I'm not the biggest Xbox fan. The 360 was my favorite console and Halo big my favorite game on them. But to be honest this is pretty smart. It's like someone finally understood that convenience sells consoles. The only reason I would choose a console over my pc. Is convenience I could sit at home with my family turn on the TV play something easily pause it easily turn it off and continue with my life.🎉 So easy win for Xbox
@GeorgeNoiseless It's probably because it's a great phrase, but it doesn't really work here. The name "Xbox" loses more of its meaning; however, it's not like everything will cease to be Xbox. Obviously, Xbox will still be its own entity on all the platforms. They have been transitioning (for the last four years) into a more software-selling company rather than just being a hardware-selling company. This makes a lot of sense since they will never beat PlayStation in sales and lose money selling consoles anyway. It's a pretty good transition.
@@Loyal_Tyler Brand dilution 's more of the point here. If you can't fire up brand loyalists into near-religious fervour, you can't milk them properly by selling them their pride back. Well, in the end they don't have a choice in the matter, market conditions have forced them here, much like they are forcing Sony to publish on PC more.
The primary target is the PC market which is a much bigger market to begin with (in 2023 about 4 times as many people played on PC than on PS, XBox and Nintendo combined - only the mobile market is bigger than PC). As for consoles - they don't need to sell their own consoles when they can sell their software (which is the big money making machine btw, not hardware sales) on PS as well. I expect that the next XBox "console" will actually be a lot more akin to a Steamdeck: a portable PC. Speaking about your firestick - just because you don't want that doesn't mean no one will. It's a nice market anyway.
@@jamad-y7m Maybe they can just call it X. I mean there isnt a company right now that is called that right? If I am the richest man in the world I would changed a company name and called it X. Then everyone would love it. But hey im just a unique thinker
Never in a million years I thought Sonic will show up on Nintendo Consoles Never thought God of War would appear on PC Never thought Halo will ever see the light of Playstation We live in Crazy times
I’m disappointed because I really wanted to see how this would push PlayStation to continue to innovate and become better. PlayStation winning does not help consumers. There must be competition
@@stormy6029 You do not look at the Financials of these companies. Microsoft is not Xbox. 😂 Playstation destroys Xbox in profits that why Microsoft leaving the game. Playstation Financials show last quarter even with the failure of Concord, Playstation profits are up 12% from that quarter last year! XBOX make money but its not even on the same Planet as Playstation profits.😂😂😂😂 You have zero idea kid. Look at the earnings.
@stormy6029 Helldivers 2, Astro Bot, Stellar Blade, Silent Hill 2, Rise of the Ronin, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth this year alone. If Playstation has not games why it out sell Xbox 5-1 last quarter? Tell yourself what ever you have too.
@chrism1966 I had Xbox and 360. I gave up at Xbox One with all the bull💩 they were trying to introduce, so I switched to playstation at that point. Not sure if I've missed much on Xbox 🤷🏼
360 was the last console I had until the PS5, was just busy with school then work and didn’t really play games until covid hit. But it’s crazy how Xbox went from being so good to completely irrelevant during that time. Microsoft really can’t help but make everything they touch bad.
@@GLPGamer1 - I've had every Playstation and would have had every Xbox, but for Microsoft messing up. I bought the first Xbox for Knights of the Old Republic. It did not disappoint. That game was probably the best gaming experience of my life. Looking back at it now, some 20 years later, they didn't charge me enough. I bought an Xbox 360. I "nope"d out on Xbox One when they said that I couldn't give away the games I bought on it. I never bought another Xbox since. That was their death blow. It was completely self-inflicted, and they never recovered. Ever since then they have just been stretching it out.
*Xbox seemingly going full third party publisher* Sega fan: Hey I’ve seen this one, this is a classic!!! Xbox fan: what do you mean “you’ve seen it”, it’s brand new
I'd say it is the opposite. Sony needs to keep its hardcore fans and know PC gaming is by far the more hardcore system. They are threatened far more by PC gaming then they ever were from Xbox.
Yes I think we are saying the same thing different ways. Sony's only competition is now PC not other consoles/Xbox. So pricing it at $700 is cheap compared to a PC but expensive in the console market.
The "gamepass on day one" is the new "exclusive" thing that PS had for years. For years Phil said he wanted to gather as much as players everywhere, I really don't know where's the surprise here. For top notch users they have Series X, but they have a different range of users and this could get a lot of new gamers to a "this gen" experience on a budget
Can't believe how hard people tried to gaslight about this. Went from "It's never happening" to "It's happening and that's a good thing" real quick, didn't it.
The current outlook for XBox is bad enough, but my worst fear is that the new XBox handheld won't be a 'separate' device (meaning it won't have it's own games). It'll be a Steam Deck-like device that uses your (next gen XB console) games and it'll be straddled with the same requirements that the Series X/S currently has. It won't be as powerful as the next gen console, but it will REQUIRE developers to make games run on the handheld the same as the console.
I'm not a hardcore gamer by any means, but even I can see that PlayStation gets way better exclusives. There's no compelling reason to get an Xbox unless you really want to play starfield on gamepass or something.
Yeah I'm a casual gamer who plays on PC mostly and sometimes on a console. The only reason I bought a PS5 years ago was for the exclusive titles like TLOU, Demon Souls, etc. Sony has a lot of great exclusives for their console, and Microsoft has seemed keen on just burning money acquiring companies that are already on a downward trajectory. Bethesda being the most notable example. The only thing that would have saved their old console strategy would be to make COD exclusive to Xbox. I don't play it, but it seems to have a massive playerbase still. Xbox just doesn't have anything I care about, and even if I did I could technically find it on PC I guess.
The problem there is that Playstation doesn't have that many games, period. When Playstation tries to advertise the PS5, they consistently have to show off multi-platform titles in order to pad their catalogue. With the good Playstation exclusives coming to PC, there is little reason to want a PS5 specifically. At least the new Xbox store can be accessed on PC and even have many games that allow you to buy once and play on both console and pc.
That is the point, the console itself is only a means to an end. They are saying that not only is there limited reason to buy the console, but there is limited reason to make it. So buy our services that can be used everywhere.
Im glad i got to play darktide a full year before playstation users did. We might not get that many good exclusives but we got darktide and its an amazing game. Sure we had to wait a year to play it but playstation users had to wait even longer relative to pc.
@@om58499 you need the a PlayStation console turned on and connected to another device play the games on that device. What Xbox is allowing you to play those games without the console having to be connected to the other devices
I have no idea why any xbox owner would see this as a bad thing, you still have your 'box' but can play the games for it wherever you are, using almost anything you want. Why are people literally crying?
Microsoft is a services company and a fromer software company. They were never gonna push a hardware platform unless that platform remains market dominant. Why do something you're not good at unless it's making money in spite of that? These are healthy changes.
That's the thing starfield was a bethesda title, bethesda titles are great for modding its why skyrim is still a relevant rpg so it likely was going to have more pc players regardless of it being on Xbox or playstation. And then it came out and was so bad and boring molders up and abandoned it to keep making mods for skyrim.
They are just following their typical microsoft strategy 101 which is software everywhere and it seems to be working for them and besides historically speaking hardware has never been their strong suit like windows Phone, zune, hololens and live example being ofc xbox itself.
Either they massively start discounting all new Xbox console sales or they straight up give Xbox console owners 3-5 years free Ultimate Premium Game Pass Subscriptions.
This honestly breaks my heart. I've been an Xbox console player my whole entire life from the original to the 360 to the Xbox One and then a week ago for my birthday I got the series x but for what now?
I just realized what cloud gaming is. I was shocked the other day when i clicked the cloud gaming app on my s24 and i was able to play any game on game pass. I had no lag whatsoever and it was a good experience. I played cod, fortnite and many other games. It was crazy.
That's the guilty pleasure for me, not being a fan boy of either console. I just enjoy games and gaming. But in that case I've strongly considered switching to PC for gaming hovering over all the console drama!
I have everything and honestly it’s a personal preference thing. Console is easy, PC is great too, but I have everything because I liked having access to any game I wanted to play, and at the rate games are becoming current gen exclusive, I won’t need to upgrade anything for years.
@benstanfill363 I'm with you, I get it. I have everything as well, except for a PC and have access to every console game either or. I have a beautiful 65in Sony and content. Like now I'm playing Atomic heart on Ps5 and and come the 20th I'm jumping back to series x for Stalker 2. I'm stoked for that one!
I think too many people do not understand how businesses work. Being a console builder and trying to market yourself with your console and games. Exclusive to that console is not long. Term profitable, it worked for a while, but now that hardware requirements are higher. The cost of producing the console is higher console was known as being inexpensive and now you've got consoles that have to go for 5 to $600 or more and it starts to price itself out of the market. It was intended for so Xbox is being smart by getting out of that and instead. Just selling the software, then they don't need to worry about also selling you the hardware Consoles in general are just kind of on the way out. Unless people that play on consoles are willing to accept less to maintain the price. Because now, with all these new games having these high requirements, you were going to start needing hardware like gaming pcs to run them and those things are not cheap. They never have been so a console. Being $500 or less is not going to be sustainable for much longer going forward unless it's Nintendo.
Isn't it crazy how they have misunderstood their own strategy... the whole point of buying up all those studios for billions was to make loads of great games and make the xbox console the place to be, it was a long term strategy, those studios had to be given time to create the new games that would make xbox the number 1, but instead they have decided to not give them the time and only think short term. It was a long term strategy that's been thrown of course by short term greed. Xbox could of been on top in maybe 3 years but they've royally screwed that now with this whole strategy.
Except once a studio is sold to another company, it's not able to create anymore. You can't cut off the creative head of a studio and expect his/her workers to take up that slack.They got their money. MS just wanted their IPs to prevent them being on Sony's consoles. Look at Rare. Look at all the studios that MS has shut down, because they can't produce anything.
as someone with plenty of experience in branding and companys communications, its pretty common for us to have no idea what we're actually trying to achieve cause leadership also has no idea what to do or change their mind 3 times per month so then we just get stuck playing catch up with whatever they decide xd
The weird thing is don’t they make the most money off of platform fees not subscriptions. It’s weird that they just don’t care about console shares when they would make more money if more people had Xbox’s
Because hardware manufacturing is getting expensive. MS has MTX to burn in making videogames with all those line up of live service. Which Sony doesn't. Just look at the biggest market in video games, Asian Market. They have console/pc/handhelds, but the one who rake most of the cash are the one who can make games for all/everybody.
@@DevicCypher I’m on Xbox and even I can see that that’s true but I don’t understand why people have to make fun of people that play on Xbox. I think that is fruitless Internet garbage.
@@shaistayshooting I play on Xbox too. Always played PlayStation and Xbox each generation. It’s just the truth that Xbox is failing more than PlayStation
I still think it's a mistake that they started putting their games on PS. Was it really worth it to put Hi-Fi Rush and Sea of Thiefs on PS and undermine the trust of the playerbase? What did the trillion dollars company get from it? Yes, their library is weaker now, but it was getting its momentum. In the next month alone there'll be STALKER 2 and Indiana Jones. Gamepass is also getting its momentum with the addition of COD, even I got it for my PC this year. Like, sure, you can have your games on PC, phone, Firestick, whatever, good idea, but I really see no point in putting them on PS all while PS is activelly working against you by buying out "console exclusive rights" for lots of new games. PS IS NOT gonna allow you to put Gamepass on their platform, just stop this madness.
There is literally 0 reason for a game publisher or game developer to not like this. When you are exclusive to one platform, you are limiting the amount of sales you can get. There was a time, where exclusivity did generate more sales, but were not at that point anymore. That time is long gone.
I just got my 22 year badge on Xbox live. I’m pretty much 50/50 where I play. Half the times on my series X the other half is on my computer. I have started to play on my iphone 16pro. I’m completely fine with the ability to play my games anywhere I want I actually think it’s pretty cool. With that said I do want a powerful console to enjoy on my awesome TV while I sit on my comfy couch. That’s all I ask.
Back in the days Xbox was a system for gamers who like to play with their friends. Then in 2013 they became a system that considered an extension of a TV which gamers dont like. Now they becoming a software system instead of hardware. Wait until they become a social media platform.
I remember the whole talk .... "guys, they didn't spend 69 BILLION DOLLARS, to put their games everywhere, they're going to be exclusives, get an Xbox if you want to play them", it was written on the wall, when you tell your customers they don't need to buy your hundreds of million dollars budgeted games.
"this is an xbox that failed" they really need to stop this failure angle. And go back to making games for FANS, instead of these people who don't exist. Maybe they should go back to... Idk, pleasing their customer base instead of pushing them away again and again and again?
I'm curious as to what games exactly you're referring to or what community Xbox is pushing away? I'm a long time Xbox Fan and I criticized them a lot over the last 8 years at this point. However since 2020, I've felt Xbox has done nothing but please me with a lot of their old franchises. Halo was a fine game at launch. Failed updates however right now it's fine and receiving updates every month. Gears of war E Day had me hyped out of my mind. That looked crazy good. The new fable has me iffy however I'll still try it since I liked the old ones. It had moments where it looked good at times. So I'm just curious like what games is it you'd like to see them make that you think would entice fleets of people to come back?
My only guess for why they are doing all of these announcements and marketing and interviews is to dominate the gaming news heading into the holiday. They showed more of Indy heading into its release and into the holidays, announced a handheld to produce hype around the brand, followed by a deep dove into an upcoming title in South of Midnight, and also reaffirmed their brand attachment to WOW with the 30th anniversary show, then did more interviews about exclusives followed by the new "this is an Xbox" marketing while the iron was hot, and then announced Avowed's preorder plus it being on Battle net. All week this week everyone at work or im my friend group has been talking about Xbox this week, even the people who dont own an xbox. And thats an advantageous position to be in heading into black friday/cyber monday plus holiday shopping coming up.
Even when it sucks and some games you really want are missing, it's still a REALLY good deal for $20. I love not having a console and playing on my PC browser, phone, and quest 2. If you have decent 35mb or up internet speeds you can game at 1080 60 fps pretty much flawlessly. I tried black ops 6 on all my devices and it runs amazing off my home internet and random public wifi
Xbox is taking over bro, what has you excited on the ps? What games they have in the pipeline besides wolverine in 2026? Xbox has more games in Sony top 10 played games then Sony themselves does, every game your looking forward to is an Xbox game, tell me I'm lying.
They should, and save all the money they are wasting on consoles that aren’t selling, and put it all back into the games!!! Xbox is a great publisher, but consoles just aren’t their strong suit!!!
tbh if xbox/microsoft is only expected to sell through their library, that's great in the long run because legit xbox NEEEEEDS to cook more solid games
So....Xbox could not sell consoles to save their lives, nor develop a great library of titles. So instead their new BS is the narrative that "everything is an Xbox"? Ok Phil...... whatever you say.......just sounds like you are the new Sega to me.
If the xbox handheld fills the same niche that the psp did back in the day then it could do well, but at the same time just get a steamdeck at that point.
I will continue to say it, as a massive fan of Xbox, diversifying the platforms games can be played on is a GOOD thing... Consoles should be sold on console quality, not on the games you're forced to & not to play
The benefit of exclusives is you have a game built with the platform as a priority it's easier to optimize for one set of specs than the wide variety of hardware out there
@@tristman8413yeah but nobody likes that truly ? All the ps ppl who wanted halo and all the Xbox ppl who wanted spider man, nobody wants to drop another 500 bucks just jsut for a game or 2, I’m Xbox and idc about ppl playing “our” games, like bro have fun, plus PlayStation might jsut do the same stuff, selling on more consoles and places = more money, and the current ceo of ps talked about fixing the company on the money side
@egordon7543 if you wanted halo then buy an xbox I you want spiderman you buy a playstation or get both. now you just need a playstation as it's now an xbox 😂
Xbox lost me with God of War. The only reason I ever got Xbox was because they have the best controller. That was literally the only selling point to me
Steam is already kind of doing this with their steam OS being allowed on anything that can install linux, but for Microsoft this confirmation just gets them out of consoles completely since now they will just be seen as yet another online store to play games you don't own.
I think one of the biggest strengths the Xbox has compared to PlayStation is that the console allows for games deeper modding capabilities, compared to PlayStation. I am not sure how the technical aspect works, but for example, Skyrim on Xbox allow mods that are more complex than the PlayStation, the modding capabilities that PlayStation offers are extremely rudimentary, I think this is a strength. And I personally would love it if they made VR accessible. I honestly believe VR is the future.
@benjamincurtis1412 none of those are ps games bro all 3rd party times exclusives. And btw I play on both consoles but we not gonna act like Sony has some banger year or something, all niche games , only games Sony made was Astro bot and concord.
If all of these things are an xbox, it must be a nightmare for the devs to target a specific performance. That was the whole advantage of the console: very specific hardware specs that you can target.
The shift for Xbox after buying ABK came hard. More emphasis on cloud, changes to prices and content with game pass, putting their games on rival systems. Word came down from higher up in Microsoft that they needed to make that money make, and if the actual Xbox falls by the side, then so be it. But maybe that is ok. The most hype announcement from Summer Game Fest for me was that the new Doom will be on Ps5.
And it makes sense. They they lost the most important generation which is true. They see it would take way too long to try to compete with PlayStation or Nintendo with consoles though they're going to wear they make their money
I personally think it's pretty cool to have Xbox games on anything and everything, although it kinda sucks they're not pushing innovation in an actual console anymore
The reason is bc of how dev and people have reacted to PS5 Pro. This was their plan but wasn't finished yet. They dropped it early. They had to say something.
Well that’s a bummer. I’m very distant from the “console wars”, I simply went with the Xbox because it was more affordable. I hope this isn’t a sign that it becomes obsolete.
"Xbox" is now like DOOM: If it can run on a old calculator, a smartwatch, a pregnancy-test or even on intestinal bacterias, than that stuff is also an Xbox :D Maybe not the worst Idea.
No mid-gen refresh for X/S because Microsoft haven't even sold through the initial purchase order for the first batch X/S, simple as that. They can't greenlight additional steps until there is a business case for it.
If they are gonna force all digital I want to play native from my hard disk/SSD. Cloud streaming isn't there yet. Plus then you have someway of ownership still (until servers go away)
this seems like a good idea. Xbox's biggest competitor was window's. no way to win the console wars directly, and they have a gateway drug, Minecraft, get them while they are young.
They should aim for the cheapest and the most expensive with their next SKUs. The next 'Series S' should be cheaper than all the Sony boxes and the next 'Series X' should be like $1500+ and be unmatched + a computer.
Sounds like they're just following in SEGA's footsteps. Fall behind on consoles and make the shift to software, which makes sense for microsoft anyways
I'd use the Xbox app on my PC more if the downloads were not so slow compared to my Series X or Steam. I need to look into seeing if there's a way to fix it.
I feel people are missing the forest through the tress on this one. Standard home stay consoles are costing too much money to make and produce, with not enough money being seen back or at least not as fast as said company would like. Everyone points to Nintendo as the golden example, and the problem with that is it doesnt really work for said comparison. The switch isnt your typical home entertainment console, it is a portable handheld console that can be displayed on a TV, but it's not the same as the nintendo consoles that came before. Eventually as with other forms of physical media, consoles and games are going to meet that curve. Microsoft is acknowledging the fact that there is limited reason to buy an Xbox, they arent deluding themselves. And the counter is often "just make more games for the console", but the problem is that said curve is still going to be met eventually. That solution is just kicking a can down a road and is still wasting money by gambling on the console itself and the games limited option for purchase. There is a reason why the majority of people use netflix, hulu, YT tv, and or amazon instead of a cable box. The standard age of consoles and console wars is nearing it's end. Nintendo is out of the game as they arent making standard home consoles anymore, but portable handhelds. We're seeing Microsoft is getting out of the game by having a foot hold in multiple studios and with the use of their subscription service model. The only one left making the typical console is Sony.
You say all of that and then XBOX goes and releases a $600 series X 😂😂😂. The only one still making a traditional console is SONY because they are a hardware company and the market leader.
Yea, the reason people started to stream instead of use cable is because they got their shows on demand and without commercials. Those are 2 HUGE bonuses to dropping cable and getting streaming. Xbox isn't offering anything new, they're offering the same game pass service they've had the whole time, just on more devices. Devices that people don't play games on. This isn't some genius push in to the future. It's them going the way of Sega. A failed console company that has to become a 3rd party publisher.
@@jacobcustard146 Just now seeing this... What do you mean they aren't offering anything new? The expansion Game Pass is that "new thing" that isn't offered from its only console competitors. The new thing With gamepass you can play the games you own almost anywhere and everywhere across multiple different devices. That is how it is like streaming, lack of limitations for where, when, and how you enjoy your content.
Xbox is following in the footsteps of Sega, and their fanboys have nobody to blame for it but themselves. When you don't buy games, thereby not supporting the devs, because you've been conditioned to expect everything in your glorified rental service; and championing massive acquisitions instead of making games, this was always going to be the result. The future of Xbox is not on Xbox, ironically.
This is an Xbox that keeps paper from being blown away by the wind.
Ay if you gonna be a bear
Be a grizzly
This toilet flushing down hundreds of dollars is also an Xbox
@@Dreadeyeknight Polar bears are cooler
I'm not the biggest Xbox fan. The 360 was my favorite console and Halo big my favorite game on them. But to be honest this is pretty smart. It's like someone finally understood that convenience sells consoles. The only reason I would choose a console over my pc. Is convenience I could sit at home with my family turn on the TV play something easily pause it easily turn it off and continue with my life.🎉
So easy win for Xbox
I bet Phill is making these announcements becuase the game awards will announce a lot of games going multiplat.
This never crossed my mind but you may be right
@@swaeshow I honestly can only hope so
Yep 💯 that’s what is going to happen.
If everything is an xbox, nothing is an xbox.
Somehow this is not the top comment? Don't know how that's not the first thing that comes to mind for everyone familiar with the original phrase.
@GeorgeNoiseless It's probably because it's a great phrase, but it doesn't really work here. The name "Xbox" loses more of its meaning; however, it's not like everything will cease to be Xbox. Obviously, Xbox will still be its own entity on all the platforms. They have been transitioning (for the last four years) into a more software-selling company rather than just being a hardware-selling company. This makes a lot of sense since they will never beat PlayStation in sales and lose money selling consoles anyway. It's a pretty good transition.
Look deeper: what is an Xbox? Answer: a msft platform to buy and or play games.
If it’s everywhere then casuals will have options. 😮
@bloodgod992 Ding ding ding we've got a winner and finally someone else who understands lmao. These comments drive me insane
@@Loyal_Tyler Brand dilution 's more of the point here. If you can't fire up brand loyalists into near-religious fervour, you can't milk them properly by selling them their pride back.
Well, in the end they don't have a choice in the matter, market conditions have forced them here, much like they are forcing Sony to publish on PC more.
i have never wanted my firestick to be a video game console. I suspect this will not end the way Microsoft thinks it will.
The primary target is the PC market which is a much bigger market to begin with (in 2023 about 4 times as many people played on PC than on PS, XBox and Nintendo combined - only the mobile market is bigger than PC). As for consoles - they don't need to sell their own consoles when they can sell their software (which is the big money making machine btw, not hardware sales) on PS as well. I expect that the next XBox "console" will actually be a lot more akin to a Steamdeck: a portable PC.
Speaking about your firestick - just because you don't want that doesn't mean no one will. It's a nice market anyway.
It's actually really cool bro. The times of bad latency and low internet are over. Cloud streaming is gold now
What do you mean? Stadia was a great success!
It ends with Microsoft making buckets of cash which is what they want.
@@TheParaxore stadia didnt work out so well when they did this same thing.
They call it Xbox because it’s no longer a box
They call it Xbox, because of DirectX
More like ex box
@@jamad-y7m
Maybe they can just call it X. I mean there isnt a company right now that is called that right? If I am the richest man in the world I would changed a company name and called it X. Then everyone would love it. But hey im just a unique thinker
Something like "find the value of X" haha
Never in a million years I thought Sonic will show up on Nintendo Consoles
Never thought God of War would appear on PC
Never thought Halo will ever see the light of Playstation
We live in Crazy times
Bruh, Sonic was already on Wii in 2007...
Never thought a Horizon game(a first party PlayStation series) would launch on Nintendo.
Never thought Crash and Spyro would be under the Xbox banner.
GoW being on PC isn't as big or as bad as SONIC or NINTENDO. PC has no mascot.
Sonic has been on Nintendo consoles for over 20 years
@@isaiahdismuke1472 Lego made them make it for Nintendo. Quit being a disingenuous clown. Xbox is full third party. Cry more.
I’m disappointed because I really wanted to see how this would push PlayStation to continue to innovate and become better. PlayStation winning does not help consumers. There must be competition
Sony didn't win jack shit. Xbox is way more profitable
@@stormy6029 atp they are both winning as microsoft seems to want their games on all platforms including playstation
@@stormy6029 You do not look at the Financials of these companies. Microsoft is not Xbox. 😂 Playstation destroys Xbox in profits that why Microsoft leaving the game. Playstation Financials show last quarter even with the failure of Concord, Playstation profits are up 12% from that quarter last year! XBOX make money but its not even on the same Planet as Playstation profits.😂😂😂😂 You have zero idea kid. Look at the earnings.
@@blackrahk2037 ps has no games
@stormy6029 Helldivers 2, Astro Bot, Stellar Blade, Silent Hill 2, Rise of the Ronin, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth this year alone. If Playstation has not games why it out sell Xbox 5-1 last quarter? Tell yourself what ever you have too.
Any 360 era gamers just wanna throw up at the last decade + from Microsoft.
@chrism1966 I had Xbox and 360. I gave up at Xbox One with all the bull💩 they were trying to introduce, so I switched to playstation at that point. Not sure if I've missed much on Xbox 🤷🏼
Why would I?
360 was the last console I had until the PS5, was just busy with school then work and didn’t really play games until covid hit. But it’s crazy how Xbox went from being so good to completely irrelevant during that time.
Microsoft really can’t help but make everything they touch bad.
@ilikeshiba i don't see how it's irrelevant. To each their own
@@GLPGamer1 - I've had every Playstation and would have had every Xbox, but for Microsoft messing up.
I bought the first Xbox for Knights of the Old Republic. It did not disappoint. That game was probably the best gaming experience of my life. Looking back at it now, some 20 years later, they didn't charge me enough.
I bought an Xbox 360. I "nope"d out on Xbox One when they said that I couldn't give away the games I bought on it. I never bought another Xbox since.
That was their death blow. It was completely self-inflicted, and they never recovered. Ever since then they have just been stretching it out.
*Xbox seemingly going full third party publisher*
Sega fan: Hey I’ve seen this one, this is a classic!!!
Xbox fan: what do you mean “you’ve seen it”, it’s brand new
Watched BTTF just last week.
Just posted the same
So that means I have both PS5 and Xbox all along 😮
"You've been retroactively connected captain"
You have a PS5 that will eventually have ALL Xbox games as well as exclusives.
No point in staying with the Xbox.
Microsoft wants to go all 'Netflix'
This is why the PS5 Pro is $700. Zero competition.
I'd say it is the opposite. Sony needs to keep its hardcore fans and know PC gaming is by far the more hardcore system. They are threatened far more by PC gaming then they ever were from Xbox.
And its actually selling well in Japan with 1st week sales
Yes I think we are saying the same thing different ways. Sony's only competition is now PC not other consoles/Xbox. So pricing it at $700 is cheap compared to a PC but expensive in the console market.
People will always have demand for consoles. PC gaming is too expensive and restrictive. There is also no physical media for PC players
@@danilthorstensson8902 saying pc is restrictive is crazy lol
The "gamepass on day one" is the new "exclusive" thing that PS had for years. For years Phil said he wanted to gather as much as players everywhere, I really don't know where's the surprise here. For top notch users they have Series X, but they have a different range of users and this could get a lot of new gamers to a "this gen" experience on a budget
Can't believe how hard people tried to gaslight about this. Went from "It's never happening" to "It's happening and that's a good thing" real quick, didn't it.
Sounds just like Apple fans
Exactly this! I’m surprised more people aren’t calling this out. The amount of cope and rationalising in the Xbox community is insane.
Im an Xbox!
Literally me ⚪️
The current outlook for XBox is bad enough, but my worst fear is that the new XBox handheld won't be a 'separate' device (meaning it won't have it's own games). It'll be a Steam Deck-like device that uses your (next gen XB console) games and it'll be straddled with the same requirements that the Series X/S currently has. It won't be as powerful as the next gen console, but it will REQUIRE developers to make games run on the handheld the same as the console.
It’ll be more like a PlayStation Portal than a PlayStation Portable
Kicked the bucket,
Shuffled off this mortal coil,
Run down the curtain and joined the choir invisible.
This is an X-Box.
Man I keep wondering how many gimmicks can these companies come up with just to avoid building great games.
I'm not a hardcore gamer by any means, but even I can see that PlayStation gets way better exclusives. There's no compelling reason to get an Xbox unless you really want to play starfield on gamepass or something.
Yeah I'm a casual gamer who plays on PC mostly and sometimes on a console. The only reason I bought a PS5 years ago was for the exclusive titles like TLOU, Demon Souls, etc. Sony has a lot of great exclusives for their console, and Microsoft has seemed keen on just burning money acquiring companies that are already on a downward trajectory. Bethesda being the most notable example. The only thing that would have saved their old console strategy would be to make COD exclusive to Xbox. I don't play it, but it seems to have a massive playerbase still. Xbox just doesn't have anything I care about, and even if I did I could technically find it on PC I guess.
The problem there is that Playstation doesn't have that many games, period. When Playstation tries to advertise the PS5, they consistently have to show off multi-platform titles in order to pad their catalogue.
With the good Playstation exclusives coming to PC, there is little reason to want a PS5 specifically. At least the new Xbox store can be accessed on PC and even have many games that allow you to buy once and play on both console and pc.
That is the point, the console itself is only a means to an end. They are saying that not only is there limited reason to buy the console, but there is limited reason to make it. So buy our services that can be used everywhere.
PlayStation has been very quiet with exclusives this gen. Most if not all are going to pc anyway.
Im glad i got to play darktide a full year before playstation users did. We might not get that many good exclusives but we got darktide and its an amazing game. Sure we had to wait a year to play it but playstation users had to wait even longer relative to pc.
I’ve been with Xbox from the very beginning so I’m up for anything that improves the system or the software I’m not fussed go for it
Just threw my xbox out the window
Rip xbots.
@@cosmancho2959 Console warrior in 2024; what a sad existence.
@fordgtguy you're right, I should've said this back in 2020
Imagine having your self worth depending on an entertainment electronics Brand.
liar
Been gaming since early 90s 2023 was the year i made a shift and stopped caring about gaming
Who is to say if this will stick as well.... let's see how this all looks this time next year.
Its been looking like this for the past 4 years what are you smoking.
Sony has been doing this for YEARS with Playstation NOW. You can stream to PC or Mobile since PS4 days. Part of PS+ no extra cost
Not the same
@@jamieoneill4960how is it not the same?
@@om58499 you need the a PlayStation console turned on and connected to another device play the games on that device. What Xbox is allowing you to play those games without the console having to be connected to the other
devices
Well in the 90s I never thought I'd see Sonic on a Nintendo, but there you go.
Damn that suck, i have so many "Xboxes" in my house and I'm not even interested in using them
every player wins with only one console and no exclusives
They can redefine it however they want. I define it as: "Something I will never buy." Same as the PS5 Pro.
I have no idea why any xbox owner would see this as a bad thing, you still have your 'box' but can play the games for it wherever you are, using almost anything you want.
Why are people literally crying?
Microsoft is a services company and a fromer software company. They were never gonna push a hardware platform unless that platform remains market dominant. Why do something you're not good at unless it's making money in spite of that? These are healthy changes.
The problem is, what will xbox service be worth if steam start working on everything.
This is why i am selling my xbox this Xmas. Going to pc and my emulation etc.
This has been their stance for a couple years. People just aren't used to Xbox doing a marketing campaign.
Starfield was never that good to make someone sell their ps5 for an xbox
Starfield was never good. I took out all those other words you had for some reason.
That's the thing starfield was a bethesda title, bethesda titles are great for modding its why skyrim is still a relevant rpg so it likely was going to have more pc players regardless of it being on Xbox or playstation. And then it came out and was so bad and boring molders up and abandoned it to keep making mods for skyrim.
They are just following their typical microsoft strategy 101 which is software everywhere and it seems to be working for them and besides historically speaking hardware has never been their strong suit like windows Phone, zune, hololens and live example being ofc xbox itself.
Nothing new Xbox cloud streaming has been a thing for years now. Why do people keep thinking about this being brand new? 😂
Microsoft announced what they have been already doing for afew years and the internet goes crazy😂
Either they massively start discounting all new Xbox console sales or they straight up give Xbox console owners 3-5 years free Ultimate Premium Game Pass Subscriptions.
This honestly breaks my heart. I've been an Xbox console player my whole entire life from the original to the 360 to the Xbox One and then a week ago for my birthday I got the series x but for what now?
I just realized what cloud gaming is. I was shocked the other day when i clicked the cloud gaming app on my s24 and i was able to play any game on game pass. I had no lag whatsoever and it was a good experience.
I played cod, fortnite and many other games. It was crazy.
That's the guilty pleasure for me, not being a fan boy of either console. I just enjoy games and gaming. But in that case I've strongly considered switching to PC for gaming hovering over all the console drama!
I have everything and honestly it’s a personal preference thing. Console is easy, PC is great too, but I have everything because I liked having access to any game I wanted to play, and at the rate games are becoming current gen exclusive, I won’t need to upgrade anything for years.
@benstanfill363 I'm with you, I get it. I have everything as well, except for a PC and have access to every console game either or. I have a beautiful 65in Sony and content. Like now I'm playing Atomic heart on Ps5 and and come the 20th I'm jumping back to series x for Stalker 2. I'm stoked for that one!
I think too many people do not understand how businesses work. Being a console builder and trying to market yourself with your console and games. Exclusive to that console is not long. Term profitable, it worked for a while, but now that hardware requirements are higher. The cost of producing the console is higher console was known as being inexpensive and now you've got consoles that have to go for 5 to $600 or more and it starts to price itself out of the market. It was intended for so Xbox is being smart by getting out of that and instead. Just selling the software, then they don't need to worry about also selling you the hardware Consoles in general are just kind of on the way out. Unless people that play on consoles are willing to accept less to maintain the price. Because now, with all these new games having these high requirements, you were going to start needing hardware like gaming pcs to run them and those things are not cheap. They never have been so a console. Being $500 or less is not going to be sustainable for much longer going forward unless it's Nintendo.
Isn't it crazy how they have misunderstood their own strategy... the whole point of buying up all those studios for billions was to make loads of great games and make the xbox console the place to be, it was a long term strategy, those studios had to be given time to create the new games that would make xbox the number 1, but instead they have decided to not give them the time and only think short term. It was a long term strategy that's been thrown of course by short term greed. Xbox could of been on top in maybe 3 years but they've royally screwed that now with this whole strategy.
Except once a studio is sold to another company, it's not able to create anymore. You can't cut off the creative head of a studio and expect his/her workers to take up that slack.They got their money. MS just wanted their IPs to prevent them being on Sony's consoles. Look at Rare. Look at all the studios that MS has shut down, because they can't produce anything.
as someone with plenty of experience in branding and companys communications, its pretty common for us to have no idea what we're actually trying to achieve cause leadership also has no idea what to do or change their mind 3 times per month
so then we just get stuck playing catch up with whatever they decide xd
First step was finally putting all their games on steam and pc in general. Now this is the continuation
The bad part for gamers is the monopoly just got all their hotels!
Honestly i really could care less what games come out on what. I just want to be able to play with my friends.
How is xbox changing? They been saying this for years now, Is just that y'all don't wanna listen.
The Xbox was the friends we made along the way
Those Xbox ad thumbnails look like the old Ninja Turtle movie posters.
The weird thing is don’t they make the most money off of platform fees not subscriptions. It’s weird that they just don’t care about console shares when they would make more money if more people had Xbox’s
They saw how badly people dickride the PS5 Pro despite being a terrible deal. You can't compete with that unfortunately.(Said by a PS user)
Yeah that 30% share is a big amount of free money. And PlayStation accounts for 75% of COD BO sales. Meanwhile XBOX paid 69BN for it.
Because hardware manufacturing is getting expensive. MS has MTX to burn in making videogames with all those line up of live service. Which Sony doesn't.
Just look at the biggest market in video games, Asian Market. They have console/pc/handhelds, but the one who rake most of the cash are the one who can make games for all/everybody.
Xbox is definitely failing. They keep making bad decision after bad decision.
Sony is following them too.
@ they’re in better shape than Xbox
@@DevicCypher I’m on Xbox and even I can see that that’s true but I don’t understand why people have to make fun of people that play on Xbox. I think that is fruitless Internet garbage.
@@shaistayshooting I play on Xbox too. Always played PlayStation and Xbox each generation. It’s just the truth that Xbox is failing more than PlayStation
I still think it's a mistake that they started putting their games on PS. Was it really worth it to put Hi-Fi Rush and Sea of Thiefs on PS and undermine the trust of the playerbase? What did the trillion dollars company get from it?
Yes, their library is weaker now, but it was getting its momentum. In the next month alone there'll be STALKER 2 and Indiana Jones. Gamepass is also getting its momentum with the addition of COD, even I got it for my PC this year. Like, sure, you can have your games on PC, phone, Firestick, whatever, good idea, but I really see no point in putting them on PS all while PS is activelly working against you by buying out "console exclusive rights" for lots of new games. PS IS NOT gonna allow you to put Gamepass on their platform, just stop this madness.
Xbox already throw the towel!
There’s no way that game companies under the publisher Microsoft is 100% on board with this.
Why would they care? If it means they can make more money and sell more copies. I can’t see how that isn’t just a win.
There is literally 0 reason for a game publisher or game developer to not like this. When you are exclusive to one platform, you are limiting the amount of sales you can get. There was a time, where exclusivity did generate more sales, but were not at that point anymore. That time is long gone.
I don't care about them doing this, but when sparking zero has only issues on Xbox and not PC that's not right. They need to get their sht together
I just got my 22 year badge on Xbox live. I’m pretty much 50/50 where I play. Half the times on my series X the other half is on my computer. I have started to play on my iphone 16pro. I’m completely fine with the ability to play my games anywhere I want I actually think it’s pretty cool.
With that said I do want a powerful console to enjoy on my awesome TV while I sit on my comfy couch. That’s all I ask.
Back in the days Xbox was a system for gamers who like to play with their friends. Then in 2013 they became a system that considered an extension of a TV which gamers dont like. Now they becoming a software system instead of hardware. Wait until they become a social media platform.
They completely lost the plot with. Xbone and never recovered.
I remember the whole talk .... "guys, they didn't spend 69 BILLION DOLLARS, to put their games everywhere, they're going to be exclusives, get an Xbox if you want to play them", it was written on the wall, when you tell your customers they don't need to buy your hundreds of million dollars budgeted games.
Cool. I hope the upcoming exclusives deliver too
"this is an xbox that failed" they really need to stop this failure angle. And go back to making games for FANS, instead of these people who don't exist.
Maybe they should go back to... Idk, pleasing their customer base instead of pushing them away again and again and again?
I'm curious as to what games exactly you're referring to or what community Xbox is pushing away? I'm a long time Xbox Fan and I criticized them a lot over the last 8 years at this point. However since 2020, I've felt Xbox has done nothing but please me with a lot of their old franchises. Halo was a fine game at launch. Failed updates however right now it's fine and receiving updates every month. Gears of war E Day had me hyped out of my mind. That looked crazy good. The new fable has me iffy however I'll still try it since I liked the old ones. It had moments where it looked good at times. So I'm just curious like what games is it you'd like to see them make that you think would entice fleets of people to come back?
My only guess for why they are doing all of these announcements and marketing and interviews is to dominate the gaming news heading into the holiday. They showed more of Indy heading into its release and into the holidays, announced a handheld to produce hype around the brand, followed by a deep dove into an upcoming title in South of Midnight, and also reaffirmed their brand attachment to WOW with the 30th anniversary show, then did more interviews about exclusives followed by the new "this is an Xbox" marketing while the iron was hot, and then announced Avowed's preorder plus it being on Battle net. All week this week everyone at work or im my friend group has been talking about Xbox this week, even the people who dont own an xbox. And thats an advantageous position to be in heading into black friday/cyber monday plus holiday shopping coming up.
No shit.. no one is surprised about this news. Except for the xbox fanatics who kept denying that this was going to happen...🎉 surprise 😂😂😂
If they could link steam and gamepass together thta shit would go hard
Even when it sucks and some games you really want are missing, it's still a REALLY good deal for $20. I love not having a console and playing on my PC browser, phone, and quest 2. If you have decent 35mb or up internet speeds you can game at 1080 60 fps pretty much flawlessly. I tried black ops 6 on all my devices and it runs amazing off my home internet and random public wifi
So basically Xbox going the same way Sega Genesis did
Xbox is taking over bro, what has you excited on the ps? What games they have in the pipeline besides wolverine in 2026? Xbox has more games in Sony top 10 played games then Sony themselves does, every game your looking forward to is an Xbox game, tell me I'm lying.
There were plenty of sega consoles after the genesis
The genesis???
@@Flyeaglesfly215Bruh what is this cope
They should, and save all the money they are wasting on consoles that aren’t selling, and put it all back into the games!!! Xbox is a great publisher, but consoles just aren’t their strong suit!!!
tbh if xbox/microsoft is only expected to sell through their library, that's great in the long run because legit xbox NEEEEEDS to cook more solid games
„No Patrick, Mayonnaise is not an Xbox“
Not an Xbox fan but the handheld sounds interesting I’d get that
So....Xbox could not sell consoles to save their lives, nor develop a great library of titles. So instead their new BS is the narrative that "everything is an Xbox"? Ok Phil...... whatever you say.......just sounds like you are the new Sega to me.
If the xbox handheld fills the same niche that the psp did back in the day then it could do well, but at the same time just get a steamdeck at that point.
I will continue to say it, as a massive fan of Xbox, diversifying the platforms games can be played on is a GOOD thing... Consoles should be sold on console quality, not on the games you're forced to & not to play
Consoles have always been sold on exclusives its literally how it work xbox just couldn't compete that's all
The benefit of exclusives is you have a game built with the platform as a priority it's easier to optimize for one set of specs than the wide variety of hardware out there
@@weplayvrgamesthis seems like such a lame reason
@@tristman8413yeah but nobody likes that truly ? All the ps ppl who wanted halo and all the Xbox ppl who wanted spider man, nobody wants to drop another 500 bucks just jsut for a game or 2, I’m Xbox and idc about ppl playing “our” games, like bro have fun, plus PlayStation might jsut do the same stuff, selling on more consoles and places = more money, and the current ceo of ps talked about fixing the company on the money side
@egordon7543 if you wanted halo then buy an xbox I you want spiderman you buy a playstation or get both. now you just need a playstation as it's now an xbox 😂
I’m a gamer, this makes me happy, it means I’m going to have £1000 spare to spend on my pc or other hardware that I’ll actually use.
They are advertising game pass really so werid the most of you cant see that
So like a super sega
It's a reverse of the "There's no such thing as a Nintendo" campaign.
Xbox lost me with God of War. The only reason I ever got Xbox was because they have the best controller. That was literally the only selling point to me
Imagine buying a games console for the controller and not the games 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Steam is already kind of doing this with their steam OS being allowed on anything that can install linux, but for Microsoft this confirmation just gets them out of consoles completely since now they will just be seen as yet another online store to play games you don't own.
☠️ 💀.... a dumpster fire is an Xbox
I think one of the biggest strengths the Xbox has compared to PlayStation is that the console allows for games deeper modding capabilities, compared to PlayStation. I am not sure how the technical aspect works, but for example, Skyrim on Xbox allow mods that are more complex than the PlayStation, the modding capabilities that PlayStation offers are extremely rudimentary, I think this is a strength.
And I personally would love it if they made VR accessible. I honestly believe VR is the future.
This is an Xbox!
PlayStation 5
Yessir!!! Only thing to look forward to on PS5 is Xbox games which is insane
@@Flyeaglesfly215Stella Blade. Black Myth. FF7rebirth. Rise or Ronin. DS2. Ghost of Yotei. Yeah all XBOX games.
@@Flyeaglesfly215what xbox games? Old halo and gears games?
@benjamincurtis1412 none of those are ps games bro all 3rd party times exclusives. And btw I play on both consoles but we not gonna act like Sony has some banger year or something, all niche games , only games Sony made was Astro bot and concord.
@@Ben.B.Benjamin lol mans said stellar blade. Nah.
If all of these things are an xbox, it must be a nightmare for the devs to target a specific performance. That was the whole advantage of the console: very specific hardware specs that you can target.
The shift for Xbox after buying ABK came hard. More emphasis on cloud, changes to prices and content with game pass, putting their games on rival systems. Word came down from higher up in Microsoft that they needed to make that money make, and if the actual Xbox falls by the side, then so be it.
But maybe that is ok. The most hype announcement from Summer Game Fest for me was that the new Doom will be on Ps5.
And it makes sense. They they lost the most important generation which is true. They see it would take way too long to try to compete with PlayStation or Nintendo with consoles though they're going to wear they make their money
I personally think it's pretty cool to have Xbox games on anything and everything, although it kinda sucks they're not pushing innovation in an actual console anymore
The reason is bc of how dev and people have reacted to PS5 Pro. This was their plan but wasn't finished yet. They dropped it early. They had to say something.
Well that’s a bummer. I’m very distant from the “console wars”, I simply went with the Xbox because it was more affordable. I hope this isn’t a sign that it becomes obsolete.
"Xbox" is now like DOOM: If it can run on a old calculator, a smartwatch, a pregnancy-test or even on intestinal bacterias, than that stuff is also an Xbox :D
Maybe not the worst Idea.
No mid-gen refresh for X/S because Microsoft haven't even sold through the initial purchase order for the first batch X/S, simple as that. They can't greenlight additional steps until there is a business case for it.
This move is brilliant, I would have never bought a xbox but since I have a gaming PC. Why not
If they are gonna force all digital I want to play native from my hard disk/SSD. Cloud streaming isn't there yet. Plus then you have someway of ownership still (until servers go away)
this seems like a good idea. Xbox's biggest competitor was window's. no way to win the console wars directly, and they have a gateway drug, Minecraft, get them while they are young.
What if Xbox plan to use GTA6 to sell xcloud? It is much cheaper than a console and is good enough for most gamer.
They should aim for the cheapest and the most expensive with their next SKUs.
The next 'Series S' should be cheaper than all the Sony boxes and the next 'Series X' should be like $1500+ and be unmatched + a computer.
Sounds like they're just following in SEGA's footsteps. Fall behind on consoles and make the shift to software, which makes sense for microsoft anyways
Ironically had an ad for a gaming pc, i think its time i move
I'd use the Xbox app on my PC more if the downloads were not so slow compared to my Series X or Steam. I need to look into seeing if there's a way to fix it.
I feel people are missing the forest through the tress on this one. Standard home stay consoles are costing too much money to make and produce, with not enough money being seen back or at least not as fast as said company would like. Everyone points to Nintendo as the golden example, and the problem with that is it doesnt really work for said comparison. The switch isnt your typical home entertainment console, it is a portable handheld console that can be displayed on a TV, but it's not the same as the nintendo consoles that came before. Eventually as with other forms of physical media, consoles and games are going to meet that curve. Microsoft is acknowledging the fact that there is limited reason to buy an Xbox, they arent deluding themselves. And the counter is often "just make more games for the console", but the problem is that said curve is still going to be met eventually. That solution is just kicking a can down a road and is still wasting money by gambling on the console itself and the games limited option for purchase. There is a reason why the majority of people use netflix, hulu, YT tv, and or amazon instead of a cable box. The standard age of consoles and console wars is nearing it's end.
Nintendo is out of the game as they arent making standard home consoles anymore, but portable handhelds. We're seeing Microsoft is getting out of the game by having a foot hold in multiple studios and with the use of their subscription service model. The only one left making the typical console is Sony.
You say all of that and then XBOX goes and releases a $600 series X 😂😂😂.
The only one still making a traditional console is SONY because they are a hardware company and the market leader.
Yea, the reason people started to stream instead of use cable is because they got their shows on demand and without commercials. Those are 2 HUGE bonuses to dropping cable and getting streaming. Xbox isn't offering anything new, they're offering the same game pass service they've had the whole time, just on more devices. Devices that people don't play games on. This isn't some genius push in to the future. It's them going the way of Sega. A failed console company that has to become a 3rd party publisher.
@@jacobcustard146 Just now seeing this... What do you mean they aren't offering anything new? The expansion Game Pass is that "new thing" that isn't offered from its only console competitors. The new thing With gamepass you can play the games you own almost anywhere and everywhere across multiple different devices.
That is how it is like streaming, lack of limitations for where, when, and how you enjoy your content.
So basically Xbox is 💀.
No point in buying a future Microsoft Gaming device. So now they will have no compelling games or gaming systems
Maybe I’m wrong, but wouldn’t turning an Xbox into a fully fledged PC and making it highly customisable would be a better strategy?
then why not just get a PC? lmao
They can make as many Xboxes as they want. If there's no games for it, I'd be buying 20 paperweights for my house...
Is my PlayStation an Xbox?
Xbox is following in the footsteps of Sega, and their fanboys have nobody to blame for it but themselves.
When you don't buy games, thereby not supporting the devs, because you've been conditioned to expect everything in your glorified rental service; and championing massive acquisitions instead of making games, this was always going to be the result.
The future of Xbox is not on Xbox, ironically.