Alex- I have had my CX90 (still the Signature in Canada) since the first week of July. You got what so many other reviewers missed. The driving dynamics is much better than all the competition not to mention styling. My only gripe is that reviewers always talk about head room in “family” 3 row SUV’s. In most families the parents are in the front seats and the kids sit in the 2nd or 3rd row to keep them separated. If you use it like that there is more than enough room in the 3rd row. I also owned a 2020 Explorer ST and traded it in for the Mazda. The CX90 handles better not to mention the fit, finish and materials of the interior. The Explorer interior is a joke. I think I also had 8 recalls with it over 3 years.
I never understood the obsession with rating 3rd row space based on a 6 foot man sitting back there. That scenario almost never happens. Families put kids back there. I have a CX-9 and my girls would ask to sit back there even with the 2nd row empty. Those "tight" seats are actually big to the child they're intended for.
Excellent point! We call it family SUV as the product's core target segment is families with non-adult kids, but we give a low rating when adults cannot fit in the 3rd row. What percentage of familes have 3+ adult kids that they haul around?😂
Completely agree with your comment, have a couple of friends having CX90, their experience to the car was beyond expectations! In terms of all alex reviews.
@@batgele2796 he is pretty good at comparing interior sizes of three row SUVs in his special - it’s one of the most thorough comparison on RUclips. 68k$ sounds way too high, maybe if you factor in tax / fees / registration which should differ by state… correct
@@d.j.cantelli8074At least front-end of Lexus does not look like the front of a Tacoma like on the Rav , Cross ,Highlandter Only Venza which looks more like a Lexus... Rear of the Venza is better looking too.
24:32 The CX-90 doesn’t come close to $68k. Where are you getting this spread? The Premium doesn’t come close to $64,855. Are you adding accessories or something?
$62k without options, so pretty easy to get their by adding simple things like splash guards, premium carpets (not included???) and electronic rearview mirror etc..
The BMW X1 has more interior room, all the seat features Alex wants including the missing lumbar and thigh support. Better gas mileage, better everything.
I would argue that this Mazda is a great 2 row SUV that happens to have a 3rd row(for some reason). Just a second thought: that wet clutch will probably never wear out with the electric motor giving the initial push and keeping the clutch slip to a minimum.
You think that a motor and wet clutch and all the control equipment to make it work, never mind the lithium battery, would be nearly as reliable as a traditional torque converter? No way these are going to go 150K OR 250K miles without major replacement. There are great standard 8 speed and now 10 speed traditional ATs being made these days, why would anyone choose this complex non-sense?
The biggest mistake Mazda makes with this model: Sending the most expensive version to reviewers. It completely ruined this models reputation, the reactions are always the same in every comment section. The mere existence of this overpriced version has absolutely no influence on other versions of the CX-90. It starts at $40k, compare that to other $40k 3-rows. Also Mazda offers 0.9% financing and there are no mark-ups. CX-90 WITHOUT the overpriced "S" engine option are GREAT VALUE for money. And the PHEV version is great value compared to other PHEV and actually available. Just bc Mazda keeps marketing the worst version people think it's overpriced when it's actually a bargain. And other than Toyota's HSD hybrids all other models in this segment get significantly worse fuel economy. Btw Toyota's Hybrid Max version is much less efficient than their regular HSD sytsem (that is not available for Tx), the Max is only efficient in city driving, in a direct comparison test by Caranddriver at highway speeds the Max got much worse MPG than the Mazda.
Exactly Turbo S with the same drive train is selling slightly for over 50k based on the actual sales reports and in this price point it very competitive against Toyota or Honda. Said long time ago that Mazda is shooting itself in the leg doing that.
Great review, Alex. I appreciate hearing your second chance look at the CX-90 after the launch. Knowing that some of the drivetrain improvements have made their way into the production vehicles is great to hear. We have a CX-9 which we love. Being a family of three small people, it's just the right size for us. I think Mazda has simply picked its spot and isn't trying to be everything for everyone. There are many makes that provide roomier cabins, more towing and other features, but the CX-90 is looking for those who feel it's just right, like us. Our CX-9 is our first Mazda and likely not the last.
I’m with you. Family of 4 and I feel like it will be the perfect size for the 4 and 2 year old, plus all the stuff we travel with. Plus I wanted a comfortable daily driver for school runs, swim class and driving myself to work
It's funny that everyone is passionate about an inline six and RWD, but then criticizes the issues that come with that layout. Mazda is still not perfectly premium but very close. They also don't offer the very last tech, but the one you find are definitely working well.
I completely agree. Some of the reviews on this excellent vehicle are so unfair. We need to see more reviews of this vehicle being compared to the more expensive RWD luxury vehicles it is trying to emulate.
Test drove this and the new Lexus TX since I was cross-shopping then. The Lexus TX four banger turbo engine sounded horrible. The turbo charged six in the Mazda sounds glorious. I agree with you Alex that the back is the ugliest side. But I disagree with you and think that the front and sides of the vehicle are gorgeous. Great proportions. Kudos to Mazda for caring about vehicle dynamics, Such as RWD, in-line 6, 50-50 weight distribution, wet-clutch, when all the competition cares about is interior size.
It’s amazing to see a company like Mazda with such limited resources, try so hard and produce such a great product like the CX90 and then on the other hand see Lexus, a company with all the money in the world and put in zero effort int here offerings/rebadging a Toyota. Really hope this sells well for Mazda, they deserve it
In Canada, the top of the line CX90 is cheaper than the Lexus TX by a significant difference. Take a look: Mazda is offering it at Canadian $66,503 (fully loaded Signature aka S Premium+) vs. Lexus TX for Canadian $83,535 (yes, the fully loaded TX gas model "Exec 6-passenger" top of the line Lexus is Canadian $83,535). Hybrid Lexus TX? Even more expensive. The Mazda CX90 seems like a bargain kn comparison. The only thing that is killing us in Canada right now is the insane interest rates to lease or finance.
@@pete-bd5lj dude, I love it. If you can get a used one that was used a loaner at a dealer, that’s the way to go. I got a preferred plus trim, with the exterior and interior combo I wanted for $36,000. It had 3,800 miles on it, and it’s certified by Mazda. It’s an excellent value and I use it mainly as a 2 row, as I only have 2 little ones. I have used the 3rd row in a pinch, but just like all the reviews say, it’s tight back there. Other than that, it’s been in a road closing blizzard and it did great. It drives awesome and the base stereo is worlds better than my 2024 JLUR.
Patiently awaiting the cx70 launch… I’ve passed on many a used rdx and gv70 in favor of waiting for mazda. I will say the SH-awd on the mdx and rdx is beastmode when driving in the Rockies especially during winter. My wife’s mdx has been bulletproof since we bought it in 2011.
I too am waiting for the CX70 launch. The question that I don't know has been answered is, how long is the 70? There were rumors in Q3 that it was going to be the same as the 90, but without the 3rd row seat. Then we started hearing that it would be a slightly longer CX60. Hopefully we see it soon. And hopefully it will have closer to 50 cu ft of cargo space behind the 2nd row (like the Honda Passport or VW Cross-whatever the 2-row is called) rather than 30 cu ft like most 2-row vehicles. If it's the latter, I'm not going to be very interested.
We finally got our answer about the CX70. Exactly the same size as the 90 but without a third row. Outside looks better. Clearly more of a direct attack at the X5. But kinda lazy by Mazda. Thoughts on the 70 from the group?
@@Ethanjbo135 yep I’ve made 100x posts on every RUclips channel how this is the biggest fail from Mazda in a decade. The entire product team involved with design and conception phase should be fired. This should be a gv70 / rdx competitor not a cx90 clone with badging. Simply made a cx90 trim then fold down the 3rd row..
@@aceofspades6667I was kind of hoping for a "coupe-ified" version of the CX-90 to preserve the cargo space from a floor space perspective, namely square feet (I don't load higher than the top of the 2nd row seat, so a swooped down rear wouldn't impact my cargo space.) But we have to remember that Mazda is a *SMALL* car company that just spent a fortune on this new RWD platform, and so it will likely be a while until we see another size vehicle. Just my guess.
None of the negative about this vehicle bothers me. I’m 5’7” & my wife is 5’6”. We are empty nesters with no grandkids. The 3rd row would stay folded down. Our Frenchie could stay in the back in his crate (wouldn’t let him get on that beautiful leather interior. 😂 Plenty of room for our taller friends in the second row. This thing is gorgeous inside and out in my opinion. Fun to drive and a great road trip vehicle for us. Perfect. Excellent review. This car is the sweet spot for us.
I’m fairly certain Mazda couldn’t produce nearly enough of these to try to compete head on with the mass market competitors. That was never their goal. They’ve been selling over 5,000/month which equates to about 30-40% more than they ever managed with the CX-9. Pretty sure that’s about what their goal was.
We had a 2021 CX-9 and loved it, traded it in and bought the CX-90 and love it. Really enjoy the driving dynamics ride and handling, and really appreciate the wide tire width. Don’t find this tire width often, really grateful for that. Mazda is doing great! Have a Blessed Day!
7:11 I think Alex has a good point about having a more luxurious front seat, however I overall disagree on the need for 4 way lumbar and massaging seats. Mazda can’t price themselves out of the competition with less important features like that. The most important seat luxury feature in the past 10 years is not massaging seats, but instead Air Conditioned cooled seats. Hyundai, Kia, and Genesis SUVs have demonstrated that AC seats sell cars in hot climates. Massaging seats from german Audi/BMW cars are often just weak air bags, while massaging seats from japanese-american Acura/Lexus cars are stronger, they are also way too expensive options.
All longitudinal-placed rear-wheel drive platform is “small” in cabin place. That is just the intrinsic nature of a premium platform. People need a “big” car looks for Lexus ES (not GS), TX (not GX), Atlas (not Tourage).
Alex, this is not a livery vehicle. The third row is for emergency or smaller children. Get over it. That said, could not agree more with you that Mazda failed on the front seats regarding lumbar, massage and thigh extension.
We have rented one fora out a week on a trip with 3 kids. Overall great looks, feel of materials is nice, interior is nice and easy to use. It is just that this vehicle is for max 4 people. You look at it from outside and wonder where all the space went. We had to keep one of the 3rd row seats folded at all times to fit stuff. And fortunately none of my kids wear size 11 right now. So we made it work.
Alex, your reviews are always spot on… I found the interior of the higher trim level with the center console to be too small inside… Ended up buying a lower trim level with captains chairs for the roominess… I constantly bonk my head on the hatch when it is open 😂
The CX-90 is a brilliant vehicle; great looking, RWD-basis, inline 6; all the BMWish traits that almost all manufacturers, including BMW, are abandoning. The problem is not that it is "small inside". The problem is the long term viability of the vehicle. I was ready to spring for one, after a very impressive test drive, and then I watched Amed's review (Care Care Nut). He adroitly points out that the engine is installed backwards, with all the valve train bits, including the high pressure pump, up against the firewall. To do any maintenance or repair work, the engine will have to come out. Really Mazda?! Complete non-starter for me. If I were Mazda I'd be holding my breathe for the first 3-5 years, as having to pull engines on large numbers of potential repairs is going to be very expensive. Another annoyance, for me, is that they do not offer a non-hybrid option, it's either a lite version or a full version. What about a *no, thank you* version. I have no desire to have an electric motor attached to my transmission, with battery and all the implied control modules and complexity. For what? Stop foisting hybrids on the public, please!
Mazda- turn the engine around so it can be serviced without removal, and offer a standard 8 or 10 speed AT with torque converter, and I'll buy one. Promise. And the public should do their part and reign in the EPA, and CA CAFE, bureaucrats that are forever ratcheting up the regulations, which force car companies to incorporate all this nonsense; hybrid, direct injection, cylinder deactivation, DPF in diesels. STOP IT! The regulations on air quality should have been locked in at mid 1990s level. When is the air "clean enough"? When we are all driving electric cars? Stop voting for Deep State bureaucrats!
I think this car is design is more for family with 4 or 5 kids in mind and another thing to remember is that by the time kids start to grow out of the 3rd row seat they are probably close or ready to applying for their P’s plate and be driving their own car. This is normal a normal cycle, when the kids grown up some parents will downgrade to a smaller car until their kids have children of their own and some grandparents Like myself will upgrade back to a large SUV to make room for prams, small bikes, little scooters 🛴 plus toys, baby bag, blankets and whatever else they want to take while staying over with their grandparents when their parents go away for a peaceful weekend away. Or maybe the grandparents want to take their grandkids on a holiday during school break to give their parents a break 😁
I said the Lexus tx sucked even before we saw it on June 8th. I kept saying it all over the internet yet everyone laughed. Alex even called me the internets biggest unapologetic Toyota hater.😂 Now he and all of you are just repeating what I’ve been saying yet none of you are giving me any credit for being right
That's exactly how all engines should sit in an engine bay (longitudinally), but I'm old school like that. All of my current vehicles have longitudinally mounted engines including the WRX, Tacoma, and Duster (obviously). All are manuals too. I was interested in the CX-90 for my mom since she was car shopping. The inline longitudinally mounted 6 cylinder engine caught my interest (if you're a true enthusiast, you already know how well balanced inline 6's are), but the pseudo-hybrid transmission lost my interest quickly. Bummer!
I have had my CX90 PHEV since September and everything you say is right on the money. For me I wanted a little more room than your average 2 row but I know I probably will use the 3rd row only from time to time. What you say about the handling and ride, the premium "feel", and the "not huge" interior space is pretty much as it is. If you are looking for the roomiest family hauler then look elsewhere but for a "bigger than 2 row" SUV with good handling and efficiency it's a vehicle worth looking at. One point that often comes up in other reviews I've seen is the infotainment system. After owning it for a while it turns out that I actually prefer rotating wheel controller that Mazda uses for their infotainment system over the touch screen that I had in my previous vehicle. I know we are all used to our touch screen phones but I find the infotainment system's wheel controller is a lot less distracting than a touch screen when driving. It takes some getting used to and certainly when you first jump into it (as car reviewers do on a daily basis) you wonder how the heck does this work, but longer term I think it is a better system. Perhaps I'm just an oddball.
Thank you for your review, Alex, but I do not agree with your critical position. Mazda still has a lot of features to approve, but I'd be surprised if you showed me such amazing progress between two next generation models at Toyota/Honda/VW/Mercedes. Small auto company made a huge spet ahead in comparasing with autogiant.
Here in Canada, I would go for the Mazda CX-90 2024 in the base trim (GS) as I don't need all the BELLS AND WHISTLES or maybe just wait for the CX-70 as I don't really need a 3rd row. 😁
They should have just kept the exterior look like the CX-9, because that thing really hasn’t aged. It’s a shame about the packaging, too. Big on the outside, small on the inside.
Very detailed review. Thanks I do wish MAZDA had got the CX-90 styling as good as the did on my 2019 CX-5 Grand Touring Reserve (2.5 L. turbo, AWD). If I get the Premium S version it will be in 2025. But that may precipitate a divorce since my wife thinks the upscale CX-5 "... is all you need."
@@DM72513 what about after you run through the ev battery? What the acceleration and performance once the hybrid kicks in? Also doesn’t the efficiency of the hybrid take a hit after the battery dies? Since you have to carry around everything needed for an ev to go? Seems like you get way better efficiency if you just go straight ev or hybrid. I mean if you really only drive enough to get by on the 20-30 miles of a PHEV ev mode then you might as well get an ev and just charge up once a week.
Great review, spot on with your commentary.. i have the PHEV version, and so far very good but for a few issues. I also hasa CX-9, and I think it had a bit more room...
Mazda should revive the Efini brand, similar to how Hyundai established Genesis to separate their focus on different models.... If they had the resources 🙁
Alex, thanks for your interesting test drive and comparisons. Are you planning to test drive Lexus TX (350, 500h, etc) any time soon?? Would be really interesting to hear whether there is any difference in the ride comfort of different versions of TX and in comparison to the Grand Highlander as well.. Happy New Year and best seasonal greetings!
Alex was very underwhelmed with the TX in his first drive. I highly doubt that him driving the 350 or 500h again will change his mind. He said the 350 is as slow as a Nissan rogue at over 8 seconds 0-60. The 500h is still slow at 0-60 of 6.3 seconds and that hybrid max system is not terribly smooth. He noticed the same thing in the grand highlander
nobody cares about handling and performance for a 3 row family hauler so the main point of this mazda is pointless. If you want a sporty grocery soccer mobile then your priorities are delusional.
When you're ready to replace your Durango SRT 392,only to realize that the saying "there's no replacement for displacement," doesn't just apply to the engine.
Oh yeah, too small and. No storage, either. Yes , it looks nice, but for the price, not enough utility. Not much seat bolster. That vent sticking out is a dumb idea
Dang I just realized the Honda Pilot’s 3rd row headroom (39.3”) is more than the 2nd row headroom for the CX-90 (38.4”). Why the difference here vs Mazda’s 39.3” measurement?
Alex, apologies if I missed it in the review, but can you comment on the quickness of the steering and how that feels? I've heard that Mazda gives the CX-90 a slower ratio to allow for a more adjustable feel in corners. Any thoughts on that?
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Amen to that ! But now everyone wants bigger and bigger.... Then complain about fuel economy 😆 Europe is way more advanced than us.... Small is beautiful and useful
I was just at my local Mazda dealership yesterday for a routine service on our CX-5. It looked like there were a million CX-90's on the lot out front and around back in every color available. I asked a sales guy how they were selling so far, and the look he gave me was one of concern. They certainly look good (overall) feel premium compared to the mainstream competition and having driven various Mazda's now for 17 years I'm sure the driving dynamics are a standout in the segment along with the new powertrain options. I think most shoppers are looking for a 3-row family vehicle are looking for more interior volume, more passenger room in the third row and more overall cargo space, i.e., Toyota Grand Highlander, Kia Telluride etc. Form and function over style and performance. It's not a minivan alternative nor is it going to sway BMW x5/x7 shoppers. Personally, I think they kind of missed the mark on this one, but I wish them well!
Isn't the x5 a top seller? Ive never heard anyone say thats because its so roomy! Space is not the only reason people buy an SUV. There is a matrix full of reasons, some things cant even be explained.logically. And so far Mazda is selling twice as many 90s than 9s. Give them a couple years and that number will double
It's a beautiful car no doubt, but you can't look at it as a Pilot, Atlas, Pathfinder, Highlander, etc., competitor. It's a 4-5 passenger vehicle with an emergency 3rd row, that's it. Think of it as a X5 with a 3rd row for a small child in a pinch. It's just too small to be considered as a viable option if you need all 3 rows. Also, Mazda just took a reduction on MSRPs realizing that $60K for the top trim is a tall ask.
Totally get making it a sportier suv, but why Mazda thought making a car large on the outside, but small on the inside was a good idea is beyond me. Too cramped and visibility is poor. Really wanted to like it.
Inline 6 with turbo and @ 80% powering rearwheels. No debating, no guessing, while you got an inline 6 with turbo just a reversals what government set out for combustion obsolete. If the MDX has inline 6 with turbo, then there is no way the CX-90 would stance a chance.
News flash ! The PHEV is faster than the Turbo S. Car and Driver did formal testing on all CX 90 power trains. CX 90 PHEV 0-60 is 5.9 seconds. The Turbo S was 6.2. The difference is the big 177hp/199 tq electric motor. It is waay smoother and capable than the 18hp 48volt mild hybrid.😳😎. Best of both world baby.Their testing is more reliable and regimented than any RUclipsrs " Butt dyno".
The 3rd row legroom sucks...practically puts the feet on the railing of the 'pushed' up 2nd row. Good only for babies honestly..there is literally no carpet space in 3rd row ..that should tell you everything.
As much as I am enjoying my CX-5, the “90” is too car much for me. I’m waiting for the “70” as I’m sure it will have similar characteristics. Perhaps like the Volkswagen Atlas/Atlas Cross Sport? BTW, Alex, it looks like you’ve trimmed up a bit!
I have the the cx90 phev premium i love it so far its a decent family hauler we rarely use the third maybe a few times a year. Its quick and fun for a mama who loves cars . i love the ride compared to its competitors which i drove as well. So far its a hit! I get so many compliments on it and double takes when I’m driving.
The interior is definitely better than the list of competitors but the exterior, really? It's nicer than the MDX? No way Exterior styling: MDX CX90 Grand Highlander TX
The vehicle is greater as a whole than sum of its parts. MDX dual screen center stack and piano black fingerprint magnet is a blocker for anyone looking for a great interior… which you will face most times driving the car…
Alex- I have had my CX90 (still the Signature in Canada) since the first week of July. You got what so many other reviewers missed. The driving dynamics is much better than all the competition not to mention styling. My only gripe is that reviewers always talk about head room in “family” 3 row SUV’s. In most families the parents are in the front seats and the kids sit in the 2nd or 3rd row to keep them separated. If you use it like that there is more than enough room in the 3rd row. I also owned a 2020 Explorer ST and traded it in for the Mazda. The CX90 handles better not to mention the fit, finish and materials of the interior. The Explorer interior is a joke. I think I also had 8 recalls with it over 3 years.
The 3rd is for kids. And I have not seen adults seating in the 3rd row in a full-size SUV.
Welcome to the Mazda family! It's a good place to be.
I never understood the obsession with rating 3rd row space based on a 6 foot man sitting back there. That scenario almost never happens. Families put kids back there. I have a CX-9 and my girls would ask to sit back there even with the 2nd row empty. Those "tight" seats are actually big to the child they're intended for.
Excellent point! We call it family SUV as the product's core target segment is families with non-adult kids, but we give a low rating when adults cannot fit in the 3rd row. What percentage of familes have 3+ adult kids that they haul around?😂
Completely agree with your comment, have a couple of friends having CX90, their experience to the car was beyond expectations! In terms of all alex reviews.
how did you get to $68K on the top trim?!? MSRP is ~$62K with destination fees included.
Are we talking PHEV or Inline 6 powetrain? Which trim?
@@David_Journey regardless of the powertrain the $68K is wrong. I frequently notice errors with Alex’s numbers, this must be yet another one.
@@batgele2796 he is pretty good at comparing interior sizes of three row SUVs in his special - it’s one of the most thorough comparison on RUclips. 68k$ sounds way too high, maybe if you factor in tax / fees / registration which should differ by state… correct
Even on the top trim, there are optional packages you can add to the car. Fully loaded tops out around $68300
Awesome comparison video Alex !!! Loving the CX90 ❤ I hope that they comeout with a carbon edition this upcoming year 💪🏽🔥
Might be the first time I disagree with Alex on looks. If this rear end looks bad, what do you think of the new Santa Fe?
He’s obsessed with everything Hyundai Kia does
The Santa Fe looks oddly low waisted to me. It strikes me as a design a french company would have come up with.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Citroen a des designs bien plus beau ...
How about those new Toyota and Lexus rear ends....yikes 😬
@@d.j.cantelli8074At least front-end of Lexus does not look like the front of a Tacoma like on the Rav , Cross ,Highlandter Only Venza which looks more like a Lexus... Rear of the Venza is better looking too.
I think you confused X5 with X7 in the interior space stats, should say X7
I was thinking the same
24:32 The CX-90 doesn’t come close to $68k. Where are you getting this spread? The Premium doesn’t come close to $64,855. Are you adding accessories or something?
$62k without options, so pretty easy to get their by adding simple things like splash guards, premium carpets (not included???) and electronic rearview mirror etc..
@@mj8495 Those aren't options, those are accessories.
Alex.. what about the Durango? I kept waiting for you to mention it.
IM sold, i want one!!!
Alex and others, can someone advise regarding the predicted durability and possible high cost of repairs for a relatively complicated power train?
Fun car to drive. Not fun to own. But Mazda is going in the right direction with this CX-90.
I own on and I love it
The BMW X1 has more interior room, all the seat features Alex wants including the missing lumbar and thigh support. Better gas mileage, better everything.
Hell no
I would argue that this Mazda is a great 2 row SUV that happens to have a 3rd row(for some reason).
Just a second thought: that wet clutch will probably never wear out with the electric motor giving the initial push and keeping the clutch slip to a minimum.
Unfortunately no. Motor powers the car via wet clutch.
You think that a motor and wet clutch and all the control equipment to make it work, never mind the lithium battery, would be nearly as reliable as a traditional torque converter? No way these are going to go 150K OR 250K miles without major replacement. There are great standard 8 speed and now 10 speed traditional ATs being made these days, why would anyone choose this complex non-sense?
The biggest mistake Mazda makes with this model: Sending the most expensive version to reviewers. It completely ruined this models reputation, the reactions are always the same in every comment section. The mere existence of this overpriced version has absolutely no influence on other versions of the CX-90. It starts at $40k, compare that to other $40k 3-rows. Also Mazda offers 0.9% financing and there are no mark-ups. CX-90 WITHOUT the overpriced "S" engine option are GREAT VALUE for money. And the PHEV version is great value compared to other PHEV and actually available. Just bc Mazda keeps marketing the worst version people think it's overpriced when it's actually a bargain.
And other than Toyota's HSD hybrids all other models in this segment get significantly worse fuel economy. Btw Toyota's Hybrid Max version is much less efficient than their regular HSD sytsem (that is not available for Tx), the Max is only efficient in city driving, in a direct comparison test by Caranddriver at highway speeds the Max got much worse MPG than the Mazda.
Exactly Turbo S with the same drive train is selling slightly for over 50k based on the actual sales reports and in this price point it very competitive against Toyota or Honda. Said long time ago that Mazda is shooting itself in the leg doing that.
Can Mazda come up with a Mazda 6 speed with this very powertrain and sporty driving dynamics to boot. That would be cool
Great review, Alex. I appreciate hearing your second chance look at the CX-90 after the launch. Knowing that some of the drivetrain improvements have made their way into the production vehicles is great to hear. We have a CX-9 which we love. Being a family of three small people, it's just the right size for us. I think Mazda has simply picked its spot and isn't trying to be everything for everyone. There are many makes that provide roomier cabins, more towing and other features, but the CX-90 is looking for those who feel it's just right, like us. Our CX-9 is our first Mazda and likely not the last.
I’m with you. Family of 4 and I feel like it will be the perfect size for the 4 and 2 year old, plus all the stuff we travel with. Plus I wanted a comfortable daily driver for school runs, swim class and driving myself to work
It's funny that everyone is passionate about an inline six and RWD, but then criticizes the issues that come with that layout. Mazda is still not perfectly premium but very close. They also don't offer the very last tech, but the one you find are definitely working well.
I completely agree. Some of the reviews on this excellent vehicle are so unfair.
We need to see more reviews of this vehicle being compared to the more expensive RWD luxury vehicles it is trying to emulate.
Test drove this and the new Lexus TX since I was cross-shopping then. The Lexus TX four banger turbo engine sounded horrible. The turbo charged six in the Mazda sounds glorious. I agree with you Alex that the back is the ugliest side. But I disagree with you and think that the front and sides of the vehicle are gorgeous. Great proportions. Kudos to Mazda for caring about vehicle dynamics, Such as RWD, in-line 6, 50-50 weight distribution, wet-clutch, when all the competition cares about is interior size.
Yes, the back side view is not my favorite. In person it looks much better than on video/picture.
Yes Mazda still has that Zoom-Zoom attitude. Love it.
It’s amazing to see a company like Mazda with such limited resources, try so hard and produce such a great product like the CX90 and then on the other hand see Lexus, a company with all the money in the world and put in zero effort int here offerings/rebadging a Toyota. Really hope this sells well for Mazda, they deserve it
In Canada, the top of the line CX90 is cheaper than the Lexus TX by a significant difference. Take a look: Mazda is offering it at Canadian $66,503 (fully loaded Signature aka S Premium+) vs. Lexus TX for Canadian $83,535 (yes, the fully loaded TX gas model "Exec 6-passenger" top of the line Lexus is Canadian $83,535). Hybrid Lexus TX? Even more expensive. The Mazda CX90 seems like a bargain kn comparison. The only thing that is killing us in Canada right now is the insane interest rates to lease or finance.
Just ordered my CX90 and it’s getting here next Sunday. Excellent review Alex!
How do you like it so far? Thinking about getting one but it’s a bit pricey.
@@pete-bd5lj dude, I love it. If you can get a used one that was used a loaner at a dealer, that’s the way to go. I got a preferred plus trim, with the exterior and interior combo I wanted for $36,000. It had 3,800 miles on it, and it’s certified by Mazda. It’s an excellent value and I use it mainly as a 2 row, as I only have 2 little ones. I have used the 3rd row in a pinch, but just like all the reviews say, it’s tight back there. Other than that, it’s been in a road closing blizzard and it did great. It drives awesome and the base stereo is worlds better than my 2024 JLUR.
@@quick906 that’s a great price!
Thumbs up because it was clear the reviewer had fun driving the CX90
Patiently awaiting the cx70 launch… I’ve passed on many a used rdx and gv70 in favor of waiting for mazda. I will say the SH-awd on the mdx and rdx is beastmode when driving in the Rockies especially during winter. My wife’s mdx has been bulletproof since we bought it in 2011.
Same here. I want to compare the CX70/90. Driven the CX90 a few times. Owned a 2019 RDX SH-AWD for 2.5 years and racked up 63k miles.
I too am waiting for the CX70 launch. The question that I don't know has been answered is, how long is the 70? There were rumors in Q3 that it was going to be the same as the 90, but without the 3rd row seat. Then we started hearing that it would be a slightly longer CX60. Hopefully we see it soon. And hopefully it will have closer to 50 cu ft of cargo space behind the 2nd row (like the Honda Passport or VW Cross-whatever the 2-row is called) rather than 30 cu ft like most 2-row vehicles. If it's the latter, I'm not going to be very interested.
We finally got our answer about the CX70. Exactly the same size as the 90 but without a third row. Outside looks better. Clearly more of a direct attack at the X5. But kinda lazy by Mazda. Thoughts on the 70 from the group?
@@Ethanjbo135 yep I’ve made 100x posts on every RUclips channel how this is the biggest fail from Mazda in a decade. The entire product team involved with design and conception phase should be fired. This should be a gv70 / rdx competitor not a cx90 clone with badging. Simply made a cx90 trim then fold down the 3rd row..
@@aceofspades6667I was kind of hoping for a "coupe-ified" version of the CX-90 to preserve the cargo space from a floor space perspective, namely square feet (I don't load higher than the top of the 2nd row seat, so a swooped down rear wouldn't impact my cargo space.) But we have to remember that Mazda is a *SMALL* car company that just spent a fortune on this new RWD platform, and so it will likely be a while until we see another size vehicle. Just my guess.
If ultimate practicality is your goal, get a mini-van. My family will be looking stylish and traveling light with big smiles on our faces! 😁😁🐾🐾👍👍
None of the negative about this vehicle bothers me. I’m 5’7” & my wife is 5’6”. We are empty nesters with no grandkids. The 3rd row would stay folded down. Our Frenchie could stay in the back in his crate (wouldn’t let him get on that beautiful leather interior. 😂
Plenty of room for our taller friends in the second row. This thing is gorgeous inside and out in my opinion. Fun to drive and a great road trip vehicle for us. Perfect. Excellent review. This car is the sweet spot for us.
Maybe look at the cx 70 then?
Mazda's CX-90 is exactly what they promised: a Mazda alternative to a Lexus or an Acura 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I’m fairly certain Mazda couldn’t produce nearly enough of these to try to compete head on with the mass market competitors. That was never their goal. They’ve been selling over 5,000/month which equates to about 30-40% more than they ever managed with the CX-9. Pretty sure that’s about what their goal was.
We had a 2021 CX-9 and loved it, traded it in and bought the CX-90 and love it. Really enjoy the driving dynamics ride and handling, and really appreciate the wide tire width. Don’t find this tire width often, really grateful for that. Mazda is doing great! Have a Blessed Day!
Thanks for your feedback, we are looking at buying a larger family car and the cx9 & cx90 are on top of our list
Check if your engine bay is dripping oil. I just got a leaky front diff
@@ruffmadmanyaaaaaay-F******ck!!!
And how much debt you went into? It’s financial mistake if you financed it
275/45R21 … Mercedes,Audi,Range Rover all use this size … more common than you think?
7:11 I think Alex has a good point about having a more luxurious front seat, however I overall disagree on the need for 4 way lumbar and massaging seats. Mazda can’t price themselves out of the competition with less important features like that. The most important seat luxury feature in the past 10 years is not massaging seats, but instead Air Conditioned cooled seats. Hyundai, Kia, and Genesis SUVs have demonstrated that AC seats sell cars in hot climates. Massaging seats from german Audi/BMW cars are often just weak air bags, while massaging seats from japanese-american Acura/Lexus cars are stronger, they are also way too expensive options.
I bought this one 3 months ago and I love it
Glad to hear it! -Travis
All longitudinal-placed rear-wheel drive platform is “small” in cabin place. That is just the intrinsic nature of a premium platform. People need a “big” car looks for Lexus ES (not GS), TX (not GX), Atlas (not Tourage).
It takes Mazda to develop an Inline6 in this era.
Wait until you see them bring back the 2 stroke engine...and I'm not kidding
Alex, The big 'takeaway' here is that everything the CX90 gives in Sport, compared to other CUVs, it takes away in Utility. 😉
That’s pretty much the trade off with every Mazda. It’s what makes them different from almost everyone else.
Mazda hit an home run here!
Thank you Alex! What a great review, every opinion is explained, it is based upon something, very well written review.
Love my new Mazda CX-90. Much better than Honda Pilot or Toyota Highlander. 🎉
I’m just waiting for the hybrid cx-5 so I can finally pull the trigger
Alex, this is not a livery vehicle. The third row is for emergency or smaller children. Get over it.
That said, could not agree more with you that Mazda failed on the front seats regarding lumbar, massage and thigh extension.
We have rented one fora out a week on a trip with 3 kids. Overall great looks, feel of materials is nice, interior is nice and easy to use. It is just that this vehicle is for max 4 people. You look at it from outside and wonder where all the space went. We had to keep one of the 3rd row seats folded at all times to fit stuff. And fortunately none of my kids wear size 11 right now. So we made it work.
Alex, your reviews are always spot on… I found the interior of the higher trim level with the center console to be too small inside… Ended up buying a lower trim level with captains chairs for the roominess… I constantly bonk my head on the hatch when it is open 😂
adjust the height of the hatch maybe?
The CX-90 is a brilliant vehicle; great looking, RWD-basis, inline 6; all the BMWish traits that almost all manufacturers, including BMW, are abandoning. The problem is not that it is "small inside". The problem is the long term viability of the vehicle. I was ready to spring for one, after a very impressive test drive, and then I watched Amed's review (Care Care Nut). He adroitly points out that the engine is installed backwards, with all the valve train bits, including the high pressure pump, up against the firewall. To do any maintenance or repair work, the engine will have to come out. Really Mazda?! Complete non-starter for me. If I were Mazda I'd be holding my breathe for the first 3-5 years, as having to pull engines on large numbers of potential repairs is going to be very expensive. Another annoyance, for me, is that they do not offer a non-hybrid option, it's either a lite version or a full version. What about a *no, thank you* version. I have no desire to have an electric motor attached to my transmission, with battery and all the implied control modules and complexity. For what? Stop foisting hybrids on the public, please!
Mazda- turn the engine around so it can be serviced without removal, and offer a standard 8 or 10 speed AT with torque converter, and I'll buy one. Promise. And the public should do their part and reign in the EPA, and CA CAFE, bureaucrats that are forever ratcheting up the regulations, which force car companies to incorporate all this nonsense; hybrid, direct injection, cylinder deactivation, DPF in diesels. STOP IT! The regulations on air quality should have been locked in at mid 1990s level. When is the air "clean enough"? When we are all driving electric cars? Stop voting for Deep State bureaucrats!
I think this car is design is more for family with 4 or 5 kids in mind and another thing to remember is that by the time kids start to grow out of the 3rd row seat they are probably close or ready to applying for their P’s plate and be driving their own car. This is normal a normal cycle, when the kids grown up some parents will downgrade to a smaller car until their kids have children of their own and some grandparents Like myself will upgrade back to a large SUV to make room for prams, small bikes, little scooters 🛴 plus toys, baby bag, blankets and whatever else they want to take while staying over with their grandparents when their parents go away for a peaceful weekend away. Or maybe the grandparents want to take their grandkids on a holiday during school break to give their parents a break 😁
That's a beautiful interior and I love the brown leather!
You should ask Alex if his choice of color for his wardrobe is sponsored by Mazda
How does Mazda's lane centering compare with the others?
Glad to see to you know the Lexus TX sucks.
I said the Lexus tx sucked even before we saw it on June 8th. I kept saying it all over the internet yet everyone laughed. Alex even called me the internets biggest unapologetic Toyota hater.😂
Now he and all of you are just repeating what I’ve been saying yet none of you are giving me any credit for being right
That's exactly how all engines should sit in an engine bay (longitudinally), but I'm old school like that. All of my current vehicles have longitudinally mounted engines including the WRX, Tacoma, and Duster (obviously). All are manuals too. I was interested in the CX-90 for my mom since she was car shopping. The inline longitudinally mounted 6 cylinder engine caught my interest (if you're a true enthusiast, you already know how well balanced inline 6's are), but the pseudo-hybrid transmission lost my interest quickly. Bummer!
I have had my CX90 PHEV since September and everything you say is right on the money. For me I wanted a little more room than your average 2 row but I know I probably will use the 3rd row only from time to time. What you say about the handling and ride, the premium "feel", and the "not huge" interior space is pretty much as it is. If you are looking for the roomiest family hauler then look elsewhere but for a "bigger than 2 row" SUV with good handling and efficiency it's a vehicle worth looking at.
One point that often comes up in other reviews I've seen is the infotainment system. After owning it for a while it turns out that I actually prefer rotating wheel controller that Mazda uses for their infotainment system over the touch screen that I had in my previous vehicle. I know we are all used to our touch screen phones but I find the infotainment system's wheel controller is a lot less distracting than a touch screen when driving. It takes some getting used to and certainly when you first jump into it (as car reviewers do on a daily basis) you wonder how the heck does this work, but longer term I think it is a better system. Perhaps I'm just an oddball.
better than Acura that tries too hard to look like a rear wheel drive car
How's the i-stop function? i don't like the stop and start when i rented a car. Hope this one goes smoothly or it can be turned off.
Everybody looking at my tight pants, tight pants, I got my tight pants on🤪
34:40 Uhh where did that liquid in the hatch come from?
Thank you for your review, Alex, but I do not agree with your critical position. Mazda still has a lot of features to approve, but I'd be surprised if you showed me such amazing progress between two next generation models at Toyota/Honda/VW/Mercedes. Small auto company made a huge spet ahead in comparasing with autogiant.
Its tail looks ugly and has similar humpback feel as 2015 CR-V
Thank you for adding the trim level prices but you need to bring back the features of each trim as well.
Here in Canada, I would go for the Mazda CX-90 2024 in the base trim (GS) as I don't need all the BELLS AND WHISTLES or maybe just wait for the CX-70 as I don't really need a 3rd row. 😁
I wish they allowed a 7 seat config in the upper config
They should have just kept the exterior look like the CX-9, because that thing really hasn’t aged. It’s a shame about the packaging, too. Big on the outside, small on the inside.
Very detailed review. Thanks I do wish MAZDA had got the CX-90 styling as good as the did on my 2019 CX-5 Grand Touring Reserve
(2.5 L. turbo, AWD). If I get the Premium S version it will be in 2025. But that may precipitate a divorce since my wife thinks the upscale CX-5 "... is all you need."
The plug in is the one to get. The transmission works a lot better with it
Why phev is the worst of both worlds
@@brooklyn560It’s faster than the Turbo S and it uses 0 gas around town. It’s literally the best of both worlds.
PHEV is smoother power train than Inline 6 as of early 2024 reviews. That is helping a vehicle with family duties.
@@DM72513 what about after you run through the ev battery? What the acceleration and performance once the hybrid kicks in? Also doesn’t the efficiency of the hybrid take a hit after the battery dies? Since you have to carry around everything needed for an ev to go? Seems like you get way better efficiency if you just go straight ev or hybrid. I mean if you really only drive enough to get by on the 20-30 miles of a PHEV ev mode then you might as well get an ev and just charge up once a week.
How would you compare the cx90 vs Hyundai palisade? Which one would you buy from those vehicles?
Great review, spot on with your commentary.. i have the PHEV version, and so far very good but for a few issues. I also hasa CX-9, and I think it had a bit more room...
I’d put this and the gv80 as the best Asian luxury suvs
GV80 is overpriced, ~$15k more than this
Mazda should revive the Efini brand, similar to how Hyundai established Genesis to separate their focus on different models.... If they had the resources 🙁
Alex, thanks for your interesting test drive and comparisons. Are you planning to test drive Lexus TX (350, 500h, etc) any time soon?? Would be really interesting to hear whether there is any difference in the ride comfort of different versions of TX and in comparison to the Grand Highlander as well.. Happy New Year and best seasonal greetings!
Alex was very underwhelmed with the TX in his first drive. I highly doubt that him driving the 350 or 500h again will change his mind.
He said the 350 is as slow as a Nissan rogue at over 8 seconds 0-60. The 500h is still slow at 0-60 of 6.3 seconds and that hybrid max system is not terribly smooth. He noticed the same thing in the grand highlander
We drove the TX briefly but we'll do our best to get our hands on it for more thorough review as soon as we can! -Travis
@@naveenthemachinenot you putting words into his mouth 😂
@@alwaysiyi272 he didn’t explicitly say he was underwhelmed. I could tell by his facial expressions that he wasn’t that impressed
@@naveenthemachine are you kidding me right now?, facial expressions?, are you some sort of face reader? 😂. You’re hilarious dude
Great vehicle for car lovers. Have to buy it.
nobody cares about handling and performance for a 3 row family hauler so the main point of this mazda is pointless. If you want a sporty grocery soccer mobile then your priorities are delusional.
When you're ready to replace your Durango SRT 392,only to realize that the saying "there's no replacement for displacement," doesn't just apply to the engine.
Alex’s Durango SRT has a bigger engine and it’s also significantly faster than the cx90
This wouldn't tow the same and that's one of the main uses for the Durango. -Travis
Oh yeah, too small and. No storage, either. Yes , it looks nice, but for the price, not enough utility. Not much seat bolster. That vent sticking out is a dumb idea
No way this is better looking than MDX ; the real slope reminds me of the tragic 2013 Honda CRV rear V
Dang I just realized the Honda Pilot’s 3rd row headroom (39.3”) is more than the 2nd row headroom for the CX-90 (38.4”). Why the difference here vs Mazda’s 39.3” measurement?
Alex, apologies if I missed it in the review, but can you comment on the quickness of the steering and how that feels? I've heard that Mazda gives the CX-90 a slower ratio to allow for a more adjustable feel in corners. Any thoughts on that?
It's a little quicker feeling than average, but it's designed to be similar to the segment. So don't expect it to feel like a lotus or anything.
zoom zoom
Do the PHEV one next @alexonautos
If only we could get our hands on every car we wanted to review... -Travis
Mazda should bring minivans
They did kind of offer one decades ago. The mazda5
And the old Mazda mpv
@@naveenthemachine yeah..... Should have kept it ! Cheaper than huge minivans.... And more useful than SuV
I'd love to see another Mazda 5 but I know I'm in the minority on that one. -Travis
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Amen to that ! But now everyone wants bigger and bigger.... Then complain about fuel economy 😆 Europe is way more advanced than us.... Small is beautiful and useful
Mazda has stated that they are done with making minivans, they said that they are using SUVs to be their people movers going forward.
Amazing video Alex.
👍 well done. It looked like you were having fun in a Miata 😊
I was just at my local Mazda dealership yesterday for a routine service on our CX-5. It looked like there were a million CX-90's on the lot out front and around back in every color available. I asked a sales guy how they were selling so far, and the look he gave me was one of concern. They certainly look good (overall) feel premium compared to the mainstream competition and having driven various Mazda's now for 17 years I'm sure the driving dynamics are a standout in the segment along with the new powertrain options. I think most shoppers are looking for a 3-row family vehicle are looking for more interior volume, more passenger room in the third row and more overall cargo space, i.e., Toyota Grand Highlander, Kia Telluride etc. Form and function over style and performance. It's not a minivan alternative nor is it going to sway BMW x5/x7 shoppers. Personally, I think they kind of missed the mark on this one, but I wish them well!
Isn't the x5 a top seller? Ive never heard anyone say thats because its so roomy! Space is not the only reason people buy an SUV. There is a matrix full of reasons, some things cant even be explained.logically. And so far Mazda is selling twice as many 90s than 9s. Give them a couple years and that number will double
It's a beautiful car no doubt, but you can't look at it as a Pilot, Atlas, Pathfinder, Highlander, etc., competitor. It's a 4-5 passenger vehicle with an emergency 3rd row, that's it. Think of it as a X5 with a 3rd row for a small child in a pinch. It's just too small to be considered as a viable option if you need all 3 rows. Also, Mazda just took a reduction on MSRPs realizing that $60K for the top trim is a tall ask.
Totally get making it a sportier suv, but why Mazda thought making a car large on the outside, but small on the inside was a good idea is beyond me. Too cramped and visibility is poor. Really wanted to like it.
Inline 6 with turbo and @ 80% powering rearwheels. No debating, no guessing, while you got an inline 6 with turbo just a reversals what government set out for combustion obsolete.
If the MDX has inline 6 with turbo, then there is no way the CX-90 would stance a chance.
Anytime I hear that a noise level is comparable to the MDX, I eliminate that vehicle as an option. The MDX is anything but quiet.
News flash ! The PHEV is faster than the Turbo S. Car and Driver did formal testing on all CX 90 power trains. CX 90 PHEV 0-60 is 5.9 seconds. The Turbo S was 6.2. The difference is the big 177hp/199 tq electric motor. It is waay smoother and capable than the 18hp 48volt mild hybrid.😳😎. Best of both world baby.Their testing is more reliable and regimented than any RUclipsrs " Butt dyno".
Being a rwd based platform is what you want. Better handling, performance, more robust drivetrain.
The 3rd row legroom sucks...practically puts the feet on the railing of the 'pushed' up 2nd row. Good only for babies honestly..there is literally no carpet space in 3rd row ..that should tell you everything.
As much as I am enjoying my CX-5, the “90” is too car much for me. I’m waiting for the “70” as I’m sure it will have similar characteristics. Perhaps like the Volkswagen Atlas/Atlas Cross Sport? BTW, Alex, it looks like you’ve trimmed up a bit!
I have the the cx90 phev premium i love it so far its a decent family hauler we rarely use the third maybe a few times a year. Its quick and fun for a mama who loves cars . i love the ride compared to its competitors which i drove as well. So far its a hit! I get so many compliments on it and double takes when I’m driving.
Big SUVs are such a waste of space. Could've been so much smaller externally if it was a minivan, for the same interior space.
Yeah obviously this replaces the CX7.
CX60 is the only one that introduce a new category.
Has an aggressive price tag as well.. out of my price range at nearly $90K in Australia.
Good on paper, bad in practice.
Frustrating that you can’t get bench middle row seats in top trim, only captain chairs. 🙄
Pretty sure the engine noise is fake. Pump into the cabin through the sound speakers. Really sad the reviewer missed that.
@23:18 - Pop & crackle tune?
THAT CAR IS SEXY AF!!
Absolutely stellar review and information breakdown. Thanks for sharing it.
The interior is definitely better than the list of competitors but the exterior, really? It's nicer than the MDX? No way
Exterior styling:
MDX
CX90
Grand Highlander
TX
The vehicle is greater as a whole than sum of its parts. MDX dual screen center stack and piano black fingerprint magnet is a blocker for anyone looking for a great interior… which you will face most times driving the car…
For some shoppers you wouldn't be able to but people in the 3rd row and a stroller behind them the trunk will not close.
3rd row are not made for adults at all. Get a Cx90. You will not regret it
Did Alex lose weight or something? I can barely see him now 😂
How do you compare this third row with the 2023 CX9?