Narcissistic Personalities and Murder
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Dr. Jeff Kieliszewski, Forensic Psychologist, discuses the phenomenon of people with narcissistic personalities who commit murder. #forensicpsychologist #truecrime #forensicpsychology #psychology #crime #narcissist #narcissistic #narcissisticpersonalitydisorder #narcissisticpersonality #murder
Murder is the ultimate assertion of control. By killing someone, the narcissist has reestablished control over that individual, restored supremacy and grandiosity.
Murder is anxiolytic (reduces anxiety).
My narcissistic brother who has zero empathy and is sadistic thinks he’s smarter than anyone else and killed our dad. My brother terrorized our dad for two decades. My brother wanted our dad to gift all his real estate to my brother. Our dad didn’t do it and my brother started to tell everyone that he has to kill our dad, because our dad is not willing to gift my brother all of his real estate. My brother then first poisoned our dad who became disabled, then he poisoned me and I got disabled and three years later he killed our dad. Our mother who is also a narcissist with zero empathy and sadistic is covering up for my brother. They manipulated the authorities and told them that I’m crazy, a liar and they should not believe me a word. I couldn’t make them believe me that I am telling the truth. So both haven’t spent one day in prison and I have to live with this tragic family story where there is no chance for justice.
Omg. Truly a nightmare. 💔
Your story is exactly similar to my who father got disabled by some poison and later was killed by my own brother over real estate dispute and his involvement with some dangerous groups who are not afraid of the law and the justice system in India is highly corrupted. The police didn't even bother to investigate after I lodged an online complaint against my brother for killing our father . I live abroad so luckily I'm not poisoned by my brother and his associates , gang members ....I fear that if I go to India then they would also attack me , make me disabled or worse just kill me coz their truth , crimes are known to me..
Oy vey! , similar experience for me. I was arranging and planning to move 4 hrs away after being in my brothers’ house for almost 2 years during convid lockdowns. The psychological and emotional manipulation was driving me crazy .. the more I greyrocked the worse it got even when I went away for a month visiting friends .. his girlfriend had broken up with him a year prior though they weren’t together very long ( about 3 or 4 months ) but they continued to speak with each other at least weekly. I believe he put rat poison in my food 3 weeks before I planned to move on April 17 2022. I was sick for 2 days and recovered but not once did he check on me or give a shit … if it wasn’t the poisoning that was my clue that he was very dangerous to be around it was the utter lack of caring that I was so sick for those days … a month after I moved I had a premonition of him calling me to say someone died and I told my friends of it .. exactly 1 week later my brother called me to say he ‘found’ his ex girlfriend with her brains blown out in her home .. I think he did it but can’t prove it .. she had said to me that she had left her house to him but my brother was telling me he’s not trying to get the house cuz her adult kids will make it a legal battle .. I don’t think I’d be alive today if I had stayed much longer … I was afraid of him he was so weird and crazy .. but from all outward appearances he is some fairly successful retiree .. he smiles a lot but his eyes never match it
I believe you. I am sorry you have been through this. I have family like this too.
One of the worst things about having, or having had, these people in your life is not being believed about how horrific their conduct is. And it's funny because I can see why others would not believe that the person did the things they in fact did. But the disbelief of others does multiply the pain of the invalidation we have already experienced from the narcissistic person.
My dad killed our mother shooting her right in front of me. I was the only witness. He paid an alabi. My family tried to say I was crazy like she shot herself with a shot gun? Come on what women shoot's herself with a shotgun pulling the trigger with a big toe? In front of her kid's? Yeah right. My dad admitted to me he shot her. He said when I killed your mother in his sentence. Well I told police when they came and it's documented. Well he died too many years later and he always threatened me trying to shoot me 3 different times. I'm glad my dad is dead I finally had relief after he died. PS my Mom's blood was All over me after she got shot and yes I saw it. No I wasn't crazy. Not to mention we became Orphans because of my dad killing her. He was a narcissist. My mom was a truly great God fearing person. Many people knew my dad got away with murdering my Mom. They were afraid of him because he also worked for the Italian Mafia. Interestingly I talked to and with Frank Calabrese twice. He turned in his dad. He reminded me of myself. I liked him. I understand his burden. I happened to bump into him. Anyhow I lived through it All and left it with God Almighty. I'm a survivor. And God is real. I happen to like Michael francezi whom went straight and I believe became a real Christian. But narcissist are truly evil and my 2 brothers are narcissist especially the one a year younger than me that was the Golden child having been groomed by my father. I have no family left except people I adopt as family. I have inner peace. God will take care of everything in judgement day.
My x husband was a narcissistic and did try and kill me.
Hearing you is like hearing some one describe him sadly
@solomongrundy145
You don't know me
@solomongrundy145 good question. May not be attraction. Maybe there was coercion
@solomongrundy145 they don't act like a narcissist when luring you in.
@solomongrundy145 they're very sweet in early stages when love-bombing you. I have never been in a relationship with a narcissist, but this is what is stated in all literature on narcissism. Angry *ncels find a way of blaming women for the failure of every relationship, though.
There's definitely some narcissistic traits that would make a narcissist more prone to the act of murder, lack of empathy, grandiose attitudes, especially believing they're smarter than anyone else and can outsmart the police.
They also think they own you, bent on control and sabotage and vindictive. Narcs go psychopathic when losing control and feel have no other options to control, destroy and feed off. I was poisoned for times. Live and learn but often too weak and destroyed get away
They will give there spouse AIDs
Don’t leave out the reactions, of being slighted.
My great niece in law is a narcissist. She is a know it all. No empathy. Don’t dare criticize her becomes unglued
My sister too, becomes unglued if told she's wrong. She's come after me as a teen with two knives in her hands. She has two kids. A boy and a girl. I feel she is not good for them. They would be better off if the dad had sole legal and physical custody. I would side with him in court. But unfortunately he is her puppet. He agrees with anything she says. He fears her. 😏
My mother was a malignant narc. She 9nce stormed my dad with a knife . She attacked me often, and could have killed me by always hitting me against my head. I could only leave the family at age 20, and have a permandnt struggle with anxiety and depression.
You are a living example that just because someone is abused they do not become malevolent and malignant.
Sending you a virtual hug. I experienced similar during my teens.
Remember to tell yourself you are lovable. Over and over until you believe it not in love with yourself like they were. My mother was that way too. They live in a fantasy or don’t deserve precious children. I try to look forward to the day when she’s just an irrelevant stranger. It’s been 10 years since she passed. Your real self is still in there. I’m trying to see what she did, sort of scramble the lies, and replace her words with the opposite. I’m worth it and so are you. ❤
Once you “know” who they are, you Go.. as thats when the sh#* hits the fan.
Thank you doc. I am married to a covert narcissist for 42yrs. At times i do fear that he can harm me..😢
Same position here… we aren’t alone.
Trust your intuition, go quickly and quietly. From someone who fled everything your life is worth more than anything or one you leave behind 🙏🏻🎯
He is harming you.
Omg, LEAVE!!!!!!
The Gabby Petito story to me says it all. She wasn’t even married to the monster and yet he owned her. I wonder how many women marry because of threats and coercion.
It gets much worse once there are children's lives to threaten. SO many women.
but what about all the narcissists who drive their victim to suicide, surely that is also murder? there is an equal distribution between the sexes, as many women as men. From norway🇳🇴
yes. probably more women
My ex husband pushed me to attempt suicide when that didn't work he found very sick woman to do the sickest things to me he watched like antifreeze and rat poisoning and eye drops a battery in house on charger all day night for five months has made me with multiply serous health problems sti lead poison
My brother tried to do that to his wife of over 30 years. VILE
God help you!
Thank you, she took my daughter from me who was a lovely person 💔 I knew nothing about narcissism, knowledge is power!!
It's easy to forger that these personalities are created in the crucible of verbal and emotional abuse in childhood, where they do not have the opportunity to learn how to connect in healthy ways with positive care givers. Their inner world is like a kaleidoscope of disjointed colors, instead of a cohesive and accurate picture of reality, and their coping mechanisms are very primitive. It's heartbreaking and sad, but we need always be careful in our pity for them - and definitely keep our distance.
Thanks for posting such a great over view of these dangerous personalities.
Great points! Thanks for chiming in.
Not true. The field of psychology is a complete fraud and they lie to cover up the fact these creatures are all born evil. They are all predators and predators can't be victims. They do not become narcissists due to anything in the environment. Their brain is physically different. Environment does not cause a brain to shape shift. It is true they often have parents that are narcissists because it is genetic and runs in families. They have no empathy, they have no capacity to feel love, compassion, or remorse. Worse they feel extreme hatred, rage, envy and vengeance. They feel extreme pleasure for the harm, stress, trauma, terror, pain, injury and even death they cause. They have an obsessive need to control other people. So the claim that they have a fear of abandonment is a blatant lie. The field of psychology lies about them to protect them because narcissists rule the world. They do have a huge fear however of losing control of other people and when they perceive they may lose control of someone they victimize they become extremely dangerous. These creatures all lie to claim they are victims because they use their victim status to exploit and victimize other people. Feeling pity or extending any emotion at all to them is the worst thing anyone can do because they will always exploit that to gain control of someone they target. The field of psychology lies about them to protect them because narcissists rule the world.
Plenty are spoiled, entitled brats that never suffered the consequences of their actions
Not always. Sometimes, many times, they are the entitled golden child
@@marmaladesunriseexactly
Narcissists actually hate themselves, they know what they do is wrong
As a German Biologist
this is about Entitlement and Justification
to ALWAYS be RIGHT
And get smart Paladins and Bodyguards
to defend you all time
even sacrificing themselves for YOU.
Takes intense Social Awareness Training to see that...
The Tate brothers come to mind
My last ex is definitely a malignant narcissist of sociopathic or psychopathic proportions or tendencies. Years ago in 2016, that ex talked in a candy shop about kids choking on those tennis ball sized candies which were meant to be broken into pieces for consumption, not licked upon in the mouth. I found it strange but just chalked it down to a joke. Bad mistake. I got discarded months later, but that ex didn't stop harassing. Sent 'friends' who were probably former bedfellows, colleagues, and acquaintances to check in on me and my social media nonstop till now. The police won't as much as help me or issue restraining orders against these people. Narcissists are extremely capable of crimes even if not murder.
Flying monkeys
Ya, you really need to pay attention to those off comments, thing that seem cold, sadistic, mean sp, sexually inappropriate, boundary crossing. Dangerous.
my family tried killing me they’re extremely narcissistic and destroyed my reputation… nobody believes me and i don’t know what to do
my mother did the same thing to my grandfather (he was on the same anti clot medication i am on) for her inheritance and a spot at the trailer park they own on a lake. she wants my 401k because she can’t afford property taxes
she tried controlling my blood thinners just like she did with him (also used vitamin k iin cookies which deadly to people like me)
i’m in grand rapids michigan if any lawyers see this i intend to sue her for her years of abuse
@@grandmamoses6977 i’m having my phone recording every time i leave my room. i’m stuck here unfortunately
@@grandmamoses6977 they never taught me
how to do anything so i’m 33 and completely dependent on them. codependency
Dudes in gangs are mostly narcs for sure. They know they are too, they profess their philosophy. Gang culture is narc culture. Narc have networks so large they are a significant part of our society. Also due to the participation of non narcs who behave that way at times which contributes to the narc narrative of the way the world is.
Drug dealers and pimps definitely have narc vibes.
listening to gang music tells you all you need to know
@@HomeFromFarAway All music is gang music because it is used to differentiate different collectives of narc cultural power collective units. The entire cultre is gang culture, hence the dungeons, the nukes and the wars. What was Hitler's favorites band? Wagner? How many people killed in Ukraine and the Middle East in the last year? Not a single person of millions involved listen to rap. How do these collective stack so many body's and gaslight their philosophy? Rap is a form of crude "gang music" while all other forms are covert, "refined" gang music. The collective that belong to the refined gang music are the one with the genocidal body counts and globally tyranny while rap is for the poor gangs on the block.
I being stalked at this time. A man I don’t call back, because all he ever says on my voicemail is are you mad at me. He shows up at my door. I hate it. This means he’s watching my moves.
Document absolutely everything. Tell a safe neighbor what’s going on. 🙏🙏
And go to a lawyer who can take you to make a report to the police.
Have you asked him not to call or visit you anymore? You'd need to start there, because he will otherwise claim that he didn't realize it bothered you. Record that conversation. Follow the steps the other commenters have given you above, especially if you're not able to move away.
I sympathize. I was stalked by a much older man until early last year. He's married with children, and we're distantly related, but he got sexually obsessed. He kept calling and leaving voicemails until I got an app from my phone company that could block them. He was also spending time around my place at 1 AM, describing modifications to my car in voicemails. I know he's dangerous, because he threatened to "mash up everything I have in there" with a hammer when I wouldn't let him in (I knew what he wanted, and he'd chased me around inside before). He stopped when my mother talked to his, until he found a way to message me on Google hangouts at Christmas. She won't let me report him to police. He'd be deported. I'll do it if he starts again. I'm hoping to move by the end of this year.
Get a camera!
My mom is a narc… went to court for murder in 2008, beat the charges.
She beat them even again with no 2016. That was a different case.
It’s like she is magic and incapable of getting caught. People only see a beautiful woman with a great sense of humor.
There IS something special about her, not in a good way, she is definitely admired by others without much trying.
When her trainer called her fat I thought… There goes your life , poor lady.
Does long con torture by a narc that ends in suicide count as murder? Probably not.
How about this one: If a narc. person drive his or her spouse by nagging etc to start using alcohol and ends up becoming a full fledge drunk and drinks him or self to death. To me this is systematic murder and as far as I can see the law does not do anything because the drunk has done it to hm or her self. This question has been sitting on my mind for a long time.
My ex-narc tried killing me by driving me into suicide and he almost succeeded. When my daughter told him I was in hospital after taking an overdose his reaction was: "Goodness, she's even too stupid to topple herself." 😢
nagging is different from henpecking or gaslighting. I agree that psychological abuse can lead to suicide but the correct word is not nagging
Narcs usually murder by suicide or scapegoat doctor
My adopted mother, I got diagnosed 10 years after she passed away. There trauma bond is so strong that it can take years after they pass to question their behavior. I hate that all these horrible events happened to these people. And I believe that we have stuck our head in the sand for too long and this is the consequence of our parents and grandparents bad behavior. Maybe when Regan shutdown the facilities back in the 80s led to this fallout. Could be. Or maybe, people are finally feeling safe to come out and speak up and need help. The shame is being removed out of urgency to these serious behavioral problems that are hurting other innocent people. The sane. It’s not bad to hang out our dirty laundry like it used to be and people can’t afford therapy. All I really want to say is that I understand the feeling of being totally left out. My adopted mother took my dog to the pound behind my back and had him put down. Because she wanted to move into an apartment closer to her love interest. I always wondered why, about a lot of things. And it’s hard to admit to yourself that your parent was so distorted in their view of the world. There were so many consequences for my life because of this stranger. But I’m a fighter. And I believe that if you have a person in your life that ever harms you in any way, leave them and never look back. To me, the excuse of a mental disorder being allowed to harm the feelings, needs and future of a child is evils in our world. Because there’s no food in it and creates only negative in our environment. Any influence of a negative value onto another person life is evil when they can’t feel the pain of another person and it’s blacked out due to their disassociated state, it’s like the walking dead. Because I believe they are half dead. And that’s enough for me to see that it’s not good to perpetuate it. I wish all of you hear good for your future. Watch “Seize the Day” with Robin Williams. A 1986 movie about how a parent like this damages a child’s inner psyche. And always tell yourself, “I am Lovable”. No matter what anyone says or thinks. That’s is just an opinion I say above all others. We’ll fight for our sanity and no matter what, we all need to take this rash of insanity very seriously. We as a community need a solid foundation to be strong against it. It’s sneaky, and it will take us down if we can’t trust even our own families. God bless everybody here.
All psychopaths are Narcissists but not all Narcissists are psychopaths. They are all dangerous, however.
Good point. Thanks..
All humans are Narcissists, but not all humans are pathological Narcissists.
Same thing, doesn't really tell the whole picture
Many times women also with pity plays which are false character assaination of partner.
Great presentation.
Thank you for sharing.
Thanks!
Thanks for all the comments.. Now I now that I am not the only none running i into these problems.
Spot on .same as mine
Thanks so much for this education. This subject on mental issues are very relevant in society today. Having knowledge in this field is beneficial. God bless. ❤
I often fear that my father wants me dead he has all the characteristics of a narcissist he lacks empathy , he violates boundaries ,he loves being malicious ,making false accusations ,he acts like he can do no wrong ,he likes being a control freak ,he loves bullying ,gaslighting my reality , he's very self centered , he acts arogant , playing mind games , etc . I believe he's capable of murder !
Thank you for the content very insightful ❤
They also objectify and dehumanise I think that plays into it.
Yeah and not just an intimate partner but ANY supply. Dehumanizing is the term. They literally hurt people with their minds!
Thank you... You are right. Great choice of words.
Thanks for the info.
My parent's and Narc sibling brother have all took turns at HARM for me to create THEIR harm money.
Thank you…..
Holds No Gender
Women are better at poison men will use a gun more often.
Both genders of narc are evil.
Agreed. I don't think one can delineate male narc patterns from female narc patters. I also observe the sexual identity and preferences of many narcs are quite fluid.
@@l.5832 I’ve noticed the same.
I would like to know how many Narcs. incite, or provoke fights (therefore violence).
Answer: All of them
My son is truly a narcissist, self entitled me me me personality, & a psychopath, he abused me for a year after my husband died, & hia sperm donor & his mama are just narcissist!!! I keep them in my prayers!!!
yep
And it gives them the boost if they know your life insurance policy is to expire on your birthday in 2 months. That and being married and you just met a girl half your age. I asked for a separation after he let the air out of the jack of the car i was under. It didntblast but I had found a fake fingernail in his duffle bag while doing laundry. His underware bag to be exact. Ive never had a leisurely enough life to ever wear fake nails.
I do have some of the traits mentioned but one I see in many vids like this, is the self love, this is definately not the case with me, although I am aware that the BPD am diagnosed with is somewhat similar.
Calm down theres narcissist in the market business courts especially in law enforcement IRS Department of motor vehicles and more
You have no idea what you are talking about.
What happens when Narcissists get into positions of power?
They can often use that position of power to manipulate more people.
@@dr.jeffkieliszewskiforensi3081 what famous leaders of the past were thought to be Narcissists?
@solomongrundy145 Yes, I am sure a lot of them are!
The disorder becomes worse and they believe they are untouchable from the law catching upto them.
Look at the world leaders that are destructive.
A window is a light source, and you should never have a light source in front of the camera. Just saying.
Its far more in females
Megalomaniac
Which are more dangerous... covert or overt narcissists... I'm guessing covert
Covert are more dangerous because you can’t identify them as easily.
A grandiose narcissist you can see the behavior of more readily and can just avoid them. But a covert weaves their way into your life acting like a victim. These people use your own feelings of injustices against you in order to manipulate you to feel sorry for them. But it’s all an act to get what they want out of you.
Hope I’ve helped.
This is very true Edward trying to murderer me for crack money heist a social worker for kids but be sleeping with the client mother on CRACK and he was trying to posion me for crack money
I am amazing.
Dion Tillman here get your.Gun.,,Bubba,,
Dion Tillman here I'm sorry for this matter but there is overkill enough already, plenty of shit going on, quit talking about, murder, where have you been,,,what do you have to offer,,not entertainment just getting started I got a million of em
Narcissist is an overused term these days.
Yeah, I would not argue against you. It kind of comes down to..... How many narcissist traits do you need be a full "narcissist"? Sometimes, a lot of confidence can look like narcissism. And, is simply being a self-centered person doesn't necessarily mean you are a full blown narcissist?
@@dr.jeffkieliszewskiforensi3081 I would guess that you would have to be more than self-centered to be diagnosed with narcissism.
It comes down to three main things, an entitlement where it doesn't belong, an exploiter and a manipulator as in control of some sort. So in other words, lies, steals and deceives
@@muma6559 I have only known one clinically diagnosed narcissist. He exaggerated more than outright lied. He thought mostly about himself and was mean. But I wouldn't have said he lied, stole and deceived. However, I quit being friends with him pretty quickly as he was so mean and unreasonable.
@@Catlily5 being mean is manipulation and exaggerating is lying
True, my sisis a maligmant narc -and I live in fear of her. She's done some evil stuff. Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Does she work for Hamas??
Trump is not a narc, but Biden is 1000%
Trump is a full fledged narcissist and has many of the traits!!! I have not seen any of the traits in Biden! Yiu are just making a hate statement not based on fact! I was a Trump supporter but it was wholly embarrassing to see the narcissism. Open your eyes! Maybe learn what narcissism is by watching Dr Les Carter on RUclips! There’s a lot to it! Not just arrogance!
Wrong.