I wonder what the dialogue in the ending will be if you don't process Sebastian side quest. EDIT: Tested it, and he will not mention his uncle, but the other parts are basically the same. The quest will wait for you to finish even after the house cup(Sebastian is not in the cut scene). Wish there could be an alternate ending for the Sallows, we already knew Rookwood cast the curse but the player just kill him anyway, instead of keeping him alive for information.
@@wakeshimutanemahazunakunam819 @Wakeshimutanemahazunakunamatittenopan No, I just didn't do the side quest that Seb kill his uncle, so he won't mention his uncle in 10:50. As I recall the quest that meet Solomon is a main quest.
yeah tho to be fair its kinda hard to be racist... when you're blind and the reason he blind is probably incest... like come on... if it was a curse magic could likely fix it and since they cant. makes you think
I wasn't sure whether to turn Sebastian in. I thought killing his uncle went too far, but then I remembered the wizard prison is essentially run by demons who steal your happiness and sanity and in my opinion no one deserves that fate.
"in my opinion no one deserves that fate." There are tons of people in real life who would deserve such a fate like all those people who torture and kill for fun/curiosity/stupid stuff. But yeah, sebastian doesnt deserve it. If it were a normal prison I would consider turning him in but not askaban.
If it's like Voldemort, he deserves it cause he's pure evil and a very ambitious one. Meanwhile Sebastian... He's more like a misguided teenager, i really wish there's a different prison system for a person like him. Plus the Jacksaw accident.. She's blamed for something she didn't do, he died bcs of the ancient ruins blade. She suffered her whole life because of it
Hopefully the ministry helps Sebastion because he wasn't getting help from his uncle and he wasn't listening to his friends regarding his use of dark magic. I doubt that they'll send a child to Azkaban, but it wouldn't surprise me if they did. He just needs adult guidance
Personally I think Sebastian is a manipulating desperate young man who is ruthless and will try to save his sister through any means when he finds out about your power he manipulate you and even at the end what bothered me is she's beaten his uncle he's winning and to use a Arvada Kadabra you must mean it otherwise nothing will happen to you if you cast it on someone if you don't want him dead nothing happens
I kinda wish there was something like community service for wizards… for the wizards who have done something bad but are truly regretting and want to improve… and not just Azkaban alone
I mean you probably only used them on bad people though. Frankly I think there should be more bad guys that use unforgivable curses in the game. You only ever see them do it in cutscenes.
@@destroyerblackdragon Sebastian only used it on a bad person a good person would attack the walking corpses before trying to deal with the 2 children, not attack the children even if my boy Sebby hit him with that basic cast first
If you talk to madam kogawa about her past and how her friend did something illegal. Kogawa said she never turned in her friend to the authorities because her friend’s fate was not for her to decide. I think there’s some parallels to what happens with Sebastian.
Bro that was a totally forgettable line and yet it had a repercussion in the game, I'm liking this game even tho it treats you like an special peach all the way but still is a solid game
I think Harry Potter moral code is really weird. You go to prison for killing someone with a spell specific for killing, but if you kill a person by incinerating, cutting in half or exploding with spells it´s ok
My headcanon for that is - there's lots of reasons why you need a spell for fire or to cut something in half, but there's no purpose for the unforgivables except to harm and control others. That's why they're banned while spells like incendio and diffindo are not (confringo is apparently restricted since it's also an aggressive spell). It's like why in real life governments ban firearms, but they can't ban knives or mallets which can technically be used to kill people much more cruelly than a gun. These are tools that aren't supposed to be used for violence.
@@ComedyLoverGirl @Peacekeeper I haven´t thought of that! You´re totally right! But, still, I joke around because many times in the books or in the games it looks like that using the spell is much more of a problem then the killing itself. Along the game we kill a lot of bad guys with other spells but with the killing curse it becomes a issue while with the others is ok
Disappointed there was no good ending, most games would at least incorporate an obscure list of criteria one must meet to achieve it, instead they just said “fck you Anne”
Sebastian went down a very dark path, but his uncle is the one who set him on it. Seriously, every time you see Solomon he seems to go out of his way to fuel Sebastian's downward spiral.
I mean his uncle was an ex Auror. He most definitely knew his ways with dark magic and we never really get to know why he left the Ministry with grudges. He was most likely right. The thing that annoys me the most however, is not the uncle being an absolute asshole, but the fact that with the dialogue options the game gives you, you still DON'T have a choice. Even though I always picked the option that should realistically lead to stopping Sebastian, I was pushed towards the only outcome the devs wanted. I've never felt so disconnected from my character in a game, because my reactions and feelings were completely different. Hell, I was SCREAMING "Cast Expelliarmus or something" when Sebastian was ready to fight, KILL his uncle. Like let me knock both of them out and drag them out by force. So I've chosen to turn Sebastian in. Yeah, I don't feel sorry for his uncle because he was an asshole - maybe didn't deserve death, but not my compassion either - but there's one important detail about Sebastian. He says he didn't want to hurt his uncle. But as Ominis says, the thing with unforgivable curses is that you have to MEAN it. To WANT to cast the spell in question. Whether it's causing pain, or killing someone. Sebastian WANTED to kill his uncle. There's no way around that. He could've used ANY spell in existence, but he chose Avada Kedavra. It goes for the Imperio curse as well. I liked Sebastian in the first half of his story. His motives are definitely righteous and sweet in a way, but his methods are not. He's been warned several times, but never listened. Sure he was desperate, but as the main story teaches us - sometimes there IS no solution. Sometimes, there are fates worse than death and such a fate he's brought upon himself and Anne to be honest. I like this questline a lot, because the actual answer as to Sebastian being in the right or wrong, bring guilty or innocent is not so clear.
Sebastian is just a teenager, his Twin is sick bc of a curse and your uncle just keep saying in the most rude way "it is what it is" and even kick you from your house... he is underage.... like wtf did you expect dummy ex auror...
Fully agree. I tried to make good choices throughout the game. Tho this quest line I took the dark path bc it felt more righteous than the, "good," path imo. Idk sabastion had his stupid moments for sure. Tho like everyone said. He was a naive teenager who wanted to help his sister. His uncle was a complete prick and tried to trash on him every chance he could get for him wanting to help his sister. Sabastion had good reason and was a good person altogether. Just fell down a very dark rabbit hole trying to do the right thing for his sister. Plus I couldn't betray sabastion after he went out of his way to take the fall for you during the restricted library mission. Dude was a real homie and I didn't regret standing up for him when he killed his uncle. You never get to find out if that relic could've saved Anne or not either bc the uncle destroyed it before you guys could try it out on the curse. No matter what. It's like sabastion said. His uncle gave up on them both and didn't seem to care about helping Anne and went as far as to sabotage you both for using dark magic to try to help someone.
@@polski8bit not really these who work the path of a Auror tend to not or never use the dark arts or even study the power or uses or how to cure injuries that came from curses or hex’s. The artifact that Sebastian found allowed him control the dark powers so if used in right way where u draw out the dark power out of her body while u get someone else use healing spells aswell as allow her to drink potions that give healing effect may save her. Just never get a chance to use it that way. At same time they afraid of such power so they never touch it these who do ether feel guilty n stop or turn all evil. Solomon shouldn’t of destroyed it without checking if it actual can save her the way I mentioned. And he shouldn’t of giving up should allow her live her life how she wants while not giving up but also living like it be her last day. All he did was give up n try force her twin brother give up. Sad that ending just him realises n feels guilty and not seeing her. Hoped she forgive him and mc kills Rookwood and she gets cured after his death or his death was required for her get better.
I really wish they hadn't abandoned the idea that we might have been able to save Anne with our ability. I was really looking forward to how that would pan out, but it seems like they cut that as well and just made sebastian's story more linear. I think it would have been really interesting where you have to choose whether to help Anne with your abilities (thus treading a similar path Isidora started down, possibly earning the distrust of the keepers) or not-- and if you don't help, then Sebastian gets desperate and uses the relic. Although they'd also have to talk about why 'manipulating emotions' equated to removing dark magic curses, but I think they could have done it if the main story had been more fleshed out (what actually is ancient magic vs what's in the repositories and the connection between that and the more common magic vs dark magic).
Spoilers I’m holding on to the idea that this quest is supposed to influence our choice of if we use the ancient magic or keep it contained. Seb started off with good intentions but it sent him down a downward spiral, similar to Isidora. The difference being with isidora we only saw memories, but with seb we witnessed first hand a close friend descend into madness. Seeing as how we saw two people get destroyed by a lust for power, it might make us think twice about whether we try to use the ancient magic or keep it contained
Ominis is just the realist MVP. He's there for Sebastian, he's there for Anne, and truly the fact that he's willing to make that hard decision with main shows he's there for them as well. I haven't gone much lore digging on any of the NPCs yet. But I hope there is some info for Ominis AND Anne because she really blasted a whole room of inferi like she wasn't ready to hack up a lung the whole time.
Bruh I like this storyline more than the Ranrok, THE FATE OF THE WIZARDING WORLD AND SAVE THE WORLD stuff. I think the game would have been stronger if they focused on a more personal and "small scale" main story like this.
Yeah honestly after finishing the game it kinda felt “unsatisfying” it could’ve had more impact if they focused on the storyline and made it better.. the graphics are top notch but the story is meh.
@@jim6532I mean, yeah, but… it wasn’t right if Solomon to shut Sebastian down like that either. I get that he thought it would be cruel to Anne, but he didn’t take the time to sit down and talk with Sebastian either. I mean, that Boy has never known life without her, of course he would refuse the possibility. And it would have been Solomon’s job to talk him through that, but he didn’t.
I like that the choice to turn Sebastien is not based on the absolute morality of "good and evil", but more a personal morality of "how far is too far". As a twin myself, the whole storyline made me ask myself "how far would I go to save *my* sister?" (I'd like to think I'd go as far as Sebastien). Sebastian hands down has the best storyline of the three main side characters in my opinion.
I'm gonna be a bad guy here, i'd go even further for my sister, but, i did send him to Azkaban for what he did, after all, i do think, Solomon, being an ex auror, probably worked his ass investigating for a cure for Anne, i won't believe that he didn't unless we get a background story that says otherwise, and probably he was so angry with sebastian, because he saw his own path on him, making the mistake of going to far to search a cure, and losing everything else on the process? I'd like to think, Anne did know what Solomon did, and that's why she didn't hate him.
I'm also a twin and we're super close like it portrays the Sallow siblings to be. I would 100% do the same if I were in Sebastian's situation. Like no second thoughts about it. She's been there since day one, we know each other better than we know ourselves, and I could never even imagine my life without her.
If just finnish the game and Sebastian and Ominis storyline was by far the most interesting part of the story. I cant believe at the end Sebastian is gone and Ominis was sad and alone. Who had that great idea?...
@@Acuas Technically, if Sebastian was exaggerating one way, Solomon was exaggerating the other. Because from some points of view, it is hypocritical that Solomon used the unforgivable curses in the past but that, even though he regretted having done so, instead of warning Sebastian to prevent him from making his mistakes, he instead criticized him and judged. And Solomon was no longer looking for a cure. He had given up. And that's the reason why Sebastian checked with the dark arts to see if he could find it. And Sebastian's reasoning is justified because even with muggle medicine, to find the antidote you have to know the poison. I mean, even Doctor Strange used dark magic when it was necessary. The truth is that Solomon was a purist who saw everything in black and white. Sebastian may have provoked him when he destroyed the relic (of which we never knew whether it could really have saved Anne or not), but Solomon chose to react to that provocation instead of trying to calm him. And when Sebastian killed him with the Avada Kedavra, he got hindsight afterwards. it's true that when you use curses you have to really want it, but I think that means you have to want it at the moment you use them, not in general. So it makes sense that after killing him he regretted doing it. Because his was an impulse dictated by anger and hatred. Because after all, Solomon, instead of saving him from himself, imposed himself with arrogance, and repressed him until he exploded.
I mean, you might be right, the only way to know everything, is if somehow we get a DLC or another game, where we can see all the story, without that, all we can do is theory craft, and as far as that goes, I really would say that Solomon did try, we don't know if he was still trying, or found something no one else knows and that's why he stopped, the only thing about the entire story I don't like, is the fact that we the player didn't try to use ancient magic to cure her after the story, maybe this is all for a second game, or a DLC, I at least hope it's not the last game we see, even if I found the game lacking some things (would have loved to start from year 1, transform into an animagus, and finish school), it was fun, so I really would like to see more.@@lpallad1
As a fellow Slytherin and purveyor of the dark arts, naturally I had to stick up for my boy Sebastian, after all, I would never have known the unforigiveable curses without him.
@@danielzayt6678 Oh sure I egged him on every step of the way so that I could unlock the secrets that Salazar Slytherin left behind, but I had his back at every critical moment. I defended Sebastian's actions to Ominis, and Solomon, and kept him out of Azkaban. I would have also done everything in my power to reconcile him and Anne if the option was available.
I like the idea of learning all of the Forbidden spells from him and spamming them like crazy every chance you can, but then give him in "because he deserves punishment".
@@RandomMackem0069 honestly Avada Kedavra is not a bad smell compared to stuff like bombarda Maxima which you can use to make people explode from the inside out
@@RandomMackem0069 You'd think so, but your character seems to be above literally ALL of the rules. You get to go in and out of, and take stuff from, people's houses and the professor's offices. Once the missions are over, you don't get in trouble for going in the restricted section or the Falculty wing. And notice how the teachers (especially Professor Weasley) always bring up that they know all the dangerous things you're up to and do nothing about it. The only person who cares about you breaking any rules is Sebastian's uncle; but that douche was such a stickler for the rules that he disowned his nephew for saving his niece's life 😅
The uncle was such an ahole. He could have handled things much better. Even if the curse on Anne can’t be reversed he didn’t have to be such a d1ck about it. Then he just starts attacking both kids while they are also getting attacked by the inferi instead of helping them then dealing with them AFTER they are out of danger. Yeah not turning Sebastian in.
But we told him multiple time that Dark arts are dangerous. He would learn consequences of his actions but in another hand i'm feeling very very sad for Anne who will be alone if Dementhor give a kiss to Sebastian. And in another hand he's our friend so its not fair that we must decide his final fate...
@@mabilleaudrey2154wouldn’t matter if a dementor kissed him, using an unforgivable curse on a human is a life sentence in Azkaban, and considering he did it once to us and once to his uncle, he would never see the light of day again. Either way Anne is all alone
Yeah, I don't get people saying Sebastian 'was in the wrong', when his neurotic uncle Solomon is verbally abusive to him throughout the entire story and rejects all hope of helping Anne even when it wasn't dark magic. Then Solomon tries murder two children - his nephew and his nephew's best friend - in a God-damned *flaming tornado,* with full intent to burn them both to a crisp and leave their bodies there to rot, yet Sebastian is the crazed murderer here?! His uncle literally tries to burn us both to death yet Sebastian has somehow 'gone too far' by casting Avada Kedavra on him in a fury. He had every right. His uncle ruined their chances of helping Anne, attempted murder, and if he had been allowed to live after losing the fight would have turned him and the player in to Azkaban. Don't forget how he said Anne dying would be preferable to Sebastian using Imperio to save her life. Solomon never wanted to see either of them healthy, he was an abusive figure who wanted both his young relatives to suffer and went out of his way to make sure they did. Sebastian wasn't morally challenged, he needs therapy after everything he's been through.
@The Northwoods Nomad because it probably was going on for a long time already and his family is just fed up Sebastian never listens to reason he's obsessed with finding a cure and doesn't take any one else's feelings into account. He wasnt a good kid. He already knew unforgivable curses before they go in Sanitarium. He doesn't care about the pain he is causing others in his life he only cares about funding a cure. They already tried everything that wasn't insanely secret or dark magic. But Sebastian wouldn't stop. It was likely going on for years before this. And after what happened to his parents his makes his obsession even worse because both his parents died for their obsessions and he doesn't care. They were trying to live the happiest life they could but Sebastian was hurting the family with this at this point when they've done every reasonable step to try and cure her. If he just did a few things that were wrong then it'd be understandable but Sebastian almost never makes the right choices and is always harming people or himself.
My head Canon is that a grown as man was throwing curses to minors, specially me that have nothing to do with the situation, even though there were other enemies, so he got what he deserved
Sebastian is well intentioned but very evidently is spiraling out of control for lack of any adult actually helping him. Solomon failed Seb really badly, not enough to deserve death but I’m not really crying over the man. But after so many pleading warnings from his friends the only real way his spiraling would stop is if he faced consequences. But he needs help not Azkaban I have nephews the same age and my auntie would just constantly come out like “hun your fear and frustration are so valid but you’re gunna end up in jail if you keep doing this even if I don’t turn you in this time” Also just poor Anne
The ONLY reason I agree with you here is because Anne is the biggest victim and she doesn't really want to see her brother rot...however... If he had killed the loved one of someone else, they would likely want him locked up to get some form of justice and closure, and in that case he absolutely should be.
@@Psycho-go5yr if his fate wasn’t going to be his misery being feasted on by dementors for the rest of his life in Azkaban then I would feel less inclined to keep him out. Then again we don’t know what the Ministry will do with him. He absolutely deserves to be expelled tho. I feel like just getting expelled but not thrown into Azkaban would be a pretty decent in-between for Anne. Her brother doesn’t rot but she doesn’t have to see him when the DLC to heal her inevitability comes out and she comes back to school (please for the the love god game, let me save her)
@@Psycho-go5yr Don't forget that Dementhor in Azkaban gives kisses to those who were accused of murder. I don't really want have Sebastian's death on my conscience when he already lost everything by doing his actions. Her sister turned her back on him, same as Ominis. Only us remained and we just can let a friend down when he seems to regret his action. Unfortunatly with those kind of person, they must do the irreparrable to really understand what they did.
I didn’t turn him in. I’m glad I did that because he gets time to better grasp his actions and what led him there. It could even lead to him renouncing the dark arts and finding ways to properly redeem himself. Sending him to Azkaban is like a final sentence. He gets no redemption and will likely never be seen again. Then it’s hypocritical of us because we helped him and learned a few things from him. He also helped us a lot. If they were to do a sequel to this game I really hope they choose to keep Sebastian and Ominis’ story TOGETHER. One without the other wouldn’t feel right. Plus they’re both quite popular alongside Poppy (sorry Natty)
As much as I disagree with Sebastian’s actions during his mission chain, I can’t turn him in when we know what places like Azkaban do to people like Sirius or even Anne from the game and Avada Kadavra pretty much guarantees that. Granted, we don’t know what he’ll do with this chance, but I do hope that he would be more open to listening and looking for alternatives if they continue the story with, hopefully, some DLC.
@@Cibbic It's almost like he is a kid, and might not deserve a life sentence of being tortured in Azkaban by dementors. Should he be punished? Hell yeah. Is Azkaban the answer, I doubt it.
@@fugustogamer7512 doesn't matter what we think. That's how it works in that world . The sooner you use that spell , you know you're in deep trouble. Pretty sure they knew this before using that spell so take accountability and let's not use age as an excuse when clearly they knew what they were doing. He didn't even feel sorry when he killed the uncle. why should I feel sorry for him?
@@Cibbic I mean it does matter what we think, due to it being our choice in the game. As for him not regretting it, you clearly ignored the parts where you speak him later in the undercroft where he expresses remorse, and regret. In the immediate aftermath he was clearly confused, full of adrenaline, and likely in shock. He is even so distraught about it, he is trying to convince himself he had to do it, which again if you speak to him just a little later after he thinks on his own, he regrets doing it.
Telling you friend that what he did wrong is showing your a true friend. don't just go with everything he says is right it like the say the customers are always right which is false and stupid as a host of Applebee's. He killed his uncle out of hate, who says he won't kill again out of hate, when does the killing stop, He need to understand the consequences of his actions
The one is about entering a forbidden section in the library the other about murdering his uncle who took care of him and his sister. Totally the same…
Turning him in so he suffers in azkaban in just cruel, hes a kid with a good heart trying to do the right thing for his sister and his uncle was being a massive dick every step of the way, even attacking him and the player at the end, so it could even be argued seb using the killing curse was done in self defense. Besides if he didn't kill his uncle, solomon would've reported us to the headmaster and we would've very likely gotten expelled and dooming hogwarts and wizarding kind to the goblins so yeah. Not to mention kinda hypocritical to turn him in when we're murdering dark wizards/goblins left n right
Not only that but Azkaban is genuinely one of the worst prison systems I’ve seen. People lose their minds after beings there for merely months. Doing that to a child is just fucked honestly.
The Sebastian storyline was good, but it had the potential to be great. It is clear the writers had a clear goal in mind with the story and didn't really consider the player's experience going through it. There are several points in the quest line that feels very contrived. Like how Uncle Solomon immediately shuts down any attempt of Sebastian's to cure his sister, instead of trying to get him to actually understand the situation. Or how Sebastian goes from friend to psycho and back again whenever the story needs him to be irrational. There were several situations where I thought it would have been great to let the player character intervene or take initiative, but instead we're mostly a passive observer who's just along for the ride. Wouldn't it be great if Sebastian actually hesitated at some points and you could influence him? Like, he's getting second thoughts about the whole thing because Ominis argued against meddling with dark magic, and you could maybe tempt him down the dark path, or you could encourage him to look for a different and better solution. A branching quest line where one path has you driving a wedge between Sebastian and Ominis as you delve deeper into the mysteries of the dark arts, where a more reasonable Solomon tries to talk Sebastian of the ledge and you can kill him to stop his meddling or drive Sebastian to do it, and actually find a cure to Anne's curse by having Sebastian sacrificing Ominis. Another path might let us discover a non-dark method of saving Anne, but at great personal sacrifice for Sebastian. Something that actually gave the player some actual agency.
That's a really interesting idea! It's kind of parallel to the scriptorium part where you can choose to receive the cruciatus curse or cast it on Sebastian. It's like the theme of would you sacrifice yourself to keep your friends out of harm's way, or would you sacrifice your friends if it meant getting closer to your goals? Either way don't hurt our MVP Ominis though. He doesn't deserve it. xD
wasnt sudden solomon has gradually lost hope after searching to no avail is my understanding, doesnt seem too contrived or anything thats just solomons flaw as a human being. And its normal for people to be erratic like sebastien was. you have to consider all the emotions and shit he was dealing with, the panic and frustration can get to you at some points and then when youre out of it you realize that it was wrong. the only parts i really feel like seemed contrived were near the end, i dont think sebastien really had any reason to kill his uncle, and he seemed way too cool with it afterwards. also him just immediately teaching you the spell afterwards was hilarious. i 100 percent agree with everything you said in that second paragraph though us being able to manipulate the story and the characters emotions more would be amazing and really give this game an even darker vibe. i sort of hate how friendly and happy go lucky your character is throughout the game when thats not what im tryna be
I got a feeling Ominis likes Anne. Like the way he said Seb and her lost their parents and he almost lost Anne. I feel like they’d be really cute together. Especially since he is best friends with Sebastian
I also just learned that even after you complete his questline, if u have chosen mot to learn any of the curses, he canstill teach them to u if u speak to him in the undercroft, provided you didnt send him to Azkaban.
Hufflepuff here, I couldn't turn Sebastian in. Not only was he there for us but he never had any malicious intent, all he wanted to do was save his sister. (Spoiler ahead) Another reason is, if you play Hufflepuff the quest leading up to meeting Jackdaw in the forest is different depending on your house. The Hufflepuff quest sends you to Azkaban and you see first hand what happens when someone is wrongfully sent to that place, I couldn't let Sebastian turn into what I saw...
@@ArikarinBluefire planning on doing 4 100% playthroughs of each house. 2 male characters for Gryffindor and Slytherin and 2 Female characters for Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff. I was going to do Ravenclaw after I finish my first playthrough as Griffindor, but I may actually do Hufflepuff instead. For some reason I thought Azkaban was a ps exclusive quest. Seeing that it is related to Jackdaw I now want Hufflepuff to be my next playthrough.
That look on his face when he dropped his wand is enough for me. He obviously feels bad enough for doing what he did but I'm honestly not there yet and am currently crushing on sebastian so I'm also a little biased In my opinion of him but it's not like he actually had malicious intent. I mean yes he obviously wanted to kill uncle right then and there but that look of regret on his face and how things are going to be from here from now on is going to be hard enough on him. He's just a kid. There has to be another option for him and seriously his uncle had to destroy the relic for controlling the infiri while we're surrounded by them? I know he's mad but that was just poor thinking...
You can always tell which decision is the 'wrong' one in the game because they give you a chance to change your mind lol. But I really like the ending where you don't turn him in. It solidifies their friendship as a trio because you literally help your best friend cover up a murder. Might as well be a blood pact at that point. I just wish you could still get those Ominis lines at the end if you stick by Sebastian-- or just more Ominis lines in general
Yes! Almost wanted to turn Sebastian in because that's the only way I'd get more Ominis content (hence how i ended up in this video). It's so sad that he gets gaslighted and cut off in favour of Sebastian :(
not really a murder. yes he could have just beat his uncle wiht another spell but in the heat of hte moment he let his emotions get ht best of him. but in the end the uncle attacked 2 teenage boys whilst they were also getting attacked by inferi without even letting either one of them defend themselves or explain what was going on. it really was a case of self defense but the only bad part is sebastian used a curse where the intention is to murder. though he obviulsy regretted his decision immediatley afterwareds.
Not always. When Garreth asked me to steal the feather I originally said no but then he gave me a second chance and told me it was no big deal so j caved and said okay. Sharp had only one fwooper feather and he did notice it was gone and got kinda mad. I reloaded and Garreth respected my decision and sharp praised not getting coerced. I decided from then to stick with my gut one choices even if they ask me to confirm.
@@victoriaanne6332 I feel like saying no is the wrong decision though. sharp does get a little annoyed but if you take responsibility for it he respects you for it. Did you still get the honeydukes quest from Garreth after refusing to get the feather for him?
Turning Sebastian in is a VERY hypocritical thing to do since all the players that accepted learning the three curses have likely used it tons of times on enemy’s
Anyone else think the dark relic and/or Salazar Slytherin's spellbook maybe negatively influenced Sebastian's behaviour, similar to how one of the horcruxes affected Harry etc? Stoking his desperation to find a cure and his fear of losing Anne, along with his animosity with his uncle and his misplaced hatred of Goblins. Especially near the end, one minute he was hopeful our Ancient Magic could help Anne, then the next he's having a party with Inferi. I definitely didn't turn him in. I really enjoyed Sebastian as a companion, despite some of his questionable behaviour. Besides, dude had it rough: orphaned young, lives with uncle who is an unsupportive and aggressive ahole, then his twin sister is cursed to live in pain and waste away in front of him. Rotting in Azkaban as Dementor chum wouldn't have changed what happened. He seemed genuinely remorseful and grateful we stood by him. Him and Ominis were the best. 💚🐍🩶
I thought it was possible but at the same time I think he'd do the same thing without the book. All the stuff he had to already do to get to the point where he has the book and was reading it was evil already. It's not a horcrux do it shouldnt have that same ability. Only things with a 'soul' can do that. It's possible it could I guess but it's really unlikely it has a life of its own like the other things. Sebastian would have pushed it until he landed in Azkaban even if he wasnt turned in he's a villain that's hard to see as evil but he doesn't care about his friends and his obsession with obtaining the power to be his sister at the cost of everything or everyone is psychotic. Even his family doesn't want him to keep searching for a cure but he will not stop even if really bad things happen.
@@user-un8jx8yo7z No. Hindsight came to him after killing his uncle, and he showed sincere consideration for his friends, and sincere desire to want to redeem himself for what he did.
I feel bad, but i did turn him in. He kept pushing away his responsibility after killing the uncle after Anne destroyed the book. it was his fault, her fault, not Sebastians fault. It seemed like nothing would ever stop him. Even though i was playing slytherin, my gut was that he was going to keep hurting people, Anne, Ominis if we didnt turn him in. But I still regret it.
I did the same for the same reasons. He was still justifying his actions somehow so he didn't learn from his mistakes even after all that. I like Sebastian a hell of a lot but it had to be done...
I turned him in too justifying his actions made me mad, he killed his uncle with a curse that is unlockable so he didn't have a chance of living, Anne didn't want any part of it, and omminis was right he takes things to far. I does hurt turning him in but its the right thing to do for you, him and everyone else in his life
@@ManDyterbrooo same. I stared at the screen hoping there was another way but I had to turn him in. When he hilled his uncle and Anne saw so she destroyed the journal he got mad at her saying "what have you done" even though literally seconds ago he just killed a family member. That's when I knew he's turned into a cold hearted person
true Ominis really should be like: "Am i to turn you in as well, you hit Solomon with Crucio 7 times during that fight, honestly Sebastian did him a favour"
I don’t spoiler alert: San Bakar used it on Isadora he clearly knew the spell and he is a keeper. Knowing it isn’t wrong but Sebastian went a little too far even though his uncle started it.
…. Yet here i am a slytherin and i feel so conflicted. I’ve learned 0 curses. And i feel like I can’t turn him in still. Anne shouldn’t lose both of them.
I sincerely wish that they didn't cut the moral and relationship feature. Then our choice may have an impact, and we could have 'saved' Sebastion from going down this path. I love this quest, love the banter that Sebastian and Ominis have with each other when we are together. Wish more side quests are like this, with a little story behind, it's the only moment that makes the game actually feels like an RPG instead of a solving-puzzle adventure game with grinding activities. :(
Even though Sebastian committed a pretty big crime, I couldn't bring myself to send him to Askaban. I'm not against him being punished for his actions, but Askaban is literally like hell on earth, littered with Dementors that suck out all your joy until there's nothing left. He's 15 for crying out loud. No 15 year old should have to go through that when there's still room to grow and change. If he were an adult it'd be a different story. Plus his uncle was an ass who didn't even bother to try and see things from Sebastian's point of view. He had no sympathy for him and he gets none from me. Sure, he didn't deserve death. But I'm not sad about him not being around anymore
Sebastian taught me a lot of spells and all available Unforgivable curses. He didn't hesitate or gave assignments for me to learn stuff. He does not deserve to be turned in. His side quests and Poppy were the most interesting
Why I didn't turn him in is because 1. Sebastian is a cool dude 2. I would be a hypocrite to turn him in because I learned the dark arts from him. 3. As Anne mentioned, he's already suffering the consequences because he feels bad for killing his uncle.
I mean I turned him in even aftet learning 2 of the unforgivable curses but that was because I thought he was really spiraling out of control. At most I just use Imperio for crowd control.
Tough choice but I choose not to turn him in. If it was just prison, I would probably have done it. But giving him, or anyone else to dementors when there is a chance they might be redeemed or rehabilitated. NO. And I believe he really will try to make up for what he did, and he learned a hard but valuable lesson, sadly. No, I can't turn him in if I'm playing a character even remotely like me. I would only give up on a friend or family member if I thought they were a threat to others and would kill again.
@@jermainejackson2870 Ok... Would I personally choose to go to Azkaban or a Muggle Prison. A real prison would be populated by humans who at most could torture my body and mind, but they couldn't take away my soul. Dementors cause you to relive your worst memories over and over without a second's reprieve. It has to be worse than anything any human can do to you because it would be unique to each person. Literally, a hell of your own making and you can never escape it, not for a moment, until you die (this reminds me of a few Twighlight Zone episodes... truly a great series) Hopefully, then you would finally be free. Buy, there is always the possibility of having your soul sucked out by a dementor. No afterlife ever, and worst, would you be aware of yourself inside the dementor because you wouldn't be dead, the soul is eternal? I'd take my chances in a Muggle Prison, Thank you very much.
and yet even if you save him, the cutscene of the ending Ann appears but no Sebastian so WTF was she cured or is she just for the ceremony, really each story feels so rushed and incomplete specially the main story, the worst part you cant ride along and do world exploration with any of the friends to actually feel something at the end lol
The game feels really lonely after you beat the main quests and 3 relationship quest lines. I wish you could interact with more people, especially the students at hogwarts. Feels extra isolating when you’re surrounded by so many people but can’t even talk to them, let alone bring one of your best buds to explore with you
I played Slytherin the first time and Sebastian was my ride or die. I loved his character. I could see his descent into darkness and was totally torn about practicing dark arts with him, but I still wanted to help him try to find a cure no matter the cost. He really had the best intentions and his uncle was just making everything worse, especially attacking him in the catacombs rather than trying to help him. It wasn't until Sebastian made the comment about the MC being ignorant about goblins that I got kind of fed up, but I still couldn't turn him in. I like getting to see more of Ominis in the other ending just because he's my favorite character, but I feel getting Sebastian expelled and most likely sent to Azkaban would just put him on the path to being another Victor Rookwood, not to mention the torture he would endure at only 15 years old. Yes, what he did to his uncle and the goblin under the Imperius curse was unforgivable and that darkness and willingness to take a life will always be there inside him, but at least being at school with the people who love him would be more constructive. He deserved to be punished, but I was also thinking about Anne and Ominis too. They would have no one if Sebastian was arrested. That decision impacts more than just him. The consequences will just have to be for Sebastian to live his life knowing what he did and that the two most important people in his life will never forgive him for it.
I truly love the concept of found family and dynamic between Anne/Seb/Ominis, and yes, if you turned Sebastian in, Ominis will get hurt A LOT too, I mean, Anne already accepted her fate in some way before the whole game started, now she lost her uncle and her beloved twin, Sebastian will rot in jail and Ominis? Hell, he will lost the most important 2 friends/family in his life...and he still got to deal with his shitty family, probably will pay some visits to Sebastian and look after Anne till her last days and watch her die...sometimes, those who are alive suffer the most (in my option ofc)
Ominis and Anne agreed that he should be punished for his actions so i went with it. No regrets. Sebastian is an awesome friend and i'm sure he understands.
If a friend of yours killed someone in front of you... You would keep his/her secret? Like, really imagine it Imagine a similar situation, where your friend is obsessed with something and will literally do ANYTHING to get that. Would u keep the secret? Honestly, although he is a kid I believe that's too much... Plus, if he did it once for pure obsession.... He'll do it again. Then, it is not about him, but the safety of others.
Even as a goodie two shoes (maybe especially because of that) I couldn't turn Sebastian in. Like our dude said it's not like this will be a reoccurring thing, it was a wound to his soul that tortures him towards redemption. If we threw him to the dementirs there would be NO chance that he'd improve (in fact it would likely make him a dark wizard if he ever got out).
i didn't want to snitch but killing your own family is an insane line to cross, especially when Seb repeatedly ignored Anne's wishes. what he said after killing his uncle -- that he "had no choice" -- was so deluded it scared me. in real life, such violence would give me second thoughts. if Seb is willing to murder family and leave his sister without a caretaker, all in his obsessive chase for a "cure," he would absolutely kill me for standing in the way, too. we saw what happened with Isidora. she needed to be put away, but was trusted to do the right thing by her closest friends and mentors. i wouldn't make the same mistake. i chose to punish Sebastian, and i stand by it, even as a Slytherin. i've never used Aveda Kedavra on my own kin... and never would, unless i was going to be killed.
A year later but I finally found a reasonable comment. As much as I liked Sebastian during my playthrough I have to say that him knowing all of the unforgivables at the age of 15/16 is concerning..Why would someone want to learn these? He had always fancied the dark arts even without Anne was cursed. I have mixed feelings about him.. And when Ominis tells him that Anne burried his uncle alone he says 'I had to do it' and then seconds later after Ominis mentions that Anne is considering turning him in he is like 'turn me in?. Then he turns to the main character angry and anxious and says 'I never wanted to hurt my uncle- I-' which is obviously a way of self-defence trying to convince the MC that he regrets what he's done so we don't turn him in. It's as if he manipulates us again (let's not forget that he is adept at manipulating) into thinking that he has ackwnoledged what he's done. In reality he still thinks thats he is on the right.
I really thought I would turn him in. But then I thought about the scene my character saw in Azkaban (I'm Hufflepuff). And I realized that I didn't think he deserved such a fate. Prison is one thing, prison with dementors is inhumane. It's the first time I really understood why Dumbledore was so against the dementors being there in the main books.
The entire questline was the best part of the game for me. Only problems I have is the option on what to do with him, it's either one or the other and one of them is too much for a child. Then there's the fact that you can't get Ominus in the undercroft saying sweet things like, 'you've proven to be a true/friend' unless you send Sebastian to Azkaban. At the end of the day as a Hufflepuff I couldn't do it, out of loyalty, and for my slytherin I couldn't do that to my fellow housemate whom I learned the curses from because that would be extremely hypocritical. That's like saying I should turn myself in as well. Basically I personally think he's suffering enough, what with having killed a family member and having driven Anne away whom may never forgive him and has gone somewhere and not told him. For me, pretty much severing his relationship with his sister possibly forever is punishment enough
"I didn't mean to" - Sebastian Later on, while teaching you the curse , "You have to mean it." - Sebastian Which is it, Sebastian? I learned it and turned him in, lol.
There should have been a morality system, where if we go dark and side with seba then we fail or turn Anne into a vegetable. Or if we go good and side with Ominis then we find the cure
It's interesting how turning Sebastian in sends him down an even darker path (Ominis mentions how Sebastian's hatred towards goblins and dark wizards only grew). Also Ominis and Anne are absolutely miserable losing him, understandably, and it's interesting to see here how they're quite unsure if they did the right thing. I had never seen this ending, as I always saved him despite for what he did. Really hope we get to see more of Seb and Omi later!
People seem to forget that part of the unforgivable curses are that you have to have the intent to do what the curse does. Otherwise, it doesn't work. Sebastian didn't want to just stop his uncle. He wanted to kill him. Then, after that happened, he doesn't really feel remorse for what he has done to his uncle, only how Ann is reacting to him.
@@SnowDreamFlake You don't like him, that's fair. No one's going to be liked by everyone. However, I don't know about everyone else, but for me I like him because I have a twin sister myself and Sebastien's questline made me ask myself how far I would go to help my sister were she sickly. I love it when a story does that.
@nikaz5 yes, he had the intention to kill his uncle. It was horrible, but he did it for the right reasons. And he may not have felt remorse in the moment, but you can tell that he was struggling with his decision. He lost himself, and once that finally settles in and he realizes what he’s done, he does feel remorse. He’s a very complex character, and this is a very complex situation, but even though I don’t agree with his decision, I can’t help but feel awful for him, my heart breaks for him because he deserved so much more
@@SnowDreamFlakeit’s a lot more complicated than you think. What he did was wrong and unforgivable, but nearly everyone would have done the same if it was to protect or cure a loved one. He’s not a psycho, he’s not a monster, he’s human. He’s so much more complex than “good” or “evil”. No one is simply good or evil, there is so much more depth to it than that, so many more layers to peel back. Sebastian is the prime example of a tragic character. He deserved so much better than what he got. He only ever had the best intentions for his sister at heart. I don’t think it’s fair to damn him for that
Honestly all these "he's a good lad" comments are a little unnerving. The Killing Curse isn't like a gun were you can accidentally kill someone you have to want to kill for the spell to even work. Him saying "I never wanted to hurt my uncle" is a lie. The whole time he just keeps saying he's doing this for her Anne when it was clear that he was doing it for himself. You see that at the point before Solomon comes in he's talking about using the Dark Magic from Anne's curse. I honestly wish that when he first found they relic you could team up with Ominis and take it from him then and there. In the end I didn't turn him in because Azkaban isn't a placed I'd send my worst enemies. It wouldn't help and would have likely just driven him even more mad. I really wish Anne had a larger part in this story. Sebastian claims everything he's doing was for her but both he and Solomon took away all of her autonomy. They both pretended they knew what was best for her. Ominis was the only person that was taking Anne's thoughts and opinions into consideration.
I wouldn’t turn him in because of him knowing the Curses, it’s what he did with them He was willing to sacrifice a village to save his sister, who wouldn’t approve being saved this way He would if given the chance kill Goblins indiscriminately because of his growing hate toward them He killed his uncle in cold blood In his current state of mind, if left free he would make more dark decisions that risk other lives The fact is he is dangerous either way as much as we grown to care about him Our character, if they learn the Curses would use them Dark Wizards and monsters that threaten Hogwarts in self defense in contrast
@@Cibbic definitely not. But I still think it’s odd since they are teenagers and that’s an especially notable time teens start noticing others their age and form romantic relationships. But you’re right. Not every game will have that option. It just seems to be super common with open world RPGS that I found it strange they didn’t do that.
Was a hard choice, but I value loyalty, so I didn't turn him in, but if the STory continued and he did it again to an inocent person (civilian) then even loyalty can't justify his forgivenes...
lot of people in the comments making excuses for Sebastian murdering his uncle. you shouldn't get to duck consequences because the person you murdered was a bit mean and you feel bad now.
A year later but I finally found a reasonable comment. As much as I liked Sebastian during my playthrough I have to say that him knowing all of the unforgivables at the age of 15/16 is concerning..Why would someone want to learn these? He had always fancied the dark arts even without Anne was cursed. I have mixed feelings about him.. And when Ominis tells him that Anne burried his uncle alone he says 'I had to do it' and then seconds later after Ominis mentions that Anne is considering turning him in he is like 'turn me in?. Then he turns to the main character angry and anxious and says 'I never wanted to hurt my uncle- I-' which is obviously a way of self-defence trying to convince the MC that he regrets what he's done so we don't turn him in. It's as if he manipulates us again (let's not forget that he is adept at manipulating) into thinking that he has ackwnoledged what he's done. In reality he still thinks thats he is on the right.
Whoever wants to turn Sebastian in, fair enough. But don't tell me he deserves to be expelled just for one case of killing his uncle while your character learns unforgivable curses and uses them on every single enemie.
Um. He deserves worse than expulsion for killing his uncle. And I personally didn’t learn the curses, so no hypocrisy there if I turn him in for the use of unforgivable curses. But I won’t because Azkaban is a horrible place, especially for a child and he’ll never redeem himself there. It’s literally torture there.
Sebastian despite trying to help his sister.. seems like a sociopath that can’t take accountability. I wonder how much of him healing his sister is more of an achievement for himself rather than having compassion for his sister.
I wonder what the dialogue in the ending will be if you don't process Sebastian side quest.
EDIT: Tested it, and he will not mention his uncle, but the other parts are basically the same. The quest will wait for you to finish even after the house cup(Sebastian is not in the cut scene).
Wish there could be an alternate ending for the Sallows, we already knew Rookwood cast the curse but the player just kill him anyway, instead of keeping him alive for information.
so you'll know about anne but you won't meet solomon and so on?
@@wakeshimutanemahazunakunam819 @Wakeshimutanemahazunakunamatittenopan No, I just didn't do the side quest that Seb kill his uncle, so he won't mention his uncle in 10:50. As I recall the quest that meet Solomon is a main quest.
@@user-timelord oh thank u
If u say no, no one should learn this skill, then u wont learn the avra kadebra
@@kevintww4038 yes you can still learn it by not turning in sabastion he will thank you and teach you any of the curses you didn’t learn
Ominis is probably the nicest descedent of Slazar Slytherin ever
yeah tho to be fair its kinda hard to be racist... when you're blind
and the reason he blind is probably incest... like come on... if it was a curse magic could likely fix it and since they cant. makes you think
He is considered the black sheep of his family line so makes sense/
weakest*
@@MclovinMclove'you ain't a psychopath mass murderer that makes you weak' K
He's basically the Sirius Black of the Gaunt family.
I wasn't sure whether to turn Sebastian in. I thought killing his uncle went too far, but then I remembered the wizard prison is essentially run by demons who steal your happiness and sanity and in my opinion no one deserves that fate.
His uncle was trying to kill him first. Uncle had to die. It was self-defense.
"in my opinion no one deserves that fate."
There are tons of people in real life who would deserve such a fate like all those people who torture and kill for fun/curiosity/stupid stuff.
But yeah, sebastian doesnt deserve it. If it were a normal prison I would consider turning him in but not askaban.
If it's like Voldemort, he deserves it cause he's pure evil and a very ambitious one. Meanwhile Sebastian... He's more like a misguided teenager, i really wish there's a different prison system for a person like him. Plus the Jacksaw accident.. She's blamed for something she didn't do, he died bcs of the ancient ruins blade. She suffered her whole life because of it
I want to hug sebastian 😔
Hopefully the ministry helps Sebastion because he wasn't getting help from his uncle and he wasn't listening to his friends regarding his use of dark magic. I doubt that they'll send a child to Azkaban, but it wouldn't surprise me if they did. He just needs adult guidance
wonder if there’s juvi-azkaban
And Dementhor will kisse him. Great ! I'm sure his sister would recovery of losing his brother for good.
Yes, they will, genius. The magical world is barbaric.
@@lolerie so it’s another reason to not let him down when he need us the most…
Personally I think Sebastian is a manipulating desperate young man who is ruthless and will try to save his sister through any means when he finds out about your power he manipulate you and even at the end what bothered me is she's beaten his uncle he's winning and to use a Arvada Kadabra you must mean it otherwise nothing will happen to you if you cast it on someone if you don't want him dead nothing happens
I snitched hard, he was annoying the whole story all I cared about was getting the curses.
me and my boy seb are taking over Hogwarts
I kinda wish there was something like community service for wizards… for the wizards who have done something bad but are truly regretting and want to improve… and not just Azkaban alone
“He must be turned in for casting the unforgivable curses”
Me who’s been spam casting them like a machine gun.
👀
I mean you probably only used them on bad people though. Frankly I think there should be more bad guys that use unforgivable curses in the game. You only ever see them do it in cutscenes.
@@destroyerblackdragon Sebastian only used it on a bad person
a good person would attack the walking corpses before trying to deal with the 2 children, not attack the children even if my boy Sebby hit him with that basic cast first
@@destroyerblackdragonthat would be a death sentence to anyone playing on hard mode
@@quietstew843 Well I don't think every bad guy should know the killing curse right away.
Me : "Sebastian killed one person, his uncle and he deserves to be in Azkaban"
Me : *killed thousands of poachers , ashwinder scouts etc*
If you talk to madam kogawa about her past and how her friend did something illegal. Kogawa said she never turned in her friend to the authorities because her friend’s fate was not for her to decide.
I think there’s some parallels to what happens with Sebastian.
Omg!!!!! This is such a good catch!!! I didn’t even realize….
Bro that was a totally forgettable line and yet it had a repercussion in the game, I'm liking this game even tho it treats you like an special peach all the way but still is a solid game
True.
But breaking a rule for a sport or killing someone just seem to be on vastly different levels to me.
*Madam kogawa did japanese philosophy unknowingly*
I’d let Anne decide tbh
I think Harry Potter moral code is really weird. You go to prison for killing someone with a spell specific for killing, but if you kill a person by incinerating, cutting in half or exploding with spells it´s ok
Right you think that the instant curse would be aploded since you can pit them out if there missury
@@mackenziej8980 I didn´t understand what you said. Sorry.
You can still go to prison for murder though, but even if you use Avada Kedavra and miss you still get life in Azkaban despite not killing anyone
My headcanon for that is - there's lots of reasons why you need a spell for fire or to cut something in half, but there's no purpose for the unforgivables except to harm and control others. That's why they're banned while spells like incendio and diffindo are not (confringo is apparently restricted since it's also an aggressive spell). It's like why in real life governments ban firearms, but they can't ban knives or mallets which can technically be used to kill people much more cruelly than a gun. These are tools that aren't supposed to be used for violence.
@@ComedyLoverGirl @Peacekeeper I haven´t thought of that! You´re totally right! But, still, I joke around because many times in the books or in the games it looks like that using the spell is much more of a problem then the killing itself. Along the game we kill a lot of bad guys with other spells but with the killing curse it becomes a issue while with the others is ok
The only side quest in the game with any sort of depth. By far the highlight of the game in my opinion. Imagine if we had more quests like this
Seeing Sebastian change over time is crazy. They did such a good job with his Arc. 😊
Yeah honestly I would have prefer they make this the main story and flush it out even more than that boring slug fest of a story lol
Disappointed there was no good ending, most games would at least incorporate an obscure list of criteria one must meet to achieve it, instead they just said “fck you Anne”
I loved Poppy’s
@@joshventura4761same, going to the dragon fights was one of my favorite missions with poppy
"The only thing worse than a dark wizard is a snitch." - Helga Hufflepuff
No way I'm sending my homie to Azkaban.
snitches get stiches
I did on purpose lol
No way. The only person that knows my character knows all 3 unforgivables and too much about ancient magic. Have fun in Azkaban!
snitches get bitches :b
Facts bro
honestly i wanted more of Ominis
sameee
He’s the most sane one.
Hopefully we get a sequel or dlc with more of him
ME TOO! I adore that blind boy. 💕
I didn't think people would like Ominis as much as I did. ❤️
Sebastian gave me strong Anakin Skywalker vibes. Using the dark arts as a last resort to save a loved one.
When Sebastian killed Solomon the music sounded really close to anakins betrayal. Anakin and Sebastian really are alike
Yes Chancellor Palpatine
@@AhsokaTano1999 Sebastian:YOU TURNED HER
AGAINST ME!!!!!
Solomon:You have done that yourself
Sebastian:YOU WILL NOT TAKE HER FROM ME!!!!
@@viloetmarsh3467 XD
Player: You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy the Sith, not join them! Bring balance to the force... not leave it in darkness!
I didn’t snitch on the homie
Facts , he might’ve been alittle bit of a prick a few times but we never snitch on the homie.
Cringe! Get what you need and then turn on your friends. That's the based and smart way.
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@@pha1337 sebastian, realistically, could help you become even more powerful with the dark arts.
Good, I'd call you the Goldensnitch if you did
"This relic can control dark magic, curses that cannot be cured. "
Also the Relic: Destroyed with absolute ease
If it would be a sitcom, the uncle would had sat on it while watching tv
@@mireiacastillo3970 Cue the audience OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
It was hand made as well, out of bones
Sebastian should have paid more attention to the words he said. Control the curse... not cure....
Nah it was the accio relic for me. Shouldnt you have to know the freaking name of the relic youre summoning like WTF.
Sebastian went down a very dark path, but his uncle is the one who set him on it. Seriously, every time you see Solomon he seems to go out of his way to fuel Sebastian's downward spiral.
Agreed with that take on Solomon... seemed to insist on 'giving up' instead of pursuing every single lead on trying to save his niece.
I mean his uncle was an ex Auror. He most definitely knew his ways with dark magic and we never really get to know why he left the Ministry with grudges. He was most likely right.
The thing that annoys me the most however, is not the uncle being an absolute asshole, but the fact that with the dialogue options the game gives you, you still DON'T have a choice. Even though I always picked the option that should realistically lead to stopping Sebastian, I was pushed towards the only outcome the devs wanted. I've never felt so disconnected from my character in a game, because my reactions and feelings were completely different. Hell, I was SCREAMING "Cast Expelliarmus or something" when Sebastian was ready to fight, KILL his uncle. Like let me knock both of them out and drag them out by force.
So I've chosen to turn Sebastian in. Yeah, I don't feel sorry for his uncle because he was an asshole - maybe didn't deserve death, but not my compassion either - but there's one important detail about Sebastian. He says he didn't want to hurt his uncle. But as Ominis says, the thing with unforgivable curses is that you have to MEAN it. To WANT to cast the spell in question. Whether it's causing pain, or killing someone. Sebastian WANTED to kill his uncle. There's no way around that. He could've used ANY spell in existence, but he chose Avada Kedavra. It goes for the Imperio curse as well.
I liked Sebastian in the first half of his story. His motives are definitely righteous and sweet in a way, but his methods are not. He's been warned several times, but never listened. Sure he was desperate, but as the main story teaches us - sometimes there IS no solution. Sometimes, there are fates worse than death and such a fate he's brought upon himself and Anne to be honest.
I like this questline a lot, because the actual answer as to Sebastian being in the right or wrong, bring guilty or innocent is not so clear.
Sebastian is just a teenager, his Twin is sick bc of a curse and your uncle just keep saying in the most rude way "it is what it is" and even kick you from your house... he is underage.... like wtf did you expect dummy ex auror...
Fully agree. I tried to make good choices throughout the game. Tho this quest line I took the dark path bc it felt more righteous than the, "good," path imo. Idk sabastion had his stupid moments for sure. Tho like everyone said. He was a naive teenager who wanted to help his sister. His uncle was a complete prick and tried to trash on him every chance he could get for him wanting to help his sister. Sabastion had good reason and was a good person altogether. Just fell down a very dark rabbit hole trying to do the right thing for his sister. Plus I couldn't betray sabastion after he went out of his way to take the fall for you during the restricted library mission. Dude was a real homie and I didn't regret standing up for him when he killed his uncle. You never get to find out if that relic could've saved Anne or not either bc the uncle destroyed it before you guys could try it out on the curse. No matter what. It's like sabastion said. His uncle gave up on them both and didn't seem to care about helping Anne and went as far as to sabotage you both for using dark magic to try to help someone.
@@polski8bit not really these who work the path of a Auror tend to not or never use the dark arts or even study the power or uses or how to cure injuries that came from curses or hex’s. The artifact that Sebastian found allowed him control the dark powers so if used in right way where u draw out the dark power out of her body while u get someone else use healing spells aswell as allow her to drink potions that give healing effect may save her. Just never get a chance to use it that way. At same time they afraid of such power so they never touch it these who do ether feel guilty n stop or turn all evil. Solomon shouldn’t of destroyed it without checking if it actual can save her the way I mentioned. And he shouldn’t of giving up should allow her live her life how she wants while not giving up but also living like it be her last day. All he did was give up n try force her twin brother give up. Sad that ending just him realises n feels guilty and not seeing her. Hoped she forgive him and mc kills Rookwood and she gets cured after his death or his death was required for her get better.
I really wish they hadn't abandoned the idea that we might have been able to save Anne with our ability. I was really looking forward to how that would pan out, but it seems like they cut that as well and just made sebastian's story more linear. I think it would have been really interesting where you have to choose whether to help Anne with your abilities (thus treading a similar path Isidora started down, possibly earning the distrust of the keepers) or not-- and if you don't help, then Sebastian gets desperate and uses the relic. Although they'd also have to talk about why 'manipulating emotions' equated to removing dark magic curses, but I think they could have done it if the main story had been more fleshed out (what actually is ancient magic vs what's in the repositories and the connection between that and the more common magic vs dark magic).
100%
I was expecting that to happen, but they missed that obvious plot point
right there is so much they really didn’t establish or fall through with
Maybe they could let us help her in a dlc
Spoilers
I’m holding on to the idea that this quest is supposed to influence our choice of if we use the ancient magic or keep it contained. Seb started off with good intentions but it sent him down a downward spiral, similar to Isidora. The difference being with isidora we only saw memories, but with seb we witnessed first hand a close friend descend into madness. Seeing as how we saw two people get destroyed by a lust for power, it might make us think twice about whether we try to use the ancient magic or keep it contained
@@quietstew843 but those choices don’t really do much of anything tbh.
Ominis is just the realist MVP. He's there for Sebastian, he's there for Anne, and truly the fact that he's willing to make that hard decision with main shows he's there for them as well.
I haven't gone much lore digging on any of the NPCs yet. But I hope there is some info for Ominis AND Anne because she really blasted a whole room of inferi like she wasn't ready to hack up a lung the whole time.
FOR REAL.
Anne really caught me- if not all of us of guard in that cutscene. Girl got a lot of fight in her
For real bruh. I need her to teach me how to use Incendio like she does. My Incendio, even with Mastery, is pretty shit.
Ominus is an angel. My bae deserves for every love. He is such a good heart boy 😭
@@Asriel_Cypher what traits do you have? I recommend stacking Concentration 3 if you have it
@@ajrod2005
I do have 3 on all set but it lost DPS to the Unforgivable 3 on all set.
Bruh I like this storyline more than the Ranrok, THE FATE OF THE WIZARDING WORLD AND SAVE THE WORLD stuff. I think the game would have been stronger if they focused on a more personal and "small scale" main story like this.
Yeah honestly after finishing the game it kinda felt “unsatisfying” it could’ve had more impact if they focused on the storyline and made it better.. the graphics are top notch but the story is meh.
@@katya5573 I was more emotionally invested in sebastian then the trials main quest
@@Jeremy-wp4yh same! I didn’t wanted to end and wanted it to progress more but was disappointed by its ending..
You’d say the same thing if it was reversed
@@katya5573 I know right, this storyline has every emotion attached!
Homie: "Here Ann, this might help you!"
Solomon:" sToP gIvInG hEr hOpE!!!"
He was using dark magic. This could have made it alot worse.
@@jim6532I mean, yeah, but… it wasn’t right if Solomon to shut Sebastian down like that either. I get that he thought it would be cruel to Anne, but he didn’t take the time to sit down and talk with Sebastian either. I mean, that Boy has never known life without her, of course he would refuse the possibility. And it would have been Solomon’s job to talk him through that, but he didn’t.
I like that the choice to turn Sebastien is not based on the absolute morality of "good and evil", but more a personal morality of "how far is too far". As a twin myself, the whole storyline made me ask myself "how far would I go to save *my* sister?" (I'd like to think I'd go as far as Sebastien).
Sebastian hands down has the best storyline of the three main side characters in my opinion.
I'm gonna be a bad guy here, i'd go even further for my sister, but, i did send him to Azkaban for what he did, after all, i do think, Solomon, being an ex auror, probably worked his ass investigating for a cure for Anne, i won't believe that he didn't unless we get a background story that says otherwise, and probably he was so angry with sebastian, because he saw his own path on him, making the mistake of going to far to search a cure, and losing everything else on the process? I'd like to think, Anne did know what Solomon did, and that's why she didn't hate him.
I'm also a twin and we're super close like it portrays the Sallow siblings to be. I would 100% do the same if I were in Sebastian's situation. Like no second thoughts about it. She's been there since day one, we know each other better than we know ourselves, and I could never even imagine my life without her.
If just finnish the game and Sebastian and Ominis storyline was by far the most interesting part of the story.
I cant believe at the end Sebastian is gone and Ominis was sad and alone.
Who had that great idea?...
@@Acuas Technically, if Sebastian was exaggerating one way, Solomon was exaggerating the other. Because from some points of view, it is hypocritical that Solomon used the unforgivable curses in the past but that, even though he regretted having done so, instead of warning Sebastian to prevent him from making his mistakes, he instead criticized him and judged. And Solomon was no longer looking for a cure. He had given up. And that's the reason why Sebastian checked with the dark arts to see if he could find it. And Sebastian's reasoning is justified because even with muggle medicine, to find the antidote you have to know the poison. I mean, even Doctor Strange used dark magic when it was necessary. The truth is that Solomon was a purist who saw everything in black and white. Sebastian may have provoked him when he destroyed the relic (of which we never knew whether it could really have saved Anne or not), but Solomon chose to react to that provocation instead of trying to calm him. And when Sebastian killed him with the Avada Kedavra, he got hindsight afterwards. it's true that when you use curses you have to really want it, but I think that means you have to want it at the moment you use them, not in general. So it makes sense that after killing him he regretted doing it. Because his was an impulse dictated by anger and hatred. Because after all, Solomon, instead of saving him from himself, imposed himself with arrogance, and repressed him until he exploded.
I mean, you might be right, the only way to know everything, is if somehow we get a DLC or another game, where we can see all the story, without that, all we can do is theory craft, and as far as that goes, I really would say that Solomon did try, we don't know if he was still trying, or found something no one else knows and that's why he stopped, the only thing about the entire story I don't like, is the fact that we the player didn't try to use ancient magic to cure her after the story, maybe this is all for a second game, or a DLC, I at least hope it's not the last game we see, even if I found the game lacking some things (would have loved to start from year 1, transform into an animagus, and finish school), it was fun, so I really would like to see more.@@lpallad1
rode with Sebastian till the very end
Cringe! Get what you need and then turn on your friends. That's the based and smart way.
@@pha1337 you’ve said the same thing to like 4 people bro just let them choose what they like💀
Dude was a real one. Didn’t snitch at the library, let us in on his undercroft secret, and even when he disagreed with us, he still had our back
He was my ride or die. I was so mad he wasn’t in the ending cut scene. We won, homie!! 🐍
@@IamCec um, no sorry, Ravenclaw won :)
As a fellow Slytherin and purveyor of the dark arts, naturally I had to stick up for my boy Sebastian, after all, I would never have known the unforigiveable curses without him.
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Seems like u were using him hahhaha
@@danielzayt6678 Oh sure I egged him on every step of the way so that I could unlock the secrets that Salazar Slytherin left behind, but I had his back at every critical moment.
I defended Sebastian's actions to Ominis, and Solomon, and kept him out of Azkaban. I would have also done everything in my power to reconcile him and Anne if the option was available.
Same man..... I just couldn't let him down. He didn't tell on me in the library either....smh Slytherin For Life 🐍
@@educatedfool5121 That is very Slytherin. Loyal to your true friends, along with using them in order for you to gain useful spells.
I was so invested in Sebastian's story. I couldn't bring myself to turn him in...even during my second playthrough 😭
It's not worth it. Turning him in ultimately hurts Anne and Ominis a lot more and sends him down an even darker path.
I like the idea of learning all of the Forbidden spells from him and spamming them like crazy every chance you can, but then give him in "because he deserves punishment".
Honestly the player should go to Azkaban for using the curses on people since that’s what supposed to happen
@@RandomMackem0069 honestly Avada Kedavra is not a bad smell compared to stuff like bombarda Maxima which you can use to make people explode from the inside out
@@plantainsame2049 using a curse on a human in the wizard world sends u to Azkaban for life if u get caught
@@RandomMackem0069 You'd think so, but your character seems to be above literally ALL of the rules. You get to go in and out of, and take stuff from, people's houses and the professor's offices. Once the missions are over, you don't get in trouble for going in the restricted section or the Falculty wing. And notice how the teachers (especially Professor Weasley) always bring up that they know all the dangerous things you're up to and do nothing about it.
The only person who cares about you breaking any rules is Sebastian's uncle; but that douche was such a stickler for the rules that he disowned his nephew for saving his niece's life 😅
curses aside he killed an innocent man. being mean doesn't mean you deserve to be killed. the people we use it on are murderers.
The uncle was such an ahole. He could have handled things much better. Even if the curse on Anne can’t be reversed he didn’t have to be such a d1ck about it. Then he just starts attacking both kids while they are also getting attacked by the inferi instead of helping them then dealing with them AFTER they are out of danger. Yeah not turning Sebastian in.
But we told him multiple time that Dark arts are dangerous. He would learn consequences of his actions but in another hand i'm feeling very very sad for Anne who will be alone if Dementhor give a kiss to Sebastian.
And in another hand he's our friend so its not fair that we must decide his final fate...
@@mabilleaudrey2154wouldn’t matter if a dementor kissed him, using an unforgivable curse on a human is a life sentence in Azkaban, and considering he did it once to us and once to his uncle, he would never see the light of day again. Either way Anne is all alone
Yeah, I don't get people saying Sebastian 'was in the wrong', when his neurotic uncle Solomon is verbally abusive to him throughout the entire story and rejects all hope of helping Anne even when it wasn't dark magic. Then Solomon tries murder two children - his nephew and his nephew's best friend - in a God-damned *flaming tornado,* with full intent to burn them both to a crisp and leave their bodies there to rot, yet Sebastian is the crazed murderer here?! His uncle literally tries to burn us both to death yet Sebastian has somehow 'gone too far' by casting Avada Kedavra on him in a fury. He had every right. His uncle ruined their chances of helping Anne, attempted murder, and if he had been allowed to live after losing the fight would have turned him and the player in to Azkaban. Don't forget how he said Anne dying would be preferable to Sebastian using Imperio to save her life. Solomon never wanted to see either of them healthy, he was an abusive figure who wanted both his young relatives to suffer and went out of his way to make sure they did. Sebastian wasn't morally challenged, he needs therapy after everything he's been through.
@@Shakala YES. You said it all right, Solomon was just so awfull to Sebastian
@The Northwoods Nomad because it probably was going on for a long time already and his family is just fed up Sebastian never listens to reason he's obsessed with finding a cure and doesn't take any one else's feelings into account. He wasnt a good kid. He already knew unforgivable curses before they go in Sanitarium. He doesn't care about the pain he is causing others in his life he only cares about funding a cure. They already tried everything that wasn't insanely secret or dark magic. But Sebastian wouldn't stop. It was likely going on for years before this. And after what happened to his parents his makes his obsession even worse because both his parents died for their obsessions and he doesn't care.
They were trying to live the happiest life they could but Sebastian was hurting the family with this at this point when they've done every reasonable step to try and cure her.
If he just did a few things that were wrong then it'd be understandable but Sebastian almost never makes the right choices and is always harming people or himself.
What annoyed me the most was the uncle (spoilers)
Showed up in the catacombs while we are surrounded by enemies and he starts attacking *US*
I had a problem with that too like fate enough Sebastian but me
I was busy trying to take out Inferi and he kept attacking me lol.
Yeah, the pacing felt weird. We should've faced the inferi first and then Solomon.
My head Canon is that a grown as man was throwing curses to minors, specially me that have nothing to do with the situation, even though there were other enemies, so he got what he deserved
@@TonicBlade That was me lol. I was staying out of the family bickering and trying to handle the side threat, but Solomon damn refused XD.
Sebastian is well intentioned but very evidently is spiraling out of control for lack of any adult actually helping him. Solomon failed Seb really badly, not enough to deserve death but I’m not really crying over the man. But after so many pleading warnings from his friends the only real way his spiraling would stop is if he faced consequences. But he needs help not Azkaban
I have nephews the same age and my auntie would just constantly come out like “hun your fear and frustration are so valid but you’re gunna end up in jail if you keep doing this even if I don’t turn you in this time”
Also just poor Anne
Fuck it, I regret it. Auntie is gunna save this sad boy. Throwing him to the system isn’t going to do anything. Fuck where’s my last save
Dude tried his best to raise him, and y'all still blame him for the kids actions
The ONLY reason I agree with you here is because Anne is the biggest victim and she doesn't really want to see her brother rot...however... If he had killed the loved one of someone else, they would likely want him locked up to get some form of justice and closure, and in that case he absolutely should be.
@@Psycho-go5yr if his fate wasn’t going to be his misery being feasted on by dementors for the rest of his life in Azkaban then I would feel less inclined to keep him out. Then again we don’t know what the Ministry will do with him. He absolutely deserves to be expelled tho. I feel like just getting expelled but not thrown into Azkaban would be a pretty decent in-between for Anne. Her brother doesn’t rot but she doesn’t have to see him when the DLC to heal her inevitability comes out and she comes back to school (please for the the love god game, let me save her)
@@Psycho-go5yr Don't forget that Dementhor in Azkaban gives kisses to those who were accused of murder. I don't really want have Sebastian's death on my conscience when he already lost everything by doing his actions. Her sister turned her back on him, same as Ominis. Only us remained and we just can let a friend down when he seems to regret his action.
Unfortunatly with those kind of person, they must do the irreparrable to really understand what they did.
I liked this side quest line more than the actual main quest
I didn’t turn him in. I’m glad I did that because he gets time to better grasp his actions and what led him there. It could even lead to him renouncing the dark arts and finding ways to properly redeem himself.
Sending him to Azkaban is like a final sentence. He gets no redemption and will likely never be seen again. Then it’s hypocritical of us because we helped him and learned a few things from him. He also helped us a lot.
If they were to do a sequel to this game I really hope they choose to keep Sebastian and Ominis’ story TOGETHER. One without the other wouldn’t feel right. Plus they’re both quite popular alongside Poppy (sorry Natty)
Natty's quest was SUPER boring. Felt like I was doing a side quest and not a story through out it
@@valentines7639 Natty wasn't good. I was more interested what Gerret was up to. We were meant to try his newest invention, and it didn't happen.
If he does get released his mind would be so fucked from the dementors that he'd be worse than when he went in.
@@sleepydog245 In essence, creating another Voldemort.
Do they not have a juvie in the wizarding world? I can't imaging teenage offenders being tried in the same way as adults.
As much as I disagree with Sebastian’s actions during his mission chain, I can’t turn him in when we know what places like Azkaban do to people like Sirius or even Anne from the game and Avada Kadavra pretty much guarantees that. Granted, we don’t know what he’ll do with this chance, but I do hope that he would be more open to listening and looking for alternatives if they continue the story with, hopefully, some DLC.
Then he should have thought about that before using it. Consequences and all that good stuff
Thanks for this comment, it sealed my choice.
@@Cibbic It's almost like he is a kid, and might not deserve a life sentence of being tortured in Azkaban by dementors. Should he be punished? Hell yeah. Is Azkaban the answer, I doubt it.
@@fugustogamer7512 doesn't matter what we think. That's how it works in that world . The sooner you use that spell , you know you're in deep trouble. Pretty sure they knew this before using that spell so take accountability and let's not use age as an excuse when clearly they knew what they were doing. He didn't even feel sorry when he killed the uncle. why should I feel sorry for him?
@@Cibbic I mean it does matter what we think, due to it being our choice in the game.
As for him not regretting it, you clearly ignored the parts where you speak him later in the undercroft where he expresses remorse, and regret. In the immediate aftermath he was clearly confused, full of adrenaline, and likely in shock. He is even so distraught about it, he is trying to convince himself he had to do it, which again if you speak to him just a little later after he thinks on his own, he regrets doing it.
"You're a true friend"
"Turns Sebastian in"
Telling you friend that what he did wrong is showing your a true friend. don't just go with everything he says is right it like the say the customers are always right which is false and stupid as a host of Applebee's. He killed his uncle out of hate, who says he won't kill again out of hate, when does the killing stop, He need to understand the consequences of his actions
Sebastian didn’t rat on me in the library so I didn’t rat on him. That’s the homie.
The one is about entering a forbidden section in the library the other about murdering his uncle who took care of him and his sister.
Totally the same…
@@Celisar1 It can’t be healthy to be this much of a stick in the mud and that a joke gets you so stiff.
Turning him in so he suffers in azkaban in just cruel, hes a kid with a good heart trying to do the right thing for his sister and his uncle was being a massive dick every step of the way, even attacking him and the player at the end, so it could even be argued seb using the killing curse was done in self defense. Besides if he didn't kill his uncle, solomon would've reported us to the headmaster and we would've very likely gotten expelled and dooming hogwarts and wizarding kind to the goblins so yeah. Not to mention kinda hypocritical to turn him in when we're murdering dark wizards/goblins left n right
Yea honeslty thought solomon was a big bitch he reminded me of those alchohalics who lost there job or something that take it out on other or family
Not only that but Azkaban is genuinely one of the worst prison systems I’ve seen.
People lose their minds after beings there for merely months. Doing that to a child is just fucked honestly.
@@areafurrynone1913 facts he also never snitched on you in the library that got my respect
He could have used
another spell on his uncle though…
yeah, im guessing we murder about 2% of all british wizards through the game - probably more (if about 20,000 wizards in uk)
I still hate that Solomon blamed me for what Sebastian did
The Sebastian storyline was good, but it had the potential to be great. It is clear the writers had a clear goal in mind with the story and didn't really consider the player's experience going through it. There are several points in the quest line that feels very contrived. Like how Uncle Solomon immediately shuts down any attempt of Sebastian's to cure his sister, instead of trying to get him to actually understand the situation. Or how Sebastian goes from friend to psycho and back again whenever the story needs him to be irrational.
There were several situations where I thought it would have been great to let the player character intervene or take initiative, but instead we're mostly a passive observer who's just along for the ride.
Wouldn't it be great if Sebastian actually hesitated at some points and you could influence him? Like, he's getting second thoughts about the whole thing because Ominis argued against meddling with dark magic, and you could maybe tempt him down the dark path, or you could encourage him to look for a different and better solution.
A branching quest line where one path has you driving a wedge between Sebastian and Ominis as you delve deeper into the mysteries of the dark arts, where a more reasonable Solomon tries to talk Sebastian of the ledge and you can kill him to stop his meddling or drive Sebastian to do it, and actually find a cure to Anne's curse by having Sebastian sacrificing Ominis.
Another path might let us discover a non-dark method of saving Anne, but at great personal sacrifice for Sebastian.
Something that actually gave the player some actual agency.
That's a really interesting idea! It's kind of parallel to the scriptorium part where you can choose to receive the cruciatus curse or cast it on Sebastian. It's like the theme of would you sacrifice yourself to keep your friends out of harm's way, or would you sacrifice your friends if it meant getting closer to your goals? Either way don't hurt our MVP Ominis though. He doesn't deserve it. xD
wasnt sudden solomon has gradually lost hope after searching to no avail is my understanding, doesnt seem too contrived or anything thats just solomons flaw as a human being. And its normal for people to be erratic like sebastien was. you have to consider all the emotions and shit he was dealing with, the panic and frustration can get to you at some points and then when youre out of it you realize that it was wrong.
the only parts i really feel like seemed contrived were near the end, i dont think sebastien really had any reason to kill his uncle, and he seemed way too cool with it afterwards. also him just immediately teaching you the spell afterwards was hilarious.
i 100 percent agree with everything you said in that second paragraph though us being able to manipulate the story and the characters emotions more would be amazing and really give this game an even darker vibe. i sort of hate how friendly and happy go lucky your character is throughout the game when thats not what im tryna be
Sebastians storyline really gives love triangle between the Mc, Ominis and Sebastian… I live for it
yeah, exactly what I was thinking!
I was thinking the same thing but I would choose ominis
glad im not the only one thinking this lmfao
huh?
I got a feeling Ominis likes Anne. Like the way he said Seb and her lost their parents and he almost lost Anne. I feel like they’d be really cute together. Especially since he is best friends with Sebastian
If you choose "everyone should know that curse" after got out of the tome, Sebatian will teach you Avada Kedavra.
I also just learned that even after you complete his questline, if u have chosen mot to learn any of the curses, he canstill teach them to u if u speak to him in the undercroft, provided you didnt send him to Azkaban.
@@anthonym840is there any way to learn if you did?
@@simpsons703 Sadly, no you can't if you send him to Azkaban
I turned him in and have no interest in learning that bitch move. Also makes everything too easy.
Hufflepuff here, I couldn't turn Sebastian in. Not only was he there for us but he never had any malicious intent, all he wanted to do was save his sister.
(Spoiler ahead)
Another reason is, if you play Hufflepuff the quest leading up to meeting Jackdaw in the forest is different depending on your house. The Hufflepuff quest sends you to Azkaban and you see first hand what happens when someone is wrongfully sent to that place, I couldn't let Sebastian turn into what I saw...
TBF he wouldn't be there wrongfully. lol
@@demoniclovings2623 True, he did use the killing curse, but I still couldn't hand him over to the dementors 😭😭
I wouldn’t say without any intend since he does encourage the mc to learn how to take away pain, but I do see where you are coming from.
@@ArikarinBluefire planning on doing 4 100% playthroughs of each house. 2 male characters for Gryffindor and Slytherin and 2 Female characters for Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff. I was going to do Ravenclaw after I finish my first playthrough as Griffindor, but I may actually do Hufflepuff instead. For some reason I thought Azkaban was a ps exclusive quest. Seeing that it is related to Jackdaw I now want Hufflepuff to be my next playthrough.
That look on his face when he dropped his wand is enough for me. He obviously feels bad enough for doing what he did but I'm honestly not there yet and am currently crushing on sebastian so I'm also a little biased In my opinion of him but it's not like he actually had malicious intent. I mean yes he obviously wanted to kill uncle right then and there but that look of regret on his face and how things are going to be from here from now on is going to be hard enough on him. He's just a kid. There has to be another option for him and seriously his uncle had to destroy the relic for controlling the infiri while we're surrounded by them? I know he's mad but that was just poor thinking...
“Annes withering away, inside and outside”
Anne: *casually beats him up with depulso and annihilates an entire army of inferi*
feel the same, I can't even cast that powerful incendio with all the potions and talent builds I had...it's not even a bombarda
This should have been the main story
I agree this was 20 times more interesting
You can always tell which decision is the 'wrong' one in the game because they give you a chance to change your mind lol.
But I really like the ending where you don't turn him in. It solidifies their friendship as a trio because you literally help your best friend cover up a murder. Might as well be a blood pact at that point.
I just wish you could still get those Ominis lines at the end if you stick by Sebastian-- or just more Ominis lines in general
Yes! Almost wanted to turn Sebastian in because that's the only way I'd get more Ominis content (hence how i ended up in this video). It's so sad that he gets gaslighted and cut off in favour of Sebastian :(
It wasn't murder though. it was self-defense.
not really a murder. yes he could have just beat his uncle wiht another spell but in the heat of hte moment he let his emotions get ht best of him. but in the end the uncle attacked 2 teenage boys whilst they were also getting attacked by inferi without even letting either one of them defend themselves or explain what was going on. it really was a case of self defense but the only bad part is sebastian used a curse where the intention is to murder. though he obviulsy regretted his decision immediatley afterwareds.
Not always. When Garreth asked me to steal the feather I originally said no but then he gave me a second chance and told me it was no big deal so j caved and said okay. Sharp had only one fwooper feather and he did notice it was gone and got kinda mad. I reloaded and Garreth respected my decision and sharp praised not getting coerced. I decided from then to stick with my gut one choices even if they ask me to confirm.
@@victoriaanne6332 I feel like saying no is the wrong decision though. sharp does get a little annoyed but if you take responsibility for it he respects you for it. Did you still get the honeydukes quest from Garreth after refusing to get the feather for him?
Turning Sebastian in is a VERY hypocritical thing to do since all the players that accepted learning the three curses have likely used it tons of times on enemy’s
Anyone else think the dark relic and/or Salazar Slytherin's spellbook maybe negatively influenced Sebastian's behaviour, similar to how one of the horcruxes affected Harry etc? Stoking his desperation to find a cure and his fear of losing Anne, along with his animosity with his uncle and his misplaced hatred of Goblins. Especially near the end, one minute he was hopeful our Ancient Magic could help Anne, then the next he's having a party with Inferi.
I definitely didn't turn him in. I really enjoyed Sebastian as a companion, despite some of his questionable behaviour. Besides, dude had it rough: orphaned young, lives with uncle who is an unsupportive and aggressive ahole, then his twin sister is cursed to live in pain and waste away in front of him. Rotting in Azkaban as Dementor chum wouldn't have changed what happened. He seemed genuinely remorseful and grateful we stood by him. Him and Ominis were the best. 💚🐍🩶
I thought it was possible but at the same time I think he'd do the same thing without the book. All the stuff he had to already do to get to the point where he has the book and was reading it was evil already.
It's not a horcrux do it shouldnt have that same ability. Only things with a 'soul' can do that. It's possible it could I guess but it's really unlikely it has a life of its own like the other things.
Sebastian would have pushed it until he landed in Azkaban even if he wasnt turned in he's a villain that's hard to see as evil but he doesn't care about his friends and his obsession with obtaining the power to be his sister at the cost of everything or everyone is psychotic. Even his family doesn't want him to keep searching for a cure but he will not stop even if really bad things happen.
@@user-un8jx8yo7z No. Hindsight came to him after killing his uncle, and he showed sincere consideration for his friends, and sincere desire to want to redeem himself for what he did.
I love how this game is so in depth and thorough like the books/movies that we're really having discussions on Sebastian's upbringing and failures.
Sebastian clearly regret what he's done, and he's not inherently evil. He doesn't deserve a lifetime with the dementors.
I feel bad, but i did turn him in. He kept pushing away his responsibility after killing the uncle after Anne destroyed the book. it was his fault, her fault, not Sebastians fault. It seemed like nothing would ever stop him. Even though i was playing slytherin, my gut was that he was going to keep hurting people, Anne, Ominis if we didnt turn him in. But I still regret it.
I did the same for the same reasons. He was still justifying his actions somehow so he didn't learn from his mistakes even after all that. I like Sebastian a hell of a lot but it had to be done...
I turned him in too
justifying his actions made me mad, he killed his uncle with a curse that is unlockable so he didn't have a chance of living, Anne didn't want any part of it, and omminis was right he takes things to far. I does hurt turning him in but its the right thing to do for you, him and everyone else in his life
@@mixs0269 Same bro
Snitches get stitches!!
@@ManDyterbrooo same. I stared at the screen hoping there was another way but I had to turn him in. When he hilled his uncle and Anne saw so she destroyed the journal he got mad at her saying "what have you done" even though literally seconds ago he just killed a family member. That's when I knew he's turned into a cold hearted person
Turning him in only really makes sense if you haven't learned the unforgivable curses.
true
Ominis really should be like: "Am i to turn you in as well, you hit Solomon with Crucio 7 times during that fight, honestly Sebastian did him a favour"
@@t8kabr8km85🤣😂 so true
I don’t spoiler alert:
San Bakar used it on Isadora he clearly knew the spell and he is a keeper. Knowing it isn’t wrong but Sebastian went a little too far even though his uncle started it.
@@ciaranbrk Well to be fair, the unforgivable curses were not made illegal until 1717... and San Bakar lived in the Tudor era.
…. Yet here i am a slytherin and i feel so conflicted. I’ve learned 0 curses. And i feel like I can’t turn him in still. Anne shouldn’t lose both of them.
Hands down the best storyline in the game
I don't see why anyone likes this questline. It's my least favorite of the 3.
I sincerely wish that they didn't cut the moral and relationship feature. Then our choice may have an impact, and we could have 'saved' Sebastion from going down this path. I love this quest, love the banter that Sebastian and Ominis have with each other when we are together. Wish more side quests are like this, with a little story behind, it's the only moment that makes the game actually feels like an RPG instead of a solving-puzzle adventure game with grinding activities. :(
no he's a good Slytherin I ain't turning him in plus he's kinda cute lol
Cringe! Get what you need and then turn on your friends. That's the based and smart way.
@@pha1337 unless they done something horrible to me I would never turn them in
@@angiecakes04 oh do i smell hufflepuff :D
@@TheZoltanLP no in my heart im a gryffindor and in game im ravenclaw XD
ominis be way cuter
I didn't turned him in, lol he's good lad but misguided
Even though Sebastian committed a pretty big crime, I couldn't bring myself to send him to Askaban. I'm not against him being punished for his actions, but Askaban is literally like hell on earth, littered with Dementors that suck out all your joy until there's nothing left. He's 15 for crying out loud. No 15 year old should have to go through that when there's still room to grow and change. If he were an adult it'd be a different story.
Plus his uncle was an ass who didn't even bother to try and see things from Sebastian's point of view. He had no sympathy for him and he gets none from me. Sure, he didn't deserve death. But I'm not sad about him not being around anymore
im here cuz i can't decide what to do
Sebastian taught me a lot of spells and all available Unforgivable curses. He didn't hesitate or gave assignments for me to learn stuff. He does not deserve to be turned in. His side quests and Poppy were the most interesting
As a Gryffindor I fully support Sebastian! He and Ominis are the best fellow guys in the entire story
Why I didn't turn him in is because
1. Sebastian is a cool dude
2. I would be a hypocrite to turn him in because I learned the dark arts from him.
3. As Anne mentioned, he's already suffering the consequences because he feels bad for killing his uncle.
I mean I turned him in even aftet learning 2 of the unforgivable curses but that was because I thought he was really spiraling out of control. At most I just use Imperio for crowd control.
Tough choice but I choose not to turn him in. If it was just prison, I would probably have done it. But giving him, or anyone else to dementors when there is a chance they might be redeemed or rehabilitated. NO. And I believe he really will try to make up for what he did, and he learned a hard but valuable lesson, sadly. No, I can't turn him in if I'm playing a character even remotely like me. I would only give up on a friend or family member if I thought they were a threat to others and would kill again.
Ask, yourself the question? What do you think happens in real prisons? Dementors are the good guys in real prison!
@@jermainejackson2870 Ok... Would I personally choose to go to Azkaban or a Muggle Prison. A real prison would be populated by humans who at most could torture my body and mind, but they couldn't take away my soul. Dementors cause you to relive your worst memories over and over without a second's reprieve. It has to be worse than anything any human can do to you because it would be unique to each person. Literally, a hell of your own making and you can never escape it, not for a moment, until you die (this reminds me of a few Twighlight Zone episodes... truly a great series) Hopefully, then you would finally be free. Buy, there is always the possibility of having your soul sucked out by a dementor. No afterlife ever, and worst, would you be aware of yourself inside the dementor because you wouldn't be dead, the soul is eternal? I'd take my chances in a Muggle Prison, Thank you very much.
@@jermainejackson2870 was about to ask him that too
I asked him to teach me the killing curse, then turned him in. Slytherin style, baby.
Same.
The curse is needed and useful, but he used it for a bad purpose.
Me and Sebastian got a descent body count can’t snitch on the gang.
That relic looks exactly like a Sith Holocron!
Anne seemed like she didn't even want to be saved
If you turn him in he stays in Azkaban forever his life will be over and Sebastian isn't evil enough to be tormented with dementors
i wish there was a romance option because my character and Sebastian would be amazing together
Literally 😂
thats me and ominous
I'm not turning my brother in christ in. Broski is the reason I learnt the unforgivable curses.
and yet even if you save him, the cutscene of the ending Ann appears but no Sebastian so WTF was she cured or is she just for the ceremony, really each story feels so rushed and incomplete specially the main story, the worst part you cant ride along and do world exploration with any of the friends to actually feel something at the end lol
That actually wasn't Anne Sallow that was a Slytherin that gave you the side quest to give her the treasure that the murpeople gave her.
really? she looks like Ann but i guess she maybe, still no Sebastian feels empty for those of us who liked him lol
The game feels really lonely after you beat the main quests and 3 relationship quest lines. I wish you could interact with more people, especially the students at hogwarts. Feels extra isolating when you’re surrounded by so many people but can’t even talk to them, let alone bring one of your best buds to explore with you
Snitches get stitches. Just sayin
I played Slytherin the first time and Sebastian was my ride or die. I loved his character. I could see his descent into darkness and was totally torn about practicing dark arts with him, but I still wanted to help him try to find a cure no matter the cost. He really had the best intentions and his uncle was just making everything worse, especially attacking him in the catacombs rather than trying to help him. It wasn't until Sebastian made the comment about the MC being ignorant about goblins that I got kind of fed up, but I still couldn't turn him in. I like getting to see more of Ominis in the other ending just because he's my favorite character, but I feel getting Sebastian expelled and most likely sent to Azkaban would just put him on the path to being another Victor Rookwood, not to mention the torture he would endure at only 15 years old. Yes, what he did to his uncle and the goblin under the Imperius curse was unforgivable and that darkness and willingness to take a life will always be there inside him, but at least being at school with the people who love him would be more constructive. He deserved to be punished, but I was also thinking about Anne and Ominis too. They would have no one if Sebastian was arrested. That decision impacts more than just him. The consequences will just have to be for Sebastian to live his life knowing what he did and that the two most important people in his life will never forgive him for it.
I truly love the concept of found family and dynamic between Anne/Seb/Ominis, and yes, if you turned Sebastian in, Ominis will get hurt A LOT too, I mean, Anne already accepted her fate in some way before the whole game started, now she lost her uncle and her beloved twin, Sebastian will rot in jail and Ominis? Hell, he will lost the most important 2 friends/family in his life...and he still got to deal with his shitty family, probably will pay some visits to Sebastian and look after Anne till her last days and watch her die...sometimes, those who are alive suffer the most (in my option ofc)
Ominis and Anne agreed that he should be punished for his actions so i went with it. No regrets. Sebastian is an awesome friend and i'm sure he understands.
@@ManDyter But you won't help him or save him from himself if you report him. Indeed, in this way you deny him any possibility of redemption.
If a friend of yours killed someone in front of you... You would keep his/her secret? Like, really imagine it
Imagine a similar situation, where your friend is obsessed with something and will literally do ANYTHING to get that. Would u keep the secret?
Honestly, although he is a kid I believe that's too much... Plus, if he did it once for pure obsession.... He'll do it again. Then, it is not about him, but the safety of others.
Even as a goodie two shoes (maybe especially because of that) I couldn't turn Sebastian in. Like our dude said it's not like this will be a reoccurring thing, it was a wound to his soul that tortures him towards redemption. If we threw him to the dementirs there would be NO chance that he'd improve (in fact it would likely make him a dark wizard if he ever got out).
i didn't want to snitch but killing your own family is an insane line to cross, especially when Seb repeatedly ignored Anne's wishes. what he said after killing his uncle -- that he "had no choice" -- was so deluded it scared me.
in real life, such violence would give me second thoughts. if Seb is willing to murder family and leave his sister without a caretaker, all in his obsessive chase for a "cure," he would absolutely kill me for standing in the way, too.
we saw what happened with Isidora. she needed to be put away, but was trusted to do the right thing by her closest friends and mentors. i wouldn't make the same mistake.
i chose to punish Sebastian, and i stand by it, even as a Slytherin. i've never used Aveda Kedavra on my own kin... and never would, unless i was going to be killed.
A year later but I finally found a reasonable comment. As much as I liked Sebastian during my playthrough I have to say that him knowing all of the unforgivables at the age of 15/16 is concerning..Why would someone want to learn these? He had always fancied the dark arts even without Anne was cursed. I have mixed feelings about him.. And when Ominis tells him that Anne burried his uncle alone he says 'I had to do it' and then seconds later after Ominis mentions that Anne is considering turning him in he is like 'turn me in?. Then he turns to the main character angry and anxious and says 'I never wanted to hurt my uncle- I-' which is obviously a way of self-defence trying to convince the MC that he regrets what he's done so we don't turn him in. It's as if he manipulates us again (let's not forget that he is adept at manipulating) into thinking that he has ackwnoledged what he's done. In reality he still thinks thats he is on the right.
I really thought I would turn him in. But then I thought about the scene my character saw in Azkaban (I'm Hufflepuff). And I realized that I didn't think he deserved such a fate. Prison is one thing, prison with dementors is inhumane. It's the first time I really understood why Dumbledore was so against the dementors being there in the main books.
I turned him over. Only a sith/darkwizard only deals in absolutes. I did what I must
The entire questline was the best part of the game for me. Only problems I have is the option on what to do with him, it's either one or the other and one of them is too much for a child. Then there's the fact that you can't get Ominus in the undercroft saying sweet things like, 'you've proven to be a true/friend' unless you send Sebastian to Azkaban. At the end of the day as a Hufflepuff I couldn't do it, out of loyalty, and for my slytherin I couldn't do that to my fellow housemate whom I learned the curses from because that would be extremely hypocritical. That's like saying I should turn myself in as well. Basically I personally think he's suffering enough, what with having killed a family member and having driven Anne away whom may never forgive him and has gone somewhere and not told him. For me, pretty much severing his relationship with his sister possibly forever is punishment enough
"I didn't mean to" - Sebastian
Later on, while teaching you the curse , "You have to mean it." - Sebastian
Which is it, Sebastian?
I learned it and turned him in, lol.
I came for Sebastian, but i stay for Ominis. To be honest i don't really care for Sebastian, i just want more Ominis' screen time
i like how Sabastian says "i didn't mean it" um don't you have to mean unforgivable curses
I found this quest really disapointing, really wish there was away to save anna
There should have been a morality system, where if we go dark and side with seba then we fail or turn Anne into a vegetable. Or if we go good and side with Ominis then we find the cure
It's interesting how turning Sebastian in sends him down an even darker path (Ominis mentions how Sebastian's hatred towards goblins and dark wizards only grew). Also Ominis and Anne are absolutely miserable losing him, understandably, and it's interesting to see here how they're quite unsure if they did the right thing. I had never seen this ending, as I always saved him despite for what he did. Really hope we get to see more of Seb and Omi later!
Ominis sounds absolutely devastated the entire time.
@@BigRiceEnergy Yeah of course he does with both endings. Quite a tragic situation for everyone involved.
Best storyline in the game. Shame that it's not a very high bar to pass. The writing in this game is... Unforgivable.
It's the worst, in my opinion.
@@silveraustinluna A surprizing view, but since all of them are terrible, it really doesn't matter, which one is the worst.
People seem to forget that part of the unforgivable curses are that you have to have the intent to do what the curse does. Otherwise, it doesn't work. Sebastian didn't want to just stop his uncle. He wanted to kill him. Then, after that happened, he doesn't really feel remorse for what he has done to his uncle, only how Ann is reacting to him.
I don't understand how people can like this crazy psycho. Calling him favourite character... i am so disappointed how he was portrayed in this game.
@@SnowDreamFlake
You don't like him, that's fair. No one's going to be liked by everyone. However, I don't know about everyone else, but for me I like him because I have a twin sister myself and Sebastien's questline made me ask myself how far I would go to help my sister were she sickly. I love it when a story does that.
@nikaz5 yes, he had the intention to kill his uncle. It was horrible, but he did it for the right reasons. And he may not have felt remorse in the moment, but you can tell that he was struggling with his decision. He lost himself, and once that finally settles in and he realizes what he’s done, he does feel remorse. He’s a very complex character, and this is a very complex situation, but even though I don’t agree with his decision, I can’t help but feel awful for him, my heart breaks for him because he deserved so much more
@@SnowDreamFlakeit’s a lot more complicated than you think. What he did was wrong and unforgivable, but nearly everyone would have done the same if it was to protect or cure a loved one. He’s not a psycho, he’s not a monster, he’s human. He’s so much more complex than “good” or “evil”. No one is simply good or evil, there is so much more depth to it than that, so many more layers to peel back. Sebastian is the prime example of a tragic character. He deserved so much better than what he got. He only ever had the best intentions for his sister at heart. I don’t think it’s fair to damn him for that
Seba only feels bad now because Anne hates him but I bet he would do it all again if it meant finding a cure
Honestly all these "he's a good lad" comments are a little unnerving. The Killing Curse isn't like a gun were you can accidentally kill someone you have to want to kill for the spell to even work. Him saying "I never wanted to hurt my uncle" is a lie. The whole time he just keeps saying he's doing this for her Anne when it was clear that he was doing it for himself. You see that at the point before Solomon comes in he's talking about using the Dark Magic from Anne's curse. I honestly wish that when he first found they relic you could team up with Ominis and take it from him then and there.
In the end I didn't turn him in because Azkaban isn't a placed I'd send my worst enemies. It wouldn't help and would have likely just driven him even more mad. I really wish Anne had a larger part in this story. Sebastian claims everything he's doing was for her but both he and Solomon took away all of her autonomy. They both pretended they knew what was best for her. Ominis was the only person that was taking Anne's thoughts and opinions into consideration.
IKR When Sebas said that he didnt mean it, casting the Killing Curse on someone means you really meant to kill the target.
@@rohanamor4323 exactly my thoughts
Agreed
malding over Harry Potter game OMEGALUL
More of an “omegalul” that you have nothing better to do than to go through comments looking to mock ppl. Pathetic really.
I wouldn’t turn him in because of him knowing the Curses, it’s what he did with them
He was willing to sacrifice a village to save his sister, who wouldn’t approve being saved this way
He would if given the chance kill Goblins indiscriminately because of his growing hate toward them
He killed his uncle in cold blood
In his current state of mind, if left free he would make more dark decisions that risk other lives
The fact is he is dangerous either way as much as we grown to care about him
Our character, if they learn the Curses would use them Dark Wizards and monsters that threaten Hogwarts in self defense in contrast
Not being able to romance sebastian is a let down ngl. I would make my witch as pretty as possible just to be his companion lol
You can't romance anyone in the first place and can't expect all games to have this feature.
@@Cibbic definitely not. But I still think it’s odd since they are teenagers and that’s an especially notable time teens start noticing others their age and form romantic relationships. But you’re right. Not every game will have that option. It just seems to be super common with open world RPGS that I found it strange they didn’t do that.
Was a hard choice, but I value loyalty, so I didn't turn him in, but if the STory continued and he did it again to an inocent person (civilian) then even loyalty can't justify his forgivenes...
I see, letting someone kill a family member unpunished is loyalty but 2 murders would be a bit too much….
This side quest is better than the main story imo
I wish there was more choices and consequences like this one.
i know he doesn’t snitch on you but the idea of sending him to Azkaban after being his best friend for a year is pretty funny too me
I am loyal to Sebastian💕
I love him ❤❤❤
I so wanna see Voldemort fight Madara Uchiha
I really hope for a DLC, where we can experience the Yule Ball and of course the Triwizard Tournament.
Yes 🙏
I accidentally said no to learning the killing curse AND accidentally turned him in now i cant get the spell
Sebastian is my Ride or die homie, He didn't turn me in in the restricted section, i didn't turn him in for murder.
5:03 what a liar. You're blind how can you say "saw"?
lot of people in the comments making excuses for Sebastian murdering his uncle. you shouldn't get to duck consequences because the person you murdered was a bit mean and you feel bad now.
Exactly. Today's society is so messed up.
A year later but I finally found a reasonable comment. As much as I liked Sebastian during my playthrough I have to say that him knowing all of the unforgivables at the age of 15/16 is concerning..Why would someone want to learn these? He had always fancied the dark arts even without Anne was cursed. I have mixed feelings about him.. And when Ominis tells him that Anne burried his uncle alone he says 'I had to do it' and then seconds later after Ominis mentions that Anne is considering turning him in he is like 'turn me in?. Then he turns to the main character angry and anxious and says 'I never wanted to hurt my uncle- I-' which is obviously a way of self-defence trying to convince the MC that he regrets what he's done so we don't turn him in. It's as if he manipulates us again (let's not forget that he is adept at manipulating) into thinking that he has ackwnoledged what he's done. In reality he still thinks thats he is on the right.
Couldn’t bring myself to throw a fellow Sebastian under the bus.
Whoever wants to turn Sebastian in, fair enough.
But don't tell me he deserves to be expelled just for one case of killing his uncle while your character learns unforgivable curses and uses them on every single enemie.
And no one seems to care 😆
Um. He deserves worse than expulsion for killing his uncle. And I personally didn’t learn the curses, so no hypocrisy there if I turn him in for the use of unforgivable curses. But I won’t because Azkaban is a horrible place, especially for a child and he’ll never redeem himself there. It’s literally torture there.
@@SusanaCanales1 his uncle was a dick. I didn’t care that he died
Sebastian despite trying to help his sister.. seems like a sociopath that can’t take accountability. I wonder how much of him healing his sister is more of an achievement for himself rather than having compassion for his sister.