Amazon Welder Setup and basic settings for Permanent Jewelry !
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- Setup and operation of the Jinhuo Welder aka Amazon Welder aka Unbranded Machine.
I'm sure I missed stuff so fire away in the comment section
I"m just a guy trying to help you out. I didn’t get any money from anyone, no free machines and I don’t mess with affiliate marketing so no point in linking stuff here :)
Please ask any questions and sorry for the JV level iPhone video !
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You deserve a gold medal for this award
Very informative! Was having difficulty getting ahold of the seller, and you answered any questions that I had. 🤘
Thank you for doing this! It cleared up a lot of mystery!! 😊
thank god for you!!!! i just paid for a course n they left out how to set it up so this is very helpful
Sorry you paid already, search RUclips next time it’s free ! :)))
Can you recommed the welder ?
@@IsabellaFernado check my channel for video about this. for just starting out, ya I recommend it. When you start making money, upgrade :)
You’re a great teacher! I’m in San Diego too!
Right on glad to help: Anything to avoid paid “training courses.” Stop by the markets anytime and say hello
Thank you , this was very helpful.
What setting did you pick on the right side while welding silver & gold?
Thank you for your videos. My best friend and I are considering permanent jewelry. Since yesterday I’ve watched almost all videos but can’t believe how expensive the welders are. So I was thinking if you don’t mind, since we live in Pasadena, LA, would you consider an in person tutorial, we can drive to SD. I used to live in Oceanside years ago and worked there at La Jolla. I would appreciate a reply. Thanks and Godbless .
Thanks for watching :) honestly you don’t even need in person or online training. Stones and findings and sunstone and i think halstead bead all have free training videos.. welders you should buy used on Facebook. No need to buy new.
You said
Settings-
1,3
2,3
1,6
&
2,6
But which setting for which metal?
Hi! It’s more about the gauge (thickness) of the metal vs the material but both are important. Most welds in perm jewelry are going to be at 1/3 for all metals. If you are working with 22 gauge plus, 1/6 or 2/3 might be better. Sterling and gold usually take less power than gold filled or stainless.
There's something called an "air pressure guage" on the one I bought. There's a place for a smaller tube marked out and what appears to be a 1/4" tube marked in. There's a plastic knob on it, that doesn't seem to turn. I'm guessing I need to buy a separate regulator and somehow attach this to the reglator, but not sure how or how to use the knob
Ya I wouldn’t even bother with that. Just buy the regulator for pulse arc welders. I got mine at Pepe tools I think like $120. 1/4 tube quick connect on the regulator.. I’ve got another video about gas 😊
Thank you! Where do you get your argon gas? It's so expensive here
Mom and pop places if possible. The big chains are 2-3x !
amazing vids! very informative! is it possible to weld gold filled rings or other, thicker parts of gold filled jewerly with this welder?
Personally I’ve only done a couple ring repairs. So it’s def possible. The thing with Gold filled, when you weld the base metal gets “remixed” with the plating so the weld area becomes exposed. So that spot will not look like the rest of the ring and may show tarnish differently. But that doesn’t mean don’t do it :)
Great video Thank you I Am just venturing into the world of permanent jewellery Does the welder have a safety feature that unless you complete a circuit it won’t fire I just want to be absolutely safe I see it’s a feature with the Zapp and Orion welders and I am swaying towards those but the price is huge and the Amazon one price is great for a start up
All of the welders have a delay period between first connection of a completed circuit and firing. Ya the Amazon machine esp used is so cheap it’s great for proof of concept. When this video was made the zapp (or plus) did not exist. Also Orions could not be had used or refinished for $1500. Like I said in my video if you have a good venue to sell at, it’s worth upgrading right away. If not, Amazon is probably your call.
@@Friction-Jewelry Thank you 🙏 I am considering the zapp plus with the screen
This has been very helpful. I'm just starting and couldn't figure it out. But now I know my settings were way to high. What part did you use to sharpen electrode
Mine didn’t come with a working sharper, check my other videos for options on that ;)
What size of electrodes do you use? For this machine.?
1mm
Great info! Thanks! How does it compare to the orion? I was debating between a orion or the dado 2, but now i want to try this cheaper machine instead. I've been doing some tig welding with silver and gold, so I'm really tempted to buy this machine for thinner material... is it worth buying for welding/tacking thin material, filling casting defects, and re-tipping prongs?
This is tough question for me, as I do not do fine jewelry, settings etc. if my goal was fine material like under 24g, consistently, I would buy the Orion mpulse or maybe the Zapp. For 2 reasons: 1, the microscope attachment, 2, lower power and consistency. I’ve never used the Dado 2, it looks great but price.. if you are using the welder professionally for an existing business, again I would buy the Orion. But if it’s more hobbyist then sure you could easily buy the Amazon machine and return it if it doesn’t perform for you.
@@Friction-Jewelry thanks for your input... 24ga would probably be the thinnest I'd weld. For a fraction of the cost of the orion, I think I'll try it. I wish I could weld under my microscope, but I don't think ill see good with dark goggles on, so I'll try with an optivisor and shade 10 goggles. The orion microscope definitely seems like the best way to get a more productive workflow...
Shade 10 are dark , you'll need a lot of task light. I Like the 10x magnifying lamp plus shade 6 or 8 glasses. Optivisor is ok but I feel like with welding glasses its cumbersome. This is low power welding so you'll be safe with lower shade. AWS says shade 8 but I found them to be dark...again its one of the reasons I use the Orion setup. no glasses and smooth work flow. But ya man, for the cost it's worth a shot. return it if it sucks, the beauty of amazon! @@jeff_desir
@Friction-Jewelry ok thanks for letting me know, I figured 10 because I'm used to tig welding with an auto darkening mask set to 9-11 shade depending on amperage. Thanks again for the information, very helpful... I think that cheap machine can be useful, only downside seems power precision tuning and no microscope option...
Are you literally touching the jump ring with the tip or just really close?
Yes you have to touch it or it won’t fire
@@Friction-Jewelry ty very much. It seemed like when I was just getting close it would fire..I blew up a few rings lol. I’m deff in training .. ty for answering my question:)
For the welding pen/the part we have to sharpen, do we sharpen it all the way until there is a pointy point?
Yes it shouldn’t take long to make it very sharp. Wear an n95 mask and do it outside if possible tungsten dust is not good for you.
So the Power you need to weld Gold Silver is very low %2 power of the unit. Should be also posiblel to weld it with these litel unit used to weld Lithoum-Ion batteries
I just got mine, I have the darkening glasses but it’s still so bright to me… is that normal?
Hi,
I am interested in permanent jewelry and I am doing my research on what I need and what do I need to do. I was not aware argon gas, where can you get it from? Should I treat it like gas like caution wise ? How long does a tank last ?
@@JasmineTrujillo-yo1uu argon gas you can at your local welding supply store, or gas chain just google map it. You can even buy a full tank online. The gas itself is inert. It’s not dangerous.
@@Friction-Jewelry omg thank you so much for the advice!!! Do you have a video on how to start a permanent jewelry business? Like do you need insurance? Where can you get insurance? And do vendors ask you to have it on hand ?
Anytime I weld with mine, no matter the metal is kicks off metal pieces… like hot little metal pieces.. does the gas keep it from doing that?
This is something I haven't heard, and I've heard a lot hehe. . Hit me up on IG and send a video. Go to the lowest setting on the machine.
Where does the ground hook in the machine ??
In the front :)
Hi! Thanks for the video. If not using the gas, can I just skip the argon steps and do everything else the same?
Ya it’s the same, argon is just part of it. Add it when you can.
@@Friction-Jewelry awesome thanks for the quick response. Maybe you can answer another question I have? I just set my machine up tonight and I’m having an impossible time with building the stylus holder, I can’t seem to get the screws in on the two arm pieces- any advice, or alternatives? And two, I just tried to close my first jump ring- I unplugged the machine but wasn’t sure it was safe to you the tip by hand, so I decided to touch it to the alligator clip, and it blew a large hole. Can you explain why that happened so I don’t make that mistake again?
The first question, maybe send me some pics to my IG account. I'm not following the issue. The 2nd question, I'm not sure I understand that one either. If you touch the grounded alligator clip to the stylus, that completes the circuit and the machine will fire. If you touch the stylus with your finger the machine wont fire so that is safe. You can change the electrode with the machine one etc. @@ychea5763
Hi I am a newbie and I just got this machine. I was trying to figure out the copper head to try and twist it off to put the tungsten needle in but it wouldn’t budge. so my friend tried to take it out of the pen and he broke it to pieces😢 What if the copper head broke inside the pen? Do you just get a new copper head for the needle? or is the old part still stuck inside and broken? 😞I don’t know if I should get a new copper head for the needle and try that or just get a new pen connection entirely. Please help!
Hmm. Copper head I assume you mean the collet that holds the tungsten ? It’s just a screw. I’m not sure why it wouldn’t budge / unscrew. Send pics to my IG I guess
@@Friction-Jewelryyes the thing that holds the needle. The outer screw came off just fine, but the inner one that you put in the needle and then put into the pen broke off. I’ll send pics. thank you!
@@ChandoppeHorvath Ive never seen or heard of that happening I'm sorry.
@@Friction-Jewelrythat’s ok. I realize that piece rusted in there and broke off. I got a new pen to replace it. I was freaking out but a simple fix once it came in the mail
@@ChandoppeHorvath it's great you got some customer service. That is one advantage of Amazon, bc they know you can send it back easily.
What size Argon tank is best if you’re hoping to do some shows down the road?
20 cu ft :)
I can’t use gas at the moment and so the electrode is turning black. How would I clean it between each client?
A quick with a clean dry cloth will help but you need to remove the electrode and sharpen it. See my other videos on sharpeners.
What is this set of din autodarking can i find in aliexpress ..do you hve the link??
One more question, does it always have a spark when it hits to weld. Or is that alwaa misfire
Not sure what you mean by misfire, I think you mean when there is a tiny spark but not a legit zap. Usually those happen when a break in contact is made, you flinch or shake and the electrode is pulled off the weld spot too soon. Hold the stylus as steady as possible and it should fire most times.. try and get some part of your hand stabilized on the table so it’s not floating.. does that help ?
Hi not sure if you can help but when I plug mine into the power outlet it just consistently makes a loud beeping sound that only turns off if I power off the welder switch… could it be damaged? Or could I need a converter/higher voltage? I’m in LA, CA
did you get this resolved ? sorry I totally missed your comment.
Our same system won’t go to ready. Just stays at wait with no green light? And suggestions?
Send it back if possible. I’ve heard of this issue, but I have not heard of a fix.
What piece do you use to connect the welder the the gas gauge???
Check out my video on hooking up the argon gas, it’s on my channel
Hi! I am having a hard time closing the weld. I keep blowing through jump rings and different settings. What setting do you recommend for a small 3mm 14k gold filled jump ring?
Go to 1/3 on the settings. Clean your electrode. You need a sharpener. See my other vids on that. 3mm doesn’t matter, it’s the thickens or gauge of the wire / jump ring / chain link that will dictate the settings.
@@Friction-Jewelry Thanks. I have tried that and the first time it will spark, then after that I don't get a spark. Any idea of what could be the problem? I've been searching online for some sort of answer and cant find it!
@@taliespidesigns5757 chances are you aren't getting a spark bc you are flinching or pulling the stylus away too quickly. Try and maintain gentle, even pressure on the weld joint until the machine fires
What settings do you use for different metal types?
1 top and 3 bottom
Mine keeps misfiring. Anytips?
My stylus isnt retracting help! Eev on the lowest setting, (1/3) its blowing my jump rings up. any ideas how to fix it?
If it isn’t retracting, I’m surprised it’s even firing ? I’m sorry I’m no help here.
Make sure your jump rings are completely closed. I noticed my jumprings would blow when they weren't completely closed, and the angle matters too
Where did you get your Argon regulator?
Pepe Tools
do you have to have argon gas??
It works without it. Just not as well imo
What argon gas can/ should we get
100% Argon
Where did u buy your cleaning tool?
Do you mean the electrode sharpener ? Amazon :)
Can we use it without the gas tank?
Yup :) just doesn’t work as well.
What kind of dremel tool do you have in this video?
Dremel Lite 7760 w/Electrode sharpener jig. Dokili brand on amazon about $30. I also recommend the cordless Didumen sharpener on amazon. that one is my top pick bc it comes with the jig and can be used as a dremel as well.
I have my machine set up correctly, it is working half the time I do not get a spark/weld. When I do get a spark and weld it does not close the jump ring. help!
Ok so, there are a few things that could be happening. Beginners tend to pull away while welding. Keep light but steady pressure on the joint until after it’s fired. 2nd, too little power will cause the jumps to not weld. Try raising to 2/3 or 1/6. 3rd. Clean your electrode. If you are working with black soot on your electrode the power settings are going to be off. Always work clean.
@@Friction-Jewelry Thank you so much! Do you have any recommendations on what tools I should purchase to see better?
@@taliespidesigns5757 Seeing is like the #1 most important thing and its kind of the weakness of this machine bc you basically need to freehand weld with glasses on..which are dark. So you'll need a magnify light 5X to 10X range, with a big built in light. Check amazon.
@@Friction-Jewelry Thank you!
I only use solid gold and sterling silver jump rings.
Love that ! They weld beautifully:)
@@Friction-Jewelry I have a group on Facebook just for the gray unbranded machine. I post your videos in there because they add value.
@@terriberry67what’s your fb group? I totally agree, valuable info here!! Thank you
@@terriberry67 Cool thanks glad I'm helping someone :)
Thank you so much
Mine literally won’t work ! Idk what I’m doing wrong
DM me on IG maybe I can help you through it. Usually it’s a grounding issue
Did it work ?
My machine is stuck on "wait" and the ortho light is yellow. any way to fix that?
This has never happened to me, but I have heard of it before. Can you reach out to the Amazon seller ? I think they sold a lot of these so maybe they will do something.
This is exactly what mine is doing, did you fix it?
No :( they had to ship me a new machine and told me that there's nothing they can do to fix it. @@shihonnbird4732
I think she returned it@@shihonnbird4732
I am looking for a welder to weld small pieces of sheet together, coper, brass, and fine silver, for jewelry items. Something like overlapping two pennies and welding the contact point. They only need to be able to survive light handling, would this machine be able to do something like that? Thanks!
All the setting buttons on the right hand side…….which button is for WHAT….i have ZERO info on that information,,,.and i even paided for training…nothing about all those choices on the machine!!! Can you please help?!??!
Paid training eek ! Sorry about that. You’re not alone though, many people forget about the magic of RUclips. The other buttons are presets, you don’t need them bc you’ll be using manual settings. You do use the gas timing button if running argon, it controls the amount of time gas flows, I recommend the lowest setting to conserve gas, but any will work. Happy zapping !
Thank you for clearing that up! And as far as gas goes…it seems to be a lot cleaner…and not as dark of a weld too…so I remember you saying in another video
The first few times might not need it
But as I get more intricate it would be easier to use…since I’m on the word intricate…what type of jump ring if at all to use on the smallest of chains…and would the smallest tungsten thing an with gas make the perfect weld ?! I get most of my stuff Friday and can’t wait to just try an figure it all out…seriously can’t thank you enough for just being completely open an honest with the complete description for me to keep trying!!! So THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING MY FREE TEACHER ON UTUBE!!!!!!!
This welder does pretty well with 24g and thicker (22, 20 etc). The smallest chains require 26g. you can certainly try it at the lowest setting but results may be inconsistent. just play with it and you'll learn what works
@@Jessica12476
I just got mine and I can’t get it to weld the jump ring 😢
Try and post or DM a video of what’s happening. Will help if I can.
@@Friction-Jewelry okay thank you!
@@Friction-Jewelry hey is there a way I can message you the photo
@@patriciaov3116 ya you can DM me on insta
@@Friction-Jewelry ok I dm you
video seems croped top and bottom. cant see many things you point out.
promo sm 💔
Excellent video all the others just talk youve actually detailed the use and how to format 🦾