Xbox Series S vs Xbox One X - Cross-Gen Face-Off - The X Has Had Its Day
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- Two-and-a-half years ago, we stacked up the then-new Xbox Series S up against Xbox One X, finding that Microsoft's junior console had genuine competition on its hands in the form of the prior generation flagship... but now things have changed. Xbox Series S is now a stronger focus for developers, while One X is finally being left behind - and in some cases, there's the sense that the older machine just isn't receiving the care and attention it once did. Here's Oliver Mackenzie with the breakdown.
Watch the first round of our Xbox Series S vs Xbox One S head-to-head here: • Cross-Gen Face-Off: Xb...
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00:00 Overview
01:17 Diablo 4
03:18 Assassin's Creed Mirage
04:30 Persona 3 Reload
05:41 Like a Dragon: Ishin!
06:52 Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth
07:56 Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty
09:07 Loading Tests
10:37 Analysis and Conclusion 
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The only downside for Xbox One games on Series S is that they don't use the "One X Enhancements" and just use the regular version
Yeah I hate Microsoft for deliberately gimping the Series S to force people to buy Series X. These sub FHD Xbox one games look horrible on Series S and a big 4k TV.
Agreed! I wish more people knew about that “compromise”
The first Read Dead Redemption gets 1440p support for series s & it still gets fps boost on some games but I agree with ya
one x had 12 gb ram while series s has 8. You can't overcome this hardware gap with software
@@MrHorst38 this makes 0 sense, why would they even make S in the first place?
I have an older guy at work that was still playing PS2 in 2023, so I gave him my old One X and he’s been having the time of his life ever since. For someone like that, 30 FPS isn’t gonna matter and he has enough games for the rest of his life. Unfortunately, his wife isn’t too happy about it 🤣
PS2 to One X is quite the graphics upgrade, nice
My xbox 1 x put out a 4k signal @60fps.
just wait until he has to reformat his Xbox One X and how he will be cursing you to come fix it.
still playing ps2 in 2024, and i have an xbox series s, not impressed with the quality of the games most of the time, on the plus side, xbox has developer mode so its a great emulator to
What did he play on PS2?
13:16 "It doesn't matter that the Series S has a small GPU, what matters is what it can do with it."
That’s what she said.
That's what she said
That’s what she said
That old Jaguar is severely holding back the One X.
Yup it sucks
No they’re just not making the effort to optimise these cross platform games. It’s gpu should be enough
@@j0nnyism No. Those Jaguar cores are genuine trash. The CPU in the One X isn't even upgraded from the One S which is a very slight, and I mean slight upgrade from from the VCR Xbox One.
The 5400RPM drive is really holding it back, before I sold it I put an 970 QVO SSD in it after following an extensive flashing guide. Afterwards boot tines were exactly the same as SeS. Honestly everyone still rocking one should be using it this way.
@@friedzombie4 Its impossible to have the same loading times as a series console because the CPU is still the one that reads the data. It will be faster but not the same
The Zen 2 CPU & SSD is what give Series S the win easily. Faster load times, less stutter, less CPU bottleneck. Higher clock speeds also help a lot.
There was never a really hard demonstrated Xbox one X bottleneck. The SSD boils down to a change in developer focus to remove loading screens. Which should have been worked into development in many modern titles. Also many of the next generation games were originally announced on the One X/PS4 Pro generation.
SS GPU has virtually the same performance as the 1X GPU, everything else aside of memory, is much better on the SS.
I had both but decided to sell the series s and keep the one x simply coz the blurry image was to much for me. Rather slower and prettier on the older gen.
@@MaxIronsThirdabsolutely not aside from the cpu everything else is better on the one x
@@xtr.7662absolutely wrong
I loved my one x. I paired it with a 500gb seagate ssd. I miss the days of having the most powerful concole on the market
still playing on my one x in 2024 thanks for making this vid!
The Xbox One X is a great console!!
What are you playing right now ? :D
Me too still rocking my one X
Me too! ❤ one x
Me too! ❤
The One X with an internal SSD is a true beast. Load times are almost as fast as the Series consoles.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The Series S should have come with 12GB of memory, faster bus speed and the HDMI 2.1 cable even if it had to cost $30 more.
Yeah but it’s cut corners kind of machine, I mean at least it’s got hdmi 2.1 even though it doesn’t really need it
The cable isn’t really needed as it’s something that the console don’t use much and it can be easily purchased. The thing I agree is the memory, just a little bit more would be perfect.
Bro you mean with hdm that xbox ss have it will not do 120fps mode.
You have to buy the cable ?
@@frostyg1608 it comes with a hdmi 2.0 cable, not 2.1 so it can do up to 120 at 1440p which that box can’t even come close to, to it doesn’t need a 2.1 cable, hence they saved a buck with something you will never need
If it had just 10gb of useable memory for games instead of 8gb, it would have been perfect. Memory always tends to be an oversight when it comes to Xbox. Other than the original Xbox of course. The 360 would have come up short if it wasn't for Epic begging the Xbox team to double the memory pool. People forget the 360 was going to ship with 256mb of memory instead of the 512mb it eventually released with but Epic was on their ass for months about it. Gears of War would have ran like absolute garbage if that didn't happen as it doesn't even have a perfect frame rate with the 512mb. And that era of games wasn't exactly known for stable frame rates anyway. The Xbox One came with DDR3 memory instead of the DDR5 that the PS4 and eventually the One X had. Memory is their blindspot.
I know people like to blame Series S for "holding back" this gen, but when games are still being made for base PS4/XB1, that argument makes no sense at all.
Not only that, but as a PC-only guy I still see tons of games release with system requirements that are much lower than current gen hardware.
I would never buy a Series S, but I find the results really impressive given the hardware & cost.
I Blame Sony and PlayStation crossgen games, old engines to make PS4 graphics on PS5 titles...
@danielcpierrem At least Sony remake their games with an extra coat of paint while Nintendo released Breath of The Wild for the Wii U and Switch with no differences but sure blame Sony.
@@TheSoxor123 BotW released day & date on Wii U & Switch, and there's next to no difference in hardware power.
Sony didn't remake Horizon FW or God of War Ragnarok from PS4 to PS5.... They're just enhanced ports taking advantage of significantly more powerful hardware. That was a horrible example.
@corey2232 Last time I checked HFW and GOWR released day and date with PS4 and PS5. Imagine if Sony released both version with no differences. Because that's what Nintendo did. But yes let's all jump on the Sony hate train. It's the cool thing for gamers nowadays.
Every new Xbox game has to also run on Series S, that's not true of the One X. Clearly different situations.
Wow. Perfect timing for this. Been thinking this week of upgrading my One X (retired to the master bedroom) with an SSD and new thermal paste but trying to weight that against buying a Series S. Unfortunately all the comparison videos are pretty old now. Thanks for providing an updated video!
Definitely go Series X. The downgrade from the X/PS5 is too big to call it next gen.
Buy an x. Don't waste money on the s. For little kids ok, but if you like gaming is just a big waste of money. It's not current gen.
If you have a big ass 4k tv and the money, definitely go for series x. But if you gonna use it on a smaller monitor and money is an issue, series s is ridiculously good for its price.
if you already have a series x and just want something for the master bedroom, I'd get a series s and run it through the one x's hdmi input- that way you can play ur xbox one games at high quality, but you can play the next gen's that won't be coming to previous gen games
@@davidvillamarin-lj2pfIt's fine if you're not a super hardcore gamer. But if I was I would have gotten a PS5. But I like my series S
I bought my Series S as a Game Pass machine and I have been nothing but impressed with what the little guy can do. Arguably I think it is the best designed system this gen being the smallest box while running quietly.
that's how a console supposed to be , cheap and small. Idk when we moved to bulky towers for console
@@विचित्रलड़का The OG Xbox that started it all was morbidly obese and powerful, and proud of it too. haha
@@विचित्रलड़काIt does look pretty goofy now that you mention. Series S has a very clean design compared to the Series X. And the PS5 is absolutely gigantic for no reason
It’s a great Game Pass machine but going from PS5 graphics to Series S is too big a downgrade on a 65 inch OLED tv. Series X is just too big a jump to ignore.
@@dis6900 -Most of the games you don't even notice the difference once you set up your oled 65 inch display and calibrate it by a professional the little system runs very very well ! Example Be honest if you play a first person shooter i don"t care about reflections etc....because you are in the game trying to kill the enemy no time to look at the reflections
I'll keep rocking my One X with an internal SSD swap. The fast storage has pretty much eliminated most of the pop in and framerate issues I noticed when I had a HDD.
One X paired what at the time was a monster GPU with a weaksauce CPU. That said, it was still a heck of a console for its time. I still have my Scorpio Edition.
to all games: when offering 4k 30fps, plz have 1080p 60fps
Unlocked fps is the way to go with vrr
Current gen games mostly do, it's just that the One X just cannot run games at 1080p 60fps due to it's shitty CPU even if it's GPU is great.
That's not always possible, depending on what the bottlenecks are.
it's about the CPU bottle neck
it doesnt work like that
The texture downgrades don't make much sense, and is likely due to lazy development not bothering to add different assets between One S and One X - a shame.
Ai should solve this problem with future games. Assuming the devs use the tools correctly...
From what I remember, it was mostly promised that Series S games would more or less be the same as Series X but with a lower resolution, and looking at the hardware specs, the core part with the cpu and SSD are mostly the same as the Series X, memory is lower but because of running at a lower resolution, it should be enough, especially if the textures are crafted for the lower resolution.
When looking at many games, it's clear to see that too many cuts are being done in other areas, even on frame rate, and honestly, it feels like the Series S port of a game is just a rush job to get it running but with little care and attention to it compared to the bigger brothers.
@@rocstarang5747How is AI supposed to help with texture loading?
I kinda get why that happend I guess since they are making a version for the least succesful version of the least succesful console of the previous gen, after many jumped to Series XS or PS5, and on an acosystem where games aren't as played if they are not on Gamepass.
@@jemandetwas1 down sampled textures genius.
imo Series S is a really neat console because of it's size of a shoebox.
Smaller. I've actually used a shoebox to transport the entire system, cables and controllers.
Smaller. I've _actually_ used a matchbox to transport the entire shoebox, shoes and laces.
What if you're Shaq though
@@Mariscos420in that case you’re using a cello case
Your shoebox reference is just for flippy-floppies?
The One X is still one of the greatest consoles ever made and even after all these years it’s still holding its own.
haha remember all the people that bought a ps4 pro? hahaha that thing was just horrid
This was fascinating as the gap between One X and Series S didn't seem that big on launch so interesting to see how things have played out.
I use my One X everyday, currently playing Diablo IV. Only because my Series X has been taken over by my kids :(
Why don’t you swap and let your kids play the One X?
And it never occurred to you that you are the parent and you can easily tell them to use the one x instead?
Obviously not dads. I will assume the XS is on the nice TV in the main room. Where the kids get down. So u relegated to the one x in a different area with an older display. Cuz this is what I do haha.
Would adding an ssd to the one X possibly help with stutters?
I definitely think loading times would be better too
It helps with load times for sure- I installed an SSD in my One X. I don’t believe it helps with performance otherwise.
@@nintendoconvert4045 Texture loading will be faster too
If the stutters are I/O related, it will definitely help. But we can only tell by testing it. It would be great to test the One X with a SSD against the Series S.
Stutters are rarely related to your HDD, especially on consoles.
I have a pile of boxes here with AMD Athlon 5370 CPUs -- quad-core Jaguar at 2.3 GHz. Even at 2.3 GHz, the little Jaguar cores just don't have much gas in them. I've experimented with putting discrete GPUs in these boxes -- even though they only have PCIe 2.0 x4 -- and it's just a waste of time. Gaming on Jaguar is a joke and it's incredible that we had an entire console generation with these CPUs. They still work nicely for basic browsing and office machines, though, surprisingly!
And yet sony ps4 has amazing games on jaguar cores
@mauriciochacon that's not his point. The cores take forever to load
those faildozer based jaguar APUs were the "Pentium 4 of AMD" so to speak. Lots of clockspeed, zero grunt behind it
@@Knaeckebrotsaege Jaguar isn't related to faildozer. It's a separate lineage altogether that starts with Bobcat designed down in Austin, TX. Jaguar was the initial basis for Zen. However, Zen is much larger than Jaguar, even in its initial release.
Yeah I never really got why both Sony and Microsoft decided that Jaguar was what they needed for their consoles in 2013. Even back then pc gaming on them was pretty much impossible with contemporary games. Kudos to the devs of the time for making it work though. MS even managed decent backwards compatibility with the 360. I guess the cpu is what made backwards compatibility with the ps3 unfeasable for the ps4 though. The Cell is a monster to emulate even on modern hardware.
Loved seeing the test for Persona 3 being the ending. Oliver is a man of good taste
Since Black Ops 6 is all but confirmed to be on PS4 and Xbox One I am curious to see how it'll run and perform into 2025.
I mean I can't see it being as bad as Black Ops 3 was on PS3/Xbox 360 where not only the visuals were worse but was missing whole game modes and dlc content. That said I expect it will struggle a lot much like the last 4 entries to stay above 30fps.
@@GenerationZ313no not really it will be the same as mw3 which is the same since mw2019
@@GenerationZ313 I think PS4 will be ok, but Xbox One could struggle quite a bit especially the VCR and One S due to worse memory and downgraded GPU compared to PS4. Still very surprised about it though, but it also shows how many people have not even bothered to upgrade to next gen consoles nonetheless the Series S even.
@@n7ghtmare99 Agreed. I bought Cold War on One S and it was terrible. Very inconsistent frame rate, to the point where the game would slow down and speed up, constant flickering textures, character models looking like burn victims, and UI having rainbow glitches. It wasn't my console, as MW2019 and BO4 worked fine. I eventually tried it on PS4 and it was so much better. I don't think it's the fault of the XB1 though, the developers are gonna be spread thin developing BO6 for 7 different platforms so naturally the og XB1 is going to fall through the cracks.
@@judgejudys3xdungeon94 I remember getting Cold War on my PS4 Pro at the time and it ran alright especially with having a SATA SSD installed onto it, but when I tried it on an Xbox One and it had many issues. I just hope people don't get screwed again like BO3 on PS3 and Xbox 360, although I don't think it'll run or look as bad as those versions did.
I doubt that all these games are more technologically advanced than RDR2 which runs on X1X in native 4k
and all these games on running on PS4 and no one whines about that, now do they?
@@xBINARYGODx ?
It had also 10 times their budget.
The new consoles didn’t exist for years after RDR2 came out. It wouldn’t be a good show
Rdr2 has a really high budget but also it really doesn't have much going on so it can afford to look better
All these games are also on base Xbox One. I’d be curious to see a video on how that’s holding up for new games.
Yeah I mean, we love that content but is rare to see It in depth on RUclips.
@@Igolorbr It's 2024.
Great video! You should try a Series S running into a One S hdmi input for 4k upscaling vs a Series X.
It would be great!!
Series S already do a 4k upscalling via hardware. As the One S does, PS4 Pro and One X.
I mean, It's simple. 360 would always upscale games to 1080p too via hardware. PS3 via software and that's why many games had to rely on the TV to upscale the games.
Modern ways to upsample image is another totally diferent thing.
A SATA SSD installed on the XB1X helps improving its loading speeds. No, it's still slower than the NVMe on the Series S but it's a massive improvement over any mechanical hard drive.
Massive improvement is Series S, One X even with SSD is still extremely slow
@@tears2040 XD
It's literally a downgrade for Series S, dude. You can't even run current gen versions of games from it.
@@Tarets Buffoon a Series S is an upgrade over last gen One X.
@@tears2040 That's not the discussion dude.
Perfect timing. I'm considering buying an Xbox to play older games through back compat, without buying a Series X. Even though this video is focused on more modern titles, it's a good start to help me make a decision between the Series S and the One X. I prefer stable frames over graphical fidelity, so it's looking like I might choose the Series S.
Loved the content .stick to your style DF .
The frame time graph on the One X version of Wo Long looks like the Scavenger’s Curved Sword in profile
A very timely video. I have a couple of One Xs in storage I was thinking of selling for whatever I could get out of them. As great of a machine as it once was, I think it is time that I part with them.
Still use mine, ssd equipped and disc drive for watching my collections of blu ray box sets
@@dunk79jmf Yeah, mine were working flawlessly when I packed them up. I had one in the living room and one in the bedroom. Now the living room has the Series X and PS5 is in the bedroom. So, now I have two One Xs and a halo4 special edition 360 for emergency situations. I think I will sell all three. I figure if I sell them at market value on Ebay, I could buy one on Ebay at a similar price in the unlikely event I might want to. It took awhile before the graphics looked much different between the One X and this generation.
As someone who bought the s the x and owned the one x. The S plus storage and a decent 120hz TV is all you need. I bought the series x and expensive OLED and it really ended up being overkill. Especially as life gets busy and I become a casual gamer
I took the one x over the series s because its cheaper and it has a disc drive with full 4k capabilities. I am fully satisfied with the one x😊
I just sold my one x and got a series s , am giving you a piece of advice "STAY AWAY" go for series x or ps5 and if you are on budget go for series s you won't regret but my one x has a lot of troubles such as overheating, noisy fans, much much slower menu loading and UI and games loading screen , it always had crushes of system. Sure it's an amazing experience for the price nowadays but trust me don't
Thank you for dropping some knowledge on a saturday 😁👍🏻
Like a dragon Issin on XBOX One X featured a graphic/frame mode switch option, which wasn't mentioned in the video :)
I still have a Won X in my closet boxed up and a 360 Elite in there boxed up too. One day my Series X will join them. Not selling them.
I have Series S, and while it is really a great console, I think it should've been half of what Series X is, which means 28CUs, 6 Teraflops and 12GB of ram (giving games 10 for use). I've played a lot of games and I had some pop up textures issues in Mafia 3 for example. Also, if it was half of X, it could run games at higher internal res, and some games could run at 60 instead of 30 (Evil West for example). Overall I like it, and I'll keep using it until GTA VI comes out, but I still would've liked for it to be a bit stronger.
I concur, with your opinion, or it should have launched at $199.99, which I think at that price it would have been a larger success.
There are features that the system has yet to see used, and I don't think they ever will unfortunately, at least for this generation. The Series S certainly can punch above its weight, disappointing that the full feature set used in game won't see the light of day. I would have been happy with the Series S as is GPU spec wise, if they had launched with 16GB of RAM, I think that would have gone a long way to curb the vocal minority that despise the console.
@@davidwooten7212 By that logic just give it away for free and have an even bigger "success".
@@David-ln8qh I see your trying to be funny, needs some work.
The console at $299.99 was a bit expensive, especially with only 512GB of storage and 360GB usable. I've enjoyed mine, but at 1/3 the power of the Series X and 60% less memory, the price I think could have been lower.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion though.
@@David-ln8qh At $300, you are $100 off a PS5 digital which had 300GB+ storage
Buying an Xbox SSD and Series S, you should've bought a PS5 digital
Thats the problem, why do you think the Xbox 360 sold like crazy. Base model $299 but it had the full feature set but lacked the HDD
@@davidwooten7212it would have to be even weaker at that price point.
You could try AC Mirage in It's resolution mode on Series S. Those videos are great and could be bigger. Great content.
I love the One X so much I'll never get rid of mine. It's the bedroom "streaming tv box" now and it takes a week to boot compared to the Series X in the living room, but it's still there soldiering on.
add a SSD
If the Series S was the only console devs had to develop for, the games for it would be optimized extrememly well. However, devs have to account for multiple platforms if they want to reach as many gamers as possible.
The excuses for the piss poor image quality never cease to amaze me.
Having the series s means they have to make games scalable. A good thing in my opinion. It forces them to use resources efficiently. It's great when games can push the limits of technology while simultaneously being able to scale down to older/entry level hardware. Cyberpunk is a pretty good example of this. It's super demanding at the high end, but people have got it running on integrated graphics just fine.
I do feel the Series S does get a raw deal when it comes to image quality on many games, games could be better on it if there were more care and attention to it.
Games have been scaleable on consoles since they went x86, they are more or less using the PC port of a game, fine-tuned and optimised to get better performance on the given console hardware, but for the most part, the code on PC, PS and Xbox is mostly the same with a few branch off points to get better use of each other given platforms.
It also means these games should be very scaleable thanks to how games scale on the PC, I do feel the Series S could get better use if developers put more effort in the games, especially on image quality which seems to take a big hit on Series S, but honestly, it's clear to see that developers are putting there focus on the PC, PS5 and Series X version of the game, whereas it feels a lot of the times they are just trying to get it working on the Series S but don't care that much about the quality.
What I find remarkable is that games should scale much better on consoles now, with them having backwards compatibility, and assuming future gen consoles have backwards compatibility, you would think more developers would take that into account and have options that scale the game up for future hardware, most of the work is already done on the PC port of the game, it wouldn't be that difficult to scale that on future gen consoles as an option.
Nope. They just can't. Lack of ram and Bandwith. Beside huge lack of gpu power makes a nightmare for devs.
It's terrible for devs and for the x. The amount of resources and time that a crossgen machines takes, could and would be used to make better x games. More, many studios don't have resources to do that. It's just a huge mistake from Microsoft
Love DF ❤
i own a series s and a specific game im interested in is marvel's midnight suns. i see i can get a version for series s or a one x version that the series s would also run but i have no info on performance/issues.
Has this comparison been carried out with the One X having and SSD installed in it, to be a fair one to one comparison? if not, please come back to us with that comparison. I bet that frame pacing is not helped by the One X not having a comparable SSD installed into it. I know the CPU is limited, but that 5400RPM HDD is not helping it be compared to an SSD.
My Xbox Series S is an Indie, Xbox Gamepass Ultimate, retro and call of duty machine
The one x should be supported beyond the one and one s.
I agree with you!!
They all are.
It just has outdated tech
I switched the internal hard drive to an SSD and it's wild how fast it is.
Great topic for a video; thank you!
Ive been having a great experience with the S. I've recently been PC gaming and complementing with the S. Its just a joy and they complement my lifestyle.
For example, I'm probably playing Borderlands 3 on PC then, when I just want to chill and play split screen with my partner, I use the S with the lastest save file.
Honestly, MS build an impressive ecosystem between Xbox and PC.
As a PS5 owner, I absolutely love the S. Great for dipping in and out of gamepass. Tidy little unit
Nah i think the only good use for the Series S is back compat titles from the 360 era.
For Gamepass is better between PC and Series X if you can afford it.
@@dethskullcrusher??
I love both of these consoles! Thank you for this!
Edit: didn’t Xbox One X have a 7200rpm drive? This is why it was touted to have a 50% faster drive.
I would like to see a special video about the original Xbox games running on One X/Series consoles
If they’re the same games it’s not a different console generation.
My NES couldn’t play SNES games, and my SNES couldn’t play N64 games. Likewise the N64 couldn’t play GameCube games.
There was no need for the XBOX series or PS5 consoles and/or they are woefully underpowered and poorly justified. The same frankly applied to the XBOX one and PS4.
Maybe we needed to skip the XBOX one/PS4 completely to really see any ‘console generation’ differentiation
Your console examples are incompatible simply became of the physical media it was presented on.
Such a good point. Imagine going from something like forza horizon 1 to avatar. Our minds would be blown. Like they were when we went from super mario world to mario 64
Last gen consoles have been crippled since release in 2013 by their terrible Jaguar cpus. A 6 TFLOP gpu makes absolutely no sense when the cpu can barely keep up with an entry level Core i3 from that era.
That little console was always an amazing value for gaming. Primary for on the cheap and those who also are ok with something like a switch, and great for a secondary console on a second TV. Got one for my lady a while back after our motorcycle accident so she could play from bed. Hasn't stopped using it since.
there is a peformance setting for xbox one x and one for like a dragon ishin. 60 fps
You guys should do this test with a SSD installed in the one x. I find it increases not just loading but performance.
They did that in a previous video which might interest you. It generally helped with load times
@@LavosYT I've watched that one. But it's not a 2024 video with these latest games
@@LavosYT I I use n.2 on usb on back of mine and Elden ring loads considerably fast.
@@RichardGibsonbzssd doesnt improve fps homie
@@johnnyblaze9217 "homie" I said performance not fps. I guess you don't know the difference.
Im not done with my trusty ol 1X.
I was literally just wondering this. DF is the best!
If the Series S had a disk drive, I would have gotten that instead of the X. I have a gaming PC for super high-end looks and performance. When I'm playing on my living room TV, I only need "good enough." That why I didn't bother with the One X. My One S was, and still is, perfectly acceptable for relaxing after a long day.
I've said it before, but if Nintendo had released a Series S equivalent people would treat it like the second coming of Christ...
😂 switch light
No they wouldnt. Making a version even weaker than the switch means the games would run like shit, games already stuggle on switch
@@DavidS00 come on guys. I'm talking about a literal Series S with a Nintendo sticker on it.
100% - Xbox just gets hate for free. The Series S is a hell of a console and a very smart by Microsoft. Without it, I'd say they'd be doing far worse this gen.
Most likely, the Nintendo Switch Successor would be between PS4/Xbox One and Xbox Series S in terms of power, so you're not wrong, possibly.
One X could still support the latest games if MS allowed. Also I imagine games looking worse ON One X has more to do with Base Xbox One and one X being a better version of that.
Yes. You are right
just remember that adding a SSD to a one x takes 20 minutes
One X with the 2tb ssd upgrade was golden... Such a great machine.... I remember playing halo in 4k and smooth loading
Imagine you can pick up a machine for $219 during the Holidays that can run GTA 6 🤯
at 480p internally, unstable 25fps sure
I saw offers sh as low as 100 usd in Europe :)
@@MarkLaughtonthat was good enough for GTA V on the PS3 lol
@@MarkLaughtonwait until we see the breakdown before you start making up stuff to suit your(more than likely incorrect ) argument.
@@MarkLaughton It's gonna be higher I'm sure 😂
It's kind of complicated. Like there's no way the One X could run Hellblade 2. On the other hand, games like RDR2 and AC:Odyssey run in native 4K resolution on the One X.
Going from that level of image quality to 1080p in some cases kind of proves that the system has been neglected the past couple of years with the last-gen ports. The money just isn't there anymore for it to be worth the effort. The PS4 and its install base is the only last-gen system devs will remotely care about now.
They could but at very low and choppy resolution, ram is there and GPU but it's the CPU that can't handle UE5
It's the CPU. It has a great GPU but games are really starting to eat up more and more processing power. I had to retire my GTX 1080 + 7700k build because the CPU just couldnt keep up.
College Football 25 is not available on Xbox one X or PS4. Sadly I’ll have to upgrade and dump my One X 😢
Great post-mortem content /s
Just bought a XOX for £40 and I have been looking at videos to see how it performs....perfect timing.
40 ??? lmao thats like two pizzas where I live
Damn, some dudes really are dumb selling at 40 pounds a XOX. Props to you though, stratospherical value there.
Great as a Game Pass Ultimate streaming device, until a HDMI dongle is released or a TV app across now more brands.
@@gogreengameon2146 great as much more than that. it runs most of the best xbox games ever made.
@@nicknickname353 That's ridiculous. Both on the pizza and for a deal on a XOX!!
The one x should never of been discontinued
Microsoft have his karma, the numbers of sales in this generation are so bad, they forget one x to early.
One X was a masterclass of a hardware back in 2017
I’ve wondered how different the loading times would be if you installed an SSD into the One X
nearly identical. ive tested this extensively myself. The only difference becomes quick resume
It would be interesting to make a video of the few games which could be easily available to One X but still didn’t make it due to the Original One support requirement
I replaced my stuck One X hard drive with an SSD it has made a huge impact in loading the game itself and also the textures
The XB1X with a SATA SSD was dope!
What about a Xbox One X with a ssd?
Its crazy that, while we're almost 5 years into the 'new' generation of consoles, the old ones are still supported with most of the new games.
The fatal flaw for me, is the absence of disc drive, which would made it even more popular and “cheap” for the customer in the long run cause you can buy old xbox one/360 backwards compatible games.
It's not a flaw, it's on purpose.
@@komred64
It's both.
I'll grab a series X once the used price drops very low, as I'll be buying it primarily for old games, many of which I have on disc.
@@TechRyze You won't regret it. Don't fall for the Xbox bashing, it's a great device.
I don't get this argument in all honesty, Game pass gives you this so I just download the older Gen stuff on external hard drive.
@@henkstols9326 the only exception i can think of is x360 games not available in GP or the store.
Example: Fear 2 which can only be played if you have the disc and the XSX
Serie S is a very good system if you play on a 1080p TV or Monitor. If you play on 4K, then it doesn’t look very good.
I still play 720p. I have XSS. Still pretty good experience with my plasma TV from 2006.
I play on a 4K TV and looks good most of the time. Not as good as a SX will look of course but looks good enough.
@@rusakko91 I love it!!
@@rusakko91 720p....jeez just upgrade your tv already my dude.
@@caviar_dreamzWhy should they if they’re fine with it.
I’d like to point out that the Xbox One X is a great 4k blu Ray player which you don’t get with the series S.
I also would imagine upgrading the Xbox One X with an SSD will change load times.
The series S is a great little console. Great price point on release for the casual gamer. The one X on release a lot more expensive.
You keep mentioning the One X's 'superior GPU grunt', but your own boss has been over how how flops between GPU generations (I think from the jump from Vega to Navi, which was only a single generation jump) are hardly equivalent in practice.
Yeah that’s why I’ve stopped listening to these guys. They just read specs and think they translate all the same. They don’t know HOW things work just know how to read a sheet of paper
Hot take: Series S is the best console this gen. For less than 200 bucks I can have an Xbox, a great controller, game pass, emulation (both the license and HDD to store plenty of games) and a great media machine that takes us virtually no space and makes no sound, all while playing every game at 60fps and looking good.
To me, the Series X and Ps5 just aren't really worth the extra money. My PS5 is just a dust magnet these days. Sure, the extra power is nice but I'm of the opinion that virtually all games look great even on crappy machines anyway.
Fair enough. More options are always better and it shows. It all depends or your use case (equipment, physical games etc).
Microsoft nailed the hardware side of things this generation.
true. I mean, I'm a playstation user and really impressed by the power of my series s. very quiet while playing. I'm not even thinking twice about buying it rather than series x. and pretty much the ps5 is a decent console but I might wait for the pro version instead. I can hold a year or two and play lot of games with gamepass (imo who's partially into gaming bcs of work).
You don’t have to settle, XBX was on sale during the holidays for like $300. The value is nearly unmatched.
Can we get a comparison between the base PS4 and the Series S, I want to understand why some developers say the S holds back the generation while still supporting the PS4
That's about the number of ps4 sold. They want to make money.. The series s holds back because it's extremely weak. Two thing diferent.
One S is the weakest last gen console. So not sure why you are brining up the PS4.
That said the main complaint about Series S is the RAM limitations. That is why Larian couldn't get co op to work in BG3. And why it was delayed several months on Xbox consoles.
"looking at the state of play of 2024":
that can't be good
Series s for playing Xbox one games and game pass for a $200 machine is just a crazy deal
not for the eyes tho , and no studio is actually putting the effort to optimize anything,
what i mean by optimize is coding with the velocity architecture ( sampler feedback streaming )
And No1 wants it. Xbox sales are at lowest ever recorded. That's why they went full 3rd party. Xbox running at a loss everyday. It's crazy
@@jeofthevirtuoussand the series s is a great machine if you have a 1080p tv. Games like mortal combat 11, ACV, MW3 and many others are still great to look at. Some games like mk11 run on 1440p 60, it's a great machine for casual gamers.
@hulkhogan12345
I feel as though putting all exclusives on PC day and date didn't help. I feel as though it will backfire on Sony woth the only thing that could save them being countries where you can't have a PSN account so the PS5 is needed.
I always have and always will believe that exclusives are important for a games console.
@@hulkhogan12345lol what are you on about Xbox is running at a profit and still makes more than copilot
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Resident Evil 4 Remake is on Series S, but not on One X. Even base PS4 has it. Make that make sense.
Mate, there is a performance mode in LAD Ishin on One X
series S is a true console in this gen, cheap small and powerfull
A true flop of this Gen. Power and s doesn't exist. After a year talking about 12 teraflops imagined something with 4 in 2024. Power....
so, upgrade the X with a SSD and call it the day
Yep that's what I do, and said.
No. It doesn’t fix the shitty cpu on the 1X
@@maddrone7814 i'm fine with it in 1080p and ogxbox/360-backwards compatibility
😂😂😂
I still have my Xbox One X.. didn’t upgrade after because it was always held back by the Xbox One.. and as soon as I saw that the Series S had a newer but weaker GPU at launch I knew that the Xbox Series X was going to held back by the S as well. So going forward I just put the funds towards my PC and PS5.
Lol series S is holding back series X, while they are still releasing games for base ps4 and xbox one
I would like to see such a comparison between the ps4 pro and the ps5 !!
Xbox should make a Legacy Console made to last that does everything the original did all the way up to Series X, burn CDs to play your own music in all games, play all on disk games and system link, a dongle that allows OG accessories via a USB 4. Just make something built to last so we can dust it off in 20 yrs and play games that are 40yrs old.
Why would they wanna do that???😂😂😂
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft did this. They have quite a bit of support built for accessories from previous gens. More than Nintendo and Sony!
@@aaroncalderon6928
It would sell, and they could sell it for a premium, at a profit, along with things like Gamepass, peripherals and digital sales.
TBH a dongle containing the required hardware for full backwards compatibility could even be developed / released for Xbox Series systems.
It could plug into the external SSD ports.
Do you seriously expect the tvtvtv Xbox go home drm for all games console stops working without internet connection company to do this? Nowadays they even require a login for disc installs. Every Xbox will turn into a useless brick 20 years down the line.
Ain’t no way that’s ever gonna happen.
Absolutely love the Series S. Superb performance for the price. Really untouchable considering it can be bought for £100+ used
could have been better if it ran the xbox one x code for the games instead of the xbox one s
Got a SSD in my One X since the beginning, swapped it right after buying in 2018, it runs very fast.
What size and model SSD?
The CPU and IO were just much much much slower last-gen, including One X. Very hard to get around that.
John gonna be dissappointed his xbox one x just got beat down by the series S.
Why would he give a shit?
I think the Series S is what a gaming console should be... small, cute and powerful enough to keep you entertained
@@alexv5581 your right it depends on the person, but for most console gamers having a small console is more handy. If you don’t really care about that then buying a gaming pc makes more sense. Personally I don’t like playing on the pc and I prefer to sit downstairs in the living room with my wife.
Powerfull. Can't stop laughing. Dynamic 720p at 2024 with 30 frames. Yeah that gaming in 2005...
As a Series X owner I happily kept my One X & still use it all the time for casual gaming before bedtime if I’m trying to be more comfortable. Definitely still a great piece of technology imo.
As before, the loading time comparison overlooked a proper apples to apples comparison. Of course an HDD will load far slower than a custom SSD. However, you guys could have easily installed a fast SSD inside the One X for a proper comparison.