Voth Transwarp Speed Chasing down Voyager heading away at over Warp 6 from 90 lightyears away. Note Voth sensors detect the plasma signature, and the number of lifeforms aboard the ship.
The Voth's transwarp tech covered 90 light years in about 20 seconds. At the speed it would only take them about 4 hours to travel from where Voyager initially started it's journey at the Delta quadrant to Earth.... Voyager in comparison is like a rowboat.
And yet its never even addressed why they nor the researchers before nor after the ruling by the counsel never took them home. Made no sense across the board. Counsel wanted them out of their space, reseracher wanted to study them and find out about their origin world.
@@Joshua-ew6ks No, the scene was continuous when you take it in context despite the cutaway. Transwarp is significantly faster than standard warp drive, the Borg was able to come and go to the Alpha quadrant in quick fashion using transwarp conduits. 90 light-years in 20 seconds seems about right to me.
90 light years away, still can count how many people are on the voyager cruising at warp speed, i think this is more impressive than the ultraspeed of transwarp :D
I would have LOVED to see way more from the Voth, their technology was thousands of years ahead of the Federation. Can you imagine how cool it would have been to see more of it.
@@benjaminrobledo5466 in theory but without a reason like war or extinction, technology develops slower generally on an as needed basis. Look at WWII. the technology jumps in those few years was more then weve done in the last 30 years. 1 thing war is good for is tech advancements.
Traversed 90 light years in just a few seconds. Yknow the closest star system to Earth is just a measly 4ly? Yet at our current hypothesized methods of propulsion it'd take a colony ship multiple generations to get there.
It's not too bad, basking in the sunlight all day long and being carefree, having an intermeal snack between other intermeal snacks. Some species gets to live way above 100 years as well. I guess it's not a bad existence for a lizard.
ectotherms dont need to spend energy to produce body heat, so they can divert all that to growth, and longevity, however they are very sluggish without heat.
Considering that the head Voth minster wanted to put the crew of Voyager in a detainment camp and destroy their ship I don't think that would have happened. She even went as far to say it would be in the crew of Voyager's best interest if the Voth minister never saw them again, as they are a threat to their current origin belief.
@@randomrazr Not really, the elders didn't want their Doctrine challenge, and the crew of Voyager was proof that the Voth originated on Earth not the Delta quadrant. Also the ship they beamed Voyager into was a city ship; which measured 9.8 km in length. Who knows how many Voth live on that ship, the last thing the elders of the Voth would want is them taking Voyager anywhere near the Alpha quadrant for fear of their Doctrine being challenged.
Since the female leader wanted Voyager out of there as soon as possible, stupid Chakotay should have requested that the Voth just deposit Voyager 1000 light years from Federation space. It would barely have taken the Voth ship an hour or two to get there, and this decisively prevents Voyager from ever getting back to Voth space (which is what the leader wanted).
Exactly it's moronic how that wasn't addressed. Or even why either one of the researchers never did as such, at the very least to chronicle their home world earth. Or after the fact with the head researcher on his own free time.
90 ly in 10 seconds...estimate 100 lightyears in 10 seconds. (Nice round numbers to work with)... 1000 ly in 100 seconds, 10000ly in 1000 seconds, diameter of Milky Way galaxy (100000ly) 10000 seconds.10000 seconds is like just under three hours. Estimate 100000 ly for 3 hours...From here to Andromeda galaxy (2.5 million ly) would take about 3 days. Now, that's only the "nearest" galaxy. 2.5 million, is a good astronomical number to work with cuz there's 4 quarters in a dollar.
90 light years in a matter of seconds! Ha! beat that Hyperdrive! I have no idea whether that's faster than Hyperdrive though so maybe I spoke too soon.
hyperdrive is similar to transwarp, the more power you imput into a hyperdrve or a transwarp drive, it can go faster. the voth most likely have this capability, however, they crunch a few days or weeks into a matter of seconds
We have know idea of there weapons cabilties we are just going off assumption they can beat a borg Cube or they die from one know one knows because they never meet the borg unless I missed something?
@@allistancooper1502 ， The Voth is the oldest civilization in the quadrant. They are 65 million years ahead of Federation. Federation just 30 years in the future could come up with trans photon torpedoes and armor tech, what can 65 million years do? They turned off voyager remotely, made it unable to do anything. They can do the same to Borg cubes.
I always wondered what would stop the Voth from coming to Earth and reclaiming it? Technically they could do it but I figured the only thing keeping them from doing that is their doctrine, which sees the idea of Earth being their home planet as heresy.
answered your own question there. The Voth feel that they were one of the first civilizations to exist in what is known as the Delta Quadrant, and since they have a complete history spanning 20 Million Years, there is no arguing with that logic. Their Doctrine stipulates that any native species that lives in Voth Space that had evolved there is welcomed so long as they submit to Voth authority and rules while in it; this is where Doctrine would begin to fall apart if the Distant Origin Theory is indeed verified since it would mean that the Voth themselves _aren't_ a native species of Voth Space, and that the fundamentals of their Doctrine were all built atop a single great lie. Chakotay however sees this in another light: That the Voth are not cowardly refugees that fled their homeworld with no legacy to bind them, but instead they are brave explorers that boldly went where no one had gone before.
Their ideology, the fact that Earth is in the boondocks, their respect for indigenous species, the entire federation including their allies like Q and The Organians.
@@alphanerd7221 the voth tech is not that far ahead of borg tech. any species that has achieved transwarp tech is on a different tier for example voth and borg. a borg cube is 3km on each side and they have fleets of them. a voh city ship is only 11km long.
@@joeswanson733 Voth Ships are much faster. Borg "Trans Warp" is a series of worm holes. The Voth have actual transwarp. The Voth can cloak individual people and phase through matter. They make the Borg look like cave men. A voth 2 man science vessel is more power than a Borg Cube. The Voth City Ship is bigger than a Borg Cube and the Voth have plenty of those too. The Borg aren't that tough. Next Gen Fans have a deluded sense of that race.
+Re bel This was a big question, since the Voth certainly lived near the Borg for a long time. If anything, the nearby existence of the Voth makes the Borg look weaker.
+Re bel In Star Trek Online, the Voth have been embroiled in an even battle with the Borg for centuries, and try to and even had to convert one of their City-Ships into a vessel designed specificly to fight The Borg. They try to use Omega Particles harvested from a Dyson Sphere(from TNG) as a weapon against the Borg. There is a scenario in Star Trek Online where the Borg are severely weakened and many Borg become disconnected from the Collective, resulting in the Borg Queen transmitting a virus to disconnected Borg to return to the Hive. In this moment of weakness the Voth and the Undine(Species 8472) converge on the Borg Hive to attempt to destroy it.
@Shining Armor Exactly, though not directly. They planned to use the Omega Particles to devestate areas of space and make it un-traversable, blocking the Borg(and anyone else) from reaching them. It's why we needed to stop them, and why the Dyson Sphere was abandoned by it's makers(The Solenae, those fish men who were abducting people in that one TNG episode) in the first place. Something bad happened with it's ability to produce Omega Particles, and the whole sphere was a powder keg waiting to blow if anything further went wrong. The Voth Inquisition were trying to cover up how dangerous the sphere was. They also claimed it was created by their ancient ancestors, but dissidents in their scientific community discovered the truth, and one of them defects to join your crew after sabotaging the Inquisitions efforts to harvest Omega Particles.
Hell... Being from Earth originally... A whole Both spin off. "These are the voyages of the Ship. It's mission... To find new worlds to call home... To go where no Both has been before." Etc etc.
It was a night like this forty million years ago I lit a cigarette, picked up a monkey skull to go The sun was spitting fire, the sky was blue as ice I felt a little tired, so I watched 'Miami Vice' And walked the dinosaur, I walked the dinosaur Open the door, get on the floor Everybody walk the dinosaur Open the door, get on the floor Everybody walk the dinosaur Open the door, get on the floor Everybody walk the dinosaur Open the door, get on the floor Everybody walk the dinosaur I met you in a cave, you were painting buffalo I said I'd be your slave, follow wherever you go That night we split a rattlesnake and danced beneath the stars You fell asleep, I stayed awake and watched the passing cars And walked the dinosaur, I walked the dinosaur Open the door, get on the floor Everybody walk the dinosaur Open the door, get on the floor Everybody walk the dinosaur Open the door, get on the floor Everybody walk the dinosaur Open the door, get on the floor Everybody walk the dinosaur One night I dreamed of New York You and I roasting blue pork in the Statue of Liberty's torch Elvis landed in a rocket ship Healed a couple of leapers and disappeared But where was his beard? A shadow from the sky much too big to be a bird A screaming crashing noise louder than I've ever heard It looked like two big silver trees that somehow learned to soar Suddenly a summer breeze and a mighty lion's roar I killed the dinosaur, I killed the dinosaur Open the door, get on the floor Everybody kill the dinosaur Open the door, get on the floor Everybody kill the dinosaur Open the door, get on the floor Everybody kill the dinosaur Open the door, get on the floor Everybody kill the dinosaur Open the door, get on the floor Everybody kill the dinosaur Open the door, get on the floor Everybody kill the dinosaur Open the door, get on the floor Everybody kill the dinosaur Open the door, get on the floor Everybody kill the dinosaur Boom boom acka lacka lacka boom Boom boom acka lacka boom boom
I did some calculations around the download if data that comes up. They downloaded the whole,e database in about 2.5 seconds. My best guess is the Voth are between 200-400 years more advanced than the Federation. Not much but not all civilisations evolve at the same rate.
I remember watching this episode back when it first aired and I recall never having been so irritatingly frustrated with a leader of an alien species. I mean, damn... the DNA evidence that supported the Voth's "distant origin theory" was solid and practically fool-proof, and to have their leader be so stubborn and stuck-up and proceeding to shrug it off as if it were trash.... (!*@&#$(%$. "Leaders" like that... oh man... short of a shady dental professional with a bad record, there's nothing else that I can think of that grinds (or makes me want to grind) my teeth more.
+rkmugen Yeah but imagine, your million years of history being doubted by an upstart pathetic species with barely any advanced technology. When you are even stronger then the borg, remind yourself this. These guys were able to transport the Voyager into their ship, and completely disable it in a matter of seconds. Then look at the trouble the borg went through. Nah I think their leaders were very tolerant of these outsiders.
Fewt Meh.... i guess nobody wants to have their beliefs put to the test..... regardless of how advanced anyone from any side (of an argument) is. For me though..... truth > pride.
While it's clear the Voth ships are extremely fast, keep in mind there might have been a few minutes, possibly hours, passing from the time they change shots at 0:25 from the outside of the ship back to the interior.
That's unlikely. It was edited as a continuous sequence. He activates the cloak, we cut to outside and see it activating, then it cuts back to inside and he continues talking.
@@RichardStrong86 It's also hard to believe that they were stood in the exact same position and continued the exact same conversation for 'possibly hours', too. The scene definitely implies it's continuous.
The Voth were very wrong here. Starfleet has tremendous experience with cloaking devices thanks to those pesky Romulans and both experimented with phase cloaking devices.
They cloak by being out of phase with space-time. The fact that Voyager's crew detected them and went straight to knowing people had boarded instead of assuming they're just harmless spatial anomalies, since there's TONS of those in Star Trek's space, is a bit of a plot hole. But they only have like 45 minutes to tell a story so we ignore that.
Why is Voyager using only warp 6? They can make warp 9.975, maybe not all the time but shouldn't they fly a little faster then warp 6 if they want to reach other end of the galaxy? Even 6.1 would make a huge difference.
On Star Trek Online The Voth have cyber armor which is an extra energy shield that is immune to energy weapon fire. That tech is on their ships and ground assualt walkers. Federation phasers suck against the Voth, however Klingon disruptors work better. The Romulan plasma weapons work even better. Most gamers get antiproton beams to deffent against the Voth.
It would make a huge difference, but the slower they go the less maintenance they have to do, and in a resource-scarce area they might need to ration their supplies of deuterium and dilithium.
Just like with real engines, running the Warp Drive causes strain on the components, and lessens the efficiency. Without access to replacement parts or a steady supply of fuel, the last thing Voyager wants to do is shorten the operational life of their Warp Drive.
I know I'm 2 years late, but they wouldn't go at warp 6.1, because integer warp speeds are the speeds where the engines are most efficient. (TNG tech manual). Hence, they'd go at warp 6 or warp 7, but they'd need a special reason to go at warp 6.1.
assuming "90 ly away" was determined near the start of the scene, and ~25 seconds later they just randomly decide that *now* is the right time to pull the brakes... that's 135 million times C (or logarithmically, 10^8.06 C). 70000 ly at that speed isn't even 6 hours. they could have ended the show by doing eight episodes of voyager in a voth ship.
did it only take seconds for them to travel 90 light years, or at close enough so they could have Voyager on their viewscreen (which usually has to be close, but maybe they can see them from light years away)
Yeah, there's no cuts in this. They just found them and caught up to them that quickly. While they were going at FTL speeds. And they matched speeds with them perfectly at close range and got on board. Voth are nuts.
@@onigojira but that doesn't mean the amount shown is the time passed, they don't generally show a ship flying for an hour if it takes an hour if just sitting there.
The thing I find hard to believe is that the Voth would be descended from hadrosaurs. It would be more likely they would be descended from theropods like Utahraptor.
i don't think humans are the only intelligent species in the time has had life, for all i no we could be the 2 or 3 times earth has have intelligent life form like us
The Voth's transwarp tech covered 90 light years in about 20 seconds. At the speed it would only take them about 4 hours to travel from where Voyager initially started it's journey at the Delta quadrant to Earth.... Voyager in comparison is like a rowboat.
And yet its never even addressed why they nor the researchers before nor after the ruling by the counsel never took them home. Made no sense across the board. Counsel wanted them out of their space, reseracher wanted to study them and find out about their origin world.
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep they didn't want to bother with lower life forms who had no rights.
Who says it was 20 seconds. That was a cut scene, no telling how long pass between the cut.
@@Joshua-ew6ks No, the scene was continuous when you take it in context despite the cutaway.
Transwarp is significantly faster than standard warp drive, the Borg was able to come and go to the Alpha quadrant in quick fashion using transwarp conduits. 90 light-years in 20 seconds seems about right to me.
@@03chrisv Okay.
The Voth was an interesting idea, they deserved more then one episode
Couldn't agree more.
Lots of critics and fans thought it was too ridiculous even for sci-if. But pretty clever lesson on zealotry.
Lol just one more episode!
@stephenblair67 It would be beautiful if they came in rescue of the Federation remainings after the Burn
@@FedoReds88 No. Nothing can save that idiotic idea.
90 light years away, still can count how many people are on the voyager cruising at warp speed, i think this is more impressive than the ultraspeed of transwarp :D
Yep☺️
And it's just a tiny science vessel
"Lets stop, because we don't want to end up in another quadrant"
I would have LOVED to see way more from the Voth, their technology was thousands of years ahead of the Federation. Can you imagine how cool it would have been to see more of it.
Wouldn't it have been millions of years more advanced?
Technically?
This was one of Voyagers best episodes, if not _the_ best. It has everything that makes a great ST episode.
@@benjaminrobledo5466 in theory but without a reason like war or extinction, technology develops slower generally on an as needed basis. Look at WWII. the technology jumps in those few years was more then weve done in the last 30 years. 1 thing war is good for is tech advancements.
Traversed 90 light years in just a few seconds. Yknow the closest star system to Earth is just a measly 4ly? Yet at our current hypothesized methods of propulsion it'd take a colony ship multiple generations to get there.
The Voth didn't evolve from dinosaurs. They invented transwarp and evolved into lizards after crossing the Warp Ten barrier. ;)
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I hate when that happens.
Don't you hate it when you accidentally go above the speed limit and turn into a lizard.
Was there an episode that made as little or less sense than that one?
"We went so fast we turned into fish/lizards."
Oh, ok...
It's not too bad, basking in the sunlight all day long and being carefree, having an intermeal snack between other intermeal snacks. Some species gets to live way above 100 years as well. I guess it's not a bad existence for a lizard.
ectotherms dont need to spend energy to produce body heat, so they can divert all that to growth, and longevity, however they are very sluggish without heat.
The Voth could have given the Voyager cloak and transwarp. Making their journey home safer and faster.
Considering that the head Voth minster wanted to put the crew of Voyager in a detainment camp and destroy their ship I don't think that would have happened. She even went as far to say it would be in the crew of Voyager's best interest if the Voth minister never saw them again, as they are a threat to their current origin belief.
@@steeltimberwolf they could have given them a ride back to the alpha quandrant if they really never wanted to see them agaun
@@randomrazr Not really, the elders didn't want their Doctrine challenge, and the crew of Voyager was proof that the Voth originated on Earth not the Delta quadrant. Also the ship they beamed Voyager into was a city ship; which measured 9.8 km in length. Who knows how many Voth live on that ship, the last thing the elders of the Voth would want is them taking Voyager anywhere near the Alpha quadrant for fear of their Doctrine being challenged.
Didn't Tom Paris achieve warp 10 with a shuttle?. He was everywhere at the same time...
@@manuell3505 yeah, and he turned into a salamander as a result of not being properly shielded.
Since the female leader wanted Voyager out of there as soon as possible, stupid Chakotay should have requested that the Voth just deposit Voyager 1000 light years from Federation space. It would barely have taken the Voth ship an hour or two to get there, and this decisively prevents Voyager from ever getting back to Voth space (which is what the leader wanted).
I think he was too scared to ask, since the Voth queen was very scary and could change her mind about letting them go if she's not pleased.
Exactly it's moronic how that wasn't addressed. Or even why either one of the researchers never did as such, at the very least to chronicle their home world earth. Or after the fact with the head researcher on his own free time.
Yes but that would have only happened if the ratings for voyager were low.
Plot line lol
I keep seeing people make this claim. The Voth wouldn't want the location of the blasphemy planet in their navigation charts.
@@alphanerd7221 That is why I said '1000 light years from Federation Space' rather than right at Earth. My point stands.
Season 3 episode 23 for those interested, it's on netflix.
Thank you!
Excellent episode. The female leader was Borg Queen-like in her ruthlessness.
This felt like Trek. I miss those days. Don't know why. Is it the optic, sound, story? 🤔 especially discovery doesn't trigger feelings like this. Imo.
Real Trek ended with Nemesis
90 light years plus the distance Voyager covered at Warp 6.2 in 18 seconds. Not too shabby. The City Ship could have taken them home in a short time.
90 ly in 10 seconds...estimate 100 lightyears in 10 seconds. (Nice round numbers to work with)... 1000 ly in 100 seconds, 10000ly in 1000 seconds, diameter of Milky Way galaxy (100000ly) 10000 seconds.10000 seconds is like just under three hours. Estimate 100000 ly for 3 hours...From here to Andromeda galaxy (2.5 million ly) would take about 3 days. Now, that's only the "nearest" galaxy. 2.5 million, is a good astronomical number to work with cuz there's 4 quarters in a dollar.
90 light years in a matter of seconds! Ha! beat that Hyperdrive!
I have no idea whether that's faster than Hyperdrive though so maybe I spoke too soon.
hyperdrive is similar to transwarp, the more power you imput into a hyperdrve or a transwarp drive, it can go faster. the voth most likely have this capability, however, they crunch a few days or weeks into a matter of seconds
lolaz wabby Transwarp in Trek is weird. They cant decide whether it's infinite speed or a different measure of FTL.
Bleachsoul13 Infinite velocity was achieved at warp 10 during an experiment using transwarp technology.
Mr48GOAT I know that. It's also used to describe Borg and Voth Hyper warp speeds.
Bleachsoul13 Did u actually just tell me that on a video called 'Voth Transwarp Speed' and didn't realize who uploaded it?
This has always been one of my favorite episodes
I see this clip just after the one where the whole Voyager is abducted and I laughed out loud.
Hah, right, they don't seem nearly as scary or evil here.
I did the same thing
この宇宙人、「特殊メイク」と言うより、もはや「被り物」ですよねえ。
そこが素晴らしいです！
I really want to know how advanced the Voth were when they left Earth. I wonder if they invented the warp drive at that point.
So 90LY in less than 15 seconds, on a scout/scientific vessel no less.
Fun fact: that is actually Woody Allen under all that prosthetic make-up.
The question no one asks , is there any voth borg drones , could they fend off a cube in the city ship
I think Voth can fend off a Borg Cube in an escape pod
@@VashtheStampede007 Yeah, I think you could be right there!
We have know idea of there weapons cabilties we are just going off assumption they can beat a borg Cube or they die from one know one knows because they never meet the borg unless I missed something?
@@allistancooper1502 ，
The Voth is the oldest civilization in the quadrant. They are 65 million years ahead of Federation.
Federation just 30 years in the future could come up with trans photon torpedoes and armor tech, what can 65 million years do? They turned off voyager remotely, made it unable to do anything. They can do the same to Borg cubes.
@@allistancooper1502 Their weapon capabilities are irrelevant as they appear to have the ability to completely neutralize anyone else's.
I always wondered what would stop the Voth from coming to Earth and reclaiming it? Technically they could do it but I figured the only thing keeping them from doing that is their doctrine, which sees the idea of Earth being their home planet as heresy.
answered your own question there. The Voth feel that they were one of the first civilizations to exist in what is known as the Delta Quadrant, and since they have a complete history spanning 20 Million Years, there is no arguing with that logic. Their Doctrine stipulates that any native species that lives in Voth Space that had evolved there is welcomed so long as they submit to Voth authority and rules while in it; this is where Doctrine would begin to fall apart if the Distant Origin Theory is indeed verified since it would mean that the Voth themselves _aren't_ a native species of Voth Space, and that the fundamentals of their Doctrine were all built atop a single great lie. Chakotay however sees this in another light:
That the Voth are not cowardly refugees that fled their homeworld with no legacy to bind them, but instead they are brave explorers that boldly went where no one had gone before.
Their ideology, the fact that Earth is in the boondocks, their respect for indigenous species, the entire federation including their allies like Q and The Organians.
This species is likely the reason why the Borg have Transwarp
As if the Borg could ever take a Voth ship.
@@alphanerd7221 it only takes one
@@saquist Which would never happen. You might as well wait for a cockroach to beat up a person.
@@alphanerd7221 the voth tech is not that far ahead of borg tech. any species that has achieved transwarp tech is on a different tier for example voth and borg.
a borg cube is 3km on each side and they have fleets of them. a voh city ship is only 11km long.
@@joeswanson733 Voth Ships are much faster. Borg "Trans Warp" is a series of worm holes. The Voth have actual transwarp. The Voth can cloak individual people and phase through matter. They make the Borg look like cave men.
A voth 2 man science vessel is more power than a Borg Cube.
The Voth City Ship is bigger than a Borg Cube and the Voth have plenty of those too.
The Borg aren't that tough. Next Gen Fans have a deluded sense of that race.
Wonder if the Voth ever went up against The Borg?: A Titan vs A Titan.
+Re bel This was a big question, since the Voth certainly lived near the Borg for a long time. If anything, the nearby existence of the Voth makes the Borg look weaker.
+Re bel In Star Trek Online, the Voth have been embroiled in an even battle with the Borg for centuries, and try to and even had to convert one of their City-Ships into a vessel designed specificly to fight The Borg. They try to use Omega Particles harvested from a Dyson Sphere(from TNG) as a weapon against the Borg.
There is a scenario in Star Trek Online where the Borg are severely weakened and many Borg become disconnected from the Collective, resulting in the Borg Queen transmitting a virus to disconnected Borg to return to the Hive. In this moment of weakness the Voth and the Undine(Species 8472) converge on the Borg Hive to attempt to destroy it.
+Lord Proteus Omega particles as weapons?! That's insane!!
Yet chillingly familiar.
@Shining Armor
Exactly, though not directly. They planned to use the Omega Particles to devestate areas of space and make it un-traversable, blocking the Borg(and anyone else) from reaching them. It's why we needed to stop them, and why the Dyson Sphere was abandoned by it's makers(The Solenae, those fish men who were abducting people in that one TNG episode) in the first place. Something bad happened with it's ability to produce Omega Particles, and the whole sphere was a powder keg waiting to blow if anything further went wrong.
The Voth Inquisition were trying to cover up how dangerous the sphere was. They also claimed it was created by their ancient ancestors, but dissidents in their scientific community discovered the truth, and one of them defects to join your crew after sabotaging the Inquisitions efforts to harvest Omega Particles.
How come on every damn Sci Fi show there always an alien called Veer?
It's like how in every american show, there's at least one john, or a smith
At least there isn't a Mexican soldier named Ramirez.
And they all have a dish that tastes like Swedish meatballs.
@@leestewart72 Maybe we're unknowingly eating Narn Breen, or Centauri Spoo. *ick*
There is only one plausible explanation...Lazy Name-crafting
Hell... Being from Earth originally... A whole Both spin off.
"These are the voyages of the Ship. It's mission... To find new worlds to call home... To go where no Both has been before." Etc etc.
Voth not both
It would take them about 3hrs 30mins to travel 70000lys, in case you're wondering...
It was a night like this forty million years ago
I lit a cigarette, picked up a monkey skull to go
The sun was spitting fire, the sky was blue as ice
I felt a little tired, so I watched 'Miami Vice'
And walked the dinosaur, I walked the dinosaur
Open the door, get on the floor
Everybody walk the dinosaur
Open the door, get on the floor
Everybody walk the dinosaur
Open the door, get on the floor
Everybody walk the dinosaur
Open the door, get on the floor
Everybody walk the dinosaur
I met you in a cave, you were painting buffalo
I said I'd be your slave, follow wherever you go
That night we split a rattlesnake and danced beneath the stars
You fell asleep, I stayed awake and watched the passing cars
And walked the dinosaur, I walked the dinosaur
Open the door, get on the floor
Everybody walk the dinosaur
Open the door, get on the floor
Everybody walk the dinosaur
Open the door, get on the floor
Everybody walk the dinosaur
Open the door, get on the floor
Everybody walk the dinosaur
One night I dreamed of New York
You and I roasting blue pork in the Statue of Liberty's torch
Elvis landed in a rocket ship
Healed a couple of leapers and disappeared
But where was his beard?
A shadow from the sky much too big to be a bird
A screaming crashing noise louder than I've ever heard
It looked like two big silver trees that somehow learned to soar
Suddenly a summer breeze and a mighty lion's roar
I killed the dinosaur, I killed the dinosaur
Open the door, get on the floor
Everybody kill the dinosaur
Open the door, get on the floor
Everybody kill the dinosaur
Open the door, get on the floor
Everybody kill the dinosaur
Open the door, get on the floor
Everybody kill the dinosaur
Open the door, get on the floor
Everybody kill the dinosaur
Open the door, get on the floor
Everybody kill the dinosaur
Open the door, get on the floor
Everybody kill the dinosaur
Open the door, get on the floor
Everybody kill the dinosaur
Boom boom acka lacka lacka boom
Boom boom acka lacka boom boom
How comes Galen didn`t take his ship to Earth, once he knew where it was?
They are only 90 lightyears away, be there in a sec fam!
I did some calculations around the download if data that comes up. They downloaded the whole,e database in about 2.5 seconds. My best guess is the Voth are between 200-400 years more advanced than the Federation. Not much but not all civilisations evolve at the same rate.
The nearest Borg vessel is 40 lightyears away. That is a 5 day journey even at maximum warp.
I remember watching this episode back when it first aired and I recall never having been so irritatingly frustrated with a leader of an alien species. I mean, damn... the DNA evidence that supported the Voth's "distant origin theory" was solid and practically fool-proof, and to have their leader be so stubborn and stuck-up and proceeding to shrug it off as if it were trash.... (!*@&#$(%$.
"Leaders" like that... oh man... short of a shady dental professional with a bad record, there's nothing else that I can think of that grinds (or makes me want to grind) my teeth more.
+rkmugen Yeah but imagine, your million years of history being doubted by an upstart pathetic species with barely any advanced technology. When you are even stronger then the borg, remind yourself this. These guys were able to transport the Voyager into their ship, and completely disable it in a matter of seconds. Then look at the trouble the borg went through. Nah I think their leaders were very tolerant of these outsiders.
Fewt Meh.... i guess nobody wants to have their beliefs put to the test..... regardless of how advanced anyone from any side (of an argument) is. For me though..... truth > pride.
rkmugen I agree, change does not come easy but its better than sticking your head in the sand.
Its exactly the same as telling hardcore creationist christians that evolution is a thing and scientifically proven.
I think the writers WANTED you to be annoyed with the aliens.
One of there best visual episodes with one their dumbest plot lines ever
Coleman Trebor is so powerful he came from a different universe altogether 🤣
Its All about Speed no matter whatever time space you’re in.
While it's clear the Voth ships are extremely fast, keep in mind there might have been a few minutes, possibly hours, passing from the time they change shots at 0:25 from the outside of the ship back to the interior.
That's unlikely. It was edited as a continuous sequence. He activates the cloak, we cut to outside and see it activating, then it cuts back to inside and he continues talking.
@@RichardStrong86 It's also hard to believe that they were stood in the exact same position and continued the exact same conversation for 'possibly hours', too. The scene definitely implies it's continuous.
Traveling at slow as balls speed
Don Won didn't want to go too fast otherwise they may have gone to Plaid.
The Voth were very wrong here. Starfleet has tremendous experience with cloaking devices thanks to those pesky Romulans and both experimented with phase cloaking devices.
They cloak by being out of phase with space-time. The fact that Voyager's crew detected them and went straight to knowing people had boarded instead of assuming they're just harmless spatial anomalies, since there's TONS of those in Star Trek's space, is a bit of a plot hole. But they only have like 45 minutes to tell a story so we ignore that.
Bipeds stood up straight. The dinosaurs all met their fate. Though they did leave and they were great the Undine blew their asses off!
I still believe that transwarp speed is any speed beyond warp 10 and what tom paris experienced is subspace drive....
How does someone detect something at Trans-warp speeds?
The Voth were pretty cool once you get past that one issue. I'd like to see them make an appearance in Discovery.
I hope they are revisited and they rejoin Earth
Why is Voyager using only warp 6? They can make warp 9.975, maybe not all the time but shouldn't they fly a little faster then warp 6 if they want to reach other end of the galaxy? Even 6.1 would make a huge difference.
On Star Trek Online The Voth have cyber armor which is an extra energy shield that is immune to energy weapon fire. That tech is on their ships and ground assualt walkers. Federation phasers suck against the Voth, however Klingon disruptors work better. The Romulan plasma weapons work even better. Most gamers get antiproton beams to deffent against the Voth.
It would make a huge difference, but the slower they go the less maintenance they have to do, and in a resource-scarce area they might need to ration their supplies of deuterium and dilithium.
+Nazael Rahl Who in the hell is going to clean the plasma manifolds of all that space goop going that Fast..Hahaha.
Just like with real engines, running the Warp Drive causes strain on the components, and lessens the efficiency.
Without access to replacement parts or a steady supply of fuel, the last thing Voyager wants to do is shorten the operational life of their Warp Drive.
I know I'm 2 years late, but they wouldn't go at warp 6.1, because integer warp speeds are the speeds where the engines are most efficient. (TNG tech manual).
Hence, they'd go at warp 6 or warp 7, but they'd need a special reason to go at warp 6.1.
This is a great episode very relevant to our existence and origins.
Why do all aliens speak perfectly great English
Rashad Roberts The universal translator is the reason why.
@@Yasuda9000Roddenberry had every TV since 1966 fitted with a Universal Translator. Doesn't seem to work on some foreign movies though
I take it you don't really watch the show
They got a translator up their arses...
There was one episode in DS9 where the universal translators were not working. The aliens heard the humans talking rubbish 🤣
assuming "90 ly away" was determined near the start of the scene, and ~25 seconds later they just randomly decide that *now* is the right time to pull the brakes... that's 135 million times C (or logarithmically, 10^8.06 C).
70000 ly at that speed isn't even 6 hours. they could have ended the show by doing eight episodes of voyager in a voth ship.
did it only take seconds for them to travel 90 light years, or at close enough so they could have Voyager on their viewscreen (which usually has to be close, but maybe they can see them from light years away)
Yeah, there's no cuts in this. They just found them and caught up to them that quickly. While they were going at FTL speeds. And they matched speeds with them perfectly at close range and got on board. Voth are nuts.
@@onigojira but that doesn't mean the amount shown is the time passed, they don't generally show a ship flying for an hour if it takes an hour if just sitting there.
I wonder how they would compete against the BORG ?
Which episode was this? Season and episode please
Season 3 Episode 23, Distant Origin. Google it and you will find the full episode online.
Eyes open
Why not telling us the episode and season 😔
The thing I find hard to believe is that the Voth would be descended from hadrosaurs. It would be more likely they would be descended from theropods like Utahraptor.
You think you know better than Voyager's computer?
feds should have cloaking lol
what's the episode?
Alexandre Albuquerque - Season 3 Episode 23, Distant Origin
ST: Discovery.. Transwarp is back!
The Voth had a bad Matriarch that's my opinion though she played well. I wish she wasn't so hard headed stubborn.
Voth vs. Borg...hmmmm!
i don't think humans are the only intelligent species in the time has had life, for all i no we could be the 2 or 3 times earth has have intelligent life form like us
Is that faster then transwarp?
Trans wasp is Essentially hyperspace and speed is limited to the amount of power you dump into the engine
what episode is this]
I think its distant origin
So these guys have been space-faring for 65 million years, yet they're only slightly ahead of the Federation in technology? lol
Did the transwarp drive evolve those dinos into the Voth?