Jim Cornette Reviews MJF & CM Punk's Promo Confrontation on AEW Dynamite

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  • Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
  • From Episode 409 of the Jim Cornette Experience
    Artwork by Travis Heckel!
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  • @gqn2
    @gqn2 2 года назад +914

    TNT literally gave CM Punk the full hour.
    They are certainly thrilled to have him on TV.

    • @imright6340
      @imright6340 2 года назад +45

      Take a peek at AEW youtube channel.. compared to the recent uploads the punk segments are topping millions of views. Yes others have it as well but I'm comparing the recent ones within 2 weeks.

    • @namelessfacelessyoutuber6017
      @namelessfacelessyoutuber6017 2 года назад +7

      Tony Khan books aew not tnt !

    • @namelessfacelessyoutuber6017
      @namelessfacelessyoutuber6017 2 года назад +2

      @@imright6340 It says that people aren't watching the show on tnt !

    • @blancosfamilyfarm1798
      @blancosfamilyfarm1798 2 года назад +7

      @@namelessfacelessyoutuber6017 but tnt has to allow what tony books be on there tv channel.. but I get what your sayen

    • @boydenhingston-muir3907
      @boydenhingston-muir3907 2 года назад +7

      @@blancosfamilyfarm1798 No they don’t. They don’t get to approve anything, AEW produces/provides the show and TNT airs it.

  • @NoctuaOlivae
    @NoctuaOlivae 2 года назад +1096

    We need a compilation of everytime Cornette has sung CM Punk's intro.

    • @scorptarget
      @scorptarget 2 года назад +14

      💯😂😂

    • @BrotherNero777
      @BrotherNero777 2 года назад +37

      Please no, it's already raining outside

    • @aarnethn
      @aarnethn 2 года назад +5

      @@BrotherNero777 same here🤣🤣🤣

    • @tmotivate
      @tmotivate 2 года назад +9

      I second this

    • @patricklee1371
      @patricklee1371 2 года назад +8

      Yes please. 😂

  • @exquisitelemonade3039
    @exquisitelemonade3039 2 года назад +498

    I thought the best part was about him picking Darby as the soul of aew and how THAT eats mjf up most. It validates that the heat between Max and Darby isn't over, its just resting.

    • @johnnysalery7383
      @johnnysalery7383 2 года назад +48

      Yeah, plus it really shows how much Punk admirers Darby. There's a reason why he was the first person he fought during his return to wrestling.

    • @exquisitelemonade3039
      @exquisitelemonade3039 2 года назад +57

      @@johnnysalery7383 I love how continuity is a thing respected in that company.

    • @madddoggnogood1491
      @madddoggnogood1491 2 года назад +6

      @@johnnysalery7383
      Exactly .
      I loved that. And its the truth
      Cornette always says Orange Cassidy os the mascot for AEW in a bad way
      Darby is the mascot in a good way.

    • @spiritplanes2453
      @spiritplanes2453 2 года назад +1

      @@exquisitelemonade3039 😂 but it’s not tho

    • @erickmack4131
      @erickmack4131 2 года назад +10

      Yeah it shows character flaws/ growth. mjfs character actually wants be the soul of Aew but he's not. Set up a face turn in future

  • @abrielrobertsson4160
    @abrielrobertsson4160 2 года назад +322

    That segment was old-school wrestling. I hadn't seen something like that in decades. I really didn't want it to end because it was so captivating and real. They're both excellent at promos and I think they should milk those abilities a bit more before they go full physicality mode.

  • @Shady00018
    @Shady00018 2 года назад +1009

    "THE GOOD SHIT IN AEW RIGHT NOW IS THE BEST SHIT IN YEARS"

    • @SunshineStateCoasters
      @SunshineStateCoasters 2 года назад +59

      Perfect analogy! The bad shit is bad and unbearable. And the good shit is what makes pro wrestling amazing!

    • @Tcrror
      @Tcrror 2 года назад +53

      @@SunshineStateCoasters I wouldn't say unbearable, but the "bad shit" doesn't happen very frequently.

    • @TheFailedmessiah
      @TheFailedmessiah 2 года назад +38

      @@Tcrror they’re weeding out the bad shit gradually

    • @kenrickeason
      @kenrickeason 2 года назад +28

      AEW is on 🔥!! They are taking advantage of WWE f___ ups.. A Smart Company is supposed to do that..

    • @kenrickeason
      @kenrickeason 2 года назад +21

      @@Tcrror More Good Shit will always outweigh the minimal bad shit.. It's like back in the day that The Greatest PPVs of WWF and WCW had a couple bad matches but it didn't kill the show cause it were other good to great matches on the card..

  • @transparent1054
    @transparent1054 2 года назад +159

    Two of the best promos since Austin & Rock. Brilliant talkers building heat meticulously. Love this; nothing short of magic!

    • @1027srich
      @1027srich 2 года назад +4

      💯

    • @1027srich
      @1027srich 2 года назад +4

      💯

    • @ps3Rambo21
      @ps3Rambo21 2 года назад +7

      you must have missed cena and rock and punk and hhh.

    • @gollumandeowyn
      @gollumandeowyn 2 года назад +6

      It was better than an Austin/Rock promo because they didn't ruin the realism with a stupid catch phrase.

    • @thejanglezclan
      @thejanglezclan 2 года назад +1

      Sure, if you like all the content coming from a company that you're marketing yourself as being nothing like.

  • @williamgregory1848
    @williamgregory1848 2 года назад +67

    This is what happen when promo's are not scripted to death. It sounds real, organic and it becomes legendary.

  • @stepkickking9868
    @stepkickking9868 2 года назад +126

    I like how week by week, Jim’s rendition of Cult Of Personality gets more and more developed.

    • @starshipfame1
      @starshipfame1 2 года назад +16

      Give him one more month and he will have a full meal with a drink on the side 😂😂😂

    • @mapsgoonthewall5396
      @mapsgoonthewall5396 2 года назад +2

      I've been noticing that as well lol

  • @JungleBunkRootsMusic2022
    @JungleBunkRootsMusic2022 2 года назад +105

    Punk: "The only way you get to be number one is if we wait around long enough for Tony to have a daughter that you marry". That was as much of a shot to HHH as it was to MJF. The stigma of being the bosses' son in law will always cast a LONG shadow over HHH's career.

    • @zlinedavid
      @zlinedavid 2 года назад +27

      I’d say it was more of a shot directed at Hunter than it was MJF.

    • @yoshikitakaya7871
      @yoshikitakaya7871 2 года назад +9

      That was all about HHH but pointed at MJF. HHH and Punk hate each other lol

    • @jamirimaj6880
      @jamirimaj6880 2 года назад +16

      Well they have three daughters already and we really don't hear scandals or rumors about their marriage so it all works out for HHH. Think about it, for all the hogging HHH did to advance himself, we have yet to hear from any of his relatives. Heck, we don't even have an idea how their daughters look like, and reportedly the eldest one is about to train to do pro wrestling. Bottomline is HHH put the hard work and some humility in it.

    • @zlinedavid
      @zlinedavid 2 года назад +1

      @@jamirimaj6880 Their oldest daughter is only 15. Not unheard of historically, but a little young to start overly intense training today.

    • @jerry85g7
      @jerry85g7 2 года назад +1

      HHH is the man

  • @SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist
    @SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist 2 года назад +39

    I think MJF and CM Punk could be one of the all time great feuds of all time if they keep having segments like this, this was the best pro wrestling segment of the year.

  • @johnxina1977
    @johnxina1977 2 года назад +139

    This what jim always says
    the experienced guys of AEW who know how to put on a cohesive product can do absolutely fantastic stuff. This brilliant promo is the prime example of that.

    • @FeelMyFerret
      @FeelMyFerret 2 года назад +6

      @BEEFCAKE 306 Same here. Thought it was a promo shot for the live action version of Team America. Cena being Kim Jong ill.
      Either way, I can't unsee that. 😬😒

    • @johnxina1977
      @johnxina1977 2 года назад +15

      @BEEFCAKE 306 cause i unfortunately lost all my social credits bro

    • @jvinson
      @jvinson 2 года назад +12

      @Ant Eastwood - So you can't see John Cena, but you can't unsee John Xina.

    • @FeelMyFerret
      @FeelMyFerret 2 года назад

      😂😂😂@@jvinson

    • @AxeDharme
      @AxeDharme 2 года назад +1

      @@FeelMyFerret so Kim John II?

  • @dudeman1642
    @dudeman1642 2 года назад +121

    Really was a fantastic promo, wrestling hasn’t had my eyes glued on the tv like that in quite some time.

  • @FatedStar61
    @FatedStar61 2 года назад +72

    This promo was better than any we have seen in years! It was amazing excellent work by both men, I was waiting for Jim to give his analysis of it.

    • @davyjones2032
      @davyjones2032 2 года назад +3

      It was great but Adam Page just cut an amazing promo like two weeks ago. Hell Punk cut another amazing one when he returned. MJF cut some great ones vs Darby and Brian Pillman Jr.

    • @crowns9966
      @crowns9966 2 года назад +4

      @@davyjones2032 True, Adam Page has been on a roll, his promo before Full Gear with Tony Schiavone I think it was, was pretty good then that promo against Bryan Danielson made him look even better

    • @FatedStar61
      @FatedStar61 2 года назад

      @@fluxx2384 I don’t think that was the challenging part the challenging part was getting through an unrehearsed and unscripted promo.
      Think about this if it was done during quarantine with no audience would it have been just as good?

  • @cjkemp1982
    @cjkemp1982 2 года назад +59

    They went damn near 20 mins and it didn’t get stale unlike if a 20 min promo on RAW would’ve been torture.

    • @oneofthepeople7293
      @oneofthepeople7293 2 года назад +3

      On Raw, I would be skipping the promos. They're mostly trash.

    • @oneofthepeople7293
      @oneofthepeople7293 2 года назад

      @@berko2076 ever been reported for spam?

    • @chriss790
      @chriss790 2 года назад

      Honestly thought it was a bit stale at times. MJF had to get the “I’ve got the microphone” line in to wake crowd up.
      Mind you a great promo anyway, better than anything on the show by miles

    • @bighand1530
      @bighand1530 2 года назад +1

      @@oneofthepeople7293 I also tend to skip the women’s matches with a few exceptions. It’s a joke and the so called women’s devision is really the four horsewomen show.

    • @AHMED-ly2ml
      @AHMED-ly2ml 2 года назад

      @@chriss790 you do realize he said "I've got the microphone" to make the crowd calm down and build heat for himself. You misinterpreted what he said.

  • @xsteveconwayx
    @xsteveconwayx 2 года назад +61

    MJF’s facial expressions are fucking magical. When he looks pissed, I 100% believe it. I’ve seen people get that angry before right before they explode and that’s exactly what MJF looked like after Punk called him Miz. I’m sure he’s working it, but he’s so convincing that it feels real.

    • @BlackViperGX
      @BlackViperGX 2 года назад +3

      Yeah, i think the worst example is Becky's "angry face" she looks like a child angry at momma because she didn't bought her cookies.

    • @surreydaprejident432
      @surreydaprejident432 2 года назад

      @@BlackViperGX that comment was almost as bad at your english

  • @lee9655
    @lee9655 2 года назад +106

    Cornette singing punks theme was hilarious, esp the chorus bit 😂

  • @agustin__
    @agustin__ 2 года назад +107

    I love that he has so much fun singing that song every time

  • @mattypaul87
    @mattypaul87 2 года назад +239

    I've watched the promo multiple times already and it doesn't get tiring. Just a brilliant back and forth between MJF and Punk. They both took great shots at the other and it really felt even.

    • @SecretGerms
      @SecretGerms 2 года назад

      get, not “getting”.

    • @george9822
      @george9822 2 года назад +7

      One of the greatest segments of all time in my opinion. Can’t say enough good about it.

    • @mattypaul87
      @mattypaul87 2 года назад +1

      @@SecretGerms Ah thanks for catching that!

    • @SecretGerms
      @SecretGerms 2 года назад +1

      @@mattypaul87 that’s why i exist. 😉

    • @mintberrycrunch2530
      @mintberrycrunch2530 2 года назад +3

      Promo got 9.5 out of 10. Only reason I took half a point off is that against Punk, it does feel like MJF is acting a bit.

  • @jthom0027
    @jthom0027 2 года назад +179

    I'm surprised Jim and Brian didn't bring up the line preceding the obituary line. Punk mocked the first reason why MJF had been in the news, that horrible musical number that he and Jericho had assaulted the world with. I loved the line "you wanna sing me a song right now Maxwell?". The beautiful, mocking, and condescending way that Punk said that line to MJF was perfect.

    • @romariogayle5878
      @romariogayle5878 2 года назад +33

      Actually it goes way deeper than that...... punk was referencing when MJF was a little kid and was ACTUALLY on the Rosie O'Donnell show singing his heart out. Look it up. The dude was like 9 at the time

    • @sty886
      @sty886 2 года назад +21

      @@romariogayle5878 hell its even deeper than that. You ever heard mjf sing thrift shop? Because there is a video of it, and its quite a sight

    • @romariogayle5878
      @romariogayle5878 2 года назад +13

      @@sty886 dude's playing 4D chess right now and it's beautiful to watch

    • @jimmydavis7587
      @jimmydavis7587 2 года назад +2

      That horrible musical number is one of the most entertaining and rewatched moments in my 20 years as a wrestling fan

    • @KarasuButler
      @KarasuButler 2 года назад +2

      @@jimmydavis7587 I enjoyed that musical number more than anything I've ever seen from Punk, lol. Still one of my favorite segments AEW has done.

  • @wallyrosario654
    @wallyrosario654 2 года назад +207

    Fantastic promo segment. One of the first times in a long time I’ve felt the magic of wrestling just hook me and catch my attention for 20 straight minutes of two guys just talking. Major props to both guys, absolutely amazing stuff and I can’t wait for the rest of their program together.

    • @sigmablock
      @sigmablock 2 года назад +5

      Thing is, it's just the appetizer, and not downplaying it, I'd say we are in store for more great segments between the two.

    • @crowns9966
      @crowns9966 2 года назад +6

      When they started talking I wanted them to go for at least 10 minutes, the fact that the segment doubled that time was even better, this and Danielson vs Hangman are my favourite feuds right now

    • @wallyrosario654
      @wallyrosario654 2 года назад +2

      @@sigmablock that’s what I think is the best part. This was their very first verbal interaction together. In my own personal dream scenario MJF and Punk have a blood and guts match months down the line where Punk needs to assemble a team that he can trust to take on the Pinnacle. That’s how personal and how great I think this feud can be where it deserves a stipulation like war games not including cardboard stages of course

    • @fenbops
      @fenbops 2 года назад +1

      @@crowns9966 I must admit I’m enjoying Bryan destroying the dork order, not sure that’s intended but that’s what I’m enjoying most of that feud 😂

    • @rollingthunder8223
      @rollingthunder8223 2 года назад

      Wwe could've done something like this with flair and becky

  • @verwesne8121
    @verwesne8121 2 года назад +367

    I wish nowadays wrestling as a whole could finally be again as exciting and good as this promo was! Since starpower is overall a bit different / less than in the prime days, the promos and stories got to deliver even more in order for the fans to care for the modern product!

    • @davyjones2032
      @davyjones2032 2 года назад +14

      I agree. I think a lot of that is the shift to people liking indy style so much they forget about promos and being a star. I think the in ring ability of wrestling today is better than the past even but the promo ability and being a wrestler is far worse. MJF (and Brit) are some of the handful of wrestlers who carry themselves as stars and coincidentally are very popular without having to have 5 star classics and flip all day.

    • @leerobbo92
      @leerobbo92 2 года назад +13

      Easy to forget, but it was the promos and stories that made the stars in the AA. Got to start somewhere.
      You don't get the Austin we know and love without that year-long feud with Bret. You don't get The Rock or Triple H looking like massive stars without their IC title feuds and the Nation/D-X. Sometimes guys can walk in as stars from the moment you give them a character (e.g. 'Taker, Hogan), but in the modern era that's just not gonna happen anymore.

    • @jedsteelwell2354
      @jedsteelwell2354 2 года назад +9

      Sadly promos and storylines are worse than they have ever been. I literally only know anything about today's shows from watching this channel.

    • @joeyriddle428
      @joeyriddle428 2 года назад +7

      @@jedsteelwell2354 good thing that is opinion a wrong one but an opinion only

    • @davyjones2032
      @davyjones2032 2 года назад +3

      @@leerobbo92 you're correct but smarks are to blame as well. They supported every indy guy who clearly just replaced promo work and ring psychology for flips. This is why we end up having to be happy when an actual wrasslin promo is great. The women talkers are great nowadays at least.

  • @NAustin518
    @NAustin518 2 года назад +105

    CM Punk had the three best segments in AEW history. He’s been there since August.
    MJF is your next AEW champion. Aside from Punk, nobody better on the mic in the business today.

    • @TheDebu666
      @TheDebu666 2 года назад +2

      Heyman?

    • @NAustin518
      @NAustin518 2 года назад +11

      Heyman is great but nothing he did topped this, the Eddie Kingston and his return segments.

    • @peterlee6374
      @peterlee6374 2 года назад +6

      @@NAustin518 nothing?? Not the shoot promo at one night stand??the shoot promo on vince before survivor series?

    • @NAustin518
      @NAustin518 2 года назад +8

      @@peterlee6374 ok, follow what I am saying, nothing Heyman, or anyone in wrestling, had better segments in wrestling since AEW came to be two years ago, than the three Punk segments I referenced.
      Some of these segments are all time great so needless to say they are light years better than anything recently done in pro wrestling.

    • @LifeAdmiral
      @LifeAdmiral 2 года назад +3

      @@NAustin518 Cena's 1-2-3 promo wasn't half bad (best WWE promo since AEW started), Hangman's promo about lying to himself after winning the belt was great, and I really enjoyed the Pinnacle/Inner Circle promo prior to Blood And Guts (summer starts early for you).
      But yeah, this is probably the best promo I've seen since I have gotten reinvested in wrestling (when AEW started) after a 15 year hiatus.

  • @ancientrune1674
    @ancientrune1674 2 года назад +16

    im surprised MJF didnt counter the second rate miz bit by calling it a compliment. he could have easily turned it around and told punk that wasnt a bad thing because unlike punk the miz was in the Main event of Wrestlemania

    • @martifrey3357
      @martifrey3357 Год назад

      Hell no, that would have burried them both since Miz > Punk > MJF, which means wwe >>>> aew.

  • @retepoteil
    @retepoteil 2 года назад +44

    I agree with Brian wrestling has to feel real and not insulting your intelligence. To me wrestling has to be controlled chaos

    • @patale1640
      @patale1640 2 года назад +3

      The easiest way to measure good wrestling ever since I was a kid watching in the 80s is does the content make you feel embarrassed watching it with non wrestling fans. The good stuff never makes you feel embarrassed.

  • @AshleySmith19912
    @AshleySmith19912 2 года назад +54

    Ever since he signed with AEW, I’ve been excitedly waiting for the moment where Punk and MJF cross paths and cut promos on each other. A lot of times, when you’re anticipating something like this, it often fails to live up to the hype, but this was actually better than I could’ve ever imagined. That’s how good CM Punk and MJF are, I hope this feud lasts for several months and MJF hands Punk his first loss, the heat would be absolutely nuclear

  • @SamsarasArt
    @SamsarasArt 2 года назад +87

    This is the best promo confrontation I've seen in a hell of a long time. Both punk and mjf had me hanging on every word.

    • @lee9655
      @lee9655 2 года назад +4

      The promo was almost as good as Austin and the Rock segment backstage before WM17.

  • @wilcee675
    @wilcee675 2 года назад +27

    Once Punk called MJF a “less famous Miz”, the promo battle was over. MJF was still talking, but it was like he got hit by “The Fist of The North Star”; he was already dead.

  • @seanchan4478
    @seanchan4478 2 года назад +183

    It took awhile for Jim to grow on me. once I gave him a chance, and realized he doesn't hate everything I like, I can see he has a mind for the business like nobody else. I may not always agree with him, but I can usually see where he's coming from

    • @scorptarget
      @scorptarget 2 года назад +5

      💯👏🏽

    • @troublenyc4092
      @troublenyc4092 2 года назад +28

      Cornette is an acquired taste…. But he is def one of the greatest wrestling minds ever, he and Heyman are two of the faces on my Mt Rushmore of managers/bookers.

    • @FirstLast-yh7gj
      @FirstLast-yh7gj 2 года назад +13

      Nice to see someone with a open mind and not instantly hate like the other drones on Twitter

    • @btmz1753
      @btmz1753 2 года назад +12

      Same here man I used to think he was so delusional but once you get passed the hate he has for guys like omega hes great

    • @moonsaves
      @moonsaves 2 года назад +12

      You can see that he's genuinely passionate about stuff and isn't hating for the sake of hating. He wants to enjoy things but with modern wrestling the planets needs to align for it to happen sometimes.

  • @travisprice1325
    @travisprice1325 2 года назад +60

    You can tell Jim absolutely loves Punk.
    That "Less Famous Miz" line 😘👌
    That whole promo has zero fat on it.

    • @JackgarPrime
      @JackgarPrime 2 года назад +3

      I imagine he dreams about what he could have done with current Punk as a booker back in the day.

    • @richardjfromthebay9156
      @richardjfromthebay9156 Год назад +1

      Of course he is. Hes been of fan of punks during his WWE days when he was in development

  • @Enforcedformula
    @Enforcedformula 2 года назад +17

    “The cult of meat with extra cheese” Jim Cornette 2021

  • @gammasmash1924
    @gammasmash1924 2 года назад +37

    I liked the promo. I like when they can manage to incorporate as much reality as possible into these storylines. I think a great example was how they promoted Cody vs Dustin at the first AEW ppv. Those promos felt real, and personal. I remember hoping at the time that this was where storytelling in wrestling was headed.

  • @superoctane
    @superoctane 2 года назад +21

    If AEW turns Cornette into a fan then you know! AEW is WHERE IT'S AT! I actually look forward to Dynamite like I used to look forward to RAW. It's been awhile.

  • @fordyford
    @fordyford 2 года назад +15

    This was a ripper promo. I like that cross reference, I like that they get personal. It makes it seem more natural and real for 2 blokes that want to fight each other. Very entertaining, AEW are killing it.

  • @toddrichardson8595
    @toddrichardson8595 2 года назад +7

    There was NO WAY Cornette wasn't going to eat this shit up! A MASTERPIECE!!

  • @164_hritikbanerjee8
    @164_hritikbanerjee8 2 года назад +20

    The best thing about this feud is that they are just getting started

    • @cbyod
      @cbyod 2 года назад +1

      Yeah he will soon have it ordered and eaten.😂 He must be on a diet.

    • @JackgarPrime
      @JackgarPrime 2 года назад

      I do hope this feud lasts a bit longer than the other ones Punk has had so far. I was hoping his program with Eddie Kingston would go on longer, although what we got out of it was gold.

  • @nikolasmelendez1202
    @nikolasmelendez1202 2 года назад +41

    Man being in the crowd for this this past Wednesday night as soon as the 20-22 minutes was over I looked over to all my friends and I said I cannot wait for JC and Brian to review this.
    This review was everything I wanted it to be Especially because of how good the segment was.

  • @Absinthexx7
    @Absinthexx7 6 месяцев назад +4

    its so crazy this is the same show we have on tv 2 years later

    • @4cuttime
      @4cuttime 6 месяцев назад +2

      Omg yes it is

  • @Monkey_D_Nate
    @Monkey_D_Nate 2 года назад +20

    Punk has had the 3 best segments of the year
    1. Punk/MJF promo
    2. Punk's debut
    3. Punk/Kingston promo
    Easily the best in the world right now

  • @chasincash8594
    @chasincash8594 2 года назад +24

    Waited for Jim’s thoughts on this promo

  • @TimCrocker94
    @TimCrocker94 2 года назад +17

    The cult of meat with eeeeextra cheese 🤣🤣😂🤣

    • @timwollen3236
      @timwollen3236 2 года назад +1

      Brian's laugh gets me everytime

  • @phoenixmodellingphotography
    @phoenixmodellingphotography 2 года назад +36

    If you didn't like this segment, you're simply not a pro wrestling fan at this point and merely trendhopping because hating on AEW is the edgyboi thing to do right now

    • @SoFlyBmOr3
      @SoFlyBmOr3 2 года назад +4

      I thought hating wwe was the trendy thing I missed when that changed 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @alonemax2912
      @alonemax2912 2 года назад +2

      @@SoFlyBmOr3, I've seen more accounts on Twitter strictly dedicated to hate AEW a lot more than WWE though.

    • @SoFlyBmOr3
      @SoFlyBmOr3 2 года назад +2

      @@alonemax2912 the opinion has really swung in the opposite direction because I remember before man wwe hate was the easiest way to get views and likes. But it blows my mind man that something like wrestling which is so small in the grand scheme of things could make people really go out of their way to piss on people's joy and something that makes them happy.

    • @androgynousmaggot9389
      @androgynousmaggot9389 2 года назад +2

      Those are sad people! On both sides! Just don't watch! Why would anyone like to see people fail and lose jobs, just for them to be able to say "I told you so"! I believe both companies can have their own audience! I don't like the current WWE, but could never wish for them to fail!

    • @SoFlyBmOr3
      @SoFlyBmOr3 2 года назад +1

      @@androgynousmaggot9389 I'm the same way on the opposite side I'm not a aew fan but it isn't that big in my life for me to go out of my way and crap on people for enjoying aew more power to them.

  • @azapro911
    @azapro911 2 года назад +13

    The one feud in modern wrestling you knew would be guaranteed magic.

  • @AntiHeroFett
    @AntiHeroFett 2 года назад +57

    As a fan of both promotions, starting with WWF back in the early 80's, it's gotten to the point where WWE is a chore to sit through. While in the beginning AEW was an interesting alternative for in ring action, in recent months the mix of the original roster, legends and WWE cast offs has found a nice balance and turned this into THE show of preference for me. The influx of quality talent such as Punk, Bryan, Black, Cole and even the repackaging of Miro compliments the solid workers that AEW already had to start with and makes the shows actually FUN to watch instead of a slog. Reigns and Heyman have been the only thing worth watching for months on WWE and that's starting to run it's course at this point. Punk vs. MJF on the stick was a joy to watch, popped me the whole segment and has me excited...meanwhile on WWE, oh hey the fake $100 million egg was stolen for a selfie, but it's back in Vinnie Mac's possession now so I can rest easy lol. Come on WWE get it together, how bout firing some of those writers and keeping your top talent instead and putting some faith in them like you did in the 90's. It's hard to imagine WWE ever being able to mount an Attitude era type comeback at this stage. WWE can't get out of their own way, and aside from the ratings numbers they cling to that don't matter to me as a fan who goes by the eyes and ears rating system, AEW has been eating their lunch for a while now.

    • @lighteningleke3228
      @lighteningleke3228 2 года назад +1

      Because of my O.C.D and the fact I have Savant syndrome, if i attempt to watch a wrestler who is on steroids/HGH or a wrestler that has awful Basic's I get locked on and end up have Fits.
      So with WWE pushing Roided up clown's such as Reigns, Orton, Brock, Cena, Charlotte Flair in terms of the women's division and countless other's over the last 18-20 year's, I have not watch anything from WWE since I found out the company had a wellness policy in 2003.
      Prior to find out about the companies wellness policy I never had problem's or issue's watching WWE, but when I found out about it the moment a wrestler on steroids was in the ring or a wrestler that was just crap with bad basic's I would get locked on and have sometime violent Fit's.
      Till AEW came along all I watched was NJPW, AJPW, NOAH, Stardom, TJPW, ROH, WXW and other European Based pro wrestling companies such as WCPW, Progress wrestling and ICW to name a couple in the UK and bits from the indies in the USA such as PWG, MLW and some PCW stuff as well.
      And yes in AEW there are a few things I just cannot watch again because of my O.C.D and the fact I have Savant syndrome, such as The Fat Dark Order guy in a gimp mask (The rest I have no issue watching as most of them can wrestle, if only a little), Dwarf Dong Sucker, Chucky Cheese and his pet Orange Juice (I can watch Wheeler Yuta, Trent and Kris Statlander), Abbadon, 'The Meth Addict' Joey "Jelly Belly" Nutela, and obviously Brian Cage who is the only person I react to in AEW because of steroids/HGH.
      Anyway I hope AEW just throw away these names I have listed above, but I would like to know how many actual Tag teams AEW has signed because if they have as many as I think they have then if it was me I would probably bring in a set of US or North American tag titles.
      Also if I was Tony Khan I would look into speaking with ROH and buying not only the tape Library but the actual company and all asset's and intellectual properties as well as buying the air time on Sinclair broadcasting as well.
      And I would hire guys like Silas Young, Dalton Castle, John Greshem and Other's to turn ROH into a development Territory even include guys like Matt and Mike Sydal, QT and Dustin.
      This way they have somewhere for new, young, green talent to go who are not ready to be on national TV the likes of Jade Cargill, Red Velvet, Dante and Darius Martin, Bear Country.
      But also rotating the Green Young Talent as well, and also making deals with the NWA, Impact, MLW and others so it allow's the young green talent to gain experience and reps.

  • @EzraDair
    @EzraDair 2 года назад +17

    I just love how every time Jim sings Brian hates the song and ends up laughing his ass off !

  • @lordsludge5678
    @lordsludge5678 2 года назад +14

    Aew is honestly in the right track, they just need to figure out the science behind the promos and matches and makes them pop and be honestly great, so far they have been doin well

  • @KC-vx5wo
    @KC-vx5wo 2 года назад +3

    The best part, aside from the promo itself of course, is that the announcers said absolutely nothing until it was over. Imagine Michael Cole screaming his head off after every line...OH MY!!!!!

    • @Speedyreedy1218
      @Speedyreedy1218 Год назад

      Just like JR and Lawler shutting up during HHH coming back following Armageddon 2000 when he interrupts SCSA's title match on Raw vs Kurt. He destroys him, stands over him, and debuts The Game theme song.

  • @xyseal7298
    @xyseal7298 2 года назад +40

    Amazing what MJF is capable of without being handcuffed to Jericho for over a year...

  • @Shel1221
    @Shel1221 2 года назад +19

    "Cult of meat with extra cheese"....😂😂. I popped out laughing too.

  • @Pewpewpew182
    @Pewpewpew182 2 года назад +38

    This was one of the best segments I have ever seen in all my years of being a wrestling fan.

    • @johngallagher72
      @johngallagher72 2 года назад +1

      U r right it was that good .. this will be generational

  • @Sony_Samsung
    @Sony_Samsung 2 года назад +8

    Commercial free 20 minutes promo thank you TNT ❤

  • @koberino4872
    @koberino4872 2 года назад +13

    Best MJF line was “if anyone needs to go to sleep it’s u punk” talking about the bags under his eyes lmao

  • @yxeaviationphotog
    @yxeaviationphotog 2 года назад +2

    The "less famous Miz" line was awesome! The crowd reaction said it all.

  • @mattwatson4017
    @mattwatson4017 Год назад +3

    Omg you just killed me with you're intro

  • @BDCdrummer
    @BDCdrummer 2 года назад +6

    A lot of people think the references to WWE shouldn’t have been, but I love the fact that they don’t ignore Punk’s history.

  • @XGLDF
    @XGLDF 2 года назад +17

    That settles it. I'm gonna mix the Cult of Personality track with Jim Cornette's vocals.
    EDIT: DONE and uploaded! (You can find it on my channel)

    • @sigmablock
      @sigmablock 2 года назад

      m8 make an updated version

  • @horgh_japan
    @horgh_japan 2 года назад +16

    Notice how Cornette still protects Vince, calling out the TV writers all the while overlooking that Vince has the last say on everything and, furthermore, is the one demanding that his performers read these awful scripted promos.

    • @davyjones2032
      @davyjones2032 2 года назад +5

      But he's actually worked with Vince and isn't just some fan online pre programmed to hate Vince or being dramatic about him "ruining wrestling." The writers have to take SOME blame because SD as a show is solid compared to Raw in pretty much every way.

    • @yoshikitakaya7871
      @yoshikitakaya7871 2 года назад +1

      No he dont protect vince lol he call like it is on everybody

    • @yoshikitakaya7871
      @yoshikitakaya7871 2 года назад

      @@davyjones2032 yea smackdown is better than raw fa sho. Raw is a chore to watch and smackdown is good, great sometimes

    • @horgh_japan
      @horgh_japan 2 года назад +2

      Again, we're talking about promo work here. The writers have little say on the in-ring product. Their job is to script promos and segments not plan out matches - that's the job of producers.
      Heyman and Reigns are standouts promo-wise but then again, that may just be Vince giving Heyman leeway. A rare thing in today's WWE. Few performers have been given this kind of freedom in the past decades.
      These people are hired by Vince and, as was stated by various sources, write what he wants them to write. It's been reported by former agents and WWE writers that Vince signs off on everything that goes on TV and is a notorious micromanager. We see and hear what Vince wants us to see and hear.
      This is in-line with the "work the house style" mentality that Vince has established over the years which replaced the old more unpredictable "work the style you learned when you first started" of the 80's.
      Vince likely wants stability and predictability. Which is fair. He knows what he likes and its his promotion and he has the last say on what content he'll produce, as he should. He'd rather avoid things like The Rock randomly announcing that he's calling CM Punk at the end of a show.
      But Cornette continues to tiptoe around this fact the way the tiptoes around Ric Flair's (and other friends of his') indiscretions.

    • @Raddon
      @Raddon 2 года назад +1

      He doesnt protect Vince, he protects his viewrship, most of his viewers are WWE fans so he tiptoes around anything WWE related. Thats why he doesnt usually do reviews on Raw and Smackdoiwn like he does on Dynamite.

  • @moopert86
    @moopert86 10 месяцев назад +3

    The cult of meat with extra cheese was truly a thing of legend.

  • @johnnysalery7383
    @johnnysalery7383 2 года назад +8

    This segment is a testament to what a Hardcore Veteran and New School Talent can do in the right scenario.
    MJF is the benchmark of what a Heel should be. Punk is an incredible Babyface, not just because he's over, but because he truly connects with each and every fan in the arena. It's like watching "The Rock vs. Stone Cold" in the modern era of wrestling. If other segments could be like this one, Lord knows how big AEW will progress in the future.

    • @KruelAidMan
      @KruelAidMan 2 года назад

      MJF is young but he's definitely a student of the game in the mold of an 80s performer.

  • @liamhemstock2286
    @liamhemstock2286 2 года назад +21

    Some people have gone “to many WWE references”. Now, some people take shots at WWE just because it will pop the fans but here it made sense to reference (not shoot on) WWE
    MJF was compared to The Miz when AEW fans first saw him
    “You might as well be preaching Hustle, Loyalty and Respect” was a great shot at Punk keeps this really interesting story that Punk has become John Cena
    MJF saying that Punk could never measure up Cena or Triple H is great because of the real life history between Punk and Triple H
    Punk taking that shot at Triple H and Stephane makes sense and is 100% because they did the same to him whilst Punk was gone
    They wouldn’t have made those references if Punk wasn’t with WWE before. This segment felt real, it felt exciting and because of the references they were making it felt unpredictable because they didn’t really hold anything back (apart from a Colt Cabana reference)
    EDIT: love that MJF is calling everyone second best. I was saying for god knows how long that MJF and Darby Allin would be a money feud and I was right because that match at Full Gear was the best match on the show, that feud was great and now MJF is feuding with Punk which is even more exciting. MJF bounced back from the All Out loss then Jericho did and he won the match although, it seems they are beginning to build Jericho vs Kingston for 2022 and if they have a card with MJF vs Punk, Jericho vs Kingston, Rosa vs Baker, Page vs Cole and maybe Allin vs Black that is again one of AEW’s strongest looking cards.

    • @noobieartist3801
      @noobieartist3801 2 года назад +2

      Where is daniel bryan bro

    • @liamhemstock2286
      @liamhemstock2286 2 года назад +2

      @@noobieartist3801 Maybe Sammy vs Danielson? It’s a major match for the TNT Championship and Bryan defending the title on TV and having top matches against the up and coming baby faces would be great, plus he can drop it to Jungle Boy and that would be a fantastic story

    • @kamfisher1714
      @kamfisher1714 2 года назад

      Too many references keep the excuses going

  • @chrisyancey89
    @chrisyancey89 2 года назад +16

    Punk comparing MJF to pre-Stephanie Triple H was an absolute dagger

    • @kamfisher1714
      @kamfisher1714 2 года назад

      Pre Stephanie triple h was World champion

    • @RataStuey
      @RataStuey 2 года назад

      So good

  • @collinsal1433
    @collinsal1433 2 года назад +4

    MJF in the Miz's coat is hilarious.

  • @thecoarsegrindpodcast1645
    @thecoarsegrindpodcast1645 2 года назад +14

    “It represents everything I want from wrestling in 2021.”
    FACTS. Full stop FACTS.

  • @autumnwind1216
    @autumnwind1216 2 года назад +4

    Honestly I loved when Punk finally spoke. That line was so condescending but brilliant, "I'm so disappointed in you."

  • @keithyw
    @keithyw 2 года назад +6

    Promos to me in wrestling are like those moments where you're about to see a fight in high school (or junior high) where people are just trash talking each other. the difference is that when you get people who really can trash talk in pro-wrestling it pretty much becomes an art form. and for my money's worth, these two are the best promo people in AEW right now.
    normally, i hate long winded talking segments but this was an exception. this is the one we've all been waiting for. i said the previous week, the biggest question was what would CM Punk say to MJF eventually? the next question is are they going to say more after this? I feel like they have to just because MJF doesn't wrestle much and this is his specialty while there's still more on Punk's plate for more rebuttals.
    i liked how in a way they used this promo to really put over certain people. Britt Baker and Darby Allin got put over big time, especially Britt Baker. CM Punk can't wrestle Britt so this is the next best thing in helping to improve her star power. Darby got his props by being called the soul of AEW, even though both men beat him. Heck, I would argue the Miz got over in this segment inadvertently because of the Miz chant that would later break out (and the fact that Punk did call MJF a less famous Miz which can be taken in two different ways at least). Even John Cena and HHH were given some props indirectly. the "You can't see me man" description made me laugh and it would be funny just for Punk to annoy Jim if it turns out he'd wrestle the Invisible Man.
    but what i liked was that they addressed a variety of things here such as touching on Punk's MMA situation, his own fears returning, his past rivalries and even the criticisms people have said about his limited time in AEW thus far. Everything so far with Punk has been a warm up leading to this point. This feels like his first real feud. The Kingston thing was good but still felt like a warm up but they can always revisit that later. This situation with MJF and Punk is the place where I think more people wished Punk probably had started but I like how things have led up to this point for both men.
    And the thing about this rivalry is that MJF incidentally is playing Punk's foil. He's basically a younger version of Punk while Punk is playing the wary veteran, meeting a perversion of himself if he could wrestle himself back in time. The whole "I'm disappointed line" is great because to me it's like an adult talking down to a youngster where in this case, the bad virtues of Punk have corrupted MJF into what we see.
    And even if Punk goes over in this feud, MJF will be elevated unlike that time he spent with Jericho. Punk allows MJF to get his words in and slander him. What they're saying isn't exactly childish gibberish of the lowest common denominator (maybe a few cuss words but I'll give them that because they weren't the emphasis). They touch on what exist and it's sore points that the audience can relate to in knowing Punk's past. This is going to be really a joy to watch unfold. Hopefully, it won't be Wardlow and Shawn Spears ambushing Punk out of nowhere.

  • @ADAMdinho1
    @ADAMdinho1 2 года назад +9

    The promo between Punk & MJF was great. Loved it. It is building the feud nicely. I loved what they said & how they said it. When AEW get it right they get it right. Their good stuff is the best in wrestling. 💯

  • @CzarBal
    @CzarBal 2 года назад +8

    I can truly say this was the most fun I've had watching pro wrestling in decades.

  • @kennyjones6369
    @kennyjones6369 2 года назад +8

    I couldn`t wait to hear Jim`s take on this, And I agree with Sigmablock we need a Omnibus of Jim`s cover of Cult of Personality. I can`t hear the song now without Jim yelling " LIKE MUSSOLINI" LMAO Thanks guys you make my week.

  • @richall9654
    @richall9654 2 года назад +1

    I forgot how funny Corny could be when he starts singing parodies. 😂

  • @carrigster
    @carrigster 2 года назад +4

    The reason I loved this so much is that both men sold what the other guy was saying. When Cena used to be in segments like this he would interact with the crowd in a goofy manner like "ooooh no did he really just say that" and you didn't believe that anything being said got under his or the other guys skin.
    With MJF and Punk this just felt raw and real. They didn't interrupt each other and let the other guy get his piece out which meant each barb landed properly. Sooooo good!!

  • @johngallagher72
    @johngallagher72 2 года назад +17

    Man ...hope they keep up this momentum said to my buddy six months ago before all the signings its not a bad show and we would prob go see it just for a night out excuse post covid. Now I think I'd actually be looking forward to content of the show. Especially if we get more NJPW and an undisputed era return.

  • @AGCcachanilla
    @AGCcachanilla 2 года назад +18

    IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS REVIEW ALL WEEK!! lmfao FINALLY CORNY!!! Ive watched that promo 4 times already

  • @empower5228
    @empower5228 2 года назад +2

    That part about Britt Baker and the part about Darby Allin were some awesome burns 🔥😎👌

  • @davidmurray6949
    @davidmurray6949 2 года назад +4

    Brian Last & that laugh makes everything 3x more funny 😆 😄 🤣 someone is going to loop Jim's version & play it on a Punk intro in about 2 days 🤷‍♂️

  • @michaelsuezo
    @michaelsuezo 2 года назад +1

    my wife was like "are they allowed to say that?" you just know how real they made it

  • @TheJulior1983
    @TheJulior1983 2 года назад +9

    Kingston, Danielson and Punk are doing cool shit consistently

  • @Logicjbr
    @Logicjbr 2 года назад +1

    Brian - as a wrestling fan since 85, i would love to debate you as to why young bucks/cassidy are classic wrestling too and why they are so over to people who like realism in their wrestling, like I do....

  • @rolltide_rhiannon
    @rolltide_rhiannon 2 года назад +6

    Brian's laugh is contagious! 😆😆😆

  • @teamtim87
    @teamtim87 2 года назад +1

    The "HAAAAW!" at the end of the intro murdered me.

  • @nickcervenka8756
    @nickcervenka8756 2 года назад +21

    Hearing Cornette sort of come around on AEW to me has legitimized it more than whomever Is in the company.

    • @staalhard666
      @staalhard666 2 года назад +5

      So you're judging a company on someone else's opinion? You're basically Vince McMahon's wet dream when it comes to the sheepish mainstream fan profile.

    • @scorptarget
      @scorptarget 2 года назад

      💯

    • @eastwaters4082
      @eastwaters4082 2 года назад +1

      Lol if you needed the approval of someone, you must not do much in your daily life.

    • @stephendwane8166
      @stephendwane8166 2 года назад +4

      He hasn’t come around on anything, Jim was always high on punk and mjf, Daniel Bryan etc … still hates most of the aew originals and with good reason 🤣🤣

    • @kingofbrawl3000
      @kingofbrawl3000 2 года назад

      Sounds like you don’t do much thinking of your own.

  • @cpwhite44
    @cpwhite44 2 года назад +4

    No question now that Punk holds the best two segments ever on AEW television. If they do this right, slowly and let this build this could be Austin/Rock all over again.

  • @TrueRomance1993
    @TrueRomance1993 2 года назад +4

    MJF and CM Punk are two of the few talents that make AEW watchable at all.

  • @redpandasworld
    @redpandasworld 2 года назад +3

    The thumbnail is the summary of this promo😂😂

  • @tempest0118
    @tempest0118 4 месяца назад +1

    So much has changed in such a limited amount of time for both shows and both these people.

  • @jupitermars7993
    @jupitermars7993 2 года назад +8

    Jim I'ma new follower, but that remix to CM Punk theme was hilarious I'd never heard it

  • @tomgilmartin7327
    @tomgilmartin7327 2 года назад +1

    Tony Khan came out after the show and said he wants to have the Wednesday before Thanksgiving show in Chicago every year

  • @adrianostafford8240
    @adrianostafford8240 2 года назад +2

    By far the best intro for Punk. Thank you Mr. CORNETTE

  • @ismithy147
    @ismithy147 2 года назад +20

    I find it ironic how the best moments in AEW involves WWE in one way or another

    • @JCA421
      @JCA421 2 года назад +10

      Don't you wish WWE'S best moments weren't in the past?

    • @indiesongwriter5474
      @indiesongwriter5474 2 года назад +2

      Punk worked there for a decade. It's part of his past. What, does he just ignore it?? It makes perfect sense for him and MJF to reference it

    • @michaelfitzgerald5207
      @michaelfitzgerald5207 2 года назад +1

      So....you'd rather pretend that Punk didn't have a past.....pretend that AEW is where his career began.....pretend that Punk didn't fight and for all intents and purposes fail in UFC....pretend that Punk didn't take 7 years off from wrestling, and why he left wrestling the first place...and you'd rather pretend that fans don't compare MJF to the Miz.... basically, you'd rather have meaningless fueds based on nothingness..... Basically you want WWE Raw. Did you listen to Jim's common sense reasoning in this clip as to why referencing the Punks past mattered, because it would've been foolish to ignore it and would be insulting the audiences intelligence. Do I guess, ya, you do want Raw......My bad for trying to explain it to you.

    • @saintK900
      @saintK900 2 года назад +1

      @@michaelfitzgerald5207 I think its not their fault. WWE has been brainwashing these people to believe that wrestling does not exist outside of WWE. So now they cannot help but jump around whenever WWE is mentioned. WWE fans are not fans anymore because they don't want WWE to do better. They are more like a Cult these days.

  • @yattace
    @yattace 2 года назад +1

    🤣🤣🤣🤣 the first 50 seconds were golden.!!!!

  • @GregS-1981
    @GregS-1981 2 года назад +11

    That was the best interaction between talents in AEW history. Hell its the best interaction between talents in Wrestling in at least 15-20 years. It was perfect. MJF is tge best in the business right now.

  • @LMLR187
    @LMLR187 2 года назад +2

    You know the nuance of how far they started to how close they ended is amazing. You don't think about it but it is nice psychology on how to build the tension and heat between them.

  • @harleyj.knight1130
    @harleyj.knight1130 2 года назад +2

    "And extra cheese!" 🤣🤣🤣

  • @michaels.8309
    @michaels.8309 2 года назад +28

    This is why AEW brought me back to pro wrestling, promos like this. I have yet to find someone that wasn't impressed with it. I was excited to see Jim's take on it - I don't always agree with him, but it's nice to see him coming around on some of what AEW has to offer. Probably will never love anything, but that's fine. AEW is like a buffet (a little of everything).

  • @EddieTheGentleman
    @EddieTheGentleman 2 года назад +2

    Less famous Miz was my favorite line😅😂🤣😭

  • @mckeallyons3657
    @mckeallyons3657 2 года назад +3

    I can’t get enough of Jim singing Punk’s theme song 😂

  • @zacharyjohnson955
    @zacharyjohnson955 2 года назад +1

    "The cult of meat with extra cheese" is all it took to get my upvote. Now I have to go find some paper towels to clean the snot and coffee off my monitor I sprayed laughing hysterically.

  • @openeyes3239
    @openeyes3239 2 года назад +7

    Im so glad AEW gives there wrestlers the freedom to say what they want. Only in AEW can you see a promo like that.

    • @openeyes3239
      @openeyes3239 2 года назад +2

      @Django Fett In wwe there talent can't even sneeze unless it's in there script.😅So Im sure they love the freedom they get now in AEW.

    • @crowns9966
      @crowns9966 2 года назад +1

      How are Hangman, MJF, Darby, Kingston, etc. former WWE stars??

    • @davyjones2032
      @davyjones2032 2 года назад

      @@openeyes3239 Punk had this same freedom in WWE. Adam Cole did as well Every wrestler isn't some MJF or Punk who can cut these type of promos. Overly scripting is bad sure but you don't have a company with 8+ hours of TV time a week and just let people wing it. Unless they are THIS level of great on the mic.

    • @bighand1530
      @bighand1530 2 года назад

      @@crowns9966 MJF use to be with WWE

    • @openeyes3239
      @openeyes3239 2 года назад

      @@davyjones2032 Dude no way they had any kind of freedom in wwe come on. They can't even say shit without getting fined. Plus since wwe is PG they have to say whatever crap the script says.

  • @blurplebear8573
    @blurplebear8573 2 года назад +2

    Ok, that song was hilarious. Well played.

  • @thatmexicanuzer
    @thatmexicanuzer 2 года назад +4

    Best "like Mussolini" bit so far XD

  • @shyamramraj4299
    @shyamramraj4299 2 года назад +2

    lol okay now the song by jim cornette cracked me up

  • @WorldsOkayestSorcerer
    @WorldsOkayestSorcerer 2 года назад +4

    This was a master class for every person in the back on how to talk. I hope they don’t screw it up.