Harley 2024 Digital Dash Infotainment Control Unit-I HAVE SOME THINGS TO SAY......🤨
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- Now coming on select 2024 Harley-Davidson touring models is the infotainment control unit (IFCU) digital dash system, replacing all analog gauges. After using and testing this digital dash system extensively, I have some things you need to know about it.
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Hey satellite radio has an app where you can listen to It through your phone.
Back on March 7th, I took a '24 Street Glide for a test ride.
Didn't care for the feel or the digital look at all along with the gawdy looking plastic speaker grills.
Instead I settled on a brand new '23 Ultra Limited because I'm a fan of analog gauges.
Just put Sirius XM on your iPhone for $4 per month and bluetooth to your system...works perfect.
2 weeks ago I went to my local dealer (2 hours away), with cash in hand. Walked out with a new '23. A part of that was the gauges. Among other items was the dual headlight vs. single, liquid cooling, mirror location, and general overall looks. The '24's took all of the Willie G. right out of the design.
Thank you for your videos Ryan they are so helpful. Harley definitely drops the ball when it comes to teaching, showing and or training their customer base with regards to things like HD ride planner or digital - infotainment control unit. I guess it’s osmosis., trial and error etc. We’re just supposed to magically know how things are supposed to work to their full potential. You would think if you’re spending between 25,000 to $50,000 on a motorcycle short videos would be like cheap, low, hanging fruit. Thank God for Law Abiding Biker and RUclips.
Thanks much!! appreciate it.
For all you pre-24 model folks…and especially pre-gts bikes…I just installed the Soundstream Reserve. HDHU14+ unit and it’s an absolute banger; at 1/4 the price of a GTS unit. Or you could go with the slightly more tech heavy HDHUsi version which is still 1/2 the price of a GTS. All the 2020’s tech you could ask for in a mid 00’s bike. Money well spent.
But still no connection to a wireless headset
Diamond audio has a head unit (MSHD14) out also. I installed it myself it has built in CarPlay and Bluetooth with a 10 channel DSP & Bluetooth line driver for maximum sound. It’s SXM ready and has a beautiful user interface. Paid $1400 CND.
They are also going to be releasing something for the 2013’s down soon.
For my SXM radio needs, I use the app through Apple Car Play. Now I can stream my favorite channels and XM shows through one account in any vehicle I drive or bike I ride.
Correct, works until you lose a cellular connection, then SXM stops working on your phone. That was why many had satelite based XM radio.
I bought the tutorial video from you. Normally I figure these things out on my own, but there’s an absolute return on investment with your video.
Harley did a great job with the 2024 Road Glide and Street Glide. When you see reviewers who are primarily sport bike riders giving great reviews, Harley did it right. A lot of traditional Harley riders are struggling with the screen. In part, that’s me. For Harley to gain market share with younger generations, these changes are imperative.
Great to hear! I appreciate it. I put so many hours and effort into that tutorial video, it's really nice to hear.
I will stay with my 2020RKS
Good morning sir! Thank you so much for the amazing and quality content. I just ordered the full video on the infotainment system from your website last night.
I still have a question that I’m not sure if you have come crossed:
Can you connect the passenger Harley branded Cardo unit to be able to listen to the Apple CarPlay? Or can they only listen to Apple Music through the Cardo app?
Thank you for all you do!
Just purchased the 2024 Street Glide, Im 68 and not tech-savvy at all. But I found the new infotainment system to be great and not as big a learning curve as I expected. Thanks for all the helpful information, its been very informative. I love being able to see the large digital gauges and being able to arrange the display. I just happen to get a new iphone at the time of purchase and already used Cardos. Im old school as well but made the leap and love everything about this bike. Bike is smooth, suspension is so much better, cooler on my legs and love having carplay. RDRS is worth every dime. No regrets best Harley Ive owned! Great channel keep the content coming on the new 2024 Street Glide. Thanks.
Ryan, thanks for the videos- because you're safety conscious, do you offer or can you recommend a direct replacement "louder" horn for the 2024 Street Glide? Thank you
I got a 77 flh at 17yrs old Im 60 now I have 2 old shovelheads and a 13 ultra classic I spend more time trying to dismantle all the software instead of upgrading 😂 Rock on Ryan!
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Ryan, thank you to you and the crew on all the great videos. I noticed during this video you have a different gas tank cover. I have a 2020 Limited and was wondering what you replaced the OEM cover for? I have never really liked the push button gas covers and have not been able to find a decent replacement. Was wondering if you might tell me what that is, or is the only specific to the 24 models? Thank you again for all the great videos.
Thanks for the updated information. Purchased your user videos and they were most helpful. I have the new IFCU purchased the beginning of March activated by Harley on the new bike. Was able to update the software for the amplifier and system myself. My IFCU doesn’t see my Apple i-phone 14 hot spot. It does see my in house routers. All my other computer devices in my house see and connect to my hot spot from my phone. I have the Harley branded cardo pac talk. Any suggestions? XM Sirius has an app that works with Apple car play as long as your phone stays connected. 😊
I have the 24. Harley now lets you download the map, requires the vin of the bike for the Nav upgrade. Also don’t forget that with the old system, you could do the ride planner easily but once you loaded it into the bike it would recalculate a different route, unless you used a ton of waypoints. So the old way wasn’t exactly awesome either.
Yah, that just happened within the past few days.
@@RyanUrlacher I just bought a 2024 Street Glide. In your opinion is it worth the $350 for the embedded GPS .software?
Curious as to length of the boot up process. My old boom box took several minutes to boot and connect to phone....most times just back to either the radio or static. I hope this was resolved.
Does it have Voice Assistant feature? Can we do phone call, navigation etc. by voice commands?
Ryan - Thanks for the info, I've been trying to find out what the difference is between the Cardo Packtalk Edge vs the Harley brand version. Sounds like you are using the Cardo version and it works great. No need to pay the extra for the Harley brand. Keep up the great work!
One unrelated question Ryan. With the latest gts software update will android auto still work? At some point AA will be disabled or just stop working due to Google dropping it.
Seen one at the show room. I asked them about the 115 plus degree heat like what we have here in the desert areas of the western of the US
Just bought a '24 Road Glide. It has the Skyline OS update. Part of the update was the addition of HD radio both on AM and FM.
I'm in a large metro area that has tons of HD stations broadcasting. When tuned to a HD station there are secondary channels that show on the screen. Problem is I can't access them. For example, a station will show HD 1 2 3 indicating there are two other channels available. My experience with HD in my four wheelers is that you access secondary channels by toggling the channel advance. When I try that the radio changes frequencies not available channels. I've tried everything and can't get to the secondaries.
Any thoughts?
Ryan, I did download the maps/GPS at home after purchase via my laptop. It downloaded after I turned the bike off and back on again. Used my house WiFi.
Great, that just happened within the past few days.
Interesting, I like the look of the new IFCU unit. I just bought a 20022 TriGlide so I won't have one for awhile. Of course, They didn't even put them on the 2024 TriGlides anyways. Great information anyways.😎😎
That new IFCU is a big change. Impressive none the less
You can upgrade the software. Harley just released an update. I was able to update it.
Great, that just happened within the past few days.
On the Tour screen can you program what information is displayed on the left screen? Can I have the number of miles remaining of gas?
I show you that and SOOO MUCH MORE HERE ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/ifcu
ok so question the old system needed to be a branded head set or else the sound was horrible "Mono Sound".. Is it the same with this new skyline OS meaning will you get all the features with a unbranded Cardo?
That and more in my IFCU tutorial video ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/ifcu. Don't need branded Cardo for stereo sound and all functions. ==> shop.lawabidingbiker.com/search?q=cardo
Can't use a CB in the new system either. I think I heard somewhere that there is a PTT button but no one knows what it is for. I know it's old technology but, the group I ride with still use it. We wear 1/2 helmets and some no helmets so the mesh network is not an option for us.
Harley Davidson keeps taking features away and charging more. It just doesn't make sense to me.
they didn't take CB away they finally put it in the grave where it belonged, I could only imagine how minuscule the amount of users like yourself still used CB. I've been riding for 30 years and have never ridden with anyone that uses or used it.
@@603HD1 well we like them especially when we have a large group of riders. That's fine you never used them but for some of us it is nice to have.
BUT, you missed the whole point I was trying make, we've had things on bikes for years and years, and they start removing things off of them and charge us more for less. Now with the 2024's, we can't even add what we've had on previous bikes.
Really I'm not trying to get into a pissing match with you over old technology vs. new. Some people like things differently than others and that's fine. I prefer the best of both worlds and definitely having options that I want.
@@markkramer2908 not starting anything here my point was only that you and your group are very much the exception it can't be expected everything is maintained forever.
Is there an update to make android auto work with this headunit?
I'm keeping my 2012 ultra. My Garman motorcycle GPS is far superior to any in dash GPS ( I have BMW and Honda also ) . I prefer the simplicity of anolog guages and ease of changing my stereo system. Old school just works better for me ( I'm 61 )
Thanks for video!
My pleasure!
I bought my navigation online, and it has been ready to purchase for over a week
Yes, that has now happened on the website.
Maybe Navigation is not ready....
Purchased a 2024 Street Glide in Ontario, Canada and the navigation/gps comes included at no extra expense.
Heard its the same in France, USA buyers getting ripped off
My manufacturer updates my firmware, sometimes it’s free, other times it’s $50 at the dealership. My biggest problem is stable employees at dealerships. I tend to ignore the bells and whistles available on the dash. I just used a mounted Garmin gps unit. My phone is over 7 years old. It cost me about $600 for the Garmin and the mount. Installed it myself. I don’t want any distractions on the dash. That entire dash is a negative for me. Free map updates and firmware from Garmin. No bugs found on the Garmin.
Why would a MFG put a product out with no document on how to use it?
The Manuel tells you how to use it.
REMEMBER when being IN THE WIND meant Simplicity? like a map folded up in your leathers. good grief. keep the PC at home. Geez
Harley trying to expand into the younger market. Those folks don't know how to use a paper map 😂
That's the reason why I am more of a roadking guy Clean and simple
Top tier motorcycles should have no subscription fees for gps. Honda has no issue with android auto, and it is included in the 24 Goldwing
The way he explained it was that you can't get it in a newly designed system...is the Honda system brand new or a carryover from previous years? It sounds like you can keep using it on existing platforms that had it originally so maybe that is why the Honda still has it? Just guessing based on what was stated. However I wouldn't ever put it past HD to just totally make things up :) or tell partial truths.
@packfan73 As far as I know and can find out, android auto has bluetooth integration disabled so your phone needs to be plugged in but it still is being developed for and updated.
It really hasnt supported bluetooth integration for a couple of years, though so i am not sure how the new system differs from boom system in that.
@@rollandklontz I am not sure in that point for the new system. Another thing that seems strange, this whole thing about 2 wheels. Were there specific features for 2 wheels in android auto?
@packfan73 Probably radio specific settings or app. I haven't found a specific "motorized 2 wheel" setting for either android auto or car play.
Which more than likely breaks it down to a licensing thing between HD and Google.
@@rollandklontz Probably, I just can't think of what would be '2 wheel' specific for either platform...handle bar controls are no different then steering wheel controls really, send a signal to navigate the screen to the radio. Just seems like a cop out to me on the no MC support crap. But that is the HD line, not that they ever misdirected things to others before...
I hear a lot of people having problems with that new system on the Harleys
By Harvey recommend getting a sound stream radio
So many issues with HD infotainment system, I just went with the Soundstream HDHU.14SI. Such a better system.
Question. Can you be riding and put in a destination?
Yes, via voice commands
I know this video was just posted , but how along ago was it filmed? Skyline updates have been public and the ability to purchase navigation has been out for a few weeks now
About the time the changes happened, my video had already been recorded. Everyone is aware now and I've added additional video files free for those that have my tutorial video. ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/ifcu
No Sirius XM…I’m out. Was planning to upgrade to 24 but I think I’ll keep riding my 2016 FLHXS with GTS upgrade.
The temptation is high to trade my 19 RGS for a new street or road glide
Still have. The same question that no one seems to answer. Can I pair my HD branded 30k sena headsets to this new system with full functionality or will you have to replace with a new HD cardio set. Scraping the 1000 buck investment in whim and headset just to back where you started is not good.
I explain that in this video. give it a watch.
Hmm I missing something then
Watched it 3 times didn't see an answer to full compatibility of older HD Branded headsets vs the new cadio
The guys who don’t care for the digital accouterments still have the Road King. Those who just need the fairing and don’t like the digital “accessorization” can place the thing on instruments and leave it be. Not really an issue if you take a wee peak up over the edge of the box you’re sitting in.
If I get the infotainment video, how do i watch it like what platform etc ?
Plays just like a youtube video. Vide player comes with it. It's just an online video ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/ifcu
All I need is it to bluetooth to my android for Spotify. So I'm happy.
Subscription fees will only get worse if we, as consumers, allow them to do it by paying the fees.
My phone doesnt like to work under water , i wonder how that system will work in heavy rain ?
Works fine. I know many that have ridden in heavy rains with it.
I still don’t like that the gauges are in the digital display. If you have a screen issue, you have no gauges.
And isn’t it true that you must have headset connected to use CarPlay?
I tell you that and more here ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/ifcu
Always appreciate your videos! Just wanted to let you know that you can now update the IFCU yourself. The updates are available on the Harley website and the software. You just need a couple of high-speed thumb drives. I tried it with 150 Mb per second and one of the updates would not load. I then purchased a Samsung 400 Mb per second thumb drive and it worked.
Great, yes, that just happened within the past few days. Thx for sharing.
Regardless who's at fault, the lack of support for Android Auto means I'm going to pass on the new models for now and upgrade the head unit on my 2018 Road Glide to the SoundStream Reserve V2 which supports Wireless Android Auto.
You mean I can't use the navigation system on my 2024 TriGlide?
My understanding is that you need the Harley branded Cardo headsets if you want the VOX intercom to work thru the bike. Can anyone confirm or deny that?
Harley engineers told me that VOX won't work with a non branded Cardo. I have not had time to test that yet. Planning on it.
@@RyanUrlacher I can confirm that the VOX intercom thru the bike does not work with the Harley branded Sena 30 units. I have a 23.5 CVO road glide and it came with one ot the HD Sena 30 headsets. I purchased a second HD sena 30 and tried the intercom. No vox but the PTT button worked sometimes but not reliably.
I am still on the 2012 Roadglide I purchased new and still happy with it, but… this new touring model has my eye in ways the Rushmore bikes never did. My dealer is trying hard to get me to ride one of the 24’s and I’ll probably give one a test ride.
Harleys track record on new tech and frankly new anything is sketchy at best. 14 and up infotainment as you mentioned, M8 oil pumps and sumping that took way too long to sort out.
My big concern is that everything about the bike goes through that screen. If that screen decides to glitch out, then what. Are we then sitting on a brick?
Not so bad if you are using the bike for bar hopping and close to home rides but if that dies in the middle of nowhere like a lot of riders travel, then what do we do.
I may buy a new one, I want some more beta testers to go through the troubleshooting process first.
30 to 50 thousand call or motorcycle and you have to pay for navigation does it come with sumping and oil transfer. No charge
Sirius XM has an app now if you’re a subscriber. I use it all the time on my Harley and in my garage because I’ve got a membership on my truck.
Correct. Been out a long time. But, it's not satellite. It relies on cellular serviced.
If I have to scrap the HD branded headsets and replace with cardo to use the new system I'm not buying a new bike until my current headsets no longer work lol
I have an ID.4 and Ride Command…. And I agree. They both suck really hard.
i had my dealer purchase the navagation software and then went home connected my bike to wifi and down loaded it no problem
Great, as of today the buy button is now on the Harley page. that just happened within the past few days.
also in reguards to sirus radio i just run it through apple play which you probablyknow thanks for your time sir
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FYI.... " In the friction zone" has a fix for anfroid users on the new models
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Thanks!!
I'll stick with no radio I'm good with my 07 fxst
Yah, I have a bike with radio and several without. This IFCU is much more than a radio though. It's your gauges and everything.
why can't they just use Garmin for the nav with lifetime maps and a great radio maker for the radio/audio portion? Why do they feel they have to remake the wheel all the time
I use Garmin when riding off road adventure. It has it's fair share of issues and glitched.
@@RyanUrlacher Most garmin's are not meant for off-road use or adventure riding.
Here's an idea! maybe when an android device is connected, Harley can make the new head unit identify as a car. What difference does it make how many wheels the vehicle has. It's not like the motorcycle takes different roads, or navigates them in a different way. There's always a way to make it work, Harley just has to be willing to do it.
Not sure, but I think there's also legal agreements that have to be met to use a particular software etc. Not claiming I know all the details of that.
Not having built in Bluetooth is a major omission. The, having to add a Harley BT adaptor and forced to use a Harley BT headset is unacceptable.
The new system on my 2024 Road Glide sucks too! Buggy and basic
All ya really need is the biker gripper and an iPhone
Yeah bro
So tell me professor - how does Honda have Android auto on their 2024 models if GOOGLE discontinued it for MCs? I've looked all over the Internet for Google not supporting AA on MCs and there is nothing out there. No bulletins from Google stating that fact and the only place you will find that info is onHD forums or HDs website. My guess is one of 2 things happened here - HD wanted to cut costs by supporting only 1 phone platform so they chose the fruit company OR AA isn't supported on Skyline OS which would make choosing this OS a terrible choice by HD.
Well, you missed the information I stated in the video. You see, Honda is using old head units already made with Android Auto in them previoulsy to being put in 2024 bikes. I said that in this video; that a previous head unit with Android Auto will stil have it. The IFCU is a brand new developed system and Google is not supporting it. I understand your frustration. Just get a hold of Google on that.
@@RyanUrlacher get a hold of Google is a funny statement. They don't have a 1-800 complaint number or even an email listing.
I know you BELIEVE what HD is telling you about AA but I don't. There should be some sort of service bulletin or announcement from Google stating that they no longer support MCs but there is nothing out there.
Still waiting for the Android Auto information.
So far from what I have seen there have been a lot of issues with the system. Yeah firmware updates can fix those things but how long will Harley continue to support it. As with any electronics after 10-15 years it'll be obsolete and expensive to fix/ replace. Harley doesn't do a good job of implementing new technology.
I hate that Harley ALWAYS half-asses things…….
Full-ass prices though! 😆
This video offers a unique perspective.
If you need contacts inside Indian to directly report your infotainment bugs to, I can put you in contact with the right people.
Absolutely can’t stand that Harley is making people pay for navigation that has always been free. If I ever get that dash I will 100% find a way to bypass the fee
And in a few years, it'll be obsolete. Then you're stuck with it
Call me a dinosaur. Couldn't care less about bells and whistles.
My 2010 FLHTC has a CD player, more than enough for me. Just something else to break, these high tech upgrades.
Who needs that screen? My 2010 E-glide has only RPM, voltage, fuel and speed, and no radio or GPS. Thats more then enough for a motorcycle. 🤣
And my 2016 Dyna Low Rider S doesn't have it. There are many bikes and models to choose from for every rider.
There's no such thing as a "10 minute software update" especially from Harley!
Interestingly, on the Boom Box when I did updates it was less than 10 minutes. We'll see
Computers belong on a desk, not on a motorcycle. I ride to get away from that crap. Just give me a true ANALOG speedometer and throw ALL that other crap in the trash.
HD gone has to far with the IFCU ,the 2020 models was enough .
Still no oil pressure or engine temperature data….👎
They have engine temp display but not pressure
@@roadglidehoss I believe that it displays ambient temperature. But I could be wrong. I’m a traveler, it’s important to know the engine temperature. Last year on my TC, pushed 30 psi oil pressure while engine was pushing 300 degrees at 85mph buzzing through NV in July. So hot that my hydraulic clutch lost its prime. Anyhow, the MoCo needs to make oil and engine information viewable.
Correct.
If you put your display in sport layout and scroll through the trip and tire pressure menus, the first menu will show ambient temp in top left and engine temp bottom right.
I went through this with a Harley salesperson and we could not get any engine info other than fuel level and engine temp. I assume coolant temp.
I’m a gauge guy and if I had a gauge on everything I could not be happier.
Automakers are trending away from too much engine info on the dash because it confuses some drivers. Questions like why does my oil pressure fluctuate is over the heads of most of the driving public. I like to know and understand, not everyone cares or understands what the instruments are feeding back.
Completely independent? Well, I like most of your content but when you're accepting exclusive invitations from the MoCo, there is enough doubt about that statement. I am sure you can appreciate that thought pattern considering all the information that we're expected to accept without question over the last 3 years or so. You also seem to preemptively gaslight anyone who express and report their frustrations with tech that has been around for years. I bet I am not the only who can easily discern this pattern in your videos. But sure.....
Thanks
You should certainly listen to episode 355 of the Law Abiding Biker Podcast. You'll think differently and have a understanding of the facts. Thanks, listen here ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/355
Sounds like one big POS! Don't have to worry about that BS with my Road King
Well thank you. Seems like something I should stay away from.
half way again.... BS nobody needs.... I am Happy Roadking owner
FYI - The 2024 Honda Goldwing fully supports both Carplay and Android Auto.
Harley is lying to you.
As I stated in this video, those are old existing head units in the 2024 Goldwing that already had Android Auto. Show me a link or evidence.
I've searched several times, and I've yet to see any statement from Google that supports what Harley's salespeople are saying.
In fact, I've yet to see an official statement from Harley on this issue - have you? 🤔
The new Soundstream head units have Android Auto so I am calling bullshit on Harley saying that Google doesn't support Android auto for 2 wheels
it make mad that it dont have android auto i call bullsh*t
You mean you didn't know harley davidson is trying to be apple :-) yeah harley lost out on a sale from me because no android auto :-)
Check out " In the friction zone". He has a way to connect android auto on the new models 👍. Hi from Sydney Australia 🤟
Hi guys,
" In the friction zone" has great videos re the new models and amongst them he has a way to connect android auto to the new models. 🤟
@@kmeades43 yes i got his setup but it bull that u have to us 4 devices to make it work
Buy a smart helmet, leave this stuff off the motorcycle… Wow! Thanks Ryan
You bet!
one becomes fed up listening to endless excuses why top of the line products are delivered with any deficiencies and/or malfunctions... give me a break
Harley understands that they don’t need satellite radio because people have phones, but they don’t understand that phones have free GPS? Leave it to the non American CEO to run an American motorcycle company. Couldn’t pay me to ride these modern 2 wheeled computers. Somehow everyone was perfectly happy before we had these stupid things. I’m not some old guy complaining about computers either, I’m a 31 year old software developer. Probably an outlier for my age group, but I’ll keep my 2011 Heritage till I die. Speakers and phone mount, nothing else needed.
FYI: You don't need satellite for GPS. You can simply download maps to your phone and GPS still works fine without cellular service.
Complete Junk as Always !!!!!