I Tried Mushrooms - Psychedelics and Schizophrenia
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- Опубликовано: 19 май 2024
- In this video, I share what my experience taking mushrooms was like. Spoiler: very not good.
There has been a recent renaissance of psychedelic science in the last decade or so, with hallucinatory drugs such as LSD or psilocybin being considered in the treatment of depression and post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD).
This increased consideration of psychedelics has also reignited interest in the similarities of drug-induced experiences with those experienced in psychiatric contexts such as in people with schizophrenia spectrum illnesses. The effects of hallucinogenic drugs resemble some of the core symptoms of schizophrenia.
Not enough is known yet though about whether hallucinogenic substances can be helpful in the treatment of schizophrenia spectrum illnesses or how.
Time Stamps:
00:00 - Introduction
01:05 - Drug induced psychosis vs. schizophrenia psychosis
02:32 - My experience with mushrooms
11:32 - A word of caution
12:16 - Therapeutic benefits
Videos mentioned:
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You guys are already blessed with the third eye. You don’t need psychedelics! ❤
Well I'm trying it out right now first put them in the lemon juice
mushrooms best is make tea out of it
also microdosing mushrooms creates new neurolinks which results heal brains
i want to make microdosing for my brother which is schizo
I actually prefer the medical treatment. The meds, but I still like to read about nature's ethenogens once in a while, and why they work. Its a second viewpoint. The drug wears off and sometimes you feel like the computer, your brain and nervous system has been rebooted. There could also be a shock effect like ECT.
@@wjbk8252shock effect? My girlfriend experienced a brain shock. Please tell me more.
Psilocybin mushrooms saved my life honestly. They helped me see the pure beauty in life, and made me realize how dumb it would be to take myself out.
I've been looking to try some recently, but I can't find anywhere to get them, anyone?
doc.jeanne is your guy. Got all kinds of psychedelics stuff. Guided me through my first ever experience
Is on Instgram?
Yesss
I just had my first experience with golden teachers, it was really great! I loved it.
Psychedelics such as psilocybin mushrooms, have demonstrated great potential in supporting individuals dealing with mental health challenges.
I know, right! It's mind-blowing how psychedelic trips can be so individual and unique, even when people take the same amount at the same time.
Surely dr.melvinshrooms is the perfect person for you
dr.melvinshrooms has pure psychedelic products-:
Can he be On instgram?
Yeah. He is dr.melvinshrooms
I have been depressed for a long time, but after taking shrooms few months ago, l feel much happier and highly motivated and my ADHD gone , lost a ton of anxiousness and had a few epiphanies about how I should live my life. I decided to buy an ounce for backup, but haven’t yet felt the need to take any more since then.
I have autism, I was diagnosed with it when I was 15. I tried shrooms and it made me function so much better.
Eek I’m autistic too and might wanna try mushrooms. How do I go about it?
Yeah doc.brenttt is your guide. Man is exceptional with anything psychedelics.
On instgrm??
Yes doc.Brenttt
I just tried MUSHROOMS for the first time. I felt as if i was in the center of the universe. I didn't go crazy after such an extreme experience. Totally got rid of depression, anxiety and illicit pill addiction.
Psychedelics should only be used with great care and respect, I would love to feel same man , how do you source em
dr.perryshroom is your guy. Got all kinds of psychedelics stuff. Guided me through my first ever experience
YES, dr.perryshroom. There's a lot of potential in psychedelics
Nature is magical and healing. what a beautiful experience 🍄
hm. Can dr.perryshroom dispatch to me in LA?
“The psychotic drowns in the same waters in which the mystic swims with delight.”
~ Joseph Campbell
My favorite quote, keeps me in faith that my condition isn't just meaningless suffering but it actually entails a lot of spiritual potential and if I'm gonna learn to handle it in a grounded balanced way, and so called "learn to swim", I could actually become more even-minded and spiritually aware person than ordinary "healthy" people. Some say, we're actually shamans whom our sick society fails to recognize, I kind of agree with that
The best way not to sink and drown but to float and swim is to default to a state of love or contentment when having those experiences, regardless if they are interpreted as psychotic or divine. View them as gifts from the universe, not as paranoid simulations. The mad person thinks the universe is out to get them, the mystic thinks the universe is working in their favor. Which way of thinking would you prefer?
funny you say that because most if not all mystics started by having severe mental disorders.
@@innerg_92 ...or so they thought....mental disorders or spiritual battles?
Bullshit quote
Trip killers are things like Xanax and antipsychotic meds. If you were to have popped a small dose of one of those during the peak of your bad trip, you would’ve come back down to reality. Also, a note to anyone wanting to try psychedelics: you can always take more and you can never take less. Always start slow.
@trippy_psyche1
They're on Instagram
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Benzos wont kill a trip. Just antipsychotics. Benzos will smooth out the bad trip, but ull still be tripping.
@@cook.b6285 I guess that’s fair lol
Will Lexapro kill a trip
The shaman is not merely a sick man, or a madman; he is a sick man who has healed himself.” ~ Terence McKenna
5gs silent darkness
@@bobbulgi880 ...several pre-rolls...
The brain is such a delicate mechanism, and so easily fooled. I recall stepping off of a 3-day Carnival cruise that had been a particularly bumpy ride. For almost a week thereafter, walking was a slight problem, because my brain kept wanting to "correct" for a tilting ship that simply wasn't there any more. How quickly we adapt; in some cases, TOO well!
I always have a similar experience when I spend a few days at the beach on vacation. Days after I can still feel the ocean's waves in my body when lying in bed.
Called sea legs .You established your sea legs at sea .When I was 17 left out of Johnson Pass in Florida working on a grouper boat 150 miles out for 2 weeks , upon return i literally had to hold a rail or a wall to walk for several hours .👍
@official michaelchase that's not legal
@@hinderminder5250 no shit
That’s called vertigo
As a neurotypical person, what your describing sounds familiar to what myself and many others experience on very high doses of psychedelics. I agree non the less that people with certain cognitive disorders, especially in regards to schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and borderline personality disorder should tread lightly when it comes to psychedelics. I have seen the most adverse reactions happen with those three. Stay safe y'all.
@@oscar_delicsonig8389 ah yes discreetly. As in post about it in the RUclips comment section under a fake account so you can scam people.
Why play russian roulette and risk ending up not right in the head? Why do people need to damage their bodies and minds for fun? Stay well away from ALL recreational drugs.
@@yayaceravieja1461 I don’t consider my use of psychedelics recreational. It started that’s at but after trying lsd my first time I realized psychedelics can be very healing tools.
How are you so sure you’re right in the head as it is?
@@yayaceravieja1461 you're right. I think it's because people want to adjust their neurotransmitters but there's safe ways to do that like exercise , love, good food, helping others. I guess drugs just seem like a short cut way to be happy but it's false and usually ends in misery. Helpfully people get out of it and decide to accept life as it is.
Reminds me of what Alan Watts said. "Once you get the message, hang up the phone." Psychedelics can be nice once, but it's definitely a rabbit hole you might not resurface from. Mental illness or no.
Stay safe! Nice video!
Allright! Be careful! 😉
I always listen to Alan Watts when I'm tripping
It's not always about the message, psychedelics can still be useful at various instances of one's life.
Psychedelics can be amazingly therapeutic and help one gain insight, but they can also just be a nice mental reset and vacation from the grind of daily life.
I get what Alan was saying though, constantly pursuing an endless quest for meaning through psychedelic experiences can wind up doing more harm than good.
No cap
Nah! I want them all of the time! 😍🍄
So glad you shared this. Psychedelics are contraindicated for individuals with a history of psychotic illness. Taking them with that history is playing with fire! They've been profoundly helpful to me but they are very powerful molecules that need to be treated with a great amount of caution, prior research to know how to use them and great care. All the Best :)
Exactly! I'm gonna stop taking them for a while because I get kind of addicted to them but I wrapped my boyfriends shrooms up and created this amazing story from them lol and I was on shrooms at the time. So much creativity comes from me was so excited to get his presents done and others presents.
can confirm, I had around 30 bad trips in a row, I'm fine tho it's just a panic attack
This helped me out immensely. Thank you so much. I’ve been looking for someone who has had this experience of paranoia and it’s comforting to know that I’m not alone.
I’m going to school for psychology and will be researching psychedelics, metaphysics, spirituality, mental illness, etc. for the rest of my life.
Ita always scary and way worse when you try to fight the "off" feeling the moment you accept the feeling it goes away just as fast.
Thats got to do with chandelier cells trying to inhibit the growing pyramidal cells. If she actually got psychosis from this that'd be different, and idk if she has medication complications, anti-psychotics alter normal brain physiology.
What helps me most of the time is to remember to stay with the breath and approach any negative sensations e.g. a feeling of fear with compassion and softness. Most of the times it makes me recognise the negative sensation is merely an emotion produced by my brain in order to make sense of the experience. This realisation usualy takes all the power away from the negative feelings. Just hang in there and let go. That being said: I do not have a disorder so I can't possibly know how this works for people who do.
@@casb2480 one thing that helped me panic attacks due to anxiety was control my breathing this breathing exercise called buteyko breathing honestly changed my life after it taught me most of us think when having a panic attack followed by hyperventilation we think we’re supposed to breathe more because the more oxygen the better but really more oxygen is what triggers the flight or flight response which adds stress making panic attack worse and constricts the blood vessels.so really you want to lower oxygen and raise co2 levels by breathing less
Example you want to always breathe through nose as lightly as possible inhale for about 4 or 5 sec then exhale also very lightly for 4 to 5 secs and keep doing it intil you feel your hungry for more air that’s a sign that your co2 levels are rising which help dialate the blood vessels and helps keeping your chest from getting that tight feeling
the lesson of mushrooms...but how do i apply it to life?
@@mimszanadunstedt441 Werd most medications don’t mix well with anything like this
Psilocybin, LSD, shrooms and ketamine are absolutely life changing substances that have so much potential to help people with mental health issues
You can't overdose on mushrooms alone . You can definitely eat the wrong mushroom and get poisoning from that, but no one has ever died from psilocybin OD
@@peterestrada8542How can I locate him? If he's on Insta?❤️
Yes he's dr.jeffshroom🥰
@@keratinhilltenneson5547DMT was the best trip I had though my first time was crazy but the second experience was amazing .
@@bizffatar5824This has got my interest, is the person reliable am eager to get some GT and does he ship??
I have the same diagnosis as you and I relate almost 100%
I took lsd when I was 19 and loved it. Since then I started taking lsd or mushrooms roughly twice a year. However, when I was 27 I was tripping and fell into the most horrific psychosis of my life. I tried to do psychodelics twice after that and both times I got psychotic. I haven't done any in two years and that's gonna be it for life I guess.
Hi, just wondering whether the experience when you were 27 was the first time you had psychosis. were you undiagnosed before that?
@@chichikov617 I would like to know too
😂 that sucks man I remember when I got really high for the first time off weed I was only 15 and it changed me for along time but now that I'm older I smoke weed and do shrooms all the time it's really helped my manic depression
@@chichikov617 I got my schizoaffective diagnosis when I was 24 or 23. I had a couple of psychotic episodes before the first drug induced psychosis.
similar story but with weed, I did loads of acid as a teenager then I smoked my first blunt at 19 and it sent me into a psychotic episode that lasted 14 months. Terrifying
I had a very similar experience to this with dmt. It was a very scary but honestly a worthwhile lesson. The lesson for me being to respect these substances, and to also be grateful for my sanity. Insanity is no cakewalk from my little glimpse into psychosis. Stay safe guys and know your dose :)
Thank you for sharing this. A few months ago I got too high on weed and went through feelings of psychosis. Scariest thing I've ever experienced. Like you, I lost touch with reality and began questioning if my life was real or not. I kept wondering if my current state of mind was how I always was and I was just waking up to realizing that I had a psychotic disorder. Truly terrifying. Afterward and now, it has given me a new understanding and empathy to those who suffer with psychotic disorders. I'm not sure if I will ever feel comfortable trying out harder psychedelics such as mushrooms or LSD because I never want to feel like that again. Thank you for all the work you do and your channel.
There's people that can relate to you. But it started after the hallucinogenics Smoking has never been the same or enjoyable since.
You got the fear. ....Quite normal for dope smokers. It can be Fairly easy to deal with if you already have some flying hours notched up on acid !!. I am happy to be a straight arrow for over 17 years now.
I've been there too mate, very similar experience on edible weed. And I too am concerned about possible consequences if I dabble again, even though I'd like to, and I believe it's just fear talking.
I asked myself what would happen when someone with schizophrenia/psychosis took psylocybin/acid or dmt and that was kind of what I anticipated. Thank you for trying it out and telling your story!
Thank you for the very real and unedited reporting of how this felt for you. Very appreciated.
Thank you so much for your very honest sharing of your your life. One thing I have noticed about the people with schizophrenia, that I have have known personally, is that they all had above average intelligence (by far). Your ability to share your life stories so well has taught me a lot. Also, your frank talk about psychosis and schizophrenia/ schizoaffective disorder and treatment makes all mental illness more matter-of-fact and, for lack of a better word, “normalizes” mental health just like any other diseases such as diabetes, cancer and everything else. And thank you especially for showing that it is possible to live a great life! May your life be very blessed.
Thank you so much for sharing your personal experiences about your personal, private medical journey. Its truly uplifting to see you rise above labels and be a great example and teacher.
Tell me exactly how she’s a “great teacher” she abused a psychedelic and had a bad series of trips. All totally avoidable if she had bothered to research it.
Thank you for sharing this. It's so valuable. It's common to hear the warnings that people with tendencies toward psychosis shouldn't do psychedelics, but there's very little published to actually back those warnings up. I'll confess that I thought it was probably just a myth based in people erring on the side of caution rather than a real concern. Hearing about your experience has convinced me it's a real concern and that will inform my caution going forward in the field.
Thank you for sharing your experiences with us all! I work in mental health but also enjoy learning about psychedelics and their relation to mental health. There is so much research coming out about depression/PTSD/etc and psychedelics, but the research specifically excludes people who live with disorders of psychosis.
I've been curious why those who live with difficult hallucinations/delusions on the regular may repeatedly take psychedelics/other substances despite it worsening their symptoms.
The way you explained it was super honest and straight forward though.
Sometimes, something is fun the first time.
So we keep seeking that same fun experience.
I've done the same, and I think most people have in some way.
Love your channel! I recommend it to friends and clients alike.
Thanks for all your important work.
Hey,
I'm not sure how much you've researched psilocybin mushrooms before you took them, but there are a few guidelines that are encouraged to steer you towards having the best possible experience.
Most of what you said like forgetting your name, forgetting who you are (ego death) and loosing touch with this reality are all things that are expected when taking higher doses of psilocybin mushrooms (usually greater than 1g, but it can vary from person to person)
Here are some basic guidelines:
1. Set.
Make sure you are in a good headspace before you trip. Taking psilocybin mushrooms when you're in a bad headspace can induce a bad trip. Whatever you are feeling is going to be exaggerated, so make sure you are as healthy and happy as you can be.
2. Setting:
Where you trip is also very important because of how different this reality can seem. When you forget your name, who you are and how to work a coffee machine, you're not gonna want to be somewhere you don't feel comfortable either. That is just going to make everything worse. Tripping somewhere where you feel safe and familiar with is recommended, especially for first time users and people taking higher doses.
3. Trip sitter:
A trip sitter is someone who already has experience with your psychedelic, will know how to react and what to expect if someone starts to have a bad trip. These are like your designated driver, they're going to make sure you get back from the trip safely.
However, not everyone will know someone like this. So, at the least, have someone that is sober that knows you are going to be tripping and can help you if anything goes wrong.
4. Intention:
Before your trip, think of why you want to take these mushrooms and write it down. Is there something you want to gain a new perspective on? Something you need help dealing with? A bad habit you want help getting rid of? Your intention is very important because this is what will guide your trip.
5. Just let go.
If you try to fight the experience, you're going to induce a bad trip. Letting go can be one of the hardest parts but it is essential to having a good trip.
There is a lot more about these mushrooms that I didn't explain here. I encourage you to do some research and give it a shot again if you feel up for it. These mushrooms have been used for centuries in many cultures around the world to help with many things. They hold a lot of power. Think of the mushrooms as a being, a teacher that will help you gain new perspectives on things. Search up dosing and figure out what kind of experience you want to have. Do you want a light dose that just slightly enhances things? Or do you want a heavy dose that will most likely change your whole perspective on life?
Another thing is make sure you have food and drink ready with you when you're tripping as well as a tidy and clean space because things can seem extra dirty when on mushrooms.
Oh yeah, and don't look in the mirror unless you are prepared to see someone or something else looking back at you.
Love the mirror!!
Hey I really appreciate this comment
I think we can all appreciate this comment. I am just starting my journey and this is the best advice I have heard. I had an awesome spiritual experience and have since started microdosing using the stamets stack. I am about a week into it but plan on taking another hero dose journey this evening. Thanks for the advice experienced psychonaut! positive vibes and energy to you! ✌🏼😎
She pulled an idiot move full stop. She took way, way too much.
@@benearhart1224 or not enough
Thanks for sharing your story, Lauren. Having experienced psychotic breaks, I get really nervous about the rise in popularity of microdosing and personally will be staying far far away. Appreciate your perspective. You look radiant, by the way!
I had a drug induced psychotic episode and I’m really concerned about people who microdose. I mean more power to people who want to trip every once in a while but I dont think microdosing is a good route.
What exactly does worry you about microdosing? I've done it regularly for years and would like to know more about where you ser the problems with this practise.
Ayelet Waldman
@@JenniieeFurrRobles Your comment shows you have no idea what you are talking about, microdosing doesn't cause hallucinations if its done correctly its more like prozac
we need more research!
I came to your channel because I watched a video on what dealing with schizophrenia is like and I identified with it, at least in a mild sense. Also, I've taken LSD hundreds of times when I was young. The experiences I had on LSD help me with my mental state. I learned to identify certain mental states and I've trained myself to realize that "This isn't real. Just let it go. Change your environment. Wait for it to pass. It will pass." To oversimplify.
I already knew that your fourth and fifth trips were going to be progressively worse, before you even got there because you had the memory of the third with no change to your approach. It's that downward spiral, picked up from before, and accelerated. One way I can describe hallucinogens is that they're an amplifier of your existing mental state. There are exceptions, but generally, I find this to be true.
Anxiety is a guarantee for a bad time on psychedelics. Once you establish that memory, it's hard to find the path of your second experience again, especially if you're experimenting without an experienced person around or some external stimuli to affect the anxiety of the previous experiences.
I can think of a couple people that I knew that should not have taken LSD, and in fact, had a bad time and never tried it again. It might have been different for them if they were with someone with experience that they deeply trusted, but I can't really say for sure.
I believe that hallucinogens could be a powerful tool for healing and self-understanding but I can't say that I know how for any given person. These are powerful mind altering drugs that could be dangerous for anyone with anxiety, paranoia or any other issues. Maybe if there were professionals, with strong experience with psychology and psychedelics.
I don't think I would take it today. I know my state of mind. Probably one day, but only when I'm secure in knowing which direction I'll be taking because, like you say, negative effects of a bad experience can stick around for an undetermined amount of time. Or, if there was a pro that had a way to encourage a positive path.
I'm actually a proponent of these drugs. I think they have great potential and good experiences are amazing. But they're not to be taken lightly.
Micheal Pollan's book, "How to Change Your Mind," is an interesting read on the subject.
Thanks for this insight.
Thank you for posting an honest review. They are definitely not the fix all for everything. I sincerely wish you all the best on your mental health journey.
Having schizophrenia does not mean you need to lose control. When I have audible hallucinations it manifests as music...coming out of fans, that move air, any fan, all fans. But it isn't out of my control, I can change the music to what I want to hear, like a radio station or mp4 player. You can have control of what you hear. Do not let the most powerful tool you have make your life harder. Your mind is all powerful. What you think, even in the back of your mind, is what will manifest for you. Very powerful. Thoughts are everything. Beliefs come from thoughts. Think well my friend.
i get this as well, whispers in the fan as well. ive grown used to it, im not having a audible hallucination, im tuning in to the ethosphere of what we are, and the countless waves of quantum consciosness that is all around us. time is irrelevant. it can all be recalled.some are just more sensitive than others
something about what you said soothed me to the core!! you should become a teacher or write a book.
Do you have any physical pain in the eyes or brain? How is your life memory
Many years ago I did psychedelics. In much the same way as you've described - I kept trying. It was never 'fun' - always stressful. I had some symptoms I would call psychotic - unable to sleep. Paranoia. Thinking others could hear my thoughts, some auditory hallucinations - all these AFTER the psychedelic had worn off. I even saw a huge spider in my peripheral vision that vanished into a shadow when I looked for it. My internal noise level was nearly paralyzing for several months. I took all this as a failure on my part - because I knew so many people who claimed to have fun or gain spiritual insights. These things can be tremendously harmful to some people. It's not an exaggeration to say it took me years to repair some of the internal damage - and I really didn't do them many more times than you did. I can also see the possibility for great benefit - but the application has to be all about time, place, and person.
All of the same things happen to me from being a alcoholic I wake up in the middle of the night when I can sleep and I see giant tarantulas crawling on the wall it's wild
@@riley739wait really? How’s that alcohol related ? I’ve had similar and I’m always stressed for sleep so I’m on small dose of anti anxiety medication.
How did you fix it ?
@@Elfyjaliterally at night ask God for Holy Spirit and right frame of mind
@@Thedevilisaliar23 I remember back when I was a Christian, I tried to pray away a heroin addiction. It didn't work at all. Years later, I got on Suboxone and I was able to taper down my dosage and get clean. 14 years later, I'm still clean. 11 years later, I'm still an atheist. I became one 3 years into sobriety after realizing my beliefs did not comport with reality and were self contradictory. Not logical, or true.
I'm much happier and my quality of life and self worth are greatly increased. No longer paranoid about what happens after death, or some hell I might be destined for.
I went through all of the "salvation" things, believed with all my heart, prayed constantly, read my Bible, had true faith. In the end, I realized that's not what helped anything in my life. It was all me.
Thank you, Laura for sharing your experience. I think its important for people to realize that if they choose to use mushrooms to help dealing with their mental health issues, it is not without significant risk. And I think you communicated that very well. I will look out for your other videos!
I admire your bravery taking shrooms while having schizophrenia, but to me that would be terrifying, like trying to put out a fire with gasoline lol. Glad you got your memories and self back!!
Psilocybin containing mushrooms save my life. The drastically reduced my benzodiazepine withdrawal allowing me to quite illicit pill addiction after three years of heavy daily use before it would had became medically dangerous to quit
Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it’s just so hard to source here
The Trips I've been having have really helped me a lot,I finally feel in control of my emotions and my future and things that used to be mundane to me now seem incredible and full of nuance on top of that I'm way less driven by my ego and I have alot more empathy as well
@@Barbara-jx4ru I've been having constant, unbearable anxiety because of university. dr.sporess is a life saver.
He’s on Insta
I am feeling the same way too. I put too much on my plate and it definitely affects my stress and anxiety levels. I am also glad to be a part of this community.
Oh my gosh I’m so sorry you went through that!!! Psychedelics are absolutely contraindicated for those with mental illness. This is so great though that you made this video. ❤❤
Hi Loren :D
Thank you so much for sharing your story, my native kind held great respect to sharing stories.
To all our great ancestors it could save your life. Infact it was so important that their stories were put as to surpass the test of time. Cave walls, Pyramids, internet.
You are changing ppls lives, thanks.
I did a psychology class when I was in college and my teacher said that people with psychotic disorders if they take hallucinogens it could "wake up" their psychosis. He said he has a patient who did lsd and didnt know he had a psychotic disorder and he never really recovered from it. That always stuck with me. So I was surprised when you said that you did shrooms.
That happened to my brother.
I Know mushrooms and I know acid, but it's been years so I'm sorta scared to try it again and I'm really a much inhibited person now then I ever used to be. with a strong trip I could see the VERY REALl risk out weighing the benefit. I believe I I will do it, but a very small amount then inventory.. I just know there's medicine here.
@@jeffersonfishel5758 Are you suffered from sczophernia?
Absolutely not! Anyone with mentall illness to do any recreational drugs. An L for you
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i did 7 grams of mushrooms and completely thought i fried my brain. i will never forget that trip. i was so scared and it made me think i had put myself in a psychosis and i was gonna be in the hospital. i’m thanking god i did this at home because if i wasn’t i would have probably ended my life. the thoughts wouldn’t stop, a million thoughts at once. i had memories of my life if i could remember it but in the moment i didn’t think i was anybody. i didn’t know the meaning of anything. all i could see was my life coming to an end, thought i was going to be admitted and never get my life back again. one thing i learned is once you start getting afraid it won’t stop your trip is ruined and you cannot come back from it. as soon as the anxiety sets in just know that you’re about to have a bad trip no matter how many times i tried to calm myself down i couldn’t. there was about 2 times during the trip my friend i was on the phone with made me laugh but as soon as she stopped talking to me i remembered about the anxiety and it just completely came back. the hours during this trip felt like an eternity i was just closing my eyes waiting for it to go away. i felt so out of touch with reality , my face felt as it was melting as i was crying i felt as a cartoon character. all i could ask myself is why did i do this to myself. i felt like such a failure to myself and my family i was asking myself why did i think this was the answer to my problems. i kept thinking everybody in my life was worried about me and that i would be nothing in life. i kept seeing myself as a little girl wondering why i would give a little girl a drug. i couldn’t stop sweating i had to get completely naked because literally nothing felt right. i was listening to the song loose by daniel caesar before the bad trip started and i remember the part where it said “you coward” and later on during the bad trip i kept hearing that in my head. i felt wind on my face even tho i have no ac or no window open. i used to think mushrooms were the most beautiful thing but i have completely scared myself in a way i have never seen. if i ever do try again i will never take as much as i did. i usually take 3 grams and it’s never enough. as i was coming down my trip i was sitting there wondering if i was stuck. i took the shrooms at 8pm and was still stuck until 1am just in disbelief staring at the wall. i don’t want my trip to scare people into not trying it but please be aware of the outcomes and please take the right dosage. it is the most terrifying thing ever if you mess up in anyway. till this day i still get flashbacks and see the hallucinations of faces i used to see. my room doesn’t even feel right anymore because i remember what it was like on that trip in there. i have not touched shrooms since or had the desire but it just amazes me how delicate the mind can be.
This perfectly describes my last trip
I think you had an ego death. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Yea this is exactly these experiences...I never experience entities or out of body experience but what you said is exactly what it is. You think your going crazy and you began to get paranoid that you messed up your life becuase of the way thoughts are being processed. You also have this feeling of insane paranoia with any sound or movement. But I would say when you take a high dose of shrooms understand what you doing. You literally going to put you mind through hell to experience what you need to experience. It's the feeling that you have when you coming down from the high is what your looking for. Just understand that whatever you feeling even if it's horrible it will end so try to coast through the bad waves.understand that you've done it before and you'll be fine. Accept that you need whatever the shrooms are putting you through....that bad trips are always the best because they are confronting thing that need to be confronted
Holy fuck ill never try that shit
I had a hellish experience on 7 grams also, but 2-3 hours in I was fortunate enough to have had one humorous thought. I don't exactly remember what or why but it boosted me up just enough to feel like I had a chance. I was no longer drowning in it but... vigorously treading water in a storm, doing my very best to dance my way through the chaos. After 8 hours or so I was never so grateful to simply be eating a sandwich, feeling somewhat sane.
I had PTSD symptoms for a few months but it's well in the past at this point. I had a couple 2-3.5g trips shortly after that and they were a mess... I was not ready to go back there. You don't just go through something like that and come back hoping it'll be different. The only way it's going to be different is if you have really processed and healed your feelings about it, and are coming back fresh in some way. That's why I knew exactly where this story was going after the 3rd trip. She didn't change in any way between trips 3 and 4, or 4 and 5, except that she had much more reason to be scared of what might happen... so that's what she got. This is what happens when we have a lack of education and guidance due to criminalization.
I think there needs to be more emphasis on gradual introduction. You have your whole life to explore, if you want. Like, start with microdosing, then mini/threshold dosing, working up 0.1g at a time even. You'll have more than enough to integrate into your life just taking the same low dose even.
Much appreciated video; it reminds me of my one, awful, use of mushrooms.
(For condescending “you did it wrong” types: Obviously my age, intentions, setting, etc were wrong; and I don’t dispute its important benefits for many other people.)
I unreflectively took them one time in 9th grade to “fit in”. I was a deeply insecure teen. It was an absolutely ruthless waking nightmare at the same time that no one around me was aware of my situation. I remember not comprehending what “Name: “ meant at the top of my spanish test. I don’t remember much else thank god but I was off the scale anxious and cognitively incapacitated and it didn’t ever totally go away. Decades of subsequent medications, therapy, exercise, diet, meditation, and everything else, didn’t help at all.
So thanks for sharing your cautionary tale. Some of us fated with atypical brains have been, can be, and will be severely misled by the buzz around psychedelics and the most dogmatic apologists.
Thank you for sharing this with us Lauren! I don't want to discredit your experience in any way, and you have explained how it came to be.
I have listened to several scientific podcasts (Interviews with scientists who are studying the usage of magic psycoactive mushrooms). My understanding is that they should be used in a therapeutic environment, in the presence of a therapist. Often they were used only once. I guess haveing specifically for this purpose grown mushrooms could also make a difference.
I highly recommend the YT podcast of Dr. Andrew Huberman who is a professor of neurobiology at Stanford. In his recent episode he interviews Dr. Karl Deisseroth who is a clinical psychiatrist and scientist. Past 1h 40 mins he explains his take on mushrooms and why they could work on depression and psd (not schizophrenia). Just for anyone who is interested.
My 30 year old daughter who is schizoaffective tried mushrooms when she was 17 and it woke up the sleeping dog of schizophrenia and sent her down the rat hole of mental illness where she has suffered for over a decade. The years of her 20s were completely lost to it and she is still in a mental healthcare facility hoping to soon get in a group home. What her life would have been had she never got into drugs as a teen we'll never know.
So sorry to hear that.
I'm so very sorry
First of all I'm sorry to read your, respectively your daughter's story. I'm 25, lost my "youth" to depression and isolating eating disorders, that's why I relate in this regard.
All I want to tell you; don't have too much regret about the "what if". Life is a summary of the choices we make and the cards we are dealt. It is what it is. I hope you are still able to have some joyful moments together (even if rare/short) and that she has somehow found a way to work with what she got.
Regards from Austria
My heart goes out to you and your daughter. 🙏❤❤
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You have such a beautiful way of expressing yourself and describing your experiences. It is great that you experienced one wonderful trip, but it is a shame that the others were so disturbing. A bad trip is terrible because there's no exit, you just have to endure its wrath. Six hours feels like an eternity. As you mentioned, micro-dosing "might" be worth trying. The high is so faint that there's very little chance of a bad trip, but since you've experienced a good trip before you will still get a "playful tickle" to remind you of the wonderous spirit that is quietly speaking to your soul.
DMT is another psychedelic, with the unique trait of only lasting 10-20 minutes. (I shouldn't mention it, because all the literature I've read about psychedelics warns against those with Schizophrenia using them. As you're discovered.) But, DMT is very interesting from an academic perspective if you care to read about it. It's similar to mushrooms & LSD, but the effects are even more spiritual feeling and are almost instantaneous. There's no wondering when it will begin. It hits your brain like a bug hitting the windshield!
Personally, if I had Schizophrenia, I would try meditation. With much practice, I believe you can reach similar mental states. Being self-induced I believe the effects would be even more rewarding because you've made the journey without taking shortcuts.
During an unusually stressful time in my life, I discovered places in my mind where I was able to manipulate visual images within my mind. It was similar to watching the images in clouds floating overhead, but I was able to direct the shapes & colors and they would morph into the next form. Sometimes I was even able to reverse the flow and make the dog turn back into the cow. It wasn't easy, but I realized that being the creator anything was possible with enough concentration. Those stressful days are behind me and I have since lost those abilities, but I know they will return if I need them again. I know very little about Schizophrenia, but perhaps the challenges it imposes could help fuel whatever mental quests you might hope to pursue. Our minds are vast.
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And this is why "set and setting" is so incredibly important. Sorry for your bad trips, and thanks for sharing.
The therapuetic dose is waaaay smaller than one you took to have a trip. I had a similar experience to yours and had my psychosis triggered after a dose of 2-3grams whereas when I've microdosed .5grams or less I had improvement in mood and awareness. Trip level doses are dangerous for us.
Yeah dosage can be key. I’ve had the best experience on 1 or 2 grams of mushrooms. The time I did 3.5+ grams scarred me. I’ll never take them again.
Awww man come on, we all wanted to hear about a "bad" mushroom trip and not a bad psychosis mind. Imagine thinking it was the mushrooms 🤣
I take .5 tops, lemon tek for max potency and less duration. That said, ironically enough, the time I did 2 tabs of acid I had the best trip of my life, but the time I had the worst one I took only half a tab. It also depends highly on set and setting. And understanding your emotions.
Not necessarily true, most research on psilocybin involves full doses not micro doses. And most of the clinical improvements are happening at full doses, there is very slim research into micro dosing yet sadly. So most of the experimental research on treating depression, anxiety, and ptsd usually come in at a couple of grams of mushrooms. The same is true of mdma for PTSD. Usually they’re giving subjects about 100mg or one “point”
Hence the term microdose
My high dose mushroom trip had a group of people talk to me as if they were in the room. They replied to my thoughts and actions in complete sentences throughout. I was very mentally sober but physically disabled. It was amazing and they gave me advice and even made things appear that I needed to see.
..... Now I know why it is called life changing stuff
Now you also understand how the Japanese anime Akira was born. ;)
Jesus was my big life changer
Sound like a Crystal meth trip to me
There was a time when I forgot who I was on high dose of mushrooms, at the time there was no me, there was nothing, I didn’t feel scared or anything really, but all things I knew about “Preston’s life” just disintegrated, I came back eventually with this feeling that I had just merged with the divine. I can’t describe what I saw because it wasn’t I, I don’t know how to describe this. But I never thought this was an experience similar to what people with schizophrenia experience. For me it was enlightening and terrifying at the same time. Enlightening because it was so ineffable and I brought back good memories that have helped me make positive improvements in my life. Terrifying because I can’t describe accurately what it was like and edit me questioning reality and of that was real was that death was it a glimpse into what happens to our soul/consciousness when our bodies die?
I relate to your experiences so much.
I've been down this road. I had psychosis from doing mushrooms many years ago.
And yet, I will probably do psychedelics again. The journey of self-integration is very important to me and I'm willing to take certain risks for this greater good.
How long does the psychosis last
You got caught in a thought loop! Great video
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What I learned from shrooms is this:
I cannot li to myself
Beautifully said!
Same
Did wonders for my mental health on small daily levels.
@@the1DasKrahen yeah
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Why would you lie to yourself ?
What I learned is that we do so much for so little in return
Thank you for sharing your experiences and knowledge, I feel less alone knowing there are people like me in this place.
This is valuable because it sounds like, currently, conditions such as schizophrenia are screened out of many (if not all) studies on the therapeutic use of psychedelics. To have someone with this type of condition volunteer to take them, could lead to insight. Still, without knowing the precise dose, strain, current mindset, the last time you ate, etc., it's hard to draw conclusions as to the degree to which your difficult experiences were the result of pre-existing conditions or one of the many variables that affect psychedelic experiences in general. In any case, thank you for sharing your experience!
It was amplifying your fear to lose your mind. You need to have a more clear intention when working with such medicines so the experience is easier to deal with much love and thank you for this video
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Thank you for sharing your experience. I think shrooms are fantastic but some people may not be good candidates to take it, the experiences you described I can't relate to, so it's good to hear what someone experiences who may have schizophrenia.
Lauren, thanks for your honesty and intelligent reflection. Most of my life I have worked in psychiatric inpatient facilities, and your experiences help me to understand my patents much better.
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oh my god … i had an episode like this induced by stress and malnutrition 😵💫 glad you got through it!
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Thank you very much for sharing your experiences.
Some people take mushrooms excactly fot this: Ego dissolution.
It is not uncommon to forget what you thought before, who you are, and that you took mushrooms. And even if you remember it does not count if you are "stuck in eternity".
I had this experience myself.
You don't need to be shizophrenic to experience these things.
The horror begins, when you try to hold on, when you try to fight and get out of this state.
It needs A LOT of trust beforehand, or as in my case A LOT of suffering.
If you take mushrooms only for having a good time, they sooner or later will teach you respect.
Thank you so much for your honest video. I am so sorry you had to experience what you went through.
Thank you for your honesty and vulnerability. That is always the most meaningful in my opinion.
Aww, thank you for sharing! What probably happened (aside from your condition interferring) was you resisted ego dissolution which lead to your anxiety about forgetting your name (aka your pride wouldn't allow your ego to die).
For anyone contemplating taking mushrooms, think of them as a therapeutic tool and they want to assist you in becoming a better person by focusing on past traumatic experiences and other things that bother your mind on a subconscious level. The mushrooms bring these things to the surface and if you don't confront them head on and literally face your demons, then you'll describe your experience as a "bad trip" ( no such thing as a bad trip, just therapeuticly challenging trips if you resist what the medicine is trying to teach you).
Lastly, ensure you have a comfortable set and setting (mindset and place to take them, preferably with a sober trip sitter who has themselves tripped before), wait 2 hours after your first dose before you take more, and I would advise against taking psychedelics if you are on the spectrum of schizophrenia or have a family history of schizophrenia. That's what made me want to watch this video, I seen the title and then the channel name and was immediately curious.
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I don’t have schizophrenia and I have had this exact same type of psychotic episode while on mushrooms. I completely forgot who I was, where I was and how to speak. You are lucky you at least had someone there with you to keep you as grounded as possible, I was stupid enough to do it alone when I had this experience. I still hope to repair my relationship with psychedelics now that I’m in a healthier place than I was, because I do think it was a traumatic experience for me that I need to work through.
Same. I wanna try them again but I fear I could go mad. It was a very traumatic experience. I have a borderline disorder i suppose that was the cause of that. I hat two connections and I felt i was gonna die. I really wanna try but I'm scared
@@QueenKaryBoO i would recommend you to take a 1g dose, known as a microdose if i’m not wrong, but before that, state your main purpose why you’re taking them, what you want from your trip or experience and have an open mind to it, let yourself feel, breathe and enjoy. remember it lasts 6 hours, whenever you think you’re going crazy, you’re not, it’s your ego. i hope my pov can help! :)
@@QueenKaryBoO I would recommend you to absolutely not listen to the person above. Our brains are extremely delicate mechanisms that are processing tons of information in a correct way in order to keep us sane.
Playing with these mechanisms, especially while already having a personality disorder, is risky AF.
I'm sorry to hear you had a bad trip, but I highly think you're rather going to harm yourself even more if you continue.
Psychotherapy on borderline disorder usually take years, depending on how late in life you start, but it's still more effective and surely safer than experimenting with drugs... :(
@@QueenKaryBoO Listen to that fear. It's trying to protect you from something that could incapacitate you mentally for the rest of your life.
Fun times, why don't you give Jesus a try?
You are very brave, thanks for sharing your experiences so candidly.
its like they say, the most terrifying trips will teach you the most, even if it means to never do them again. I'm glad you're very healthy now and very aware. I can only imagine what it is like to have your condition. but I'm glad you're holding on strong, that gives me hope. as well as others
Thank you for sharing. I had a similar experience with a drug I thought was thc, but it triggered something in me. I felt like everything was opposite and people were reading my mind, i felt like I had to do stuff that made no sense...I was hospitalized and it took me a while to recover. You speaking on this helps me personally feel less embarrassed about it.
that sounds so scary. hope you're doing better love
Oh...The Simulation! Thanks for sharing. So important
Dear Lauren, I'm sorry to hear that you had such a difficult experience with psilocybin. It sounds terribly disorienting and unsettling. Your video is an important warning to all professionals who work with psychedelics to screen for schizophrenic and psychosis issues in participants, and to those with these types of mental health challenges NOT to consider taking them.
Thank you for sharing your personal experiences, not only with psychedelic medicine but also with your whole struggle with schizophrenia, including your healing and growth. Coming out and sharing your experiences helps heal the world of the stigma around mental health issues and elicits more compassion for the suffering they cause. You are such a real, smart and likeable human, and your willingness to be open, honest and sincere about your personal experiences is an inspiration to me and many others.❤
The therapist I see has been going to lectures on the use of psychedelics with Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT). I'm diagnosed with DID (as well as having a history with psychotic depression) and her and I have talked at length about how similar the experience of being on psychedelics is to having DID. I've been dabbling in some psychoactives/psychedelics and it has really helped with system communication -- it really helps soften the severe dissociative barriers between parts. However, too high of doses have resulted in similar experiences as to the latter trips you described. I've been thinking a lot about how psychedelics may interact with other disorders like schizophrenia, and I am so glad I found your video. Thank you for sharing your experience!
The amount of fear you have inside determine how your symptoms imo, the best of luck, thanks for sharing.❤️
When I saw this video I thought, "oh no, this could be bad". It really depends on your mood and state of mind as to what kind of trip you'll have. I know if I'm worrying about things, the psychedelics make me feel like there's a coil in my mind tightening up, the worries and fears get stronger and there's more pressure. That coil just tightens and tightens until I either find a release and let it go, or everything breaks and I just start crying my head off. There are great experiences with psychedelics, and there are bad ones, and it really depends on where you are mentally when you take them.
If you're dealing with mental health issues, psychedelics can be very dangerous. Everyone should be careful and understand yourself before taking a new substance.
Thank you for sharing your story, I'm so glad you made this video. However, it looked like you had a very hard time sharing that experience, I could literally feel your emotion while you were talking about it and can see that it was an extremely traumatic experience for you that you may still be trying to heal from. So, it really means a lot to me that you shared it.
My brother has pretty bad psychosis and schizophrenia from when he used to do me+h and I always wondered what mushrooms would do for him.... if it would help or hurt him. He has been clean and off the M3+h for a few years now, but has been permanently damaged by it. When I stayed at my mom's house, I would hear him at night talking to his voices and it really terrified me to witness that. I've been really wanting to help him so bad and wanted to find people's testimonials about taking mushrooms for treating it. I was hoping it would have an opposite effect for him and possibly reverse it, but it is now evident to me that it could actually cause it to get a lot worse if he were to do it. Sincerely, thank you for sharing your story.
Wow, i never thought we would get a video like this from you. I had drug induced psychosis about a year ago and i dont know if i should ever try psychs again.
Do not use illegal drugs
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hospitalised with drug induced psychosis from weed. 2 months in hospital, missed my exams and lost my college year and still get strange hallucinations from time to time... not worth it dude
@@elizabethgirard3625 thanks Elizabeth. People probably shouldn't avoid taxes either, doesn't stop them 🤭
@@summer7529 I appreciate the comment homie. I use weed to chill out and not freak out from my BPD but sometimes instead of feeling anxious and paranoid i just start to almost feel like i slip back into the psychosis. Theres been a few times for an hour or two i would feel like i was going back into it again occasionally
Dont use psychedelic drugs because its not safe if you are having psychosis. What i do once in a while is only a very tiny dose of mushrooms about .5 (point five) as compared to the average dosing which is about 1-4grams i would say
As someone with Paranoid Schizophrenia, THANK YOU for making this informative video that helped me decide not to try magic mushrooms.
I think that microdosing is a new concept
that is very experimental for those who
suffer from mental illness and hasn't been researched thoroughly enough
I believe a macro dose is a much different experience then a microdosing .. i would say don’t give up on microdosing experimenting ..
It's been shown in many clinical peer reviewed studies that the effects of shrooms on a person with Schizophrenia and a few other mental disorder will only make the disorder much worse. Also, people with these disorders will have the worse trip you could possibly have. It's recommend that people with any sever mental disorder to NEVER take shrooms.
Good decision but don't rule out microdosing, which has zero conscious effect.
@@TheRusselmuscle In fact it hasn't but do keep making things up.
Psychedelics can induce long term psychosis, 5 years on lithium is not fun. I know. Please if you have too, then use an experienced trip sitter, with a carefull set and setting., so one can be talked down and pleasantly distracted. Thanks for your honesty, psychotic experience is a more taboo topic than neurotic ones. So I think videos like this are very supportive for those who tend to think like this. 💚
Psychelics don't induce psychosis but can trigger dormant trauma in the body which triggers the psychosis. If it didn't happen when it did, it would have happened down r
the road.
@@motucker44 unmet needs are a fact of life, everyone has them to a lesser or greater extent. Trauma is the result of repeated unmet needs stored in the unconscious (imo: brain, body & soul: past, present & future - not just past and body as you indicate). Psychosis or neurosis is a strategy to communicate/manifest this consciously. ime 5 years heavy tripping several times a week will for most people unbalance one's life and create unmet needs. self-medication has risks.
Great video. Very honest and candid. I do not have schizoaffective disorder but my past experience with mushrooms and LSD was similar to what you describe. It started out great but got worse every time until about the 5th time. I didnt consume excessive amounts, but it didnt matter. I decided I didnt want to go down that rabbit hole anymore as i was afraid that i would be permanently damaged if i continued. To this day i warn people to be careful with that stuff as it is highly unpredictable.
The anxiety and scared feelings are very common with your first handful of trips ❤❤
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From time to time I love watching your videos, and really do appreciate your life story..and learn a lot from you about your disorder and other mental illnesses that others may suffer from so that perhaps one day I could at least understand something and maybe assist someone if need be. Thank you so much for your insight.
I really appreciate your bravery to be so open and share your personal experience. My sister and my son have developed schizo affected disorder. As a brother and parent it’s really hard seeing your loved ones go through this. Not being versed in mental health recovery makes me feel helpless and useless. I hope you watching more of your channel to learn from you and be better prepared. Thank you
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That’s for sharing your story. This sounds very difficult. I am sorry to hear it was so bad 😔
That said, without knowing your dose it’s really hard to use your anecdote in order to properly assess risk.
I actually had a similar experience when I took too much weed where I could not remember who I was or who the other people were or where I even was. I dont have schizophrenia but other mental health issues and ADHD. I definitely think our experience of drugs is completely different to people with neurotypical brains.
SAME HERE, i took like two hits of a joint and completely forgot everything about me so i had to say my name over and over again to try to piece together of my life. It was insane
You’ll never know…
People who I know who have schizophrenia have the same exact experience ur talking about
That's the entire point of ketamine. K holes are crazy
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i had a similar experience the first time i got high from weed too. it was like the 5th time i smoked and it hadnt worked before, so i decided to take 2 huge bong rips and held it in for 30 sec each. the next thing i remember was regaining consciousness on the floor probably 5 minutes later, while my friends were goofing around in the room lol. then for the next few hours i struggled to remember who and where i was, i kept thinking that it wasnt real. i remember wanting to jump off the balcony (it was prob the 10th floor of an apartment building) bc i thought that i was dreaming and that would make me wake up. now, i appreciate using weed every once in a while bc i feel like it gives me a new perspective on things sometimes. if i use it more consistently though, i start to feel some really undesirable effects
i appreciate that you commented this, i thought i was a total weirdo for having that experience 😂😂 ive never met anyone else whos forgotten their name and stuff from weed, just panic attacks
This might be a weird comment but, thank you. I have been getting "signs" that I should try mushrooms lately, as if it would solve my issues. I am confident that your experience, whilst a very personal one, is a very important piece of the bigger picture puzzle. I will apply this when moving forward. Thank you again!
They wont solve your problems but will give you more insight on how to solve them. They demand respect! Start low and slow.
If you don't think you have any schizophrenia risk they can be great for both recreation/spiritual/Therapeutic applications, and They're self moderating, they aren't addictive, but possibly habit forming for some people
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It's not like it'll solve your problems as much as it will give you the tools to solve your problems. Unless you take a heroic dose and meet God, that'll solve your problems pretty quick but it'll also change your entire life
Excellent description of what you experienced. Much appreciated. Gives me insight that I was after.
I had a similar experience with mushrooms as your last trip. I've learned to only use psilocybin when the mood and time are right. In my experience, you have to be in a good headspace or the drugs will amplify negative thoughts. I do not have schizophrenia, but that experience helped me have more empathy and understanding of people who live with serious mental illness. I took positive lessons from this bad trip...but I would never want to go through that again.
People who live with schizophrenics are the ones who need empathy and understanding.
@@MargaritaMagdalena I wasn't speaking about people living with schizophrenics...I was relating to people that live with mental illness. But of course, more empathy and understanding is needed in general. I wasn't excluding anyone with my comment, just sharing an experience and the lesson I took from it.
@@kayli7278 When I was 17, the undiagnosed schizophrenic in my life came to me and said: "Your little brother told me he wants to know what human meat tastes like". I was in shock and in pain, which the schizophrenic was obviously enjoying. But, it doesn't make me different, special and unique. So I should just shut up and not disturb people. Poor schizos are the ones who need our empathy and understanding.
I was diagnosed with schizophrenia last year and I often become fixated in believing we are living in a simulation during psychosis. I really appreciate your testimony it really helps a lot.
I just had an ego death experience the other day while floating on the river. I too saw the simulation. I also experienced this on LSD and I'm certain that it's true. I witnessed the corner of the universe from every person's perspective. It was insane seeing that deep down we are all the same thing and that we have this illusion we are a "self"
Is that a bad belief for you… I often find that belief soothing, so it’s a little odd to hear people find it so scary
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It is very brave of you to share this personal information openly and it is very interesting and valuable to listen to.
Thank you for sharing your experience, it is bound to help others with schizo-affective disorder. 🧡
After watching in entirety, I have a suggestion that I hope you'll consider for future videos. I am appreciative that you offered information about the scientific data & research being conducted, as well not condemning the use altogether for others. I do wish, however that you would have had that snippet in the beginning of the video. So that others could have heard it too, even if they weren't able to, finish for one reason or another.
My husband was dx'd in 2018, the medication he was on killed the man that he was, its like we don't even know each other anymore. I went with him to his doctor appointments and discussing things, and we did end up getting to the point of gettitng him off the medication as a slow taper. But I'm still afraid he's gone & not coming back it is excruciatingly painful for me & he says things, but his words never match his actions. I know that it can take time to get these neurotoxins out of the body....I'm just praying that the damage isn't permanent. This one doctor was describing the effects of this particular medications as being akin to a lobotomy. I had to do some research, as lobotomy wasn't something I knew much about. After doing sp, however, I 100% agree with the comparison.
I so appreciate your candid snd honesty 💕
I am so grateful that you shared your experience and feel you are incredibly brave. Both to try something experimental, multiple times and also to share what you experienced so openly! Thank you.
It has often been my thought that a person with schizophrenia (I support those with this neurodiversity and have 2 family members with it) lives a sort of permanent existence in an "ego melting" state to one degree or another. Your experience of not remembering who "you" are or what your name was is what I believe having your ego dissolve would feel like. I can imagine it would be incredibly scary and while it's something some look for in their psychedelic experience, living with a form of that everyday would be much harder and trying a medicine that could worsen this I find incredibly brave!
Thank you for sharing 🤗🙏
I also had a terrible experience on mushrooms! Thanks for sharing your experience!
I remember seeing myself and the objects around me, but they had lost all of their meaning. I was the same meaningless clump of molecules that made up the furniture or the walls. Definite visuals of waves from music or television. I thought I was going to be stuck in that frame of my mind forever, and I panicked for 8 hours. Never again!
You explained it so good
This is the first time I have seen your videos, I certainly enjoyed your honesty and you are a very beautiful person thank u!
The description of the paranoid thought process experienced at 9:44 is so well-said. Thank you for your sharing your experience!
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I tried mushrooms once, over a decade ago, and it was a crazy and interesting experience with the final conclusion "literally never again". I can remember a metallic sound coming out of incredibly vivid candles' firelight, I was an ancient dinosaur in a plasticine marsh green room that wanted to eat me and I couldn't get out, and my heavy tail was annoyingly restless for hours.
Geez what type of mushrooms did you eat. I have taking all types of shrooms and psychs and never had that type of experience.
@@jsoo67 It was definitely psilocybe. Most likely, psilocybe semilanceata, but I can't be sure about that. I guess the strength of their effect depends on different variables, including psilocin that varies from species to species.
Also, there is a possibility that you are just not that sensitive to the psychoactive component :)
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Sounds more like PCP trip
@@fishfire_2999 Well, perhaps you've tried that stuff you've mentioned, and to you my experience may sound like smth similar. But I haven't. What I describe was the effect of mushrooms - the only "drug" I've ever tried. Psilocybe can cause wild hallucinations. Perhaps it's somehow similar to other PD, I do not know, I am not an expert in that.
Listening to her experience was like listening to everyone's experience. Psychotic disorder, or not. It's just, with a psychotic disorder, you can interpret the experience in a pathological way, and it only add on to your delusions.
I like to think self awareness will cure it, if you simply leave yourself open to interpretation rather than trying to figure things out.
Unfortunately, this may not be the case. I haven't taken psychedelics longer than when I had my +1 year schizophrenia/psychosis, but I'm ready to explore my consciousness again.
Psychedelics never triggered my psychosis at all. But sometimes weed, and years of stress did.
Thank you for providing a cautionary tale about using mushrooms or other hallucinogenic drugs, particularly for people who have psychotic disorders. I have bipolar disorder, and I have a friend who's been like YOU HAVE TO TRY KETAMINE, IT'S CHANGED MY LIFE! She has unipolar depression, and ketamine has been shown to have some therapeutic value in the treatment of depression. However--and I told her this--I think you have to be VERY careful if you're using ketamine or microdosing when you have a major mental illness that can lead to psychosis (as bipolar disorder can, too). The people who are hardcore pushing people to try this stuff (often instead of meds, which is also dangerous) are a clear and present danger to people with schizophrenia-spectrum symptoms and bipolar disorder.
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Taking hallucinogens when you hallucinate anyway sounds like a really bad idea.
It very very much is.
Micro dose
She addressed that. Did you even watch it?
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Thank you so much for the input, I was actually looking into possibly trying it for treatment resistant depression and ptsd. I do not suffer from psychosis, however I did have reservations about it since I have strong dissociative features of ptsd and I am really scared of bad-tripping because of my vulnerability to such stuff. Your story kind of comforts me into choosing to be more cautious about it.
Try microdosing magic truffles!
Start with 0,5 grams FRESH truffles in the morning. (You need to chew them!)
Then 1 day nothing. Day 3 you take 0,7. And so on. You need to find your 'sweetspot', so begin with a low dose. Upper it with max. 0,2 a time.
(DAY 1: Microdosing day
DAY 2: Transition Day
DAY 3: Microdosing day
DAY 4: Transition Day
*CYCLE*: continue for 1 to 2 months
*RESET*: 2 to 4 weeks rest)
I promise, you won't go on a bad trip, if you do this. You will feel more relaxed, and your reflexes and perception will remain clear. If you get tired, take a nap. Your brain makes new connections, so that's very normal in the beginning. And when you are under a lot of stress, are depressed, your body goes into rest mode, all fatigue comes out in the first few days. Drink plenty of water and also take extra vitamin C.
Wishing you all the best!
Sending you love! ❤
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You shared your experiences in a very articulate way - thank you. I am living in Oregon and two bills passed last year which concern me. One of them basically decriminalizes the possession of ANY drugs, including multiple types, so long as you only have a "personal use" quantity. That would include heroin, methamphetamine, and whatever. By "decriminaalize" I mean that you get a fine or agree to a one-time "substance use evaluation" interview-that's it. Seems to me it basically makes using these drugs, some of which have wreaked terrible havoc on hundreds of thousands of lives, not much worse than a parking ticket. The second is a bill setting up psilocybin "clinics". It is true that psilocybin seems to have benefit for some persons with some types of mental or emotional disorders. The problem is that, as you are describing, they can also have disastrous effects for other persons. The bill setting up these clinics not only did not require any screening by any health care professional--it pretty much EXCLUDED ANY type of mental health or health care professional from being involved in the running of the "clinic" or administering the drug and monitoring the patient. Seemed to me like a very poorly designed arrangement. I urge anyone thinking about using a hallucinogenic substance to treat something like depression, PTSD etc. to be evaluated first by a mental health professional to evaluate potential risk, and hopefully find a clinic with staff skilled in using it, monitoring patients and managing any bad reactions.,
I had a spontaneous 6 hour TGA (Transient Global Amnesia) and totally lost my short term memory. I kept asking my husband the same questions. I was taken to hospital where I stayed for 2 days having CT/MRI scans but nothing was found. I believe the
episode was caused by the stress I was under.
I had TGA 14 months ago, lasting about 12 hrs. Spent a day in hospital for CT/MRI scans, too, but I believe my TGA episode was caused by the severe case of covid I had just had (I'd been hospitalised for a week for covid a couple of months earlier).
I'm so glad you are sharing this.
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Your channel is so impressive and informative. Thank you.