Referencing on other systems won’t EVER stop - What sound engineers NEED to know

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  • Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
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    Do you sometimes wish you could stop the need for referencing your mixes on other systems altogether?
    Maybe because whenever you listen to a mix in your car, or your ear buds, you dread the unpredictability of something having gone totally wrong?
    Well, rest assured, you’re not the only one.
    But if you think that finally getting your studio treated is going to allow you stop having to listen to your mix on other systems:
    Unfortunately I have to tell you - That’s not gonna happen.
    But what WILL happen is that referencing actually becomes a really fun and gratifying process.
    Let me explain what I mean in this video.
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Комментарии • 13

  • @boypiano1975
    @boypiano1975 6 месяцев назад

    Excellent!!

  • @kadiummusic
    @kadiummusic 7 месяцев назад +3

    The main reason that people get referencing wrong is that when they play it say in the car they're expecting it to sound comparable to the mix environment. But it won't. What you really should be doing is playing your reference music first, then play your mix and ask yourself "does it sound comparable to the reference(s)? If it does then that's great. If it doesn't fix the difference(s). 😎

    • @patrolduty8715
      @patrolduty8715 7 месяцев назад

      This. It is the only meaningful way to reference on other system.

  • @Cencolor
    @Cencolor 7 месяцев назад +2

    It’s like with tv/laptop/phone screens… there’s no way to make it look perfect everywhere, just good enough, if it looks good on Rec709.
    For sound there isn’t a standard for a framework of “display” or true reference. Only flat audio curve which is only half of the equation… been the location/room the other half

  • @nadler4
    @nadler4 5 месяцев назад

    Refrencing other songs is a much more important method to make sure your song works (if this song works in your car, reference to this song, not the car)

  • @stefannewels1823
    @stefannewels1823 7 месяцев назад

    List Up! Everybody 🔊🔊🕴🏼
    Discribing Audio/Sound alone is challenging sometimes..learned a lot from You
    Thx Man!

  • @elieserdejesus
    @elieserdejesus 7 месяцев назад

    thanks for this gold content 🙏

  • @IrenESorius
    @IrenESorius 7 месяцев назад +2

    Truth,, 👍‍‍👍‍‍

  • @roninthegoat2810
    @roninthegoat2810 7 месяцев назад +1

    But let’s say you got a non ideal room but do every mix in it, over time you should know what a mix needs to sound like in that room even if it doesn’t sound right in the room but so it sounds good in a car or Hi-Fi environment. I guess the treatment only lessens this learning curve.

    • @davidallanmusic
      @davidallanmusic 7 месяцев назад

      You can't adjust something like compression for example if you can't hear it in either your room or your car. There's an infinite amount of variables when mixing over multiple tracks, so just guessing and checking won't get you to a pro level mix.

    • @marcfrank7446
      @marcfrank7446 7 месяцев назад

      How much "not right" is right then?

    • @davidallanmusic
      @davidallanmusic 7 месяцев назад +1

      Well, I live in an apartment and took the room out of the equation by purchasing Audeze headphones last year. It was one of the best decisions I have ever made. I had been endlessly frustrated with my untreated room using Yamaha monitors along with Beyerdynamic DT990 headphones. With the Audeze headphones everything instantly improved. From sound selection, arrangement and to mixing / mastering. I have also been using much less layers in my arrangement and also a lot less processing on each track. One of the big improvements over my other gear is with being able to hear depth in the stereo field. So now I can hear if I'm bringing a track forward or backward in the stereo field just by adjusting compression and/or saturation. The downside of headphones though seems to be that it's difficult to set levels that pass the car or small speaker check. Which is what brings me to videos like this one. I'm still thinking I'd like to improve the acoustics of my room and upgrade my monitors so that I can set more accurate levels and rely less on the car test.@@chinmeysway

  • @whyyoumakethissohard
    @whyyoumakethissohard 7 месяцев назад

    Huh?