If you're trying to learn how to render SKIN smoothly, I got you covered with my professional skin painting tutorial! ruclips.net/video/fzdI-V26o6Y/видео.html Need ideas on how to START a piece?! ruclips.net/video/wHmgnuEIlUg/видео.html
yesterday I started my first painting without a line art inspired by you. It's not the best I made but I am honestly so proud of how it looks because I can see my self using this process, definitely faster than the old lineart to colour to rendering process. Thanks for being my inspiration gamma. Also I am painting with the hard round brush and it's amazing
i agree with you. sometime line art take a lot of time, but it's still a good level. In my opinion, i prefer painting much more, painting a object from imagination is much easy than the line one.
I usually stay on one layer for a LONG time just painting, color picking, blending, etc. But that tends to make even people on my level a bit uncomfortable because they've gotten fast in their own ways and the 1 layer sketch is a little rare
I'm just starting my Bachelors in Animation and Game Design, majoring in 2D Animation and Production Art. Something my art teacher told me, that his teacher told him, was to work from 50% grey and then work in halves from there. No real lineart, just adding the darkest darks and lightest lights where lighting and shadows hit. And honestly it saved a lot of time where i'd spend hours, days even, looking at my shading and going "Why can I not get this to look how I want it". You have a fantastic style, one that I aim to achieve similarly with enough practice, so thank you for these videos!
It's so nice to find someone showing a process closer to my own. I don't enjoy using lines and they make less sense to me when I'm trying to render. I still have a lot to learn but your process makes more sense than people that use lineart.
Honestly ever since you mentioned it once, that line art is not necessary (i think it was in the overcoming art block video) my progression skyrocketed and i can draw quicker than ever. Only lersonal issue is that i kinda can't get a clean painting done but besides that you helped me a lot with your videos ^^ Cheers man!
My art professor said that the most difficult thing to do with art is "trying new things". Everybody has a distinct art phase; whether you choose to change or not is up to you. No half-assing it, no more faded sketching-- you need to move on lol-- and that's difficult for a lot of people.
God damn, i'm so happy i am not the only crazy person who always liked actually painting and defining th 3d forms with rendering more than doing lineart.
Love your work brother!! Would you be able to make a tutorial on mountains. Been working on scenery and landscapes. Would like to know your process on how you go about painting mountains and landscapes!!
Recently I decided to try to make something without lines and then I realised indeed how much time this takes. It wasn’t that good as I wished. But then after that I made another drawing using lines only when it was necessary (and no, I didn’t start with them, quite the opposite). After I finished it I learned that line art isn’t good or bad. We must learn when to use it, rather than how.
I actually recently shifted from lineart to close to a full render, and it's genuinely so much faster and easier for me! Painting over the lineart layer really helps and you can really do so much more in my experience than if you were to just be *under* the lineart layer. Thanks a lot though Gamma your tutorials in the past have been helpful and fun! Great video again
Thank you for this video, I’ve been fighting between lineart and just render for awhile now. Usually ill just do a quick sketch of what i think of and use a couple refs, but i dont have the line art as its own layer, ill shade/render on the same line art layer blending the lines i dont want/ need towards the end. Then ill put the colors under that layer since its already done via greyscale. Seeing this helps a lot with new ways to think about when drawing/painting a piece. Love your videos.
I've been trying to start out with shapes and then render into forms for a while. It's the style that I first wanted to do but there's basically no guides on how to practice this specific rendering technique for a beginner. I understand it's an advanced technique, or more so than lines, but it's the technique that got me interested in painting in the first place. Stuff like WLOP, Paintable, and BoroCG have videos that show this style and the last two have tutorials; but their teaching style doesn't mesh with me. Your's does. I know you've got a trove of ideas and such to get to, but maybe one day cover this sketchless process in greater detail? Hell, I'd pay for a full course on this at this point. It's what I've wanted to do, the finished product is just so different than with line art, and I feel like I've wasted time trying to learn linework just for me to do everything in my power to hide it in the final product. I guess my biggest hang-up is complex forms without sketching lines, sort of like the soldier you had for an example. How do you manage to keep all of the forms separate? Do you start with a solid grey color and then add light and shadow to forms? Or do you use different values from the get go? What does that look like? How do you manage to go from grayscale to color? I currently use Color layers in CSP, but maybe that's not the best way. Is this a technique that requires knowledge in all aspects of the subject you're drawing and that you're basically just mentally overlaying line and this isn't something I should pursue two years in? Am I overthinking it and should just draw the rest of the Owl? Am I talking to myself in a RUclips comment section? Alright, back to my 40th eye study this week.
Everybody does these steps a little differently and we can often figure ours out by learning how others do it and breaking off what works, so: I tend to start with the hard round brush, set it to a dark color or black gently press for mid opacity and find the silhouette I'm kind of going for. The dark color adds dark values, and when you erase it with a lighter canvas below it lightens the values. Soon you'll have a rough form (like the original soldier form) then you color pick and start to mold the image like clay, painting lighter values where the light hits and darker values where there's shade etc.
Amazing demonstration of why to just paint forms instead of doing line art. Looking at that gap you created in the armour with 2 simple strokes eliminated minutes of deliberation and line work! Question though, I'm a sucker for lineart and love to see that phase where one can present a piece in lineart with 2 to 3 values. Would you say that painting forms consistently helps improving lineart should you ever decide to go back to that for whatever reason? 😃
I've gotten more and more comfortable with skipping the sketch phase, but one of the issues I run into when I'm "pushing values around" is I end up with a muddy mess. Then I get frustrated and rage quit. 😅 Any advice on that front?
ALWAYS duplicate the layer! So no matter how far you get, you can always look back from where you started to correct your course OR have a start-over point if necessary.
I’ve been really wanting to try out some painting and rendering styles lately because I’m normally doing full line art. This video has given me some motivation to try it out and experiment!
niceeeeeeee up to lineart is the easy part for me. after it comes the hardest part. colors.... i drawing anime style so selecting shadow colors for each part is a pain. its takes me quite a few time to select proper colors i want to try mixing both techniques
I started with drawing anime and manga and evolved to my current styles and processes so as someone who's gone down your current road, it just takes leaving the comfort zone a LIIITTLE bit and you'll be fine!
I love all your videos and I'm definitely gonna try going for rendering straight out to see how it goes; I'd also love if we get a video about how you paint reflected light like the little light the faintly illuminate part of the shadows (refracted light?) especially how to make it look correct with colour transitions
I can do full lineless render, but learning how to do that actually helped me how to combine it with lineart, they're not really mutually exclusive to me anymore I can't really bring to fully ditch it coming from a trad background with technical pens; inking effects and translucent lines just look really cool, and I really like stuff like comics, art nouveau etc.
Great stuff man! I’ve been sketching with forms, shapes, and values now for over a year, and I don’t think I’ll ever be able to go back! It’s just so much more fluid and fast. You had a video you put out a few months ago on commissions… do you plan on finishing that anytime soon? My daughter and I are both really interested in doing that and would love some guidance. I for one would be willing to pay for content like that. So maybe a patreon thing? I dunno. Just a thought. Thanks again for the time you take to produce these vids! They really help.
Funny thing is I can't actually do really clean line art. I just skipped to shading around said line art before eventually skipping line art entirely. I feel more in control just manipulating the canvas.
Making lineart is basically only usefull when it's going to be visible and a part of the finished rendered piece. Otherwise it'll work quite well to just go from rough sketch to painting shapes. Or even skip the sketch stage and go straight to painting. but that's like... advanced stuff.
I really love your art. And how you go about making art. I really want to do this but I seem to have a mental blockage that restricts me from understanding on how to do it. I tried the charcoal way with big strokes and all, but it feels that I am doing it all the wrong way. If you can help me out here I would really appreciate it. Thanks
I agree the lineart is a waste of time. I have noticed same thing with traditional drawing. It is more importaint in watercolor but other mediums not so much.
can you make a tutorial on lineart alone? I have found it extremely confusing and i've seen some people make a super rough sketch first then the lineart on top of it, but I never really understood how they do that especially for hair since the base is so messy, i dont get how they figure out the lines (mainly talking about anime-ish characters)
Well for making line art, to hone an image you make a rough scribble in the shape you think, then make a new layer and drop the opacity of the previous layer then make a tighter scribble. Do this enough times and you'll have clean lineart. You don't need to only make one scribble then jump straight to clean lines. You can make scribble layer after scribble layer and as long as it gets tighter, eventually you'll end up with clean lines
@@Gammatrap well that method will take a really long time and for something like anime characters, kinda not worth it and when i try to do final line art as step 2, it ends up being so difficult lol do you also suggest use of pen tool instead of high smoothing brush for lines?
''involves just a little bit of work and some knowledge on values, but aside from that it's pretty simple'' U wot m8? Straight up going from lines to rendering is NOT simple, let alone not starting with lines at all. Please get back down to earth. lol
If you're trying to learn how to render SKIN smoothly, I got you covered with my professional skin painting tutorial! ruclips.net/video/fzdI-V26o6Y/видео.html
Need ideas on how to START a piece?! ruclips.net/video/wHmgnuEIlUg/видео.html
yesterday I started my first painting without a line art inspired by you. It's not the best I made but I am honestly so proud of how it looks because I can see my self using this process, definitely faster than the old lineart to colour to rendering process. Thanks for being my inspiration gamma. Also I am painting with the hard round brush and it's amazing
YES! All shall know the power of the hard round brush! NO FEAR!
Really love all your tutorials, you explain your process so it's easy to understand while what you are doing might be on the advanced side.
That's definitely the goal! You greatest curse is "you don't know what you don't know" so I try to teach while I teach, if that makes sense.
i agree with you. sometime line art take a lot of time, but it's still a good level. In my opinion, i prefer painting much more, painting a object from imagination is much easy than the line one.
I usually stay on one layer for a LONG time just painting, color picking, blending, etc. But that tends to make even people on my level a bit uncomfortable because they've gotten fast in their own ways and the 1 layer sketch is a little rare
I'm just starting my Bachelors in Animation and Game Design, majoring in 2D Animation and Production Art. Something my art teacher told me, that his teacher told him, was to work from 50% grey and then work in halves from there.
No real lineart, just adding the darkest darks and lightest lights where lighting and shadows hit. And honestly it saved a lot of time where i'd spend hours, days even, looking at my shading and going "Why can I not get this to look how I want it".
You have a fantastic style, one that I aim to achieve similarly with enough practice, so thank you for these videos!
I’ve definitely stumbled on a gem. Your channel is amazingly helpful. Proud to be a new follower! 😊
It's so nice to find someone showing a process closer to my own. I don't enjoy using lines and they make less sense to me when I'm trying to render. I still have a lot to learn but your process makes more sense than people that use lineart.
Honestly ever since you mentioned it once, that line art is not necessary (i think it was in the overcoming art block video) my progression skyrocketed and i can draw quicker than ever. Only lersonal issue is that i kinda can't get a clean painting done but besides that you helped me a lot with your videos ^^ Cheers man!
My art professor said that the most difficult thing to do with art is "trying new things". Everybody has a distinct art phase; whether you choose to change or not is up to you. No half-assing it, no more faded sketching-- you need to move on lol-- and that's difficult for a lot of people.
You have been a huge inspiration and a souce of learning, thanks for making these!
My pleasure! I'm glad you like them!
Been searching for a video like this for years and by far, yours is the only that made sense to me
Glad to help then!
Thank you for your videos, they're really great !
God damn, i'm so happy i am not the only crazy person who always liked actually painting and defining th 3d forms with rendering more than doing lineart.
You're not alone 😂
Love your work brother!! Would you be able to make a tutorial on mountains. Been working on scenery and landscapes. Would like to know your process on how you go about painting mountains and landscapes!!
Awesome presentation 🦋🌻Melinda
Recently I decided to try to make something without lines and then I realised indeed how much time this takes. It wasn’t that good as I wished. But then after that I made another drawing using lines only when it was necessary (and no, I didn’t start with them, quite the opposite). After I finished it I learned that line art isn’t good or bad. We must learn when to use it, rather than how.
I actually recently shifted from lineart to close to a full render, and it's genuinely so much faster and easier for me! Painting over the lineart layer really helps and you can really do so much more in my experience than if you were to just be *under* the lineart layer. Thanks a lot though Gamma your tutorials in the past have been helpful and fun! Great video again
Thank you for this video, I’ve been fighting between lineart and just render for awhile now. Usually ill just do a quick sketch of what i think of and use a couple refs, but i dont have the line art as its own layer, ill shade/render on the same line art layer blending the lines i dont want/ need towards the end. Then ill put the colors under that layer since its already done via greyscale. Seeing this helps a lot with new ways to think about when drawing/painting a piece. Love your videos.
My pleasure bud!
I've been trying to start out with shapes and then render into forms for a while. It's the style that I first wanted to do but there's basically no guides on how to practice this specific rendering technique for a beginner. I understand it's an advanced technique, or more so than lines, but it's the technique that got me interested in painting in the first place. Stuff like WLOP, Paintable, and BoroCG have videos that show this style and the last two have tutorials; but their teaching style doesn't mesh with me. Your's does. I know you've got a trove of ideas and such to get to, but maybe one day cover this sketchless process in greater detail? Hell, I'd pay for a full course on this at this point. It's what I've wanted to do, the finished product is just so different than with line art, and I feel like I've wasted time trying to learn linework just for me to do everything in my power to hide it in the final product.
I guess my biggest hang-up is complex forms without sketching lines, sort of like the soldier you had for an example. How do you manage to keep all of the forms separate? Do you start with a solid grey color and then add light and shadow to forms? Or do you use different values from the get go? What does that look like? How do you manage to go from grayscale to color? I currently use Color layers in CSP, but maybe that's not the best way. Is this a technique that requires knowledge in all aspects of the subject you're drawing and that you're basically just mentally overlaying line and this isn't something I should pursue two years in? Am I overthinking it and should just draw the rest of the Owl? Am I talking to myself in a RUclips comment section? Alright, back to my 40th eye study this week.
Everybody does these steps a little differently and we can often figure ours out by learning how others do it and breaking off what works, so:
I tend to start with the hard round brush, set it to a dark color or black gently press for mid opacity and find the silhouette I'm kind of going for. The dark color adds dark values, and when you erase it with a lighter canvas below it lightens the values. Soon you'll have a rough form (like the original soldier form) then you color pick and start to mold the image like clay, painting lighter values where the light hits and darker values where there's shade etc.
Amazing demonstration of why to just paint forms instead of doing line art. Looking at that gap you created in the armour with 2 simple strokes eliminated minutes of deliberation and line work!
Question though, I'm a sucker for lineart and love to see that phase where one can present a piece in lineart with 2 to 3 values. Would you say that painting forms consistently helps improving lineart should you ever decide to go back to that for whatever reason? 😃
I've gotten more and more comfortable with skipping the sketch phase, but one of the issues I run into when I'm "pushing values around" is I end up with a muddy mess. Then I get frustrated and rage quit. 😅 Any advice on that front?
ALWAYS duplicate the layer! So no matter how far you get, you can always look back from where you started to correct your course OR have a start-over point if necessary.
I’ve been really wanting to try out some painting and rendering styles lately because I’m normally doing full line art. This video has given me some motivation to try it out and experiment!
very nice tutorial vedio
No fear method? 😬 sounds scary
Thank you !!!!
niceeeeeeee
up to lineart is the easy part for me. after it comes the hardest part. colors....
i drawing anime style so selecting shadow colors for each part is a pain.
its takes me quite a few time to select proper colors
i want to try mixing both techniques
I started with drawing anime and manga and evolved to my current styles and processes so as someone who's gone down your current road, it just takes leaving the comfort zone a LIIITTLE bit and you'll be fine!
I love all your videos and I'm definitely gonna try going for rendering straight out to see how it goes; I'd also love if we get a video about how you paint reflected light like the little light the faintly illuminate part of the shadows (refracted light?) especially how to make it look correct with colour transitions
your videos is respectful
I can do full lineless render, but learning how to do that actually helped me how to combine it with lineart, they're not really mutually exclusive to me anymore
I can't really bring to fully ditch it coming from a trad background with technical pens; inking effects and translucent lines just look really cool, and I really like stuff like comics, art nouveau etc.
Great stuff man! I’ve been sketching with forms, shapes, and values now for over a year, and I don’t think I’ll ever be able to go back! It’s just so much more fluid and fast.
You had a video you put out a few months ago on commissions… do you plan on finishing that anytime soon? My daughter and I are both really interested in doing that and would love some guidance. I for one would be willing to pay for content like that. So maybe a patreon thing? I dunno. Just a thought.
Thanks again for the time you take to produce these vids! They really help.
Funny thing is I can't actually do really clean line art. I just skipped to shading around said line art before eventually skipping line art entirely. I feel more in control just manipulating the canvas.
Making lineart is basically only usefull when it's going to be visible and a part of the finished rendered piece. Otherwise it'll work quite well to just go from rough sketch to painting shapes. Or even skip the sketch stage and go straight to painting. but that's like... advanced stuff.
I really love your art. And how you go about making art.
I really want to do this but I seem to have a mental blockage that restricts me from understanding on how to do it.
I tried the charcoal way with big strokes and all, but it feels that I am doing it all the wrong way.
If you can help me out here I would really appreciate it.
Thanks
I agree the lineart is a waste of time. I have noticed same thing with traditional drawing. It is more importaint in watercolor but other mediums not so much.
Help me understand this, these methods you suggest, do you use a mouse or a pen to do these?
can you make a tutorial on lineart alone? I have found it extremely confusing and i've seen some people make a super rough sketch first then the lineart on top of it, but I never really understood how they do that
especially for hair since the base is so messy, i dont get how they figure out the lines
(mainly talking about anime-ish characters)
Well for making line art, to hone an image you make a rough scribble in the shape you think, then make a new layer and drop the opacity of the previous layer then make a tighter scribble. Do this enough times and you'll have clean lineart. You don't need to only make one scribble then jump straight to clean lines. You can make scribble layer after scribble layer and as long as it gets tighter, eventually you'll end up with clean lines
@@Gammatrap well that method will take a really long time and for something like anime characters, kinda not worth it
and when i try to do final line art as step 2, it ends up being so difficult lol
do you also suggest use of pen tool instead of high smoothing brush for lines?
Oh the fastest way for clean lines is absolutely to do it right the first time, but that comes with years of practice 🤣 no need to rush
@@Gammatrap oh lol i see
ive been thinking of learning oil painting, do you think that would help with digital art too?
Okay, I've decided I'll never do lineart again.
"CryTa"
''involves just a little bit of work and some knowledge on values, but aside from that it's pretty simple''
U wot m8?
Straight up going from lines to rendering is NOT simple, let alone not starting with lines at all.
Please get back down to earth. lol