@@heavyhittersgaming3759 To each his own I suppose.. people spend thousands a year on alcohol.. or golf.. everyone has hobbies & most people put some amount of money into pursuing them.
The Guardian feels like it was purpose built for bounty hunters and mercenaries. All the weapons are customizable, including the missile racks, it has multiple gun racks for FPS fighting, a nice interior and engineering terminal for whenever that comes out (and hopefully tuning, too), and just enough internal space for someone and a package or two. And let's face it, it looks damn good, too. Alien yet familiar, flashy yet functional; a ship for contract killers stalking the big cities of the 'verse, not just its outskirts. Definitely a ship worth checking out.
I fully agree with this, I even got the qi after flying the regular guardian in arena Commander, I was able to try both out because I'm a subscriber and they are both awesome that qi turns a little slower it feels but I think teamed up with another qi or guardian they will be a nasty team, which mostly I'll be flying with my buddy in his qi so he can keep them from running and I can use the bit more nimbleness to finish the target off
Given the fact it’s clearly modelled from a Tie Interceptor… it feels like a sith personal runabout to me, so yeh similar idea to a bounty hunters ship
It's the first fighter I've been interested in since CIG first nerfed the Vanguard. The stock Guardian W/stock paint is my favorite. It has everything a solo player needs in a fighter and more. I can always upgrade shields, power plants etc. and don't care if others run away ... So as to keep it simple, less things to wear out or break. What draws me to it the most, is the interior and S5 weapons W/out a turret, so no reliance on another player/NPC.
Since they nerfed the vangaurd he says. Ironically the Vangaurd is the stronger fighter. Better handling. More durable. Just as much dps. Much faster in atmo. Yeah that makes so much sense.
@Kurashinno standard guardian? There's no reason to get it. Same weapons. Same amenities. 3 m/s slower. BUT it has a Quantum jammer. You wont even notice the speed difference. I've used both. And power? If you power down the jammer you have just as much power to use.
Good script and excellent sound quality. Cinematography shows a deliberate and confident attempt at creating pleasing visuals. Content is compelling, informative, and doesn't meader or ramble. Great video and keep up the great work!
It’s a full on lil Fury Class interceptor imo, loads of people are saying it’s more like a TIE interceptor but given it’s designed to host a single person for long distances I’d say it’s more a kind to the FURY class!
I do like it, though it might be better to call it a 'light' heavy fighter. Still the payload is pretty good and I like how the ship handles, it does well in both atmosphere and space without feeling heavy. I do enjoy the interior and I appreciate the external rack and inventory access, makes it easy to throw some gear into the ship that you found without getting in and out of the ship. While it has a few little bugs that make it hard to get out the cockpit forward once inside and the limited power does make you have to manage allot its a solid single player daily driver that is relatively small but big enough for what it does. It has allot of furry advantages while not being completely dependent on the main thrusters to move which allows it to take a few more hits without becoming unflyable. They did a good job with it, very sexy ship.
You're right - I think the designation of "heavy" comes from the weapon payload. I only know this because I did a bit of digging when I did the buccaneer review 2 weeks(?) ago. I had always thought it was size/mass. But I was wrong.
Man, this ship gives me Slave I vibes, from SW, it has everything it needs for bounty hunting, even the style, but it has no stasys pod cells and that's a shame.
Nice review, feel the same about this ship. I love the hab, the weapons racks in the arms, the storage options, the colours the overall vibe of this ship.
One of the Devs talked about fixing the Redeemer. Moving the squad hab up and putting back its 4 man drop capability that it was originally pitched. Now we'll have our Hind-D in space with special operation insertion squads. Yea losing the weapon sizes sucks but if we get those drop pods I'll gladly take the trade off. Also like the Scorpius, I think 1 S2 Shield Gen is anemic....2 S2 Shield Gen's is where I think both ships should be sitting at or 4 x S1 shield Gens.
@@ForgeCoreGaming I think it was a spectrum post about 2 weeks ago. They were re-evaluating the ship for a Gold Pass. I honestly think it does qualify because when the Redeemer was pitched originally it was supposed to be a Special Operation's gunship. It was supposed to launch with the ability to quick drop a 4 (or was it 6 man) team into a contested zone and float around for close air support. The Redeemer we have now was more or less a gimped version of the ship that won the contest. If I remember the way the contest team stated, originally it was only supposed to have co-Pilot 2x S5 weapons while the rest were S4 weapons. Missiles that were Air to Ground and Air To Air to round out its offensive capabilities.
You can't compare a Connie to this. If we're talking solo vs solo, this wildly outperforms the constellations in a fight. But they're 2 ships with vastly different purposes.
Good for you man. It’s always great when you find a ship that you just get and it fits your style. I think as you highlighted, it’s one of the only heavy fighters you can ‘live in’ and that’s a real bonus. Unfortunately, just like the X Wing style Scorpius before it, I really wanted to love the Guardian but something about both of these Star Wars inspired ships just leaves me a bit Meh. All the points you make are valid and good. For me, I think I am disappointed it doesn’t stick to the style of the Fury with maybe 4 x S4’s. That’s such an aggressive and unique look that made you feel powerful and I was expecting that configuration as I love that about the Fury. Having 2 x S5’s slapped in the middle of the 4 big arms feels like a cop out and not in keeping the original design. I also think a solo player will get chewed up in Pyro if they wander around in this too long. Solid HP pool but that 1 xS2 shield is a bust.
So.. I agree all around here with your critiques of the ship. The 4s4's would have been nasty tbh. I think it would have been too strong though, and they'd have to remove some hull hp. Which.. I guess would be fine. The biggest reason I think they WON'T do it is because they'd have to go back and rework the hard points & power management on it.
I’ve been loving the Guardian for the same reasons: maneuverability, the S5 guns, and the living quarters. It definitely takes some practice in self-defense situations, as I couldn’t get a bead on a competent griefer in a Gladius near quick enough to avoid his destroying my power plants. I did some grinding in Pirate Swarm after that one. The only box this ship doesn’t tick for me is some small dedicated cargo space (like the Origin 300 series), but that could be easily solved if CIG replaced that rear elevator with a ramp; I have been able to fit a 1 SCU box inside, with a little difficulty, so if I find some valuable contraband on a VHRT/ERT, I might be able to take it with me.
Yeah - I'm perfectly ok with the limited storage capacity of it - and I don't think that SCU boxes will ALWAYS be safe to sneak up on the elevator.. I'm pretty sure they turned off damage to the interior of ships from most sources for the time being. But when they turn that back on, you won't be able to do that anymore.
I have a one ship rule so I don't over spend and upgraded my Starlancer Max to the Guardian QI and I love it brings me back to my early 325a days and is more practical than the Max IMO for a daily driver
I think the Guardian is the forbidden lovechild of the Elite Dangerous Vulture fighter with its two large weapons and the Star Wars Tie Interceptor. I'll be going with the QI variant even if I plan to have that system off outside of dedicated instances when me and org mates are trying to keep an NPC from fleeing as eventually they will do so. Personally I love the QIs base paint job and I like how it looks. Yes it is around 8% slower and less agile than the base model but I can accept that for the option to help out with a QI ship in situations where it is necessary to have one despite my distain for piracy and pirate activity. I can see the QI component being useful in bounty hunting 2.0 if targets may flee and don't have ro be taken alive.
Yes I just watch Fried Chicken load the SCU on the rear elevator which easily fit and you just enter from the front then and lower it and move it to the bunker entrance then put it back on the ship and raise it up so simple and CIG got this one right. Polaris repairs will run in the millions based on how much damage and ammo restock as well as the fuel will kill you out of the gate. So far I am impressed they covered all the important bases with this ship and I love the look and layout, I do think the QI is the better choice for a cash purchase though you get more for your money. I also wish they gave it 2 size 2 shields or 1 size 3 shield but remember that this is alpha and if we let them know it's to weak here it can be changed like they just did with the Intrepid. But all in all this one looks like a in between winner it's got it's own spot to achieve long term goals unlike devoted fighters. I am considering letting a few of my devoted fighters go due to the fact they are not long distance now and more like glass canons, lots of weapons doesn't guaranty you win the fight you have to survive , so more of the smaller fighters have become less appealing to me even though I love the look and feel and speed ,they just cant take on anything big at all size one shields are not a lot of protection and they have little to no real armor on most of the ships that's why they are so fast and agile. This ship gives you a decent shot but doesn't give you a insane advantage it's a good balance of game mechanics without stacking the deck in your favor. Great video BTW keep it up.thank you.
That's how I feel about it. It's good - but it's not SO good that it's the right fit for everyone. It isn't BiS in many aspects. So I don' t think the nerf hammer is coming down on this one any time soon. If anything, maybe a buff.. maybe not
The Guardian is a good looking ship, I like the way the wings move when raising the landing gear and the quantum dampener animation is pretty sleek as well.
@ForgeCoreGaming I tried a combination of rattlers and arrows and it seemed like the arrows were just tracking better and did more damage. Particularly if you fire 2-4 at once.
@@lordnai8260 Nice - I'll keep that in mind. I was primarily going to use rattlers as a way to keep capital ship pds turrets busy. But I also don't engage with capital ships.. so it may have been a moot point.
I recently melted my Vanguard Warden and the BUKs that I have been holding onto since the concept sale. It broke my heart, but it simply never performed its stated role, and I have come to abandon combat in SL as a chosen profession. This ship makes me consider if I shouldn't take another look, though. The only thing that really makes me hesitate is the spectre of them changing the ship after the sale to remove its strengths.
Ok so honestly.. I predict less of that will happen. The scope and scale of this game is a lot further along these days. The old ships suffer because of this, but new ships don't feel OP.
How does the guardian compare to the warden?? The warden feels a lot more like a heavy fighter than this... this ship looks amazing and I'm on the fence between the two.
@@ForgeCoreGaming It's hard not to feel they will cut back on the Guardian. Compared to the Warden, it has twice the firepower, better handling while maintaining the same speed, apparently more armor (if HPs are a reflection of armor and durability), and the same living support systems for long duration missions. The only things the Vanguard might have are the use of a ramp instead of a lift (value indeterminate since the Vanguard carries no cargo or vehicles), may have greater quantum range (currently indeterminate with no indication the devs intend to make it the huge increase over other fighters it was supposed to feature), and the module system (indeterminate value as the torpedoes of the Harbinger are low damage weapons easily shot down, and the Guardian can get a similar option to the Sentinel while maintaining livability). Right now, it is seeming the Vanguard simply can't compete with the Guardian, and I feel that will motivate reductions after the sale ends rather than improvements to the Vanguard series.
In my opinion, it's worth pledging. You can fit a 2 scu box on the elevator. It fits perfectly. Or you can do a 1 scu container and a pulse.. they don't lock down (obviously), but it works. This became my favorite ship in the game in just 1 day.
i did not had the chance to try it yet ,but from all the review videos i like it more and more ,i also look more at the ships that can give me more longevity and versatility
Four doors could be a hassle, but you can exit out the front like a fury! Just look down and right click on the "exit to rear" button and it'll bring up a selection wheel. This is also why there's additional gun racks and inventory on the wing tips, you can pop out the front, grab a gun and get right into action. Also there are brave redditors that managed to fit 2 Guardians into the Polaris, you won't be able to scramble fighters in a timely fashion in an emergency, but it's doable :P
Ok - thank you for telling me. I knew how to get IN from the front, but I thought I was going crazy with not being able to find the way out. That's very helpful. And I'm going to go check the reddit right now for these Double Guardian Double Stuffers.
Update - I purchased Galdereens in the PU (expensive as heck). Tried them out on a couple of bounties.. things got WAAAYYY easier. Plus they're so satisfying to use.
I picked up the QI as well and I haven’t regretted it for a second. Great video, bud. The only grip I have is the suit locker in the bathroom should be switched.
I'll play devil's advocate here. You don't wanna drag space contaminants across your habitation area. You never know what kind of exotic bacteria you'll pick up out there!
I got the non Qi version and thus far my other ships are honestly getting ignored at the moment. As you stated, the design is top tier tie interceptor vibes, it's very maneuverable for a heavy fighter (so much so that I almost black out often lol) and it has a livable interior as well! I agree that the shields are lacking, but it more than makes up for it with the DOUBLE hull hp of the vanguard series. My current daily driver for sure.
@@ForgeCoreGaming i don't know because in erkul it shows no price and doesnt say where i can buy it. so i guess it is not for purchase at the moment. however fandom says it cost 36.7k and can be bought on grim hex, omega pro NB orPLatinum BAy CRU L5. i will chek today if it is available. if not there is alsao the TRENTA that alkso gives 6.1k shield and is available for purchase on grim hex for 56k
Ship is amazing and my buddy love his! I’m waiting for the Anvil Paladin myself. The Starlancer is to big and slow so I’m going back to a Constellation.
I think the guardian will be a perfect fit for my playstyle, I was really looking for a suitable ship to do PvE missions and also something that can use to defend myself in case someone comes after me to do some PvP, while also having an interior and a bed so I can avoid spaceports and stations for extended periods of time. It's only a little bit too expensive for what it offers tbh.
I am really bad at space combat and never really played any Bounty missions .. more of a hauler and miner myself. But with the whipe I wanted to diversify my gameplay and the Mirai just hit the spot. I love MISC ships so I love how she looks and fighting us so much fun with her ^^
@@ForgeCoreGaming haven't decided on any color so far, but the QI black looks already near ... but I probably go for the red one, getting the cockpit glas in red looks nice ^^
Haven’t been in game since they added the Guardian. I do want to try it out. I snagged a CCU to the Qi just in case. I myself like some utility/versatility in my ships, and as far as fighters go the Guardian is scratching that itch more than the Vanguards.
They truly hit a new standard with this ship when it comes to space optimization! I as well am a solo pilot most of the time, so the guardian is really attractive. If you want to meet up in the verse, I would love to see you make a review video of my Mustang Omega AMD edition, really a rare ship and almost no vids on it.
I loved the fury, so I’m really happy they made a similar ship that wasn’t a snub fighter. Also bummed about the redeemer rebalance, but oh well, never used it to much anyways.
Personally, I really wanted the QI's default skin for the standard as well! The Chairman's Club skin is close to it; but, I like how clean the QI's paint looks without the extra gold lines.
I'll still hold on the Paladin and use the Guardian as the goal to grind. But I am really tempted to just melt it and have fun with this perfect solo ship
@ForgeCoreGaming Good luck, its not to bad. Wish they would give ships like the guardian a small cargo like for example on the 325a or on the intrepid. That would be so nice to have a dedicated small space for 1-4 scu. Also it would have been amazing from Miria to include a pulse to the ship and add a something that holds the pulse. How amazing that would be to to land and get out of the ship having a small vehicle and a little space for a few small containers. Definitely could have been done instead of giving such a small ship 4 rooms and 4 doors before finally getting into the cockpit.
A long range fighter, so it falls between the Banu Defender and the Vanguard. Smaller than both and harder hitting, but lacking the ramp that makes box delivery easy. For the big guns I felt let down by the Crusader Ares/Ion during IAE, but they are anti-large, where this is anti-medium and the maneuverability is in the Guardian to make it playable against fighters. I'm not much for QD gameplay so I'm leaning towards the standard variant. I prefer the red paint out of the options but the Qi standard paint is cool as well.
I think the QI could hang against large ships as well - but aren't the Ares ships supposed to do work on Capital ships? I might have misunderstood that when i was first introduced to them
i really like that its up to date, but that even more hypes me for an update to the vanguards. They have double the shields, turret, more armor, "should" be long range sometime and especially the ramp so you can "drive in" a pule or a 2 scu crate
Despite having lower shields, the maneuverability makes up for it. However, I would say they each have different intent with the Vanguards focusing on "Endurance" and the Guardians on "Agility". It is less forgiving on mistakes than the Vanguards.
You're right about that - I've lost a couple fights already. Went into a MRT & had to leave immediately - the 4 NPC ships that showed up were on me from all angles & melted my shields inside of 4 seconds. My hull was red before 10 seconds. I had to limp my way back to a station.
Best and relevant analysis that I’m watching since the release of "Guardians" and I ask for your opinion! I have a pair of LTI tokens in a pack and I want to make them my "pair of solo hunters". I already have the "Firebird" as a medium ship and I want to add one of the two guardians, so I will have a solo combat pack with a medium and a heavy to adapt to the missions. Do you recommend "IQ" or "Normal" ? Or another ?
If you're "hunting" other players - the QI. The reason being is players will typically just run away if they're losing the fight - at least if they have a crime stat. Something with a quantum dampener is just required. I, personally, wouldn't vote for another ship - but I'm biased.. this is my favorite ship in the game right now.
The guardian is such a delight. Its stock loadout resembles what I used to fit on my redeemer. It's a flyable solo og redeemer turret. 2x S5 laser cannons pack such a punch. It's so satisfying to not spray but to aim and snipe ships. Unstaggered, most small fighters take 1 shot to take out the shields and then 1 or 2 more shots to blow up. S5 cannons are medium to large ship killers too. Corsairs and Hammerheads will hate guardians with S5 laser cannons
I didn't even think of it that way! lol that's a cool perspective.. you're just a flying redeemer turret. And yeah, this ship is gonna be a menace to a lot of the larger ships in the game. I love it
@@ForgeCoreGaming That does bring up the question as to whether or not the old size 5 ballistic gatlings that the pre-nerf Redeemer had on it's turrets (I forget the name) would be useful on the Guardian (in comparison to laser-based systems)?
I like the original gun on the Inferno. But the relentless nerfs to it and no interior in such a huge ship, when the smaller intrepid got a full interior like the guardian, made it an easy melt for the guardian. I cannot get my MFDs power settings to persist from landing and storing to switching from nav mode to scm mode. I am constantly having to reset my power allocations. Quite annoying. But working on the second half a mil needed to upgrade power supplies to the Lumacore and shield to the Trenta and QD to the Hemera. First half a mil went to swapping omni for attritions. Still not sure which has faster TTK though. I only wish that they had not put that extra door at the back. No need to have a door between elevator room and engineering room. There is components in the elevator room so you would still need to vent the elevator room to access those components. The hab space has another door and then the cockpit has an airlock. All of that is moot anyway since the suit locker is in the elevator room, so you are not getting a suit on if you are in cockpit and take damage which vents the rear of the ship. We still do not have the room tech in game yet, but the layout is questionable and the extra door is pointless besides just making it harder to put stuff like a pulse into the ship. still my new favorite ship. I do not have any ships without an interior. If I wanted to just fly a ship with cockpit, I could do that in ED and have much less bugs. I had inferno from concept because of course Brrrrrrrrrrrt, but when they did not put an interior into that ship, I was already starting to lose my desire for it. Then the intrepid comes out and is smaller, with an oversized gun and a full interior, and the constant nerfs to the inferno made it finally lose its luster. Been waiting for a non vanguard heavy with interior to replace my inferno. This ship is definitely it. Only thing better would be a drake heavy fighter with interior. I am a DRAKE boy, just love their aesthetic and real feeling of the ship.
Always wait to review and make a final purchase a good week or so after it is not for sale. Get a CCU to one. The nurfs will be coming, they always do.
They don't really have anything to nerf. Its not OP by any stretch. It already has less maneuverability than the base model. Both models have low shield hp and a few components with less than 1000 hp. It isn't SUPER fast.. and it isn't SUPER strong. The scope of the game is more fleshed out these days & ship balancing is happening to old ships to reflect that. New ships can be expected to be relatively safe from the nerf hammer.
New to the channel and I’m enjoying it so far. I love this ship but something that gets on my nerves is that when I’m flying 3rd person my thrusters are just all cock eyed and looking all over the play lol Also I like the interior but i hate how segmented it is. We don’t always need 4 segments, 3 would be perfect. First is rear entrance which will be components, second can be living area and armor/weapon storage, third cockpit that they can make a bit bigger so you don’t get stuck between a shut door and a empty seat. This has happened to me and what ended up happening is I would get pushed to the bubble in front of the chair so I had to get back in seat and try again.
1st: Welcome to the channel :) 2nd: Yeah, I think the entrance & component room COULD be unified into one. I can't really think of a reason why they'd need to be isolated. 3rd: I haven't gotten stuck in it yet. Lol new fear unlocked.
Great review, and great content in general. The Guardian is a great looking ship, and it seems it is packed full of features. In regards to the F7C, i have been wanting one since it was a flyable fighter in the tutorial waay back, but with the reviews and comments i read, i am hesitant to get one currently 🤔
@ForgeCoreGaming thanks for the offer, I however did manage to rent the F7C MK2 in AC, but I was not able to fit additional weapons, specifically the turret mounted ones or the chin ones "I know they should not be available on the C variants". But if I try fitting a F7C on Erkul it's possible to fully equip the ship, which makes me wonder, what would your loadout be for a F7C ? And thx for the great content, much appreciated.
If the opportunity calls for it, sure. I'm certain Pyro will bring out the pirate in a lot of people.. my crew and I plan on hunting some of em. Just for fun... not for principle.
@ForgeCoreGaming referring to i have a QI UPGRADE from the Guardian wondering if i should apply it as i preferably use the standard but will go to QI if there is merit otherwise I'll keep the white skin. Look me up in game same name
@@UBIQUITAR ohhhhh... my bad. I would say 95% of the time, I won't even consider using the dampener.. and the base model has slightly better handling performance. So if you have no intention of using it, stick with the base. As it stands, I have mine turned off almost always - as it requires 3 energy pips to keep on.
@@ForgeCoreGaming Are you able to turn off the QI module and reuse those points? I didnt see anyone click on it to disable so far. If thats possible, its basically a base Guardian with a extremely negiglible difference on manuevability. I think it would be worth the upgrade even without thinking about use the QI module, unless you want the base painting that is
CCU'ed my Ion for this, like you said in your Vanguard review, the complete interior of the Guardian makes it very appealing Also, the Tie Interceptor vibes of the QI are just too freaking good to pass up. If they did restore the Ion to its launch glory, I would consider getting one of those again, but even then, no bed, makes me sad.
Great Video once again. I always thought I wouldn´t buy the guardian... but it happened that i have a CCU Chain that fitted the QI for just a 5$ upgrade and i fucking love it
I think the guardian will be a great support ship for pirates or other groups. I wouldn't recommend using it in the future as a solo player. At least not if you're into PvP. Future balancing aside, one of the biggest weaknesses of the guardian will be its main ball thrusters. They will probably be shot out easily when hit by ballistics. But when you are avoiding heavy PvP the guardian might be a good ship.
I think this is my new default ship. My favorite ship to fly is still the Arrow, and I haven't cared much for other heavy fighters, but this is pretty maneuverable _for a heavy fighter_ and quite versatile. Even though the speed difference over the QI is negligible (for now at least), I went with the base model.
@@aronmangaming No problemo - btw, you MIGHT have to adjust your field of view in your game graphics settings if the radial menu is getting cut off on the bottom of the screen.
It scratches my itch. It’s designed for solo play. Its looks are sci-fi movie cool. It’s got a bed and a kitchen. Weapons are decent enough for most NPC ships not to be a problem. The extra storage for bunker runs was a huge selling point for me as well. I got the base version- because of power management issues and because I don’t see me using the dampener. To me this isn’t a ship I would want to actively PvP in and the dampener is worthless on NPCs. Besides I can always upgrade if the need arises. So as much as the haters want to say this ship is garbage, it’s found a solid home with me.
Are people hating on this ship? I always hold this belief: If people like it, let em like it.. there are good things about every ship in this game. And every person playing it has a slightly different reason and taste.
I really hope they rework the MFD thing - its horrible... just in this video, it was blocking your view every time you're in combat and trying to keep eyes on target. All they need to do is cut it in half, and rotate each side diagonally just a bit, put them in line with the "wings". Know what I mean? It would look so much better, and visibility would be amazing.
I probably just wait for something similar with interior from another manufacturer. If you haven't tried already set a keybind for pip toggle, attacking large ships with lagg pip feels way better to pick it apart
5:27 Cpt_foxyloxy was able to pull a 1scu into the second room and then put a pulse in the elevator. He was also able to stand a 2SCU box on the elevator and when raised it fits perfectly standing on the elevator. Also 2 guardians fit in polaris.
Lol yup - I heard all of these things in the 24 hours after I published this video. I didn't find a screenshot of how the 2 guardians fit into the Polaris. It's something I'm gonna have to try later today.
I was so torn between a Harb and the Guardian Qi. Harb has more DPS, Shield and a turret for the off-chance you get a gunner. Qi seems fun for pack tactics piracy. I have CCUs for both, gonna decide which one to use after the Guardian got its inevitable nerf pass. Probably gonna apply the CCU I want during Invictus next year, when it's easier to plan a chain.
I also wanna add they will either need to nerf the QI a bit or buff the base a bit, because the differences seem miniscule with the QED being a definitive pro. So we might see a slight buff soon.
I would hope that since you need 3 power to use the QI it becomes a skill issue with regards to power management. I don't know for sure but that would be my thought process as to why they are close. Time will tell I guess. QI paint job is why I am likely choosing it over the base.
@@besgarknightshade3241 You're right - it's (energetically) expensive to use. I was messing around the other day because another player happened upon me while I was doing a bounty.. I chased him around a bit - with zero intention of actually killing him. But I put my dampener on just for fun.. bam crime stat.. didn't even consider that would happen.
i'm actually interested in getting this, as it has a walkable interior.. for me it's all about the immersion and having a place i could call home. while i don't normally fly combat ships, i definitely know i will want one combat ship i am used to flying. And currently it's looking like i might be chosing the guardian. But first i need to find someone to spawn it for me.
Personally for me, the vanguard warden is still going to be my primary fighter due to the tankyness, and turret, although ill definitely buy the guardian in game! Edit: I also feel like the redeemer is taking steps in the right direction, as I think you could almost classify it as a "superheavy" fighter, which I'm not to upset about despite having tried pre change and loving the s3 shields and massive turrets
Ironically, the post-nerf version of the Redeemer is actually far closer to what the original concept of the ship was. I remember melting mine when it finally got put in the game because you *couldn't* use it like a super-heavy fighter. The speed/agility nerf was just way too much for me.
Thats the first review of the guardian Iv'e seen were the attritions aren't the top spot recomandation, finaly someone that actuacly flown that thing for more than just 5 minutes.
Lol i tried the attritions.. they don't make sense on this ship. That's baked into what I said about not "pumping out" videos for the sake of views. Thanks for watching!
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no way this ship is worth the price!
@heavyhittersgaming3759 Well, nothing above the titan is worth the price.
@@heavyhittersgaming3759 To each his own I suppose.. people spend thousands a year on alcohol.. or golf.. everyone has hobbies & most people put some amount of money into pursuing them.
@@ForgeCoreGaming well said sir, o7
The Guardian feels like it was purpose built for bounty hunters and mercenaries. All the weapons are customizable, including the missile racks, it has multiple gun racks for FPS fighting, a nice interior and engineering terminal for whenever that comes out (and hopefully tuning, too), and just enough internal space for someone and a package or two. And let's face it, it looks damn good, too. Alien yet familiar, flashy yet functional; a ship for contract killers stalking the big cities of the 'verse, not just its outskirts. Definitely a ship worth checking out.
Oooh I like that. That's the vibe I got from the trailer on the site
Perfectly Said. 💯
I fully agree with this, I even got the qi after flying the regular guardian in arena Commander, I was able to try both out because I'm a subscriber and they are both awesome that qi turns a little slower it feels but I think teamed up with another qi or guardian they will be a nasty team, which mostly I'll be flying with my buddy in his qi so he can keep them from running and I can use the bit more nimbleness to finish the target off
Given the fact it’s clearly modelled from a Tie Interceptor… it feels like a sith personal runabout to me, so yeh similar idea to a bounty hunters ship
@@639wheeler I wanna join the Guardian squad
It's the first fighter I've been interested in since CIG first nerfed the Vanguard. The stock Guardian W/stock paint is my favorite.
It has everything a solo player needs in a fighter and more. I can always upgrade shields, power plants etc. and don't care if others run away ... So as to keep it simple, less things to wear out or break. What draws me to it the most, is the interior and S5 weapons W/out a turret, so no reliance on another player/NPC.
This.. all true my friend!
Since they nerfed the vangaurd he says. Ironically the Vangaurd is the stronger fighter. Better handling. More durable. Just as much dps. Much faster in atmo. Yeah that makes so much sense.
@@csdigitaldesignyeah mate people just hyping things up with the guardian. Its no better than vanguard tbh
Thank you for this insight. I think I'll go with the standard one
@Kurashinno standard guardian? There's no reason to get it. Same weapons. Same amenities. 3 m/s slower. BUT it has a Quantum jammer. You wont even notice the speed difference. I've used both. And power? If you power down the jammer you have just as much power to use.
Good script and excellent sound quality. Cinematography shows a deliberate and confident attempt at creating pleasing visuals. Content is compelling, informative, and doesn't meader or ramble. Great video and keep up the great work!
Awesome, thank you! Hope I earned your sub
I picked one up (the QI) and am for sure loving it. It feels complete. I appreciate your review!
My new fav fighter too …,perfection
I appreciate you watching!
It’s a full on lil Fury Class interceptor imo, loads of people are saying it’s more like a TIE interceptor but given it’s designed to host a single person for long distances I’d say it’s more a kind to the FURY class!
I do like it, though it might be better to call it a 'light' heavy fighter. Still the payload is pretty good and I like how the ship handles, it does well in both atmosphere and space without feeling heavy. I do enjoy the interior and I appreciate the external rack and inventory access, makes it easy to throw some gear into the ship that you found without getting in and out of the ship. While it has a few little bugs that make it hard to get out the cockpit forward once inside and the limited power does make you have to manage allot its a solid single player daily driver that is relatively small but big enough for what it does. It has allot of furry advantages while not being completely dependent on the main thrusters to move which allows it to take a few more hits without becoming unflyable. They did a good job with it, very sexy ship.
You're right - I think the designation of "heavy" comes from the weapon payload. I only know this because I did a bit of digging when I did the buccaneer review 2 weeks(?) ago. I had always thought it was size/mass. But I was wrong.
@ForgeCoreGaming Yep, as your research showed, firepower designates fighter "class".
Love my F8C, but damn.. the Tie Interceptor vibes and interior of the Guardian is mighty tempting.
It looks roo good. My fleet is complete
Tie interceptor, thank you! I'm soo tired of people calling it the Tie fighter lol
I melted my lightning for the guardian and I do not regret it (yet)
@wandering.westward which one? I have a GUARDIAN but bought the QI upgrade just in case right?
@@MalikronI’d probably call it more a FURY class interceptor given it’s a long range live in ship
worth noting that you can fit a 2SCu box on end, on the elevator, and it closes cleanly
Somebody else commented that last night. Not sure if I'm brave enough to do that lol
@@ForgeCoreGaming I wonder how well it'd handle high-g maneuvers with an unsecured box in the back?
I feel the same way about the guardian ships. Good content. I liked and subbed
Love it! Thank you and welcome to the channel
Man, this ship gives me Slave I vibes, from SW, it has everything it needs for bounty hunting, even the style, but it has no stasys pod cells and that's a shame.
Nice review, feel the same about this ship. I love the hab, the weapons racks in the arms, the storage options, the colours the overall vibe of this ship.
One of the Devs talked about fixing the Redeemer. Moving the squad hab up and putting back its 4 man drop capability that it was originally pitched. Now we'll have our Hind-D in space with special operation insertion squads.
Yea losing the weapon sizes sucks but if we get those drop pods I'll gladly take the trade off.
Also like the Scorpius, I think 1 S2 Shield Gen is anemic....2 S2 Shield Gen's is where I think both ships should be sitting at or 4 x S1 shield Gens.
When did they say this about the redeemer?
@@ForgeCoreGaming I think it was a spectrum post about 2 weeks ago. They were re-evaluating the ship for a Gold Pass. I honestly think it does qualify because when the Redeemer was pitched originally it was supposed to be a Special Operation's gunship. It was supposed to launch with the ability to quick drop a 4 (or was it 6 man) team into a contested zone and float around for close air support.
The Redeemer we have now was more or less a gimped version of the ship that won the contest. If I remember the way the contest team stated, originally it was only supposed to have co-Pilot 2x S5 weapons while the rest were S4 weapons. Missiles that were Air to Ground and Air To Air to round out its offensive capabilities.
The constellation way out performs this vessel. It does look cool tho.
You can't compare a Connie to this. If we're talking solo vs solo, this wildly outperforms the constellations in a fight. But they're 2 ships with vastly different purposes.
Yeah, what do i know.
Good for you man. It’s always great when you find a ship that you just get and it fits your style. I think as you highlighted, it’s one of the only heavy fighters you can ‘live in’ and that’s a real bonus. Unfortunately, just like the X Wing style Scorpius before it, I really wanted to love the Guardian but something about both of these Star Wars inspired ships just leaves me a bit Meh. All the points you make are valid and good. For me, I think I am disappointed it doesn’t stick to the style of the Fury with maybe 4 x S4’s.
That’s such an aggressive and unique look that made you feel powerful and I was expecting that configuration as I love that about the Fury. Having 2 x S5’s slapped in the middle of the 4 big arms feels like a cop out and not in keeping the original design. I also think a solo player will get chewed up in Pyro if they wander around in this too long. Solid HP pool but that 1 xS2 shield is a bust.
So.. I agree all around here with your critiques of the ship.
The 4s4's would have been nasty tbh. I think it would have been too strong though, and they'd have to remove some hull hp. Which.. I guess would be fine. The biggest reason I think they WON'T do it is because they'd have to go back and rework the hard points & power management on it.
I’ve been loving the Guardian for the same reasons: maneuverability, the S5 guns, and the living quarters. It definitely takes some practice in self-defense situations, as I couldn’t get a bead on a competent griefer in a Gladius near quick enough to avoid his destroying my power plants. I did some grinding in Pirate Swarm after that one.
The only box this ship doesn’t tick for me is some small dedicated cargo space (like the Origin 300 series), but that could be easily solved if CIG replaced that rear elevator with a ramp; I have been able to fit a 1 SCU box inside, with a little difficulty, so if I find some valuable contraband on a VHRT/ERT, I might be able to take it with me.
Yeah - I'm perfectly ok with the limited storage capacity of it - and I don't think that SCU boxes will ALWAYS be safe to sneak up on the elevator.. I'm pretty sure they turned off damage to the interior of ships from most sources for the time being. But when they turn that back on, you won't be able to do that anymore.
SC has some great youtubers that post quality shit. You sir did great with this vid. Thx for entertaining me.Subscribed!!!
Thanks! I'm doing the best I can at 10 hours per video
I freaki'n love mye Fat Fury, I got one on each account...
Lol how many accounts do you have?
@@ForgeCoreGaming 4 :)
I have a one ship rule so I don't over spend and upgraded my Starlancer Max to the Guardian QI and I love it brings me back to my early 325a days and is more practical than the Max IMO for a daily driver
I think the Guardian is the forbidden lovechild of the Elite Dangerous Vulture fighter with its two large weapons and the Star Wars Tie Interceptor. I'll be going with the QI variant even if I plan to have that system off outside of dedicated instances when me and org mates are trying to keep an NPC from fleeing as eventually they will do so. Personally I love the QIs base paint job and I like how it looks. Yes it is around 8% slower and less agile than the base model but I can accept that for the option to help out with a QI ship in situations where it is necessary to have one despite my distain for piracy and pirate activity. I can see the QI component being useful in bounty hunting 2.0 if targets may flee and don't have ro be taken alive.
This was a really good review. Subbed for more. Cheers bro. 🍻
Thanks for watching!
Yes I just watch Fried Chicken load the SCU on the rear elevator which easily fit and you just enter from the front then and lower it and move it to the bunker entrance then put it back on the ship and raise it up so simple and CIG got this one right. Polaris repairs will run in the millions based on how much damage and ammo restock as well as the fuel will kill you out of the gate. So far I am impressed they covered all the important bases with this ship and I love the look and layout, I do think the QI is the better choice for a cash purchase though you get more for your money. I also wish they gave it 2 size 2 shields or 1 size 3 shield but remember that this is alpha and if we let them know it's to weak here it can be changed like they just did with the Intrepid. But all in all this one looks like a in between winner it's got it's own spot to achieve long term goals unlike devoted fighters. I am considering letting a few of my devoted fighters go due to the fact they are not long distance now and more like glass canons, lots of weapons doesn't guaranty you win the fight you have to survive , so more of the smaller fighters have become less appealing to me even though I love the look and feel and speed ,they just cant take on anything big at all size one shields are not a lot of protection and they have little to no real armor on most of the ships that's why they are so fast and agile. This ship gives you a decent shot but doesn't give you a insane advantage it's a good balance of game mechanics without stacking the deck in your favor. Great video BTW keep it up.thank you.
That's how I feel about it. It's good - but it's not SO good that it's the right fit for everyone. It isn't BiS in many aspects. So I don' t think the nerf hammer is coming down on this one any time soon. If anything, maybe a buff.. maybe not
Amazing review bud, appreciate it! Just added the IQ to my fleet based on this... Was still not decided between both!
Tell CIG I want my cut :p
The Guardian is a good looking ship, I like the way the wings move when raising the landing gear and the quantum dampener animation is pretty sleek as well.
Nice video. Thinking about getting the war bond of the QI
Personally, I don't regret my purchase. I literally haven't even got in another ship other than a vulture since the patch.
Been waiting for ages to have a solo fighter like that. its really an amazing gift from cig for christmas :)
Right? It checks all my boxes
The Mirai Guardian has slowly become my favorite ship, but I still cannot get one unfortunatley, maybe some day.
It's my favorite ship as well. It should be available in game in a few months.
I have been using size one "arrow" missiles on the guardian for light/medium fighters and I absolutely love them.
I was thinking about switching to rattlers.
@ForgeCoreGaming I tried a combination of rattlers and arrows and it seemed like the arrows were just tracking better and did more damage. Particularly if you fire 2-4 at once.
@@lordnai8260 Nice - I'll keep that in mind. I was primarily going to use rattlers as a way to keep capital ship pds turrets busy. But I also don't engage with capital ships.. so it may have been a moot point.
I recently melted my Vanguard Warden and the BUKs that I have been holding onto since the concept sale. It broke my heart, but it simply never performed its stated role, and I have come to abandon combat in SL as a chosen profession. This ship makes me consider if I shouldn't take another look, though. The only thing that really makes me hesitate is the spectre of them changing the ship after the sale to remove its strengths.
Ok so honestly.. I predict less of that will happen. The scope and scale of this game is a lot further along these days. The old ships suffer because of this, but new ships don't feel OP.
How does the guardian compare to the warden?? The warden feels a lot more like a heavy fighter than this... this ship looks amazing and I'm on the fence between the two.
@@ForgeCoreGaming It's hard not to feel they will cut back on the Guardian. Compared to the Warden, it has twice the firepower, better handling while maintaining the same speed, apparently more armor (if HPs are a reflection of armor and durability), and the same living support systems for long duration missions. The only things the Vanguard might have are the use of a ramp instead of a lift (value indeterminate since the Vanguard carries no cargo or vehicles), may have greater quantum range (currently indeterminate with no indication the devs intend to make it the huge increase over other fighters it was supposed to feature), and the module system (indeterminate value as the torpedoes of the Harbinger are low damage weapons easily shot down, and the Guardian can get a similar option to the Sentinel while maintaining livability). Right now, it is seeming the Vanguard simply can't compete with the Guardian, and I feel that will motivate reductions after the sale ends rather than improvements to the Vanguard series.
The amount of details in this ship is so awesome, but they could have given us 1 SCU. Regardless, I really want one.
In my opinion, it's worth pledging. You can fit a 2 scu box on the elevator. It fits perfectly. Or you can do a 1 scu container and a pulse.. they don't lock down (obviously), but it works. This became my favorite ship in the game in just 1 day.
i did not had the chance to try it yet ,but from all the review videos i like it more and more ,i also look more at the ships that can give me more longevity and versatility
Four doors could be a hassle, but you can exit out the front like a fury! Just look down and right click on the "exit to rear" button and it'll bring up a selection wheel. This is also why there's additional gun racks and inventory on the wing tips, you can pop out the front, grab a gun and get right into action.
Also there are brave redditors that managed to fit 2 Guardians into the Polaris, you won't be able to scramble fighters in a timely fashion in an emergency, but it's doable :P
Ok - thank you for telling me. I knew how to get IN from the front, but I thought I was going crazy with not being able to find the way out. That's very helpful. And I'm going to go check the reddit right now for these Double Guardian Double Stuffers.
Did you change the weapon set? for which ones?
In the PU? No. S5 guns are expensive, and I'm just stocking up on gear for now. I'm undecided if I'll go with galdereens or attrition at this point.
Update - I purchased Galdereens in the PU (expensive as heck). Tried them out on a couple of bounties.. things got WAAAYYY easier. Plus they're so satisfying to use.
@@ForgeCoreGaming I wonder how well the pre nerf size 5 ballistics that the Redeemer used to come with (forgot the name) would stack up?
I picked up the QI as well and I haven’t regretted it for a second. Great video, bud. The only grip I have is the suit locker in the bathroom should be switched.
I'll play devil's advocate here. You don't wanna drag space contaminants across your habitation area. You never know what kind of exotic bacteria you'll pick up out there!
That makes zero sense. That’d be like having a bike rack next to your bedroom and your bathroom in the garage.
I got the non Qi version and thus far my other ships are honestly getting ignored at the moment. As you stated, the design is top tier tie interceptor vibes, it's very maneuverable for a heavy fighter (so much so that I almost black out often lol) and it has a livable interior as well!
I agree that the shields are lacking, but it more than makes up for it with the DOUBLE hull hp of the vanguard series. My current daily driver for sure.
Welcome to club Guardian
you can buff your shields to 6,1k with the comp b haltur
@@Brynjarson_CH good advice! Appreciate it!
@@Brynjarson_CH How much does that cost? lol money is tight these days
@@ForgeCoreGaming i don't know because in erkul it shows no price and doesnt say where i can buy it. so i guess it is not for purchase at the moment. however fandom says it cost 36.7k and can be bought on grim hex, omega pro NB orPLatinum BAy CRU L5. i will chek today if it is available. if not there is alsao the TRENTA that alkso gives 6.1k shield and is available for purchase on grim hex for 56k
Ship is amazing and my buddy love his!
I’m waiting for the Anvil Paladin myself. The Starlancer is to big and slow so I’m going back to a Constellation.
I love my slow whale (starlancer)
Paladin is slated for 2026
@@deutschhhhh6922 Nice
I think the guardian will be a perfect fit for my playstyle, I was really looking for a suitable ship to do PvE missions and also something that can use to defend myself in case someone comes after me to do some PvP, while also having an interior and a bed so I can avoid spaceports and stations for extended periods of time. It's only a little bit too expensive for what it offers tbh.
Exactly my thoughts. Its a lot of fun to use when you're playing solo.
I am really bad at space combat and never really played any Bounty missions .. more of a hauler and miner myself.
But with the whipe I wanted to diversify my gameplay and the Mirai just hit the spot.
I love MISC ships so I love how she looks and fighting us so much fun with her ^^
Did you get any paints for it
@@ForgeCoreGaming haven't decided on any color so far, but the QI black looks already near ... but I probably go for the red one, getting the cockpit glas in red looks nice ^^
Haven’t been in game since they added the Guardian. I do want to try it out. I snagged a CCU to the Qi just in case. I myself like some utility/versatility in my ships, and as far as fighters go the Guardian is scratching that itch more than the Vanguards.
What a fantastic review... May I suggest that you swap out your missile racks and load it with sixteen rattlers
I was thinkin' the same thing :) Still haven't done it - but I also don't use missiles often due to the cost of restocking.
They truly hit a new standard with this ship when it comes to space optimization! I as well am a solo pilot most of the time, so the guardian is really attractive. If you want to meet up in the verse, I would love to see you make a review video of my Mustang Omega AMD edition, really a rare ship and almost no vids on it.
I'd love to. Add me: Fenyks-VII
@ForgeCoreGaming will do!
I loved the fury, so I’m really happy they made a similar ship that wasn’t a snub fighter. Also bummed about the redeemer rebalance, but oh well, never used it to much anyways.
I used the redeemer every day >.
Now, they just need to add in medium-sized fighter based on this design!
Hopefully, cingoy will let the stock skins become available...would like to use base skin on the qt version
Personally, I really wanted the QI's default skin for the standard as well! The Chairman's Club skin is close to it; but, I like how clean the QI's paint looks without the extra gold lines.
I'll still hold on the Paladin and use the Guardian as the goal to grind.
But I am really tempted to just melt it and have fun with this perfect solo ship
Ooh... tough choice tbh... paladin is probably 18 months out
You can fit a up to a 2 scu container in the back, but you have to use the front entry then to get into the ship. Same applies to a Mirai Pulse
Yeah, I found that out from some other folks. I'm considering trying it.
@ForgeCoreGaming Good luck, its not to bad. Wish they would give ships like the guardian a small cargo like for example on the 325a or on the intrepid. That would be so nice to have a dedicated small space for 1-4 scu. Also it would have been amazing from Miria to include a pulse to the ship and add a something that holds the pulse. How amazing that would be to to land and get out of the ship having a small vehicle and a little space for a few small containers. Definitely could have been done instead of giving such a small ship 4 rooms and 4 doors before finally getting into the cockpit.
Totally agree with your take. It's in my fleet permanently because it is my main gameloop of several different things.
Same thing - it's actually my favorite ship in the game right now. I think I'm officially done searching for my ideal ship.
@ForgeCoreGaming Dam, said that same thing to my son the other day. o7
Nice review, thank you.
Thanks for watching!
A long range fighter, so it falls between the Banu Defender and the Vanguard. Smaller than both and harder hitting, but lacking the ramp that makes box delivery easy. For the big guns I felt let down by the Crusader Ares/Ion during IAE, but they are anti-large, where this is anti-medium and the maneuverability is in the Guardian to make it playable against fighters. I'm not much for QD gameplay so I'm leaning towards the standard variant. I prefer the red paint out of the options but the Qi standard paint is cool as well.
I think the QI could hang against large ships as well - but aren't the Ares ships supposed to do work on Capital ships? I might have misunderstood that when i was first introduced to them
@@ForgeCoreGaming They are are part of anti-capital, just won't be taking a capital ship on their own but should handle a large with a good pilot imho
i really like that its up to date, but that even more hypes me for an update to the vanguards. They have double the shields, turret, more armor, "should" be long range sometime and especially the ramp so you can "drive in" a pule or a 2 scu crate
Despite having lower shields, the maneuverability makes up for it.
However, I would say they each have different intent with the Vanguards focusing on "Endurance" and the Guardians on "Agility". It is less forgiving on mistakes than the Vanguards.
You're right about that - I've lost a couple fights already. Went into a MRT & had to leave immediately - the 4 NPC ships that showed up were on me from all angles & melted my shields inside of 4 seconds. My hull was red before 10 seconds. I had to limp my way back to a station.
The Connie Andromeda is stilll my daily driver with this next on my list.
Awesome ship! Nothing more to say :) Really enjoying this review. Thanks for the content
It's only possible because people like you take the time to watch.
FYI there are gun racks and internal storage on the bottom wings outside of the ship, just in front of the missile pods. Seems you missed those.
Nope - I mentioned those in the video, I just forgot to record the video of it. But.. I appreciate it! It'd be really easy to miss those
Nice Video, thank you so much.
Edit: Nice background music! What is it?
I have the music credits listed in the description. It's from Chosic.com - royalty free, so long as you provide credit.
Inner storage is available inside the ship as well. It's under your bunk.
I swear I checked there.. skill issue 100% lol thanks for the heads up!
Best and relevant analysis that I’m watching since the release of "Guardians" and I ask for your opinion!
I have a pair of LTI tokens in a pack and I want to make them my "pair of solo hunters".
I already have the "Firebird" as a medium ship and I want to add one of the two guardians, so I will have a solo combat pack with a medium and a heavy to adapt to the missions.
Do you recommend "IQ" or "Normal" ? Or another ?
If you're "hunting" other players - the QI. The reason being is players will typically just run away if they're losing the fight - at least if they have a crime stat. Something with a quantum dampener is just required.
I, personally, wouldn't vote for another ship - but I'm biased.. this is my favorite ship in the game right now.
The guardian is such a delight. Its stock loadout resembles what I used to fit on my redeemer. It's a flyable solo og redeemer turret.
2x S5 laser cannons pack such a punch. It's so satisfying to not spray but to aim and snipe ships. Unstaggered, most small fighters take 1 shot to take out the shields and then 1 or 2 more shots to blow up.
S5 cannons are medium to large ship killers too. Corsairs and Hammerheads will hate guardians with S5 laser cannons
I didn't even think of it that way! lol that's a cool perspective.. you're just a flying redeemer turret.
And yeah, this ship is gonna be a menace to a lot of the larger ships in the game. I love it
@@ForgeCoreGaming That does bring up the question as to whether or not the old size 5 ballistic gatlings that the pre-nerf Redeemer had on it's turrets (I forget the name) would be useful on the Guardian (in comparison to laser-based systems)?
I like the original gun on the Inferno. But the relentless nerfs to it and no interior in such a huge ship, when the smaller intrepid got a full interior like the guardian, made it an easy melt for the guardian. I cannot get my MFDs power settings to persist from landing and storing to switching from nav mode to scm mode. I am constantly having to reset my power allocations. Quite annoying. But working on the second half a mil needed to upgrade power supplies to the Lumacore and shield to the Trenta and QD to the Hemera. First half a mil went to swapping omni for attritions. Still not sure which has faster TTK though.
I only wish that they had not put that extra door at the back. No need to have a door between elevator room and engineering room. There is components in the elevator room so you would still need to vent the elevator room to access those components. The hab space has another door and then the cockpit has an airlock. All of that is moot anyway since the suit locker is in the elevator room, so you are not getting a suit on if you are in cockpit and take damage which vents the rear of the ship. We still do not have the room tech in game yet, but the layout is questionable and the extra door is pointless besides just making it harder to put stuff like a pulse into the ship.
still my new favorite ship. I do not have any ships without an interior. If I wanted to just fly a ship with cockpit, I could do that in ED and have much less bugs. I had inferno from concept because of course Brrrrrrrrrrrt, but when they did not put an interior into that ship, I was already starting to lose my desire for it. Then the intrepid comes out and is smaller, with an oversized gun and a full interior, and the constant nerfs to the inferno made it finally lose its luster. Been waiting for a non vanguard heavy with interior to replace my inferno. This ship is definitely it. Only thing better would be a drake heavy fighter with interior. I am a DRAKE boy, just love their aesthetic and real feeling of the ship.
Always wait to review and make a final purchase a good week or so after it is not for sale. Get a CCU to one. The nurfs will be coming, they always do.
I pray you're wrong this time
Should I replace the cannons with repeaters?
Your preference. I went with Galdereens. I'm debating on attritions, but i prefer repeaters over cannons.
I had absolutely no idea this ship had an interior!!! That's absolutely incredible, I severely underestimated this ship.
That's like half the hype of this thing
I picked up a CCU for one, not sure if it will replace my Warden.
Its a tough choice
I'm waiting for a paycheck to grab myself one of these. Not sure which version, both looks awesome and I fear that they will nerf the QI version.
They don't really have anything to nerf. Its not OP by any stretch. It already has less maneuverability than the base model. Both models have low shield hp and a few components with less than 1000 hp. It isn't SUPER fast.. and it isn't SUPER strong. The scope of the game is more fleshed out these days & ship balancing is happening to old ships to reflect that. New ships can be expected to be relatively safe from the nerf hammer.
New to the channel and I’m enjoying it so far. I love this ship but something that gets on my nerves is that when I’m flying 3rd person my thrusters are just all cock eyed and looking all over the play lol
Also I like the interior but i hate how segmented it is. We don’t always need 4 segments, 3 would be perfect. First is rear entrance which will be components, second can be living area and armor/weapon storage, third cockpit that they can make a bit bigger so you don’t get stuck between a shut door and a empty seat. This has happened to me and what ended up happening is I would get pushed to the bubble in front of the chair so I had to get back in seat and try again.
1st: Welcome to the channel :)
2nd: Yeah, I think the entrance & component room COULD be unified into one. I can't really think of a reason why they'd need to be isolated.
3rd: I haven't gotten stuck in it yet. Lol new fear unlocked.
Great review, and great content in general.
The Guardian is a great looking ship, and it seems it is packed full of features.
In regards to the F7C, i have been wanting one since it was a flyable fighter in the tutorial waay back, but with the reviews and comments i read, i am hesitant to get one currently 🤔
Happy to let you borrow mine if you'd like to try it out
@ForgeCoreGaming thanks for the offer, I however did manage to rent the F7C MK2 in AC, but I was not able to fit additional weapons, specifically the turret mounted ones or the chin ones "I know they should not be available on the C variants".
But if I try fitting a F7C on Erkul it's possible to fully equip the ship, which makes me wonder, what would your loadout be for a F7C ?
And thx for the great content, much appreciated.
Wondering if you think the quantum dampner is a mandatory or a feature if you will use it.
If the opportunity calls for it, sure. I'm certain Pyro will bring out the pirate in a lot of people.. my crew and I plan on hunting some of em. Just for fun... not for principle.
@ForgeCoreGaming referring to i have a QI UPGRADE from the Guardian wondering if i should apply it as i preferably use the standard but will go to QI if there is merit otherwise I'll keep the white skin. Look me up in game same name
@@UBIQUITAR ohhhhh... my bad. I would say 95% of the time, I won't even consider using the dampener.. and the base model has slightly better handling performance. So if you have no intention of using it, stick with the base. As it stands, I have mine turned off almost always - as it requires 3 energy pips to keep on.
@@ForgeCoreGaming Are you able to turn off the QI module and reuse those points? I didnt see anyone click on it to disable so far. If thats possible, its basically a base Guardian with a extremely negiglible difference on manuevability. I think it would be worth the upgrade even without thinking about use the QI module, unless you want the base painting that is
Subbed for giving an actually thoughtful analysis, thanks! P.S. I think you just made my wallet lose $260
Tell CIG to put me on the payroll
Looks good. One door too many (aft). If it had two s2 shields and wasn’t so power gimped, I’d consider keeping it.
CCU'ed my Ion for this, like you said in your Vanguard review, the complete interior of the Guardian makes it very appealing Also, the Tie Interceptor vibes of the QI are just too freaking good to pass up. If they did restore the Ion to its launch glory, I would consider getting one of those again, but even then, no bed, makes me sad.
I think you made a good choice
Great Video once again. I always thought I wouldn´t buy the guardian... but it happened that i have a CCU Chain that fitted the QI for just a 5$ upgrade and i fucking love it
Lol welcome to the club!
Bought it. Tried it. Loved it. I guess the Guardian was the last link in that chain.
I think the guardian will be a great support ship for pirates or other groups.
I wouldn't recommend using it in the future as a solo player. At least not if you're into PvP. Future balancing aside, one of the biggest weaknesses of the guardian will be its main ball thrusters. They will probably be shot out easily when hit by ballistics.
But when you are avoiding heavy PvP the guardian might be a good ship.
Oh I'm going to be using it in pvp. Not by choice, but that's Pyro for ya.
Nice run down! Growning up fell in love with the interceptor so hard not to hit that buy now button
💶💶💶💸💶 take it!
I think this is my new default ship. My favorite ship to fly is still the Arrow, and I haven't cared much for other heavy fighters, but this is pretty maneuverable _for a heavy fighter_ and quite versatile. Even though the speed difference over the QI is negligible (for now at least), I went with the base model.
That's fair. I wrestled with which one to buy for a solid 30 minutes the night it came out
Can you confirm you can actually log off from the bed? I tried several times and there's just no log-off option only get up.
I've exclusively bed logged since the patch
From the Guardian
@@ForgeCoreGaming thank you!
@@aronmangaming No problemo - btw, you MIGHT have to adjust your field of view in your game graphics settings if the radial menu is getting cut off on the bottom of the screen.
@@ForgeCoreGaming this was totally it! Thank you!
Thank you so much for this!
You're very welcome!
It scratches my itch. It’s designed for solo play. Its looks are sci-fi movie cool. It’s got a bed and a kitchen. Weapons are decent enough for most NPC ships not to be a problem. The extra storage for bunker runs was a huge selling point for me as well. I got the base version- because of power management issues and because I don’t see me using the dampener. To me this isn’t a ship I would want to actively PvP in and the dampener is worthless on NPCs. Besides I can always upgrade if the need arises.
So as much as the haters want to say this ship is garbage, it’s found a solid home with me.
Are people hating on this ship? I always hold this belief: If people like it, let em like it.. there are good things about every ship in this game. And every person playing it has a slightly different reason and taste.
Plan to CCU the hopeless Terrapin to a Guardian variant.
As much as I dislike "The Last Jedi" the Guardian reminds me more of Kylo Ren's TIE Silencer than the TIE Interceptor
The Silencer didn't have the ball-type cockpit on it. Otherwise, it looks pretty close.
You’ve got to try the reliant tana. Change the gimbal slots so you have 6x s2 sawbuck. It even has cargo grid.
Fiiiinnneee.. lol I'll give a shot
I really hope they rework the MFD thing - its horrible... just in this video, it was blocking your view every time you're in combat and trying to keep eyes on target. All they need to do is cut it in half, and rotate each side diagonally just a bit, put them in line with the "wings". Know what I mean? It would look so much better, and visibility would be amazing.
I know exactly what you mean...or put them down at elbow height
I probably just wait for something similar with interior from another manufacturer.
If you haven't tried already set a keybind for pip toggle, attacking large ships with lagg pip feels way better to pick it apart
Ok noted - I'll set that up today. Thanks for the advice!
5:27 Cpt_foxyloxy was able to pull a 1scu into the second room and then put a pulse in the elevator. He was also able to stand a 2SCU box on the elevator and when raised it fits perfectly standing on the elevator.
Also 2 guardians fit in polaris.
Lol yup - I heard all of these things in the 24 hours after I published this video.
I didn't find a screenshot of how the 2 guardians fit into the Polaris. It's something I'm gonna have to try later today.
I think I saw a picture on a star citizen FB group. But they are turned sideways and I doubt you can drop straight down. Or it was faked.
I hope its buyable ingame soon
Probably will be in about 3 months.
Saw a screen shot of someone putting two guardians inside a polaris :D
Lol I heard about it, but couldn't find it. I'll have to give it a shot some time this week.
The base version has better maneuvering stats all around by a bit, I guess due to the mass of the QED. They are both great though.
I might have snagged a ccu from my f7c to the base guardian.. I'm not sure if I'll use it though
It's a good addition for Polaris as it has quantum dampening (the QI version) so potentially it can secure kill for Polaris.
Yea... curious what the range on the QD is
4500 @@ForgeCoreGaming
Everyone says Tie Interceptor, i see a Droid Vulture Starfighter
I've heard that too... generational gap?
@ForgeCoreGaming maybe. Maybe the vulture class and the Interceptor had a love child and that was the guardian
@@KipKil1igan Let's make it canon
I was so torn between a Harb and the Guardian Qi. Harb has more DPS, Shield and a turret for the off-chance you get a gunner. Qi seems fun for pack tactics piracy. I have CCUs for both, gonna decide which one to use after the Guardian got its inevitable nerf pass. Probably gonna apply the CCU I want during Invictus next year, when it's easier to plan a chain.
You have an outstanding amount of patience
Thank you for your review.
You're welcome :)
You're welcome
I don't regret getting my guardian, it's been a blast and fills the role amazingly well!
Heck yeah.. we should go fight some things together!
@ I’d fly with you anytime man o7
@@Squirrelking187 Are you on my friends list in game? I forget - if not, add me: Fenyks-VII
@@ForgeCoreGaming Added you back, my handle is Inui
I find the design leaning more perhaps to the design of the fighters of the first colony wars game
33 washing machines long 🤣🤣🤣 Love it!!
It's a pretty standard unit here in the States
I am Canadian can you please translate to metric? I need measurements in polar bears please.
Divide by two and it will give you the lenght in hockey sticks@@spookykid666
@@spookykid666 roughly 6.7 adult male polar bears long.
I actually melted my F8C for the guardian Qi and i dont regret it
Oooh.. that's a bold move. Did you get LTI on the Guardian?
Great review
Thank you!
Light strikes, my man. More range means more time to fire on a pursuing vessel.
I also wanna add they will either need to nerf the QI a bit or buff the base a bit, because the differences seem miniscule with the QED being a definitive pro.
So we might see a slight buff soon.
I'm gonna be sad if they nerf my QI
I would hope that since you need 3 power to use the QI it becomes a skill issue with regards to power management. I don't know for sure but that would be my thought process as to why they are close. Time will tell I guess. QI paint job is why I am likely choosing it over the base.
@@besgarknightshade3241 You're right - it's (energetically) expensive to use. I was messing around the other day because another player happened upon me while I was doing a bounty.. I chased him around a bit - with zero intention of actually killing him. But I put my dampener on just for fun.. bam crime stat.. didn't even consider that would happen.
@@ForgeCoreGaming It makes me wonder if they'll eventually give us an EMP variant as well?
i'm actually interested in getting this, as it has a walkable interior.. for me it's all about the immersion and having a place i could call home.
while i don't normally fly combat ships, i definitely know i will want one combat ship i am used to flying. And currently it's looking like i might be chosing the guardian. But first i need to find someone to spawn it for me.
Add me in game - I'll let you try mine
Personally for me, the vanguard warden is still going to be my primary fighter due to the tankyness, and turret, although ill definitely buy the guardian in game!
Edit: I also feel like the redeemer is taking steps in the right direction, as I think you could almost classify it as a "superheavy" fighter, which I'm not to upset about despite having tried pre change and loving the s3 shields and massive turrets
Nothin wrong with that. The Vanguards are good ships. Maybe we could form a heavy fighter squad some time & go to Pyro
How does the guardian compare to the warden? That would be a good video comparison. I'm on the fence between both.
Ironically, the post-nerf version of the Redeemer is actually far closer to what the original concept of the ship was. I remember melting mine when it finally got put in the game because you *couldn't* use it like a super-heavy fighter. The speed/agility nerf was just way too much for me.
So maybe the upgradepath from an Avanger?
You lose storage space but you gain in almost every other perceived way
I am totally in agreement its an awesome daily combat based ship
It really is
Thats the first review of the guardian Iv'e seen were the attritions aren't the top spot recomandation, finaly someone that actuacly flown that thing for more than just 5 minutes.
Lol i tried the attritions.. they don't make sense on this ship. That's baked into what I said about not "pumping out" videos for the sake of views. Thanks for watching!