😂 I love that y'all did this, it gives even more context to how really angry Ren was when he did Kujo Beat Down. For context, at this point, Ren had very recently become a worldwide viral artist, and literally everything he dropped following Hi Ren was 🔥, and the Premieres were events in their own right, with thousands of people posting up to chat with Ren during each drop. Ren reactions were dropping within the hour following each Premiere. The insane momentum of this hidden gem of talent with a compelling backstory and a positive message, an artist who'd been fighting to be heard, and had the skill, drive, and message to captivate a tremendous following. Ren had just passed his million sub marker, and was well on his way to his first #1 album, Sick Boi, with a ride or die fanbase built through word of mouth - no concerts due to his health issues, no corporate giant to push him out there, no corporate-created image of what analytics thinks an "artist" should be. King Dotta's diss came out of left field. There was nothing that provoked it, in fact most people only knew it happened because Ren publicly addressed it. We'd never seen anything other than this incredible artist that just wants to get his music and message out while fighting a debilitating condition, so there was a lot of nervous excitement to see how he'd do. The vast majority of his audience didn't know what battle rap really was, other than being really aggressive and far outside of what we'd ever seen from Ren. When Ren came through and did really well with the diss part, everyone was amazed and were charged up because our guy showed up, stepped to the mark, and killed it. But when he flipped it, we saw the Ren we all knew again, and we were all reminded of why we all loved Ren and what he's doing. There are many reactions to Ren's diss out there where this change in energy brought reactors to literal tears. It was a reminder that we all wanted something more positive in this world, and that we didn't necessarily have to tear down to build up. Its wild y'all started your Ren journey with Kujo Beat Down, but I've lived every second of the ride. Shout out TDIP, Shout out Renegades. Much respect & love out to everyone that's a part of this. 🫡❤️
Great job giving them a breakdown DB! This truly did come out of nowhere for the entire community AND Ren. Ren had never said anything bad about King Dotta nor had known his work PRIOR to King Dotta coming out with this track, but Ren realised Dotta's potential and decided to use the opportunity to raise himself AND Dotta up in a single track. That's true diss culture right there. They might have had 'beef', but they handled it like gentlemen and came to become good friends in the end. As DB stated, it's why the KujoBeats situation is so frustrating and almost incomprehensible to everyone. Ren, even to his critics and 'enemies', is such a generous, giving, and lifting person. He acknowledges when he's made mistakes and listens to criticism and then uses that as fuel to do better, be better, increase his creativity and craft, and put everyone else on a pedestal. Whatever the situation was, doesn't matter. Ren and Dotta handled it like real men and they are friends. Can't say the same for Kujo. Bollocks on Kujo.
Dotta was commenting on reactors pages asking why they were giving ren the up and ignoring him. Knox Hill responded to a dotta diss first. If I remember corrrectly, they had 2 each in that battle.
Just before the pickup, said I played you at your game now welcome to mine. Dotta did a diss and that is his world. Ren then said welcome to mine. REN’s world is lifting up people. So that is what he did.
Nice one fellas. These came out about 2 months before Ren got the No1 album. Both Dotta and The Michelle Show are now actually Ren fans and have done their own reactions to him.
I would like to say that Ren switching gears and giving Dotta props was technically AFTER the diss. When he said "I played you at your game, now welcome to mine," to me, it was really like "that part's over; now here's YOUR challenge -- be a better person." Lol. Like, what are you going to do with this attention now?
I think Ren responded because he was bored. He was in Canada getting treatment at the time and he was sitting around alot at the clinic with IV's stuck in his arm. Dotta was dissing anyone who was climbing in subs on YT trying to get more for himself. Ren did what Ren always does - he flipped it back on Dotta by killing him with kindness. You guys both know what it looks like when Ren is really PO'd and we've only seen that happen once. 🤣 Thanks for the double feature!
Gentlemen, yall did this proper by including context, thank you!! 😊 The funniest part i think is that, the story goes, Dotta was eating cake when he first heard Ren's rebuttal. 😂 Ren ❤ Dotta ❤
Dotta went at Knox Hill and Knox ignored him and then Dotta started showing up in comments on Ren's music and talking about Ren so Ren gave Dotta the attention that Dotta was looking for. After Dotta dropped this song and couldn't resist throwing more shots at Knox Hill then Knox responded and dropped Stan Remix 2 hours after this song was released and then 24 hours later Knox dropped Patiently Waiting Remix. You guys should check out Dotta's song "Crown" which is his first diss to Knox and then the tracks from Knox. Knox came up in battle rap. He's nasty at battling
@@thedreadinitpodcastKnox and Dotta really don't like each other and they say some crazy stuff....lol. I guess Dotta ended up replying to 2 diss tracks from Knox but it was over a month after Knox had put out his responses to Dotta so by that time no one really cared to go back and pay attention. Dotta recently went after Black Pegasus and so they had 3 rounds of diss tracks. Dotta has gone after others that won't respond cuz he's trying to punch up to artists that are way to big to be bothered to respond (recently he went after Tom MacDonald who has close to 5 million subs on yt.... Tom definitely won't respond, they don't even know each other...lol)
THIS is what made the Kujo Beat Down SO massive. It even had the Dotta reference in there. But there was no sweet Ren twist at the end of the Brat Down. Some of us were waiting for it. Some of us were shocked when it didn't come. And we were shocked that we didn't mind a bit.
Ren doesn't like division, he favors unity... so he played the battle rap game but then turned it around and gave Dotta a spotlight, in line with his personal values
I think Ren agreed to this battle for a few specific reasons: 1) to test his pen game, 2) to have some fun, 3) to make points about the cultural divides that he takes issues with. After the battle, Dotta gave Ren a lot of respect and has done some Ren reactions - they are great! As for how it started, Dotta was stirring up a lot of drama in comment sections and the Michelle Show was pouring fuel on the fire 🔥 Knox Hill was trying to just ignore it all, since he just thinks Dotta was klout chasing, but when Knox decided to enter the ring, he threw some punches at Dotta 💥 🥊 After which, Ren asked Knox, “how do you kill somebody who is already dead?” 😹 So that explains the intro. I think Ren was hoping Dotta would come after him a little harder, but as you pointed out, there wasn’t bad blood between them - just a battle rap sparring match. MichelleShow is a total hater, but Ren has even managed to win him over. I would HIGHLY recommend watching MichelleShow’s reaction to Ren Sick Boi 😹😹😹 It’s a classic.
Michelle is great! He is a hater but a lot of it is purely for comedy value. If he's hating on someone but he's impressed, he'll be the first to say it - it's just he doesn't hold back if he really doesn't like something whilst the majority of reaction channels just don't post the videos of stuff they don't like. He's clearly become a fan of BP and started to understand the Ren hype once he got more of a grasp over what he's about rather than just hearing the opening couple minutes of Hi-Ren
I believe Ren wanted two things by doing this. First, he'd never done battle rap and wanted to try and second, and more importantly I think, he wanted to address the racial division Dotta threw at him. Another point, in the lead up to Ren's track, his fans were tearing up Dotta's skills and music and I think Ren recognised, as you guys did, that Dotta isn't bad. Ren adores good rapping and I can imagine him reading some of his own fans comments calling Dotta trash and Ren just shaking his head.
Soooo happy to listen to Brits react to this - none of the Yanks get 'you are shite' - coz they don't know it as an alternative to shit. They all tjink he's saying shy or just don't know - and so miss yet another gag line. SHITE SHITE SHITE! Yay! 😊❤
Love that you were neutral 😊Ren was killing 3 birds with one stone. He did the diss battle rap style and had some good bars and punchlines directly to and about Dotta. Then he did his "Rising Tides Lifts all Ships" philosophy. Then, very important to Ren, he got out a message that he's very passionate about. Racism, the division in society and the loss of community. ❤😊
remember the line in kujo beat down? 'I went easy on the Dotta, he's a friend, it's zen.' Ren wanted the test his pen and told dotta to come on then lol there's a full back story to this that the more devote renegades could go into detail about.
I think Ren didn't have enough anger to go hard at Dotta, especially since it was clear he was just trying to boost his channel, Rens too nice. Listen to Knox Hills diss to Dotta on an Eminem beat it was sick ❤
@@Threadbow you mean when Dotta pretended Knox had dissed him, and Knox not only didn't mention Dotta but didn't even know he existed? Funny how even Rens clout didn't get Dotty a following, 'cause he is less than mid, has a terrible attitude, and his only content is hate bait aimed at people with actual careers.
It might be odd for them to compliment each other, but Ren is unapologetically Ren. I wouldn't want him any other way. By the way, he's wearing a shirt with Tokyo on it. One word for love in Japanese, is ren. They're good friends now. I love that.
This was an agreed on battle between Ren and Dotta. The catalyst to this is when Knox Hill Dropped his Killshot Remix. In it there was the line that was like Yatta doda or something like that. Michell Show kinda spawned the misunderstanding by giving it the notion of dissing Dotta. Dotta had been trying to get a battle rap with Knox and several others for a while. So Dotta then releases Crown(Knox Hill Diss). Knox has no idea about this or who he even is. This annoys dotta. And he spergs out about Knox dissing him then wont respond to his diss. Ren saw this and decided to poke the bear (as he sad in a live stream) because he knew that Dotta would respond to it and challenge him. As expected. So Ren agrees to do a battle rap, saying to drop whenever he was ready, but did ask for it to be after Murderer dropped as it was already scheduled and he didn't want to detract from it or people to think Ren wouldn't respond to Dotta. Part of the "terms" for the battle was to do it in one take, Dotta misunderstood this to mean no editing. But also said he cant do it without his lyrics, and asks if he could at least use his phone for them. Ren had actually meant just to go at it as he had done in a core battle rap style. Dotta did agree to wait and after Murderer came out he did drop Kingdom Come(Ren Diss). In this Dotta couldn't help but double down and toss more shots at Knox. Knox and Ren have gotten close and this finally got his attention so Knox fired back. He released Stan remix(Knox Hill Diss). He had said that he had wanted to do a track with the beat for a while and this was a good chance to do it and show off his skills with battle, he came from battle rap originally. Then 24 hours later with no reply from dotta he drops a second track, Patiently Waiting, which was on the beat that Dotta used in his Crown track, before he switched up the beat in the middle. Ren had been delayed to respond to him due to his doctor and medical situation. To Dottas credit, he was fine with that, understanding and wasn't going to hold his delay against him, saying he was more about the bars then the quick response(part of why he wasn't going to respond to Knox right away, he needs time to write, has not exactly quick with his pen it would seem.) Finally Ren was able to respond and drops his video for Dumb King Come(King Dotta Diss). One of the best parts to me is that Dotta said he cracked up when Ren had got to the line about putting the cake down, as he had said he in fact had had cake for breakfast that morning. After this drops, Dotta says hes not going to respond to Ren and they were cool(I mean how could you respond after that. But that he was not done with Knox and he did drop like 3 or 4 tracks as disses at Knox, but Knox was done with it. Knox had shown what he can do with battle rap but its not what he wants to do. He liked to follow Ren's approach of building people up rather then destroy. Ren follows the idea of A Rising Tide Lifts All Ships. In dottas tracks, he had some bars, but he was nowhere near the level of Knox or Ren, and stood no chance in my opinion. But this was fun to see Ren expanding his skills in even more directions! Final note, Michell Show is a hater and he does remain true to his style. I don't care for him much. But I will say he has given props to Ren in this, and his reaction to Rens diss when the shots at him come up are great. Best part in it all. But he has said he has no real issues with Ren. He actually has dropped a track called White Room Freestyle. Where he was going after some others, but in it he did take a slight shot at Ren, but admitted himself that it was light, he could have done harder but there was no need as they were cool and had talked some behind the scenes. I love the way this had gone and thus why i followed it closely. I would love to do a video that actually layed out the entire situation, but i don't know how right now, and don't have time right now to actually learn the video editing stuff, but maybe someday I can. For now, i can just try to correct/inform people on what actually was going on with the sides.
Thank you 🙏 that was clear and concise. Now I really do have a better understanding of how it all went down. I think if you ever get around to making your video that it would help emphasise REN’s rising tide philosophy and how he/it did have a flow on effect with all of these artists/ channels
Ahh, context! Lol, well done. "I just played you at your game, so welcome to mine." Imo, he ended the diss/battle with that line and told us that's not how he works. He answered the battle and flipped it. He paid respect to the culture of battle rap, then did the Ren thing & pulled out a rising tide lifts all ships move. 💚💙💜
I think Ren explained it himself about big uppin' Dotta at the end when he said, "I'm not a battle rapper, but I do love to rap." He's like, I can do this too, but that's not how I roll.
King Dotta posted this reaction to Ren's diss track, straight after watching it. "That was Dope" There was no beef, it was an arranged diss between Ren and KD. KD had been goading other YT Rappers, just up the subs on his channel. At that time KD had less than 1000 subs . All the YT reactor rappers, ignored KD except for Ren. Ren thought it would be good fun, just for the sport of hip hop. Ren wanted to do a live battle rap KD misunderstood. So after friendly messages back and forth, Ren set the rules, It will only one diss track each. But it had to be recorded live, with no reading off a script. You can see KD live recording on his YT channel. RedTopReactions reacted to Ren's diss, straight after he phoned KD and got him live for his reaction. He said when Ren started off, he couldn't stop laughing, it's was then that he realised Ren wanted to a proper live battle rap.. As mentioned, KD favourite line was, when Ren kicked down the down and said "Put down the Cake" He had just eaten a very large one
I think Ren didn’t go too hard on him because this wasn’t a real beef. All Ren saw was a rapper with some talent who didn’t have much of a following. He played the game and then did what he’s known for: build people up. Just think of the incredible amount of real life 💩 that had to pile up before he REALLY snapped on Kujo.
One Dotta line that's just completely stupid is something about how can you lift bars when you're so skinny. Have you seen Ren without a shirt on?! Oooh, honey!!!
It started about a Knoxhill track that mentioned a boggieman and somehow Dotta made that a Diss Knox wasnt going to reply but Dotta then dragged Ren in. So Knoxhill repplied twice (great fun) Then Ren put the bow on it.
Dotta likes to Battle rap and is pretty good with the pen. Have to give respect where due. Many say hes clout chasing but i think he just comes at people he thinks would have a good battle response.
Love how unbiased u 2 are .honesty and authenticity is a big part of why your channel is blowing up we reaction watchers can tell if use are just saying what u think we want to hear or if it’s authentic 😊I have to admit when I first seen your guys thumbnail I thought who are these American gangster brothers then I watched and I was stunned NOT American gangster brothers u2 seem honestly seem like totally awesome dudes .note to self never ever judge a book by its cover
Renegades correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the Dotta situation arise because of a diss between Dotta and Knox originally and Ren got pulled in by Dotta from left field?
The revording quality reminds me of the 90s when if you came out of Brixton Underground to catch bus outside Woolworths somebody would always be trying to sell you a mix tape (later a CD) that they recorded (as well as drug usually 😂) and the quality always sounded like they recorded it on their Bush twin deck player! 😂
Great reaction guys; glad you did both songs too. I paid a lot more attention to Dotta's track this time (as opposed to the first, one and only time (I think) that I've heard it) and he did have some great bars here n there!
OMG! I nearly died laughing at the crisps packet!! You guys are always so much fun. I agree with everyone who said you should do the King Dotta/Knox Hill disses. They are definitely not as lighthearted. King Dotta has a playlist of them on his channel titled "King Dotta vs Knox." It's starts with Knox's Killshot Remix, but it's debatable whether or not that was actually a diss to Dotta (I don't believe so). Definitely Crown, Stan Remix, and Patiently Waiting Remix should be included if you decide to do it.
Dotta said when he first saw Ren's diss & the part where he said "Put Down The Cake" He was actually eating a Red Velvet Cake, Dotta's been a fun part of the Renverse & it's been a totally fun journey Dotta also did a bunch of Ren reactions after the fact
You two would love beatbox battles. Definetly a unique type of music. Start with Footboxg vs Colaps from 2021. Great battle with two of the best in the world!!
quick recap of how this started: Dotta says no one will battle him. Ren said he would. They decided to have a competitive back and forth, Ren said he wanted to do it live, Dotta agreed but misunderstood, and put out a 1 take unedited track, which is why it sounded like that
I love this because he totally murdered this diss with barely any effort and knew Kujo was done for in an artistic way by Ren because of this one and you guys really gave me a good laugh at the end explaining Dotta's recording process 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 🤘🏽🔥⚡🎶❤️🔥🫶🏽
We just recently found out DOTTA and Ren had sorta called it truths before the battle. Ren didn’t want to call a war on Dotta especially with iover 1 million of his followers. The Michelle Show got the hardest hit in this. Thanks guys we all had a blast with this battle.
I love the way Ren ends this diss track with love, such a Ren thing to do lol. I need to see you guys react to Illest of Our Time and Down on the Beat by Ren next!
TDIP loved your reaction to the Dotta and Ren dis. So true. So funny! Then you said about the crisp packet I was rolling with laughter! Ren just had to say something couldn't even keep a straight face while dissing him! Is not the kind of guy who has beef with people. He is genuinely quite laid back! Ironically it was kujo beatdown that was your introduction to Ren! Ren is about tolerance and respect! He tried so hard to sort out the kujo situation, before he said enough is enough! Then had to put him in his place! So enjoyed your vibe on this one! Keep up the good work 👍😊👍❤️
Bare in mind ren was getting the first round of treatment in Canada last year when this occurred. He used the car park where he was getting said treatment to record this.
I believe REN is not about hatred! So, when he said King Dotta was ok....that is HIM. Ren doesn't want to hate anyone really. He sees this more as a game. I don't like to battle...he says. RESPECT ren! hatred breds hatred!
“I went easy on the Dotta, he’s a friend it’s zen” respect. Love how this all came together and turned out. Dotta got the push and ren got to exercise his pen and try something new. 🔥 Just shared in RENactions 🤛👊😎👍🤟 🔥🌳🌬️💨
But he's NOT a battle rapper. He buries him the raises him up - kills him with love. But note - ya cut it off! - funeral pipes again at the very end! To 'Amazing Grace'....🎉
Two double features in one video day. I feel so f**king spoiled. From my understanding Dota dissed Ren in the first place because he had beef with Ren's friend Knox Hill. So when he did a diss track on Knox Hill and Knox Hill did nothing about it he decided to go after Ren instead. OMG he recorded it inside of Chrisp bag. That is hilarious!!😂😂😂😂😂 One last that is you guys looked so happy when you were able to say you have more followers than King Dotta!
Ren also learnt his response, did it acapelkaand in one take. None of which Dotta managed. Didnt even film himself - had his lyrics in front of him. He also challenged him to do a response 'with no instruments'. Ren delivered. No reason for diss at all - cloutseeking. Dotta had about 500 subs b4 Ren's diss back! Literally lessthan his calorie intake! 😊
It's so long ago I don't recall where all of the receipts are any longer, but there was some "negotiation" before these 2 songs came out. Ren demanded Dotta do it all in one take and Dotta asked for Ren not to "lean on" a beat.
Ren spanked him and then gave him a lolly 😂❤
In your first ren reaction (Kujobeats one) there was the line "I went easy on the DOTTA, he's a friend it's zen'
I watched Dotta's reaction to the release of Kujo beat down. To say he was proud and excited by that line is an understatement.
If i remember right ren said he nipped down to the carpark of the hospital between treatments and tecorded on his phone 😂 big up renaldo ❤
😂 I love that y'all did this, it gives even more context to how really angry Ren was when he did Kujo Beat Down. For context, at this point, Ren had very recently become a worldwide viral artist, and literally everything he dropped following Hi Ren was 🔥, and the Premieres were events in their own right, with thousands of people posting up to chat with Ren during each drop. Ren reactions were dropping within the hour following each Premiere. The insane momentum of this hidden gem of talent with a compelling backstory and a positive message, an artist who'd been fighting to be heard, and had the skill, drive, and message to captivate a tremendous following.
Ren had just passed his million sub marker, and was well on his way to his first #1 album, Sick Boi, with a ride or die fanbase built through word of mouth - no concerts due to his health issues, no corporate giant to push him out there, no corporate-created image of what analytics thinks an "artist" should be.
King Dotta's diss came out of left field. There was nothing that provoked it, in fact most people only knew it happened because Ren publicly addressed it. We'd never seen anything other than this incredible artist that just wants to get his music and message out while fighting a debilitating condition, so there was a lot of nervous excitement to see how he'd do. The vast majority of his audience didn't know what battle rap really was, other than being really aggressive and far outside of what we'd ever seen from Ren.
When Ren came through and did really well with the diss part, everyone was amazed and were charged up because our guy showed up, stepped to the mark, and killed it. But when he flipped it, we saw the Ren we all knew again, and we were all reminded of why we all loved Ren and what he's doing. There are many reactions to Ren's diss out there where this change in energy brought reactors to literal tears. It was a reminder that we all wanted something more positive in this world, and that we didn't necessarily have to tear down to build up.
Its wild y'all started your Ren journey with Kujo Beat Down, but I've lived every second of the ride. Shout out TDIP, Shout out Renegades. Much respect & love out to everyone that's a part of this. 🫡❤️
Great job giving them a breakdown DB! This truly did come out of nowhere for the entire community AND Ren. Ren had never said anything bad about King Dotta nor had known his work PRIOR to King Dotta coming out with this track, but Ren realised Dotta's potential and decided to use the opportunity to raise himself AND Dotta up in a single track. That's true diss culture right there. They might have had 'beef', but they handled it like gentlemen and came to become good friends in the end.
As DB stated, it's why the KujoBeats situation is so frustrating and almost incomprehensible to everyone. Ren, even to his critics and 'enemies', is such a generous, giving, and lifting person. He acknowledges when he's made mistakes and listens to criticism and then uses that as fuel to do better, be better, increase his creativity and craft, and put everyone else on a pedestal.
Whatever the situation was, doesn't matter. Ren and Dotta handled it like real men and they are friends. Can't say the same for Kujo. Bollocks on Kujo.
Dotta was commenting on reactors pages asking why they were giving ren the up and ignoring him. Knox Hill responded to a dotta diss first. If I remember corrrectly, they had 2 each in that battle.
@@aprilsarandos8855 Yep, Dotta dissed Knox Hill first, Knox responded, but when that didn't satisfy him, he went after Ren.
na it didnt come out of nowhere guys ren and dotta dmd and agreed to track each off the back of the knox dotta shit.....
Ren wasn't angry with Dotta, but he was with Kujo.😂😂🤣🤣😂😂
"I speak about 5 syllables, you cease to exist" .... "you cease to exist" is 5 syllables 😘😁💜
Great catch!
I'm pretty sure "cease to exist" was an original Charlie Manson song. Probably not related... But a fun fact.
Dotta has been reacting to Ren since the diss and he's been a real supporter of his art..
Even "Michelle Show" is now a renegade (last time I checked)
Just before the pickup, said I played you at your game now welcome to mine.
Dotta did a diss and that is his world. Ren then said welcome to mine. REN’s world is lifting up people. So that is what he did.
Crisp packet had me rolling. 🤣🤣🤣 You guys make my day so much better when the days are not good right now. Can't wait for the next one.
Nice one fellas. These came out about 2 months before Ren got the No1 album.
Both Dotta and The Michelle Show are now actually Ren fans and have done their own reactions to him.
Well, hiya Mr. Eley! 😊
@MissyGail4eva hi there to you too
I watched the michelle show reaction when he admits he is now a Renegade. I think it was Sickboi, had me rolling laughing.
“You know I’m staying grounded when I grind up my beef” 😊 rens exact words.
I would like to say that Ren switching gears and giving Dotta props was technically AFTER the diss. When he said "I played you at your game, now welcome to mine," to me, it was really like "that part's over; now here's YOUR challenge -- be a better person." Lol. Like, what are you going to do with this attention now?
I think Ren responded because he was bored. He was in Canada getting treatment at the time and he was sitting around alot at the clinic with IV's stuck in his arm. Dotta was dissing anyone who was climbing in subs on YT trying to get more for himself. Ren did what Ren always does - he flipped it back on Dotta by killing him with kindness. You guys both know what it looks like when Ren is really PO'd and we've only seen that happen once. 🤣 Thanks for the double feature!
I dissed the Niggas think was trash... Aint have anything to do numbers, I'm a rapper not a clout chaser
Truth is Ren actually wanted the battle.
Ren in his own words poked the bear. To get this battle.
Everyone gets this wrong.
@@Threadbow Really? I have never come across that before. Was it in a Twitch live or something?
@@hummingbirdstones in the black pegasus reaction he said that ren responded to a yt comment or something wanting to battle.
@@nickmilo932 Ahhhh - thank you! I'll have to go back and rewatch it. I totally don't remember that. 😊
Gentlemen, yall did this proper by including context, thank you!! 😊 The funniest part i think is that, the story goes, Dotta was eating cake when he first heard Ren's rebuttal. 😂 Ren ❤ Dotta ❤
Was gonna comment same 🤭
Of course he was! I was wondering what was on his lap!!! Serendipity. Green light. Love red lines and green lights.
Dotta went at Knox Hill and Knox ignored him and then Dotta started showing up in comments on Ren's music and talking about Ren so Ren gave Dotta the attention that Dotta was looking for. After Dotta dropped this song and couldn't resist throwing more shots at Knox Hill then Knox responded and dropped Stan Remix 2 hours after this song was released and then 24 hours later Knox dropped Patiently Waiting Remix. You guys should check out Dotta's song "Crown" which is his first diss to Knox and then the tracks from Knox. Knox came up in battle rap. He's nasty at battling
Another rabbit hole.... LET'S GO!
@@thedreadinitpodcastKnox and Dotta really don't like each other and they say some crazy stuff....lol. I guess Dotta ended up replying to 2 diss tracks from Knox but it was over a month after Knox had put out his responses to Dotta so by that time no one really cared to go back and pay attention. Dotta recently went after Black Pegasus and so they had 3 rounds of diss tracks. Dotta has gone after others that won't respond cuz he's trying to punch up to artists that are way to big to be bothered to respond (recently he went after Tom MacDonald who has close to 5 million subs on yt.... Tom definitely won't respond, they don't even know each other...lol)
I love clout kobain for benzino. where he goes Puerto Rican on him lmao
@@MegsD79Ya mean Dookie Buckets? LMA🤣, it's cuz Tom is a racist piece of trash, and King goes into that in 'Tom Fan' 😊
@@thedreadinitpodcastthe Stan remix Dotta diss is a work of art lol 👌
THIS is what made the Kujo Beat Down SO massive. It even had the Dotta reference in there. But there was no sweet Ren twist at the end of the Brat Down. Some of us were waiting for it. Some of us were shocked when it didn't come. And we were shocked that we didn't mind a bit.
I wondered if Brat Down was a typo. It's apt anyway.
"I went easy on the Dotta, he's a friend, it's zen." - one of my favorite bars from Kujo Beat Down.😂😂
Ren doesn't like division, he favors unity... so he played the battle rap game but then turned it around and gave Dotta a spotlight, in line with his personal values
I think Ren agreed to this battle for a few specific reasons: 1) to test his pen game, 2) to have some fun, 3) to make points about the cultural divides that he takes issues with. After the battle, Dotta gave Ren a lot of respect and has done some Ren reactions - they are great!
As for how it started, Dotta was stirring up a lot of drama in comment sections and the Michelle Show was pouring fuel on the fire 🔥 Knox Hill was trying to just ignore it all, since he just thinks Dotta was klout chasing, but when Knox decided to enter the ring, he threw some punches at Dotta 💥 🥊 After which, Ren asked Knox, “how do you kill somebody who is already dead?” 😹 So that explains the intro. I think Ren was hoping Dotta would come after him a little harder, but as you pointed out, there wasn’t bad blood between them - just a battle rap sparring match.
MichelleShow is a total hater, but Ren has even managed to win him over. I would HIGHLY recommend watching MichelleShow’s reaction to Ren Sick Boi 😹😹😹 It’s a classic.
Michelle show is a cartoon comedy set up you donut 😂
Petty for laughs.
😂😂😂 zerox knox 😂
Michelle is great! He is a hater but a lot of it is purely for comedy value. If he's hating on someone but he's impressed, he'll be the first to say it - it's just he doesn't hold back if he really doesn't like something whilst the majority of reaction channels just don't post the videos of stuff they don't like.
He's clearly become a fan of BP and started to understand the Ren hype once he got more of a grasp over what he's about rather than just hearing the opening couple minutes of Hi-Ren
Michelle show kujo beat down was the one that swung him
@@mcguigance was that before Baggage? I remember him absolutely popping when Rens verse started and then saying he'd need to edit it out 😂
I believe Ren wanted two things by doing this. First, he'd never done battle rap and wanted to try and second, and more importantly I think, he wanted to address the racial division Dotta threw at him.
Another point, in the lead up to Ren's track, his fans were tearing up Dotta's skills and music and I think Ren recognised, as you guys did, that Dotta isn't bad. Ren adores good rapping and I can imagine him reading some of his own fans comments calling Dotta trash and Ren just shaking his head.
Soooo happy to listen to Brits react to this - none of the Yanks get 'you are shite' - coz they don't know it as an alternative to shit. They all tjink he's saying shy or just don't know - and so miss yet another gag line. SHITE SHITE SHITE! Yay! 😊❤
Biggest flex imaginable is sending your million fans to his channel and a year later he has the same number of subscribers.
errm, actually ☝...
Love that you were neutral 😊Ren was killing 3 birds with one stone. He did the diss battle rap style and had some good bars and punchlines directly to and about Dotta. Then he did his "Rising Tides Lifts all Ships" philosophy. Then, very important to Ren, he got out a message that he's very passionate about. Racism, the division in society and the loss of community. ❤😊
remember the line in kujo beat down?
'I went easy on the Dotta, he's a friend, it's zen.'
Ren wanted the test his pen and told dotta to come on then lol there's a full back story to this that the more devote renegades could go into detail about.
That line I do remember!!
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Really? I've been thinking he said, "he's a friend, exempt" like exempt from a true beat down. 🫢😁
The MichelleShow beef with Black Pegagus and Anthony Ray is quite the spectacle and ends up wholesome in its own way
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I may be wrong, but that whole thing just seemed so contrived, like they were all trying to drift off the Kujo Beat down or something.
I think Ren didn't have enough anger to go hard at Dotta, especially since it was clear he was just trying to boost his channel, Rens too nice. Listen to Knox Hills diss to Dotta on an Eminem beat it was sick ❤
Xerox Knox 😂 couldn't rap himself outta a paper bag 😂
Sooner Ren dumps knox who took months to respond, the better.
@@Threadbow you mean when Dotta pretended Knox had dissed him, and Knox not only didn't mention Dotta but didn't even know he existed?
Funny how even Rens clout didn't get Dotty a following, 'cause he is less than mid, has a terrible attitude, and his only content is hate bait aimed at people with actual careers.
“I went easey on the Dotta,
He’s a friend, it’s zen”
I respect Ren for being himself in this. He lifts all ships.
Ren did this as a massive favour to Dotta, his sub's went over 4K overnight, ✌❤🐦.
It might be odd for them to compliment each other, but Ren is unapologetically Ren. I wouldn't want him any other way. By the way, he's wearing a shirt with Tokyo on it. One word for love in Japanese, is ren.
They're good friends now. I love that.
7:20 8 mile effect 💯!! One of my favourite films 😂
The crisp packet bit had me howling 🤣🤣
Crisp packet 😂😂 omg siah
The diss games were fun, but these guys reacting bring it make with a new level of fun! 🤣
Did somebody say cake 🍰.. Dotta, leave it, its mine! 🖤
Like he said, he’s not a battle rapper, he just like to rap. Fair enough I say.
This was an agreed on battle between Ren and Dotta. The catalyst to this is when Knox Hill Dropped his Killshot Remix. In it there was the line that was like Yatta doda or something like that. Michell Show kinda spawned the misunderstanding by giving it the notion of dissing Dotta. Dotta had been trying to get a battle rap with Knox and several others for a while. So Dotta then releases Crown(Knox Hill Diss). Knox has no idea about this or who he even is. This annoys dotta. And he spergs out about Knox dissing him then wont respond to his diss. Ren saw this and decided to poke the bear (as he sad in a live stream) because he knew that Dotta would respond to it and challenge him. As expected. So Ren agrees to do a battle rap, saying to drop whenever he was ready, but did ask for it to be after Murderer dropped as it was already scheduled and he didn't want to detract from it or people to think Ren wouldn't respond to Dotta. Part of the "terms" for the battle was to do it in one take, Dotta misunderstood this to mean no editing. But also said he cant do it without his lyrics, and asks if he could at least use his phone for them. Ren had actually meant just to go at it as he had done in a core battle rap style. Dotta did agree to wait and after Murderer came out he did drop Kingdom Come(Ren Diss). In this Dotta couldn't help but double down and toss more shots at Knox. Knox and Ren have gotten close and this finally got his attention so Knox fired back. He released Stan remix(Knox Hill Diss). He had said that he had wanted to do a track with the beat for a while and this was a good chance to do it and show off his skills with battle, he came from battle rap originally. Then 24 hours later with no reply from dotta he drops a second track, Patiently Waiting, which was on the beat that Dotta used in his Crown track, before he switched up the beat in the middle.
Ren had been delayed to respond to him due to his doctor and medical situation. To Dottas credit, he was fine with that, understanding and wasn't going to hold his delay against him, saying he was more about the bars then the quick response(part of why he wasn't going to respond to Knox right away, he needs time to write, has not exactly quick with his pen it would seem.) Finally Ren was able to respond and drops his video for Dumb King Come(King Dotta Diss). One of the best parts to me is that Dotta said he cracked up when Ren had got to the line about putting the cake down, as he had said he in fact had had cake for breakfast that morning. After this drops, Dotta says hes not going to respond to Ren and they were cool(I mean how could you respond after that. But that he was not done with Knox and he did drop like 3 or 4 tracks as disses at Knox, but Knox was done with it. Knox had shown what he can do with battle rap but its not what he wants to do. He liked to follow Ren's approach of building people up rather then destroy. Ren follows the idea of A Rising Tide Lifts All Ships.
In dottas tracks, he had some bars, but he was nowhere near the level of Knox or Ren, and stood no chance in my opinion. But this was fun to see Ren expanding his skills in even more directions!
Final note, Michell Show is a hater and he does remain true to his style. I don't care for him much. But I will say he has given props to Ren in this, and his reaction to Rens diss when the shots at him come up are great. Best part in it all. But he has said he has no real issues with Ren. He actually has dropped a track called White Room Freestyle. Where he was going after some others, but in it he did take a slight shot at Ren, but admitted himself that it was light, he could have done harder but there was no need as they were cool and had talked some behind the scenes. I love the way this had gone and thus why i followed it closely. I would love to do a video that actually layed out the entire situation, but i don't know how right now, and don't have time right now to actually learn the video editing stuff, but maybe someday I can. For now, i can just try to correct/inform people on what actually was going on with the sides.
MichellShow has actually declared himself a Renegade in his reaction video to Kujo Beat Down. It was hilarious :-D
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Thank you 🙏 that was clear and concise. Now I really do have a better understanding of how it all went down.
I think if you ever get around to making your video that it would help emphasise REN’s rising tide philosophy and how he/it did have a flow on effect with all of these artists/ channels
Crisp packet had me going 😂😂😂
Haha I couldn't click on this video fast enough! 😂 this one always falls through the cracks, and it's one of my favorites ❤
The best thing about Ren’s response is that when Dotta was watching it, he was actually eating cake for breakfast.
You guys should check out the King Dotta vs Black Pegasus battle. Very entertaining and more traditional.
Another great Ren reaction guys, you never fail to make me laugh ❤🔥👊🏻🏴🇬🇧
Yall NEED to react to ,,Troubles" by Ren, its amazing 🙏🏿🙏🏿❤️🔥 loved that reaction btw it was on point😂🤝🏿
Ahh, context! Lol, well done.
"I just played you at your game, so welcome to mine." Imo, he ended the diss/battle with that line and told us that's not how he works. He answered the battle and flipped it. He paid respect to the culture of battle rap, then did the Ren thing & pulled out a rising tide lifts all ships move.
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Y'all should definitely check out the Dotta and Knox Hill diss that kicked all this off. Knox's diss was GOATed. Thank you for the reaction as always!
I think Ren explained it himself about big uppin' Dotta at the end when he said, "I'm not a battle rapper, but I do love to rap." He's like, I can do this too, but that's not how I roll.
King Dotta posted this reaction to Ren's diss track, straight after watching it. "That was Dope" There was no beef, it was an arranged diss between Ren and KD. KD had been goading other YT Rappers, just up the subs on his channel. At that time KD had less than 1000 subs . All the YT reactor rappers, ignored KD except for Ren. Ren thought it would be good fun, just for the sport of hip hop. Ren wanted to do a live battle rap KD misunderstood. So after friendly messages back and forth, Ren set the rules, It will only one diss track each. But it had to be recorded live, with no reading off a script. You can see KD live recording on his YT channel. RedTopReactions reacted to Ren's diss, straight after he phoned KD and got him live for his reaction. He said when Ren started off, he couldn't stop laughing, it's was then that he realised Ren wanted to a proper live battle rap.. As mentioned, KD favourite line was, when Ren kicked down the down and said "Put down the Cake" He had just eaten a very large one
Susan here. Dotta talked a lot about wanting to battle pap to bring back that part of hiphop culture.
To quote Ren "A rising tide lifts all ships"
I think Ren didn’t go too hard on him because this wasn’t a real beef. All Ren saw was a rapper with some talent who didn’t have much of a following. He played the game and then did what he’s known for: build people up.
Just think of the incredible amount of real life 💩 that had to pile up before he REALLY snapped on Kujo.
One Dotta line that's just completely stupid is something about how can you lift bars when you're so skinny. Have you seen Ren without a shirt on?! Oooh, honey!!!
It started about a Knoxhill track that mentioned a boggieman and somehow Dotta made that a Diss Knox wasnt going to reply but Dotta then dragged Ren in. So Knoxhill repplied twice (great fun) Then Ren put the bow on it.
Dotta likes to Battle rap and is pretty good with the pen. Have to give respect where due. Many say hes clout chasing but i think he just comes at people he thinks would have a good battle response.
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Love how unbiased u 2 are .honesty and authenticity is a big part of why your channel is blowing up we reaction watchers can tell if use are just saying what u think we want to hear or if it’s authentic 😊I have to admit when I first seen your guys thumbnail I thought who are these American gangster brothers then I watched and I was stunned NOT American gangster brothers u2 seem honestly seem like totally awesome dudes .note to self never ever judge a book by its cover
This dropped a few weeks before sick boi #1...
Top shelf entertainment/reaction gentlemen ! ! Always a pleasure... and a rollicking laugh too!
Renegades correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the Dotta situation arise because of a diss between Dotta and Knox originally and Ren got pulled in by Dotta from left field?
Susan here, I saw this getting played out in comments under one of the Michelle Show videos.
Oh my days, I could watch you two all day long! 😆🤣
The revording quality reminds me of the 90s when if you came out of Brixton Underground to catch bus outside Woolworths somebody would always be trying to sell you a mix tape (later a CD) that they recorded (as well as drug usually 😂) and the quality always sounded like they recorded it on their Bush twin deck player! 😂
Yay! You did my suggestion! 🖤
For Ren playing beautiful piano, check out Mackay. Piano and voice- For Joe. Both dedicated to friends he lost. Love your reactions! ❤
Appreciate u playing both songs 💯 💯
(I washed tf outta Knox hill and don't let nobody tell u different)
Ain't a thing brother! 👊🏾
Glad to see this. Dottas the real deal and a genuine guy. Should check out some of his other stuff
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Still love the shoutout respect to you from Ren in the Kujo Beatdown 🔥🔥
Dotta is a funny guy 🇬🇧😊
Dotta was just looking to ride the rising tide & benefit from Ren blowin up. And Ren knows it!
I think it is safe to say Dotta is a big fan now! It just goes to show EVERYTHING REN STANDS FOR! He convinced Dotta !❤
Great reaction guys; glad you did both songs too. I paid a lot more attention to Dotta's track this time (as opposed to the first, one and only time (I think) that I've heard it) and he did have some great bars here n there!
Ren is all about lifting people up - this just shows that cos as he said, “He’s not a battle rapper.”
Thanks for your reaction. ❤
REN had just gotten to Canada when all of this happened, he was really sick at this moment ❤
OMG! I nearly died laughing at the crisps packet!! You guys are always so much fun. I agree with everyone who said you should do the King Dotta/Knox Hill disses. They are definitely not as lighthearted. King Dotta has a playlist of them on his channel titled "King Dotta vs Knox." It's starts with Knox's Killshot Remix, but it's debatable whether or not that was actually a diss to Dotta (I don't believe so). Definitely Crown, Stan Remix, and Patiently Waiting Remix should be included if you decide to do it.
Dotta said when he first saw Ren's diss & the part where he said "Put Down The Cake" He was actually eating a Red Velvet Cake, Dotta's been a fun part of the Renverse & it's been a totally fun journey Dotta also did a bunch of Ren reactions after the fact
If you want to talk about disrespectful disses listen to knox hill's 2 disses to dotta holy shit😂
😂 😂 The disses that I spanked easily? 😂
You two would love beatbox battles. Definetly a unique type of music. Start with Footboxg vs Colaps from 2021. Great battle with two of the best in the world!!
quick recap of how this started:
Dotta says no one will battle him. Ren said he would. They decided to have a competitive back and forth, Ren said he wanted to do it live, Dotta agreed but misunderstood, and put out a 1 take unedited track, which is why it sounded like that
remember Ren always says a high tide raises all ships so at the end he was telling his fans to show Dotta some love because he's pretty good
Ahh thanks lads for reacting to these ❤
as crisp as a pack of walker's you 2 smash it.. lmfao.. one love ❤
Not the crisp packet 😭😭😭🤣🤣
I love this because he totally murdered this diss with barely any effort and knew Kujo was done for in an artistic way by Ren because of this one and you guys really gave me a good laugh at the end explaining Dotta's recording process 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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We just recently found out DOTTA and Ren had sorta called it truths before the battle. Ren didn’t want to call a war on Dotta especially with iover 1 million of his followers. The Michelle Show got the hardest hit in this. Thanks guys we all had a blast with this battle.
I love the way Ren ends this diss track with love, such a Ren thing to do lol. I need to see you guys react to Illest of Our Time and Down on the Beat by Ren next!
😂Great one guys keep it up .this was good. lol
That was just Ren being Ren , spreading love. ❤
was so looking forward to your reaction to this thank you for all the support you give our boy Ren love you guys ❤❤
You guys crack me up love your channel ❤
TDIP loved your reaction to the Dotta and Ren dis. So true. So funny! Then you said about the crisp packet I was rolling with laughter! Ren just had to say something couldn't even keep a straight face while dissing him! Is not the kind of guy who has beef with people. He is genuinely quite laid back! Ironically it was kujo beatdown that was your introduction to Ren! Ren is about tolerance and respect! He tried so hard to sort out the kujo situation, before he said enough is enough! Then had to put him in his place! So enjoyed your vibe on this one! Keep up the good work 👍😊👍❤️
Oh my days you guys are endlessly hilarious 😂
He and Dotta are on really good terms now, it's cool. The generosity at the end of Ren's was the killing blow.
Bare in mind ren was getting the first round of treatment in Canada last year when this occurred. He used the car park where he was getting said treatment to record this.
I believe REN is not about hatred! So, when he said King Dotta was ok....that is HIM. Ren doesn't want to hate anyone really. He sees this more as a game. I don't like to battle...he says. RESPECT ren! hatred breds hatred!
Throws it back beautifully, all eyes are on you.
“I went easy on the Dotta, he’s a friend it’s zen” respect. Love how this all came together and turned out. Dotta got the push and ren got to exercise his pen and try something new. 🔥
Just shared in RENactions
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PS - Dotta now reacts to Ren's music....
Damn Skippy he does! 🤗
I love Dotta’s Ren reactions!
You guys had my dying and crying on this one! So damn funny!!!! You’d of missed out if you diddnt stay to the end!!!
Great reaction, thank you Gents 🙏🐊❤️🦉👍
Now u know why K**o was a "unique" situation, Ren just used this fun exercise to lift Dotta and he takes every opportunity to spread the real message.
Great reaction guy's!❤from D in the UK 🇬🇧 ❤
But he's NOT a battle rapper. He buries him the raises him up - kills him with love. But note - ya cut it off! - funeral pipes again at the very end! To 'Amazing Grace'....🎉
Dotta's a big supporter of Ren now and if you remember in Kujo Beatdown Ren said "I went easy on the Dotta, hes a friend, its zen"
Another great reaction guys , 🍻🔥🇨🇦
Two double features in one video day. I feel so f**king spoiled. From my understanding Dota dissed Ren in the first place because he had beef with Ren's friend Knox Hill. So when he did a diss track on Knox Hill and Knox Hill did nothing about it he decided to go after Ren instead.
OMG he recorded it inside of Chrisp bag. That is hilarious!!😂😂😂😂😂
One last that is you guys looked so happy when you were able to say you have more followers than King Dotta!
Thanks for another great reaction. Loving you two.
Ren also learnt his response, did it acapelkaand in one take. None of which Dotta managed. Didnt even film himself - had his lyrics in front of him. He also challenged him to do a response 'with no instruments'. Ren delivered. No reason for diss at all - cloutseeking. Dotta had about 500 subs b4 Ren's diss back! Literally lessthan his calorie intake! 😊
Soooooo happy you did this ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Love you guys so much, that was a such a laugh, cheers 😂❤
It's so long ago I don't recall where all of the receipts are any longer, but there was some "negotiation" before these 2 songs came out. Ren demanded Dotta do it all in one take and Dotta asked for Ren not to "lean on" a beat.