The show still fell down on its own premise, the pilot has the ship arriving at the very fringes of know space, well outside of the federation. Far point station should be around 2700-3000 lightyears from earth and the ships maximum speed means it should be a several year journey. Suggesting that it was built near by rather than back in the Sol system. Despite this the grew makes it back to earth approximately once a season on average. It should have been far more like Voyager from the outset but they didn't commit.
@@DrewLSsix it was never meant to be Voyager just because they where far away from Federation space, this was nowhere near voyager. Also they only go to earth twice, once was for the Borg invasion in the best of both worlds season 3-4
Even if they didn’t - they’re much larger than Voyager. Over a 1000 people on board compared to 150-200 on Voyager. So it’s not hard to believe that the D would have a good sized compliment of torpedoes on board.
And by the 2370's it seems that ships have gotten the capability to replace their own photon torpedo's. Maybe antimatter generator tech had gotten more efficient enough for that.
I think it was actually stated in canon once that the torpedo compliment on a Galaxy class, Pre-Venture refit(which added phasers to the nacelles and a rear facing saucer launcher in the seperation plane that had 75 torpedoes of its own), was 275 photon torpedoes.
They probably top off inventory every time they visit a starbase. But they have the ability to manufacture more photon torps on the ship. They even manufacture advanced versions (tricobalt torps, quantum torps, chroniton torps, transphasic torps) in the novels.
@@steveperuski5547 I don't think one can replicate a whole torpedo. But one can replicate many parts, and manufacture others. Photons are not that advanced. The only component that is an expendable durable is the anti-matter for the warhead.
In the early seasons, Worf was always eager to fire weapons. Constantly leaping over the railing and shouting things like "I recommend we attack! With all weapons! We must inflict maximum damage! Now!" In the later seasons, Worf seemed reluctant to fire weapons. He followed his orders slowly, almost apathetically. As if he was disinterested and bothered by being told to press so many buttons.
In retrospect, they should have sent a Galaxy class to the Delta quadrant. It has about 250 torpedos and a crew of about 1000. They wrote themselves into a corner with the smaller Voyager. Also the extras shown on the show (which in one episode even included the current king of jordan) surpassed the supposed crew of about 150 people by far.
@@paulanerruhrpott6188 TBF I think the premise was a small but long range ship surviving in the Delta Quadrant. While I do love the show, I think that part didn't pan out as well as it should have
They fixed that when they found in a few episodes trade agreements to replenish their torpedoes "IE make new ones" and the borg helped with that manufacturing process too... remember Intrepid class ships are not warships they are science vessels and Voyager did not even have the isometric lab till 7 of 9 suggested it and got it built that room was empty Voyager was highly advanced prototype vessel even had new Phaser Compression rifles they used martial found in the delta quadrant too build new stuff... and after Voyagers return the isometric lab was made standard on all Intrepid class ships, Galaxy class vessels added one too because you know it made sense too have a lab station dedicated too only planetary research and long range sensors... especially on science vessels and front line ships like the Galaxy class
@@calvinnickel9995 Well, yes. Just in the beginning they didn't have the resources to do so, hence the statement that they had no way to replace them. They also severely rationed replicator use to preserve resource reserves. It was poor writing though to never include them overcoming the resource restrictions on screen. Once they found/secured enough deuterium they'd have the energy reserves to make more torpedoes either by replicating components or generating antimatter. Also, given that a chunk of the crew were Maquis, who likely had limited weapons access, it's only logical that they'd know how to come up with methods for making their own torpedoes.
I'd heard that the visual effects for photon torpedoes post $5000 per shot, whereas phasers cost $3000 per shot. Thus Paramount's preference for using phasers.
A full spead of torpedos can be 10 fired from a single launcher from a galaxy class best example is in the movie generations when riker ordered a spread on the bird of prey clocking with its shields down it looked like 1 torpedo but in reality there were 10 all huddled together and can look exactly like a single torpedo so its really hard to say how many the enterprise actually fired during its service but I like this compilation! Its pretty cool!
I don't think that's the case,they had budgetary constraints for the movie so the fx team just done the 1 photon torpedo when the dialogue for riker said "a spread that's also why the bop exploding is stock footage from the undiscovered country.
@mazzmo77 @mazzmo77 That's entirely possible, too. The movie was already past their budget, so they had to save money somewhere. I'm simply referring to the guides and blueprints of the Galaxy class starship for a canonical reason why we we saw one torpedo instead of multiple fired at the bird of prey in Generations when Riker said "Mr Worf prepare a spread of photon torpedos we have to hit them the instant they begin to cloak. We get one shot at this target, their primary reactor." We have seen in the series in the early seasons when the enterprise D fires a spread it comes out as 1 torpedo and then spreads into several. The best episode that comes to mind we see this in is Yesterday's Enterprise in season 3, and theres a few more I can't think off the top of my head. It could just be a whoopsie mistake they never fixed. Wouldn't be the first one and definitely not the last, Like in the Wrath of Kahn when the Enterprise is trying to escape Reliant in Mutara Nebula and they only had 4 minutes to warp out of the nebula. At one point, kirk asks savak Time from my mark, and she replies, "2 minutes 10 seconds," and then in the next scene, he asks again, and she says, "3 minutes 30 seconds. ".... the timer went up, lol 😆!?!? ruclips.net/video/P6oyiDqrDrg/видео.htmlsi=gabmvL9MGbkvBE0e
Picard: "we are on scientific, peaceful missi.." Riker: "fire Phasers on full with a simultaneously spread of Torpedos!" Picard: "yes..i was about to day that we are on a pea.." Riker: "Fire Everything!!“ 🤭
Remembering that the Galaxy Class is not a military ship, now imagine that if this Galaxy Class ship had torpedo launchers on the saucer, using modular decks to store torpedoes.
@@drawingdead9025 Five thousand, which the Klingons thought incredulous. As a defense and resupply station, many of these would be transferred to Stafleet vessels in the area stopping over for repairs and resupply.
Ich kann mich den beiden Kommentaren bezüglich der Größe der Torpedovorräte und deren möglicher Ergenzung zwischen den Episoden nur anschließen. Dennoch war es sehr interessant zu erfahren, wieviele Torpedoabschüsse wir von der Enterprise D insgesamt sehen konnten. Danke dafür! 👍
Naja du musst bedenken, dass die der Enterprise auch ohne Schwierigkeiten, auf einer Sternenbasis oder so, nachgefüllt werden können. Auf der Voyager war das etwas schwieriger. Trotzdem gute Arbeit!
Oh, Voyager. That adds another layer to the issue at hand. 🚀 I bet the crew had a lot of extra time to slowly and carefully build more torpedoes. 😑😴 ➡️ 🛠️ They could have built a factory or workshop just for doing this, where back home they would need to get permission, only to be told to just pick up some more torpedoes when they'd dock at a starbase. 🙁 Voyager could have spent days or even weeks building and assembling and testing just one torpedo, while they were flying through a region of space with nothing interesting. 🛢️ Only to then have some new enemy come up on them, And the Captain order " Fire!" And watch it get exploded in just a handful of f seconds! 💥 😞
Nope! Missing one. The scene at 3:34, S06E27 - "Descent, Part II" is only counted as 1 torpedo when it should be 2. Memory Alpha confirms this if you look up "Crusher returns fire with a pair of photon torpedoes, which do no damage to their vessel."
0:30 That should count as 5 torpedoes. It's not one MIRV torpedo split into 5 warhead as it might looked like, but actually 5 torpedo launched as a cluster and started to guidance independently after launching.
102 total isn’t bad the Galaxy class has a magazine of 500 Photon torpedoes the Venture refit of the Galaxy keeps the 500 Photons and adds the ability for the ship to fire Quantum Torpedoes it 120 torpedo magazine for them that’s not counting the new phaser strips or reinforced Shields with hull armor
How many Photon/Quantum did the Enterprise E carry I wonder? Because said they used up ALL of them against the Scimitar! Granted many of them missed because they couldn’t target a cloaked ship.
@@demariushenderson1802 The only cannon source i know of for the torpedo load for the Enterprise E is from Startrek Bridge Commander (where you command a Sovereign eventually) and thats 200 Photons and 80 Quantum's i dont think they launched all of the torps especially not the Quantum's in the fight with the Scimitar
I would love to see a starship that fires 1,000 photon torpedoes all at once. The ship would also have 500 phaser ports also firing all at once. The ship would have 10 layers of armor plating as well as 25 layers of shielding. Now that would be a battleship.
Uh.. with a replicator. I woild imagine such a long range ship would also have an antimatter generator like the Galaxy class. You can replicate almost anything-it’s just a question of your matter-energy budget.
I like TOS first, TNG second but I've always loved TNG's liberal and FREQUENT use of photon torpedoes. The scene where they're firing multiple aft torpedoes(to no avail) at a pursuing Borg cube has always stuck in my mind, Maybe DS9 combined with the Defiant could give the Enterprise a run for it's money as far as total torpedo launches?
The Enterprise D carried 250 torpedoes during peace. The ship is enormous. In times of war a Galaxy Class could carry thousands if necessary. However, there is probably a limit to the number of torpedoes in the ready magazine. After that number is expended, cross-supply would be required.
So...seeing as even WW1 dreadnoughts stocked on average 200 rounds per gun this seems fairly realistic. Either they have significant magazine space or they can replicate the things.
It's not as bad given the fact they are close to Federation space with multiple starbases and outposts. I think the Galaxy class can hold more than most ships.
...and they can replicate them on-board, as long as the buzzard scopes, can collect hydrogen/deuterium for the replicators, though it isn't very efficient. Thus they replenished most stuff from bases, were applicable. IIRC, there were only some elements like Dilithium that could not be replicated. The Galaxy-Class was pretty much designed to function without a supply line for very long periods of time.
So, let's call the actual compliment of torpedoes aboard the Enterprise-D at 210 torpedoes in the shared main magazine and forty probes of various types, I believe there is 10 types of probes according to establish canon, so let's say 4 of each type at the ready. Know given the sheer size of the Galaxy class in terms of number of cargo bays and overall dimensions, it's entire possible that there are at least a reasonable number of unassembled torpedoes (casing, warheads and other components) say fifty to sixty in storage that can be made viable by a dedicated tactical/engineering team in short order say 36-48 hours or can be transferred to other starships to restock in a combat situation. If anyone says they are just created by an industrial replicator, you can jump right out a dammed airlock.
Seeing as at see re supply of Toledos has been a thing since ww 2 doing in federation space in not a stretch. Also there is an anti matter generator in the blue prints
A couple things. First, not quite the same as the Voyager one since the Enterprise had the ability to go and resupply (as others have already said). Second, you should have had Data at the end fist pumping from Generations after they destroyed the Bird of Prey to end the video.
I wouldn’t. It is generally presented that they are also a defense force aside from their exploratory, scientific, and diplomatic duties. Yes, starfleet is the military of the federation. They are still prepared and trained to fight, most starfleet personnel have a firearm and are expected to be proficient. Also, most starfleet vessels are well armed and defended for their size and intended role. As well they should be. We saw the results of the enterprise b leaving space dock without adequately equipped weapons and basic systems. They have to be ready for anything. Additionally, from the time the first truly deep space vessel (nx01) left earth they found out fast the necessity of having well armed starships.
Oh, yes! And, don't forget about the problematic nature of storing something that contains antimatter on the inside. (Or even something that simply has components that are highly radioactive.) Unlike the Dominion, the Federation cannot shape and mold neutronium like plastic or metal. 🍾🛢️☣️ So, every minute that s photon torpedo is kept in storage, it has to have internal battery power going to generate a magnetic field powerful enough to keep the ordinance from touching the side of the storage tank . ☢️🌐 🔋 If a photon torpedo is left sitting in the munitions center for too long without being used and its battery runs down ... 💥
So, what does this video prove?? It's been said,in one episode,that Enterprise packs a compliment of 350 torpedoes! Worf was delighted by that fact!😁 By that,the Enterprise only exhausted one third of it's torpedoes stock!
This doesn’t work so well like the others are writing allready. Voyager video was funny when it only have 38 photons but somewhere out of nowhere it manages fire more and more. Enterprise d is different animal all together and also can supply more if some odd reason the crew manages to fire all of the 250 photons out...
People doing torpedo log with silly music over it for DS9 and TNG are entirely missing the point of the Voyager video. With Voyager they started with 38 torpedoes and were all "Oh noes, we can't replenish our supply!!" at the start. And then around season 4 the writers just said "fuck it" and had Voyager fighting new aliens every 3rd episode and spamming their 'limited supply' of torpedoes until they'd used 80+ of their original 38. Picard started with 250 and could replenish and Sisko had an entire station full of the things.
The casings and components aren't the issue, it's getting the antimatter for the warheads without taking it from the main reactors fuel. This seems to be solved by the 2370's though. Possibly the antimatter generator tech was then efficient enough to create it for warheads. Voyager had 38 torpedo's initially (although I don't think that is representative for the class) and fired well over 100 over the course of their journey.
I believe they do have a limited capacity to manufacture some torpedoes when necessary. Of course, they would have to take some antimatter from the ship’s antimatter storage pods that are normally used to fuel the warp drive to arm the warheads. Of course, it would usually be simpler and easier to simply rearm and replenish at the next starbase layover in space dock.
Not only could they restock all the time since this isn’t Voyager, they started out with 250!
The show still fell down on its own premise, the pilot has the ship arriving at the very fringes of know space, well outside of the federation. Far point station should be around 2700-3000 lightyears from earth and the ships maximum speed means it should be a several year journey. Suggesting that it was built near by rather than back in the Sol system.
Despite this the grew makes it back to earth approximately once a season on average.
It should have been far more like Voyager from the outset but they didn't commit.
@@DrewLSsix it was never meant to be Voyager just because they where far away from Federation space, this was nowhere near voyager. Also they only go to earth twice, once was for the Borg invasion in the best of both worlds season 3-4
And there were at least a couple of times that they were docked at support stations.
@@scpguy1381 they went back to earth during season 1 or 2 when those parasites took over those 3 admirals as well
What if they encounter a UFO ?
They go to starbases in several episodes though, where they likely restock
Even if they didn’t - they’re much larger than Voyager. Over a 1000 people on board compared to 150-200 on Voyager. So it’s not hard to believe that the D would have a good sized compliment of torpedoes on board.
And by the 2370's it seems that ships have gotten the capability to replace their own photon torpedo's. Maybe antimatter generator tech had gotten more efficient enough for that.
@@steveleeart Photon Torpedo compliment for a Galaxy-class starship is around 250.
I think it was actually stated in canon once that the torpedo compliment on a Galaxy class, Pre-Venture refit(which added phasers to the nacelles and a rear facing saucer launcher in the seperation plane that had 75 torpedoes of its own), was 275 photon torpedoes.
They have 255 torps onboard.
"This isn't a ship of war. It's a ship of peace."
Guinan - Yesterday's Enterprise
"Ah! We come in peace, shoot to kill, shoot to kill, shoot to kill; we come in peace, shoot to kill, shoot to kill, men."
@@Torgo1001 I kid you not- that was the first thought that crossed my mind.
The tech manual says the Galaxy carries 250 photons, a few of which may be replaced with probes depending on the mission
They probably top off inventory every time they visit a starbase. But they have the ability to manufacture more photon torps on the ship. They even manufacture advanced versions (tricobalt torps, quantum torps, chroniton torps, transphasic torps) in the novels.
@@pwnmeisterage Hell yeah!
also miscounts as the "full spread shot" particularly the stock footage from 0:26 fires 5 shots but the "counter" says 6.
Is it possible to replicate a photon torpedo?
@@steveperuski5547 I don't think one can replicate a whole torpedo. But one can replicate many parts, and manufacture others. Photons are not that advanced. The only component that is an expendable durable is the anti-matter for the warhead.
In the early seasons, Worf was always eager to fire weapons.
Constantly leaping over the railing and shouting things like "I recommend we attack! With all weapons! We must inflict maximum damage! Now!"
In the later seasons, Worf seemed reluctant to fire weapons.
He followed his orders slowly, almost apathetically. As if he was disinterested and bothered by being told to press so many buttons.
Almost like the difference between a new crew member full of piss and vinegar to one that was seasoned and disgruntled.
then in ds9 he 'killed' a bunch of 'civilians'
We're on a mission of peaceful- FIRE EVERYTHING!!!!!!
"we come in peace" "shoot to kill, shoot to kill"
What made the Voyager video so funny was Tuvok's declaration that they had only 38 torpedoes, and no way to get more.
In retrospect, they should have sent a Galaxy class to the Delta quadrant. It has about 250 torpedos and a crew of about 1000. They wrote themselves into a corner with the smaller Voyager. Also the extras shown on the show (which in one episode even included the current king of jordan) surpassed the supposed crew of about 150 people by far.
@@paulanerruhrpott6188 TBF I think the premise was a small but long range ship surviving in the Delta Quadrant. While I do love the show, I think that part didn't pan out as well as it should have
They fixed that when they found in a few episodes trade agreements to replenish their torpedoes "IE make new ones" and the borg helped with that manufacturing process too... remember Intrepid class ships are not warships they are science vessels and Voyager did not even have the isometric lab till 7 of 9 suggested it and got it built that room was empty Voyager was highly advanced prototype vessel even had new Phaser Compression rifles they used martial found in the delta quadrant too build new stuff... and after Voyagers return the isometric lab was made standard on all Intrepid class ships, Galaxy class vessels added one too because you know it made sense too have a lab station dedicated too only planetary research and long range sensors... especially on science vessels and front line ships like the Galaxy class
You just replicate them. /s
@@calvinnickel9995 Well, yes. Just in the beginning they didn't have the resources to do so, hence the statement that they had no way to replace them. They also severely rationed replicator use to preserve resource reserves. It was poor writing though to never include them overcoming the resource restrictions on screen. Once they found/secured enough deuterium they'd have the energy reserves to make more torpedoes either by replicating components or generating antimatter. Also, given that a chunk of the crew were Maquis, who likely had limited weapons access, it's only logical that they'd know how to come up with methods for making their own torpedoes.
That's pretty good over 7 seasons and one movie considering the ship carries a compliment of 250 photon torpedoes.
when I told my gf the enterprise D actually held a total of 250 torpedoes she pulled down my pant and rubbed my man parts/
I'd heard that the visual effects for photon torpedoes post $5000 per shot, whereas phasers cost $3000 per shot. Thus Paramount's preference for using phasers.
A full spead of torpedos can be 10 fired from a single launcher from a galaxy class best example is in the movie generations when riker ordered a spread on the bird of prey clocking with its shields down it looked like 1 torpedo but in reality there were 10 all huddled together and can look exactly like a single torpedo so its really hard to say how many the enterprise actually fired during its service but I like this compilation! Its pretty cool!
What does your girlfriend think of that analysis?
@@artonline01 she loves it thats why she married me for being so thorough
I don't think that's the case,they had budgetary constraints for the movie so the fx team just done the 1 photon torpedo when the dialogue for riker said "a spread that's also why the bop exploding is stock footage from the undiscovered country.
@mazzmo77 @mazzmo77 That's entirely possible, too. The movie was already past their budget, so they had to save money somewhere. I'm simply referring to the guides and blueprints of the Galaxy class starship for a canonical reason why we we saw one torpedo instead of multiple fired at the bird of prey in Generations when Riker said "Mr Worf prepare a spread of photon torpedos we have to hit them the instant they begin to cloak. We get one shot at this target, their primary reactor." We have seen in the series in the early seasons when the enterprise D fires a spread it comes out as 1 torpedo and then spreads into several. The best episode that comes to mind we see this in is Yesterday's Enterprise in season 3, and theres a few more I can't think off the top of my head. It could just be a whoopsie mistake they never fixed. Wouldn't be the first one and definitely not the last, Like in the Wrath of Kahn when the Enterprise is trying to escape Reliant in Mutara Nebula and they only had 4 minutes to warp out of the nebula. At one point, kirk asks savak Time from my mark, and she replies, "2 minutes 10 seconds," and then in the next scene, he asks again, and she says, "3 minutes 30 seconds. ".... the timer went up, lol 😆!?!? ruclips.net/video/P6oyiDqrDrg/видео.htmlsi=gabmvL9MGbkvBE0e
i never noticed that😊@@rikashya
Picard: "we are on scientific, peaceful missi.."
Riker: "fire Phasers on full with a simultaneously spread of Torpedos!"
Picard: "yes..i was about to day that we are on a pea.."
Riker: "Fire Everything!!“ 🤭
Remembering that the Galaxy Class is not a military ship, now imagine that if this Galaxy Class ship had torpedo launchers on the saucer, using modular decks to store torpedoes.
Dispersal Pattern Sierra is my favorite! 😄
They can reload at every space station
Galaxy Class is a space station!
Or maybe there are still supply/cargo ships that can do the job as well.
Now I want to see ds9's torpedo count
Didn't Sisko say he had 3000 ready to go at one point?
@@drawingdead9025 Five thousand, which the Klingons thought incredulous. As a defense and resupply station, many of these would be transferred to Stafleet vessels in the area stopping over for repairs and resupply.
@Ministry Of Holiness It's a great call back to the pilot, only this time it flips it on its head.
A billion kajillion lol...and that didn't count the ones on Defiant plus quantum torpedoes 😉
Here ya go... ruclips.net/video/Eqp2DOOWFqw/видео.html
The can can song here, makes the video comedic 😂
You forgot Descent Part I. The Enterprise fired two shots of Photon Torpedoes but missed as the Borg ship disappeared.
Other than the goofy circus music this was a really cool video. Thank you for posting.
A ship that size can have enough resources to replicate torpedos
This is funny cause the enterprise can carry a maximum of 250 photon torpedoes
I have no idea why the music makes it so funny
Rookie numbers!
- Voyager
Photo Torpedo 23 and 24..... you need more of them!
I mean that's like a trivial ammo load for such an enourmous ship. Cool to see exactly how many they 'canonically' fired though
Wow. Throughout their entire seven to eight year run they’d still have around 100 some odd torpedoes to spare.
They also do a TON of diagnostics! 😂
102 torpedoes down 148 left to..
oh wait...
*Enterprise go boom*
Take that, Voyager!
Ich kann mich den beiden Kommentaren bezüglich der Größe der Torpedovorräte und deren möglicher Ergenzung zwischen den Episoden nur anschließen. Dennoch war es sehr interessant zu erfahren, wieviele Torpedoabschüsse wir von der Enterprise D insgesamt sehen konnten. Danke dafür! 👍
Great video. Made me laugh.
Enterprise:"Klingon vessel, for the last time the BBQ has been cancelled! But since you insist, you can have this one on the house"
Naja du musst bedenken, dass die der Enterprise auch ohne Schwierigkeiten, auf einer Sternenbasis oder so, nachgefüllt werden können. Auf der Voyager war das etwas schwieriger.
Trotzdem gute Arbeit!
Oh, Voyager. That adds another layer to the issue at hand. 🚀
I bet the crew had a lot of extra time to slowly and carefully build more torpedoes. 😑😴 ➡️ 🛠️
They could have built a factory or workshop just for doing this, where back home they would need to get permission, only to be told to just pick up some more torpedoes when they'd dock at a starbase. 🙁
Voyager could have spent days or even weeks building and assembling and testing just one torpedo, while they were flying through a region of space with nothing interesting. 🛢️
Only to then have some new enemy come up on them, And the Captain order " Fire!"
And watch it get exploded in just a handful of f seconds! 💥 😞
There’s one thing that you forgot season three of picard
Forgot all the photons use in the show Picard
Nope! Missing one. The scene at 3:34, S06E27 - "Descent, Part II" is only counted as 1 torpedo when it should be 2. Memory Alpha confirms this if you look up "Crusher returns fire with a pair of photon torpedoes, which do no damage to their vessel."
everybody wondering how many torpedos enterprise abd voyager have, while im eating popcorn from my replicator
Gotta love the recycled footage of the Bird of Prey destroyed at the end of the montage
Can we get a recount, now that we know that the Enterprise D was reactivated in Picard?
This video could use with an update with Crusher at tactical against the super cube
Galaxy class rocked!
Set to detonate on impact! Yes isn't that the point
They can manufacture warp capable shuttlecraft, torpedoes are probably pretty easy to build between battles.
I like Picard when he says fire it’s FAA!!!
Ich habe so im hundertzehner Bereich geschätzt. Zwischen 100 und 110 zehn und mich bei 108 festgelegt...es waren 102
0:30
That should count as 5 torpedoes. It's not one MIRV torpedo split into 5 warhead as it might looked like, but actually 5 torpedo launched as a cluster and started to guidance independently after launching.
They can build torpedoes on their own. They have replicators. I'm sure they have ways of getting more anti-matter
Time to add the ones shot from the Enterprise D in Star Trek Picard.
Those were fired by the USS Syracuse secondary hull though.
102 total isn’t bad the Galaxy class has a magazine of 500 Photon torpedoes the Venture refit of the Galaxy keeps the 500 Photons and adds the ability for the ship to fire Quantum Torpedoes it 120 torpedo magazine for them that’s not counting the new phaser strips or reinforced Shields with hull armor
Bit nerdy
@@juicybear7696 kettle calling the coffee black aint it?
@@juicybear7696 not at all. Everything they said is true in canon.
How many Photon/Quantum did the Enterprise E carry I wonder? Because said they used up ALL of them against the Scimitar! Granted many of them missed because they couldn’t target a cloaked ship.
@@demariushenderson1802 The only cannon source i know of for the torpedo load for the Enterprise E is from Startrek Bridge Commander (where you command a Sovereign eventually) and thats 200 Photons and 80 Quantum's i dont think they launched all of the torps especially not the Quantum's in the fight with the Scimitar
Torpedoemania ... !!
BOOM-BOOM TIME
... 😄 ...
I would love to see a starship that fires 1,000 photon torpedoes all at once.
The ship would also have 500 phaser ports also firing all at once.
The ship would have 10 layers of armor plating as well as 25 layers of shielding.
Now that would be a battleship.
There was a episode on DS9 where the station got a upgraded load out of 5,000 torpedoes and phaser inplacements too.
@@walterhicksiii3525
I remember that one. O'Brian put that on to fight against the Klingons.
Amazing how many torpedoes you can fire when you can top back off at any Federation Starbase.
Remind me of voyager had a full complement of torpedoes and magically restocked after every episode how would they have replicated torpedoes
Uh.. with a replicator.
I woild imagine such a long range ship would also have an antimatter generator like the Galaxy class.
You can replicate almost anything-it’s just a question of your matter-energy budget.
102 Torpedos das sind schon File auch wen ein Schiff der Galaxie Klasse davon 250 hat
I like TOS first, TNG second but I've always loved TNG's liberal and FREQUENT use of photon torpedoes. The scene where they're firing multiple aft torpedoes(to no avail) at a pursuing Borg cube has always stuck in my mind,
Maybe DS9 combined with the Defiant could give the Enterprise a run for it's money as far as total torpedo launches?
Never mind.. just found that vid!
They’re infinity torpedos. They never run out, just like Roddenberry’s wife.
idk about Photon torps but those Quantums sure did mess up that Borg ship.
The Enterprise D carried 250 torpedoes during peace. The ship is enormous. In times of war a Galaxy Class could carry thousands if necessary. However, there is probably a limit to the number of torpedoes in the ready magazine. After that number is expended, cross-supply would be required.
So...seeing as even WW1 dreadnoughts stocked on average 200 rounds per gun this seems fairly realistic. Either they have significant magazine space or they can replicate the things.
3:48 What happened to that torpedo that deviated and flew away like a guided missile?
It's not as bad given the fact they are close to Federation space with multiple starbases and outposts. I think the Galaxy class can hold more than most ships.
250 i think
A galaxy class starship has 112 torpedo in it compliment
...and they can replicate them on-board, as long as the buzzard scopes, can collect hydrogen/deuterium for the replicators, though it isn't very efficient.
Thus they replenished most stuff from bases, were applicable. IIRC, there were only some elements like Dilithium that could not be replicated. The Galaxy-Class was pretty much designed to function without a supply line for very long periods of time.
Yeah it's practically a mobile star base. With enough passenger and storage space to establish an entire new colony if need be.
@2:38 you're welcome.
Also they could fire torpedoes 10 at a time out of each torpedo tube
So, let's call the actual compliment of torpedoes aboard the Enterprise-D at 210 torpedoes in the shared main magazine and forty probes of various types, I believe there is 10 types of probes according to establish canon, so let's say 4 of each type at the ready. Know given the sheer size of the Galaxy class in terms of number of cargo bays and overall dimensions, it's entire possible that there are at least a reasonable number of unassembled torpedoes (casing, warheads and other components) say fifty to sixty in storage that can be made viable by a dedicated tactical/engineering team in short order say 36-48 hours or can be transferred to other starships to restock in a combat situation. If anyone says they are just created by an industrial replicator, you can jump right out a dammed airlock.
On going mission to find new worlds and civilizations then blow them up.
Ha... you missed one
According to the next generation technical manual standard load out for galaxy class ships was 275 photon torpedoes
I think that they actually said that same number on screen once.
Seeing as at see re supply of Toledos has been a thing since ww 2 doing in federation space in not a stretch. Also there is an anti matter generator in the blue prints
Fire💥💯👍
Quantum torpedos now
D never had quantum torps
And transphasic in the novels specifically to slice open Borg cubes.
@@Zhortac i wanted him to do an episode about quantum torpedos
Die Music xD
What about Voyager?
Es fehlte die Folge mit der Enterprise C, in der alternativen Zeitlinie. Da wurden auch Photonentorpedos abgefeuet.
Wieso sollten die auch Zählen?Es war ne alternative Zeitlinie die nie entstanden ist
Thats what i thought they had at least 200 on board
10k mt of weapons fired in 7 seasons and a movie. She never used her base load of torps. Now I want to see the E plus defiant.
And enterprise was supposed to be a ship of peace and exploring.. 🤣🤣🤣
Jet propulsion engine
A couple things. First, not quite the same as the Voyager one since the Enterprise had the ability to go and resupply (as others have already said). Second, you should have had Data at the end fist pumping from Generations after they destroyed the Bird of Prey to end the video.
They can make (quantum) torpedos with replicators.
That has never been established in canon.
Oh, that Bird of explosion footage....
If you know, you know.
Well they never fired their entire stock of torpedoes throughout the entire series. Of course, they could resupply at a starbase.
It's a Galaxy class...they had plenty of reserves...lol. This isn't Voyager.
Bro they have 250 fully stocked
RIP The best racks in stNG
Assuming you mean the Enterprise D, yes, she did have "ample" nacelles.
How can anyone possibly claim that Starfleet isn't the military?
I wouldn’t. It is generally presented that they are also a defense force aside from their exploratory, scientific, and diplomatic duties. Yes, starfleet is the military of the federation. They are still prepared and trained to fight, most starfleet personnel have a firearm and are expected to be proficient. Also, most starfleet vessels are well armed and defended for their size and intended role. As well they should be. We saw the results of the enterprise b leaving space dock without adequately equipped weapons and basic systems. They have to be ready for anything. Additionally, from the time the first truly deep space vessel (nx01) left earth they found out fast the necessity of having well armed starships.
The baground music should be replaced with original sound track.
Oh, yes!
And, don't forget about the problematic nature of storing something that contains antimatter on the inside. (Or even something that simply has components that are highly radioactive.)
Unlike the Dominion, the Federation cannot shape and mold neutronium like plastic or metal. 🍾🛢️☣️
So, every minute that s photon torpedo is kept in storage, it has to have internal battery power going to generate a magnetic field powerful enough to keep the ordinance from touching the side of the storage tank . ☢️🌐 🔋
If a photon torpedo is left sitting in the munitions center for too long without being used and its battery runs down ...
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LMAO
So, what does this video prove??
It's been said,in one episode,that Enterprise packs a compliment of 350 torpedoes! Worf was delighted by that fact!😁
By that,the Enterprise only exhausted one third of it's torpedoes stock!
Yawwnn
This doesn’t work so well like the others are writing allready. Voyager video was funny when it only have 38 photons but somewhere out of nowhere it manages fire more and more. Enterprise d is different animal all together and also can supply more if some odd reason the crew manages to fire all of the 250 photons out...
People doing torpedo log with silly music over it for DS9 and TNG are entirely missing the point of the Voyager video.
With Voyager they started with 38 torpedoes and were all "Oh noes, we can't replenish our supply!!" at the start. And then around season 4 the writers just said "fuck it" and had Voyager fighting new aliens every 3rd episode and spamming their 'limited supply' of torpedoes until they'd used 80+ of their original 38.
Picard started with 250 and could replenish and Sisko had an entire station full of the things.
Prob for copyright reasons but that stupid circus music was so annoying
Pointless nonsense.
This is why i cant watch old star trek, the CGI is god awful lol.
That ridiculous music ruins it
I’m sure they can remanufacture their own torpedoes as needed, they do have replicator technology after all. I miss lursa and betor 🥲
The casings and components aren't the issue, it's getting the antimatter for the warheads without taking it from the main reactors fuel. This seems to be solved by the 2370's though. Possibly the antimatter generator tech was then efficient enough to create it for warheads. Voyager had 38 torpedo's initially (although I don't think that is representative for the class) and fired well over 100 over the course of their journey.
@@02ujtb00626 Exactly.
I believe they do have a limited capacity to manufacture some torpedoes when necessary. Of course, they would have to take some antimatter from the ship’s antimatter storage pods that are normally used to fuel the warp drive to arm the warheads. Of course, it would usually be simpler and easier to simply rearm and replenish at the next starbase layover in space dock.
Need to add Season 3 of Picard now.