I Sold My Rivian R1T - The TRUTH After 24k Miles / 9 Months
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
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00:00 Welcome
00:18 What We'll Be Covering And My EV Background
02:13 R1T Tour / Condition, Specification, Window Sticker
07:53 Odometer / Lifetime Efficiency and Energy Use
08:41 What have I done with my Rivian?
11:29 Why am I selling?
15:42 Previous Reviews
16:20 Things I Like About My R1T
33:02 Intro to Areas for Improvement
33:33 Inherent Characteristics That Could Be Improved
46:17 Things That Could Be Improved With Software
54:24 Questions From Twitter
59:17 Service Experience
59:54 Wrap Up / Would I Buy It Again
01:01:09 Which Rivian Config Should You Buy?
01:02:58 Thoughts on Rivian R2 Platform
01:03:57 Thoughts on Rivian Adopting Tesla NACS And Current Charging
01:07:55 Thank You For Watching 
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Included chapters on this long video for easier watching! Would love to hear feedback from other Rivian owners if you agree or disagree with any of the things I cover in the video.
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I appreciate the fact that you realize you don't actually need a truck. 80% of truck owners need to look in the mirror and have the same conversation with themselves.
I think I may forever associate you with a Blue on white Rivian. And I don't think that's a bad thing. Truck is awesome and I appreciate your insight on your experience with it.
This review of Rivian is spot on. I think the cost/utility concerns that are part of the reason for selling it could have been thought through before buying the truck, but definitely agree with the experience good and bad. Another thing i'd want is more range when towing (probably via battery). I'm only 3 months into my R1T ownership with 4500 miles so far but using it for truck things like towing etc.
Loved hearing your R1T ownership thoughts, Branden!
Hey Brandon, welcome back to the Tesla fold / dark side :). I'm forwarding this on to a friend who is taking delivery in a couple months. Great job as always. Brian.
Subscribed. We just got our R1s. Thanks for sharing
Great thorough review. It would be fantastic if it comes back to you in a couple years!
Agreed, would be cool to have it again!
Great vid, Brandon. Thank you. Very detailed and honest.
Why do you need a house? Just live in the truck 😂
If only it was that easy 😅
Seriously.
Sad to see you leave the R1 fam. Maybe well see you back once the R2 drops 😁
Thanks for the rivian content, we will miss it!
What’s been your experience with the charging we live in florida we go to North Carolina for biking in Brevard quite often been concerned with the charging wanted to get your thoughts looking at an R1s
love the deep dive, great content. sad it will be boring with a tesla instead, but great work!
I’ll do my best to not have it be boring 😉
Hi Brandon, about your thoughts on getting an R1S, if I'm right for assuming that you've driven one: Do you find the driving characteristics very different? I'm familiar with how mid-sized trucks drive and I'm okay with it, but I care a lot about handling. Curious to see your thoughts on this point -- thanks!
Branden, I just took a trip to San Diego and LA from Phoenix, I drive a Model Y and there is absolutely no range anxiety and plenty of chargers to choose from I could actually go on the car screen and change my charging stops based on the cost of charging., or if there was a wait (there was no wait for any chargers ) Tesla has added so many chargers and location since my last trip to California, it's amazing. I can't imagine doing that in any CCS car, It would be so frustrating, even in California. It was funny.. my son loves shopping so while we were at UTC mall in La Jolla, I popped into Polestar, where their salesperson basically said Polestar will need to add tesla chargers.. the CCS just isn't a great system right now. And the people at the VinFast Store were even better salespeople for Tesla
I don't think CCS protocol itself is the problem. I don't think the form factor is the problem. The problem is the CPOs and the implementation from the major manufacturers at the moment.
I've never had an issue with plug and charge for EA or EVgo (after setting it up the first time). I think a lot of issues happen between the person actually activating the charger and then plugging in. It's a weird process and not ideal for most people.
Tesla has had the benefit of a closed ecosystem. A lot easier to "just work" when you control the production from A to Z. The question still remains of "Will non-Tesla vehicles get the same "it just works" from Tesla Superchargers with the adapter that is going to be provided?" One would imagine we would, but it's not guaranteed. We'll have to wait to see what happens. Rivian seems dedicated to their network and if they had the means, I do believe they would have been a viable CCS CPO but it's just not there yet. And it's really best if we're all on the same plug anyways. Road tripping isn't nearly as bad as the horror stories scream. Certainly harder than a Tesla but you can do it.
@@isaacbarham2046Open Superchargers work great in Europe.
@@brandenflasch I'm guessing we'll get the same in the US. I'm excited for the future of EVs.
Car looks like new with 24,000 mi.the ppf did the trick, it looks well worth it, I hope it reflexes in the sale price?
I’m holding my ioniq 5 for the r2. I’m not a truck guy and I really don’t need a 3 row SUV for any reason and the price is just way too high for me. I want one so bad but I need it more in the 40-50k range
I thought I didn't need a truck until I bought a house and had to do some DIY stuff to it. Then, I realized why every driveway in my neighborhood have trucks parked, lol. I am sure you'll get another one once you cleared your objectives. I also sold my Tesla before purchasing our current home. There are always opportunities out there. I wish you a good hunt for your home search!
Thank you! I think I’ll be fine without a truck even with a home - I did fine in Minnesota with my BMW wagon and then Tesla Model S with homeownership 🤷♂️
Extensive and useful review. You really got a lot out of the Rivian R1T in 9 months! I think too much car for most people (particularly those who live in cities, like me) but from what you have told and shown us, it has some awesome features. You will miss V2L in your new Tesla! But I'm happy to hear you will be a Tesla owner again.
Great vid. All valid points. Tesla community ain’t what it was.
Has your charging experience improved ? In early videos,specifically your trip to Florida time charging seemed to be quite long . Also you weren’t getting full charging from EA. Has that improved ? Thanks.
That has a lot more to do with the infrastructure than the vehicle unfortunately (or fortunately? since that means the truck isn’t the issue). Rivian charging isn’t perfect but it’s completely acceptable
@@brandenflasch Thank you. I have found your videos to be very informative. Looking forward to what’s ahead.
Since the major carmakers are moving to the Tesla charging standard I wouldn't touch one of these cars until he came equipped with NACS Tesla charging port. Bam charging problems fixed.
I was hoping you would tell me how terrible it was to talk me out of buying one 😂
Great to hear your thoughts and well done review. I'm definitely interested in the dual motors. I wish they had a version with a locking differential for off-roading. Quad is just too much and too expensive.
At some point I'll test drive an R1T, but I know if I do that I'm going to have to buy one and I'm not quite ready for that yet. 😅
You’ll definitely want one after you drive it
What was the point of getting this expensive inconvenience in the first place?
just curious, why was your efficiency so bad? I have the same ATs and after 4k miles I'm averaging 2.54 mi/kWh with a couple off-roading days included.
Lots and lots of interstate driving
How much are you selling the truck for? Are you breaking even or taking a loss considering the initial discount you got on the truck?
Fairly small loss
How has the battery degradation been over those miles? Any range loss?
Essentially impossible to test since Rivian unlocked additional capacity since I purchased the truck which would mask any degradation that would show otherwise
Based on what you shared about your needs you may soon be purchasing a Tesla Model Y.
Charging on a V3 supercharger you're only going to get 150kw tops. It just makes it far more reliable and more places that you can go without any worries. So CCS 350kw, or even the 150kw (that are actually 175kw and you can pull that much with this truck) will still still be the first choice.
You’re only speaking for current Magic Dock limitations. Superchargers can easily output more than Rivian’s 500A max input. Tesla’s CCS adapter (the reverse of Magic Dock for Teslas to use CCS) can easily do 500+A.
@@brandenflasch Then why can't the magic docks not go any higher? It's basically a V3 with an adapter. Why would Tesla limit the amps there but not on the other V3's with an adapter that these are going to use?
@@Paul-cj1wb Magic Dock is essentially a beta program. That’s why there are only 11 sites. They’re playing it safe for now.
@@brandenflasch I see. So perhaps they might increase the amps allowed for non-Teslas at these magic doc sites at some point this year for beta testing?
What prices are reasonable for a full PPF job on rivian and Teslas 5-7k?
That sounds about right
U should test drive the r1t dual motor
Hope to as soon as I can! They're just staring to roll out of the factory but I don't believe they've started deliveries of them yet.
Have you heard of any Rivians burning down due to salt water intrusion in battery pack recent hurricane?
No.
Rear wheel steering!!
Quad motor performance!
It should have ventilated rear seats already. Windshield wiper motors are to loud.
That was a great review. I have a question given your knowledge of version two versus version 3 Tesla superchargers. What is the ratio of installs of each and isn’t it true that version two’s are not liquid cooled therefore could have cable extensions, but also are subject to thermal derating because of the sensor in the handle that could affect charge times of a vehicle like your Rivian as you described at the end of this video❓ I too had a debt income ratio home loan purchase that kept me out of an EV purchase until that was all settled which I’m grateful to have behind me. Good luck with your purchase and maybe I can meet you sometime being a Charlotte Area resident with my 2023 IONIQ 5 AWD Limited. I too don’t need a truck often enough so chose a hatch/lift back. 1:08:18
Thank you! Tesla is only installing version 3 (with liquid cooled cables) and has only been installing V3 for about 3 years now and V4 (immersion liquid cooling and longer cables with centered charge post) installs should be starting quite soon. V2 (air cooled cables) are "legacy" sites. The "wet rag trick" works wonders on V2 Superchargers that derate due to handle temperature (it actually cools the handle and isn't just tricking the sensor) and I'm sure I'll be using that trick on road trips in my coming Tesla.
Hope to see you around Charlotte! May need to hit you up if you're open to letting me film with your car - would be good to show my Tesla and the Ioniq 5 for a video and maybe some range / charge testing. Can you shoot me an email or a DM on Twitter? My email is on the "About" tab of the channel.
@@brandenflasch Sent and please pardon my misspelling. 🤦🏻♂️ How embarrassing and no offense intended.
Any recommended charging in key west, Fl?
Electrify America has a site there - I have a video going all the way to Key West from last December actually if you look on the channel
How did the Rivian hold its value?
Not terribly
Hey, are you 6’3”?
Yes I am
you so like it, but why sold it?
Did you watch the vehicle?
See InsideEVs story from 12/26/2023: "Rivian R1T Owner Says His Truck Has Been Out For Repairs For Eight Months for a damaged side camera"
Ok?
At 450 Wh/mile it is very inefficient.
I often got worse in my former Model S
This guy got the $5000 from Rivian. There appeared out of no where a dozen of these "yearly report" Rivian videos. It is clearly an ad campaign. "It is the best car I have ever owned" Is there an emoji for vomit? He now thinks he is a big time Hollywood producer all these youtube channel people get that Hollywood self importance so ridiculous. I hope the US gov't has a minimum time you must keep a vehicle after pocketing taxpayer $7500 He will have bought 5 in 2 years or $37.000. He drove 23,000 miles at 35 mph. His mileage was 230 watt hours. He should have done a run in Texas at their speed limits of 85mph and watched his range needle moving from 300 miles to 3 miles in a half hour. There is a german who does this on the autobahn. in his plaid. This is a flaw in BEVs that is a secret hidden better than Saddams WMDs. It is caused by eddy currents in the motor -- high rotational speeds turn it into a generator. Eddy current are actually employed to act as brakes on turning industrial machines. The axle and motor also spins very fast and heats up this is an energy sink as well. An ICE has none of these. An ice can cruise at 90 mph and use 25% more gas than cruising at 50 mph -- an EV requires almost 3 times as much energy as 90 mph vs 50mph.
You’re an idiot
Tesla seats fold down
Yes they do…
There is absolutely zero chance that Rivian can make it down the same Baja roads as a Raptor, nor take the same beating the Raptor can endure. Plus the Rivian is signifanctly faster than the Raptor. Better comparison to a truck would be a Honda Ridgeline with the performance of the Model 3 Performance, software of knock off Tesla (Think Zune vs iPod), and luxury of a RangeRover
Like a Ridgeline? Funny. Ridgeline has 7" ground clearance, R1T has 14", more than a Raptor.
@@springhillfitness6837 re read what I posted. That’s only a portion of what I’m talking about. SMH
@@Robert-pm6bm I agree with you on several points, I just think the comparison to a Honda Ridgeline is way off and kind of insulting to the Rivian owners (not me BTW). The Ridgeline is unibody and can only tow 5,000 pounds and has 7" of ground clearance. It's questionable whether it even qualifies as a truck. The Rivian is body on frame, tows 11,000 pounds, and has 14 inches of ground clearance, very respectable specs for a full size truck, and it does it as a midsize.
@@springhillfitness6837 The reference to the Ridgeline is for the size comparison alone. The rest of my comment describes the rest of the ideal comparison truck. The Ridgeline portion is just related to the size of the pickup....
CYBERTRUCK?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
*Sees video titled "I'm selling my Rivian"* - *Hits unsubscribe*. 🤔
Seems a bit dramatic 🤷♂️
@@brandenflasch selling it, you mean? Yes, it does. 🤷
@@CompTechMike Did you watch the video to understand why?
lol 8000 subscribers
Why lol?
The I truth about the Rivian. I sold it because I need to save money 🙄. Another clickbait video . 😤
Not clickbait at all, actually