As a current Mazda owner, I absolutely love the CX-90. This vehicle far exceeds my expectations. I’m gonna hold on to my 21 CX-9 GT for a few more years and then try to pick up a lightly used CX-90. Well done Mazda!
Same here, ‘21 GT, my second one on lease with another year left on it. I’m anxiously awaiting the CX70, might downsize a bit for my next one, assuming I don’t buy this one out or pick up a gently used 90. I don’t want to give up all the toys mine has, but am interested in the RWD and I6 performance. The higher price points of the 90 to keep my toys are holding me back right now.
As a current Mazda CX9 owner, frankly speaking CX90 is comprehensively improved, but only 2 Negatives points stopped my upgrade plan. 1: The second row headroom space is more narrow than CX9. 2: 8AT transmission shifting gears is frustrating than CX9 6AT, especially 1-2-3. Slower gear changes than CX9 6AT as well. Hopefully Mazda could hear about this and improve it.
The Mazda CX-90 is very special, a affordable family crossover SUV made for the driving enthusiasts! A new modern powerful Made in Japan JDM inline-6 turbocharge engine it's been 20 years ago since Japan made their last inline-6 engine the legendary 2JZ and RB. A new rear wheel drive Midship platform places the engine farther back in the chassis for enhanced handling with independent double wishbone suspension geometry. Thank you Mazda for all you do. You will make driving fun again for all of us that needs a family crossover SUV to go do some grocery shopping at Costco or a family road trip
@@Unchainedmaple888 Starting price of sub $40k seems pretty affordable to me. Sure, high top end price but stripper model is a good price. That said, OP is overly complimentary.
Alex, you are great...thank you! At some point, I will replace my 2021 CX-9, and right now, my thoughts are a little smaller BMW X5 or the CX-90/smaller CX-70.
The current testing result shows cx90 0-60 in abt 6.3 sec that’s one sec slower than type s. I don’t think cx90 would even come close to type s in terms of handling without sth like SHAWD. Type s has Bosch made air suspension plus Acura adaptive damping system which is the best in this class. ELS 3D signature is on par with BMW bowers and Wilkins diamond. Cx90 do beat type s in fit and finish, craftsmanship and build quality. Its engine hood gap is only 2.9 mm, setting a industry new record probably.
Driving dynamics all the way. Finally a fun to drive 3-row SUV at an affordable price. It's going to give the domestic players a run for the money. A great balance of utility and performance fun to drive.
I like the platform and not needing the third row I am waiting to see the CX-70. If using the same engines on a smaller platform, perhaps it will be a bit more sprightly, have better mileage and improved interior space. I will say I'm a bit underwhelmed by the 25mpg combined with the PHEV. Rather than the increase in power, my reasoning for going with a PHEV would be increased mileage.
The 25mpg is without charge on the phev, if you go to his other channel you will see 56mpge with the battery charged. EPA ratings will be released shortly.
Gas mileage will be 0 if your commute is less than the 26 (or whatever the number is) miles of range. Mine is under 26 round-trip so I'm okay with the PHEV.
@@jsfbay1 true. I’d be curious to see how it performs around town. Another reviewer said it was pretty lethargic under electric power alone. I suppose I can see why as it’s 1xx HP driving a big heavy vehicle.
Happy to finally be able to get a detailed a review on the CX-90. So many videos dropped on Monday. It’s a BEAUTIFUL vehicle inside and out. The only design question I see is that in some colors the doors look really tall and kinda like a skirt pulled way above the waistline. I’m not sure why Mazda chose to go after the premium market. I thought premium buyers also want the cachet of the premium brand. Not sure why they answered the question to add a fixed rear console and inline 6 in place of additional seating room that no one asked for. The second row seats look unnecessarily thick ala Durango. Do you think that extra thickness is eating up some of the already challenged legroom in the vehicle. Does the width of the vehicle change with the two person bench and the three person bench? If there’s no room for you to put your feet under the chair Alex and your hair is brushing the roof of the vehicle while the vehicle parked is it really pretty comfortable for passengers to sit there on bumpy roads, going through residential neighborhoods with multiple speed bumps and on secondary roads leading to cabins and campgrounds? Don’t really see anything premium about the driver’s display. They fit and finish off the materials inside look like they will brighten up your every commute. The only similarities I see to X7 are length, RWD and wheelbase. How else is the CX-90 closer to X7 versus X5? Why is Pilot in any three row conversation outside of Sorento? It’s so tidy inside. Like with most of the SUVs today Mazda decided to give you fewer seats as you select more options. It doesn’t make sense to me but everyone is doing it. I would cross shop it against Acura, Volvo & Infinity. That’s about it for me.
Alex, thanks for a great review. I don't need a 3 row CUV so I'm looking forward to seeing the CX-70. Love the Tan interior and new Artisan Red color and combination. My only design complaint is that the side profile is a little flat and blocky looking. Should sell well and give luxury brands competition.👍
I've been looking at upgrading my 2019 CX-9 GT and this nails what I love about the current CX-9 and improves what I didnt. I will most likely be trading it in for the plug in hybrid as long as that reviews well.
I just test drove this thing today. Great looking, soaks up road bumps pretty well for the wheel size. Also interior feels and looks great, although i did not get much time to play with the instrument cluster and infotainment. With all the positives in mind, i noticed one big and one subjective flaw. If you are taller than 6 foot (i am 6' 4"), i am pretty sure you will hate the driver seat. I also weigh 220 lbs, so not too bulky. The middle cluster to the door panel width is too narrow! There is no way to relax the legs a bit. It forces you to sit lets say properly and straight. Good for short trips, horrible for anything longer than 1 hr. This is a big bummer for me. 2nd, the top engine is too loud in the cabin especially when being aggressive with the pedal, and also it is not as torque rich as the spec claims. It will be hard to get better than say 6.5 second 0-60 on a regular basis, although i did not mesure it. Anyways maybe it needs some breaking in. The latter is bot that big of a deal to me personally, but the former is a deal breaker. Anyone else experience this?
Thanks for including your height and weight. I wish more car reviews would state that. I'm your size just a tad heavier. I do long trips so no bueno for me! 👍🏼
I sat in this vehicle but did not drive it, and I also noticed how cramped the driving position seemed with that wide center console. I am used to driving a 2021 Honda Pilot so I immediately noticed the difference. I will give the CX-90 a proper test drive, but this may be a dealbreaker, for me anyway.
Interesting that there's a warm reception for this car in the US. From what I read and watched on European channels, they pointed at the lack of sportiness compared to a BMW, which apparently isn't a problem there.
Saw a 51K CX90 for sales at the local dealer. At that price and you don’t get the full digital screen, smaller infotainment screen, and no 360 camera.. Mazda used to be the best brand for dollars to value. What a shame.
The design is lovely. The quality of the product is impeccable as well. Mazda should have carried over the exposed dual exhaust tips on the CX-9 to the CX-90.
Now this is the direction I've been waiting for hybrid design to take in order to make them more attractive to owners wanting it for "from a stop" benefit.
Wow I did not expect the pricing to be this competitive, this is really gonna give Genesis and Acura a hard time, especially considering the Acura is FWD-biased, and both of those are using V6s compared to a smoother Inline 6.
@@naveenthemachine We don't know much about the TX so I can't conclude, but the Acura Type S is quite a bit more expensive than this while offering similar performance, personally I can't see myself going for that .
@@michaelnoah3795 we know the TX will be based off a Camry platform. So we know off the bat it will be boring, slow, lackluster, not very luxurious, ugly looking, and it’ll be very expensive It’ll drive like an economy car. So why even bother w the TX?
@@blackwhirlwind1245 I wouldn’t. It’ll be on economy car platform, have an unrefined turbo 4, a noisy 4 cylinder hybrid and PHEV and a mediocre turbo 4 hybrid. And it’ll drive like an economy car only bigger and heavier. And the interior won’t be very luxurious as we’ve seen in the RX RZ NX LX. Unless they give it a bespoke RWD platform there’s no need to waste time waiting for the tx because the cx90 already outclassed it before it even gets unveiled So the whole “wait until it comes out” just doesn’t cut the mustard
As usual, Mazda creates a competent, beautiful, driver-oriented and affordable vehicle that is an attractive offering in a heavily competitive and shrinking market segment. They are late to the game when everyone else is focusing on hybrids and EV's. Remember the 626, the Amanti, the RX8, the CX-5. All were technically excellent vehicles but the arrived when their segments were fully mature or shrinking.
I think this is true however I think part of the issue is of a comparatively small automaker having to choose where to allocate scarce development money. Mazda can't afford to go down too many technological dead end roads, so they tend to come along and produce a better product for established segments. They also focus on selling each unit at a higher profit margin hence their focus on the higher trim levels of each model, thus getting more "bang for the buck".
Traded in my 2016 CX-9 for a new CX90 Turbo S and absolutely love the new platform and performance. The interior of the car is definitely a quality luxury product with the white Napa leather and real maple wood trim. My favorite feature is the facial recognition when getting in the driver’s seat and all your settings are just the way you want including Apple CarPlay and the music you were listening to on your previous trip.
The rounded rear end works with the overall design. I think the organic contours in the front wouldn’t mesh with a boxier rear. IMO Mazda did a good job pulling it all together.
I was one of the first owners of 2016 CX-9. Still have the car and love it. Would love to get CX-90 but I am done with ICE. Make it full electric and I am a buyer.
I've test driven Mazdas and my sister owned one. They're fine sporty cars with good fuel economy, but putting them in the same category with BMW or any luxury brand is not realistic. When it comes to Asian imports, there's Honda, Toyota, now Hyundai (thanks to the Genesis), and then everyone else. I guess it all comes down to personal preference, but I'd never mistake a Mazda for a BMW. Buick isn't even a BMW and it's more of a luxury brand than Mazda. It's sporty, with tech. And that's fine, if that's your thing. But if I'm comparing an Asian import to a BMW, I'm looking at Lexus, Genesis or maybe Infiniti.
This is 2023. Whoever is dumb enough to pay extra 20k for a dumb badge is their prerogative. I can care less about any badge. For me Mazda is most underrated brand in world and they will forever have my money and full support. Their inline 6 RWD architecture will change the game and it's still Made in Japan ! That's all that matters.
I've always been a fan of Mazda - it's innovative and a breath of fresh air. And now, it has driving dynamics to boot. I am definitely considering this to replace my V60 Cross Country - roughly the same price, more seats, much better powertrain and driving dynamics!
Agreed, 21s not called for (though yes, the competition and higher up are jumping on the bandwagon, some going to 22s and 23s (X7 option)). And, tire wise, we all know how much Alex likes the wide rubber, but in this package and market segment 275s (again X7, Durango RT etc) unwarranted in my opinion. This is no fire breathing RT V8 with road or track burning pretensions. A 10mm smaller tire width is going to push less air, and that combined with (typically) lighter weight of a downsized (20" or 19") wheel shouldn't take much of a toll, if any, on handling and general road manners if the suspension is well sorted and quality tire used. It's clear, at least for some specs, Mazda has the X7 in its sights. After all, the two are within about 1/2 inch of each other's wheelbase. But, the bigger miss here is the unnecessarily larger wheels. The shorter and shorter (and more vulnerable) sidewall game is getting pretty silly on these crossovers and SUVs. Saw both a Suburban and Range Rover today with the wagon wheel/almost-donk treatment (at least 24s it looked like) and it was comical. The irony: each looking far less "truck" capable than their original (or older) spec or owners intended. Even if never taken off - or even just back - road, aren't these vehicles supposed to LOOK like they CAN!
I was contemplating a Type S, but after seeing this, I'm very anxious to drive a CX-90 Turbo S Premium Plus. If it drives as I expect and has a nice sound system, then I will probably get one. Nothing I've learned by watching all the videos has turned me off. I had a 2010 RX-350 & it had a mouse pad, so no problem there. Not a huge fan of the rear end design or the seemingly flat sides, but it has a stylish presence & better fuel economy than the MDX, which surprised me. Driving comfort will be my priority.
I’m glad you did a review Alex because I like how detailed you are and your deep dive. We bought a 2023 Lincoln Nautilus Reserve 335hp 2.7 six cylinder last week for my wife. It was $65+k with $10,800 in options but still $3k less than the Black Label. It startled me how nice it’s put together and thought out. I tell you that to tell you this. The first vehicle we tested was the Mazda CX90 and I was so pumped because of what I was seeing on it so expectations were high. The $59k version was definitely in play and Milwaukee is not a small city so I was shocked to see the dealership had two to test drive both had the 280 hp. When I got to the dealership I was shocked to see a showroom with ZERO product on the floor! I looked at the salesman and said WTH? He said Japan is still struggling to get production out. The $48,900 model we took out felt awful and I was so disappointed. It had a little 8 inch infotainment screen and such a plastic feel. The engine wasn’t close to feeling smooth and the tune match to the eight speed was hideous. The doors felt cheap when they closed as did the whole vehicle. I told the GM when I returned the keys that I was disappointed. I said do you know the size of the infotainment screens size these are up against vs this tiny 8inch thing? I traded my 2022 Genesis GV70 3.5t in on a new 2023 Genesis G80 Sport Prestige and am used to a huge 14.5 inch screen and her Nautilus screen dwarfs those! He said Mazda did that on purpose for safety reasons 😂 Your review discussed how come the transmission feels the way it does but you are much more tolerant than I am in wanting a buttery smooth engine and transmission pairing and tune. Unless the top of the line CX90 is a totally different vehicle, I must say it’s quite a disappointment. My wife traded her 2020 Palisade Limited in and everything about that still crushed the Mazda.
As I know, $48,900 model is 3.3 TURBO PREMIUM, it has 10.25" full-color center display, but higher trim from 3.3 TURBO PREMIUM PLUS, it has 12.3" full-color center display i prefer CX90 Turbo S with 340-hp vs your model you test drive only has 280hp. I agree with you about the door felt cheap, i have not tested the top trim so i do not know there is any different or not 😃
Excellent video! Love the look of the CX-90 but don’t need the back seats. Going to wait for the CX-70 and pray that it has the same high output engine as the 90
Right now, considering style, price and content, there is no competition, as far as I am concerned. I am waiting a couple years for Mazda to work out the new-model issues and an additional two years for a lightly used POC Premium Plus or S Premium Plus to replace my 2019 CX-9 Signature.
Here’s hoping that Mazda comes out with a Mazda6-style sedan using this engine and RWD/AWD drivetrain. A gigantic SUV is not even remotely on my radar, but a proper RWD sport sedan with Mazda’s legendary driving dynamics most certainly is.
Looking forward to the cx70 3.3T premium package for around $43k in red on tan. Should be a great competitor to the rdx and gv70 for $7k - $12k cheaper than either of those.
The cx70 is rumored to be ~$5k cheaper than cx90 package per package . Note I said $43k for premium package not the TOTL. A comparable (aspec) rdx new is $51k at the moment and the gv70 6 cylinder is ~$58k
Having driven an X7 as a surprise rental upgrade, I can totally understand how the CX-90 would be a viable value alternative to the X7. Given BMW’s long-term reliability, it’s one of those cars you lease rather than buy, whereas the CX-90 would be a car you can hang onto.
They need to fix the 2nd row. They need a bench option in the 2nd row. I would keep the 3rd row down always, leave it as a large trunk but I still need the ability to carry 5 people around or 4 and a small dog with luggage in the back on long trips. Again, need a bench, and that fancy 2nd row console needs to be removeable aka MDX.
Hey Alex thanks for the video! I love the top trim without the black going around the wheels! But it’s been a year now and I’ve seen so many tellurides on the road and I just don’t see alot of cx 90 a on the road …. I need to make my decision soon.
Mazda states that their transmission is not a DCT because it uses the mild hybrid electric motor at low speeds instead of a torque converter. If you get one for a long term test, it would be interesting to simulate 20 mins of stop and go driving and see what that transmission does when that small batter is depleted
@@kevtn8 The CX-90 has a combination motor/generator. If it is acting as a motor, it cannot generate power and if it is generating power it cannot act as a motor. I do not know the software but either you are pushing a 5,000 lb vehicle with a 190 Hp 4 cylinder and using some of that HP to charge the battery or the battery is providing some of the Hp to move the vehicle and you are not charging. Will it ever be depleted to 0, probably not. Will it deplete below 20%, probably yes and lithium batteries operated below 20% will lower their life expectancy, in addition to the normal degradation of the battery. Look at the 100,000 mile warranty. Battery degradation is not covered.
Great review, but $61K for a MAZDA SUV with no head up display and 2 way lumbar support, and only on driver's side. How much will the dealer markups be???
I’m not a fan of the back but the front is nice. I really like the white color. Something I’ve never said. I’m not a fan of the dash material. Also underwhelmed by the mileage for the phev but overall I like it. Definitely looking forward to the cx 70 and grand highlander now
Thank you for the video Alex, hope you can respond to me with my question, since you've driven Sorento Phev, if given an opportunity which one would you buy or recommend Sorento or cx90 PHEV when compared to value, comfort and driving dynamics. Thank you!
Love the car, but the pricing is idiotic. I bought a 2022 Pathfinder SL with premium package for 45k. It is well equipped. You can’t even get a 360 camera at that price on a CX90. Want a loaded model? Better shell out 60k plus… If I want to spend that kind of money, I’ll buy a Volvo.
Even though you can touch the screen in the Mazda, that is not the best way to interact with the system. Once you get used to the rotary knob, you’ll never want to put finger prints on the screen again, trust me. I haven’t touched the screen in my Mazda since the first day I got it
The only thing holding some back is the really low storage options inside and the possible high repair cost in the future due to timing chain being on the back of the engine which will require lifting the engine out for many repairs. But it’s really fun to drive and it’s by far my favorite HUD with all the details on it. I hate that’s they make you pay a subscription to have remote start instead of adding it to the key FOB.
So glad Mazda finally stepped up and brought out a great new product. I have liked the prev CX-9 but it had been outdated for really long time. I ended up with Subaru Ascent back then cuz Mazda was still not a good contender. But now, all new ball game! Thanks Alex!
@@blackwhirlwind1245 Turbo 4 is outdated even though every new SUV comes with a turbo 4? Interior is outdated with a 12 inch screen with android auto and apple carplay? Exterior with full LED lights and sportback styling is outdated? 🤣
Alex, you asked about what I think about the transmission. As a manual, Mazda3 driver, I think I would be perfectly at home. Mazda is making it feel more like a manual transmission with the deceleration, clutch engagement, etc. I just like the direct feeling of the drivetrain and I think that Would be delivered in this. Although I can see people who don’t drive manuals, being a little taken back by it.
I personally prefer driving Dynamics over third row leg room. I found it interesting that you compared this CX-90 to a BMW X7 versus the BMW X 5. Additionally, I feel that the Mazda CX90 is a relatively good bargain in the entry level trims. However, the TURBO S Premium Plus is a bit pricey in my opinion, especially considering it’s a Mazda. Lastly the lack of complimentary Maintenance is disappointing and a unwise decision on Mazda’s part considering that most of the competition offers some form of complimentary maintenance. I’m considering purchasing the Turbo S Premium Plus even though it’s about $3000 more than I was expecting or hoping for.
Was really waiting for this one, but two disappointments; I was hoping for more towing capacity; I would like to get rid of my leased F-150, but I’m more than a bit concerned with always being near the capacity. By the time you put 60 gallons of gas between the boat and the car, plus people and gear with my 4000 lbs boat and trailer, it’s right up at 5000 lbs. Second, a squared off back would give more room for gear. I don’t need a third seat, but I don’t want to spend Expedition or Tahoe money.
Rear seats fold flat. I usually kept the rear seats folded in my old Mazda3 for years because I used the space more than the seats. Towing though, sorta out of luck. agree you need a bit of a buffer with towing capacity
Isn’t the point of getting an extra long family three row SUV is for the interior roominess, practicality, and functionality? This car is extra long, but none of that useful features. This is why the prior CX nine never sold well. The telluride is shorter, but with much more interior room and functionality
So much to love about this one. However, as you mentioned in your review, 2nd & 3rd row legroom leans on the tighter end, which is unfortunate. That’s the deal breaker for me. Need & want a spacious feeling 2nd & 3rd row.
What I don't quite get, base model Mazda only 280hp and 330ftlbs out of a 3.3L inline 6 turbo? A Kia, yes Kia, 2.5L 4cyl turbo makes 290hp and 311ftlbs on regular 87 octane gas. For the added space, big hood, weight and complexity servicing, why? This engine should be making +400ftlbs, or something. Feel like it's way under-tuned. Will be less stressed of course and smoother. Maybe the transmission can't take the hp or torque?
...to add, to get the extra up to 340hp in the S model, need to run premium gas (recommended). How's that on the wallet $$$. I bet many wouldn't notice the difference 99% of the time. Seems like good marketing to me. If one ran premium in the base model, wouldn't surprise me HP and torque would get a lot closer to the S once the computer pushed timing a little.
Acura MDX isn’t a luxury product. It’s interior is cheap piano black plastic for the entire dash. Mazda nailed this design and is much more premium than any rebadged Honda cough Acura. Mazda should have gave this a torque converter 8 speed
The electric motor, not the ICE, drives the CX-90 from the standstill. Does it concern you if the small 1/3 KWh battery is flat? Or the ICE provides electricity directly to the electric motor?
It seems that Mazda focuses more on so-called enthusiasts (reviewers) than regular customers. 1) They don't provide real safety tech, claiming that the driver needs to drive the car. This is essential for regular customers who require safety features as standard , and only japanese not to offer them as standard. None of these reviewers really care about it , as all they drive is for an hour or 2 for a video . 2) The interiors are super claustrophobic. People need space and roomier cabins. 3) They make the steering harder, and these reviewers go gaga over how nice it is to have weight and feel. However, most people need a light and easier steering. 4) The light interiors are a favorite of these "enthusiasts," but its a nightmare for families, particularly those with kids. Finally, are they cheaper like a Subaru or Nissan? The answer is a loud NO !!!!
I don't care for SUVs or crossovers across the board, but I hope the CX-90 is successful. Considering they're such a small car company, the only way they can afford to keep making cars like the Miata is if their volume sellers do well.
If the dimensions of the vehicle don't change you can't magically turn a 2 seat rear bench into a 3 seat rear bench without shrinking the occupants. It's a great looking vehicle but I am not sure this segment is popular for most Mazda buyers.
With this new transmission design that relies on electric power to push the car from stop, what happens if the battery is depleted ? will have to wait for the engine to add enough charge to the battery?
The motor CAN power the transmission power, but because of how electric motors are designed there's still a direct connection from the engine to the transmission. The electric motor is almost like a sleeve around the connection. Even if the PHEV says it's at 0%, it's still going to have enough juice to add a bit of help similar to a mild hybrid. It just won't allow any electric only range.
This is nearly a direct competitor to the Explorer ST which goes for under $60k, and a good alternative if you want better interior aesthetics/quality. Though performance-wise the ST will probably beat it, and is also RWD-based with near 50/50 weight distribution.
and its a ford. the ST explorer has myriad of issues. I have a cx-9 and it hasn't had one issue in 4 years. I almost bought the ST. but couldn't do it. this is a great alternative to a BMW x5. and a more reliable car
Really enjoyed this video with great simple and straightforward info. Amazing for this price. Am thinking of the X7 but need to reconsider after watching this video. Greeting from Europe...😊
Hey awesome video. Quick comment; since the video of the steering wheel was set to timelapse it would be best to not include it. Very distracting to watch.
IIRC, you can make the Mazda system be touch. It is some sort of setting in one of the menus. Boy, do I wish them success in their sales such that something a Mazda6 sedan could exist again.
@Alex, thanks for the great initial review. Coincidentally, I'm cross shopping the CX90 with the MDX. Your unequivocal comment that you prefer the CX90 over the MDX Type S was surprising given the performance dynamics of the Type S (at least on paper for someone who hasn't driven either. I've only driven the A-Spec). The top of the line Type S is about $73K though, but does have the very cool massaging chairs, air suspension and adaptive dampers. The one thing that makes the MDX really attractive is the second row bench seat that can be converted to captain's chairs. I hate how manufacturers have been equating captain's chairs with luxury for three row SUVs, and do not provide a second row bench seat in top trims. If the top trims CX90 had a bench seat option, the CX90 would be a no brainer for me (specs wise). Hopefully, Mazda will wise up and copy the MDX's second row seat set up. Losing that middle seat makes utilizing the uncomfortable third row a must anytime one has more than four in the vehicle. And that eats into the trunk space as well. Keep up the good work!
I thought he meant to say” mdx “ not type s. Type s 0-60 is a whole second faster than CX90, handling is better, sound system, configs are better. Not mention to air suspension and adaptive damper.
@@dndodd100type s is really fast, its dynamic acceleration is also fabulous. Only next to BMW X5. But when you factor reliability in, you don’t want a bimmer no more.
Just my two cents, although MDX interior is certainly nice, it will age worse than the CX-90. Perhaps a point of consideration if you wish to keep the car longer
As a current Mazda owner, I absolutely love the CX-90. This vehicle far exceeds my expectations. I’m gonna hold on to my 21 CX-9 GT for a few more years and then try to pick up a lightly used CX-90. Well done Mazda!
This has all the features that I wish my 2019 CX-9 had so I am definitely upgrading in a couple years.
Same here. I am driving my 4th Mazda , 2010 CX 9.
Currently driving a 2016 CX9 and will be doing the exact same thing.
Same here, ‘21 GT, my second one on lease with another year left on it. I’m anxiously awaiting the CX70, might downsize a bit for my next one, assuming I don’t buy this one out or pick up a gently used 90. I don’t want to give up all the toys mine has, but am interested in the RWD and I6 performance. The higher price points of the 90 to keep my toys are holding me back right now.
Currently driving a 2017 CX-9 GT and I just placed an order for a CX90 Phev GT. I test drove it and it is really great!
As a current Mazda CX9 owner, frankly speaking CX90 is comprehensively improved, but only 2 Negatives points stopped my upgrade plan. 1: The second row headroom space is more narrow than CX9. 2: 8AT transmission shifting gears is frustrating than CX9 6AT, especially 1-2-3. Slower gear changes than CX9 6AT as well. Hopefully Mazda could hear about this and improve it.
The Mazda CX-90 is very special, a affordable family crossover SUV made for the driving enthusiasts! A new modern powerful Made in Japan JDM inline-6 turbocharge engine it's been 20 years ago since Japan made their last inline-6 engine the legendary 2JZ and RB. A new rear wheel drive Midship platform places the engine farther back in the chassis for enhanced handling with independent double wishbone suspension geometry. Thank you Mazda for all you do. You will make driving fun again for all of us that needs a family crossover SUV to go do some grocery shopping at Costco or a family road trip
Affordable? lol
@@Unchainedmaple888 Starting price of sub $40k seems pretty affordable to me. Sure, high top end price but stripper model is a good price.
That said, OP is overly complimentary.
@@hojushigolsaneunsaram tell that to Karens…. We’re doomed sadly. Can’t beat the societal mentality.
@@hojushigolsaneunsaramwhat are my wagon choices in the USA? I test drove a pretty bland Outback the other day, and it was ballpark $40k.
Alex, you are great...thank you! At some point, I will replace my 2021 CX-9, and right now, my thoughts are a little smaller BMW X5 or the CX-90/smaller CX-70.
We need a Mazda CX-90 340hp vs Acura MDX Type S direct comparison video asap please. V6 vs I6 👍
Probably not as fast, but in terms of MPG the CX-90 beats the MDX.
The cx90 is far superior to the MDX
The current testing result shows cx90 0-60 in abt 6.3 sec that’s one sec slower than type s. I don’t think cx90 would even come close to type s in terms of handling without sth like SHAWD. Type s has Bosch made air suspension plus Acura adaptive damping system which is the best in this class. ELS 3D signature is on par with BMW bowers and Wilkins diamond.
Cx90 do beat type s in fit and finish, craftsmanship and build quality. Its engine hood gap is only 2.9 mm, setting a industry new record probably.
@Caesar Julis are you crazy. Mazda Cx 90 is RWD. Nuff said. Please stop. Acura will not handle better. Trust me
@@mbenton6 nobody said cx90 handles better
Driving dynamics all the way. Finally a fun to drive 3-row SUV at an affordable price. It's going to give the domestic players a run for the money. A great balance of utility and performance fun to drive.
It kills the domestic players. I mean look at something like a Cadillac XT6 and then this? Cadillac should be ashamed.
I like the platform and not needing the third row I am waiting to see the CX-70. If using the same engines on a smaller platform, perhaps it will be a bit more sprightly, have better mileage and improved interior space. I will say I'm a bit underwhelmed by the 25mpg combined with the PHEV. Rather than the increase in power, my reasoning for going with a PHEV would be increased mileage.
I AGREE
The 25mpg is without charge on the phev, if you go to his other channel you will see 56mpge with the battery charged. EPA ratings will be released shortly.
Gas mileage will be 0 if your commute is less than the 26 (or whatever the number is) miles of range. Mine is under 26 round-trip so I'm okay with the PHEV.
@@jsfbay1 true. I’d be curious to see how it performs around town. Another reviewer said it was pretty lethargic under electric power alone. I suppose I can see why as it’s 1xx HP driving a big heavy vehicle.
@@topthecat2259 thanks, good to know. In the video it said all the variants got 25mpg so perhaps it was just a misspeak.
Happy to finally be able to get a detailed a review on the CX-90. So many videos dropped on Monday. It’s a BEAUTIFUL vehicle inside and out. The only design question I see is that in some colors the doors look really tall and kinda like a skirt pulled way above the waistline. I’m not sure why Mazda chose to go after the premium market. I thought premium buyers also want the cachet of the premium brand. Not sure why they answered the question to add a fixed rear console and inline 6 in place of additional seating room that no one asked for. The second row seats look unnecessarily thick ala Durango. Do you think that extra thickness is eating up some of the already challenged legroom in the vehicle. Does the width of the vehicle change with the two person bench and the three person bench? If there’s no room for you to put your feet under the chair Alex and your hair is brushing the roof of the vehicle while the vehicle parked is it really pretty comfortable for passengers to sit there on bumpy roads, going through residential neighborhoods with multiple speed bumps and on secondary roads leading to cabins and campgrounds? Don’t really see anything premium about the driver’s display. They fit and finish off the materials inside look like they will brighten up your every commute. The only similarities I see to X7 are length, RWD and wheelbase. How else is the CX-90 closer to X7 versus X5? Why is Pilot in any three row conversation outside of Sorento? It’s so tidy inside. Like with most of the SUVs today Mazda decided to give you fewer seats as you select more options. It doesn’t make sense to me but everyone is doing it. I would cross shop it against Acura, Volvo & Infinity. That’s about it for me.
This is the only video that I have seen that effectively explains the powertrain and the various related systems of the CX-90. Subscribed!
Alex, thanks for a great review. I don't need a 3 row CUV so I'm looking forward to seeing the CX-70. Love the Tan interior and new Artisan Red color and combination. My only design complaint is that the side profile is a little flat and blocky looking. Should sell well and give luxury brands competition.👍
I'll likely be waiting for the CX-70 as well. I just hope they give it 35 cu ft of cargo space behind the 2nd row. Please.
Is there going to be a cx60 or cx 70 in US market?
We don’t have use for a 3rd row vehicle but I can’t wait to see the CX-70 which could be our next vehicle!
Test drove the Turbo S, it is a totally different mazda, definitely luxurious in features, interior, acceleration, presence.
I've been looking at upgrading my 2019 CX-9 GT and this nails what I love about the current CX-9 and improves what I didnt. I will most likely be trading it in for the plug in hybrid as long as that reviews well.
I just test drove this thing today.
Great looking, soaks up road bumps pretty well for the wheel size. Also interior feels and looks great, although i did not get much time to play with the instrument cluster and infotainment.
With all the positives in mind, i noticed one big and one subjective flaw.
If you are taller than 6 foot (i am 6' 4"), i am pretty sure you will hate the driver seat. I also weigh 220 lbs, so not too bulky. The middle cluster to the door panel width is too narrow! There is no way to relax the legs a bit. It forces you to sit lets say properly and straight. Good for short trips, horrible for anything longer than 1 hr. This is a big bummer for me.
2nd, the top engine is too loud in the cabin especially when being aggressive with the pedal, and also it is not as torque rich as the spec claims. It will be hard to get better than say 6.5 second 0-60 on a regular basis, although i did not mesure it.
Anyways maybe it needs some breaking in.
The latter is bot that big of a deal to me personally, but the former is a deal breaker. Anyone else experience this?
Thanks for including your height and weight. I wish more car reviews would state that. I'm your size just a tad heavier. I do long trips so no bueno for me! 👍🏼
I sat in this vehicle but did not drive it, and I also noticed how cramped the driving position seemed with that wide center console. I am used to driving a 2021 Honda Pilot so I immediately noticed the difference. I will give the CX-90 a proper test drive, but this may be a dealbreaker, for me anyway.
Interesting that there's a warm reception for this car in the US. From what I read and watched on European channels, they pointed at the lack of sportiness compared to a BMW, which apparently isn't a problem there.
I really hope the effort will pay off well for Mazda. They are really triyng hard to win our hearts and in the same time to keep the price reasonable
Mazda is on a right path when you're comparing CX90 with Bmw X7
I would take CX90 all day every day
Saw a 51K CX90 for sales at the local dealer. At that price and you don’t get the full digital screen, smaller infotainment screen, and no 360 camera.. Mazda used to be the best brand for dollars to value. What a shame.
Totally agree, a $51k disappointment when I took one out.
The design is lovely. The quality of the product is impeccable as well. Mazda should have carried over the exposed dual exhaust tips on the CX-9 to the CX-90.
Does this new CX90 get lane centering (lane keep assist) tech yet?
Now this is the direction I've been waiting for hybrid design to take in order to make them more attractive to owners wanting it for "from a stop" benefit.
Wow I did not expect the pricing to be this competitive, this is really gonna give Genesis and Acura a hard time, especially considering the Acura is FWD-biased, and both of those are using V6s compared to a smoother Inline 6.
Genesis and Acura are fine. The Acura type s has a chance
But this absolutely wipes out anything Lexus has to offer including the upcoming TX
@@naveenthemachine We don't know much about the TX so I can't conclude, but the Acura Type S is quite a bit more expensive than this while offering similar performance, personally I can't see myself going for that .
@@michaelnoah3795 we know the TX will be based off a Camry platform. So we know off the bat it will be boring, slow, lackluster, not very luxurious, ugly looking, and it’ll be very expensive
It’ll drive like an economy car. So why even bother w the TX?
@@naveenthemachine although I don’t have high hope for Lexus TX, but I think we should at least wait for the Lexus TX before judging on it.
@@blackwhirlwind1245 I wouldn’t. It’ll be on economy car platform, have an unrefined turbo 4, a noisy 4 cylinder hybrid and PHEV and a mediocre turbo 4 hybrid. And it’ll drive like an economy car only bigger and heavier. And the interior won’t be very luxurious as we’ve seen in the RX RZ NX LX.
Unless they give it a bespoke RWD platform there’s no need to waste time waiting for the tx because the cx90 already outclassed it before it even gets unveiled
So the whole “wait until it comes out” just doesn’t cut the mustard
As usual, Mazda creates a competent, beautiful, driver-oriented and affordable vehicle that is an attractive offering in a heavily competitive and shrinking market segment. They are late to the game when everyone else is focusing on hybrids and EV's. Remember the 626, the Amanti, the RX8, the CX-5. All were technically excellent vehicles but the arrived when their segments were fully mature or shrinking.
I think this is true however I think part of the issue is of a comparatively small automaker having to choose where to allocate scarce development money. Mazda can't afford to go down too many technological dead end roads, so they tend to come along and produce a better product for established segments. They also focus on selling each unit at a higher profit margin hence their focus on the higher trim levels of each model, thus getting more "bang for the buck".
Mazda keep trying to match the luxury class such as BMWs etc but in my opinion they always just miss the bull eye
Traded in my 2016 CX-9 for a new CX90 Turbo S and absolutely love the new platform and performance. The interior of the car is definitely a quality luxury product with the white Napa leather and real maple wood trim. My favorite feature is the facial recognition when getting in the driver’s seat and all your settings are just the way you want including Apple CarPlay and the music you were listening to on your previous trip.
Is your Mazda CX90 Turbo S or S Premium ? because i think Turbo S does not have face recognition
@@anhnguyen9929 The Turbo S Premium Plus
I preferred the rear tail lights from cx9 better and should of had dual exaust showing.
The rounded rear end works with the overall design. I think the organic contours in the front wouldn’t mesh with a boxier rear. IMO Mazda did a good job pulling it all together.
I was one of the first owners of 2016 CX-9. Still have the car and love it. Would love to get CX-90 but I am done with ICE. Make it full electric and I am a buyer.
I love the proportion of these new Mazda CXs' with inline-six engine but not sure of the transmission configuration reliability.
I've test driven Mazdas and my sister owned one. They're fine sporty cars with good fuel economy, but putting them in the same category with BMW or any luxury brand is not realistic. When it comes to Asian imports, there's Honda, Toyota, now Hyundai (thanks to the Genesis), and then everyone else. I guess it all comes down to personal preference, but I'd never mistake a Mazda for a BMW. Buick isn't even a BMW and it's more of a luxury brand than Mazda. It's sporty, with tech. And that's fine, if that's your thing. But if I'm comparing an Asian import to a BMW, I'm looking at Lexus, Genesis or maybe Infiniti.
This is 2023. Whoever is dumb enough to pay extra 20k for a dumb badge is their prerogative. I can care less about any badge. For me Mazda is most underrated brand in world and they will forever have my money and full support. Their inline 6 RWD architecture will change the game and it's still Made in Japan ! That's all that matters.
I've always been a fan of Mazda - it's innovative and a breath of fresh air. And now, it has driving dynamics to boot. I am definitely considering this to replace my V60 Cross Country - roughly the same price, more seats, much better powertrain and driving dynamics!
Great Review. The detail of this channel is second to none.
I would downgrade to a 20inch wheel with 265's. So, in the real world, you will hope to get the 25-26 combined. Overall its not a bad option
I would go with the 18s and slap some all weather all terrain tires on it, that way I wouldn’t need snow tires in winter
Agreed, 21s not called for (though yes, the competition and higher up are jumping on the bandwagon, some going to 22s and 23s (X7 option)). And, tire wise, we all know how much Alex likes the wide rubber, but in this package and market segment 275s (again X7, Durango RT etc) unwarranted in my opinion. This is no fire breathing RT V8 with road or track burning pretensions. A 10mm smaller tire width is going to push less air, and that combined with (typically) lighter weight of a downsized (20" or 19") wheel shouldn't take much of a toll, if any, on handling and general road manners if the suspension is well sorted and quality tire used. It's clear, at least for some specs, Mazda has the X7 in its sights. After all, the two are within about 1/2 inch of each other's wheelbase. But, the bigger miss here is the unnecessarily larger wheels. The shorter and shorter (and more vulnerable) sidewall game is getting pretty silly on these crossovers and SUVs. Saw both a Suburban and Range Rover today with the wagon wheel/almost-donk treatment (at least 24s it looked like) and it was comical. The irony: each looking far less "truck" capable than their original (or older) spec or owners intended. Even if never taken off - or even just back - road, aren't these vehicles supposed to LOOK like they CAN!
Ill snatch up the prior gen, I would prefer 18” tires on a touring. Ride Q goes down, cost of tires go up as well 20” or bigger.
I was contemplating a Type S, but after seeing this, I'm very anxious to drive a CX-90 Turbo S Premium Plus. If it drives as I expect and has a nice sound system, then I will probably get one. Nothing I've learned by watching all the videos has turned me off. I had a 2010 RX-350 & it had a mouse pad, so no problem there. Not a huge fan of the rear end design or the seemingly flat sides, but it has a stylish presence & better fuel economy than the MDX, which surprised me. Driving comfort will be my priority.
I’m glad you did a review Alex because I like how detailed you are and your deep dive.
We bought a 2023 Lincoln Nautilus Reserve 335hp 2.7 six cylinder last week for my wife. It was $65+k with $10,800 in options but still $3k less than the Black Label. It startled me how nice it’s put together and thought out. I tell you that to tell you this.
The first vehicle we tested was the Mazda CX90 and I was so pumped because of what I was seeing on it so expectations were high. The $59k version was definitely in play and Milwaukee is not a small city so I was shocked to see the dealership had two to test drive both had the 280 hp. When I got to the dealership I was shocked to see a showroom with ZERO product on the floor! I looked at the salesman and said WTH? He said Japan is still struggling to get production out.
The $48,900 model we took out felt awful and I was so disappointed. It had a little 8 inch infotainment screen and such a plastic feel. The engine wasn’t close to feeling smooth and the tune match to the eight speed was hideous. The doors felt cheap when they closed as did the whole vehicle.
I told the GM when I returned the keys that I was disappointed. I said do you know the size of the infotainment screens size these are up against vs this tiny 8inch thing? I traded my 2022 Genesis GV70 3.5t in on a new 2023 Genesis G80 Sport Prestige and am used to a huge 14.5 inch screen and her Nautilus screen dwarfs those! He said Mazda did that on purpose for safety reasons 😂
Your review discussed how come the transmission feels the way it does but you are much more tolerant than I am in wanting a buttery smooth engine and transmission pairing and tune. Unless the top of the line CX90 is a totally different vehicle, I must say it’s quite a disappointment. My wife traded her 2020 Palisade Limited in and everything about that still crushed the Mazda.
As I know, $48,900 model is 3.3 TURBO PREMIUM, it has 10.25" full-color center display, but higher trim from 3.3 TURBO PREMIUM PLUS, it has 12.3" full-color center display
i prefer CX90 Turbo S with 340-hp vs your model you test drive only has 280hp.
I agree with you about the door felt cheap, i have not tested the top trim so i do not know there is any different or not 😃
You should go to China shopping cars , the display size will shock you, and they are cheaper compared to what offered in the US
Excellent video!
Love the look of the CX-90 but don’t need the back seats.
Going to wait for the CX-70 and pray that it has the same high output engine as the 90
Hey Alex, great review as always! Does the lane keep and adaptive cruise work well? Comparable to BMW's?
Right now, considering style, price and content, there is no competition, as far as I am concerned.
I am waiting a couple years for Mazda to work out the new-model issues and an additional two years for a lightly used POC Premium Plus or S Premium Plus to replace my 2019 CX-9 Signature.
As a chauffeur, yes, the lack of transmission smoothness would be a big problem.
Here’s hoping that Mazda comes out with a Mazda6-style sedan using this engine and RWD/AWD drivetrain. A gigantic SUV is not even remotely on my radar, but a proper RWD sport sedan with Mazda’s legendary driving dynamics most certainly is.
Looking forward to the cx70 3.3T premium package for around $43k in red on tan. Should be a great competitor to the rdx and gv70 for $7k - $12k cheaper than either of those.
Where did you read the pricing on the cx-70? I'm also leaning more towards that one.
The cx70 is rumored to be ~$5k cheaper than cx90 package per package . Note I said $43k for premium package not the TOTL. A comparable (aspec) rdx new is $51k at the moment and the gv70 6 cylinder is ~$58k
Having driven an X7 as a surprise rental upgrade, I can totally understand how the CX-90 would be a viable value alternative to the X7. Given BMW’s long-term reliability, it’s one of those cars you lease rather than buy, whereas the CX-90 would be a car you can hang onto.
Except you can not )))
They need to fix the 2nd row. They need a bench option in the 2nd row. I would keep the 3rd row down always, leave it as a large trunk but I still need the ability to carry 5 people around or 4 and a small dog with luggage in the back on long trips. Again, need a bench, and that fancy 2nd row console needs to be removeable aka MDX.
Best review of CX-90 so far! Detailed and neutral! Good job!
Hey Alex thanks for the video! I love the top trim without the black going around the wheels! But it’s been a year now and I’ve seen so many tellurides on the road and I just don’t see alot of cx 90 a on the road …. I need to make my decision soon.
Mazda states that their transmission is not a DCT because it uses the mild hybrid electric motor at low speeds instead of a torque converter. If you get one for a long term test, it would be interesting to simulate 20 mins of stop and go driving and see what that transmission does when that small batter is depleted
The way the car is designed on hybrids I don't think the battery will ever be fully depleted.
@@kevtn8 The CX-90 has a combination motor/generator. If it is acting as a motor, it cannot generate power and if it is generating power it cannot act as a motor.
I do not know the software but either you are pushing a 5,000 lb vehicle with a 190 Hp 4 cylinder and using some of that HP to charge the battery or the battery is providing some of the Hp to move the vehicle and you are not charging.
Will it ever be depleted to 0, probably not. Will it deplete below 20%, probably yes and lithium batteries operated below 20% will lower their life expectancy, in addition to the normal degradation of the battery. Look at the 100,000 mile warranty. Battery degradation is not covered.
The white interior with the cool wood just oozes luxury.
Great review, but $61K for a MAZDA SUV with no head up display and 2 way lumbar support, and only on driver's side. How much will the dealer markups be???
Who said it doesn't have a HUD?
Why you need HUD for bro. Those are stupid features.
Love it. 🥰 I only hope I can get it without having to wait years...
I’m not a fan of the back but the front is nice. I really like the white color. Something I’ve never said. I’m not a fan of the dash material. Also underwhelmed by the mileage for the phev but overall I like it. Definitely looking forward to the cx 70 and grand highlander now
With the same powertrain as CX-90, CX-70 would be a fun little crossover, and hopefully better economy and range too.
Great review! With a rear bias, how do you think the CX90 would fare on snow and icy roads? Is the AWD a dependable system from Mazda?
Thank you for the video Alex, hope you can respond to me with my question, since you've driven Sorento Phev, if given an opportunity which one would you buy or recommend Sorento or cx90 PHEV when compared to value, comfort and driving dynamics. Thank you!
Good review as always, the rear looks like an old X5.
That engine notes sounds amazing
The Hybrid/PHEV wins me over the MDX. Great review. Thank you.
Love the car, but the pricing is idiotic. I bought a 2022 Pathfinder SL with premium package for 45k. It is well equipped. You can’t even get a 360 camera at that price on a CX90. Want a loaded model? Better shell out 60k plus… If I want to spend that kind of money, I’ll buy a Volvo.
Even though you can touch the screen in the Mazda, that is not the best way to interact with the system. Once you get used to the rotary knob, you’ll never want to put finger prints on the screen again, trust me. I haven’t touched the screen in my Mazda since the first day I got it
The new 2023 pilot is 199.9 inches long, this is only slightly longer than that. It is quite a bit longer than the older pilot.
The only thing holding some back is the really low storage options inside and the possible high repair cost in the future due to timing chain being on the back of the engine which will require lifting the engine out for many repairs. But it’s really fun to drive and it’s by far my favorite HUD with all the details on it. I hate that’s they make you pay a subscription to have remote start instead of adding it to the key FOB.
Impressive. It should sell well. Hope Mazda can make it into a BEV soon too.
Alex, Did Mazda repaint the Golden Gate bridge to match that light grey leather and Maple interior? 🤔
This is the Bay Bridge. Not the Golden Gate. GG has never been a double decker.
@@jml9550 😉
Does it have side folding mirrors?
So glad Mazda finally stepped up and brought out a great new product. I have liked the prev CX-9 but it had been outdated for really long time. I ended up with Subaru Ascent back then cuz Mazda was still not a good contender. But now, all new ball game! Thanks Alex!
Outdated?
@@joecool9739 CX9 is outdated, and I agree with it.
@@blackwhirlwind1245
Whats outdated about it?
@@joecool9739 everything is outdated, interior, exterior, powertrain.
@@blackwhirlwind1245
Turbo 4 is outdated even though every new SUV comes with a turbo 4?
Interior is outdated with a 12 inch screen with android auto and apple carplay?
Exterior with full LED lights and sportback styling is outdated?
🤣
Great review! How does the handling and fun factor compares to the MDX? Thanks
Alex, you asked about what I think about the transmission. As a manual, Mazda3 driver, I think I would be perfectly at home. Mazda is making it feel more like a manual transmission with the deceleration, clutch engagement, etc. I just like the direct feeling of the drivetrain and I think that Would be delivered in this. Although I can see people who don’t drive manuals, being a little taken back by it.
I love Mazda's design language in this long generation.
Great review Alex! Now THIS is a more relevant vehicle worthy of your reviews.
I personally prefer driving Dynamics over third row leg room. I found it interesting that you compared this CX-90 to a BMW X7 versus the BMW X 5.
Additionally, I feel that the Mazda CX90 is a relatively good bargain in the entry level trims.
However, the TURBO S Premium Plus is a bit pricey in my opinion, especially considering it’s a Mazda.
Lastly the lack of complimentary Maintenance is disappointing and a unwise decision on Mazda’s part considering that most of the competition offers some form of complimentary maintenance. I’m considering purchasing the Turbo S Premium Plus even though it’s about $3000 more than I was expecting or hoping for.
Kevin Jones -He explains in the video specifically why he compared this to the X7.
Was really waiting for this one, but two disappointments; I was hoping for more towing capacity; I would like to get rid of my leased F-150, but I’m more than a bit concerned with always being near the capacity. By the time you put 60 gallons of gas between the boat and the car, plus people and gear with my 4000 lbs boat and trailer, it’s right up at 5000 lbs. Second, a squared off back would give more room for gear. I don’t need a third seat, but I don’t want to spend Expedition or Tahoe money.
Rear seats fold flat. I usually kept the rear seats folded in my old Mazda3 for years because I used the space more than the seats. Towing though, sorta out of luck. agree you need a bit of a buffer with towing capacity
Isn’t the point of getting an extra long family three row SUV is for the interior roominess, practicality, and functionality? This car is extra long, but none of that useful features. This is why the prior CX nine never sold well. The telluride is shorter, but with much more interior room and functionality
Completely agree.
Agree it seems odd and I am not sure about the transmission . Will have to drive it
Long exterior length, short interior room, 👎 Madza just never wins at cargo/interior room.
Inability to get 8 seats with top trims is just baffling.
So much to love about this one. However, as you mentioned in your review, 2nd & 3rd row legroom leans on the tighter end, which is unfortunate. That’s the deal breaker for me. Need & want a spacious feeling 2nd & 3rd row.
I need this in a large wagon format. 5 or 4 seat, AWD, and aimed squarely at a 5 series with Mazda Pricing.
What I don't quite get, base model Mazda only 280hp and 330ftlbs out of a 3.3L inline 6 turbo? A Kia, yes Kia, 2.5L 4cyl turbo makes 290hp and 311ftlbs on regular 87 octane gas.
For the added space, big hood, weight and complexity servicing, why? This engine should be making +400ftlbs, or something. Feel like it's way under-tuned. Will be less stressed of course and smoother. Maybe the transmission can't take the hp or torque?
...to add, to get the extra up to 340hp in the S model, need to run premium gas (recommended). How's that on the wallet $$$. I bet many wouldn't notice the difference 99% of the time. Seems like good marketing to me.
If one ran premium in the base model, wouldn't surprise me HP and torque would get a lot closer to the S once the computer pushed timing a little.
Sounds like a non-luxury suv for car people, and the drivetrain is amazing.
Acura MDX isn’t a luxury product. It’s interior is cheap piano black plastic for the entire dash. Mazda nailed this design and is much more premium than any rebadged Honda cough Acura. Mazda should have gave this a torque converter 8 speed
Acura is luxury 😂😂 no one looks at a Mazda as a prestige brand
ff this is prelude to the CX 70 this summer, I'm ready to lay out some serious coin!
The electric motor, not the ICE, drives the CX-90 from the standstill. Does it concern you if the small 1/3 KWh battery is flat? Or the ICE provides electricity directly to the electric motor?
By design there is no way electric motor will be fully depleted. There will be a safety buffer like any other hybrid.
I really like the cx90. I see the transmission design as a bit of a drawback but not a deal breaker
Base inline 6 vs high end. Is it worth the extra cost?
Is the rear suspension multi link or torsion base like the cx60?
Multi. Same platform thankfully.
I say from my torsion beam Mazda3....
Top of the line Premium Turbo S or the MDX Type S for $10K more? I'd go Type S for the air suspension and adaptive suspension. SH-AWD is amazing too.
The base seems like a nice value in the modern market, but still very expensive at $700 per mo for 5 years.
You can Go 7 years, its not a BMW, it will last.
The interest rates would be astronomical. There is no need to buy at MSRP right now, unless your into bdsm.
@@Rocket9944 Absolutely HORRIBLE financial advice!
It seems that Mazda focuses more on so-called enthusiasts (reviewers) than regular customers.
1) They don't provide real safety tech, claiming that the driver needs to drive the car.
This is essential for regular customers who require safety features as standard , and only japanese not to offer them as standard.
None of these reviewers really care about it , as all they drive is for an hour or 2 for a video .
2) The interiors are super claustrophobic. People need space and roomier cabins.
3) They make the steering harder, and these reviewers go gaga over how nice it is to have weight and feel.
However, most people need a light and easier steering.
4) The light interiors are a favorite of these "enthusiasts," but its a nightmare for families, particularly those with kids.
Finally, are they cheaper like a Subaru or Nissan? The answer is a loud NO !!!!
I don't care for SUVs or crossovers across the board, but I hope the CX-90 is successful. Considering they're such a small car company, the only way they can afford to keep making cars like the Miata is if their volume sellers do well.
A 7 or 8 seat turbo s would be ideal
If the dimensions of the vehicle don't change you can't magically turn a 2 seat rear bench into a 3 seat rear bench without shrinking the occupants. It's a great looking vehicle but I am not sure this segment is popular for most Mazda buyers.
Why there’s no bench seat option in top variant. ?
cx90 vs pilot??
Thanks, good review. Just I think to change my cx9 to new cx90.
Cornering lights only in topend ? (Crosstrek base has it ) … Still they dont offer lane centering as standard ??
Claustrophobic cars !!
Can the software be updated over-the-air (OTA) or do I have to go back to Mazda to get bug fixes?
With this new transmission design that relies on electric power to push the car from stop, what happens if the battery is depleted ? will have to wait for the engine to add enough charge to the battery?
The motor CAN power the transmission power, but because of how electric motors are designed there's still a direct connection from the engine to the transmission. The electric motor is almost like a sleeve around the connection.
Even if the PHEV says it's at 0%, it's still going to have enough juice to add a bit of help similar to a mild hybrid. It just won't allow any electric only range.
There's always a safety net. This is not new design. Some of luxury brands use similar design.
Why do you say mdx type s cant send power to the wheels? Its rear wheel based
Great review and nice background with the bridge - - -
This is nearly a direct competitor to the Explorer ST which goes for under $60k, and a good alternative if you want better interior aesthetics/quality. Though performance-wise the ST will probably beat it, and is also RWD-based with near 50/50 weight distribution.
and its a ford. the ST explorer has myriad of issues. I have a cx-9 and it hasn't had one issue in 4 years. I almost bought the ST. but couldn't do it. this is a great alternative to a BMW x5. and a more reliable car
Really enjoyed this video with great simple and straightforward info. Amazing for this price. Am thinking of the X7 but need to reconsider after watching this video. Greeting from Europe...😊
i am waiitng for Cx-70
Hey awesome video.
Quick comment; since the video of the steering wheel was set to timelapse it would be best to not include it. Very distracting to watch.
IIRC, you can make the Mazda system be touch. It is some sort of setting in one of the menus. Boy, do I wish them success in their sales such that something a Mazda6 sedan could exist again.
@Alex, thanks for the great initial review. Coincidentally, I'm cross shopping the CX90 with the MDX. Your unequivocal comment that you prefer the CX90 over the MDX Type S was surprising given the performance dynamics of the Type S (at least on paper for someone who hasn't driven either. I've only driven the A-Spec). The top of the line Type S is about $73K though, but does have the very cool massaging chairs, air suspension and adaptive dampers. The one thing that makes the MDX really attractive is the second row bench seat that can be converted to captain's chairs. I hate how manufacturers have been equating captain's chairs with luxury for three row SUVs, and do not provide a second row bench seat in top trims. If the top trims CX90 had a bench seat option, the CX90 would be a no brainer for me (specs wise). Hopefully, Mazda will wise up and copy the MDX's second row seat set up. Losing that middle seat makes utilizing the uncomfortable third row a must anytime one has more than four in the vehicle. And that eats into the trunk space as well. Keep up the good work!
I thought he meant to say” mdx “ not type s. Type s 0-60 is a whole second faster than CX90, handling is better, sound system, configs are better. Not mention to air suspension and adaptive damper.
It's also wrong wheel drive
We own an MDX Type S which we are very happy with surprised that the CX90 is slower.
@@dndodd100type s is really fast, its dynamic acceleration is also fabulous. Only next to BMW X5. But when you factor reliability in, you don’t want a bimmer no more.
Just my two cents, although MDX interior is certainly nice, it will age worse than the CX-90. Perhaps a point of consideration if you wish to keep the car longer
Hey Alex you should give Biden some lesons in talking, 30+ min of clearly spoken facts!
Well done dude