WATCHING SHE HULK S1| E3 + E4 FOR THE FIRST TIME REACTION/ COMMENTARY | MCU
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Fun fact; all those comments about the me too movement and "givng hulk powers to a woman" were taken from social media posts announcing and promoting the She-Hulk series and added into the show.
woah
That makes sense
Also from all the Captain Marvel comments.
Love how She Hulk made fun of incels/Anti-SJWs that will attack it regardless just for existing. She Hulk was a great show and can't wait to see more Jennifer.
Yeah, because that's the funniest part of superhero comic books, right ?...
Right ?
One thing about this show is that is not just about Jen becoming a superhero, but finding herself and getting comfortable with the fact that she is a Hulk
So it's not as it was advertised. IT's not about a superhero? I guess I just don't get the appeal then. It also just feels very sad. Are we mean to root for Jen? Are we supposed to be on her side?
She could be saving people with her abilities, but she seems so completely incapable of recognizing the gift that she was given. It's like someone was given a hundred billion dollars, and can't see how much good they could do.
@@tbirdguy1 Well there's plenty of comics about characters who didn't chose to be heroes. And we all know she will become one eventually. But not yet, and there's nothing wrong with that.
@@tbirdguy1 it was advertised as a lawyer show
@@tbirdguy1 It's true to the comic books.
@Ur Bent and they couldn’t even do that right🤣. Love how the writers admitted they didn’t know what they were doing lol
Fun episode. Wong was my favorite part of this episode. I loved they called out the haters of the She-Hulk series. I also loved the nod to She-Hulk's comic origin in this episode.
So glad Monica really likes this show, I knew she would. it gets far too much hate. Its actually fun to rewatch every now and then due to its light hearted-ness.
Madisynn was annoying at first but she grows on you so much...she is easily the best surprise of the series. Loved her ❤
That character works because of the actress. Normally, I find those characters annoying, but she's so damn good at it. Much of that performance had to be ad-lib. Stuff like picking up the bell from Wong's TV stand and ringing it, that stuff makes the character.
I need her to be in DS3 training at Kamar-Taj.
If she’s not in the next Doctor Strange movie, we riot.
@@gregstephens agreed
Nah we need a Wong sorcerer supreme show with her as his co-Star. Lol
madisynn is literally my favourite person in the mcu 😂
Great reaction, I love the fact that you guys get this. Too many reactors were taking this show seriously, y'all get that it's a comedy and are enjoying it. Shulkie isn't her cousin, she is not a tragic figure, or a monster. Jen is funny and irreverant and one of the most unique of all the Marvel Comic books. I was actually surprised that they managed to capture the comic book in a series, I didn't think it was possible.
Apparently, Tatiana Maslani is a HUGE fan of Megan. And Jameela Jamil (from episode 1) is friends with her, so they wrote her in as a treat for Tatiana. The "I will kill for you" was legit.
You two make me laugh. “Take notes!” 😂 “Wongers!” 😂
Thanks for brightening my day!
.. if Monica picks you up Rico, can you put it on camera? Maybe a post-reaction scene?
That would be perfectly Marvel-ous!
I love this show. The characters, the comedy along with real life dilemmas. These two episodes especially. Maddisyn, she's awesome.
I find this phase of Marvel fascinating. Things felt more simple in earlier phases even though there was alien invasions and "gods". Now in the marvel universe, intergalactic enemies, people with super powers, multiverse. Its all the new norm
But the previous phases with their more simpler approach felt more amazing and good that its not comparable to the current one , The current one is just mostly based on real world issues plus only comedic tone which marvel knows why they are doing that
Madisynn is my new favorite side character in the MCU. She's such a mood.
"I didn't think we would see She-Hulk dating, let alone hooking up with somebody."
Boy are you in for a surprise! It's actually a large part of her character. She's definitely into hookup culture in the comics.
Haha right can't wait for them to be surprised by who she hooks up with in the last half of this show
How many heroes has she slept with 😂
Woah
That's the first time I've heard the term 'hookup culture'
I can imagine
Madisynn is def the best thing to come out of this show, and I genuinely really like the show
Another great reaction to a really fun series (once again, the haters can suck it). You guys rule! 👍✌❤
19:28 The crap she takes in the series is unsurprisingly mirrored by a lot of the online chatter about the series. I'm sure they knew it was coming as they were writing it, especially after all the ridiculous and disgusting Captain Marvel hate (which is happening again with The Marvels...shocking, I know).
Thank you.
I can't wait for The Marvels, it's gonna be so cool!
But yeah, haters gonna hate
Ppl find ways to believe what they want and act on it
Humans sure are interesting
I really love that they allow Jennifer to just be a normal woman with normal healthy sexual desires and her own autonomy. The MCU has been weirdly sexless, so it's nice to get a character who is a bit more relatable and feels more embedded in the real world.
While I agree with you, let's not forget the MCU, and Marvel as an entity, is aimed primarily at kids, so sex isn't exactly at the top of their list of needs list lol
She-Hulk, aka Jennifer Walters, introduced in the comics in 1979, is much less sexually tortured and generally tastes better for mates. As a lawyer who obtained gamma powers through a life-saving blood transfusion from her cousin Bruce, she can often switch between Jen and She-Hulk at will but almost always prefers to stay tall and healthy. Green. She likes herself better that way, and she has more luck with men, too. In She-Hulk #19 in 2007, Walters was forced to take an oath to list the people she slept with in one form or another.
@@Zombie_Trooper actually marvel's top fanbase is millenials at 40% but i feel like they try to market their content towards kids, weirdly
@@bingbongboi2046 Nothing they do really suggests their target audience is kids when it comes to marketting, simply that they are kid friendly, which you know, is also how the comics worked. And just almost everything in general.
@BingBongBoi There's a difference between Target audience and viewership demographics. Of course, Marvel has a large Millennial base. That's not the issue. It's that base who has been here since the turn of the century and ushered in the boom, but the reality is Marvel, Disney, and their execs make their most gross profit from young people aged 6-18. That's where their merchandising is the strongest, and all their back-end profit is made in deals with brands that appeal to that demo. Our demo is far less likely to buy, especially when you consider the current economic climate. Sure, a bunch of 35 year Olds can like the movies and be 40% of the viewership, but they're not the bulk purchasers of brand deal tie ins and perpetuating the brand. Comics are gearing more towards adults now, sure, but they weren't even meant for us until the 90's, they were penny entertainment for kids, and thus, the stories we get are focused through those lenses and Marvels subsidiaries are even currently running campaigns to pull in young readers because that's their target desire. The movies and shows are effectively designed, first and foremost, for that age range, and if it picks up the Millennials, that's a nice win, but not their target.
I love seeing Monica's enjoyment of this series in particular. Great reaction, guys!
Madisynn and Wongers are my favorite dynamic duo😂🤣😍
I thought Madisynn was going to annoy me at first, but she was one of the best parts of the show. She was down for everything and was really chill.
She started out really annoying, but just got better each time I saw her.
Fun fact: they used real tweets from the idiotic side of the fandom on that one scene
Not idiotic side. But slightly crazy side. That side have some good arguments too
@@aasamspb967 exactly they also have strong arguments which are sensible too
@@emadraza3698 yep
For Monica's question about why those guys attacked Jen and never did it to Hulk. Not only is Hulk much bigger and stronger, he is also mad and unpredictable so there is no way they can get near him. There is also the fact that he is surrounded by the Avengers.
Also, they were trying to get her blood while she was not hulked and it’s not easy to find Bruce.
19:54 The text messages and much of the dialogue shown in that segment were taken from Twitter and comment posts when Marvel *announced* they were making a She-Hulk D+ show. It wasn't critiques of the writing or CGI; it was based on the announcement. It reflexes actual responses to the character's existence in this universe by _some_ people. But it wasn't a joke. They didn't make it up. It's what Marvel has always been, "the world outside our window."
Fantastic episode. Madisynn King spoiling The Sopranos for Wong was messed up. I hope She-Hulk meets Hercules in the future. Derek is played by David Otunga, a former WWE wrestler, and Harvard Lawyer. He was with Jennifer Hudson from (2007-2017) they have one son David Daniel Otunga Jr. I'm enjoying this series. Madisynn and Wong have chemistry. Madisynn King is played by Patty Guggenheim, Actress, Writer, and Comedian. Dammit, Donny Blaze. Rhys Coiro portrayed Donny Blaze in She-Hulk: Attorney at Law. Rhys Coiro is the husband of Kat Coiro. Kat Corio is a directed and executive producer of She-Hulk: Attorney at Law.
Monica made a point I would like to expand on.. I am over 50 and was reading She-Hulk comics before I was a teenager. The men who treated women as less than acted the same way back then, it was just limited by the media of the time. Stan Lee gave a louder voice to women by making She-Hulk the first character to break the forth wall. And those that didn’t want to hear it said those comics are for children. Women today have a louder voice and bigger media platform but sadly there are still those that want to silence their voice with anger and insults.
Great breakdown after episode 3. We are seeing Marvel spread its wings, seeking wider more varied audiences. Horror, Midnight Sons, Dr Strange, Blade, Wanda etc… Street level, Daredevil, Spider-Man etc… Global, the Avengers, Cosmic, Guardians, Fantastic Four, Adam etc… Mutants, Xmen, Light comedy/4th wall breaking She Hulk, Deadpool, Wandavision (the start) etc… much like the comics that don’t appeal to every one.
The gossip and bullshit that She Hulk had to put up with is similar to the stuff people online were saying about her while the series aired. It's like they knew exactly what the online CHUDs would say about her and the show and they pretty much nailed it. The Madisynn episode was my favorite, she is hilarious
It's not only "similar", some of the comments that we see on the show are real comments
16:12
Yeah, it's interesting
Though, to be fair, She-Hulk is a much more human-looking individual--- compared to the green muscle monster that traditionally communicated exclusively with smashing and roaring
They definitely underestimate She-Hulk since she looks less threatening and more in control
I understand why some people may not like the show, I knew they would make it and adapt the story for TV but the fact is it isn't that much different from the books
if any thing things are somewhat extreme to the point her clothes get ripped to almost nothing and when the bad guys shows up and fight her at some point they end up either having a crush or falling in love with her, yet the books were always based on comedy and action.😂👍👍
Some people acted like this show was ever supposed to be a real serious take on lawyer life. They acted like people should be able to watch this show to study for the Bar exam. It was always meant to be mostly silly with hints of lawyer-ing.
All of this type of stuff has been happening since the 60s. It doesn’t matter when a project came out
Oh, I LOVE the new stuff just as much as I loved the old stuff. I always try to take movies and shows as they are, rather than form theories and expectations beforehand. I prefer it that way. The only thing that really matters to me is that I have fun. And so far, only MoM let me down in that aspect. Everything else has been really fun.
I really like Jen as a character and got the idea they were trying for with a street lvl hero dealing with the little things but I feel like the writers just thought they were amazing and in reality it was just all over the place. I did really like Captain Marvel though so idk what it is
Actually the MCU is based off the Marvel Ultimate Universe 2000-2015. Kevin Feige is a fan of Marvel Ultimate but knows the older Marvel also. Most of the stories of the MCU is catered around those younger comic readers. Some of the shows like Moon Knight, She Hulk and Werewolf by Knight come from older stories. Hawkeye, Ms Marvel and Falcon and the Winter Soldier are based off post 2000 Marvel comics. So as we go forward it is a mixture of old and new. Sooner or later I expect they will reset the Marvel Universe so they can tell the same stories again but with a different style for a different era of Marvel. That is what Marvel and DC have done in the comics to keep things fresh while using the same characters.
It will be a long long time in the future.
We haven’t seen the x-men yet
I expect it will be post Feige
All I can say is Madisynn had better show up in one of the movies now.
i just want a series of wong going on adventures saving the universe as sorcerer supreme while madisynn tags along and spoils several shows with a drink in her hand and louis from ant man shows up once in a while to recap
"Wonggers!" LOL fab reaction guys 🙂
To Monica's point about Jenifer being harrased and talked about and attacked. She is a public figure that went on the news, does high profile lawyer cases has a workplace she goes to everyday and she can control herself in hulk form so likely wouldnt kill attackers as a Publicly known lawyer with no secret identity. Bruce was on the run for years had no permanent address,would change uncontrollably and certainly kill any attackers that came at him, a literal beast that couldnt be reasoned with. Also he wasnt a public figure until smart hulk after Infinity Wars. Also there has not been a Hulk movie since Incredible Hulk in over 15 years since Incredible hulk like 2006 so no Bruce personal life for us.
For some reason, the twerking freaked the haters out the most.
Because for whatever reason, a female hulk isn’t allowed to twerk and be “unprofessional” in the workplace, while men can hit on women with unwanted attention and exclude women from happy hours and do other things and it’s considered “normal.” Gotta love double standards.
It was supposed to be for fun, but there was definitely quite a bit of sexism and racism in the backlash for that.
@@jessicamagri8211 If you have the opportunity to twerk with Megan Thee Stallion and you don't, I don't even want to know you.
I think, by the end, you'll see who the villain is. I think a lot of people didn't like it because they realized who it was supposed to be. Not gonna say, but, at this point in me watching it, I figured it out and it became hilarious. Especially with everyone getting more and more upset with the series. lol
I think Marvel (the MCU) grew from within itself. Because all the stuff that we are getting like the light elf and stuff grew out of us getting used to the space stuff. The more cosmic stuff like Thor and Guardians wouldn't have felt normal without the 1st Thor and Avengers having aliens.
Marvel is The Avengers, fighting gods and cosmic catastrophes. Marvel is also street crime in New York, like Daredevil and The Punisher. Marvel is also science fiction, magicians, social satire, war, westerns, horror, sword & sorcery, teen romance, detectives, and yes, comedy. Everyone is not meant to enjoy every single thing they put out. It's okay if you skip the products you don't care for. They are all part of the giant Marvel story, but you can keep up with that story perfectly well without feeling obligated to consume 100% of their output.
i love the way marvel is going but because there’s been SO MUCH with phase four it is good to know that marvel is gonna be shifting gears and getting a bit more serious with the movies that are yet to come out.
"why you never pick me up like that" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wong worked at Target in Nepal according to his Linkedin
The sopranos is an amazing show the spoilers part had me dying Wong was pissed
This show is 100% the most comic accurate live-action adaptation of any comic property ever. Comics are simply just a fun escape.
love y’all marvel videos so much♥️
These reactions are the best
Yeah She hulk smashes 😅 Also I prefer Marvel movies over the TV shows but something is better than nothing
U guys are amazing ! U think exactly the way I did when I watched the show, i guy freaking get it and it’s really cool, this show is so refreshing and self aware
Rico as long as you are not spoiled the Ep 5 will blow your mind 🤫 - see ya✌🏻
Is it not the ep 8?
@@hrithikbusawon856 5th's end and entire 8th
Been looking forward to this one since last week
You guys should really watch The Fantastic Four and The Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer
I don't mind the way Marvel is experimenting different tones, aslong as they stay true to the tone we all loved from Captain America: Winter Soldier, Infinity War, Endgame etc when it matters in the BIG movies.
The most interesting part of this show that if you don't like it, you sort of become one of the villains of the show. Talk about weaponized meta storytelling. It's one of the most direct commentaries on negative fan reaction I've ever seen in any genre project.
The writers found a way to actively make dislike, or commentary of your dislike for the show your watching, a part of the show. Doesn't really matter if you have a legitimate dislike of something in the show.
1. It's a comedy, (even though there are long stretches of straight drama and no humor, but ok) so if you say you don't like it, you just don't get the joke and it's your fault for not getting the humor.
2. Any negative comments you might have on the show, instantly become part of the shows various social media montages about people not liking Jen.
Basically it's the perfect critic/public response armor. If you think the show sucks, or just doesn't work for you... and you say that on social media... then people who like it can easily say "you're just one of the toxic haters of the show". No need to debate, conversation over. It's brilliant for that, even though I'm not a fan, I have to give them credit, that is very well done.
Cringy comedic are still cringy in it I liked most part but i they included some unnecessary comedy much even in comics that is not the case too you can atleast have solid plot for that show not just address the critics if the plot is good enough the critics and haters will also gonna found it amusing unless if you are total toxic hater of marvel.
P.S: I like this show
Another banger 🔥🔥🔥 I’m happy you guys are enjoying the show my favorite character is hulk Edward Norton hulk I think you would like “the illusionist” mystery movie with Ed Norton and Paul giamatti
If Marvel is to continue, it has to branch out. Find new stories and new ways to tell them. It can't be Iron Man, rinse and repeat; Avengers, rinse and repeat. Phase 4 explores different characters and narratives. Wandavision doesn't exist before P4. A B&W journey through early American sit-coms? Ms. Marvel, a coming-of-age character dramedy and part-time superhero narrative? But people expecting a repeat of Iron Man won't always know how to digest that stuff. It doesn't match pre-existing expectations.
theres no need for a spoiler alert as the sopranos ended 15 years ago....
Honostly this episode was a bit weird for me but all and all I do love the show but that is mostly because of Tatiana the actress of Jennifer and the show was good with the things it did.
The best of the show is Madisynn, that’s 2 ns with 1 y but it’s not where you think
The incredible hulk was not a superhero movie it was a monster movie. She-Hulk is not a superhero because she doesn't believe in heroics she believes in law and order. This show will vshow jennifer even through no action there are consequences. This is an anthology series not about She-Hulk but the MCU status today and where is it going first consider super powers there's a apprehensive of them then normalized and desensitize. Then in the future there will be fearful and hatred which is when did X-Men come because in the point of the X-Men is there hated by all for being who they are whether they use their powers or not. People love superpower people in the MCU. The landscape of the MCU will change but this TV series shows people with powers that always existed even if we didn't see them. knowing that the universe is normalize them to fearing to unnecessarily hating them and the show.
Yall should react to the Rocky movies, they are really good
@1:15 I personally enjoyed Jen’s intro scene with us. It was my favorite start of an episode.
However, I wouldn’t call Bruce, Emil, and Wong cameos because they clearly show up for more than a mere minute. I feel like they’re either special guest stars or recurring co-stars.
Nevertheless, she’s right about one thing: this is her show.
It’s also funny how she’s talking to us and her co-stars pay little to no attention to that whatsoever.
And we finally found the worst character in the MCU: Madisynn King.
Yall might like Daredevil
WONGERSSS
I wonder how they would react to the last episode
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marvel is usually a reflection of current society
Not really
@@aasamspb967 how so
@@2btobi835 it's plane visible. Come one. With all these invasions the world will be a shit show. Earth saw a lot of invasions and destructions. And stil the new movies show them being happy. The only movie that showed the effects of the attacks on humans is Endgame. Rest of them don't. Many more reasons are there.
@@aasamspb967 what i was referring to was the reflection of current societal issues/topics that marvel tends to address a lot, especially in comics. from cap fighting nazis to she hulk getting cat called to governments stealing other countries resources.
@@aasamspb967 i get what ur saying they have briefly moved past endgame but it does have repercussions. in fatws we get info on how they planned to get everything back to normal.
far from home also touched on endgame and secret invasion seems to take place during the blip so we could see more of the public’s reaction to infinity war.
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Cool 😎😎😎😎
Hello: when are u going to react to The mandalorian
Both episodes had some cool moments but overall, eh
Thanks Mon your mid way analysis really clarified why I’ve started to disconnect from Marvel. I really don’t find She Hulk to my taste and the last few movies and series have felt like too much of a diversion for me… but I’m old so that’s probably why….
The first phases of Marvel was geared towards comic book fans; they were love letters to us. Phase 4 had Marvel Studios change their focus no longer using comic book writers or comic book fans to write scripts. It was their belief that fans on,y thought they knew what they wanted however; the abysmal reviews tell another story.
She-Hulk is a series I enjoyed for what it is but during my younger years we had CBS trying to put together their own version of the MCU beginning with the Incredible Hulk starring Bill Buxby and Lou Ferrigno; we then had the Nicholas Hammond led Spider-Man. Later on Rebel Brown starred as Captain America followed up with the Incredible Hulk tv movies featuring Daredevil played by Rex Smith and also Thor portrayed by Eric Kramer which interesting enough had Thor’s alter ego Dr. Donald Blake played by Steve Levitt. Doctor Strange also had his own tv movie starring Peter Hooten in the titular role. Wong was played by Clyde Kusatsu.
The old movies and series of course, were no where on the level of what we see now nor were they close to the Netflix; Fox; ABC; or Freeform Marvel shows which were all cancelled after Marvel once contracts expired and the Disney deal was finalized.
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the series is ok it my less favorite marvel series, i just didnt like how they made She hulk look in the series &hated the "bad guy" in the series & i think Monica is right about it being for this generations
Alright see now, like i said, I wouldve been good if they took these episodes out or left them as bonuses or something😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Cringe tv show, rather not waste my time
Shehulk is the worst thing marvel ever produced
Curious to see/why you think that.
@@jessicamagri8211 writing was terrible the plot was dumb and they scrapped the plot by the end of it. It was all over the place and really had no purpose besides it being a terrible “lawyer show” with no real law scenes. It wasn’t really funny but that part I’ll say is my opinion
So one reactor isn't allowed to see/acknowledge for fear of the other reactor...?
Relax, it's a joke.
So does anyone else think that it's totally fine for the guy not to be into a shapeshifting girlfriend?
They play it off as if He's wrong or a bad guy because he was freaked out by the fact of her Non-hulk self, but seems to me that people might be put off by someone who is an entirely physically and emotionally different person from one moment to the next as a love interest. It'd be one thing if He saw her in both forms, but we are meant to believe this was his first exposure to non-hulk Jen.
Also, so many parts of this show highlight things that are supposed to be funny, but come off as off-putting or just weird. Like being a jerk to the process server? We are meant to like Jen, but the writers go out of their way to write her as rude and generally not likeable.
As you guys mentioned, this was her first superhero outing, and she's legit non-caring about it. I guess it's a subversion, but man talk about deflating. Like the joy of seeing someone realize what they can do... the fun of those moments of discovery, in this show, they just focus on the mundanity and really couldn't care less. I guess that's interesting? But it's like going to beach and focusing on the sea gull poop.
Re-watching this with you guys is kinda painful, and I know a lot of people posting say they love it, but... the disconnect from this show and the rest of Marvel could not be clearer. I will give the writers this, they took a lot of risks. Having a character who literally is annoyed by having to save the world is a choice. This show really is Marvels' first 50/50 show, it's very divisive in that there is very little middle ground. Either you think it's the best thing ever and you love Madisynn, and think it's all great fun. Or... you just can't understand what they were trying to do, and generally find it annoying and out of place.
Lastly, the dunking on toxic fans bit. As the show goes on, the joke begins to ware pretty thin. It's like imagine if you went to a comedian, and he kept telling the same joke over and over. The first few times you laugh, but at some point, it gets old.
And know you understand why dealing with those toxic fans is fucking obnoxious. They repeat the same dumbass bullshit over and over and over again. Wasn't funny or cool the first time, now it's just pathetic. You think the joke wore thin? The toxic losers were wore thin millennia ago. I'm glad the series made them the butt of the joke and didn't let up. They don't deserve anything else than to be made fun of.
My thoughts exactly. I felt that every single episode was needlessly targeting toxic masculinity. It's like, "WE GET IT!". But they continue beating a dead horse, over and over. They even changed up her original (more interesting) origin story just to keep a woman from being rescued by a man. It's the same problem I had with Captain Marvel. The chauvinism is played up to unbelievable levels of frequency and blatanism. As a man, I've been around toxic dudes all of my life, but the way it was portrayed in this show was just so over the top that I found myself rolling my eyes more often than laughing. I just didn't find it funny.
I'm nit saying that these real issues can't be written in a funny way, I just feel that the writers that were hired were not skilled enough to make those issues (or the story as a whole) work well enough.
This show is terrible
Then why you even here?
@@ochayethenoo Free world to comment. Ya 🤡
@@ochayethenoo They gotta find somewhere to whine.
I think that it's not made to appeal to everyone. I think younger fans love it because It's extremely meta, and constantly calling out tropes and old ways of writing that still work but can get tiring.
Personally it's not for me. It's a lot less heroic and much more self-interested then a typical genre show. Jen isn't really all that self-less, she's much more like an average person thrust into something she wants no part of. It's frustrating for some of us who love the "good guy/girl" narrative like Spiderman or Captain America, because those are idealized characters. JW isn't that, but it comes across as very cynical, because she really doesn't want any part of her new identity.
More traditional folks, want a character to save the day and be a beacon of hope. Heroes in the classic sense are allegories of growth and change, their adventures are about overcoming adversity in various forms, But younger audiences are much more jaded, and want their "heroes" to reflect more realistic mundane struggles rather then allegories.
They want heroes who are less perfect, heroes who aren't paragons. (see "The Boys" or "Invincible") She-hulk feels like it was made for mostly for them, and that's ok. We don't all have to love everything Marvel does. But I will say that could be a part of the reason for their recent slight downturn. We can't all be on board with each new and different turn, and further the character is from the template, especially without a large built in fan base, the less appealing a character is overall.
She-hulk is unique because she doesn't fit, and that tonal shift, the lack of stakes, and the overall purposeful disrespect the character shows to the entire genre can be off putting to some. Some people love it, they love stories that are internal and not external. Saving the day is old hat, they want to see heroes as more human.
The most interesting phenomena I've seen however is that when you don't like it, you become one of the villains of the show. Talk about weaponized meta storytelling.
@@ochayethenoo Maybe he's hate watching. Or maybe he's supporting the channel. People are still allowed to not like things and comment you know.