Correction: I mentioned the ship had a QED, implying it has both a snare and a quantum dampener. I was actually referring to the quantum dampener, as that’s what the Guardian comes equipped with. Sorry for any confusion!
Correction: The Guardian QI does not have a QED. It has a Quantum Dampener (QDMP). It's not the same thing. QED can snare people out of quantum, while quantum dampener can only prevent them from jumping away. This ship is not a replacement/improvement for the Mantis.
From what I've heard, QED is the combination of QID and QDMP. QID only snares, and QDMP only dampens. No ship currently has the QID, so there's no example.
Thank you for pointing that out. You’re absolutely right about the Guardian QI-it has a Quantum Dampener, not a QED. My apologies for any confusion. While it’s true that it doesn’t function as a direct replacement due to the lack of a snare, our approach to pirating often involves camping at a strategic location rather than snaring ships in transit. We deploy the dampener when targets come within range, and in our experience, this tactic has been quite effective. It’s not a direct substitute for the Mantis, but it has worked well for our operations. Thanks again for the correction!
I remember when everyone was complaining about the Corsair being too strong. "Too many pilot guns for such a tanky ship", "Too good at pirating", etc. Well, it got nerfed. Pretty badly. But I still absolutely love that ship, and I feel like, even if the Guardian gets a nerf, the Guardian lovers will still love it, too.
Are people complaining about the Guardian? It's not the best ship out there. I feel it is quiet balanced, tanky, maneuverable (to some extent, anything smaller can do circles around it if they know what they are doing), but has low dps. I hope they don't just kill it :P I see so many less corsair flying around now!
Thanks man! I'll try my best to be consistent! And I agree this format might be better for you guys than a full squadron battle! Thanks for the feedback! I appreciate it!
I used to have it at 100m so I could hunt players on the ground but I've always assumed it automatically adjusts when you lock a target. Might be wrong though..
Have they changed weapon stats for cannons or are projectile speeds still slow on those. Just feels that if you had a canon with high alpha and high projectile speed it might be worth the drop in fire rate.
I have been using Omniskies for PVE bounties (about 8h worth of bounty hunting) and they have felt the best out of the guns I tried so far (M7A, and Attrition 5). They just felt right. Also you can get away with running only 3 power to weapons as you only lose 1 shot in the capacitor. Huge for getting that quantum dampener online with the steep engine power requirements.
I’ve been running this setup in Arena Commander, but I want to note that I’m not entirely convinced it’s the best loadout-it just seemed right at the time. Here’s what I’ve been using: • Main Guns: CF 557 • Coolers: Nightfall Stealth A • Shield: Umbra Stealth A • Powerplants: 2 Lumacore Stealth A • Quantum Drive: Spicule Stealth A This setup may perform differently in a live environment, especially considering the variations in what’s available! Hope this helped!
Hey Bud! In order to change the PIP size in Star Citizen, you’ll want to use the Gunnery UI Magnification Toggle. Here’s how you can set it up: 1. Go to the ‘Options’ menu and open ‘Keybindings’. 2. Navigate to the ‘Vehicle Weapons’ section. 3. Look for the ‘Gunnery UI Magnification Toggle’ setting. 4. Assign a key of your choice to this toggle. Once done, you can use the assigned key to switch between PIP sizes while playing. Hope this helps! :)
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So right now it's competitive but it should (or will) lose 30% of the HP in the future? Why?
It’s pretty typical of CIG to release a ship with stats that they likely didn’t intend, just to boost sales, and then adjust it later to what they initially envisioned. Despite "MY" anticipated 30% reduction in the health pool, I still believe the ship will remain competitive and be a valuable asset to have in the hangar! Hope that clarify things bud :)
I wonder if I can take a out Guardian QI with a Mirai Fury if I put the Fury in my Reclaimer in case I get jumped by a Guardian QI while I'm salvaging in my Reclaimer.
You can definitely do shred a Qi with a fury. Snub fighters vs heavy fighters will always be a super tough matchup. I've killed a few furies with that ion before :P but its so incredibly tough it can only be considered luck xD
@@spatialmonkeysno apologies needed, if the ship deserves a nerf, then it should absolutely get one.. and it won't be because of this one video. Thanks for the vid.. nice work.
I really like this ship a lot and I think it’s balance pretty well to be honest cause you have to regulate your power and have the right components I hesitated on getting the ship and I melted my F8 for it, but I knew the CIG is going to nerd fit eventually cause all people are gonna do is complain about it
It is a great ship for sure, and very fun to fly! I don't see many complaining. The ship is killable. It's not as bad as the f7a! Just needs a tiny hp nerf (:
Idk… I play pve and have an Ion and a Firebird. Both got nerfed into the ground (be it usability or profitability). Now I’m scared to buy anything rn… Do you think either of the guardian is worth it in pve?
If we’re discussing bounty hunting, the Guardian should perform quite well. For other PvE loops, I’m not as experienced, so I can’t say for certain. However, I’ve heard the Ion is getting its old gun back, which should be considered a great buff to its capabilities. As for the Guardian, it’s likely to receive a nerf to its health pool soon. You might consider melting the Ion to try out the Guardian, and if the Ion improves after its update, you could always switch back. Hope this helps :)
Would you mind posting the outcomes and the videos of your fights? If you have any like it would be awesome to see you fighting against all the ships you mentioned @spatialmonkey
I won one out of six fights against the Guardian using the F8. With the F7A, I won three of my matchups against the Guardian and also secured three victories when flying the Guardian against the F7A. The matchups between the Gladius and the Guardian were evenly split at 50/50, as were the fights between the Hurricane and the Guardian. The Scorpious, however, lost every fight against the Guardian regardless of the pilot. I believe the Vanguard and Ares wouldn't stand a chance either. I hope this clarifies what you meant?
I admit, I can rush things and make mistakes sometimes. I was indeed referring to the dampener, not the snare. I’ll add a note at the beginning of the video to clarify this mistake. Thank you for your feedback bud! I appreciate all criticism!
i agree its hits ok hard i have one an its not so power full problem is power is way to low on that ship you are better of in f8c unless you do bunker mission in it too than the Guardian is perfect also becouse it have a bed an everything you need to stey out for longer time..
Will power isn't a problem currently. I manage to max everything out, power to engines, power to shields and power to guns if you switch off your cooler and health thingy in your mfd's. I really beleive after all the testing, its better than the F8c, when it comes to PVP stuff! I honestly have very little time when it comes to the PVE scene!
Firebird is annoying against everything! But I hope thats the case. I still feel they were most likely nerf the hp! I agree with you! It's definitely a support ship!
CIG will WITHOUT A DOUBT nerf this ship, because of course they will, now since the whole community has seemingly accepted that CIG will release a ship and then nerf it later after they made sales thus the question is what exactly will be nerfed ? I bet the hp will be and I also bet the QI will see a bigger nerf than the standard because they're a bit too similar and the QI is the obvious choice
Its not that op to need a nerf now! maybe next patch when cig gets everyone to buy it. But I believe its in is pretty good place at the moment. Might just need some minor tuning! A small hp nerf! or buff :P
You think the vanguard is better? I really haven't fought really good pilots flying it yet. But I'll have to give it a try! I do love the vanguard series!
@@harbringerf9416 I kinda got the impression you were suggesting that shields drop quickly enough for distortions to be effective. I haven’t encountered many distortion players recently, but hopefully, this change makes them more viable. I want my sentinel to shine again! Thanks for the clarification bud!
Get rid of MM and the guardian will suck against light fighters. MM is just a DPS shoot out. If they nerf the HP/armour (=less weight) they have to make it more nimble otherwise what's the point of the cool ass engines
Correction: I mentioned the ship had a QED, implying it has both a snare and a quantum dampener. I was actually referring to the quantum dampener, as that’s what the Guardian comes equipped with. Sorry for any confusion!
Correction: The Guardian QI does not have a QED. It has a Quantum Dampener (QDMP). It's not the same thing. QED can snare people out of quantum, while quantum dampener can only prevent them from jumping away. This ship is not a replacement/improvement for the Mantis.
From what I've heard, QED is the combination of QID and QDMP. QID only snares, and QDMP only dampens. No ship currently has the QID, so there's no example.
Thank you for pointing that out. You’re absolutely right about the Guardian QI-it has a Quantum Dampener, not a QED. My apologies for any confusion. While it’s true that it doesn’t function as a direct replacement due to the lack of a snare, our approach to pirating often involves camping at a strategic location rather than snaring ships in transit. We deploy the dampener when targets come within range, and in our experience, this tactic has been quite effective. It’s not a direct substitute for the Mantis, but it has worked well for our operations. Thanks again for the correction!
I remember when everyone was complaining about the Corsair being too strong. "Too many pilot guns for such a tanky ship", "Too good at pirating", etc. Well, it got nerfed. Pretty badly. But I still absolutely love that ship, and I feel like, even if the Guardian gets a nerf, the Guardian lovers will still love it, too.
Are people complaining about the Guardian? It's not the best ship out there. I feel it is quiet balanced, tanky, maneuverable (to some extent, anything smaller can do circles around it if they know what they are doing), but has low dps. I hope they don't just kill it :P I see so many less corsair flying around now!
how much of a difference does the extra maneuvering from the base make in the matchups?
Around 2.5% numerically which looks small! But you can definitely feel the difference!
I really enjoyed this video! I hope to see you make more similar videos for other new and old combat oriented ships.
Thanks man! I'll try my best to be consistent! And I agree this format might be better for you guys than a full squadron battle! Thanks for the feedback! I appreciate it!
It's not OP, just well balanced, actually in my mind ...
I like your style of explanation. I will leave a like and subscribe!
I completely agree its not OP. But I just have a feeling Cig will still nerf it :P Thanks for the support bud! I appreciate the kind words!
what distance do you set your convergance too out of curiosity?
I used to have it at 100m so I could hunt players on the ground but I've always assumed it automatically adjusts when you lock a target. Might be wrong though..
Have they changed weapon stats for cannons or are projectile speeds still slow on those. Just feels that if you had a canon with high alpha and high projectile speed it might be worth the drop in fire rate.
No clue, I would check erukel. Haven't played with cannons this patch so my input would be pointless!
@ cheers for reply and thanks for sharing your experiences!
People are recommending Omnis for this reason. I agree, low time on target means you'd benefit from high burst dps.
@Cain3697 I'll definitely give it a try (:
I have been using Omniskies for PVE bounties (about 8h worth of bounty hunting) and they have felt the best out of the guns I tried so far (M7A, and Attrition 5). They just felt right. Also you can get away with running only 3 power to weapons as you only lose 1 shot in the capacitor. Huge for getting that quantum dampener online with the steep engine power requirements.
Mind sharing your component choices? I’m having difficulty dealing with the power management on this ship.
I’ve been running this setup in Arena Commander, but I want to note that I’m not entirely convinced it’s the best loadout-it just seemed right at the time. Here’s what I’ve been using:
• Main Guns: CF 557
• Coolers: Nightfall Stealth A
• Shield: Umbra Stealth A
• Powerplants: 2 Lumacore Stealth A
• Quantum Drive: Spicule Stealth A
This setup may perform differently in a live environment, especially considering the variations in what’s available! Hope this helped!
Hi Spatial!!! Great review!
Hey man!! it's been a while! Why aren't you in our org already? I appreciate the kind words :)
Nice video! thanks for the tests!!
You bet!
Can you pls give an option (settings) to make a pip more bigger?
Hey Bud! In order to change the PIP size in Star Citizen, you’ll want to use the Gunnery UI Magnification Toggle. Here’s how you can set it up:
1. Go to the ‘Options’ menu and open ‘Keybindings’.
2. Navigate to the ‘Vehicle Weapons’ section.
3. Look for the ‘Gunnery UI Magnification Toggle’ setting.
4. Assign a key of your choice to this toggle.
Once done, you can use the assigned key to switch between PIP sizes while playing. Hope this helps! :)
So right now it's competitive but it should (or will) lose 30% of the HP in the future? Why?
same reason the ion got nerfed into the ground. because content creators dont know either.
It’s pretty typical of CIG to release a ship with stats that they likely didn’t intend, just to boost sales, and then adjust it later to what they initially envisioned. Despite "MY" anticipated 30% reduction in the health pool, I still believe the ship will remain competitive and be a valuable asset to have in the hangar! Hope that clarify things bud :)
I wonder if I can take a out Guardian QI with a Mirai Fury if I put the Fury in my Reclaimer in case I get jumped by a Guardian QI while I'm salvaging in my Reclaimer.
You can definitely do shred a Qi with a fury. Snub fighters vs heavy fighters will always be a super tough matchup.
I've killed a few furies with that ion before :P but its so incredibly tough it can only be considered luck xD
dont post videos that ships are op then sig wil nerfe the living hell out of the ships
My apologies 😔😔
@@spatialmonkeys 😊 no worries. And happy holidays. 🎄
@stormlands happy holidays bud!
@@spatialmonkeysno apologies needed, if the ship deserves a nerf, then it should absolutely get one.. and it won't be because of this one video. Thanks for the vid.. nice work.
OP my ass!
No my ass is OP!
Qi has everything, utiltiy damage, handling and absolutely gorgeous
It is a great ship!
I really like this ship a lot and I think it’s balance pretty well to be honest cause you have to regulate your power and have the right components I hesitated on getting the ship and I melted my F8 for it, but I knew the CIG is going to nerd fit eventually cause all people are gonna do is complain about it
It is a great ship for sure, and very fun to fly! I don't see many complaining. The ship is killable. It's not as bad as the f7a! Just needs a tiny hp nerf (:
Any particular guns that are a best fit?
I like the CF 557's the most honestly!
I luv this ship. Makes our Polaris quite the cargo entrepreneur. Pretty damn Skippy in atmosphere as well.
I haven't tried it in atmo yet :P But it is a blast to fly!
Idk… I play pve and have an Ion and a Firebird. Both got nerfed into the ground (be it usability or profitability). Now I’m scared to buy anything rn…
Do you think either of the guardian is worth it in pve?
If we’re discussing bounty hunting, the Guardian should perform quite well. For other PvE loops, I’m not as experienced, so I can’t say for certain. However, I’ve heard the Ion is getting its old gun back, which should be considered a great buff to its capabilities. As for the Guardian, it’s likely to receive a nerf to its health pool soon. You might consider melting the Ion to try out the Guardian, and if the Ion improves after its update, you could always switch back. Hope this helps :)
Not tested against the Inferno?
I haven't honestly, but it won't stand a chance! 😔 The ares needs some cig love..
Informative Video! Can you please share which repeater you use? Have some nice holidays
CF 557 (: you too!
its more big..... its more FAT :P . Good video mate, thank you for such good content 😁
I prefer "thicc"
Great video thx
Appreciate the support!
Would you mind posting the outcomes and the videos of your fights? If you have any like it would be awesome to see you fighting against all the ships you mentioned @spatialmonkey
I won one out of six fights against the Guardian using the F8. With the F7A, I won three of my matchups against the Guardian and also secured three victories when flying the Guardian against the F7A. The matchups between the Gladius and the Guardian were evenly split at 50/50, as were the fights between the Hurricane and the Guardian. The Scorpious, however, lost every fight against the Guardian regardless of the pilot. I believe the Vanguard and Ares wouldn't stand a chance either. I hope this clarifies what you meant?
@ I’m stupid I meant to say, would you mind posting a videos?
@ thank you 🙏🏿 I’m not sure how I’ve never seen your channel before but glad I’m here
@damaddmann I'll share some stuff
i cant take the video serious if you are mistakingly confusing the QED and the QDMP.
I admit, I can rush things and make mistakes sometimes. I was indeed referring to the dampener, not the snare. I’ll add a note at the beginning of the video to clarify this mistake. Thank you for your feedback bud! I appreciate all criticism!
Getting back into after MM for first time… dear God…..
Tell me about it :P I've come to terms with it. Definitely a worse flight model that I enjoy way less than the previous one.
i agree its hits ok hard i have one an its not so power full problem is power is way to low on that ship you are better of in f8c unless you do bunker mission in it too than the Guardian is perfect also becouse it have a bed an everything you need to stey out for longer time..
Will power isn't a problem currently. I manage to max everything out, power to engines, power to shields and power to guns if you switch off your cooler and health thingy in your mfd's. I really beleive after all the testing, its better than the F8c, when it comes to PVP stuff! I honestly have very little time when it comes to the PVE scene!
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Nah doubt they nerf a fire bird would actually be that things worse enemy plus its large profile its more of a support ship if anything.
Firebird is annoying against everything! But I hope thats the case. I still feel they were most likely nerf the hp!
I agree with you! It's definitely a support ship!
That AI voiceover almost had me
:P its getting better! Still pretty rough around the ages though.
The ship is so cool and fun to fly
I agree 💯
For now!.. until the nerf 😅
@@sirAlexander_T it's coming xD
Beast🤯🤯
Where the hell are you dude.... Thanks for the support though!
CIG will WITHOUT A DOUBT nerf this ship, because of course they will, now since the whole community has seemingly accepted that CIG will release a ship and then nerf it later after they made sales thus the question is what exactly will be nerfed ? I bet the hp will be and I also bet the QI will see a bigger nerf than the standard because they're a bit too similar and the QI is the obvious choice
I mean it has to be hp nerf. Hopefully it is reasonable! 30 percent feels fair!
nerf in coming
I feel it !! :(
Nerfed
Its not that op to need a nerf now! maybe next patch when cig gets everyone to buy it. But I believe its in is pretty good place at the moment. Might just need some minor tuning! A small hp nerf! or buff :P
Hmm melt the scorp or harbinger for this lol
Very tough choice! If it were me, I would melt the Harbinger! but honestly, you should melt whatever you use less!
the Guardian is not that OP.. vanguard is more OP really.
You think the vanguard is better? I really haven't fought really good pilots flying it yet. But I'll have to give it a try! I do love the vanguard series!
f8c missing so many shots... that makes no sense.
He's throwing on purpose! So I can make this video 😅
We did some testing and the Guardian was soft against anything that shuts down the ship EMP or distortion.
That's pretty interesting, I'll have to give that a try!
@spatialmonkeys it has a small shield hp so once the shield drops it gets shut down quickly then just gets eaten.
@@harbringerf9416 I kinda got the impression you were suggesting that shields drop quickly enough for distortions to be effective. I haven’t encountered many distortion players recently, but hopefully, this change makes them more viable. I want my sentinel to shine again! Thanks for the clarification bud!
Get rid of MM and the guardian will suck against light fighters. MM is just a DPS shoot out. If they nerf the HP/armour (=less weight) they have to make it more nimble otherwise what's the point of the cool ass engines
Honestly it feels good the way it is right now. Only concern is cig nerf the hp :)
The constant mispronunciation of ship names just so you get comment engagement is a hack job
"... how it holds its own against some of the toughest match ups."
Me: "Are you sure about that?" Watching a gladius run circles around the fat fury.
I see the irony there! thanks for the great feedback bud! Make sure the audio aligns with what the viewers are watching!