Drove these and the Colorado Z71. At $50k the Chevy/GMC are a no brainer BUT I wanted to point out a major ace up the sleeve for the Frontier that is actually making this a difficult decision for me. The driving "feel". The hydraulic steering and suspension on the Frontier felt significantly better while driving. I felt numb and disconnected on the Chevy/GMC but loved everything else about them, especially the tech, interior quality, looks and performance. Since driving is what i'll be doing 99% of the time, I'm actually leaning toward the Pro4x IF I can get one at a reasonable price (around the $38k msrp) if not, I'm likely going with the z71. I'm also fortunate enough to have an M2 Comp as well when I want the luxury/performance so it's not needed in my work horse.
The PRO4X in this video is a replacement buy back trade from Nissan. Dustin's original Nissan Frontier was red. At 50 miles the motor would overheat and then go into limp mode. Nissan bought his back and he got this.
but till the options are all gone or totally unreliable...its just like the EV push.. why? I plan to never own one in my life. they are more or less useless for anyone thats not just commuting a short distance.. if you actually try to travel with them they are less than useless..@@ToddCotta
That gmc is beautiful inside and the frontier's interior is not bad at all. The price and reliability are the most important factors in this class, the frontier is a smarter choice.
All of these trucks have so much technology now and all are going Turbo 4. Time will tell if this reliability issue holds up because they are all doing it now. Thanks for watching!
So far so good. That 2.7 L turbo has 7 million miles on the road being used in the Cadillac and Silverado. So far it seems like a good truck. Thanks for watching!
In the midsize category bigger and wider isn’t always what people want. I like both trucks but I think the Nissan in Baja Storm pulls off the sand colour better. Equally equipped the Frontier is thousands less expensive and for that reason it’s a close call. Agree with the steering wheel being outdated on the Frontier. Smoother engine with the V6. Price wise this compares more with the Elevation
Great video. Can you do one comparing your new AT4 to last years Colorado ZR2 so we can see the changes in sizing (height, width, ground clearance, etc.)?
the New AT4 is not the ZR2, for that you need to wait for the AT4X, so it can be apples to apples comparison. the AT4 is the equivalent of the Z71 more less.
here is the result from TFL towing up the "Ike"... Colorado 4cyl turbo / Frontier 6cyl na box trailer weight # 6800 / 6700 payload max / max squat inches 2.5 / 2.0 speed mph 60 / 60 time minutes 7.5 / 7.9 max throttle foot to floor yes / yes fuel consumed mpg 3.6 / 4.4 engine rpm 5400 / 6000 engine rpm per cylinder 1350 / 1000 conclusion for towing equal weights and mph: Colorado: 4cyl turbo works 35% harder, 4cyl turbo consumes 22% more fuel suspension squats 25% more Nissan is the superior truck
Loved the way the Frontier drove, when we did a test drive, but the new AT4 brings ventilated seats to the table... hardest decision of my life is coming soon haha.
I work at a gmc dealership and boy does the new canyons feel much nicer than the previous gens. Very comfortable to drive in. I always criticized on how small the steering wheel is and how the steering wheel feels because it has that weird leather feel on all gmc trucks, but too me the steering wheel on the new canyons are bigger in size and the grip on it is great too. Driving gmc on a daily I feel like the steering wheel feels a little heavy or stiff while turning. Definetly not the new canyon I would get the canyon at4, however I want to wait until the new 2024 tacoma gets released and see what new specs are on those, especially if it comes with a hybrid engine.
Not apples to apples. If you have the Pro4X premium you have the utili-trac in the bed which makes tying things down easier. Also the Frontiers tailgate can sit up for doing plywood as well. Plus I prefer a NA V6 to a turbo 4. I bought a Boulder Gray Pearl Pro4X with premium package. I am happy with it. My next truck when my son gets this one will be a full size Sierra AT4.
The track system is also an accessory on the AT 4 bed. The frontier is a good truck just seem like GM listened closer to the needs and wants of their buyers. Thanks for watching!
@@ToddCotta I mean Nissan did as well. They hit just about everything asked on the Nissan message boards. The only things missed was a front locker, diesel variant, and factory lift.
I have that same truck also a 2023 Nissan Pro 4 X Boulder, gray fully loaded except for the premium package. I don’t have the leather seats and the moonroof everything else I have I like Nissan because they are more reliable than a GM my work vehicles, is a GM and when it hit 80,000 miles, it started to have all kinds of problems.
I priced them side by side and If I was driving a Chevy Z71 Colorado it would be much more even, and would still spank the Nissan on all day long. Thanks for watching!
I wanted to buy AT4 but I just found out it does not have a rear locker, only AT4X does. But Nissan has one. I still don't understand why AT4 does not offer that since it's an off-road-ready trunk. Beside that, I love everything else that AT4 offers.
If you need rear lockers. Then looks like you have a choice to make. I will tell you this, the PRO4X is NOT up to the curb appeal and interior quality of the AT4 or AT4x. If you don't care about style points, then either choice is good.
@@ToddCotta Exactly. Frontier is kinda outdated. I love the new interior of the AT4. I just don’t understand why GMC does not offer that. At least rear locker for the AT4 and both front and rear locker for the AT4X. That would be a game changer IMO.
@@ToddCotta Oh btw, you mentioned that the rear sear in AT4 has more leg room than Nissan? I sit in Nissan once, I feel like my back is sitting very straight. I know that’s normal for midsize trunk. But how’s the rear seat angle in AT4?
@@adrians8280 AT4 has the g80 auto rear locker, doesn’t let you activate it as you please, like you can in the Pro 4x. I’m torn between the Colorado Trail Boss (basically same thing as Canyon AT4), and the reason I’m leaning for Pro 4x is the ability to lock rears when I want
$20k CAD more than the frontier for the pro4x vs at4 here in Canada.not sure if worth it's worth it.....I might hold on to mine little longer until all the competition is out such as the colorado and tacomas then I'll decide whether I would keep my nissan. So far after 1.5 years it's been very reliable and enough power for daily driving but the canyon at4 interior looks amazing!
Great video Todd! New to your channel and glad I subscribed. Going to wait a bit to get one of the new trucks but you’re definitely helping me lean towards the canyon.
Nissan should put the 5.6 v8 from the titan in the frontier as an optional engine. Would be a simple matter for the factory and instantly give the truck something to stand out in this class.
I just bought a 2023 Nissan frontier SV, I like it for its simplicity and I don’t go off reading and I don’t need to haul more than 3 tons so it works for me. I also wanted a natural aspirating V6 engine and Nissan has the best hp for that, I do gotta say though the new Colorado and canyons are nice especially with the more powerful hp and torque. GM has upped their game and I don’t know if Toyota will reach those power train numbers with a turbo engine ( it will be close) but I think it will go more towards fuel efficiency with a hybrid. Although they could go compact for fuel efficiency and mid size for power who knows either way GM set the bench mark for mid size trucks.
@@ToddCotta yeah that’s fine and thank you, I’m just being honest. I like all the midsized trucks but what GM did is really impressive and I’m excited for what is to come with these midsize trucks now that GM has set the tone and all the other midsize trucks are going to try and reach its level in power train.
I had a 2015 Nissan Frontier PRO4X, I drove all way from Arizona to Michigan a couple times, never had an issue on snow, felt very solid on snow even my company's truck 2016 Ram 4x4 felt a little of sliding on the back on snow, not in the Frontier. Great truck, I had to sold it but definitely will buy another Nissan.
Hey that is cool! Do me a favor, ship me the correct instrument cluster that they neglected to put in my dash. At this price it should have come with the full display that comes in the Denali. That is about the only thing I can be grumpy about! Keep up the good work!
I have an AT4 coming. Sterling Metallic with the tech package, safety package, and tow package. With destination fee and before taxes is 52k. I had to order it because you can't find one in stock anywhere near me.
It is crazy how rare these trucks are. It is like they can't keep up with the demand. Everything is screwy right now in the auto industry. Thanks for commenting.
Just bought a 2024 frontier pro4x. I occasionally pull our boat that weighs 4500 lbs dry. I couldn't see pulling that boat WITH A 4CYL!! BEST MILEAGE TO DATE WAS 26.9 MPG!! I hope that continues, but it only has 3500 miles on it
You Siense? A lot of self proclaimed scientists the last 3 years 😂 face it that is why Nissan sold 3 titans last year because they CANNOT play with the big boys..
Holy cow that AT4 locked in an flew out of there. I'm sure you can see I was pretty excited at the end. We only did it ONE TIME. Didn't want to make it an exhibition. Thanks for watching!
Best comparison video that I've seen so far. I can tell you I was leaning toward the Nissan but after your review and comments I may have to relook at the GMC. 2024 will be an interesting year as Ford ,Honda and Toyota are refreshing their midsize pickups, and from what I hear, possibly Nissan doing a refresh to keep up. I think the NA engine in the Nissan is a big plus since GM hasn't had a good history with their turbo engines. However it seems the market and manufacturers are leaning toward the 4 cyl turbo charged offerings in this category. I wished the Frontier would come out lifted from the factory, but I know I can add 1.5" to it with an aftermarket kit that's reasonably priced.
Thank you for watching! Just know that that 2.7 l engine is in all of the Silverado trucks. Also. Something like 7 million miles has been tested on that engine now. But both are great trucks and I don't think Nissan's going to continue with that V6 looking at the trends in the truck market.
GM has a hot product! I ordered a colorado zr2 and can't wait for it to arrive! As of right now, the new midsize truck king are these new canyons/colorados. Let's see how toyota and ford will respond! Competition is good for consumers!
Did you get a delivery time when you ordered? I’m thinking about ordering a zr2 in the next few weeks and wondered how long it would take to receive it.
I didn't order mine. It was a spec truck ordered by the dealership. They don't do markups, so maybe GM was giving then first allocation. Yes, GM stopped sending out production dates to the buyers who ordered, probably to stop the avalanche of contact requests when times change. Thanks for the question!
@Jeff Hotaling I ordered early March 2023. My production week was 04/14. I am currently waiting on a call back from my sales guy to see if any new updates or changes have happened (even push back dates). I ordered from a dealership here in Central fl and they sell at msrp.
Color is to the eye of the beholder. Jeep, Toyota, Nissan and GM have all tried to jump on the "We have tan" wagon. All are special in their own way. Thanks for the comment.
GM has their new bronze I think it is that is exactly what it says it is that I think I like more than the Nissan Baja storm. & I really like Nissans Baja storm.
Some people like simple, but in all regards there is the same technology, the difference is how it is presented in the cab out and executed in the vehicle. Thanks for commenting!
The funny thing is, all of the technology that is on the new Canyon has been in the Silverado/Sierra and Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade for decades. and as for technology, the PRO4X has all the same technology as the GMC/Chevy trucks. Adaptive Cruise, Lane Warning Departure and everything else. All of the vehicles out there today have too many devices. Thanks for the comment!
@@endlessnameless3996 if you can wait, I’d just hold off for another 5 months or so and see how the new Tacoma and Ranger look. Just so you have every brand’s refresh on the market. You’d have to wait longer for the TRD Pro though.
Call me crazy but I've complained about everything being touch screen for so long I'm in love with the old school vibes of the Frontier, may buy a new 2024 Hardbody Edition
The bigger and taller the midsizers, the more appealing they are. Why? Because they are now resembling the full sizers of the 90s but with better gas mileage and all the new techy things. Practicality has become in style again with all these aircraft carriers out there...
That's why the next generation of Ridgeline (which just got bigger) Santa Fe, and Maverick are the next small truck. If this Canyon was the same size as my 1998 S10, I would not have purchased it and went to a larger truck like the Sierra. All vehicles get bigger because they want to beat their competitors. Here is a prediction the new 2024 Tacoma will be larger than the outgoing model. That is just how the industry works. Thanks for your comment!
@Todd Cotta Oh I hope so; it better be bigger, sharper lines, non-circular vents, better seating position and a tranny that doesn't hunt for gears or I'm copying you lol. I hate that that big ugly rectangle of a grill is growing on me. Hey were you in 2 or 4wd for that launch?
The 2 inch stock lift kit makes the GMC look a little better. If Nissan offered the 2 inch stock lift kit in the PRO4X without a cost increase it would be the true winner for sure.
Congrats on the new truck, GM did a great job on the new model. I recommend the new TFL Gauntlet video, they test out the new Colorado. Have Pro4x my self
Good review Beautiful Truck BUT should we take a risk on a GM 4banger turbo over Toyota or Honda for long term reliability and their record of 200k miles or more??? and chance spending 50k (shopping mid-size currently drive a 2010 F150 with 165k flawless miles)
People can say the same thing about your 2010 F-150. Cuz I've never seen a Ford F-150 ever last of that many miles before. Totally breaking down. I don't concern myself too much with large mileage numbers because I never keep trucks that long. I move on to the next one. But I would still say that each truck is really good in its own right whether it's Toyota, Honda, Ford, or Chevy. Blanket statements about the quality of vehicles doesn't age well these days. Thanks for watching.
It's interesting to watch, especially in retrospect, knowing what later experiences you had with Canyon. I think both trucks are not the ideal place for rear passengers. Perhaps the Canyon is better at this (airflow and space), but mid-size trucks are not made for this - no one (except possibly children) will miss a ride in the backseat. I like the previous version of the Canyon better - maybe it was outdated, maybe bland, but the new one - I feel like this - is more of a computer on wheels than a truck. But for someone upgrading from a larger truck, the Canyon may be just the right size. Of the two (Canyon and Frontier), I would choose the Frontier, but the extended cab version (Canyon no longer offers it) for myself and my partner, and to transport more people, I would probably choose something other than a mid-size truck. In the new version of Frontier, I don't like the hood raised too high at the front, which limits visibility. Everything else is great including the sound of the engine, although the 4.0 engine has an even nicer sound, but they don't offer it anymore.
Both are great trucks. Price wise, the Frontier is more affordable (dealers work with you on price) and I prefer the adjustable bed rails over fixed points. Off road wise the Canyon is better though I prefer the manual locker in the Nissan over the GM G80. Reliability wise I give the nod to Nissan. I prefer the GM’s technology but there can be a lot of glitches with that technology. Again both are great and have their advantages.
I think short unfit drives will have issues getting in and out of Canyon's/TB/ZR2. My father in-law in his late 70s really struggled getting in my TB compared to his Sierra.
The trouble is to put a side step on these little trucks is difficult because either they hang too low or they are only 2 inches lower than the door threshold. My last Colorado had my pants all worn out at my calves because stepping over them every time I exited the trucks. These smaller trucks are weird that way. Thanks for watching!
I understand people want everything to be digital and all futuristic but the thing is that stuff breaks i dont want to have to adjust my ac by going in a touch screen and having to search through it. I just want a good truck that works and the frontier would be my choice especially when it comes to the aspirated v6.
I needed a 6' box.......GM failed to deliver here so I had no choice but to disqualify GM in the final decision. Went with the Frontier SV 4X4 and have no regrets.
A close friend of mine had to bail early (20k miles) on a previous gen Colorado due to transmission issues that the dealer couldnt fix. He bought a TRD pro Taco. The gm was a better truck in so many ways, but mechanically flawed. This was even pre COVID.
Some trucks are just doomed from the start. Doesn't matter the brand. The PRO4X in this video was the 2nd truck for this guy, he had to turn in his last truck due to the motor overheating and shutting down randomly. Nissan took the truck back before lemon law. So far this one is operating fine. Thanks for commenting!
The electronics sadly, will be the downfall of the GMC, plus the 8 speed is flawed. My brother-in-law has a Cadillac that has spent more time in the dealership than driving with constant electronic gremlins. I personally, will hopefully be getting a Frontier. Maybe next year. I hope Nissan keeps this truck fresh and doesn't go as long without updating it.
Gremlins are not exclusive to GM, Ford and Chrysler. This was not Dustin's first 2023 Frontier. The first one was red and it overheated several times and the dealer could not figure out what was going on. It was a buy-back by Nissan and they chose to get this PRO4X.
I've owned just about every brand but somehow seem to get the worst luck with everyone. My 2020 Ram(lease thank God)the rear window is leaking water, the passenger side exhaust manifold is leaking too. My wife's 1st Traverse(current body style)was in the dealership more times than I can count. We decided to punish ourselves and went with another Traverse (2021)and this one luckily has had no problems yet....
The entire auto industry is evolving so quickly that problems will happen. My fear with this new Toyota Tacoma, there is so much new stuff and technology it will suffer the same consequences. Time will tell. Thanks for the comment.
Comments online always make me chuckle. Yes the host of this video has a bias, but we see that in a lot of videos where the hosts include their own personal vehicle. Both of these trucks are killer vehicles and will do 99% of anything anyone would ever need to do. Is there a better truck? Yes, the Canyon is a better truck. It's that simple. But does "better" mean its the only choice? Or that somehow the Nissan is bad? No, they're both incredible. One might be better but that doesn't mean the other is any less ideal for someone wanting to buy a midsize truck. You literally can't go wrong with either.
I hear ya! I send plenty of good things about the Nissan. I liked the ride, the acceleration and the storage under the back seat. I prefer refinement and the interior of the Nissan was just not up to snuff with the GMC. I really enjoyed your perspective.
I challenge you to point out 3 things the Nissan does better.... For real it's tough for Todd because it's a friend's truck and doesn't want to downplay their purchase, but at the same time he wants to give an honest review. Maverick don't be that guy..
I stated while I was driving the Frontier, smooth ride, good acceleration and comfortable. Does better? Really there is NOTHING the Nissan does better, even Dustin admitted that. Using old parts like the AC and steering wheel. bad button placement. Nissan has better parts in their bin at the factory, but chose to recycle old ones. Even the bed pales in comparison to the GMC. Thanks for the observation.
Todd had to either be "that guy" or give a dishonest review. The truth seemed apparent: in pretty much every category the AT4 is a superior product. Doesn't mean the Nissan isn't a nice truck that would work well for many folks. And Todd gave it props for the ride, backseat legroom, and well, that's about it :-)
Honestly I think the GMC looks better and is more refined. I would prefer the Nissan if I need to do truck stuff. The reliability is better in the Nissan. Also the steps can be removed from the rock rails on the Nissan to save your calves. When I priced both last week the GMC was $56,000 the Nissan was $50,000.
The tie down system in the Frontier is the best in the segment IF you get the convenience package with the rails. If it's a base of the model it's crap.
There are similar aftermarket rail kits that are just like the ones found on the Frontier. And the rail kit is an addon not standard equipment. All Canyon/Colorado trucks have 8 standard tie downs and holes to easily mount the load rails. Thanks for commenting!
@@ToddCotta You're spending far less money on a Pro4 with the package than this Canyon, so that doesn't really matter, since we are talking about value.
I just saw a review on a PRO4X on youtube that was a $750 less than my truck with the same options. I don't know where people are saying that Nissan Frontiers are cheaper, they can be optioned up to $50k very easily.
I’ve watched a couple of your videos. I enjoy them and I wanted to see about this cargo tray. Not sure what it cost but it had to be worth it after using it to put your revolver cover on!
It sure made it easier!!!!!!! $1500 is a lot, but I have used it five times in the first three weeks of owning my truck. I will never have a truck without one ever again. Thanks for commenting!
That GMC is bad ass but the reliability with the turbo on a 4 banger on a truck is worrisome just because its fast does not mean it is strong BIG DIFFRENCE Nissan all the way for reliability and price.
This is not the best time to be asking that question because they're all changing so fast. GM does not offer any 6 ft beds anymore in the small trucks. But the new ranger is unknown. The new Tacoma is unknown and I think you can get a six foot bed in the Nissan. But with all the things changing so fast it's hard to determine what's coming up.
@@ToddCotta yeah, I know. Bad move on GMs part. Ford is making 24 Ranger with 6' supposedly. Toyota wouldn't dare drop theirs. Many contractors use them (exterminators, etc). Thanks for responding. +1, btw.
Hello and Thank you for the great videos you post about the new 2023 AT4... any chance you can do a video comparing the 2nd gen CAnyon AT4 (2021-2022) to the new ? in a head-to-head review? I'm sure you can find a happy 2021-2022 GMC Canyon AT4 owner out here. I am the happy owner of a 2021 GMC Canyon AT4, but would love a comparison to help me and others decide if upgrading to the new model is worth it.
Frontier , I really like the simplicity of the interior, might not be your case . Simple electronic, old fashion buttons and digital numbers. I like the truck a lot . I would like the put the same interior in the AT4, cause I prefer the AT4. But Nissan is like the old Tacoma, excellent performer, simple and reliable. But in 2024, in few weeks îll give a chance to the AT4 for few years.
My personality type wants all the tech stuff, i get it. Did you see the new Pro-4X is priced the same in the top trim as the AT4 now. Go figure, the are increasing their prices too. Thanks for watching!
@@ToddCotta Thanks for taking the time to answer. I do understand your point. For the same price, its a no brainer, anyway for me. Im in the mid 50 yrs old, îm getting lost in all the electronic/ infotainment systems, I dont even listen the radio much, as there adds are annoying me. Im waiting the phone from the gmc dealer for the AT4 2025 to place the order. They told me they can place the order now but cant provide the price for 2025, thats bugging me. I can of course wait few month, I have the Rav4 Trail 2023, Since I got an offgrid cabin, a small pick-up will better suit me. cheers !
So on the other AT4, you mentioned they got different packages. What packages were they? Or are you going to make a video about theirs too and compare the different packages? And wow that AT4 really moves!
@@ToddCotta I imagine you'd take the leather over the cortec/cloth combo, but on that base AT4 interior, was it still good for most people? Is the cloth soft? or is it something to skip and always get the leather interior on?
Funny how you skipped the zero gravity far more comfortable nissan seats or mention 12 to 15 years buttons & knobs will work fine as the nissan doesnt need google not being a laptop on wheels or how that turbo motor will expire long before the nissan hits 300k plus miles just saying i prefer a tough truck that'll last
I mean it's all opinion. If you like trucks that have old technology then Nissan's fine. But if you want the latest technology and Google maps and all those things, then you probably should stick with the newer model trucks.
The one thing they Didn't tell you is There is about a ten thousand dollar difference in the price of those two trucks with the GMC being ten thousand dollars higher.
I can build the same truck with more options to make the price within $1k. Adding leather, and some other options makes it $48500. I didn't have a choice in the truck, it was what was there. One thing is true, same motor, same dash and doors, same suspension. That is what we were looking at. Thanks for watching!
The Canyon is absolutely beautiful, blows the frontier out of the water in terms of comfort and ease of use. But I think in the long run, the frontier’s v6 will prove to be a more reliable engine than GMC’s v4 turbo. There’s definitely 2 trains of thought here. Nissan: Tried and true, easy to repair GMC: Latest and greatest, best there is to offer
Would be great to see them side by side from a size perspective and compare interior space - I had been thinking about a ranger but it looks like GMC has really raised the bar. Really nice looking truck you have there!
I believe the GMC is much nicer, with more features. However Nissan takes the typical Japanese mindset of keeping it simple therefor making it more reliable and dependable. Time will tell……
I never said it was. I explained in the video that the truck was not loaded but could be optioned up to $50k. But the interior does not change when you move up the levels. That was the interior for all of the trucks which in our opinion was woefully inferior to the AT4 and even the Z71 trucks. Thanks for commenting!
The Nissan is a really good truck. It would be an amazing awesome truck in 2015, but not in 2023. Even though it is all new, it feels old. GM has brough a winner to the game. Thanks for watching!
Turbo 4 will always usually take you on the line. But honestly they both have about the same HP. But the Nissan will outlast that turbo 4 easily. Rather have that in a midsize pickup.
Funny thing is his previous '22 Frontier was lemon law buy back because of the motor. These days the motors in these trucks are all about the same, look at the problems Toyota Tundra is having with all of their motors blowing up. Nothing is what it seems when it comes to quality anymore. Thanks for commenting!
Tou can get a loaded Pro4x frontier for 44k right now, so that is way cheaper. It also will have the utilitrac rails in the bed with adjustable anchors. Buy the Nissan and only visit the dealer for oil changes, buy the GMC and become good friends with the dealer as you will spend a lot of time together !
By the name on your profile I can see you are a Nismo fan! Did you know that Dustin's truck in the video was the second Frontier he has owned in the past six months? His first one was factory buy back because it overheated after driving 25 miles and they could not fix the problem. Nissan bought it back before lemon law attorneys got involved. They got the PRO4X after being paid off by Nissan. Please be careful making blanket statements about manufacturers. It's not a good look. Thanks for watching!
@@ToddCotta My comment comes from owning many cars over the years and working at dealerships. Your comparison came off as an ad for GMC - time will tell if it's any good. My opinion is it will not. How about updating videos every 5000 miles ?
Wonder how far you had to look for a frontier without a bedliner or the utility track system. Went to 4 different nissan dealers and did not find one without a liner. plus the canyon is loaded the frontier is not. plus I didnt know gm found a new way for #s to look on a dashboard. I own a loaded pro4x and it was still thousands cheaper. plus I dont think you should do a review when you own one of them. Turbo long term I dont know.
I specifically stated that this was not the loaded PRO4X which is only $2-3000 less than GMC. But it has same dash and motor as the loaded truck. I had plenty of good things to say about the Nissan, but when it comes to refinement, cabin size is bigger in Pro4X but even the top Pro4X does not compete with the styling inside or outside of the Canyon. Thanks for watching!
They both have there strong and weak points, guess depends what you need it to do ... but I have to admit even in current market price point you can find decent fullsize trucks that offer far more capability in about same mpg ...
I said that in the video, but you can build a $46k AT4 and $46K Frontier. So it is not that simple. Plainly stated, the top line of the Nissan does not have an interior nearly as nice as the base model GMC Canyon Elevation. Nissan is just not as refined as the Canyon. Thanks for watching!
GMC more power, less life, and more $ overtime. Nissan has better suspension and a 2.5 inch lift costs hardly anything. I m not lured in by shiny things . I want longevity and dependability, I’ll stay with my Nissan. I’d rather by an American truck, but I don’t like being broke down either.
I don't know what everybody is talking about. Jap is good, USA is junk. Those are generalizations that I can't abide. Why are we still thinking like it is 1980 and Honda has just arrive with the new Accord. Maybe then it would be a general truth, but today all cars are about the same. Thanks for watching!
I come a family full of mechanics. I guarantee you that little turbo will not out last the naturally aspirated V6. My last truck was a F250 7.3 diesel. It was a great truck. Yes there are things American car builders do better, but not in this realm and they never have. When I need a diesel I’ll by American again. When I need a small gas saver I’m buying Toyota or Nissan. Not a fan of Honda but that just a preference.
I own that very same frontier and color.. nissan updated the truck but they didn't update it. I feel nissan should do a nismo trim To compete with AT4, ZR2, and Tacoma I dont think it was a fair assessment.. at4 is wayyy above that pro 4x trim level
Still Nissan has not embraced the US market by making luxury trucks, very similar to Tacoma. Basic interiors. But prices are similar. I was going on price for what you get, not necessarily 1 for 1 comparison. Even the Frontier at the same price point still has same interior and if looks more like a work truck not family vehicle. Thanks for the comment!
Realistically, at what point is something too much. The GMC is more of a luxury vehicle and most people buying it will probably never leave the payment. The Frontier, while much more basic, actually seems like a truck. They focused on the important things and reduced their price by not having all the little luxuries. I would assume the frontier will probably last a lot longer because of this as well.
Nissan has a great truck but the new GM twins show that it is already is need of a technology update. I love the Nissan exterior design and the look of the interior but the infotainment system graphics are dated and the camera quality is poor. Plus Nissan needs a trim to compete with the AT4X and ZR2. Something next level.
If they improved engine build and mechanics it could be capable of running a factory supercharger to compete.. but Nissan doesn't want to lead the pack. Still falls short in every other area. Kind of like the Chicago Cubs.. wait until next year lol😂
I guess they want to keep the Frontier in last place for sales. Go big or go home is what is needed to keep interest in a brand. The Titan and Frontier are the poorest selling trucks on the market because of their bland styling and lack of technology and power. You would think at least they would try to dethrone the Tacoma, but no, just throw old parts in a new truck and call it all new. I guess Nissan likes last place.
@@ToddCotta actually you're wrong about the sales, the canyon was in last place last year with only 27,000 trucks sold, frontier was tied with the gladiator at 76,000 and sold more than the ridgeline and ranger, and frontier sales in the last 2 years are up 25.5% on average. Say again how nissan has poor sales and is in last place. Might want to get your facts straight if you're gonna be a "content creator" and not just make up BS.
Yes 76k Gladiators were sold. But what people refuse to acknowledge is the Canyon is an upscale Colorado under the GM Banner. 117,016 of these trucks were sold in 2022. Same with the Sierra and Silverado, the same trucks in the same factory but Ford always splits the numbers when GM spanks them every year in total trucks sold. Thanks for commenting.
I’ll take the Nissan
Great choice! It's an excellent truck. Thanks for watching
the bias here is absolutely crazy here 😂
I love my truck. Next review is with a Ford Ranger Tremor. Its going to be interesting.
Drove these and the Colorado Z71. At $50k the Chevy/GMC are a no brainer BUT I wanted to point out a major ace up the sleeve for the Frontier that is actually making this a difficult decision for me. The driving "feel". The hydraulic steering and suspension on the Frontier felt significantly better while driving. I felt numb and disconnected on the Chevy/GMC but loved everything else about them, especially the tech, interior quality, looks and performance. Since driving is what i'll be doing 99% of the time, I'm actually leaning toward the Pro4x IF I can get one at a reasonable price (around the $38k msrp) if not, I'm likely going with the z71. I'm also fortunate enough to have an M2 Comp as well when I want the luxury/performance so it's not needed in my work horse.
The PRO4X in this video is a replacement buy back trade from Nissan. Dustin's original Nissan Frontier was red. At 50 miles the motor would overheat and then go into limp mode. Nissan bought his back and he got this.
I test drove both. Went with the trail boss and holy cow is it super effective on the road but also up in the mountains of colorado
I’ll take the v6 no turbos and the hydraulic steering.
Looks like those days are gone. All cars and trucks are moving towards smaller and stronger. Thanks for watching!
but till the options are all gone or totally unreliable...its just like the EV push.. why? I plan to never own one in my life. they are more or less useless for anyone thats not just commuting a short distance.. if you actually try to travel with them they are less than useless..@@ToddCotta
"ARE YOU IN DRIVE"!!!!!!! OMG, that voice. She must be a real joy at home.
My daughter was excited. Dustin started the first race in park. She was having fun. Thanks for watching!
That gmc is beautiful inside and the frontier's interior is not bad at all. The price and reliability are the most important factors in this class, the frontier is a smarter choice.
All of these trucks have so much technology now and all are going Turbo 4. Time will tell if this reliability issue holds up because they are all doing it now.
Thanks for watching!
Im a 23 Pro4x owner but I must admit the new canyon is an awesome beast but I would wait atleast a year to buy it.
So far so good. That 2.7 L turbo has 7 million miles on the road being used in the Cadillac and Silverado. So far it seems like a good truck. Thanks for watching!
In the midsize category bigger and wider isn’t always what people want. I like both trucks but I think the Nissan in Baja Storm pulls off the sand colour better. Equally equipped the Frontier is thousands less expensive and for that reason it’s a close call. Agree with the steering wheel being outdated on the Frontier. Smoother engine with the V6. Price wise this compares more with the Elevation
I actually built one on the Nissan website and it was $49800. That was only $250 cheaper than my truck. Thanks for commenting!
@@ToddCotta mine was 48k out the door
Great video. Can you do one comparing your new AT4 to last years Colorado ZR2 so we can see the changes in sizing (height, width, ground clearance, etc.)?
Let me see if I can find a 2022 AT4 and put them side by side. Show how they have changed. Thanks for the request.
the New AT4 is not the ZR2, for that you need to wait for the AT4X, so it can be apples to apples comparison. the AT4 is the equivalent of the Z71 more less.
@@jmcastaneda1974 ATX4 isn't the zr2 either.
here is the result from TFL towing up the "Ike"...
Colorado 4cyl turbo / Frontier 6cyl na
box trailer weight # 6800 / 6700
payload max / max
squat inches 2.5 / 2.0
speed mph 60 / 60
time minutes 7.5 / 7.9
max throttle foot to floor yes / yes
fuel consumed mpg 3.6 / 4.4
engine rpm 5400 / 6000
engine rpm per cylinder 1350 / 1000
conclusion for towing equal weights and mph:
Colorado:
4cyl turbo works 35% harder,
4cyl turbo consumes 22% more fuel
suspension squats 25% more
Nissan is the superior truck
Thanks for commenting!
but the colorado can tow 7700 lbs, if not in the ZR2, where the max for the pro-4x is only 6400
@@bean3015 yes but let see how long the turbo will last towing at max
Frontier>>>>>>>>>>>. It will still be on the road five years from now.
Thanks for commenting!
That launch was amazing. Every video we learn more about the new GMC Canyon AT4. Lots of great information on your channel.
Thanks for the kind words!
Loved the way the Frontier drove, when we did a test drive, but the new AT4 brings ventilated seats to the table... hardest decision of my life is coming soon haha.
Either truck is great... But it's all about what you want. A basic truck or a newer style with more options. Thanks for watching!
I work at a gmc dealership and boy does the new canyons feel much nicer than the previous gens. Very comfortable to drive in. I always criticized on how small the steering wheel is and how the steering wheel feels because it has that weird leather feel on all gmc trucks, but too me the steering wheel on the new canyons are bigger in size and the grip on it is great too. Driving gmc on a daily I feel like the steering wheel feels a little heavy or stiff while turning. Definetly not the new canyon I would get the canyon at4, however I want to wait until the new 2024 tacoma gets released and see what new specs are on those, especially if it comes with a hybrid engine.
That new Taco better be awesome to topple this AT4. I am sure Toyota will pull all of the stops. Thanks for commenting!
If I didn’t get a 2023 Tacoma i’d be picking up the new Canyon. Best new truck on the market. Congratulations on your purchase.
That is a real compliment!!! Thanks!
Hope you got a good deal on that '23 since the Taco will be refreshed for '24!
You made a much smarter choice, trust me.
@@MeliorIlle Toyota or Nissan will be on the road long after the GM 4banger turbo blows!!!
Not apples to apples. If you have the Pro4X premium you have the utili-trac in the bed which makes tying things down easier. Also the Frontiers tailgate can sit up for doing plywood as well. Plus I prefer a NA V6 to a turbo 4. I bought a Boulder Gray Pearl Pro4X with premium package. I am happy with it. My next truck when my son gets this one will be a full size Sierra AT4.
The track system is also an accessory on the AT 4 bed. The frontier is a good truck just seem like GM listened closer to the needs and wants of their buyers. Thanks for watching!
@@ToddCotta I mean Nissan did as well. They hit just about everything asked on the Nissan message boards. The only things missed was a front locker, diesel variant, and factory lift.
Is there a diesel model in US market?
@The Warren's the Frontier doesn't have ventilated seats.
I have that same truck also a 2023 Nissan Pro 4 X Boulder, gray fully loaded except for the premium package. I don’t have the leather seats and the moonroof everything else I have I like Nissan because they are more reliable than a GM my work vehicles, is a GM and when it hit 80,000 miles, it started to have all kinds of problems.
Great video, but the pricing is not Apples to Apples, the AT4 is a lot more expensive than the Nissan.
I priced them side by side and If I was driving a Chevy Z71 Colorado it would be much more even, and would still spank the Nissan on all day long. Thanks for watching!
I wanted to buy AT4 but I just found out it does not have a rear locker, only AT4X does. But Nissan has one. I still don't understand why AT4 does not offer that since it's an off-road-ready trunk. Beside that, I love everything else that AT4 offers.
If you need rear lockers. Then looks like you have a choice to make. I will tell you this, the PRO4X is NOT up to the curb appeal and interior quality of the AT4 or AT4x. If you don't care about style points, then either choice is good.
@@ToddCotta Exactly. Frontier is kinda outdated. I love the new interior of the AT4. I just don’t understand why GMC does not offer that. At least rear locker for the AT4 and both front and rear locker for the AT4X. That would be a game changer IMO.
@@ToddCotta Oh btw, you mentioned that the rear sear in AT4 has more leg room than Nissan? I sit in Nissan once, I feel like my back is sitting very straight. I know that’s normal for midsize trunk. But how’s the rear seat angle in AT4?
@@elginwang1572The AT4 does have a rear locker
@@adrians8280 AT4 has the g80 auto rear locker, doesn’t let you activate it as you please, like you can in the Pro 4x. I’m torn between the Colorado Trail Boss (basically same thing as Canyon AT4), and the reason I’m leaning for Pro 4x is the ability to lock rears when I want
$20k CAD more than the frontier for the pro4x vs at4 here in Canada.not sure if worth it's worth it.....I might hold on to mine little longer until all the competition is out such as the colorado and tacomas then I'll decide whether I would keep my nissan. So far after 1.5 years it's been very reliable and enough power for daily driving but the canyon at4 interior looks amazing!
Wow that is a lot. The Nissan is a great truck. Thanks for watching!
I do like the Nissan, but wow the AT4 really is a next generation pickup. Great review.
They definitely upped the game with this truck. Thanks for watching!
Unless you drive one back to back with the Frontier. It was a big let down.
love the energy right off the bat with this video. regardless of the actual review
Thank you! We had a ton of fun!
Great video Todd! New to your channel and glad I subscribed. Going to wait a bit to get one of the new trucks but you’re definitely helping me lean towards the canyon.
Thanks for the sub!!!
Nissan should put the 5.6 v8 from the titan in the frontier as an optional engine. Would be a simple matter for the factory and instantly give the truck something to stand out in this class.
Oh heck yeah. I'd like to see the Baby Duramax 3.0 in the AT4. Thanks for commenting!
I just bought a 2023 Nissan frontier SV, I like it for its simplicity and I don’t go off reading and I don’t need to haul more than 3 tons so it works for me. I also wanted a natural aspirating V6 engine and Nissan has the best hp for that, I do gotta say though the new Colorado and canyons are nice especially with the more powerful hp and torque. GM has upped their game and I don’t know if Toyota will reach those power train numbers with a turbo engine ( it will be close) but I think it will go more towards fuel efficiency with a hybrid. Although they could go compact for fuel efficiency and mid size for power who knows either way GM set the bench mark for mid size trucks.
Can I just read this comment in to my RUclips channel. Best comment of the day.
@@ToddCotta yeah that’s fine and thank you, I’m just being honest. I like all the midsized trucks but what GM did is really impressive and I’m excited for what is to come with these midsize trucks now that GM has set the tone and all the other midsize trucks are going to try and reach its level in power train.
Have a great day!
GREAT VIDEO i have a 22 GMC CANYON and I can tell first hand in the midsize truck, in my opinion nobody beats GMC
I love this truck. Thanks for watching!
I had a 2015 Nissan Frontier PRO4X, I drove all way from Arizona to Michigan a couple times, never had an issue on snow, felt very solid on snow even my company's truck 2016 Ram 4x4 felt a little of sliding on the back on snow, not in the Frontier. Great truck, I had to sold it but definitely will buy another Nissan.
Thanks for sharing! The new 2025 Pro-4x is coming and it looks really good!
Awesome. I like both trucks, but definitely prefer the new colorado, canyon. If not them I'd take the frontier over all the rest.
Both are very good trucks. And will attract different kinds of buyers. Thanks for watching!
I build the Colorado and Canyon! It's good to see your enjoying the vehicle. Thanks for buying a GM vehicle! 😊
Hey that is cool! Do me a favor, ship me the correct instrument cluster that they neglected to put in my dash. At this price it should have come with the full display that comes in the Denali. That is about the only thing I can be grumpy about! Keep up the good work!
@@ToddCotta I'll bring it to their attention! Thank you lol. And keep up the videos
Thanks!!!!! Have a great day! Be safe in there!
Is it possible to build a six- foot bed as an option for 2024+ Canyon and Colorado?
I have an AT4 coming. Sterling Metallic with the tech package, safety package, and tow package. With destination fee and before taxes is 52k. I had to order it because you can't find one in stock anywhere near me.
It is crazy how rare these trucks are. It is like they can't keep up with the demand. Everything is screwy right now in the auto industry. Thanks for commenting.
Just bought a 2024 frontier pro4x. I occasionally pull our boat that weighs 4500 lbs dry. I couldn't see pulling that boat WITH A 4CYL!! BEST MILEAGE TO DATE WAS 26.9 MPG!! I hope that continues, but it only has 3500 miles on it
Hope you enjoy it! The 26.9 mpg is great!
The Canyon is better but I just went GMC'S site and a similar feature to feature breakdown the AT4 comes in at just under 52k(51950)...PRO4X IS 47k.
So roughly 10% more with EVERYTHING included. Not bad for how much more you get with the GMC! Thanks for commenting!
My 2022 Pro4X is fully loaded and I paid MSRP of $44,005
Yes, the economy and inflation has really done a job on prices in the truck market. Thanks for commenting.
The Nissan will outlast the gmc
OK! Thanks for commenting!
Yep. Gm is more worried about electronic gimmicks vs quality.
Only time will tell
You Siense? A lot of self proclaimed scientists the last 3 years 😂 face it that is why Nissan sold 3 titans last year because they CANNOT play with the big boys..
Yep!
Awesome videos. What kind of tire set you have and the size? Are they optional?
P265/65R18 These are the Goodyear Wranglers that came from the factory. Thanks for watching!
Nissan Frontier is way better
It's a really good truck. Thanks for watching!
That was a fun vid to watch! Hearing the turbo spool up on the launch was sweet!
Holy cow that AT4 locked in an flew out of there. I'm sure you can see I was pretty excited at the end. We only did it ONE TIME. Didn't want to make it an exhibition. Thanks for watching!
@@ToddCotta , thanks also for keeping some of us entertain while we await our Canyon delivery. It help ease the pain. 😅
Put the 2k difference on the Nissan & invest it on the upgraded shocks significantly improving the ride both on & off
Yeah but then now the 2025s are the same price as the GMCs and the Chevys. I do like the new book of 2025s though.
You’re getting more comfortable! As the video goes on you really warm up. Keep it up! Nice truck as well
Thank you! This was my first real truck review and had a ton of fun doing it. Thanks for the kind words.
Does your tailgate storage leak? Going through the carwash mine took on water.
A little bit does get in. Not totally sealed. Maybe a larger gasket?
Great job guys I love it 😁👍
Glad you liked it. Our first real head to head and I think it came out ok.
Best comparison video that I've seen so far. I can tell you I was leaning toward the Nissan but after your review and comments I may have to relook at the GMC. 2024 will be an interesting year as Ford ,Honda and Toyota are refreshing their midsize pickups, and from what I hear, possibly Nissan doing a refresh to keep up. I think the NA engine in the Nissan is a big plus since GM hasn't had a good history with their turbo engines. However it seems the market and manufacturers are leaning toward the 4 cyl turbo charged offerings in this category. I wished the Frontier would come out lifted from the factory, but I know I can add 1.5" to it with an aftermarket kit that's reasonably priced.
Thank you for watching! Just know that that 2.7 l engine is in all of the Silverado trucks. Also. Something like 7 million miles has been tested on that engine now. But both are great trucks and I don't think Nissan's going to continue with that V6 looking at the trends in the truck market.
I like the simplicity of the Frontier. And it has that V6.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for watching!
GM has a hot product! I ordered a colorado zr2 and can't wait for it to arrive! As of right now, the new midsize truck king are these new canyons/colorados.
Let's see how toyota and ford will respond! Competition is good for consumers!
Yep it's about to get crazy! Thanks for watching!
Did you get a delivery time when you ordered? I’m thinking about ordering a zr2 in the next few weeks and wondered how long it would take to receive it.
I didn't order mine. It was a spec truck ordered by the dealership. They don't do markups, so maybe GM was giving then first allocation. Yes, GM stopped sending out production dates to the buyers who ordered, probably to stop the avalanche of contact requests when times change. Thanks for the question!
@Jeff Hotaling I ordered early March 2023. My production week was 04/14.
I am currently waiting on a call back from my sales guy to see if any new updates or changes have happened (even push back dates). I ordered from a dealership here in Central fl and they sell at msrp.
Canyon kills the Frontier. Only thing I like better about Frontier is color .I like the chocolate brown color a bit better
Color is to the eye of the beholder. Jeep, Toyota, Nissan and GM have all tried to jump on the "We have tan" wagon. All are special in their own way. Thanks for the comment.
GM has their new bronze I think it is that is exactly what it says it is that I think I like more than the Nissan Baja storm. & I really like Nissans Baja storm.
i love the fact the Nisson is old school 6 cylinder.. The interior is clean with just enough tech so there would be not many issues..
Some people like simple, but in all regards there is the same technology, the difference is how it is presented in the cab out and executed in the vehicle. Thanks for commenting!
Old technology=reliability. All new is a gamble. Love the Canyon, though.
The funny thing is, all of the technology that is on the new Canyon has been in the Silverado/Sierra and Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade for decades. and as for technology, the PRO4X has all the same technology as the GMC/Chevy trucks. Adaptive Cruise, Lane Warning Departure and everything else. All of the vehicles out there today have too many devices. Thanks for the comment!
@@ToddCotta That's good to know because I'm seriously considering trading in my TRD Pro Tacoma for one of these AT4s.
@@endlessnameless3996 if you can wait, I’d just hold off for another 5 months or so and see how the new Tacoma and Ranger look. Just so you have every brand’s refresh on the market. You’d have to wait longer for the TRD Pro though.
Call me crazy but I've complained about everything being touch screen for so long I'm in love with the old school vibes of the Frontier, may buy a new 2024 Hardbody Edition
I gotta see that Hardbody edition. I grew up in the Hardbody era. Thanks for watching!
The bigger and taller the midsizers, the more appealing they are. Why? Because they are now resembling the full sizers of the 90s but with better gas mileage and all the new techy things. Practicality has become in style again with all these aircraft carriers out there...
That's why the next generation of Ridgeline (which just got bigger) Santa Fe, and Maverick are the next small truck. If this Canyon was the same size as my 1998 S10, I would not have purchased it and went to a larger truck like the Sierra. All vehicles get bigger because they want to beat their competitors. Here is a prediction the new 2024 Tacoma will be larger than the outgoing model. That is just how the industry works. Thanks for your comment!
@Todd Cotta Oh I hope so; it better be bigger, sharper lines, non-circular vents, better seating position and a tranny that doesn't hunt for gears or I'm copying you lol. I hate that that big ugly rectangle of a grill is growing on me. Hey were you in 2 or 4wd for that launch?
2wd, I doesn't need to be in 4 to prevent wheel spin.
That's why I sold my 2019 GMC Sierra, it was more truck than I needed size wise. Canyon is ordered 2 months ago.
Hope you love it!
To help understand the seating room in the back, how tall are yall? Maybe i missed it if it was said.
Im 6'2" tall and two hundred and plenty. Thanks for watching
@@ToddCotta awesome, thanks!
The 2 inch stock lift kit makes the GMC look a little better. If Nissan offered the 2 inch stock lift kit in the PRO4X without a cost increase it would be the true winner for sure.
Yes, and now Nissan is improving the interior and front nose for 2025. It will look a bit like a hardbody from the 90s. Thanks for Watching!
Congrats on the new truck, GM did a great job on the new model. I recommend the new TFL Gauntlet video, they test out the new Colorado. Have Pro4x my self
I saw it posted. I need to watch how Andre 's truck does on the gauntlet.
Good review Beautiful Truck BUT should we take a risk on a GM 4banger turbo over Toyota or Honda for long term reliability and their record of 200k miles or more??? and chance spending 50k (shopping mid-size currently drive a 2010 F150 with 165k flawless miles)
People can say the same thing about your 2010 F-150. Cuz I've never seen a Ford F-150 ever last of that many miles before. Totally breaking down. I don't concern myself too much with large mileage numbers because I never keep trucks that long. I move on to the next one. But I would still say that each truck is really good in its own right whether it's Toyota, Honda, Ford, or Chevy. Blanket statements about the quality of vehicles doesn't age well these days. Thanks for watching.
The Canyon would be much better with simply having a grab handle on the a pillar to get in.
There is a grab handle on the passenger side but not the driver's side. Go figure. It's really not tall enough to need one. Thanks for watching!
I just preordered the AT4 in Summit White
You will love it! Thanks for watching!
It's interesting to watch, especially in retrospect, knowing what later experiences you had with Canyon. I think both trucks are not the ideal place for rear passengers. Perhaps the Canyon is better at this (airflow and space), but mid-size trucks are not made for this - no one (except possibly children) will miss a ride in the backseat.
I like the previous version of the Canyon better - maybe it was outdated, maybe bland, but the new one - I feel like this - is more of a computer on wheels than a truck. But for someone upgrading from a larger truck, the Canyon may be just the right size.
Of the two (Canyon and Frontier), I would choose the Frontier, but the extended cab version (Canyon no longer offers it) for myself and my partner, and to transport more people, I would probably choose something other than a mid-size truck. In the new version of Frontier, I don't like the hood raised too high at the front, which limits visibility. Everything else is great including the sound of the engine, although the 4.0 engine has an even nicer sound, but they don't offer it anymore.
Sounds like a good choice! Thank you for watching.
Both are great trucks. Price wise, the Frontier is more affordable (dealers work with you on price) and I prefer the adjustable bed rails over fixed points. Off road wise the Canyon is better though I prefer the manual locker in the Nissan over the GM G80.
Reliability wise I give the nod to Nissan.
I prefer the GM’s technology but there can be a lot of glitches with that technology.
Again both are great and have their advantages.
Totally agree. thanks for watching!
I think short unfit drives will have issues getting in and out of Canyon's/TB/ZR2. My father in-law in his late 70s really struggled getting in my TB compared to his Sierra.
The trouble is to put a side step on these little trucks is difficult because either they hang too low or they are only 2 inches lower than the door threshold. My last Colorado had my pants all worn out at my calves because stepping over them every time I exited the trucks. These smaller trucks are weird that way. Thanks for watching!
I understand people want everything to be digital and all futuristic but the thing is that stuff breaks i dont want to have to adjust my ac by going in a touch screen and having to search through it. I just want a good truck that works and the frontier would be my choice especially when it comes to the aspirated v6.
That train has left the station. Everything this is changing and the government won't let us go back to analog. I agree but I am a tech guy sometimes.
I needed a 6' box.......GM failed to deliver here so I had no choice but to disqualify GM in the final decision. Went with the Frontier SV 4X4 and have no regrets.
I see your logic. Good choice! 2025 GMC AND Chevy will offer the 6 ft box as an option coming soon.
Do this review when they both have 30,000 miles on them.
If I still have the truck! I will continue to test the truck against competitors. It is fun!
A close friend of mine had to bail early (20k miles) on a previous gen Colorado due to transmission issues that the dealer couldnt fix. He bought a TRD pro Taco. The gm was a better truck in so many ways, but mechanically flawed. This was even pre COVID.
Some trucks are just doomed from the start. Doesn't matter the brand. The PRO4X in this video was the 2nd truck for this guy, he had to turn in his last truck due to the motor overheating and shutting down randomly. Nissan took the truck back before lemon law. So far this one is operating fine. Thanks for commenting!
@@ToddCotta great video, and great response to my comment!
The electronics sadly, will be the downfall of the GMC, plus the 8 speed is flawed. My brother-in-law has a Cadillac that has spent more time in the dealership than driving with constant electronic gremlins.
I personally, will hopefully be getting a Frontier. Maybe next year. I hope Nissan keeps this truck fresh and doesn't go as long without updating it.
Gremlins are not exclusive to GM, Ford and Chrysler. This was not Dustin's first 2023 Frontier. The first one was red and it overheated several times and the dealer could not figure out what was going on. It was a buy-back by Nissan and they chose to get this PRO4X.
I've owned just about every brand but somehow seem to get the worst luck with everyone. My 2020 Ram(lease thank God)the rear window is leaking water, the passenger side exhaust manifold is leaking too. My wife's 1st Traverse(current body style)was in the dealership more times than I can count. We decided to punish ourselves and went with another Traverse (2021)and this one luckily has had no problems yet....
The entire auto industry is evolving so quickly that problems will happen. My fear with this new Toyota Tacoma, there is so much new stuff and technology it will suffer the same consequences. Time will tell. Thanks for the comment.
I got my pro4x because my Colorado's tranny went south!! As did my sons tranny on his blazer!! Hope nissan cvt is better than Colorado tranny?
Comments online always make me chuckle. Yes the host of this video has a bias, but we see that in a lot of videos where the hosts include their own personal vehicle. Both of these trucks are killer vehicles and will do 99% of anything anyone would ever need to do. Is there a better truck? Yes, the Canyon is a better truck. It's that simple. But does "better" mean its the only choice? Or that somehow the Nissan is bad? No, they're both incredible. One might be better but that doesn't mean the other is any less ideal for someone wanting to buy a midsize truck. You literally can't go wrong with either.
I hear ya! I send plenty of good things about the Nissan. I liked the ride, the acceleration and the storage under the back seat. I prefer refinement and the interior of the Nissan was just not up to snuff with the GMC. I really enjoyed your perspective.
I'm liking that desert sand metallic! Went with Onyx black when I made my reservation, should of went with DSM. Great video!
The choices are so hard I know. Thanks for the comment!
"I don't want to be THAT guy" however you were most definitely "THAT guy" the whole video.
I love being "That guy" but the truck is so much better, it is hard to find a plus for that new truck that looks dated already. Thanks for watching!
I challenge you to point out 3 things the Nissan does better.... For real it's tough for Todd because it's a friend's truck and doesn't want to downplay their purchase, but at the same time he wants to give an honest review. Maverick don't be that guy..
I stated while I was driving the Frontier, smooth ride, good acceleration and comfortable. Does better? Really there is NOTHING the Nissan does better, even Dustin admitted that. Using old parts like the AC and steering wheel. bad button placement. Nissan has better parts in their bin at the factory, but chose to recycle old ones. Even the bed pales in comparison to the GMC. Thanks for the observation.
Todd had to either be "that guy" or give a dishonest review. The truth seemed apparent: in pretty much every category the AT4 is a superior product. Doesn't mean the Nissan isn't a nice truck that would work well for many folks. And Todd gave it props for the ride, backseat legroom, and well, that's about it :-)
@@ToddCotta that message was for the OP.. LOL he deleted his comment. Nice vid Todd!
Honestly I think the GMC looks better and is more refined. I would prefer the Nissan if I need to do truck stuff. The reliability is better in the Nissan. Also the steps can be removed from the rock rails on the Nissan to save your calves. When I priced both last week the GMC was $56,000 the Nissan was $50,000.
Thanks for watching!
How's the turning radius compared to the nissan?
Next time I have both trucks I'll try it.
Pro4X comes stock with sunroof, surround camera, heated steering wheel and others things that are an option on the GM.
Thanks for watching!
The GMC is better looking inside , but for the price I'll pick the Nissan anyday
Each have their plusses and minuses. Thanks for watching!
The tie down system in the Frontier is the best in the segment IF you get the convenience package with the rails. If it's a base of the model it's crap.
There are similar aftermarket rail kits that are just like the ones found on the Frontier. And the rail kit is an addon not standard equipment. All Canyon/Colorado trucks have 8 standard tie downs and holes to easily mount the load rails. Thanks for commenting!
@@ToddCotta You're spending far less money on a Pro4 with the package than this Canyon, so that doesn't really matter, since we are talking about value.
I just saw a review on a PRO4X on youtube that was a $750 less than my truck with the same options. I don't know where people are saying that Nissan Frontiers are cheaper, they can be optioned up to $50k very easily.
@@ToddCotta Don't be dishonest now, an AT4 is 47,655 MSRP, a Pro4x is 42,930. That is far more than 750.
@@ToddCotta I just built both trucks to get updated numbers, no options just packages. Frontier is 46,205. Canyon is 50,295. Huge difference.
I’ve watched a couple of your videos. I enjoy them and I wanted to see about this cargo tray. Not sure what it cost but it had to be worth it after using it to put your revolver cover on!
It sure made it easier!!!!!!! $1500 is a lot, but I have used it five times in the first three weeks of owning my truck. I will never have a truck without one ever again. Thanks for commenting!
That GMC is bad ass but the reliability with the turbo on a 4 banger on a truck is worrisome just because its fast does not mean it is strong BIG DIFFRENCE Nissan all the way for reliability and price.
Thanks for watching! I agree, these smaller engines, now Toyota Tacoma is all 4cyl also. It will see how they hold up.
What mid size would all of you buy if you needed a 4 door with a 6'+ bed?
This is not the best time to be asking that question because they're all changing so fast. GM does not offer any 6 ft beds anymore in the small trucks. But the new ranger is unknown. The new Tacoma is unknown and I think you can get a six foot bed in the Nissan. But with all the things changing so fast it's hard to determine what's coming up.
@@ToddCotta yeah, I know. Bad move on GMs part. Ford is making 24 Ranger with 6' supposedly. Toyota wouldn't dare drop theirs. Many contractors use them (exterminators, etc).
Thanks for responding. +1, btw.
Nissan has a 6 foot bed in the pro4x for 2025.....that's what ya buy
Hello and Thank you for the great videos you post about the new 2023 AT4... any chance you can do a video comparing the 2nd gen CAnyon AT4 (2021-2022) to the new ? in a head-to-head review? I'm sure you can find a happy 2021-2022 GMC Canyon AT4 owner out here. I am the happy owner of a 2021 GMC Canyon AT4, but would love a comparison to help me and others decide if upgrading to the new model is worth it.
Let me see what I can do.
I think you should’ve compared the Canyon to a Frontier with the leather seats. also the Frontier doesn’t have a trailer brake which is a bummer.
I could only get that one. I know the guy, there are not many of these out there. But interior space and function are the same. Thanks for watching
Frontier , I really like the simplicity of the interior, might not be your case . Simple electronic, old fashion buttons and digital numbers. I like the truck a lot . I would like the put the same interior in the AT4, cause I prefer the AT4. But Nissan is like the old Tacoma, excellent performer, simple and reliable. But in 2024, in few weeks îll give a chance to the AT4 for few years.
My personality type wants all the tech stuff, i get it. Did you see the new Pro-4X is priced the same in the top trim as the AT4 now. Go figure, the are increasing their prices too. Thanks for watching!
@@ToddCotta Thanks for taking the time to answer. I do understand your point. For the same price, its a no brainer, anyway for me. Im in the mid 50 yrs old, îm getting lost in all the electronic/ infotainment systems, I dont even listen the radio much, as there adds are annoying me. Im waiting the phone from the gmc dealer for the AT4 2025 to place the order. They told me they can place the order now but cant provide the price for 2025, thats bugging me. I can of course wait few month, I have the Rav4 Trail 2023, Since I got an offgrid cabin, a small pick-up will better suit me. cheers !
So on the other AT4, you mentioned they got different packages. What packages were they? Or are you going to make a video about theirs too and compare the different packages?
And wow that AT4 really moves!
Mine has the premium package, safety package, technology and advanced tow pkg. His has only two pkg and no other upgraded. He wanted to see HUD.
@@ToddCotta I imagine you'd take the leather over the cortec/cloth combo, but on that base AT4 interior, was it still good for most people? Is the cloth soft? or is it something to skip and always get the leather interior on?
There is nothing wrong with cloth, but when you upgrade to the premium package leather is automatic.
Funny how you skipped the zero gravity far more comfortable nissan seats or mention 12 to 15 years buttons & knobs will work fine as the nissan doesnt need google not being a laptop on wheels or how that turbo motor will expire long before the nissan hits 300k plus miles just saying i prefer a tough truck that'll last
I mean it's all opinion. If you like trucks that have old technology then Nissan's fine. But if you want the latest technology and Google maps and all those things, then you probably should stick with the newer model trucks.
The one thing they Didn't tell you is There is about a ten thousand dollar difference in the price of those two trucks with the GMC being ten thousand dollars higher.
I can build the same truck with more options to make the price within $1k. Adding leather, and some other options makes it $48500. I didn't have a choice in the truck, it was what was there. One thing is true, same motor, same dash and doors, same suspension. That is what we were looking at. Thanks for watching!
The Canyon is absolutely beautiful, blows the frontier out of the water in terms of comfort and ease of use. But I think in the long run, the frontier’s v6 will prove to be a more reliable engine than GMC’s v4 turbo. There’s definitely 2 trains of thought here. Nissan: Tried and true, easy to repair
GMC: Latest and greatest, best there is to offer
Great comment! Time will tell with the 2.7 long term.
Great video! Would love to see a comparison between the Ranger and the AT4!
If I can find a tremor. I would love to.
Would be great to see them side by side from a size perspective and compare interior space - I had been thinking about a ranger but it looks like GMC has really raised the bar. Really nice looking truck you have there!
@@ToddCotta We saw a tremor in Hanford after the shoot.
I believe the GMC is much nicer, with more features. However Nissan takes the typical Japanese mindset of keeping it simple therefor making it more reliable and dependable. Time will tell……
Yep, all of these trucks are loaded with tech now. We will see! Thanks for commenting!
That particular trim level on that Pro4X is more like 42K not 50K
I never said it was. I explained in the video that the truck was not loaded but could be optioned up to $50k. But the interior does not change when you move up the levels. That was the interior for all of the trucks which in our opinion was woefully inferior to the AT4 and even the Z71 trucks. Thanks for commenting!
I paid $37500 for my 2024 pro4x!
So this video is about? *How GMC fully demolishes Nissan*
The Nissan is a really good truck. It would be an amazing awesome truck in 2015, but not in 2023. Even though it is all new, it feels old. GM has brough a winner to the game. Thanks for watching!
After 17 years, Nissan still doesn't change the platform... Very lazy.
It's a mystery!
Turbo 4 will always usually take you on the line. But honestly they both have about the same HP. But the Nissan will outlast that turbo 4 easily. Rather have that in a midsize pickup.
Funny thing is his previous '22 Frontier was lemon law buy back because of the motor. These days the motors in these trucks are all about the same, look at the problems Toyota Tundra is having with all of their motors blowing up. Nothing is what it seems when it comes to quality anymore. Thanks for commenting!
I prefer the interior of the Frontier IMO
Each has their sting points. Thanks for watching
Tou can get a loaded Pro4x frontier for 44k right now, so that is way cheaper. It also will have the utilitrac rails in the bed with adjustable anchors.
Buy the Nissan and only visit the dealer for oil changes, buy the GMC and become good friends with the dealer as you will spend a lot of time together !
By the name on your profile I can see you are a Nismo fan! Did you know that Dustin's truck in the video was the second Frontier he has owned in the past six months? His first one was factory buy back because it overheated after driving 25 miles and they could not fix the problem. Nissan bought it back before lemon law attorneys got involved. They got the PRO4X after being paid off by Nissan. Please be careful making blanket statements about manufacturers. It's not a good look. Thanks for watching!
@@ToddCotta My comment comes from owning many cars over the years and working at dealerships. Your comparison came off as an ad for GMC - time will tell if it's any good. My opinion is it will not. How about updating videos every 5000 miles ?
Take a look at my 3k review. Just uploaded last week. I am NOT a GM Fanboy. just love trucks.
Wonder how far you had to look for a frontier without a bedliner or the utility track system. Went to 4 different nissan dealers and did not find one without a liner. plus the canyon is loaded the frontier is not. plus I didnt know gm found a new way for #s to look on a dashboard. I own a loaded pro4x and it was still thousands cheaper. plus I dont think you should do a review when you own one of them. Turbo long term I dont know.
I specifically stated that this was not the loaded PRO4X which is only $2-3000 less than GMC. But it has same dash and motor as the loaded truck. I had plenty of good things to say about the Nissan, but when it comes to refinement, cabin size is bigger in Pro4X but even the top Pro4X does not compete with the styling inside or outside of the Canyon. Thanks for watching!
Should compare to my Titan, we can even line them up
Sounds like fun!
They both have there strong and weak points, guess depends what you need it to do ... but I have to admit even in current market price point you can find decent fullsize trucks that offer far more capability in about same mpg ...
Yes but I was tired of parking and managing around town in a big truck. Each truck has a purpose and this one fits my needs. Thanks for commenting!
In the real world, you’re comparing a $52000 truck (GMC) to a $40000 truck (Nissan). Value comes to mind as well
I said that in the video, but you can build a $46k AT4 and $46K Frontier. So it is not that simple. Plainly stated, the top line of the Nissan does not have an interior nearly as nice as the base model GMC Canyon Elevation. Nissan is just not as refined as the Canyon. Thanks for watching!
GMC more power, less life, and more $ overtime. Nissan has better suspension and a 2.5 inch lift costs hardly anything. I m not lured in by shiny things . I want longevity and dependability, I’ll stay with my Nissan. I’d rather by an American truck, but I don’t like being broke down either.
I don't know what everybody is talking about. Jap is good, USA is junk. Those are generalizations that I can't abide. Why are we still thinking like it is 1980 and Honda has just arrive with the new Accord. Maybe then it would be a general truth, but today all cars are about the same. Thanks for watching!
I come a family full of mechanics. I guarantee you that little turbo will not out last the naturally aspirated V6. My last truck was a F250 7.3 diesel. It was a great truck. Yes there are things American car builders do better, but not in this realm and they never have. When I need a diesel I’ll by American again. When I need a small gas saver I’m buying Toyota or Nissan. Not a fan of Honda but that just a preference.
Great to chat with you! Have a great day!
I own that very same frontier and color.. nissan updated the truck but they didn't update it. I feel nissan should do a nismo trim
To compete with AT4, ZR2, and Tacoma
I dont think it was a fair assessment.. at4 is wayyy above that pro 4x trim level
Still Nissan has not embraced the US market by making luxury trucks, very similar to Tacoma. Basic interiors. But prices are similar. I was going on price for what you get, not necessarily 1 for 1 comparison. Even the Frontier at the same price point still has same interior and if looks more like a work truck not family vehicle. Thanks for the comment!
@@ToddCotta great comment..
I agree!
The GM twins look great but would still take the Nissan all day.
Great! Both are very good trucks!
NA engine will provide more longevity, (less maintence and wear) than forced induction. But for fun factor, and if your pockets are deep? Go turbo.
Thanks for watching! Yes it is fun.
Realistically, at what point is something too much. The GMC is more of a luxury vehicle and most people buying it will probably never leave the payment. The Frontier, while much more basic, actually seems like a truck. They focused on the important things and reduced their price by not having all the little luxuries. I would assume the frontier will probably last a lot longer because of this as well.
Prices of truck are way too high. Now Toyota and Nissan have increased their prices in 2025 to match GMC pricing.
Nissan has a great truck but the new GM twins show that it is already is need of a technology update. I love the Nissan exterior design and the look of the interior but the infotainment system graphics are dated and the camera quality is poor. Plus Nissan needs a trim to compete with the AT4X and ZR2. Something next level.
The interior or the NEW Frontier looks 10 years old. I don't know why Nissan does that. Thanks for watching!
If they improved engine build and mechanics it could be capable of running a factory supercharger to compete.. but Nissan doesn't want to lead the pack. Still falls short in every other area. Kind of like the Chicago Cubs.. wait until next year lol😂
I guess they want to keep the Frontier in last place for sales. Go big or go home is what is needed to keep interest in a brand. The Titan and Frontier are the poorest selling trucks on the market because of their bland styling and lack of technology and power. You would think at least they would try to dethrone the Tacoma, but no, just throw old parts in a new truck and call it all new. I guess Nissan likes last place.
@@ToddCotta actually you're wrong about the sales, the canyon was in last place last year with only 27,000 trucks sold, frontier was tied with the gladiator at 76,000 and sold more than the ridgeline and ranger, and frontier sales in the last 2 years are up 25.5% on average. Say again how nissan has poor sales and is in last place. Might want to get your facts straight if you're gonna be a "content creator" and not just make up BS.
Yes 76k Gladiators were sold. But what people refuse to acknowledge is the Canyon is an upscale Colorado under the GM Banner. 117,016 of these trucks were sold in 2022. Same with the Sierra and Silverado, the same trucks in the same factory but Ford always splits the numbers when GM spanks them every year in total trucks sold. Thanks for commenting.
Gmc its gonna kick all midsize trucks
Nice video Btw!
That motor is unreal. Thanks for the comment!
I've never seen a frontier without a bed liner and the utila-track.
Thanks for watching. It shows as an option on the build sheet.
Great video, but the all caps title is unnecessarily overly sensational. Just my 2C. Keep it up Todd!
Got to get clicks!!!!! Thanks for the comment!!!!