It's not my job to tell you what to do or what to like. My job as a teacher is only to encourage growth. At it's current iteration, Ai is a very regressive tool that is detrimental to your growth as an artist. And for those of you who just wanted this humble industry professional's point of view on the topic, I hope the insight was at least entertaining if not informative.
I basically just stared at the background because it looks soo good. Your opinion on AI creations has inspired me quite a bit. There is still a long way to go for AI and the way the developers of AI do things can be considered immoral in the least. I am not an artist, so I just appreciate good looking images and sometimes AI (like Midjourney) has created stuff that I can only call impressive. Since I am no professional, these AI images are enough for me as pc background, but I also value art from real artists. Stay strong and enjoy your job, I really like the art that you create. AI won't get you anytime soon.
it will come to a step where those AI servers are going to be attacked , through massive DOS attacks or even physically , because they are playing on the nerves of millions of artists around the world , and sooner or later they will trigger some war to happen , and it wont be good for those companies. humans can become very emotional over what they own and what they create , and if someone stole that from them it will become a dirty situation and if they want a mid solution , it would be at least to split the revenue with the artists they use their art as material , king of the system youtube use with music , if you use a copyrighted song they allow it on your channel but some of the Ads revenues goes to the artist who produced the song.
The thing is, artists arent the same people as hackers. and the groups that would need to employ, likely support AI Art. Lets put away the weapons and have a reasonable discussion.
Non artists completely misunderstand Art as ONLY being the end product. Artists know it’s the process that makes art inspiring, the problem solving, the creative epiphanies.
What we need to consider is that the technology is always progressing, so it's very much possible that in a few years a lot of artists will lose their job. The same goes for many other jobs actually. Chatgpt can write simple code in a manner of seconds, and the code is functional (for the most part). You can also use ai to write articles or maybe even help you write books. We should probably ask ourselves if we want to live in a future, in which humans are gradually being replaced with AI.
I know, this is some kind of distopian sh.t This planet isn't perfect and not suppose to be, only death is perfect and absolute. We humans always have to balance work and life, good and bad. Technology is good and bad at the same time depends who is using it and what for purpose. For example I am trying to buy Ipad to practice didgital drawing for years but I can't afford it so what good does technology makes for me if I can't afford it. 🤷♀️ Or Bugatti car is purest technology who can use it 1% or nobody at all because there are no roads to drive them.
@@moonlightgator If the public wants only Bugatti's, and nothing more, then the roads will be built. If people want only gourmet food, then McDonals will go out of business. If people want only real art, Ai may be gone.
Whats worst is theyre using AI to enter art contest and they dont just submit one they submit alot over shadowing real artists work, can you make a video about artstreet medibang contest?
8:55: glad you brought up the court cases here. Just wanna add that this is a good thing for both artists and ai users, because it will settle the restrictions of ai and protect artists. Ai art in its current form is very dangerous for artists because it can spit out work identifiable to the work it was trained on. Calling back on the samdoesart situation, there was a competition on who was able to make work identical to Sam's work and before someome says "yeah well art styles cannot be copyrighted" yes that true, but the difference between a human and ai learning a artsyle is that the artist has limitations while the ai doesn't. Ai can spit out multiple art works with exact detail, and this is bad for the artist because if your work can be mass produced that means the original creator will be lost in the ocean of content which could effect his lively hood since he relys on his artwork(keep in mid the court case isnt all just about copyright but also to discuss ethics). For him not to get any compensation is UNETHICAL and unfair. But if the court can come to a fair decision, ai can have similar to dance diffusion a range of copyright free imagery to train on and artists work won't ba massed produced.
Even while AI art still isn't indistinguishable from human made art (for now!), don't you think that many companies would still actually prefer somewhat lower quality images made by AI if it means saving a few bucks paying for an artist? There's a lot of big, soulless corporations out there that couldn't care less about art itself and care more about quantity, efficiency and quick cash grabs. And another thing, AI can also be used to complete incomplete artworks, you can literally draw a stick figure and it will do the rest for you. You can color your black/white art with AI. AI art is going to be everywhere sooner than you think, even before it breaks its current limitations, and it's going to be impossible to detect or enforce. We're approaching a world where all art will under a question mark if it was made by a hardworking human or in two seconds by an advanced AI. How exactly one would prevent AI art from being copyrighted? The unfortunate truth is that it is unstoppable and the Pandora's box is already open. Never underestimate the terrifying capabilities of technology.
Regulations is also a thing that will be put in place, and while it might not stop the AI's it will force a more limited model or in the house types to be the standard. And people who are caught doing the unethical versions still, will be fined. Just like when people torrent stuff today. Companies don't want to get fined for breaking the law so I would not be too worried. As an art director I see no reason to go for AI's instead of paying artists, AI's while they do look impressive cannot create an imagine exactly as you want it to be, as it is basically just doing a calculation based on acceptance rate for your specific prompts. And that is without even consider the current unethical aspect of it. When you say it can finish a drawing, it does not really finish it, it take a bunch of guesses and make a character. But it is likely far from what you had imagined the character to be. So for me, who is a perfectionist that want to be able to taunt my artist with specific and minor edits, well AI is useless. And I'm far from the only art director who feels that way.
In regards to the questioning part.. you can very easily prove you did it yourself, by just posting different layers beside your full art work.. I don't think AI art will ever be convincingly separable in layers, like human made art is, it's all generated together as far as my knowledge, theres not a structural process that makes sense from a human standpoint
The results are always getting better. The tools are going to get easier. Most companies don't have the best artists in the world at their disposal. They might be safe. But most of us aren't the best
i am an artist and I did the thing you mentioned at like 5 minutes. I spend like an hour promting some things together and realized "this is exactly what I DONT want" there was garbage only. it was easy to search up references of the things i wanted to do and it was way more productive and only took me 30 minutes
I think the biggest problem with extreme changes in human society like this, is that they are gradual and sneaky. I think that if AI art just totally happened overnight, people would be sceptical and it would probably die fast. But now it's a slow progression of accepting it as a part of everyday life... slowly... but surely accepting it.
For artists who are worried like I once was until I inhaled a copius amount of copium; I don't think there's a need to worry. Sure, commision art and logo design will be completely taken over Ai but there's one field the AI can't dominate without the asssistance of real experienced artist. And thats story-based art. AI could generate pretty pictures, yes that's true. But that's all it can do, nothing more. When used for a project that requires a great understanding of context behind the art and its design elements, it falls off and ultiumately just becomes a tool to do the tedious stuff no artist wants to do. You think AI could think the same way Rinotuna does? Or replicate the narrative expertise of Makoto Shinkai? Marc Brunet does a lot of illustrations that tells a narrative that I don't think a normal person can make without experience. Doing narrative-based art and making it look and feel good is something only an artist can do. Artists will just simply move on to a more expressionist approach, a new art movement in the modern days. Lets look at a much brighter side of AI and the possibilities of the future: -first, companies will start popping up after seeing the potential of AI art -The art scene will be completely saturated by AI art and people will get tired of it -Art communities that embrace AI art will start doing projects -They realize that talented artist are still needed to judge and control the AI and the decision making of the project. -There will be a huge art boom and demand for art is sky rocket -More companies will pop up and demand for artists will increase -There will be no more artists working on commisions as they will start working on companies that'll give them a more stable income (and commission work will be taken by AI and used by non-artists) -Non-artists will still not get hired and won't be able to work on art projects as they have no knowledge regarding the subject At this point, we'll enter the era of art becoming a mainstream profession. Everyone can make art but not everyone can work without proper training. -Companies like Dreamworks, Pixar or Disney will no longer have a complete monopoly on western animation as more animation companie will appear as a result of the art boom -Getting into an animtion company will be much much easier -As a result, we will have SO MUCH more art! -Animation quality will improve dratically Imagine if every anime you've ever watched is in the same level as ufotable, that'll be insane! For so long, art quality has been stagnant and the amount of animated movies with amazing animation is pretty limited. Now artists will have a safe place where they have a steady income, and people will have so much more quality content to watch. So join me to the path of animation! And utilize AI art to its full potential while honing our skills!
Just FYI, I didn't read your whole argument, because I just wanted to comment on what you said about logo design: I think you may not understand what goes into designing a good logo and visual identity for a company or organization. There's a reason why advertising agencies get a lot of buck for this sort of work, because, at its best, it requires a team of skilled professionals who know what they're doing in terms of good design, aesthetics, and the actual way the logo needs to function. Just my two cents from an industry professional within graphic design. It's not just about slapping together some nice-looking shapes. There's a lot that goes into it.
@@hyperbolicparaboloid154 yes, because they have no clue what actually goes into a good logo design. Just like like AI enthusiasts that have no clue what goes into art.
@@pipkin5287 Exactly. That's why AI will ultimately become a tool for artists which is one of the better outcomes. But I feel like some companies would likely cut corners and not care about the nuance and meaning about their logos. I know some people who'd settle for such things as long as it looks good.
@@hyperbolicparaboloid154 I don't personally see a use for it, but some will probably use it? It's much faster for me to just sketch out the exact idea I have, rather than spending time using a generator model. To me, it feels like a bad slot machine where you'll never really get the thing you're looking for anyway. So, you'll either have to settle, or just draw it yourself, and in my case, be it for logos or illustrations, sketching it out is way more time saving.
This what struck me on the whole situation: It is nothing extraodinary about a being that was solely created for drawing i.e. Ai, but when a creature, a human being, created who knows for what is doing artworks - it is extraodinary. Moreover, look at Kim Jung Gi is fasinating that you can achielve that skill, meanwhile Ai that can do the same is not.
I feel like this video is going to need an update in a few years when AI actually CAN do all of the steps and make specific corrections, while also improving in quality and generation speed.
@@WALDENSOFTWARE No, it absolutely can. You can already vaguely explain an idea to ChatGPT and have it generate prompts for AI art generators. There's no sane limit to these technology if you combine different types of AIs.
I tried the whole "Oh, I'll just use AI as a base!" with mixed results. Maybe one time out of ten I got something workable, and the time I spent getting the AI to cooperate COULD have been spent, y'know, actually drawing. Plus, the more I learn about it, the more the ethical ramifications bother me.
@@_loss_ the tool is meant to replace artists AND it's not worth our time. People will just go with garbage instead of actually paying fair wages for things.
🚫 to AI!!! Yes!!! I hate it. I am still practicing and learning new skills at 52. My world becomes that much more enriched with every new thing I learn. I always feel so happy when I’ve done something new. I will look at my creations over and over and I’m fulfilled. Thanks for the videos and your time in teaching (or trying to teach) people to learn to create on their own. ❤
Dude i'm against AI but i think you are being optimistic to the point of self-delusion if you pick a basic kid-scribble-like drawing and put it on there it can generate hundreds of versions in seconds and many of them can change only specific places allowing it to be much more precise and that is now look how fast its improving, you may be trying to be non-alarmist but that can end up being worse because people wont realize just how bad the situation is and how much it needs to be changed until its too late
I'm gonna share what I posted on r/ArtistLounge for anyone watching this video. AI art is the equivalent to a soccer mom or everyman car driver who just wants to get from point A to point B with their vehicle. They don't care about how fast they get there, how their engine works, how good is their suspension or how to make a turn in the fastest way possible. They want a car that looks good, has decent gas mileage and get them there and back. Now, actual art (traditional and digital) is the equivalent to a professional race car driver. They just don't want to get from point A to B, they want to be A MASTER OF THEIR VEHICLE AND BE IN FULL CONTROL! They want to find the sweet spot apex of every turn on the track, they want to tune their car via adjusting the suspension, brakes, replace some of the parts of their car with lightweight parts to reduce the weight of the vehicle, they want to equip the perfect tires for the weather conditions and the asphalt of the track, add a rear spoiler to use aerodynamics to their advantage and overall be one with their vehicle and shave seconds of their lap times. AI art works in broad generalizions, we excel in specifics! Let's say for example if you want to draw a portrait of Zendaya? With AI art if you type up a prompt of "A Portrait of Zendaya" you will get a pretty good portrait of Zendaya BUT what if you want Zendaya posing with a Borchardt C-93 pistol while wearing a 1890s newsboy outfit alongside a 1957 Cadillac Eldorado with cross shaped gold rims? Uhhhhhhh, yeah, AI is going to have some problems processing that. Plus even if it SOMEWHAT gets close to that prompt, it's still going to have consistentcy issues like it will give you a C-96 pistol or she will be dressed up like a modern day news anchor (can't comprehend what turn of the century newsies dressed up like) or it might be a 1957 corvette (cool car but not the exact car we had in mind in the illustration) and the rims on the car might be diamond shaped instead or just be a simple hubcap. Plus her pose comes into question too. Do you want her aiming the gun straight at the pov in a dynamic, foreshortened manner? Do you want her sitting on the hood of the car? Behind the wheel looking behind and firing her gun? Shooting at the car attempting to kill the other driver? A POV of the sorry sap who is about to get iced by her? Well with AI art it will spit these at you and you have no control over the pose you really want from your imagination. Well with the power of actual art, YOU ARE IN CONTROL! You can draw this illustration in whatever medium or palette you want, you can use very sketchy lines or definitive lineart or hell, even forgo lineart and use value changes to establish form. Also don't mean to make this post longer but I have something I would like to add to this subject. Why do we go into forests with hunting rifles and gear to shoot deer and other game when we could go to our local supermarket and buy some beef or chicken to eat to live? Once upon a time if we wanted to survive, we have to painstakingly go and hunt down animals to eat them. If we failed at that, we didn't eat. But with the invention of marketplaces, General stores and then Supermarkets and refrigeration, we no longer needed to risk our lives to feed our families. But why do we still go on hunting trips? WE DO IT FOR THE THRILL OF THE HUNT!!! We do it feel the leaves rattle around us and smell the trees and grass around us, we find the deer in our line of sight, we aim the rifle, we point, take a deep breath, wait for the right moment then BANG! Now we can hang up the head in our living rooms as a trophy. Why do we go fishing when we can go eat at Red Lobster? There is just something about holding that rod and reel at the open sea or lake and the satisfaction of reeling up that heavy Bass after the tug of war you just had with the fish 5 mins ago. Yes, AI art is all about the results but there is just something about going to the blank canvas with a plan, moving your arm around to lay down some marks, inking your finalized lines and bringing your art alive with color and having the satisfaction finishing your creation when a few hours or weeks ago, your sketchbook, canvas or tablet was simply a blank void. TL;DR AI Art makes a purdy picture but sucks for the time being at specifics and then there is the thrill of the hunt. I apologize for talking about the harming of animals for sport but I was using it as an example. I am not a hunter but I have fished a few times and not the best at it lol.
I'm all for the betterment of technology. Progression can lead to some amazing things...but also some negative...how long before humans are replaced? Not just in art but in everyday life? Its a double edged sword and I don't know if I like it
I look at it this way - Progress is generally a good thing, but the argument "but it's progress!" or variants thereof ("you're just scared of progress!" being a common one I see) is not a very strong one. Because progress is ultimately subjective. The creation of the nuclear bomb and the Manhattan Project were technically progress, but would anyone argue it's a good thing we now have politicians with extinction bombs at their fingertips? Many of the world's most horrific deeds were done in the name of ideologies their creators believed would "progress" humanity in some way or another. Progress is good, but careless progress without care for ethics, morality, etc. because "It'S pRoGrEsS" is incredibly dangerous.
AI art is not progress... is just another product for hyper- consumism if you can use it as a tool, it's just because is not good as a final product yet.
I agree I don't know if electronics and computer programs will ever get that far. I'm actually quite tired of all electronics and computer programs which has made simple things more difficult to do. it has also messed up a lot it should update, it freezes, crashes and so on. betterment of technology can mean many things but I don't think AI is any good,
Before we landed on the moon, we were sure that going to the moon will change everything. We will put all our time and resources into spade travel. We went to the moon, people all around the world watch and rejoiced, and then we got bored of it. Once we actually did it, we asked ourselves, what's next? That's how I feel about AI art. It's all the hype right now. Normal people (non artistic) are playing around with these AI sites, but they get bored with it very quickly. Sure, AI is here to stay, but it's not going to destroy us or take all our jobs. These constant threats that AI is coming for us all is just fear mongering to keep us all scared. It's easier to control a scared sheep than a brave one. Sure, jobs will dissappear with the growth of AI, but many new jobs will come. We need to stop putting fear into people. Not sure how, but there are smarter human out there that will have the answer
Hey, I came to this channel with the aspiration of becoming an artist and honing my drawing skills. As a graphic designer, I often rely on a variety of images sourced from different contexts , combined with effects, and sometimes I even utilize AI to expedite processes that would otherwise consume hours of manual work. Utilizing AI allows me to efficiently edit, remove elements I don't need, and incorporate what I desire into my work. It's a practical solution for me, as I lack the tools typically associated with traditional artistic methods. Investing in equipment like a digital screen and pen could potentially streamline my workflow and enhance the quality of my creations in the future, but I can't afford that at the moment.
I'm just as impressed by robots "drawing" as I am impressed by robots lifting a heavy bag. People get amused because they're starting to see them as living creatures, which is disturbing. And while we're arguing about whether a souless machine can draw, there are children out there sold to slavery, women stoned to death, men sold as spare parts to the black market. Yeah, we are living in a dystopia. It's not a fantasy anymore.
IDK where it's going... But if the lawsuits and the fact Midjourney is now looking to sue it's users due to how one sided it's own legal battle is going, it's safe to say that for the time being, the ethics and legality of Ai simply won't last at least as things are now. The laws physically need to change for Ai generation to survive period, I just hope it never comes to that
Honestly, if Midjourney does a 180 and sues it's users for infringement to recover legal fees from its own (hopefully) future court loss, I'm going to laugh my ass off from the sheer irony, and also feel slightly vindicated that there's a good chance all of the grifters will get to feel the burn as they have to pay for their disgusting behaviour in actual money.
@@pipkin5287 A lot of them, like a LOT of them, are also fresh from the Crypto and NFT scams too. Hence why so many in the Ai generation field are out for a quick buck. Would be funny to see the courts asking for money... No no, real money, get that crypto out of here and your ugly monkeys too XD
@@Topbeehler haha omg, yes. The sheer reality check when they let the courts know they'll pay in etherium and it's rejected because, sorry guys, this is an actual fine you're actually getting. You need to pay it with real money.
I hate this dumbass comparison between ai art and the emergence of photography, one's obviously mimicking previously made art and another is a reflection of what one sees irl.
It's literally the same. You're looking trough it with cloudy lenses because you're biased towards something you're passionate about. AI art is on a completely different level. You think up something in your brain, and then you try and make the ai produce it by designing your prompt in such a way that gives you a satisfactory result. Then you use that seed and continue to tinker with it til you've got something you like. Again, photography isn't painting, it replaces aspects of painting, but it's still a separate media.
@@_loss_ "It's literally the same" ok so ai is just taking pictures of life? AI is very much different because its an algoritim learning off of artists work. Photography can only take pictures of what it sees. I just wonder when you think enough is enough? should humanity just be cucked by ai?
Another 5 years. It's a different tune. If you're selling digital online and somehow some can easily copy the style using AI and that's one of the problem.
I literally had to start doing a different job because of Ai image generators. I’m not a big time artist but the commissions helped. When I observe well known and popular artists, I see them panicking less, because this’ll affect them the least. On the other hand, someone with a small following will get heavily affected. It’s just the beginning and what Ai can’t do now, such as not having 10 fingers on one hand and googly eyes on a portrait, that’ll all be fixed. With all the lawsuits being thrown around, I feel that These companies will be victorious. There’s no way a judge is gonna see all this and say it’s not transformative. It’s gonna rule in favor of fair use and when that happens the flood gates will be all open.
in the not too distant future we won't need judges/courts either. an AI judge would be able to listen to arguments, scan through thousands or millions of related cases in a matter of minutes then render its verdict, no jury needed. judge, jury and what ever crime punishment fits all in one sitting. the cold cruel logic of AI determines your fate.
The artists' mantra is "if you copy ONE artist, that's theft, but if you copy from SEVERAL artists (the famous "moodboard"), that's art", why is that?, because if you use references from several artists , each artist has a style, their own way of seeing the world, so there is no way to take all that and just put it in an artwork, because it will not make sense, the references will have different renderings, different lighting, different perspectives. .. So, for it to have coherence and meaning, the artist has to put his own touch to all those references, that's the part where the creativity and style of the artist himself comes into play. And also that human input is what makes your artworks fall into fair use of copyrighted material. Now, the training of an AI in a very simplified way is that, it takes an image, it gradually gives noise to the image and it tries to REBUILD the image, until the point where it is pure noise. This is where the copyright issue comes in. The dataset, with which the AI is trained, is full of copyrighted artwork and the AI tries to RECREATE those images, based on the prompts given, simplified example, a dog with a hat, the AI knows how to recreate " a dog", "a hat" and very surely someone already drew that, so "a dog with a hat" too, combine those results and those are the images you get. What does this mean, that the final image is nothing more than the recreation made by an AI and that recreation is derived from copyrighted material. If you see that the "art" created by AI lacks life, this is the reason, the AI does not contribute anything new, it has no concept of creativity, it is simply trying to recreate artwork already created by professional artists. So you still need artists to create things from imagination, AI has no such concept.
As a software developer, people have been scared of AI for years, "the robots are going to rise up and kill us all!" Yeah, your washing machine has no AI inside it because it would be priced out of reach because of the processor required to run it, the processor is likely some tiny 8-bit (maybe the successor to Terminator's 6502) incapable of running AI code, it is running a very simple deterministic state machine and none of those states are labelled "kill the people in the house."
give your basic washing machine access to internet, link into AI site and it could wait until you reach into the machine to pull your close out, it goes into an immediate hyper spin cycle and it takes your arm off
@@Houdini_Bob It would need a more elaborate program embedded into the tiny 4Kb SRAM on the MCU flash to be able to do that and 4Kb isn't a lot of space.
This opinion piece is only relevant in relation to the current state of AI generated art. But keep in mind that it becomes better and better with every passing day. In a couple of years(if not much earlier) it will be able to do all the things it currently can't do. So yeah, it will take away a lot of jobs. As eventually, a single artist who uses AI generation software as one of his/her tools, could replace a whole department of artists. But regardless, I think that there will always be a demand for human made art pieces.
Currently it's a super fun toy, made unethically, but has the potential to be even super-er and fun-er and even less ethical... but I don't see it replacing industry professionals.
@@Gammatrap maybe industry professionals no, but what about people starting, freelancers, people that make comissions etc.? i think you need to adress that ... please
Yes AI art isone of the most offensive, trash things I can think of... The purpose of AI is to fill low creativity jobs, like calculating, so people can focus on the more enjoyable fields like ART. this is like the worst thing, it's taking away the importance of artists like us. and soon people will probably become way less artistic, and creative because of it. I hope they address AI art soon :/
Have you seen those AI characters that can interact with humans? What are your thoughts on that? Also can you review Alethea AI? They’re also working in the same. Recently they’ve launched CharacterGPT.
Devil's advocate: how is this different than someone making a moodboard/collage of arts they like and creating a piece based off those? (or musicians sampling songs) Afaik, concept artists kitbash some pieces too so they use bits of the original images. (There's also this which I think is a cop out: ruclips.net/video/nJPERZDfyWc/видео.html)
When using a mood board you're not directly working off of those images. You use them to create a mood that inspires and influences the particular mood you're trying to create. You're studying how certain compositions and objects play a part in that and how it can play a part in your own composition. You don't need a mood board to create something, but it can make it easier to know what a client is going for if you have one (and often, the clients provide them!) Concept art is about creating atmosphere, storytelling, and mood through quick images. They're not meant to be finished illustrations, but are used as a mood board, if you will, for developers, when making say, a game or a movie. If photobashing is used, the images used in that process are always vetted by art directors, so that you don't use images that are copyrighted. Or the rights to use the images are purchased beforehand for this use. Musicians who sample other musicians' songs also have to pay royalties to the original composer of the piece(s) they use for their sampling. So everyone is compensated and credited here too.
@@Gammatrap as i said in my other comment i think you are definitely being overly optimistic in this one, we need artists to push back and if we take this laid off attitude of "things will inevitable fix themselves" then its can end up horribly, if that first case where it was decided nobody can own the copyright of a ai image had happened with artists being aware it may have had a different result and now it will have severed negative impact on us, we wont get a second chance if we don't rise up now
Well if majority of artists starts posting their work more carefully on sites that dont allow AI data collection for example, the AI has nothing or very little to "learn" from anymore.
@@Zere616 You do realize that these Ai's can learn from reality too, right? They'll be hooked into dash cams, and traffic cams, nature cams, and telescopes. They'll have an infinite amount of pictures to draw from.
@@darkwitnesslxx Yes? Then it just scans images where it can imitate reality without any stylisation. It doesnt get better drawing dragons for example and other fantastical stuff. It has no imagination.
The one really amazing thing about AI art is that it is giving me SO many ideas of projects that I want to try out myself with just pencil and paper. I like drawing masks and celtic knots...but might go for something else now that I can have AI come up with the most bizarre ideas. Its a lot of fun.
So I’m an ai artist who does it for free on twitter, I have a lot of popular ai artists who are my friends, we are all in agreement that people don’t understand what it takes to make ai art, or good ai art I should say. Yes there is the typing in words, but if u want a really good pic you have to type in coding as well, not to mention that once u have a pic u like you have to go into inpaint and edit it, there takes some serious skill to be able to make a good peace of ai. A lot of ai artists like my self are looked down on coz of big names saying they should, when in fact the ai art community is honestly the most nicest and least toxic fandom I have ever seen. I’m looking forward to ai going forward however I will always do it for free as I don’t want to take away from other artists.☺️
Ah yes, the least toxic community that disrespected an absolute legend of a man, loved by most professional artists, *the day after he died*, held a contest with multiple models specifically trained on one artist's work and then emailed said artist to harass and cajole him further than they already had, simply because he'd called one of them out for their scummy behaviour and theft. The same "least toxic" community who actively uses famous living artists' names to generate their garbage without anyone's consent. Go ask Greg Rutkovski how he feels about having been written in a damn search bar some 400.000+ times by now, spoiler alert: he's not thrilled. And the same people who use his, and many other's identities for their disgusting grift will turn in an instant upon the people whose work made their whole venture possible. Yes, it's all very flowers and sunshine with your so-called community.
@@pipkin5287 granted there are some bad eggs but I’m not one and nether are the ones I have made friends with, i in no way condone making images of people without there permission. I’m sorry that has happened to them and I hope they are ok, like I said not all ai artists are horrible, I try to be extremely friendly and nice but I can see and understand the hatred towards us and I do t blame,
@@SHADOWBLADE8182 granted, there are more bad eggs than people who try to be kind, but even if you are a kind person - and you've left me no reason to think otherwise - that is not the only reason why your community is toxic. You're using a piece of tech that's actively hurting a lot of small businesses, and therefore livelihoods. It doesn't matter that you're doing it for free, when you're playing a part in devaluing the infinitely harder work and dedication that goes into actually creating art or illustration. Being an artist is already severely undervalued and underpaid, and this is setting some really ugly presedent for people to further demean and devalue it, despite what goes into it. Let me provide an example for some real life context: I'm a licenced Graphic Designer and print specialist who has 15+ years of experience within my field. If someone were to hire me for graphic design work, it'd cost them my hourly pay of ~157$ per hour. I spent 4 years learning graphic design before I got my license. In contrast, if people are to hire me for commission work, I'd be paid just 18$ an hour (an industry professional who does nothing else would be paid around 37-50$ an hour). My learning in art is ongoing for the past 20 years. I've already spent 5 times as long learning to draw and paint as I have graphic design, but this is the pay gap you see all the time if you know anything about these industries. And now, people who think writing words into a search bar is 'hard work' are further devaluing the sheer amount of effort it takes ro learn these things.
@@pipkin5287 that’s why I do it for free, I just post pretty pics,I stay away from politics , all I’m saying is a lot of us share my views and are extremely nice
Do you also ask construction workers to consult on spinal surgery? Do you think specialists in a chosen field are the least qualified to talk about it if what they're saying is just something you don't want to hear?
its amazing for photobashing, are you kidding me lol. amazing starting point, who wants to keep drawing trees and textures, you learn nothing after first few.
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It's not my job to tell you what to do or what to like. My job as a teacher is only to encourage growth. At it's current iteration, Ai is a very regressive tool that is detrimental to your growth as an artist. And for those of you who just wanted this humble industry professional's point of view on the topic, I hope the insight was at least entertaining if not informative.
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I basically just stared at the background because it looks soo good. Your opinion on AI creations has inspired me quite a bit. There is still a long way to go for AI and the way the developers of AI do things can be considered immoral in the least. I am not an artist, so I just appreciate good looking images and sometimes AI (like Midjourney) has created stuff that I can only call impressive. Since I am no professional, these AI images are enough for me as pc background, but I also value art from real artists. Stay strong and enjoy your job, I really like the art that you create. AI won't get you anytime soon.
Seeping into music too now. I say give yourself 2-3 years in any art form and you'll outdo any form of AI.
it will come to a step where those AI servers are going to be attacked , through massive DOS attacks or even physically , because they are playing on the nerves of millions of artists around the world ,
and sooner or later they will trigger some war to happen , and it wont be good for those companies.
humans can become very emotional over what they own and what they create , and if someone stole that from them it will become a dirty situation
and if they want a mid solution , it would be at least to split the revenue with the artists they use their art as material ,
king of the system youtube use with music ,
if you use a copyrighted song they allow it on your channel but some of the Ads revenues goes to the artist who produced the song.
I think you're massively over estimating the influence that art has... No war will start over AI art lol..
The thing is, artists arent the same people as hackers. and the groups that would need to employ, likely support AI Art.
Lets put away the weapons and have a reasonable discussion.
Non artists completely misunderstand Art as ONLY being the end product. Artists know it’s the process that makes art inspiring, the problem solving, the creative epiphanies.
What we need to consider is that the technology is always progressing, so it's very much possible that in a few years a lot of artists will lose their job. The same goes for many other jobs actually. Chatgpt can write simple code in a manner of seconds, and the code is functional (for the most part). You can also use ai to write articles or maybe even help you write books. We should probably ask ourselves if we want to live in a future, in which humans are gradually being replaced with AI.
I know, this is some kind of distopian sh.t This planet isn't perfect and not suppose to be, only death is perfect and absolute. We humans always have to balance work and life, good and bad. Technology is good and bad at the same time depends who is using it and what for purpose. For example I am trying to buy Ipad to practice didgital drawing for years but I can't afford it so what good does technology makes for me if I can't afford it. 🤷♀️ Or Bugatti car is purest technology who can use it 1% or nobody at all because there are no roads to drive them.
@@moonlightgator If the public wants only Bugatti's, and nothing more, then the roads will be built. If people want only gourmet food, then McDonals will go out of business. If people want only real art, Ai may be gone.
@@WALDENSOFTWARE Sure. Most people don't have the money. I guess everyone wants to work for 15 dollars an hour.
@@moonlightgator The point went way over your head. The cost comes down with higher production.
@@WALDENSOFTWARECost comes down to human labor. This is why AI is attractive to both companies and individuals.
Whats worst is theyre using AI to enter art contest and they dont just submit one they submit alot over shadowing real artists work, can you make a video about artstreet medibang contest?
8:55: glad you brought up the court cases here. Just wanna add that this is a good thing for both artists and ai users, because it will settle the restrictions of ai and protect artists. Ai art in its current form is very dangerous for artists because it can spit out work identifiable to the work it was trained on. Calling back on the samdoesart situation, there was a competition on who was able to make work identical to Sam's work and before someome says "yeah well art styles cannot be copyrighted" yes that true, but the difference between a human and ai learning a artsyle is that the artist has limitations while the ai doesn't. Ai can spit out multiple art works with exact detail, and this is bad for the artist because if your work can be mass produced that means the original creator will be lost in the ocean of content which could effect his lively hood since he relys on his artwork(keep in mid the court case isnt all just about copyright but also to discuss ethics). For him not to get any compensation is UNETHICAL and unfair. But if the court can come to a fair decision, ai can have similar to dance diffusion a range of copyright free imagery to train on and artists work won't ba massed produced.
Even while AI art still isn't indistinguishable from human made art (for now!), don't you think that many companies would still actually prefer somewhat lower quality images made by AI if it means saving a few bucks paying for an artist? There's a lot of big, soulless corporations out there that couldn't care less about art itself and care more about quantity, efficiency and quick cash grabs.
And another thing, AI can also be used to complete incomplete artworks, you can literally draw a stick figure and it will do the rest for you. You can color your black/white art with AI. AI art is going to be everywhere sooner than you think, even before it breaks its current limitations, and it's going to be impossible to detect or enforce. We're approaching a world where all art will under a question mark if it was made by a hardworking human or in two seconds by an advanced AI. How exactly one would prevent AI art from being copyrighted? The unfortunate truth is that it is unstoppable and the Pandora's box is already open. Never underestimate the terrifying capabilities of technology.
Regulations is also a thing that will be put in place, and while it might not stop the AI's it will force a more limited model or in the house types to be the standard.
And people who are caught doing the unethical versions still, will be fined. Just like when people torrent stuff today.
Companies don't want to get fined for breaking the law so I would not be too worried.
As an art director I see no reason to go for AI's instead of paying artists, AI's while they do look impressive cannot create an imagine exactly as you want it to be, as it is basically just doing a calculation based on acceptance rate for your specific prompts.
And that is without even consider the current unethical aspect of it.
When you say it can finish a drawing, it does not really finish it, it take a bunch of guesses and make a character.
But it is likely far from what you had imagined the character to be.
So for me, who is a perfectionist that want to be able to taunt my artist with specific and minor edits, well AI is useless.
And I'm far from the only art director who feels that way.
In regards to the questioning part.. you can very easily prove you did it yourself, by just posting different layers beside your full art work.. I don't think AI art will ever be convincingly separable in layers, like human made art is, it's all generated together as far as my knowledge, theres not a structural process that makes sense from a human standpoint
Seems transformative. Double entendre intended.
The results are always getting better. The tools are going to get easier. Most companies don't have the best artists in the world at their disposal. They might be safe. But most of us aren't the best
Then get better, the art industry has always been competitive
@@ghost4439 He said companies. That would not be the art industry.
i am an artist and I did the thing you mentioned at like 5 minutes. I spend like an hour promting some things together and realized "this is exactly what I DONT want" there was garbage only. it was easy to search up references of the things i wanted to do and it was way more productive and only took me 30 minutes
I think the biggest problem with extreme changes in human society like this, is that they are gradual and sneaky. I think that if AI art just totally happened overnight, people would be sceptical and it would probably die fast. But now it's a slow progression of accepting it as a part of everyday life... slowly... but surely accepting it.
For artists who are worried like I once was until I inhaled a copius amount of copium;
I don't think there's a need to worry. Sure, commision art and logo design will be completely taken over Ai but there's one field the AI can't dominate without the asssistance of real experienced artist. And thats story-based art.
AI could generate pretty pictures, yes that's true. But that's all it can do, nothing more. When used for a project that requires a great understanding of context behind the art and its design elements, it falls off and ultiumately just becomes a tool to do the tedious stuff no artist wants to do.
You think AI could think the same way Rinotuna does? Or replicate the narrative expertise of Makoto Shinkai? Marc Brunet does a lot of illustrations that tells a narrative that I don't think a normal person can make without experience. Doing narrative-based art and making it look and feel good is something only an artist can do.
Artists will just simply move on to a more expressionist approach, a new art movement in the modern days.
Lets look at a much brighter side of AI and the possibilities of the future:
-first, companies will start popping up after seeing the potential of AI art
-The art scene will be completely saturated by AI art and people will get tired of it
-Art communities that embrace AI art will start doing projects
-They realize that talented artist are still needed to judge and control the AI and the decision making of the project.
-There will be a huge art boom and demand for art is sky rocket
-More companies will pop up and demand for artists will increase
-There will be no more artists working on commisions as they will start working on companies that'll give them a more stable income (and commission work will be taken by AI and used by non-artists)
-Non-artists will still not get hired and won't be able to work on art projects as they have no knowledge regarding the subject
At this point, we'll enter the era of art becoming a mainstream profession. Everyone can make art but not everyone can work without proper training.
-Companies like Dreamworks, Pixar or Disney will no longer have a complete monopoly on western animation as more animation companie will appear as a result of the art boom
-Getting into an animtion company will be much much easier
-As a result, we will have SO MUCH more art!
-Animation quality will improve dratically
Imagine if every anime you've ever watched is in the same level as ufotable, that'll be insane!
For so long, art quality has been stagnant and the amount of animated movies with amazing animation is pretty limited. Now artists will have a safe place where they have a steady income, and people will have so much more quality content to watch.
So join me to the path of animation! And utilize AI art to its full potential while honing our skills!
Just FYI, I didn't read your whole argument, because I just wanted to comment on what you said about logo design:
I think you may not understand what goes into designing a good logo and visual identity for a company or organization. There's a reason why advertising agencies get a lot of buck for this sort of work, because, at its best, it requires a team of skilled professionals who know what they're doing in terms of good design, aesthetics, and the actual way the logo needs to function.
Just my two cents from an industry professional within graphic design. It's not just about slapping together some nice-looking shapes. There's a lot that goes into it.
@@pipkin5287 Heh, the thing is tho... Some companies are already turning to ai like that animalis fabula and my local bakery.
@@hyperbolicparaboloid154 yes, because they have no clue what actually goes into a good logo design. Just like like AI enthusiasts that have no clue what goes into art.
@@pipkin5287 Exactly. That's why AI will ultimately become a tool for artists which is one of the better outcomes.
But I feel like some companies would likely cut corners and not care about the nuance and meaning about their logos.
I know some people who'd settle for such things as long as it looks good.
@@hyperbolicparaboloid154 I don't personally see a use for it, but some will probably use it? It's much faster for me to just sketch out the exact idea I have, rather than spending time using a generator model. To me, it feels like a bad slot machine where you'll never really get the thing you're looking for anyway. So, you'll either have to settle, or just draw it yourself, and in my case, be it for logos or illustrations, sketching it out is way more time saving.
This what struck me on the whole situation:
It is nothing extraodinary about a being that was solely created for drawing i.e. Ai, but when a creature, a human being, created who knows for what is doing artworks - it is extraodinary. Moreover, look at Kim Jung Gi is fasinating that you can achielve that skill, meanwhile Ai that can do the same is not.
Here's the thing ai can make decent comedy. If you can make a crazy good comedic isn't that the same as making a crazy good artist.
I feel like this video is going to need an update in a few years when AI actually CAN do all of the steps and make specific corrections, while also improving in quality and generation speed.
It will probably do more steps, but all steps?? Never. At least not respectfully acceptable.
@@WALDENSOFTWARE No, it absolutely can. You can already vaguely explain an idea to ChatGPT and have it generate prompts for AI art generators. There's no sane limit to these technology if you combine different types of AIs.
I tried the whole "Oh, I'll just use AI as a base!" with mixed results. Maybe one time out of ten I got something workable, and the time I spent getting the AI to cooperate COULD have been spent, y'know, actually drawing. Plus, the more I learn about it, the more the ethical ramifications bother me.
So is the tool gonna replace you or is it not worth your time?
@@_loss_ the problem is that people will chose mediocracy just because it's cheaper. Don't play dumb
@@_loss_ the tool is meant to replace artists AND it's not worth our time. People will just go with garbage instead of actually paying fair wages for things.
🚫 to AI!!! Yes!!! I hate it. I am still practicing and learning new skills at 52. My world becomes that much more enriched with every new thing I learn. I always feel so happy when I’ve done something new. I will look at my creations over and over and I’m fulfilled. Thanks for the videos and your time in teaching (or trying to teach) people to learn to create on their own. ❤
10:24 it's all coming together 🤣🤣🤣 that made my day
Dude i'm against AI but i think you are being optimistic to the point of self-delusion if you pick a basic kid-scribble-like drawing and put it on there it can generate hundreds of versions in seconds and many of them can change only specific places allowing it to be much more precise and that is now look how fast its improving, you may be trying to be non-alarmist but that can end up being worse because people wont realize just how bad the situation is and how much it needs to be changed until its too late
Thanks for the Industry insider info. A.I actually had me worried for a bit.
I'm gonna share what I posted on r/ArtistLounge for anyone watching this video.
AI art is the equivalent to a soccer mom or everyman car driver who just wants to get from point A to point B with their vehicle. They don't care about how fast they get there, how their engine works, how good is their suspension or how to make a turn in the fastest way possible. They want a car that looks good, has decent gas mileage and get them there and back.
Now, actual art (traditional and digital) is the equivalent to a professional race car driver. They just don't want to get from point A to B, they want to be A MASTER OF THEIR VEHICLE AND BE IN FULL CONTROL!
They want to find the sweet spot apex of every turn on the track, they want to tune their car via adjusting the suspension, brakes, replace some of the parts of their car with lightweight parts to reduce the weight of the vehicle, they want to equip the perfect tires for the weather conditions and the asphalt of the track, add a rear spoiler to use aerodynamics to their advantage and overall be one with their vehicle and shave seconds of their lap times.
AI art works in broad generalizions, we excel in specifics!
Let's say for example if you want to draw a portrait of Zendaya? With AI art if you type up a prompt of "A Portrait of Zendaya" you will get a pretty good portrait of Zendaya BUT what if you want Zendaya posing with a Borchardt C-93 pistol while wearing a 1890s newsboy outfit alongside a 1957 Cadillac Eldorado with cross shaped gold rims?
Uhhhhhhh, yeah, AI is going to have some problems processing that. Plus even if it SOMEWHAT gets close to that prompt, it's still going to have consistentcy issues like it will give you a C-96 pistol or she will be dressed up like a modern day news anchor (can't comprehend what turn of the century newsies dressed up like) or it might be a 1957 corvette (cool car but not the exact car we had in mind in the illustration) and the rims on the car might be diamond shaped instead or just be a simple hubcap.
Plus her pose comes into question too. Do you want her aiming the gun straight at the pov in a dynamic, foreshortened manner? Do you want her sitting on the hood of the car? Behind the wheel looking behind and firing her gun? Shooting at the car attempting to kill the other driver? A POV of the sorry sap who is about to get iced by her?
Well with AI art it will spit these at you and you have no control over the pose you really want from your imagination.
Well with the power of actual art, YOU ARE IN CONTROL! You can draw this illustration in whatever medium or palette you want, you can use very sketchy lines or definitive lineart or hell, even forgo lineart and use value changes to establish form.
Also don't mean to make this post longer but I have something I would like to add to this subject.
Why do we go into forests with hunting rifles and gear to shoot deer and other game when we could go to our local supermarket and buy some beef or chicken to eat to live?
Once upon a time if we wanted to survive, we have to painstakingly go and hunt down animals to eat them. If we failed at that, we didn't eat. But with the invention of marketplaces, General stores and then Supermarkets and refrigeration, we no longer needed to risk our lives to feed our families.
But why do we still go on hunting trips? WE DO IT FOR THE THRILL OF THE HUNT!!! We do it feel the leaves rattle around us and smell the trees and grass around us, we find the deer in our line of sight, we aim the rifle, we point, take a deep breath, wait for the right moment then BANG! Now we can hang up the head in our living rooms as a trophy.
Why do we go fishing when we can go eat at Red Lobster? There is just something about holding that rod and reel at the open sea or lake and the satisfaction of reeling up that heavy Bass after the tug of war you just had with the fish 5 mins ago.
Yes, AI art is all about the results but there is just something about going to the blank canvas with a plan, moving your arm around to lay down some marks, inking your finalized lines and bringing your art alive with color and having the satisfaction finishing your creation when a few hours or weeks ago, your sketchbook, canvas or tablet was simply a blank void.
TL;DR AI Art makes a purdy picture but sucks for the time being at specifics and then there is the thrill of the hunt. I apologize for talking about the harming of animals for sport but I was using it as an example. I am not a hunter but I have fished a few times and not the best at it lol.
I agree. AI art lacks life and is not something I think is good.
I'm all for the betterment of technology. Progression can lead to some amazing things...but also some negative...how long before humans are replaced? Not just in art but in everyday life? Its a double edged sword and I don't know if I like it
I look at it this way - Progress is generally a good thing, but the argument "but it's progress!" or variants thereof ("you're just scared of progress!" being a common one I see) is not a very strong one. Because progress is ultimately subjective.
The creation of the nuclear bomb and the Manhattan Project were technically progress, but would anyone argue it's a good thing we now have politicians with extinction bombs at their fingertips?
Many of the world's most horrific deeds were done in the name of ideologies their creators believed would "progress" humanity in some way or another.
Progress is good, but careless progress without care for ethics, morality, etc. because "It'S pRoGrEsS" is incredibly dangerous.
@@DuskEalain THIS. So brilliantly put my friend.
AI art is not progress...
is just another product for hyper- consumism
if you can use it as a tool, it's just because is not good as a final product yet.
I agree
I don't know if electronics and computer programs will ever get that far.
I'm actually quite tired of all electronics and computer programs which has made simple things more difficult to do. it has also messed up a lot it should update, it freezes, crashes and so on.
betterment of technology can mean many things but I don't think AI is any good,
9:30 how do you make things look black without actually using black like that
i will learn art any way because I like to draw as a hobby
Before we landed on the moon, we were sure that going to the moon will change everything. We will put all our time and resources into spade travel. We went to the moon, people all around the world watch and rejoiced, and then we got bored of it. Once we actually did it, we asked ourselves, what's next? That's how I feel about AI art. It's all the hype right now. Normal people (non artistic) are playing around with these AI sites, but they get bored with it very quickly. Sure, AI is here to stay, but it's not going to destroy us or take all our jobs. These constant threats that AI is coming for us all is just fear mongering to keep us all scared. It's easier to control a scared sheep than a brave one. Sure, jobs will dissappear with the growth of AI, but many new jobs will come. We need to stop putting fear into people. Not sure how, but there are smarter human out there that will have the answer
Hey, I came to this channel with the aspiration of becoming an artist and honing my drawing skills. As a graphic designer, I often rely on a variety of images sourced from different contexts , combined with effects, and sometimes I even utilize AI to expedite processes that would otherwise consume hours of manual work. Utilizing AI allows me to efficiently edit, remove elements I don't need, and incorporate what I desire into my work. It's a practical solution for me, as I lack the tools typically associated with traditional artistic methods. Investing in equipment like a digital screen and pen could potentially streamline my workflow and enhance the quality of my creations in the future, but I can't afford that at the moment.
Justify copyright infringement however you want
@@Gammatrap lol, its the future buddy ^^
The future is losing a few too many court cases and people's money to be worth many professional's time
@@Gammatrap Oh that makes sense, Alright you convinced me to become a real artist, therefore I'll to learn from your channel new techniques.
I just use ai art as a reference, but with reference in google. am a noob at art though.
7:42 if they want my ugly face, be my guest
I'm just as impressed by robots "drawing" as I am impressed by robots lifting a heavy bag. People get amused because they're starting to see them as living creatures, which is disturbing. And while we're arguing about whether a souless machine can draw, there are children out there sold to slavery, women stoned to death, men sold as spare parts to the black market.
Yeah, we are living in a dystopia. It's not a fantasy anymore.
IDK where it's going... But if the lawsuits and the fact Midjourney is now looking to sue it's users due to how one sided it's own legal battle is going, it's safe to say that for the time being, the ethics and legality of Ai simply won't last at least as things are now. The laws physically need to change for Ai generation to survive period, I just hope it never comes to that
Honestly, if Midjourney does a 180 and sues it's users for infringement to recover legal fees from its own (hopefully) future court loss, I'm going to laugh my ass off from the sheer irony, and also feel slightly vindicated that there's a good chance all of the grifters will get to feel the burn as they have to pay for their disgusting behaviour in actual money.
@@pipkin5287 A lot of them, like a LOT of them, are also fresh from the Crypto and NFT scams too. Hence why so many in the Ai generation field are out for a quick buck. Would be funny to see the courts asking for money... No no, real money, get that crypto out of here and your ugly monkeys too XD
@@Topbeehler haha omg, yes. The sheer reality check when they let the courts know they'll pay in etherium and it's rejected because, sorry guys, this is an actual fine you're actually getting. You need to pay it with real money.
I hate this dumbass comparison between ai art and the emergence of photography, one's obviously mimicking previously made art and another is a reflection of what one sees irl.
People who say that are only looking at things through a pure utilitarian view. I hate the buggy comparison too. Art serves more than pure function.
It's literally the same. You're looking trough it with cloudy lenses because you're biased towards something you're passionate about.
AI art is on a completely different level. You think up something in your brain, and then you try and make the ai produce it by designing your prompt in such a way that gives you a satisfactory result.
Then you use that seed and continue to tinker with it til you've got something you like.
Again, photography isn't painting, it replaces aspects of painting, but it's still a separate media.
@@_loss_ "It's literally the same" ok so ai is just taking pictures of life? AI is very much different because its an algoritim learning off of artists work. Photography can only take pictures of what it sees. I just wonder when you think enough is enough? should humanity just be cucked by ai?
@@_loss_ photography is a whole other medium that doesn't require paintings in order to function.
Another 5 years. It's a different tune. If you're selling digital online and somehow some can easily copy the style using AI and that's one of the problem.
I literally had to start doing a different job because of Ai image generators. I’m not a big time artist but the commissions helped. When I observe well known and popular artists, I see them panicking less, because this’ll affect them the least. On the other hand, someone with a small following will get heavily affected. It’s just the beginning and what Ai can’t do now, such as not having 10 fingers on one hand and googly eyes on a portrait, that’ll all be fixed.
With all the lawsuits being thrown around, I feel that These companies will be victorious. There’s no way a judge is gonna see all this and say it’s not transformative. It’s gonna rule in favor of fair use and when that happens the flood gates will be all open.
in the not too distant future we won't need judges/courts either. an AI judge would be able to listen to arguments, scan through thousands or millions of related cases in a matter of minutes then render its verdict, no jury needed. judge, jury and what ever crime punishment fits all in one sitting. the cold cruel logic of AI determines your fate.
@@Houdini_Bob Reminds me of the 80's Transformers movie... "Innocent... punishment... death".
@@WALDENSOFTWARE yeah you're life is a movie? funny
@@therealOXOC Your life is a sit com. Funnier.
@@WALDENSOFTWARE *laughtrack*
what brush did you use in this timelapse?andwhat settings
The artists' mantra is "if you copy ONE artist, that's theft, but if you copy from SEVERAL artists (the famous "moodboard"), that's art", why is that?, because if you use references from several artists , each artist has a style, their own way of seeing the world, so there is no way to take all that and just put it in an artwork, because it will not make sense, the references will have different renderings, different lighting, different perspectives. .. So, for it to have coherence and meaning, the artist has to put his own touch to all those references, that's the part where the creativity and style of the artist himself comes into play. And also that human input is what makes your artworks fall into fair use of copyrighted material.
Now, the training of an AI in a very simplified way is that, it takes an image, it gradually gives noise to the image and it tries to REBUILD the image, until the point where it is pure noise. This is where the copyright issue comes in. The dataset, with which the AI is trained, is full of copyrighted artwork and the AI tries to RECREATE those images, based on the prompts given, simplified example, a dog with a hat, the AI knows how to recreate " a dog", "a hat" and very surely someone already drew that, so "a dog with a hat" too, combine those results and those are the images you get. What does this mean, that the final image is nothing more than the recreation made by an AI and that recreation is derived from copyrighted material.
If you see that the "art" created by AI lacks life, this is the reason, the AI does not contribute anything new, it has no concept of creativity, it is simply trying to recreate artwork already created by professional artists.
So you still need artists to create things from imagination, AI has no such concept.
Think you need to add a big fat *yet to everything that AI cant do... were before the AI boom not actually after it.
As a software developer, people have been scared of AI for years, "the robots are going to rise up and kill us all!" Yeah, your washing machine has no AI inside it because it would be priced out of reach because of the processor required to run it, the processor is likely some tiny 8-bit (maybe the successor to Terminator's 6502) incapable of running AI code, it is running a very simple deterministic state machine and none of those states are labelled "kill the people in the house."
give your basic washing machine access to internet, link into AI site and it could wait until you reach into the machine to pull your close out, it goes into an immediate hyper spin cycle and it takes your arm off
@@Houdini_Bob It would need a more elaborate program embedded into the tiny 4Kb SRAM on the MCU flash to be able to do that and 4Kb isn't a lot of space.
@@Houdini_Bob your washing machine is dumber than a ti-84
This opinion piece is only relevant in relation to the current state of AI generated art.
But keep in mind that it becomes better and better with every passing day.
In a couple of years(if not much earlier) it will be able to do all the things it currently can't do.
So yeah, it will take away a lot of jobs. As eventually, a single artist who uses AI generation software as one of his/her tools, could replace a whole department of artists.
But regardless, I think that there will always be a demand for human made art pieces.
Currently it's a super fun toy, made unethically, but has the potential to be even super-er and fun-er and even less ethical... but I don't see it replacing industry professionals.
@@Gammatrap maybe industry professionals no, but what about people starting, freelancers, people that make comissions etc.? i think you need to adress that ... please
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Yes AI art isone of the most offensive, trash things I can think of... The purpose of AI is to fill low creativity jobs, like calculating, so people can focus on the more enjoyable fields like ART. this is like the worst thing, it's taking away the importance of artists like us. and soon people will probably become way less artistic, and creative because of it. I hope they address AI art soon :/
Have you seen those AI characters that can interact with humans? What are your thoughts on that? Also can you review Alethea AI? They’re also working in the same. Recently they’ve launched CharacterGPT.
Devil's advocate: how is this different than someone making a moodboard/collage of arts they like and creating a piece based off those? (or musicians sampling songs)
Afaik, concept artists kitbash some pieces too so they use bits of the original images.
(There's also this which I think is a cop out: ruclips.net/video/nJPERZDfyWc/видео.html)
When using a mood board you're not directly working off of those images. You use them to create a mood that inspires and influences the particular mood you're trying to create. You're studying how certain compositions and objects play a part in that and how it can play a part in your own composition. You don't need a mood board to create something, but it can make it easier to know what a client is going for if you have one (and often, the clients provide them!)
Concept art is about creating atmosphere, storytelling, and mood through quick images. They're not meant to be finished illustrations, but are used as a mood board, if you will, for developers, when making say, a game or a movie. If photobashing is used, the images used in that process are always vetted by art directors, so that you don't use images that are copyrighted. Or the rights to use the images are purchased beforehand for this use.
Musicians who sample other musicians' songs also have to pay royalties to the original composer of the piece(s) they use for their sampling. So everyone is compensated and credited here too.
hahaha wait two years and make this vid again. I'm calling it.
we'll see
@@Gammatrap as i said in my other comment i think you are definitely being overly optimistic in this one, we need artists to push back and if we take this laid off attitude of "things will inevitable fix themselves" then its can end up horribly, if that first case where it was decided nobody can own the copyright of a ai image had happened with artists being aware it may have had a different result and now it will have severed negative impact on us, we wont get a second chance if we don't rise up now
Well if majority of artists starts posting their work more carefully on sites that dont allow AI data collection for example, the AI has nothing or very little to "learn" from anymore.
@@Zere616 You do realize that these Ai's can learn from reality too, right? They'll be hooked into dash cams, and traffic cams, nature cams, and telescopes. They'll have an infinite amount of pictures to draw from.
@@darkwitnesslxx Yes? Then it just scans images where it can imitate reality without any stylisation. It doesnt get better drawing dragons for example and other fantastical stuff. It has no imagination.
The one really amazing thing about AI art is that it is giving me SO many ideas of projects that I want to try out myself with just pencil and paper. I like drawing masks and celtic knots...but might go for something else now that I can have AI come up with the most bizarre ideas. Its a lot of fun.
So I’m an ai artist who does it for free on twitter, I have a lot of popular ai artists who are my friends, we are all in agreement that people don’t understand what it takes to make ai art, or good ai art I should say. Yes there is the typing in words, but if u want a really good pic you have to type in coding as well, not to mention that once u have a pic u like you have to go into inpaint and edit it, there takes some serious skill to be able to make a good peace of ai. A lot of ai artists like my self are looked down on coz of big names saying they should, when in fact the ai art community is honestly the most nicest and least toxic fandom I have ever seen. I’m looking forward to ai going forward however I will always do it for free as I don’t want to take away from other artists.☺️
Ah yes, the least toxic community that disrespected an absolute legend of a man, loved by most professional artists, *the day after he died*, held a contest with multiple models specifically trained on one artist's work and then emailed said artist to harass and cajole him further than they already had, simply because he'd called one of them out for their scummy behaviour and theft. The same "least toxic" community who actively uses famous living artists' names to generate their garbage without anyone's consent. Go ask Greg Rutkovski how he feels about having been written in a damn search bar some 400.000+ times by now, spoiler alert: he's not thrilled. And the same people who use his, and many other's identities for their disgusting grift will turn in an instant upon the people whose work made their whole venture possible. Yes, it's all very flowers and sunshine with your so-called community.
@@pipkin5287 granted there are some bad eggs but I’m not one and nether are the ones I have made friends with, i in no way condone making images of people without there permission. I’m sorry that has happened to them and I hope they are ok, like I said not all ai artists are horrible, I try to be extremely friendly and nice but I can see and understand the hatred towards us and I do t blame,
@@SHADOWBLADE8182 granted, there are more bad eggs than people who try to be kind, but even if you are a kind person - and you've left me no reason to think otherwise - that is not the only reason why your community is toxic. You're using a piece of tech that's actively hurting a lot of small businesses, and therefore livelihoods. It doesn't matter that you're doing it for free, when you're playing a part in devaluing the infinitely harder work and dedication that goes into actually creating art or illustration. Being an artist is already severely undervalued and underpaid, and this is setting some really ugly presedent for people to further demean and devalue it, despite what goes into it.
Let me provide an example for some real life context:
I'm a licenced Graphic Designer and print specialist who has 15+ years of experience within my field. If someone were to hire me for graphic design work, it'd cost them my hourly pay of ~157$ per hour. I spent 4 years learning graphic design before I got my license.
In contrast, if people are to hire me for commission work, I'd be paid just 18$ an hour (an industry professional who does nothing else would be paid around 37-50$ an hour). My learning in art is ongoing for the past 20 years. I've already spent 5 times as long learning to draw and paint as I have graphic design, but this is the pay gap you see all the time if you know anything about these industries.
And now, people who think writing words into a search bar is 'hard work' are further devaluing the sheer amount of effort it takes ro learn these things.
@@pipkin5287 that’s why I do it for free, I just post pretty pics,I stay away from politics , all I’m saying is a lot of us share my views and are extremely nice
Damn, this is a complete misrepresentation of ai-art. Leave it to a salty artists to give another spicy take. Thanks for being close-minded.
Do you also ask construction workers to consult on spinal surgery? Do you think specialists in a chosen field are the least qualified to talk about it if what they're saying is just something you don't want to hear?
i cant draw so i use ai
Do you get like an ego boost from that or smt?
@@memezurdreamz2203 no i dont have talent
You're literally commenting this on a channel that teaches people how to draw. Bffr
@@alexandra_avr5055 you need talent first lmao if you want to leanr
Not true. You just need to want to learn bad enough you're willing to practice
its amazing for photobashing, are you kidding me lol. amazing starting point, who wants to keep drawing trees and textures, you learn nothing after first few.
Agreed... A.I. imagery is trash