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What else could they nerf, right? I don’t necessarily think it needs to be touched, but knowing CIG, they’ll likely tweak it as they often do after a ship sale. Considering that the Guardian has just one shield, a 20% drop in stats might make more sense. Thanks for the thought!

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Will I did 🤣 not to arena commander players but to really good arena commander players! Wasn't easy but it's possible. Just takes a bit of practice and a lot of back strafe haha! Give it a try, you'd be surprised!

@ those guys can’t be that good then. The guardian has no chance especially in 1 v1s

@@neok23 it's definitely the hardest fight, no one is debating that but it is possible especially if they crash into kareah :P

@@spatialmonkeys I mean I love the ship but wouldn’t take it to fight players. Also think the top scm speed needs to be much higher for the qi. Bit useless right now because everyone can just run away. The dampener distance is only 5k or so

I understand your point, but I still believe it would remain viable as a support ship even with the nerf. Of course, we won't really know until it happens. Interestingly, I haven't seen any complaints about it-neither from those who want it buffed nor from those opposing it. So, perhaps they've actually managed to balance a ship well for the first time ever (:

In the realm of heavy fighters, I currently rate both the Guardian and the Hurricane as solid B-tier contenders from a player vs. player combat and small group fights perspective. As for the A-tier, the Firebird is absolutely dominating right now, along with the Arrow, Blade, and Talon, all evaluated from the same combat scenario. At the top of the food chain in the S-tier, I'd place the Hornet F7A and Gladius, especially considering their effectiveness in these types of engagements. If there's interest, I'm thinking of making a tier list video to dive deeper into this. Let me know what you think! Hope this answers your question!

Im not completely convinced that they well, but if they do anything that isn't to dramatic, the ship should be still viable!

Hey man!! it's been a while! Why aren't you in our org already? I appreciate the kind words :)

Hey Bud! In order to change the PIP size in Star Citizen, you’ll want to use the Gunnery UI Magnification Toggle. Here’s how you can set it up: 1. Go to the ‘Options’ menu and open ‘Keybindings’. 2. Navigate to the ‘Vehicle Weapons’ section. 3. Look for the ‘Gunnery UI Magnification Toggle’ setting. 4. Assign a key of your choice to this toggle. Once done, you can use the assigned key to switch between PIP sizes while playing. Hope this helps! :)

@@spatialmonkeys Thank you for your detailed answer:)

I completely agree its not OP. But I just have a feeling Cig will still nerf it :P Thanks for the support bud! I appreciate the kind words!

Thanks man! I'll try my best to be consistent! And I agree this format might be better for you guys than a full squadron battle! Thanks for the feedback! I appreciate it!

Its not that op to need a nerf now! maybe next patch when cig gets everyone to buy it. But I believe its in is pretty good place at the moment. Might just need some minor tuning! A small hp nerf! or buff :P

You think the vanguard is better? I really haven't fought really good pilots flying it yet. But I'll have to give it a try! I do love the vanguard series!

@@spatialmonkeys Also, if you check the DPS in erkul, you see it has pretty good stats and its also hard to kill. Would love to see you try it against one of your pilots in an guardian. It seems people forget how good the vanguard still is. Thanks for the video btw and have a wonderfull Christmas.

@@machoalright Ya! I was just on there! It beats the Guardian on everything but health and yaw speed. I definitely have to give it a try. Merry Christmas to you too buddy! Hope you have a lovely one!

Appreciate it bud!

No my ass is OP!

Are people complaining about the Guardian? It's not the best ship out there. I feel it is quiet balanced, tanky, maneuverable (to some extent, anything smaller can do circles around it if they know what they are doing), but has low dps. I hope they don't just kill it :P I see so many less corsair flying around now!

Very tough choice! If it were me, I would melt the Harbinger! but honestly, you should melt whatever you use less!

I used to have it at 100m so I could hunt players on the ground but I've always assumed it automatically adjusts when you lock a target. Might be wrong though..

I’ve been running this setup in Arena Commander, but I want to note that I’m not entirely convinced it’s the best loadout-it just seemed right at the time. Here’s what I’ve been using: • Main Guns: CF 557 • Coolers: Nightfall Stealth A • Shield: Umbra Stealth A • Powerplants: 2 Lumacore Stealth A • Quantum Drive: Spicule Stealth A This setup may perform differently in a live environment, especially considering the variations in what’s available! Hope this helped!

Will power isn't a problem currently. I manage to max everything out, power to engines, power to shields and power to guns if you switch off your cooler and health thingy in your mfd's. I really beleive after all the testing, its better than the F8c, when it comes to PVP stuff! I honestly have very little time when it comes to the PVE scene!

I see the irony there! thanks for the great feedback bud! Make sure the audio aligns with what the viewers are watching!

Tell me about it :P I've come to terms with it. Definitely a worse flight model that I enjoy way less than the previous one.

Firebird is annoying against everything! But I hope thats the case. I still feel they were most likely nerf the hp! I agree with you! It's definitely a support ship!

@spatialmonkeys honestly is not very tanky like it looks strong on paper but in game a gladius can pretty much melt it pretty fast unfortunately if you look at A1 stream it was actually looking pretty unfair those size two Shields are just too weak

That's pretty interesting, I'll have to give that a try!

@spatialmonkeys it has a small shield hp so once the shield drops it gets shut down quickly then just gets eaten.

​@@harbringerf9416 I kinda got the impression you were suggesting that shields drop quickly enough for distortions to be effective. I haven’t encountered many distortion players recently, but hopefully, this change makes them more viable. I want my sentinel to shine again! Thanks for the clarification bud!

If we’re discussing bounty hunting, the Guardian should perform quite well. For other PvE loops, I’m not as experienced, so I can’t say for certain. However, I’ve heard the Ion is getting its old gun back, which should be considered a great buff to its capabilities. As for the Guardian, it’s likely to receive a nerf to its health pool soon. You might consider melting the Ion to try out the Guardian, and if the Ion improves after its update, you could always switch back. Hope this helps :)

It is a great ship!

I admit, I can rush things and make mistakes sometimes. I was indeed referring to the dampener, not the snare. I’ll add a note at the beginning of the video to clarify this mistake. Thank you for your feedback bud! I appreciate all criticism!

I haven't tried it in atmo yet :P But it is a blast to fly!

From what I've heard, QED is the combination of QID and QDMP. QID only snares, and QDMP only dampens. No ship currently has the QID, so there's no example.

Thank you for pointing that out. You’re absolutely right about the Guardian QI-it has a Quantum Dampener, not a QED. My apologies for any confusion. While it’s true that it doesn’t function as a direct replacement due to the lack of a snare, our approach to pirating often involves camping at a strategic location rather than snaring ships in transit. We deploy the dampener when targets come within range, and in our experience, this tactic has been quite effective. It’s not a direct substitute for the Mantis, but it has worked well for our operations. Thanks again for the correction!

:P its getting better! Still pretty rough around the ages though.

Appreciate the support!

Where the hell are you dude.... Thanks for the support though!

You can definitely do shred a Qi with a fury. Snub fighters vs heavy fighters will always be a super tough matchup. I've killed a few furies with that ion before :P but its so incredibly tough it can only be considered luck xD

same reason the ion got nerfed into the ground. because content creators dont know either.

It’s pretty typical of CIG to release a ship with stats that they likely didn’t intend, just to boost sales, and then adjust it later to what they initially envisioned. Despite "MY" anticipated 30% reduction in the health pool, I still believe the ship will remain competitive and be a valuable asset to have in the hangar! Hope that clarify things bud :)

I haven't honestly, but it won't stand a chance! 😔 The ares needs some cig love..

Around 2.5% numerically which looks small! But you can definitely feel the difference!

My apologies 😔😔

@@spatialmonkeys 😊 no worries. And happy holidays. 🎄

@stormlands happy holidays bud!

​@@spatialmonkeysno apologies needed, if the ship deserves a nerf, then it should absolutely get one.. and it won't be because of this one video. Thanks for the vid.. nice work.

Dont be ridiculous, CIG already know they going to nerf it when the 3rd gunship concept comes out. Why stop selling ships?

It is a great ship for sure, and very fun to fly! I don't see many complaining. The ship is killable. It's not as bad as the f7a! Just needs a tiny hp nerf (:

I won one out of six fights against the Guardian using the F8. With the F7A, I won three of my matchups against the Guardian and also secured three victories when flying the Guardian against the F7A. The matchups between the Gladius and the Guardian were evenly split at 50/50, as were the fights between the Hurricane and the Guardian. The Scorpious, however, lost every fight against the Guardian regardless of the pilot. I believe the Vanguard and Ares wouldn't stand a chance either. I hope this clarifies what you meant?

@ I’m stupid I meant to say, would you mind posting a videos?

@ thank you 🙏🏿 I’m not sure how I’ve never seen your channel before but glad I’m here

@damaddmann I'll share some stuff

I mean it has to be hp nerf. Hopefully it is reasonable! 30 percent feels fair!

I feel it !! :(

Honestly it feels good the way it is right now. Only concern is cig nerf the hp :)

The constant mispronunciation of ship names just so you get comment engagement is a hack job

Haha, you’ve caught on to me… You’re the second person to figure it out. :P The competition is tough-everyone’s churning out videos non-stop!

He's throwing on purpose! So I can make this video 😅

I like the CF 557's the most honestly!

No clue, I would check erukel. Haven't played with cannons this patch so my input would be pointless!

@ cheers for reply and thanks for sharing your experiences!

People are recommending Omnis for this reason. I agree, low time on target means you'd benefit from high burst dps.

@Cain3697 I'll definitely give it a try (:

I have been using Omniskies for PVE bounties (about 8h worth of bounty hunting) and they have felt the best out of the guns I tried so far (M7A, and Attrition 5). They just felt right. Also you can get away with running only 3 power to weapons as you only lose 1 shot in the capacitor. Huge for getting that quantum dampener online with the steep engine power requirements.

CF 557 (: you too!

I agree 💯

For now!.. until the nerf 😅

@@sirAlexander_T it's coming xD

I prefer "thicc"