It's always awesome when bands are really good but still small enough to interact with fans/listeners. I have a question: Have you considered doing playthroughs of some Relentless Mutation songs? I'd LOVE to see you play A Dark Horizontal or Human Murmuration. Especially Human Murmuration, the part where you go into a ride/snare blast with the guitars tapping away is great :)
Super cool people. Talked to a few of them outside of shows. You could not ask for such a cool band to have such cool musicians. Super friendly, kind, awesome folks. Archspire deserves all the success.
Spenser if a fucking athlete! It really stuck with me what he said in some interview: he said that the songs are so intense that his breaths are all calculated (there are exact places when he needs to inhale and when he needs to exhale) and if he messes up and just one inhale or exhale is at the wrong place, he might not be able to complete the song as intended, because he runs out of stamina because of lack of oxygen. Now that's pushing drumming to the very extreme! Also live he has a very commanding presence behind the drums. He looks like he could take out the entire crowd by himself, haha. Overall big respect, great musician!
from what i understand a gravity blast is like a double stroke, using the rim as a fulcrum point. you get one hit on the way down, and when your hand comes up, the stick pivots around the lip of the rim for the 2nd hit.
@@AndrewRooneyDrums I think it's similar to the Moeller technique but is using the rim as the fulcrum as 0s1r1s said, if that's helpful in visualizing the gravity blast
I saw these blokes when they came to Melbourne in 2018. Its honestly one of the most eyepopping shows off musicianship I have ever seen. These guys just did a phenomenal job
According to a video Spencer Prewett put out, he does the "crossing over" so blood can flow back into the hi-hat arm/hand and keep him from tiring out as quickly. It's a single hit on the hi-hat and a 4 stroke roll on the snare and he alternates what hand is doing what. He calls it a "switch blast"
A thought on the kick beaters being close to the head: they'll be using triggers as opposed to mics to record to bass drum sounds. Once you get to a certain speed you just can't get the power behind each hit for it to be at a consistent volume compared to slower points in the song so instead of micing up the kicks they feed the notes in through a sensor connected to an electric drum brain instead, it's still note-for-note but not the organic sound of the drum. That's why they're stuffed chock-full of padding as well; to try keep the original sound from picking up on other mics in the mix. The beaters are so far forward because if you don't have to worry about delivering with power at all you might as well adjust totally for speed.
@@AndrewRooneyDrums glad I could help! If you want some more extreme metal drummers to check out have a look at Spencer Moore from Inferi and Allan Cassidy from Black dahlia murder, both exceptional musicians with a lot of pro-shot play throughs on RUclips.
6:50 A lot of metal drummers use triggers, so while they can be loud in person the very fast kick sections are typically very light compared to slower sections.
Would love to see you react to either Ne Obliviscaris - And Plague Flowers The Kaleidoscope or Night Verses - Copper Wasp! Great drumwork and nice playthroughs too
I just recommended the same Ne O song, haha! Dan Presland is a damn machine. May not be the fastest or most brutal, but his style is super unique and his coordination between all 4 limbs is next level. His feet also go for days... My band opened for them 4 times now, and I got to watch him play from the side of the stage and damn. My feet and legs hurt just watching him.
The Clint Commander that's awesome! Yeah his stamina is insane. Seeing the Night Verses reaction would be cool too, Aric Improta is probably the most innovative drummer out there right now
When he moves his feet back he is basically doing his version of a heel-toe. He's getting double strokes..... And yes switch hand blast beats are not easy, at least for me! Badass drummer!!
HIs mastery over energy and momentum conservation for speed and hand swapping between cymbals and snare in between a long blast is insane. Dudes one of the fastest and most skilled drummers out there
He has tutorial videos on his techniques, why he switches hands on blasts to save stamina. Metal drummers use "triggers" on the kick pedals, weights on the heads so smaller strokes are louder, yet this makes it so you need to be more precise, since each kick becomes way more noticeable
Concerning the gravity blasts: I practiced them at school with pens on the edge of school books. Once you get the feeling for the tipping motion right, the adaptation to the kit is trivial. The limiting factor concerning speed is obviously how fast you can move your hand, i.e., moeller with the respective hand. Therefore, I did not especially train the gravity blast for faster tempos. Instead, the tempo of my gravity blasts is essentially the same as the tempo at which I can do the Moeller technique. I have no better explanation; hope this helps. Great content, keep it up. Cheers!
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Hey friend, you should have a look at Jon Rice's playthrough, from Job for a Cowboy. ruclips.net/video/7FBmoHncI9g/видео.html This came out when I was in high school, and we idolized this guy. I'd love to hear what you think. It's kinda like the infant annihilator playthrough, with the vocals removed.
2:35 As someone with a pretty good gravity blast, most of the difficulty comes from getting the very basics down, as once you do you can gravity blast about as fast as your single stroke using a very similar technique, so once you understamd how to gravity blast you don't have to dedicate much time to it specifically.
I used to share a jam space with this band. He runs triggers on the kicks. But he would legit practice like 3 hours a day god knows how many times a week. I'd be there 4 times a week and he was almost always there when I was. He treated it like a job. He wouldn't just show up to band practice, he'd put in hours on his own.
Crazy stuff, my man. I saw Archspire back in whenever when they toured with Fleshgod Apocalypse. Knew nothing about them but needless to say, they nailed it. The entire venue (small as it was - everything is small in Denmark compared to other countries) was in awe. Chill dudes, too, spoke to Dean Lamb outside the venue afterwards while we were trying to pick ourselves up. Many a jaw saw the floor that night. Imagine how difficult it is to replicate such technical music live. Crazy shit, man.
I love Archspire!!! I've been a metalhead for over a decade. I found Archspire in 2018. You should check out Archspire covers of their Relentless Mutation album.
The gravity blast uses the rim of the snare to act as the pivot point. It starts with sort of a rim shot, uses the rim to catch the stick, and follows up with a stroke again. I modify my grip a bit when I do them and let the rim act as the fulcrum. It didn't take me more than a couple of weeks or so to learn it with my right hand, but I've had more trouble with my left. I think it's because I use möller for my right hand and fingers for my left hand. I use my wrists a lot less with my left.
You sorta can now! They just released a mini-doc about the writing process of their most recent album, Bleed the Future! I believe it's on the Sumerian channel.
I love how your just sitting there with a relaxed smile, cup of tea, "little of a Mario vibe there lol" while this dude is just blasting for his life :'D
That switch blast tho. To let his hands recover blood to them. And he admittedly uses triggers. He's still very precise and definitely hitting the notes.
Lol no way. I used to live with dean lamb their guitarist just after he joined archspire and spencer crashed on the couch once. If I would have known one day he would be reacted to by Rooney
I'm a couple months late, but basically grav blasts use the rim as a lever point so you're basically moving the stick up and down over the rim really quickly to get that one handed roll
The thing that really impresses me about extreme metal drumming is how efficient their movements are. It's hypnotic. To play THAT many notes at those speeds for any length of time, you can't waste a single millisecond or ounce of effort moving from one note to the next or between parts of the kit. And they employ so much physics to pull it off, like the rim fulcrum gravity blast and sliding back on the pedals. All to push the limits of human precision. I think this would be better understood if there were more drum cams/play-throughs.
Spencer is actually a very intelligent and creative super athlete who’s into drums. :) Riccardo Merlini talks all about muscle twitch in his course. Fascinating how far you can develop yourself hey. Johnny Rabb has great creative use of the freehand technique too.
It took me about twenty minutes to get a gravity blast down because I watched this dude explain it but ya you just use the rim to get rebound and do small up and down movements to do it
I don't know anything about equipment or how shows are setup but, when you mentioned "in person".. I saw these guys a few years ago and of the dozens and dozens of bands ive watched live, the thing I remember most about archspire was it seemed the impact/setup/amplification kicked you in the chest with a size 17 foot at the entry door to the venue.
Once you get the feel for gravity blast it's very easy. The trick is you hit the head and the rim at the same time which lifts the stick and gives a hit on moving your hand up so you get 2 hits per stroke. It's more of a "hand shaking" motion. I bet if you tried it you'd have it in an hour tops.
I think the very fast bass drum part is played like the mühle roll on the snare, 2 beats each, alternately left and right, like a mühle roll on the snare rr,ll,rr,ll ..etc..isn't it ?
how loud are they on the kicks? it depends. this kind of kick work is not that loud. its about triggers. some metal drummers want more sound from the triggers, others prefer more acoustic sound. with faster metal there is usually at least some amount of triggers. they came in with Pete Sandoval, the drummer of Morbid Angel, who kinda hated the imprecise and muddy, fully acoustic fast kicks so he added triggers to the mix, and basically set the standard for blast beats in death metal. bands like archspire in general often end up with 100% triggers. quite a few extreme metal drummers also trigger their snares, typically in order to get audible gravity blasts. however, there are still exceptions. my drummer friend kinda exploded with praise, when he saw this "psychedelic" death metal band Gigan live and noted that thats not a triggered snare (he could have been wrong of course), and that the drummer has just set the mic very loud and controls his hits in other sections. ( ruclips.net/video/LVDHgW_7-l4/видео.html pretty good quality live ) that said, the truth is that you can even go full trigger and still get great music. it all depends on the intention and the musician. this song got me into extreme metal and the drummer (Nick Barker) is all triggered: ruclips.net/video/cugtePr9380/видео.html . if you want a good run down from the point of a drummer and producer at the same time, just message Jaime Saint Merat. im sure his explanation is going to be vastly superior in every respect.
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Here is a video of Spencer showing his blast techniques without any music (It's within a few seconds of the start). ruclips.net/video/X_bMt2CpnrY/видео.html He triggers his kicks but not his snare. Here, here talks about his entire setup: ruclips.net/video/Hy55ZojwBVQ/видео.html&t=19s
Great video, thanks. It took me 100's of hours just to teach myself how to play double kicks and the only way I could keep up with Spencer is in my dreams...
Once you get the technique down for gravity blasts personally I don't think it requires too much practice for upkeep.... but then again I can't blast like Spencer Prewett so maybe that's where I'm going wrong
Lol you're correct, Prewitt is distinctly inhuman! Can't get enough of his stuff. Fyi- that crossover alternating hand 4note blast bursts move he does is known as the "Dirk Blast," as it was developed by drummer Dirk Verbeuren. Spencer just takes it to an absurd level and Archspire is one of the most relentlessly punishing tech death bands!!
You should check out a drummer called Lille Grueber from a band called defeated sanity if you haven’t. He has a completely different style of drumming for death metal. I think the cat is a jazz instructor/composer. You would dig it.
Christ alive this is intense. I wish it was recorded a little clearer, but that would probably defeat the point I guess. Seeing those really quick gravity blasts instead of a whole section of it is pretty impressive.
I've just stumbled on these vids but to answer the question regarding left handed gravity blast, I haven't commonly seen it other than this guy, I can do it as well but that is because I am primarily left handed I can switch my hands during blast beats with no issue, I have my kit set up in a right handed set up, so that I can be as technical as possible all around
After 10years. I'm still learning that gravityblasts. It works realy good. But, i only can do this with my ride hand. He does it all the time with both hands. He is a beast
@@AndrewRooneyDrums I got another good one right here for you boss. Lord Marco - no triggers and blindfolded. Hunhau mintal " Creadory Formador" Drum playthrough
Lord Marco also plays in Ring's Of Saturn and has two drum playthroughs, one being called "The Husk"and the other "Mental Prolapse" excellent drummer well worth the watch
Regarding how close his kick batters are to the heads, he uses electronic triggers on the bass drums, so he doesn't have to hit them hard. This is the norm in death metal drumming.
As far as gravity blasts. They're not super difficult to pick up, more time is dedicated to making them consistent. Essentially you position the drumstick so that as your hand moves downward the tip strikes the drumhead (DOWNSTROKE 1). However, instead of moving your hand back up, you continue to bring the stick down so the that stick pivots on the lip of the drum ( bringing the tip up again: UPSTROKE 1). Then you bring your hand back up and the stick reverses its pivot and strikes the drum again (DOWNSTROKE 2). You continue to raise your hand pulling the stick completely off the drum (UPSTROKE 2). Repeat and refine until you have a relatively small and consistent movement, making an even double-stroke, single-hand roll. I basically learned with a pencil on the edge of a desk. Drums are even easier since the head is springy.
yep bouncing off the rim shortening the travel distance for a faster roll same as the double peddle Technique, that,s why on faster sections his foot is further back
Please do give a shot at covering this some time, very few drummers could. Idk if you ever play this fast but it sure would be interesting to see you try..
Gravity Blast is kinda like the heal toe for double bass strokes except it’s rim head. I started practicing it in 2021 and still not 100% happy with it. 😂
This guy's so tight he's like a rope 🤣🤟 Saw these at Hellfest they are outstanding & the pit was insane!! Also Andymon, checkout/research their live microphone set up! 👌
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Thx for the love dude. Let me know if you want some info on those techniques
Hey brother!
Hit me at andrewrooneydrums@gmail.com
Let's get something hooked up!
You're a f'n amazing drummer! Thanks for the music!
It's always awesome when bands are really good but still small enough to interact with fans/listeners. I have a question: Have you considered doing playthroughs of some Relentless Mutation songs? I'd LOVE to see you play A Dark Horizontal or Human Murmuration. Especially Human Murmuration, the part where you go into a ride/snare blast with the guitars tapping away is great :)
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Don't worry Spencer can teach you to play exactly like him in only a 4 hour session lol :)
🖤🖤🖤🖤Archspire!!
Spencer: “I paid for the whole drum kit, I’m using the whole drum kit.”
Including rim and sticks.
i paid for the whole guitar
the whole Archspire crew are certified insane...thanks for the vid btw
Yes they are Ricky!
Super cool people. Talked to a few of them outside of shows. You could not ask for such a cool band to have such cool musicians. Super friendly, kind, awesome folks. Archspire deserves all the success.
I didn't think it was possible but I saw them live 2 times now and they are just about perfect live. Blew me away.
One of the crispiest live shows I've ever seen. And it was a shit venue. They are absolutely incredible.
@@gearhart0steve Yeah, Impressive how on point they are. Must be a lot of practice.
Surgical precision. It could be even faster too.
My friend said it really well after we saw them last time "I've never been fucked this well before"
@@Sabroe_ffs Dam, Sounds like he got the VIP pass. ha ha
Spenser if a fucking athlete! It really stuck with me what he said in some interview: he said that the songs are so intense that his breaths are all calculated (there are exact places when he needs to inhale and when he needs to exhale) and if he messes up and just one inhale or exhale is at the wrong place, he might not be able to complete the song as intended, because he runs out of stamina because of lack of oxygen. Now that's pushing drumming to the very extreme!
Also live he has a very commanding presence behind the drums. He looks like he could take out the entire crowd by himself, haha. Overall big respect, great musician!
And this kinda stuff is why i absolutely love death metal. Every 10 years it just skyrockets in technical prowess and speed.
from what i understand a gravity blast is like a double stroke, using the rim as a fulcrum point. you get one hit on the way down, and when your hand comes up, the stick pivots around the lip of the rim for the 2nd hit.
nice job good quick description
Awesome stuff guys!!!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums I think it's similar to the Moeller technique but is using the rim as the fulcrum as 0s1r1s said, if that's helpful in visualizing the gravity blast
Exactly that.
Johnny Rabb is someone who has taken this very far, including rudiments. Sometimes called the free hand technique.
5:05-5:20 he's absolutely speechless lmao
🤣👌
I saw these blokes when they came to Melbourne in 2018. Its honestly one of the most eyepopping shows off musicianship I have ever seen. These guys just did a phenomenal job
Man... archspire is insane live... yeah they can do it live and they do it quite well. Sound just as good live as they do on a recording. 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
GREAT!
According to a video Spencer Prewett put out, he does the "crossing over" so blood can flow back into the hi-hat arm/hand and keep him from tiring out as quickly. It's a single hit on the hi-hat and a 4 stroke roll on the snare and he alternates what hand is doing what. He calls it a "switch blast"
Oh right! Awesome info Austin. Thank you
A thought on the kick beaters being close to the head: they'll be using triggers as opposed to mics to record to bass drum sounds.
Once you get to a certain speed you just can't get the power behind each hit for it to be at a consistent volume compared to slower points in the song so instead of micing up the kicks they feed the notes in through a sensor connected to an electric drum brain instead, it's still note-for-note but not the organic sound of the drum. That's why they're stuffed chock-full of padding as well; to try keep the original sound from picking up on other mics in the mix.
The beaters are so far forward because if you don't have to worry about delivering with power at all you might as well adjust totally for speed.
Great info!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums glad I could help!
If you want some more extreme metal drummers to check out have a look at Spencer Moore from Inferi and Allan Cassidy from Black dahlia murder, both exceptional musicians with a lot of pro-shot play throughs on RUclips.
So glad you cover him! I love the band and the drum is exeptionnal, this guy is a machine!
Couldn't agree more!
Jamie St. Merat is an absolute beast, his feet are unbelievable, one of the best drum performances I’ve ever witnessed.
Check out my vid where I went to an Ulcerate gig!
6:50 A lot of metal drummers use triggers, so while they can be loud in person the very fast kick sections are typically very light compared to slower sections.
Pause ALL you want, its your reaction we want
Thank you!
Would love to see you react to either Ne Obliviscaris - And Plague Flowers The Kaleidoscope or Night Verses - Copper Wasp! Great drumwork and nice playthroughs too
Great suggestion!
I just recommended the same Ne O song, haha! Dan Presland is a damn machine. May not be the fastest or most brutal, but his style is super unique and his coordination between all 4 limbs is next level. His feet also go for days... My band opened for them 4 times now, and I got to watch him play from the side of the stage and damn. My feet and legs hurt just watching him.
The Clint Commander that's awesome! Yeah his stamina is insane. Seeing the Night Verses reaction would be cool too, Aric Improta is probably the most innovative drummer out there right now
Both amazing suggestions. Solid thumbs up.
I saw Archspire in concert . Not only can he do everything live , he did it on Beyond Creation's drumkit! Astounding.
When he moves his feet back he is basically doing his version of a heel-toe. He's getting double strokes..... And yes switch hand blast beats are not easy, at least for me! Badass drummer!!
This guy is so insane. Great reaction bro
HIs mastery over energy and momentum conservation for speed and hand swapping between cymbals and snare in between a long blast is insane. Dudes one of the fastest and most skilled drummers out there
Way to go Sean. Nice pick. Great reaction as usual.
Appreciate it!
He has tutorial videos on his techniques, why he switches hands on blasts to save stamina. Metal drummers use "triggers" on the kick pedals, weights on the heads so smaller strokes are louder, yet this makes it so you need to be more precise, since each kick becomes way more noticeable
Concerning the gravity blasts:
I practiced them at school with pens on the edge of school books. Once you get the feeling for the tipping motion right, the adaptation to the kit is trivial.
The limiting factor concerning speed is obviously how fast you can move your hand, i.e., moeller with the respective hand. Therefore, I did not especially train the gravity blast for faster tempos. Instead, the tempo of my gravity blasts is essentially the same as the tempo at which I can do the Moeller technique. I have no better explanation; hope this helps.
Great content, keep it up. Cheers!
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Hey friend, you should have a look at Jon Rice's playthrough, from Job for a Cowboy.
ruclips.net/video/7FBmoHncI9g/видео.html
This came out when I was in high school, and we idolized this guy. I'd love to hear what you think.
It's kinda like the infant annihilator playthrough, with the vocals removed.
2:35 As someone with a pretty good gravity blast, most of the difficulty comes from getting the very basics down, as once you do you can gravity blast about as fast as your single stroke using a very similar technique, so once you understamd how to gravity blast you don't have to dedicate much time to it specifically.
5:04 Spencer goes so fast Andrew can't even see what's happening and doesn't react at all haha
🤣👌
I was about to suggest this one. Great that you already made a video!
I used to share a jam space with this band. He runs triggers on the kicks. But he would legit practice like 3 hours a day god knows how many times a week. I'd be there 4 times a week and he was almost always there when I was. He treated it like a job. He wouldn't just show up to band practice, he'd put in hours on his own.
Going as fast as him you have to, or it would bs too muddy and not heard… every metal drummer uses triggers live.
Where do they jam
Kick triggers are just weights....
Just not human....hes speed it's over 9000!!!!.....
Archspire so freaking incredible!! He's a machine🤘🤘
Crazy stuff, my man. I saw Archspire back in whenever when they toured with Fleshgod Apocalypse. Knew nothing about them but needless to say, they nailed it. The entire venue (small as it was - everything is small in Denmark compared to other countries) was in awe. Chill dudes, too, spoke to Dean Lamb outside the venue afterwards while we were trying to pick ourselves up. Many a jaw saw the floor that night. Imagine how difficult it is to replicate such technical music live. Crazy shit, man.
Those dirk blasts always amaze me. Flams are already pretty cool but that fast and that diverse are nuts
I love Archspire!!! I've been a metalhead for over a decade. I found Archspire in 2018. You should check out Archspire covers of their Relentless Mutation album.
The gravity blast uses the rim of the snare to act as the pivot point. It starts with sort of a rim shot, uses the rim to catch the stick, and follows up with a stroke again. I modify my grip a bit when I do them and let the rim act as the fulcrum.
It didn't take me more than a couple of weeks or so to learn it with my right hand, but I've had more trouble with my left. I think it's because I use möller for my right hand and fingers for my left hand. I use my wrists a lot less with my left.
Id love to see how Archspire makes a song.
"Dude you messed up about 3,000 beats ago."
🤣👌classic Ryan!
You sorta can now! They just released a mini-doc about the writing process of their most recent album, Bleed the Future! I believe it's on the Sumerian channel.
@@matchress3832 thanks i appreciate the heads up.
Archspire!! Been waiting for this one! Thanks for getting to it.
Hope you enjoy it!
Spencer Prewett is the future of what drums will sound like when humanity catches up
I love how your just sitting there with a relaxed smile, cup of tea, "little of a Mario vibe there lol" while this dude is just blasting for his life :'D
HAHA!
"That's not human" - that's why we love Archspire. Alien lifeforms who love metal masquerading as humans.
Yeah that cross-over hit-hat/snare roll is fantastic...
Spencer is a Machine!💀🤘
Yes Eric!
That switch blast tho. To let his hands recover blood to them. And he admittedly uses triggers. He's still very precise and definitely hitting the notes.
"I don't even know.." a very honest review 😅👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
HAHA!
Gotta keep it real
Lol no way. I used to live with dean lamb their guitarist just after he joined archspire and spencer crashed on the couch once. If I would have known one day he would be reacted to by Rooney
What a fecking beast!!! Absolutely insane drummer!!! Sad that he left the band...
4:26 - This is why I watch these "Reacts to Spencer Prewett" videos.
I'm a couple months late, but basically grav blasts use the rim as a lever point so you're basically moving the stick up and down over the rim really quickly to get that one handed roll
The thing that really impresses me about extreme metal drumming is how efficient their movements are. It's hypnotic. To play THAT many notes at those speeds for any length of time, you can't waste a single millisecond or ounce of effort moving from one note to the next or between parts of the kit. And they employ so much physics to pull it off, like the rim fulcrum gravity blast and sliding back on the pedals. All to push the limits of human precision. I think this would be better understood if there were more drum cams/play-throughs.
Yeah, couldn't agree more and that stamina is off the freakin charts
Great content thanks Andrew
Hey Tyler!!!
Have worked with these guys and can confirm hes loud live without amplification.
Spencer is actually a very intelligent and creative super athlete who’s into drums. :) Riccardo Merlini talks all about muscle twitch in his course. Fascinating how far you can develop yourself hey. Johnny Rabb has great creative use of the freehand technique too.
That cross over thing is hits hard 🤘
Yes you're right. It's single hand roll utilizing the rebound of the primary stroke.
It took me about twenty minutes to get a gravity blast down because I watched this dude explain it but ya you just use the rim to get rebound and do small up and down movements to do it
Excellent Elijah!
my husband and I saw Archspire . Spencer Prewett is a force of nature .
What most metal drummers do in order to play loud without having a huge stick angle is just using heavy sticks. Helps with the rebound too
Nice!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Spencer uses the Vic Firth Classic Metal Nylon, which are long, thick and heavy. I use them as well and they hit really loud
Man, look at the wear pattern on that snare head. So small, so accurate.
I don't know anything about equipment or how shows are setup but, when you mentioned "in person".. I saw these guys a few years ago and of the dozens and dozens of bands ive watched live, the thing I remember most about archspire was it seemed the impact/setup/amplification kicked you in the chest with a size 17 foot at the entry door to the venue.
It's like time is dilatating whenever he does those hand alternating snare blasts.
Welcome to the deeper parts of the Canadian tech-death forest. Quo vadis's drummer (yanic bercier) also is someone to watch and admire.
Thanks for the tip!
I practiced the gravity blast for about a week one time and felt somewhat comfortable with the technique while not taking it too seriously
Once you get the feel for gravity blast it's very easy. The trick is you hit the head and the rim at the same time which lifts the stick and gives a hit on moving your hand up so you get 2 hits per stroke. It's more of a "hand shaking" motion. I bet if you tried it you'd have it in an hour tops.
Yep, just open your hand, let the thumb and forefinger act as a hinge and rock your hand a bit. It's actually the easiest of the blasts to play.
Yeah I think it's the same technique Buddy Rich used back in the day...
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Every cool metal trick.. Was once a cool jazz trick 😂
Gravity blast is when you use the rim of your snare as a fulcrum point in order to get two stick hits out of one motion!
I think the very fast bass drum part is played like the mühle roll on the snare, 2 beats each, alternately left and right, like a mühle roll on the snare rr,ll,rr,ll ..etc..isn't it ?
5:04 just blows my mind. Just, wow.
no drummer on this earth can do this !
@@glowskullsmedia1499 Aaron kitcher from Infant Annihilator can.
not human are the perfect words to describe Archspire lol
Need to see more!
Thanks to Buddy Rich ! John Longstreth set the bar high in III album 2002 in extreme drumming gravity blast .
the pedal is close to the BDrumhead because he uses midi trigger.most of the drummers of this style are using (and) midi trigger.
I don't know the first thing about a gravity blast.... but it sounds like a good name for a drink.
HELL YEAH!
how loud are they on the kicks? it depends. this kind of kick work is not that loud. its about triggers. some metal drummers want more sound from the triggers, others prefer more acoustic sound. with faster metal there is usually at least some amount of triggers. they came in with Pete Sandoval, the drummer of Morbid Angel, who kinda hated the imprecise and muddy, fully acoustic fast kicks so he added triggers to the mix, and basically set the standard for blast beats in death metal. bands like archspire in general often end up with 100% triggers. quite a few extreme metal drummers also trigger their snares, typically in order to get audible gravity blasts. however, there are still exceptions. my drummer friend kinda exploded with praise, when he saw this "psychedelic" death metal band Gigan live and noted that thats not a triggered snare (he could have been wrong of course), and that the drummer has just set the mic very loud and controls his hits in other sections. ( ruclips.net/video/LVDHgW_7-l4/видео.html pretty good quality live )
that said, the truth is that you can even go full trigger and still get great music. it all depends on the intention and the musician. this song got me into extreme metal and the drummer (Nick Barker) is all triggered: ruclips.net/video/cugtePr9380/видео.html .
if you want a good run down from the point of a drummer and producer at the same time, just message Jaime Saint Merat. im sure his explanation is going to be vastly superior in every respect.
Great info!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums youre welcome
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Here is a video of Spencer showing his blast techniques without any music (It's within a few seconds of the start). ruclips.net/video/X_bMt2CpnrY/видео.html
He triggers his kicks but not his snare. Here, here talks about his entire setup: ruclips.net/video/Hy55ZojwBVQ/видео.html&t=19s
Great video, thanks. It took me 100's of hours just to teach myself how to play double kicks and the only way I could keep up with Spencer is in my dreams...
Once you get the technique down for gravity blasts personally I don't think it requires too much practice for upkeep.... but then again I can't blast like Spencer Prewett so maybe that's where I'm going wrong
Raged I'm a year late to the Spencer party, he is the man.
Lol you're correct, Prewitt is distinctly inhuman! Can't get enough of his stuff. Fyi- that crossover alternating hand 4note blast bursts move he does is known as the "Dirk Blast," as it was developed by drummer Dirk Verbeuren. Spencer just takes it to an absurd level and Archspire is one of the most relentlessly punishing tech death bands!!
You use the rim as a fulcrum point for a gravity blast....gotta get the re bound just right
"...middle drummers"
"... ill have to hit up my middle friends"
(who are these middle people?!)
oh he means metal
my father and I were wathing this and thought exactly the same thing lmao
Was waiting for this one same as Dominator's and when u mention JS Merat - ULCERATE - Dead Oceans [Live Drum Playthrough]
please.
You should check out a drummer called Lille Grueber from a band called defeated sanity if you haven’t. He has a completely different style of drumming for death metal. I think the cat is a jazz instructor/composer. You would dig it.
Done it!
Christ alive this is intense. I wish it was recorded a little clearer, but that would probably defeat the point I guess. Seeing those really quick gravity blasts instead of a whole section of it is pretty impressive.
Yeah unreal!
"that's not human" .... yeah this dude is surely gifted and trained
I would recommend Inferno from Behemoth if you want an extreme metal drummer that hits really hard
Thanks Jacob!
BEHEMOTH RULES!!!! 🤟 One best live bands out there!!
There are actually a lot that say he is a light hitter.
Awesome drummer, but absolutely not a hard-hitter.
Hard hitter? Dominator and Proscriptor McGovern hit hard
I've just stumbled on these vids but to answer the question regarding left handed gravity blast, I haven't commonly seen it other than this guy, I can do it as well but that is because I am primarily left handed I can switch my hands during blast beats with no issue, I have my kit set up in a right handed set up, so that I can be as technical as possible all around
He's probably left handed as well and that's probably why he can switch his hands fast
Spencer Prewett it's a beast! Octopus at the drum kit!
Yes!
Can't wait!!!
Hey Louis!
Kiwi!?
How the hell did I miss this one!?
REACT to vildhjärta please?
Thanks Erik!
After 10years. I'm still learning that gravityblasts. It works realy good. But, i only can do this with my ride hand. He does it all the time with both hands. He is a beast
Oh man this ones gonna be siiiiiick
Insanity
@@AndrewRooneyDrums I got another good one right here for you boss.
Lord Marco - no triggers and blindfolded.
Hunhau mintal " Creadory Formador"
Drum playthrough
Lord Marco also plays in Ring's Of Saturn and has two drum playthroughs, one being called
"The Husk"and the other "Mental Prolapse" excellent drummer well worth the watch
@@riffnastyhubanks5714 Thank you!
@@riffnastyhubanks5714 I definitely agree with the Lord Marco no trigger and blindfolded video!
Regarding how close his kick batters are to the heads, he uses electronic triggers on the bass drums, so he doesn't have to hit them hard. This is the norm in death metal drumming.
Yes indeed.
Whatever works!
At those speeds, you almost HAVE to use triggers or else it becomes a hum instead of individual notes.
I don't know why but I look forward to you saying "hit the like 'Budin" everytime!!!! And so I do lol
As far as gravity blasts. They're not super difficult to pick up, more time is dedicated to making them consistent. Essentially you position the drumstick so that as your hand moves downward the tip strikes the drumhead (DOWNSTROKE 1). However, instead of moving your hand back up, you continue to bring the stick down so the that stick pivots on the lip of the drum ( bringing the tip up again: UPSTROKE 1). Then you bring your hand back up and the stick reverses its pivot and strikes the drum again (DOWNSTROKE 2). You continue to raise your hand pulling the stick completely off the drum (UPSTROKE 2). Repeat and refine until you have a relatively small and consistent movement, making an even double-stroke, single-hand roll. I basically learned with a pencil on the edge of a desk. Drums are even easier since the head is springy.
Great info Nathan!
yep bouncing off the rim shortening the travel distance for a faster roll same as the double peddle Technique, that,s why on faster sections his foot is further back
Please do give a shot at covering this some time, very few drummers could. Idk if you ever play this fast but it sure would be interesting to see you try..
Gravity Blast is kinda like the heal toe for double bass strokes except it’s rim head. I started practicing it in 2021 and still not 100% happy with it. 😂
Should have a watch of Divine Chaos - Rivers Of Blood drum playthrough.
Great drummer for a great band
This guy's so tight he's like a rope 🤣🤟 Saw these at Hellfest they are outstanding & the pit was insane!!
Also Andymon, checkout/research their live microphone set up! 👌
Thanks man. I'll have a look!
Hell yeah!
For me the gravity blast or "freehand" blast isn't something I've practiced much. But I've got it down well enough to use it in songwriting.