Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 vs Canon 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Today we're comparing the Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 OS HSM lens and the Canon 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 STM lens! The kit lens has an awesome focal range, but is lacking in a lot of ways. Hopefully this video can help you decide if the 17-50 is a suitable upgrade for the Canon kit lens!
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For landscape the basic kit lens is perfectly fine. Because you’ll need to close your f stop. That’s why comparing the two in a landscape scenario is a bit pointless. The main difference comes when you compare them under low light. In low light scenario the 17-50 will provide double the light at the widest focal length and 4x times the light when zoomed at 50mm, leaving the basic kit lens in the dust.
Yep, in fact the "kit" lens with F3.5-5.6 and the "better kit lenses" with constant 2.8 are more or less uncomparable.
I was a long time EOS 400D user with a 18-55 non IS kit lens and later i didnt even had for years a regular focal length except a 50mm 1.4 prime, first on APS-C, later on full frame.
Since i got back to APS-C again (for affordable video/hybrid cameras, the EOS R7) i just looked for a good replacement/full frame comparable stuff.
The Canon EF-S 17-55 2.8 was pretty perfect on APS-C to replace a 24-105 lens on full frame with even the same bokeh/DOF.
With the change from FF to APS-C and F4 to 2.8 lenses (but SAME High ISO performance of the bodies!) i got even better low light performance than on full frame.
In fact with modern cameras and IBIS considered, there is not much way around a Canon 17-55 2.8 IS USM.... best stabilizer (and works with IBIS!!!!), best IQ out of all 17-50/17-55s. In fact the Canon version is nearly (or is...) "L-Lens" quality when it comes to optics with 2 or 3 apochromatic optics, but only "EF-S" build quality standards sadly.
Shh let people enjoy things mr know-it-all
I bought the Canon 77D with kit lens for $655 in total off of B&H and I love the camera but the aperture of the kit lens just makes it all feel not worth it. This lens is definitely something I have been looking at for quite some time and this really helped give me confidence about the motor noise and how it wont affect to much when shooting video. Thanks man!
You're very welcome, happy to help!
Just want to say thank you again, Josh. The camera I purchased was 80D, because I really liked your videos. The first lens I bought was Sigma 17-55, as you suggested it, and it got me into photography so much! Love it. And just today I received EF-S 55-250mm lens, as you suggested in one of the earlier videos, and I LOVE IT!
Best youtuber ever, can safely follow any advice here, and you will be as happy as I am :)
Thanks for vouching for me haha! Happy my recommendations have helped you enjoy photography as much as I do!
Just an FYI, the reason the pictures look so bad at 7:49 is because the images are cropped in like 1000%. Without cropping in, it's pretty hard to showcase any difference in a 1080p video 😅
big josh , taking the ease of not needing to switch att the time out of the picture.
how do you feel about this Sigma VS's the Canon 22 or 24 mm pancake lens ?
i have found both for around same price second hand . i travel a lot tho, and was leaning towards the Pancake , just for size portability . but you think i would be missing out on a much better lens with the Signma ??
thanks in advance
You are so fun to watch and I learn so much!
Happy to help :)
This video helped me out a lot! Thank you! I recently started with photography and looked for some kind of "cheap" all rounder.
Much love from Germany
Glad it was helpful, you're very welcome!
My wish that your videos never ends : ) so much love and support from pakistan...
This is the comparison im looking for
And my bro did it...
What can I say, I know what my subscribers want haha, hope it helped!
Love this review! You sold me on getting this lens as a step up as I get more in to videography and photography! Keep it up!
Hey thanks Chris, glad you got something out of it! It's definitely a really good value, and if you only want to carry 1 lens it's tough to beat at this price point!
Hey man, great video once again! I love how frequently you're posting! Keep it up!
Thanks! Will do!
Awesome review buddy. May I know which lens you used in this video for indoor shooting?
Sigma 30mm f/1.4 ART
Dude that’s so funny those three lenses are the same first three I shot on until I just got this! 😂
I have this lens. I really love it. Use an external microphone and you will never hear it. Or disable autofocus when you stay at the same distance.
I just bought the Canon 18-55mm very excited!
I'm excited for you too! Hope you make some awesome stuff with it!
I was actually looking for a comparison for this. Thanks!
Glad I could help, you're welcome!
All I can say, you're not a typical American photographer/citizen. Way way way smarter!
Excellent job and keep up with your wisdom and the sharp selection/life choices, and I've no doubt you'll be on top of the endeavor in no time.
I'll take it haha, thanks for the support!
How did you get the Sigma lens' auto focusing sound so quiet? Is it the audio setting within the camera or do you put the shotgun mic really far away from the lens?
This is the review i've been looking..thanks for the info..gonna get the Sigma lens soon..
Glad I could help, hope you make some awesome stuff with it!
Great review Josh! Keep it up.
Thanks a ton, will do!
This is old but many when they first got the Sigma 17-55 it had clicking sounds but just a few days later all gone.
Great video! Thank you
this video seriously helped me so much. thank you!!!
I'm so glad!
Wow !! I was literally looking for reviews on these lenses yesterday ..
I thought a lot of people might be haha. There aren't a ton of fast aperture zoom lenses that don't cost a fortune.
i', going to buy this sigma 17-50 f2.8 for my canon 80d and i'm still debating should i get a full frame camera i'm not going to be kicking out that kind of money
Thanks for sharing the video on the AF noise! Very helpful, might make me decide to get the Canon 17-55
Great review ! Complete information. Thanks man
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks Josh! This was super helpful!
Glad to hear it, my pleasure!
This is a great lens!
The Has quite a heft to it as you mentioned.
The kit lens is bare bones cheap.
F/2.8 is the biggest selling point to that lens.
With that said, I want to buy a kit lens too because I hate the weight on the Sigma..
Awesome review!
I barely noticed the sound of the lens refocusing. In any case, that's a lens I am definitely buying.
I think that apart from the kit lens, for filmmaking, this lens should be the first one to buy; great focal length and constant aperture for a terrific price point.
Oh yeah, if you're on a crop sensor this lens is a terrific value! It's pretty much the 24-70 for crop sensor cameras, it almost never came off my 80d!
@@JoshWiniarski Sigma 17-50 is discontinued I guess...what is best alternative
Very well explained. Already own sigma 17-50 n found it of much more use in making next to pro kind of images. Love the lens
Fantastic !!! The complete review I was looking for 🙌 thank you so much. See ya
Very good. Thanks.
Greetings from Portugal 🇵🇹
My pleasure!
I wanted to know how good the lens is I want to know if the pictures come out tack sharp cause my kit lens are nice but I wanted a better lens so please let me how good it is please
If budget is a concern I'd go for the 18-55 and add a prime like a 50 mm 1.8. You're going to enjoy those two a lot more than the differences between the 18-55 and the 17-50. That said, if you want an all-rounder the 17-50 sounds like a good deal. If you don't need stabilisation, you could look at used analog EOS lenses. They're amazing value and often excellent in optical quality. I have a 35-105 mm that's incredibly sharp and has quick autofocus.
I can identify with you! Thank you for share your experience! 👏🏽
I am wondering, how does Auto Focus speed in Sigma compares to Canon 50mm 1.8 or 24mm 2.8? Because I'm so annoyed of slow speed, and I need this f for low light.
I got the minolta a-mount version of this lens for $150 off ebay, still in the box (never opened). Pair it with my sony a6500 and the LA-EA5 adapter that just came out for native AF, and this thing rules. Super, super sharp at all focal ranges and fixed 2.8 aperture. My only problem was I had to upgrade my ND filters since I didn't have one big enough (77mm)
Hi, great vid. Wish u had shown the focusring travel. Does it have hard stops?
Focus travel is pretty short, it does have hard stops though!
Super helpful, thanks!
Hey this was a great, informative video! I was also wondering if the backpack that you have, can store a zhiyun crane 2 in the top storage?
Not having used that particular gimbal, my first thought would be no, but it might be possible if the gimbal breaks down a little. Sorry, probably not a super helpful answer haha
I am looking for a lens with reliable autofocus for my canon eos 70 D ,particularly after my experience with the Sigma 30mm f/1.4 Art DC HSM.
I had to return the lens because all the photos from my photoshoot were out of focus. The autofocus consistently locked onto the foreground, making the rest of the image blurry.
Love the review because it helps a lot. But it wouldn't be a bad thing too if you lessen the intro talk and get straight to the main points. Anyways thanks man :)
Thanks for the input, I'll keep that in mind for future videos!
Hi man
Sharpness wise, how does the Sigma 17-50 at 24mm compare to the 24mm pancake f/2.8 ?
Ooo I can actually answer this! I have both, just got the sigma. Sigma is sharp but 24mm pancake is a little sharper and contrasty. Would be great for travel cuz it's so tiny! Both great.
@@yellowberrypie Thank you for your answer, helps a lot !
Really Helpful💯
Glad to hear it!
This video was so helpfull, I bought one of this Sigma 17-50 for canon in last March but I still couldn't test it because my friend would bring for me in Brazil this lens from the USA and then you know COVID situation. But tell me about the part on the video during you were vlogging, the lens was with optical stabilization on? I notice shaking a lot. thx dude
It should have been on, but I suppose there is a slight chance it was not. Unfortunately there's no metadata or anything so I have no way of knowing for sure, sorry about that :/
Very very helpful video!!
Happy to hear it!
Would you recommend either of these lenses for a small backyard sunset wedding? Recently got hired by a coworker for his wedding next month. Looking at lens options! Appreciate the video!!
Awesome video super informative. Thank You !
My pleasure!
Hi. Is this an EF or an EF-S mount lens? Great review by the way. Thanks 😊
Both lenses are EF-S
Hi thanks for the video , I own Canon 80D and 24mm 2.8 , 50mm 1.8 stm lenses I want to buy sigma 17-50 or sigma 18-35 for general use overall I am wondering your opinion ?
This helped heaps. Going to buy the Sigma 17-50 for my Blackmagic pocket :)
Happy to hear it! Those Blackmagic pocket cameras are sweet!
@@JoshWiniarski Plus with the speedbooster adapter it brings the f stop from f/2.8 down to f/2 :)
Nice review !
I bought the 18-50mm and I see that it is too small for the t7i, which ring should I buy?
the 17-50 is the one you want. The T7i is a crop sensor camera and uses the EF and EF-S lineup of lenses. If you're ever unsure, just google something like "will the _ _ _ _ _ _ lens work with canon DSLR crop sensor" and you should be able to figure it out!
@@JoshWiniarski thanks man
Love you bro thanks for bringing out those important points, I just order Sigma lens. :)
So excited for you! Hope you make some awesome stuff with it!
Which one is better, canon 50 mm 1.8 or sigma 17 - 50 mm 2.8 in terms of image quality
Photo and image reviews in 1080p is like watching Blu Ray movies on a 1990 TV.
Thanks for your nice video.
Sigma 17-50 is in my shopping cart and can hit continue now.
Thanks for helping me to decide.
You're very welcome, hope you love the lens as much as I do!
Does the 17-50 work with the Canon R6?
great review
Glad you liked it!
I have a 24mm and a 50mm lens, i still need a kit lens so now im in doubt if the 17-50 would be a good option...
I want to buy this
It's a great lens to add to your kit!
Is this compatible with Canon 250D?
Yep, both lenses will work!
Can you recommend me good lens to replace kit lens in canon 250 d
My father bought me a 80d and i want a solid camera lens but i want to know how good this lens is i want something with great results and something that's tack sharp so help me out picking out a nice lens
I've seen a review of 80d + sigma 17-50mm the result is mind blowing.
@@yourfavoritepets6197 well thank you i really appreciate the information now i can ho and buy the camera lens i really needed
Thank you
Is this 17-50 good for shooting travelling videos 🙋
I'd say so! If you're looking for a single lens to shoot everything on a crop sensor camera this one is tough to beat!
Hey Josh thanks for sharing. I’m currently using canon 18-55mm kit lens but as you said aperture and sharpness meh 😒 Just have a quick question though, I’m lost between Tamrom 17-50mm f/2.8 XR Di II and This Sigma 17-50mm len you are talking about. Could you please give me heads up?
Cheers!
Unfortunately I've got nothing haha. I've used many Sigma lenses, owned 2 personally, and never touch a Tamron lens. Tamron could be slightly better or slightly worse. I've been extremely happy with every Sigma lens I've used so I haven't branched out. Honestly though, I'd imagine they're very similar. Wish I could be more helpful!
Josh Winiarski so Sigma is it 🙃 Thanks again 🙏
Is the 17-50mm good for astrophotography?
Thank you very much! The Sigma will replace my kit lense soon. :)
Exciting! Hope you love it as much as I do!
I own 2 of the sigma 17 to 50 for two bodys 90D i also own the sigma art 18 to 35 and tho its very sharp i still end up going back to the 17 to 50 because its a bit wider stable.. all sigma products are good for the price.. the 17 to 50 is sharper but soft on the edges..
I own 50mm 1.8 and 24mm 2.8 which one I prefer 17-50 or 18-35 ?
@@haceruyank7210 PRIMES ALWAYS LEAD
Not sure if you reply to comments but I was wondering what mic you used on the 80D. I don’t know if you still have it, you said in one of your videos that you wanted a new camera but I managed to find one for $400 and I think it will be great for my first DSLR even though it was made like 4 years ago. I’m not rich so I was planning on getting the Rode videomicro but I heard that it doesn’t do well on canon cameras. Do you know anything about that? Love the videos. Thanks!
This video was shot on a Canon 80D with a Rode Videomicro...so if this video had good enough quality for you than there ya go! If you weren't impressed with the audio look for something better! Hope this helps!
@@JoshWiniarski thanks so much! That helps a lot actually. Couldn’t find anyone else who had a 80D with this mic. I know canon DSLRs have bad preamps so I wanted to see how it sounded. You don’t happen to remember what audio settings you had it on do you? Thanks again!
Also do you have to get the “hiss” out in post? I heard that there is a hissing noise when using cameras with bad preamps. Or does yours not have that noise?
Thanks
Please get your hands on the sigma 18-35 f1.8 and do a review I beg of you
That lens is INSANE! I'd definitely like to make a video on it at some point!
Your positive review caused the price to go up, lol
$349 on Amazon and $449 on B&H
First of all: I would avoid the 3rd party lenses nowadays, especially the ones with stabilizer. The Canon 17-55 2.8 is already very affordable 2nd hand
I had also for long a similar setup:
18-55 kit lens (non IS!)
EF 50 1.4 USM
EF 75-300 IS USM
But i was super annoyed by the 75-300 (slow and problematic AF, very bad IQ, zoom creeping), the 50mm 1.4 i loved for nearly 10 years until it got replaced by a RF 50 1.8 (pretty huge difference in look and colors! RF is clinical/sharp, the 30 year old EF 1.4 somewhat classical and heavy CA/noticable less sharp etc)
I had for a while full frame too with the EOS RP (+RF 50 1.8, dream combo just 650g!) but as i got back to APS-C with the EOS R7 i just tried the EF-S 17-55 2.8, WOW! good stabilizer, its definately supported a bit with IBIS aswell despite being "adapted" (unlike canons official statement which is the reason many people refuse to buy the R7) and the image quality is superb. By watching some other comparisons with Sigma and Tamrons aswell the mighty 18-35 1.8 Sigma... it was clear, the Canon 17-55 is the best option.... in the middle ground of price and the best image quality out of all comparable zooms (except the Sigma 18-35 1.8 which is just "perfect" in IQ)
Especially the best stabilizer out of all 2.8 APS-C zooms was the reason to aim towards the Canon version and all its drawbacks (build quality, dust pump, zoom creeping, unpleasent sticky MF ring,...)
Hi Josh. Do you have an 80D review?
Simple fix use an off camera microphone then no issue
Hi, I need help. I just bought a 17-50 mm sigma lens for my Nikon 5300 but the autofocus is not detecting it and I don't know what to do. I already updated the camera's firmware to 1.03 and nothing.
First time that the camera gives me this problem because I have the 50 mm and the 70-300 and neither of them had given me this problem
And the truth is that it is very difficult for me to focus manually.
Thank you
thanks for the review! This was the kind of review i was looking for. Just bought the Sigma one to replace the canon kit lens and my 24mm pancake lens!
Glad it was helpful!
wow i have a 80d and i cant get thos shots
what lens did you use to film yourself in this video?
90% sure it was the Sigma 30mm f/1.4
Would you prefer this lens or the Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 which has no image stabilization? Thanks!
That's a tough call. It totally depends what you're shooting. If you're shooting video handheld with no form of stabilization, I think the 17-50 definitely makes sense. If you shoot video on a tripod, the f/1.8 aperture might be more valuable than the stabilization. Both have their pros and cons, it really just depends what you shoot!
@@JoshWiniarski Thanks!
I am from India and other youtubers told that it is a bit noisy but how much? But finely I heard the noise and yes it is noisy.🥰🥰🥰
i couldnt hear thee motor at all on high volume
Why don't you have many more subscribers ? I love your content honestly
Who knows, RUclips has a mind of it's own haha. I'm just happy to be making stuff and whatever happens happens!
@@JoshWiniarski I think I have watched every single one of your videos from 00:00 to end including this one, and how did you know I was in the market for the Sigma 17-50 ?
What about the Canon 17-55mm f2.8?
The Canon 17-55 f/2.8 is a great lens as well! At the time of making this video though, the Sigma seemed to produce almost identical results for a cheaper price. Doesn't mean it's better, it just seemed like a better value for me.
@@JoshWiniarski Gotcha! It’s selling for less as well.
@@RichieColemanSr And will be your worst choice if you ever upgrade to a mirrorless body with IBIS.
@@harrison00xXx I passed on the lens and purchased the R6 Mark II.
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Is back as Superman?
I still use my kit lenses haha but im copping sum new lenses soon definitely gonna need this sigma and the 50-100mm
Wireless mic for video?
I got the Tamron 17-70mm f/2.8. Its really old and a bit worse than your Sigma but I got it for only 90,-€ in perfect condition on ebay.
i have another question which one is better to have 50mm 1.8 or the 50mm 1.4 or do i buy the both of them or i only need one help me out cause they're cheap. my next door neighbor have a camera bag with 10 lens in it and he said he spend over 25,000 dollars and i was holding my head i think i only need 4 lens and call it a day. i can buy an expensive lens and don't know how to use it then i'm screwed and i don't waste money like that. here's what people are telling me they said i need a 24-70 f2.8 17-50 f2.8 and 50mm 1.8 and 18-35 f1.8 cause i already have a zoom lens. remember now my camera doesn't have video so i will get another camera that can shoot video and i will have lenses already.
so what you think about the sigma 18-250
Never used it. As a general rule though, the greater the zoom range of the lens, the lower the overall quality both in terms of sharpness, depth, and amount of light let in. If you're looking for 1 lens to do everything, it might be perfect for you, however I personally wouldn't use it since a fast aperture is something that's super important to me.
@@JoshWiniarski well give me a lens that you think i should buy
@@JoshWiniarski then what would be a great zoom lens to buy please tell me
Do u still recommand thiss.
Bucz its more than 7 to 8 yea old now..
Absolutely! Lenses age much less quicker than camera bodies, in fact almost all the best APS-C lenses are this old (Canon 17-55 came out in 2006, Sigma 18-35 1.8 came out in 2013, etc.)
I want tack sharp pictures so let me know how good this lens work
"Tack sharp" is a little bit relative. This isn't the sharpest lens ever made, but compared to entry-level lenses it's sharp. If you just want a sharp lens stick with prime lenses. If you want a sharp zoom lens though this is a good buy.
Buy the sigma Art 18-35 f1/8, that lens is razor edge sharp.
Hey I have a question, I already have 18-55mm kit lens, 55-250mm, and 50mm prime lens, I am looking for upgrading my gear. Shall I go for Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 or some wide angle lens like Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8. Please suggest me. I am basically interested in travel and nighttime photography. Great video btw.
It totally depends! The 17-50 is essentially just an upgraded kit lens (you probably won't even notice the difference in focal range). Do you feel like you want a wider focal range? For astro/nighttime photography, I really like the 17-50, but it's not quite as wide as something like a Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 which I primarily use for astro photos. I'd say the Tokina would give you more versatility (essentially 11mm to 250mm), but it just depends on how much you'd use it. When I'm hiking/backpacking I pretty much only bring the 17-50 because it's just such a good focal range for capturing people, places, objects, etc. and almost never feel like I need wider. This sort of turned into a long answer haha but the 17-50 is soooo much nicer than the kit lens I'd say it's a better investment unless you really wanna shoot wide a lot. Hope this helps!
Is this sigma good for astrophotography?
Wouldn't say it's as good as something like a Rokinon 14mm f/2.8, but I actually use it more now than my Rokinon when I'm backpacking or camping so I don't have to carry as many lenses since this one is MUCH more versatile. If you want something that isn't STRCITLY for astrophotography, this lens is awesome!
Can the sigma lens work on full frame canon cameras with the EF to RF lens adapter?
No, not very well.
hi bro can you show us how to do those video shots
Which shots exactly? Making a single video on achieving them would be difficult as sooooo much goes into making a shot. Lens, camera, camera settings, camera movement, framing, lighting color grading, framerate, etc. I've got tutorials on lighting, sound, camera settings, and lenses, but improving your footage is a lifelong process of learning more and more :)
@@JoshWiniarski the video shots from minutes 6:14 to 6:24 i have the same camera and i would like to make videos like that
very helpful! thanks, Josh :D
I have the 18-55 mm, and im starting to look for a replacement and i really love this sigma 17-50 (im a nikon user). I already own a 50 mm 1.8. If I buy this sigma, the next lens that would be amazing to have on the future (to complete like a trio of lenses) is a telephoto lens, the thing is that the 70-200 2.8 or f4 is like $1300 from tamron, and is way too much for me, which not-garbage-but-cheap telephoto lens would you recommend? Thanks!!
So admittedly, I don't know a ton about Nikon lenses, but I'd look for something with a reasonably fast aperture and image stabilization if possible. For Canon users, I always recommend the 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS because it's pretty sharp and the IS helps a lot if the sun starts setting or if it's a cloudy day and the subject isn't moving too much. With telephoto lenses you're typically going to need a faster shutterspeed since every little shake gets pronounced, so if you can find a cheaper lens with IS it's definitely worth considering. Hope this helps!
@@JoshWiniarski It helps a lot.Thank you man!
I just won an ebay auction for the Sigma 17-50mm for a little less than $200
Nice find!!
@@JoshWiniarski Had to snipe it in the last seconds but yes, it was a nice find indeed
Hey josh, I got a question. Hope you can answer it.
I have a canon APS-C SL2 with a 50mm and zoom lens. As its a crop sensor 50mm=80mm which is super tight. I want to get some wider shots with good bokah. so after watching your 24mm vs 40mm vs 50mm video I planned on getting 24mm=38mm on crop sensor as its wider.
Now after watching this video I feel like getting this lens as I will get all 24mm, 40mm and an actual 50mm on my crop sensor. Please let me know your thoughts by the way love your videos keep making content like this.