being put on a PIP! I've experienced that as well. I'll go even further and say that while I was having to do a PIP, a PIP was being done on me by my immediate! 😡 She would even write down how long I was in the bathroom!! 🫨 Talk about micro managing on a higher level smh.
This!
If those 6 months you were working fast food that whole time even if it was part time you’ll extend how much more time you have before you need to get a better paying job . Even if only for a bit…
For us introverts they should let the work speak for itself
Just because a person isn't engaged (gossiping, small talking, after work meetups, minding their business, unbothered, polite and all that) it doesn't mean they don't want to be there maybe they are just not into that or don't want to mix personal life with work which is torally fine
This! 💯 Why can't we just do good work and go. I believe these jobs want your soul 🤷🏾♀️
It's so sad that in companies, they don't allow people be themselves. Different personalities can work in a cot
@@Allthingsworktogether1125 and that's the other thing companies should be focused on if the person is doing their work well instead sometimes they would rather prioritize people that are back bitting or gossip but are social and make them feel comfortable rather than a quiet person that does his or her job well that's an issue that should be fixed
@laxus5 overseas you can be an introvert or extrovert and your job won't be affected based on who you are designed as a human being. Places like Europe you will feel more comfortable in the workplace as you don't have to do the most and be on a at will contract also. Maybe consider.
My overall experience is that corporate is a culture. The better you match with the culture the better your experience will be. If you're not a cultural match, no matter how productive you are or how much money you generate for the company, they will IN MOST CASES (NOT ALL) find a reason and a way to transition you back out on the street.
Sad reality 😒
@@pearlsrevealed Not really
Yes it's "White" culture that is implicitly anti-Black. Calling it just "corporate culture" skirts around the core issue, RACE and the power dynamics of white supremacy.
Yes, really.
They gave you a “be more office social” plan… that’s crazy.
Bro 😮
Smh crazy
They are energy vampires. Can't thrive without stealing the energy off of others.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
How bout a leave me tf alone and let me do my job plan
BP have forgotten who they are dealing with. These people used to go to war with the rest of the world…..now that they can’t the way they used to, that spirit of fierce competition and the “art of war” have been replaced with tactics in corporate America.
Aggression, passive aggression, mind games, psychopathy etc something we can’t understand.
Looking for this comment.."If you do not understand white supremacy, which is racism, what it is and how it works, everything you do understand will only confuse you" Mr. Neely Fuller Jr.
I’ve learned early on not to tell anybody my business about my work outside of my 9-5 unless we are cool. I’m def not telling a manager. Sometimes managers are some of the biggest haters on the team.
My brother said always assume that your coworkers will take the information you give them and pass it on to your manager. My coworkers can't stand me because I'm vague about life outside of work.
@targetegrat Yes, anything they tell the "cool" work friend can be repeated. So, I would ONLY share things that I don't mind my manager and /or other co workers knowing, if my "cool" work friend should happen to tell the Mgr or another co worker........No loss. You can talk if you want just,
keep it general if not work related. U can clock out and let your hair all the way down! I stayed in CA too long, should have gotten out sooner. It felt so wrong. It wasn't the place for me to thrive. Some Black people like and thrive. So many complain too, so many!!! Oops I have written you a book.
I agree our RSOO is a hater. And coworkers are snitches. They are always saying something to someone. I hate the culture it's a POS.
I wouldn’t say not to share your personal life because it adds context to your behaviors which may be a source of irritation to you boss if unexplained. Just don’t tell more than is necessary , or details that may make them jealous.
That PIP was so focused on things that are barely, if at all measurable. That leader's lack of experience shows.
OMG, yes! Super subjective! No metrics in that plan at all! How did her manager approve that nonsense? They probably didn't even ask to see it. This is why I love my union job bc this 'ish would never fly.
Thank you for being resilient. What can be done to help other males navigate this corporate space? There just aren't enough of you guys there 😢
That’s why if you think the PIP is uncalled for document everything and engage with an employment lawyer ASAP.
The goal is for you to fail the PIP so they can let you go without severance. If you engage with an employment lawyer during that process (and you want to leave the company) you can at least do it with 4-8 weeks of severance pay.
PIPs are purposely subjective, because when objective measures are met the person can't be legally fired unless their contract stipulates that they can be fired without cause. But in the US I think being fired without cause is legal in non unionized roles.
@@Sababbby it is actually. For example, I am in NC and we are an at "will State" meaning you can be fired without explanation or reason.
I put my employers on pip, For the last several months you missed 4 coaches can you commit to showing up to our coaching because they are crucial to my ongoing improvement, Sign and date here, any comments here 😂.. They were shook!!
BW here previously in CA. I dealt with the usual microagressions, as well as blatant racism, including jokes about AA. I opened my own firm eventually, but prior to, someone put me onto the 48 laws of power. I never let on anything was bothering me, and methodically planned my exit, because no one was about to mess up my bag. They were SHOCKED when I left, because when I tell yall they thought I was the happiest of campers 😂 and my boss even tried to “warn me” of how hard it is to be successful in business (though NONE had EVER owned a business). Anywho, 15 years in, very successful multi - million dollar firm, and have even hired some former co-workers. You just need to learn how to play their game, and be the better player. And for those who think “I shouldn’t have to do all that”, then don’t. I was able to do that because I had a long term plan to leave for my own business
What does your firm do ?
Women in the corporate environment are different. I always have a side gig outside of work and keep it to myself. They will try to convince you we are family at work; NOPE, it's a setup.
I’m a recruiter (black woman)and have been in the same company for 18 years. Worked under several leaders and thrived and even filled in as interim manager while we looked for a new Director. New director comes in last year (white woman) and opens a manager role and says no one on the team is qualified for it 😮 and hires her friend. Now instead of thriving, I’m told I need to speak up more and that I don’t seem engaged. Seems like a common story.
the good old "speak up more", "visibility" excuse to keep you in place and your career stagnant.
You deserve better. Maybe make a business doing consulting?
@@mctreasurethat’s what happened to me and now I got laid off…they’re a bunch of clowns 🤡
@@PhysiqueFuel keep your head up, don't let them drain you of your joy
It would have been best to observe because you didn’t provide any empathy or advice from what you have seen in your one job for 20 years whilst MANY brothas are switching jobs FAR more frequently due to everything he explains…from depression to worse. The system has been fearful of a lawsuit from a woman in particular black women since the 90s I saw with my mom…beside the system knows how to destroy the family, devalue the man with work instability or no work please be more aware.
Your experience sounds exactly like my experiences as a black man in Corporate America! It has been the most toxic and defeating experience ever! I am happy to know that I am not crazy and a failure that I am not alone in this!
Dam I am going through a similar shyt. 😂😂
Needed this. Thought I was the crazy one for a second.😊
Yes, I agree, I'm black and have been through some of these experiences myself, and it's important not to personalize these experiences of discrimination and not feel like a failure everyday. Build your own wealth and go where they fu*k (like) with you 😂
Keep tight records fellas. Keeping my receipts has saved me more times than I want to remember.
Although I am a black woman not a man. I can totally relate to what you said about being treated like you aren’t doing enough, being asked to do things outside of your job description, having to go the extra mile to prove yourself, and WHEW 😰 After all of that still just not being enough. What I have learned is that there is a spirit of jealousy and power dynamics that drive unhappiness in the workplace. It is awful the amount of narcissistic behavior that goes on and I am sorry you had to uproot yourself so many times. A rose is still a rose 🌹 good brother! Continue to shine ✨
As the only black librarian in my library district, I get this everyday. It’s like working in the Matrix and we are Neo. So many corporate bots everywhere who hate you because they are jealous of your light. Keep shining.
You are in the Matrix
Not work woes at the library! I always envisioned that as the perfect place to work. Books & smart people, seems like paradise. Hoping things improve for you.
I'm a Black man currently working at a Biglaw firm. I'm literally in the same situation; I'm in the process of trying to find another law firm because my team is unwilling to accept me. I'm just a worker.
It is very exhausting being Black and dealing with Macroaggressions.
Don't give up. Do you know how much people would want to be in your position working for a biglaw firm. Don't be intimated to leave a good job because of people.
GET YOUR OWN ASAP, WM AND BW ARE YOUR ENEMY AND OUT TO DESTROY YOU✔️
One way to cope is have something going on on the side... It will keep you distracted from being bothered by them.
My previous manager gave me a 1% raise (while the rest got 3% and a bonus) because I didn’t eat lunch with them everyday 😒
That's insane, wow
That's childish
NEVER tell them what your thinking or want to do on your vacation. Get the lessons, learn and on move on.
It’s crazy how so many of us have been through similar BS like this.
Corey, you were my recruiter in late 2022 when I was interviewing for Google’s APM graduate role 😂. Maybe you remember (I’m a young black British guy).
l thought you were great as a recruiter, loved your demeanour and seemed like you genuinely cared about helping us candidates through the process.
2 years later it’s great to see you’re enjoying your time at Google. Maybe we’ll cross paths again soon but this time for a mid-level PM position 🤷🏾♂️💫
This is great to see! I hope all is well with you!
@@CoreyMJones3It says a LOT, Sir, when your reputation precedes you. God bless.
@@CoreyMJones3Thanks Corey, really good!
Whew lord. I am a nurse so corporate is unfamiliar to me… this is INSANE. The micromanaging and the emails 😳
I’m a nurse too ! But I plan to work remote corporate
I have a friend that works in corporate America and says it is like Game of Thrones
😂😂😂 Cardi B says being a celebrity is like Power
I think a huge part of this problem, in addition to the bias, is this insistence that your co workers are family and they're not. We are there to work with each other and that is it. There should be no expectation that we're going to hang out together or be friends, which is inauthentic anyway because a friend is someone you choose, not someone you're forced to be around because you both work at the same place. All this talk of us being family is making people think we're supposed to be super close and it's really just insincere to think this way.
She probably was hating because you didn’t find her attractive.
Equals insanity lol
How is that any type of issue at an in person job site. Just a maintenance plan should be in place.
She needs to lose her job then 🤷🏾♂️
abisolaabisola - Yes, I have had women in workplaces turn on me because I didn't approach them although they were not my managers. Update - None of them were cute, they mostly looked like bears.
The first sign of it. I report sexual harassment.
She got jealous as soon as she heard of his thriving influencer business. She's a hater!
Its tough in corporate America for anyone that is not in the majority...I been grinding in it for 30 years. The crazy " good old boy" culture even among companies that have these diversity and inclusion programs is ever present.
It's a thin line between trying to fit in and make bonds and shucking and jiving. A very thin line! A lot of the coworkers respect you for keeping it real though. But upper management is the challenge.
@@Kuhmodo I agree with you...But at the end of the day you have to understand you are in the minority. Furthermore...corporate America is really about the only way...excluding entrepreneurship ...to make a good income
Whewww.... I'm only 8 minutes into the video and had to pause it because I'm triggered (I do plan to eventually finish watching). I'm a Black woman, been in the game for decades. Started in corporate. For the last 6 years, I've been running my own business and for as hard as entrepreneurship is (certainly has its own set of issues), I try really hard to keep from going back into corporate toxicity. Kudos to you Corey for hanging in there and sharing your story!
Yea, that we don’t know if you want to be here….i knew they were laying the groundwork to not renew the contract with that. This same exact thing happened to me when I relocated for a role. It hurt me to my core because my ish was together and top notch. These places dgaf no matter how hard you work or how good your metrics are.
Edited to say: I salute you sis for making the switch to entrepreneurship . That’s something I’m trying to line up now.
@@Web-DianeThey'll care if we start organizing and boycotting their businesses.
@@sparklesp9304
We need to organize and create our own..
Got out of Corporate in 2003 to start my entrepreneurship journey, made a lot of mistakes a long the way...Had a lot of success doing that time...went back to corporate America in 2016 to 2017....left again to start back my business...back doing well again on my own ....I always used corporate for a pay check not for a career....
Wow your story's inspiring -- I want to be an entrepreneur too in order to get away from all the toxicity! 😅
I'm a black woman in corporate in Spain! And all of this rings true for me too! 😩 Some hard lessons I've needed to learn over this past year. Corporate life is like being the jungle. Survival of the fittest for real🥴🫠💆🏾♀️
Spain is brutal😮😮 how are you still hanging on😢
@@millieconsultancy Yep…10 years in!😅💪🏾… Spain isn’t for the weak…theres a lot of bureaucracy. But its worth it. I prefer the☀️ and quality of life over living in the 🇬🇧...🫠🥴
Same experience as an introvert non ghetto black woman… I look good & I’m here to do my job! My lunch is for quiet time and talking with my boo, the weekends are to forget about anything work related (I’m not coming) … my work is exceptional pay me & deal with it
What is a "non ghetto" Black woman? Do you believe that in general Black women are ghetto & you are somehow an exception? It sounds like you have some biases about Black women that you may need to work through. I'm hoping there are no Black women that have to report to you...ever.
I hate the"tell me about a time" recruiters. And the running down resume interviews down to 2000.
I hate those type of behaviour questions as well🤮, I literally can’t stomach them. When they ask that, I know I will bomb the interview. I interviewed with Jnj and was 100% qualified for the role/ they found me and asked me to apply but I bomb interview . Hiring Manager said “ your the person but HR didn’t like the answers so they gave role to someone that gave nice answers and knew Nothing !!about the job
Why can’t you come up scenarios to answer those questions about you having a problem and solving them? My interviews are like conversations. Yall need to practice
Yup. I emailed a company once and told them about their irrelevant questions and how ridiculous their interview was! It was such a pain. They asked me about a secretary job from 15 years ago. I let them know the job was not very significant for me to be able to answer their specific question.
girl lie. i lie in my response to any stupid question that doesn't have a concrete answer related to the role. "when was a time you displayed your capacity for leadership within your workplace?" girl give me .5 seconds and i'll spin you a nice fairytale since we're sitting here chatting about foolishness and not my applicable skill set.
Black woman here, and I relate to this as well. Unfortunately, I've gone through with BOTH "others" and "us" (it's even more hurtful when it's one of us). Corporate people don't like when you're only focused on professional work and you're not "social" (even if you ARE being kind and personable, it's not enough to them), especially if you're introverted (like I am) or you just have a reserved, low-key personality. They like Black folks smiling 24/7, super bubbly, and funny... that's what makes them comfortable 🙄😒 Hey, if that's you're natural personality, that's fine (and even if you do, y'all have to be careful too because you can go from the favorite to the most hated real fast... it's called "pet to threat"... insane but real). But for those of us who are quieter, we have to play the game and become versions of ourselves that may be pleasant to them but inauthentic to us, and it's truly draining on the mind, body, and spirit over time. When you're able to find a work environment where you can truly be yourself and get commended for your efforts, it's truly a blessing but unfortunately not the norm for most.
Bro, you don't know how much I needed this video. I just randomly stumbled on it. You clearly stated every experience & emotion I've been feeling as a Data Engineer in my department. I've had the exact same experience and it's soo frustrating but I'm still pushing through. Our experience needs to be studied and brought to light. I appreciate you for sharing your story with us 👏🏾💪🏾
I just find it interesting that no matter the role “we” all have similar stories at some point in our careers…ish is exhausting man! We have to keep going anyway
Yes as an black male in the Healthcare industry I can totally agree. 🙌
Separating your professional and personal life is so important. You can be friendly to your coworkers but if you befriend them, be mindful of how that may change your professional dynamics. People will start treating you different because you're their friend they work with vs their coworker
If you're lucky, you can get a tiny little clique put together of people you can rely on. It's a group of like 4-5 of us that met at a previous company and we all kind of roll together to different companies. But yeah.... I'm two different people depending on who I'm talking to at my job lol
I’m three minutes in and already I am loving the video. I love how you are not doing the typical “sit down” video. You are filming from different angles, moving around and throwing interesting b-roll in the mix. You are an excellent content creator and your content inspires me so much. I pray that your platform continues to grow and grow beyond your wildest dreams. 🙏🏾🙌🏾🔥
This is SO relatable! My last role was at Dow Jones for the Wall Street Journal. My initial leadership was phenomenal but it later went all the way to hell after my original CMO, VP, AD, immediate global manager resigned -- I had no more advocacy or trust. Of course I was the only Black and gay man... chileee. I have never smoked more in my life. So many shared how they were on antidepressants. It is REAL! Thank you for this video!
😬 finance + journalism = extreme white habitus
I’m sorry you went through that
This is interesting because some gay black men say cooperate jobs don’t discriminate against black gay men
Chile...as a blk woman, I am soooo connecting with your comment.
I'm a Washington journalist, and clearly remember all the toxic people in management I had to deal with when I first arrived. Just about every move I made was criticized, and I knew it was because I was stereotyped as the "angry blk woman." I'm written up because I ask why a computer system has crashed again, but nothing is said about the whte guy who just cursed out loud and threw a chair across the room because he's stressed out.
Thank goodness I have outlasted all of those toxic people.
@@mizzmolly7649 What I've noticed is Black men are faaaaar more comfortable being the only Black face in a White space, whereas Black women are a bit more cautious and reluctant initially. Your take.....
Sorry to hear this 😢
People at work are “NOT” your friends. Email and take pictures of everything that occur, Nothing but racial, basis , and manipulation. Don’t ever talk about your life and don’t ever feel pressure to feel like you have to fit in. Just do your work and go home to your “REAL FAMILY and FRIENDS”.
Thats not going to work. You have to talk about something. People are naturally trying to bond with you. They don't want to bond over the job. You need to create a story that works for you yet can provide a degree of bonding. None of the story has to be deep or personal. But white people are naturally insecure. They need a story so they can feel in control.
Give them one 😂😂😂
When they say how was your weekend?
I spilled some coke on my carpet, took me forever to get it out.
Talk about a Netflix show.
I was helping my neighbour fix his fence
I had a massive headache and literally slept. (Never make it out that your life is exciting)
I was fixing the door on my oven
😂😂 it doesn't have to mean anything.
Sir!! I felt ALL of this! EVERY word!! Been in corporate for almost 25 years and the only things that have changed are the names. At some point I plan to slow it down...I'm over the politics. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Excellent content.
Your former Deloitte manager was intentional in trying to create doubt and division between you and your colleague. 👀
The Accenture manager was insecure and inexperienced. Her objective was to blackball you☹️ Damn shame.
These conversations are so important! If you don’t have a sense of self and a community to unpack these experiences with you can easily get lost in it and loose your identity. I’ve definitely had to look at an email a time or two and ask myself if I was tripping with what I was reading! Community is so important!
Corporate America is trash. That recruiting coordinator ain't nothing but a secretary. They be tryna hype these positions up like people are stupid. I quit my last corporate job. I'm laid bk and reserved plus I look good ASF not to toot my own horn. I was asummed to be stuck up and intimidating. I just kept things professional and didn't want to get personal. Anyone considering taking a corporate position make sure you stay on your toes. Trust no one and if you feel you're becoming a target try to transfer to another department or quit dont let them term you because it's going to be on some b.s. and HR is not your friend. They will help your manager get you out.😂😂😂
If you're perfect and do you're job well they can't fire you and what they'll do is lay you off with a severance since they can't find anything to fire you for. Stay til you get that money and enjoy the money while looking for another job. They never like me because I'm quiet as well and a good worker and all they can do is pay you to leave if you do it right.
@@creneemugo94 I've followed the book to the letter and it's still bs. I'm not going to give people false hope. Like I said stay on your toes with corporate. The politics played or ridiculous. These are people livelihoods not a game.
Bingo. When you cry to HR, they tell your manager you came. HR’s job is to protect the company from litigation.
@@CrispusAttucks2315 Boom 💥 that part. It's honestly pointless to talk to them.
@@CrispusAttucks2315👍🏾 you got that!
They ask you why you're smiling, and they ask if everything is ok when you're just minding your business at your desk, doing your work.
Exactly why I got into cybersecurity several years ago. Spent 5 months in the corporate environment in 2015 fresh outta college. 6’4, darkskin with locs and tats? I was definitely getting let go fast So glad Im in tech and its more about what you know, skills, certifications and just getting things done
Goddamn.
Microagressions aside, this all just makes me sick to realize corporate work has little to do with actually working. From interviewing to day-to-day functions to climbing the ladder, everything comes down to a vibe.
I’m surprised airplanes aren’t just falling out of the sky everyday.
One thing that’s always been tough as a black man in corporate is finding other black men that I could relate to. At my last position, black men were either at the bottom of the hierarchy as janitors or at the top as partners.
I can handle the pressure, but I still have a hard time grappling with the idea that corporate work has largely been exclusionary and that I’m the exception.
Because it’s performing. That’s it.
@@prettybrwneyez7757 I’m realizing way too late in life that I’m too idealistic and that a very small part of the working world is about innovating, improving lives or making meaningful change.
No. You're just sane. That's all.
So in other words, corporate America is just high school with better attire..
@@sickofguysnamedtodd2293yea. It’s about being social. Everyone knows you get opportunity and promotion by who you know.
Your story mimics mine exactly. I am a HR Practitioner and have been a Generalist and a Recruiter for many years. I worked for 5 Fortune 500 companies. As a black person, who is originally from Ghana in West Africa, not only did I have to fake the funk on a daily basis, I had to prove my capability and competency at the workplace twice as much; specifically as a black man and an African to boot. After 30 years living and working in the States, I got fed up with the fakeness, cut throat office politics, the stress and layoffs and decided to return home to Ghana. Although, I am a naturalized American citizen, returning back home was the best decision I made. I live to work, instead of working to live, which was how I felt in the States. I also have less stress, mentally and physically and a better balance between work and life.
This is definitely on point. And once you get into leadership as a Black man, they turn up the heat on you
Damn I felt this. They hate they have nothing else going on in their lives. Whatever they do though usually ends up in a blessing for you in the long run. If you have good intentions, continue to be yourself!
As a HBCU grad, MBA, Six Sigma, young man you escaped CODE SWITCHING which is 3:57 dangerous. Years ago I had HR issues and it was with Black Women sadly. Cudos to you💯💯💯💯much success ✊🏿
Always
You ran into a Brad Worshiper
As a Black woman in DEI, I can tell you that Black women in HR are not allies. Do not trust them.
While you were talking about the experiences you had at your previous jobs it really pissed me off! It’s so many unhappy people that refuse to see others happy and just be themselves. It’s so sad. Glad you made it on the other side of that! Just sent my Husband this video to watch!
6:26 OMG, they ALL say this. They can't prove anything that you've done wrong, so they fall back on this stupid lie. They tried that on me at a different accounting firm, but I was outperforming everybody and so many partners relied on me for their hardest clients. Those liars couldn't get their little agenda to work.
Not just corporate. MEDICAL. Been through all of these things in Medical / Research. PIP was the moment I quit immediately. I was the top person - factually, not my opinion. They recapped daily and weekly reports at meetings every morning and every Monday. And then quarterly reports. My quality rating was unmatched. That fake excited, volume based approached you mentioned doesn’t work. I built relationships with my people. And that was on a team that was the best performing hospital in the state. The funny part is that once people saw me leave, 2 or 3 people immediately said if he’s out, I’m out. 😂 also said and done they lost 24 out of 26 people from that team.
This stuff is one of the main reasons I moved back to Kenya after 20 years in the states to do my thing. 6 years in and life has never been better. They can’t stand a capable, confident black man. Having a favorable place to go to was a blessing. Can’t imagine being stuck uzunguni
Wow. You & I have VERY similar experiences in corporate America. So sorry you had to experience this. There needs to be better systems in place for employees who experience discrimination & mistreatment.
Hi Corey,
Thank you for sharing your corporate journey as a black man. It’s refreshing and inspiring to see the light for others at the end of the tunnel. As a young black woman who has been navigating the crazy world of Corporate America since 2018, I have experienced bias, code switching and discriminatory circumstances myself and it’s disheartening and disgusting.
My advice to any other minorities navigating in the corporate world today, I strongly advise that you keep a journal of strange behavior happening to you at work, document all unjust treatment, know a good discrimination lawyer and the EEOC process, and acquire that attorney the moment you feel a PIP plan is on the way because majority of the time it doesn’t end in “our” favor. All attorneys don’t require that you be terminated before they start to work on your case.
Corey, you content is great and I can’t wait to see more. I wish you continued success! Thank you!
You forgot to mention carrying a recorder. Always upload the recordings on your home computer right after work.
Great video. Thanks for making this because no lies were told. I’m trying to find my way out of CA asap. So much racism, discrimination and passive aggressive ppl.
I feel like some, not all, of them folks sometimes create animosity just for the hell of it especially when you’re good at your job and don’t go out the way to make friends or talk about a lot of your personal affairs. It’s pathetic in my opinion.
I don’t like managers and coworkers that go behind your back being 2 faced
As a black man who worked for Accenture, I get all this!!! I've been there.
Every corporate job I had I’ve had similar experiences. I feel it greatly gets in the way of my work.
Wheeewwww the jealousy that struck your manager when she heard about your RUclips opportunity is something serious. That hit dog was hollering 😭 Happy things are working out at Google. I feel like at tech companies with decent culture you can run into some chill, impressive people. And a lot of times, those people also have their own side thing going on so they won’t go spiral about yours like people who don’t have anything going on but work.
This is so reaffirming of my experience on the corporate plantation as a black woman. Thank you for sharing.
I’m a therapist and just started working for this company where I’m the only male black therapist in my region. And I’m already having to put my foot down because someone is trying down playme and mess with my money. Just hoping it doesn’t come back on me. I’m glad you still rising bro🤞🏿
Sorry to hear that, keep going my friend ✊🏾
I’m in Philly and can’t find a heterosexual black male therapist for ish… 🤦🏾♂️ how do you even properly search for a therapist these days I gave up… the system wants us to fail. 🤷🏾♂️
@@TheeRebel it’s hard to find because it isn’t a lot of us. And then if there is some, from my experience, they do a very good job of trying to make us quit or get let go. Especially if it’s for kids
Have noticed this also if the therapist is a black male 9/10 he’s gay and I’m not speaking to no woman about my problems they wouldn’t be able to relate
@@kenneyp.9456I made a mistake talking to a black female assistant to a psychiatrist. She left the room to get the doctor and in the middle of it, told everyone at the front desk of my problems….never again.
This is very insightful and I’m grateful I came across it! Thanks for sharing.
The little/small talks about things I have no interest in or don’t relate to while at work is what makes me feel out of place! I’m learning to be okay with not having anything in common with some people because we grew up differently.
I’m grateful that I’m not the only one who feels this way at work.
Thank God for you sharing. Blessings brother!
I’ve had very similar experiences in corporate America but that’s what made me start my Content Creation journey and it’s been the BEST thing I’ve ever done. I now make ALOT more than I did when I was full time and I don’t have to answer to people who have stereotype, pre-set ideas of who you may be. Success is the best get-back. 💰💸💵
Inspiring bro. I endeavour to achieve the same thing because I'm tired of working in this system with these people 😤
@@TheGardenofEdun I feel you brother. You can do it, just don’t give up and never let your failures be your downfall. Failures are there to help shape you to become a super successful person.
Thanks for sharing this vid I had the same issue a few months ago with my manager saying I don’t speak enough or ‘engage’ with the team, It’s frustrating but as a black man you can’t push back because you’re then labelled the ‘Angry Black dude’ 🤦🏿♂️
When you have that feeling, the writing is on the wall, its time to GO. When you walk in a meeting, you are a "Black" first, position second. You ALWAYS have to prove yourself. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for making this content I have never seen anything like. As a black man in Tech ( Construction Tech), I've had similar experiences. Usually, I get he's too blunt/brutally honest feedback. I'm learning to navigate that better, and it's interesting to hear how it's the same story. You have to work even harder to outwork the bias and or criticism of how you do your job.
Big 4s have very toxic work environment. I've worked at 2 in my home country. We don't have racism but the classism is very alive and well.
This video needs more views!! The perpetrators NEED to face the truth and understand how they STILL perpetuate racism, bias and white supremacy. Thank you for sharing your story. Walking in our shoes as Black people, we are a brave, proud and courageous people. Much love!
I had a WB tell me to grab the trash and I swiftly declined. He told me he was a director. I told him I was a man first and to never ask me to anything like that in life. The next day he comes to apologize. God forgives but I don’t.
You know you’re hitting on my topics!!! I’m definitely sharing this video with my folks 💜💜💜 This video is giving me PTSD!!!!!!!!!
Tapping into your world!
Like the scene from the Butler..you have to make them feel comfortable. Youll need to wear two faces. Your only expression is happy. Everyone can express themselves naturally.. except for the black especially the black male.
Thanks for sharing your story Corey! It was very enlightening and encouraging.
I posted the below in another channel and thought it would be useful to share here on my survival guide being the only Black guy in tech.
My survival rules as a BM in a corporate environment are:
Don’t ever make a mistake and do what you say you’re going to do before it’s due.
Not all BP you see around you may not be for you. It’s best to stay to yourself. You can acknowledge if they do, but keep it moving
If you’re not clear on a direct order, ask. Never assume. If you screw up it’s like treason for a bm or bw.
Don’t go to HR for anything or to report an issue. Find another job.
Don’t tell folks all your business especially what you’re buying (like a house, car). Keep them in abit of suspense and mystery. You don’t want them to be able to categorize you. Be like a rubics cube. Spilling all your business to them is like giving them your W2 to them. If a manager needs to reduce headcount it puts an even bigger target on you even if you are a top performer.
Only talk to woman at work only if its needed about work-related stuff. Don’t ever drive outside those boundaries. And talk them in an open visible environment with other people around, never in a secluded place.
Save all emails and chat conversations and know how to quickly recall them.
Don’t compare yourself with other cultures when it comes to title, promotions and pay. And don’t compete with them. You are in a different world.
The only thing you have as a BM or BW in a “other culture corporate environment “ is trust with them. If you lose that your done. If you screw up majorly on a project or task it’s best to start looking for another job.
If “them other folks” want small talk keep it short and concise. Let them do all the talking. Dont feel guilty joining early on a zoom call and everyone else is muted. You can say Hi and press the mute button again.
Dont ever complain in front of other co-workers or talk about other co-workers
Be cordial and a team player regardless how you feel about the person your interacting with
At “team building outings” don’t drink a lot and don’t act a fool. You are technically still on the clock and people don’t forget.
These are some of my survival tips with over 15years in a corporate environment as the “only black guy” in tech.
He has a public youtube channels so his business is open... as well as his additional income source. Hes a public figure. The good thing is he can make this a career if corp doesnt work out😊
There is a pre-established opinion on black male(everywhere we go) that makes other people feel uncomfortable around us. Therefore, we are constantly targeted/profiled. The best solution is to become more and more and more independent. An independent creation of wealth should be our highest priority. At least, that's what I do.
Why do you have a picture of another grown man as your profile pic?
As a fellow educated black man working in Corporate America, this content is very much appreciated! SUBSCRIBED!
When you see managers behave like that it’s because they try to find a scapegoat. It’s all about playing the game it seems and people trying to always have a cya in the clip. I’ve shut a manager down quick. Some of them barely do work themselves. Just delegate tasks and do bare minimum.
I see all that he said as rooted in racism which in America is a corperate NORM
A managers job is to delegate tasks. They’re typically not doers, they’re managersz
This is TRULY sad.😢SAME play REGARDLESS of the corporation. We always have to jump through endless hurdles. SUPER happy you found your tribe at GOOGLE.❤
I almost feel like I was watching my own story corporate America as a black woman…. I watched this video because I’m familiar with Deloitte and work with Accenture contractors at the Company I’m at now. I think that some managers in corporate America are committed to misunderstanding you or a story about you therefore you will never win. And upper mgmt loves to say it’s a communication issues… I was on a pip but they messed up and couldn’t file it. HR got fired lmaooooooooo
Deloitte did a mass layoff not long ago. Like 10% of their employees. 🥹
Love this one Corey! Thanks so much for sharing, I just watched it with the husband. Much continued success to you.
This resonates so much with me! I’ve had supervisors do the same thing. Even with high performance they only care about personality and how friendly you are with them.
This happens all the time even for black women, with also things still being a male dominated workforces and also it suck’s as we can’t be ourselves if we’re not out going and loud it’s difficult for us. We always have to prove ourselves, while other they don’t blink an eye
I'm thankful you're at peace at the new place. We need more of these conversations.
Absolutely!
When they try to tag team to get you out fam. lol yo we all have to learn that we can’t share out personal lives and aspirations with those we work with especially if they ain’t doing ish. Cause they will get jealous
I’ve learned to stop telling people at my corporate job what I have going on outside of work! I wouldn’t be surprised if Accenture has something in a policy stating you have to notify them of outside employment. That manager was salty as hell as soon as you mentioned being selected for that content creator program in LA!
Thanks for this! I've experienced the same things you have. I've worked in product management for 10+ years and there will always be learnings along the way. Some people managers don't care and are looking to get you out of there. Sidebar, I NEVER tell colleagues what I'm doing with my vacation; most are or will be envious.
Came across your story on my feed, and this was pretty triggering for me because I went through the same thing. Had to leave corporate and revert back to my nursing job. Mentally recovering and ready to tackle again. Thanks for your story.