I’m just newly diagnosed ADHD in my 30s. I use marijuana like you used nicotine. Smoking before any task provides just enough dopamine to muscle through the task. It helps make everything more “doable” but after watching this I would like to try and quit again-it’s mentally and physically hard. I’ll be following -keep it up!
Just came across your vid. Replacing a regular habit with something else will absolutely be a big deal. I wonder if that's even more of a thing than the nicotine (but I speak only from ignorance in regard to nicotine). You have a long way to go. In my early 40s and only diagnosed 2 years ago. Awareness is a huge part of the growing in life process. I spent many years while undiagnosed just stuck and not aware of anything. Sometimes taking a break from something and coming back to it gives us yet another completely different perspective, too. If you're doing better, great! Good job!
Thank you! It definitely does get easier with time, with ADHD it definitely complicates things lol especially with the black and white thinking. Without having self awareness with ADHD, sobriety from any substance is going to be almost impossible due to how our brains work. It's definitely been a good learning experience to help learn to understand myself.
Nicotine without tobacco is NOT addictive. Nicotine is a benign and useful chemical in regards to those who may have ADHD Autism and Tourettes. It is a safer option than smoking and is the most successful option when trying to stop smoking.
I smoked cigarettes 28 yrs. I tried to quit with gum, patches, wellbrin, chantix, acupuncture, and hypnosis. Nothing seemed to work. My doctor suggested that I try nicotine vapor. That worked day one and with ZERO side effects. I then worked my way down to zero milligrams. Once I did that I worked my way off caffeine. That was super hard. A few months went by and I was having a hard time focusing. My job is detail oriented so this was concerning. I went to the doctor and told him my dilemma. He asked did you quit nicotine and then caffeine? I told him yes. My doctor suggested that I add back in some nicotine. (Caffeine was too hard to quit and nicotine was easier to step down) I couldn’t believe that fixed the problem! I was so happy it wasn’t something else. He explained that nicotine helps with focus. Now I use zero most days and add in nicotine a few days a week. Problem solved.
I gave up smoking five years ago after 30 years. I am newly diagnosed ADHD and never knew the association between smoking and ADHD. Your video has made me realise why giving up was so hard all those years and probably why I unconsciously replaced smoking with drinking. Thank you so much and hope it is going well for you.😊
Loving all your content on this subject . I am 17 days into quitting vaping . Feeling so much better in a lot of ways but also kinda blank mentally . Hanging in there
You described it perfectly, I have ADHD too & the first few days of quitting I felt the best I have ever felt in my life, all my senses came back stronger, smell, taste, hearing, awareness, My skin got clearer BUT after that I just felt slumped, stuck to my bed with no motivation & no replacements I did grind gym but as soon as all my friends left I went crazy, then I tried grinding Boxing but my brother stopped sparring with me I felt angry. So all my attempted replacements went to shit & my anxiety went bad bad. So yeah the most I've gone without it is probably 3 days, when I (with ADHD) quit for a couple days I do gain abit of an energy burst & natural male aggression but I had nothing to put my energy to.
I have watched a few of your videos so I thought i would finally comment. I also have adhd. Same exact issues with adhd meds. I used Nicotine from age 20-35. Im 36 now and I just finished my first full year free from nicotine. It's been absolute madness but it does get a bit easier with new coping mechanisms however something was missing. It comes down to this.. Nicotine vs. ADHD meds. vs. Constant Adversity. As I get older I begin to think more of a happy life than a long life. Thanks for sharing your experience. You have many years to figure things out.
In my early 40s and am on ADHD meds, but considering a swap to nicotine vaping as a stimulant alternative. The vape experience is a draw to me as a stim/fidget so already intend to try 0% nic juice. Curious about why you stopped or even wanted to stop. I don't know what it's like coming from smoking to vaping to trying to stop that. :)
@@cversion7 I quit because I couldn't bring my vape on my trip to Thailand and I refused to go back to cigs. So I decided i would quit before trip. That was 2 years ago. I still feel out of my mind. LOL
So nicotine affected you pretty similarly to the meds? I wonder if meds would make me super anxious and way to hyper aware just like the nicotine does.
help me understand Chris. You and Will both KNOW nicotine was helping you control your ADHD symptoms. You must know there are safe sources of nicotine (patches, gum, lozenges, vapes, pouches). Why quit it? Turn this around. The CDC literally calls nicotine patches, gum and lozenges "medical nicotine." Consider this concept: #TherapeuticNicotine. And give some thought to why nicotine, which doesn't cause cancer, heart or lung disease, has been demonized.
Here because I actually relapsed from vaping a year after and the part you said about it being a even bigger temptation is real asf so I'm resonating with you hard asf
I have adhd, anxiety disorder and depression so it's a massive struggle, with a mom who smokes cigarettes and being in college everyone vaping around me the triggers are hardcore. I'd love to hear what you do when you get those gut punch cravings even when the actual drug is out of your system
I needed this. I'm struggling so hard...I'm an artist and I'm 10 Mos in and I literally cannot finish a project. I've been patient with myself but I literally cannot focus. Cannot paint. I'm pretty close to just saying F it.
Low dose ketamine. High B and D vitamins. Quit gluten and any alcohol..... you'll feel way better in 1 week. Promise. Stay strong, focus on body health.
@@jamesbryson9542thank you so much! I'm microdosing atm but ketamine! I live in Alaska and wouldn't have any clue as to where to aquire any. I really appreciate this seriously...
I just recently learned that people with ADHD self medicate with nicotine/tobacco. I also just learned that lots of bad things happen when you have unmanaged ADHD. I quit smoking at the beginning of 2023 not knowing any of that. I knew I had ADHD but I never seen it as a problem, apparently because I spent most of my life with it mostly managed by cigarettes. Then I decided to quit smoking. To make a long story short, I went off the deep end. Wife called crisis and a month later I’m still unmanaged. That’s mainly because the VA diagnosed me with CUD and, more or less, refuses to treat the ADHD and instead only one of the peripheral symptoms, unless I forgo stimulant treatment and pot. Anyway, the moral of the story is, if you have ADHD and you want to quit smoking, then do yourself a favor and be sure you’re managing your symptoms, preferably, with a stimulant since that’s what you’re giving up.
I have ADHD, diagnosed at 6. I smoked for 20 years. Quit. Now I medicate my ADHD with nicotine patches. Nicotine patches are a great way to balance an ADHD brain.
Nicotine detox in the brain takes 90 days. Start cardio, vitamins, caffiene, l-theanine. L-tyrosine.... even PEA/phenylalaine (dopamine precussors). Between vaping nicotine or drinking, vaping is a better addiction. Gum helps. Low-dose ketamine helps for addiction. Do NOT drink w ADHD.... it makes exec dysfunction 10 times worse.
I needed to hear this, it's so true to my own journey with this. Buddying up with someone is the best way I find to deal with this part of the journey. I'm here for you bud, you got this.
Dear Will: I am so so sympathetic to your situation. Here's how I see it. Nicotine was clearly helping you control your #ADHD symptoms (#TherapeuticNicotine). This is not surprising. Numerous studies show transdermal nicotine patches reduce ADHD symptoms. If you take nicotine from a safe source, there is no downside. It might even help you reduce your prescription meds, which you know can have nasty side-effects (and ARE addictive). So who convinced you that it was a good idea to stop something that was helping you? I have to assume it's the past 4 decades of demonizing nicotine by researchers and experts in the field of tobacco control. They demonized nicotine for a super good reason, to reduce cigarette use. But this demonization is actually a paternalistic lie. A violation of Truth-Telling, which is a fundamental moral principle in Healthcare Ethics. If cigarettes delivered caffeine, they would have demonized THAT, and no one would care about nicotine. It's just a mild stimulant that increases focus, attention and memory (like caffeine) and, unlike caffeine, also reduces stress and anxiety. In the alternate universe where cigarettes don't kill people, these mild psychoactive effects would be seen as "good for you."
Yeah dude I definitely feel you & understand! Last winter I had Covid & had a nice cough, I used that as my spring board to minimize vaping & then I pulled it off & quit 👏 I got about 7-8months in went on vacation to a diff state where my fav vape was legal, & said ok just while down here 😅 & here I am 1yr later just started adhd meds & I WANNA quit soo bad but have zero true motivation bc my brain won’t stfu 🤬 vaping helped me quit a serious Newport habit 😳 but now w/ my adhd still unchecked I’m just feening out like a crackhead.. constantly vaping for hours at a time then taking a 10 min break. It should be the opposite if anything, 2hr break then vape 10 min, I just can’t put it down since I picked it back up!? Even lowering my nic to 2.4.. only has me using it more. I’m gunna do this!!?!! You stay strong.. there is ALWAYS a light at the end of the tunnel, just keep on trucking while your still rolling 👏 😃
You want to increase your eliquids nic strength if ya want to vape less, not lower the nic strength. Your body naturally regulates the amount of nic it wants, how much it can process. I'm a dual coil dripper user, & I vape 9mg. I hit it like 3 or 4 times & then I'm done for an hour
Feel this so much, thinking of quitting again but... I feel like i need other things to be well b4 i can do it. Also, smoking slows wound healing, might be related to skin issues.
Technically you're not craving dopamine, but craving the felling of brain releasing dopamine. Got to find other things which release dopamine that aren't toxic
@@MrRandyjohnson10 the problem is that to do all these things, you need quite a bit of motivation (aka dopamine) in the first place. And even then, the amount of dopamine released during those activities is not enough to make you feel good and accomplished enough to keep pursuing them afterwards.
That's how I'm feeling. I'm only 2 days in and my stimming has gone crazy. Im not able to focus on anything anymore. Then again I'm not on any meds so maybe if I get on meds things will get better idk....
@@tonimausey nah i relapsed after 110 days but 2 days after i bought the vape i threw it away and said you know what i miss the 110 days and now im back to 20 days no nic and plan to stay off forever; its a mindset thing man, build your body so atleast you’ll have something you worked towards to LOSE if you give in
@@Dame28 I'm currently day 74, I am thinking of going back on nicotine for the sake of productivity. Also, the thing no one talks about, it made me happy. What's the point of life if not to enjoy it? Is not doing a mildly problematic drug worth my happiness and liberty?
@@thezopelo try staying in shape and saying that lol, it didnt make me happy. I dont think it makes any of us happy, it’s just us that lack dopamine we seek external sources and nicotine is the best bet. Unfortunately it comes with side effects like alot of external sources. I try to convince myself i dont have adhd but then again i look back at 6 months of no progress. 6 months of barely using nicotine as well. It’s a battle man I can’t even give advice at this point. I been smoking one cigar a month for 6 months now which is basically quit; i lost alot of my productivity without it, but gained alot of health and muscle along with mental clarity and sleep.
But is nicotine by itself inherently bad? I’ve read that it's smoking tobacco and potentially vaping e-liquids that are harmful. There is quite a bit of research showing benefits of nicotine when it is administered via a patch, for example. Especially for people with ADHD.
I used to be heavily addicted to smoking and it took me years and many tries to quit, which I only finally managed by using nicotine replacement patches and gum. Unfortunately, I found that after quitting I could no longer write the way I used to be back when I sat at the computer with coffee and cigarettes. Without the cigarettes I can still write a short essay, but I could not write something longer. I just hit the wall and end up abandoning everything I try to work on. I even had to start smoking again temporarily in order to finish my master's dissertation! I have just been diagnosed with the attention deficit variant of ADHD, and realised I was basically using smoking to self medicate and reduce the symptoms. Unfortunately I am in a high risk group for ADHD medication due to my medical history and cannot have ADHD medication. So, I have decided to go back to using nicotine, because I really struggle with the debilitating effects of ADHD, and nicotine does work for me. But, I am not going to smoke again, nor will I vape chew tobacco or take snuff because the health and addiction risks are so high with them. However, nicotine gum, patches, lozenges and sprays are a different matter. I have started using the lozenges, and though it is too early to tell if it is really going to work (I have only been doing it for a few days) it does actually feel like I have got back the positive things I got from smoking without the other ghastly effects and risks of smoking, which I am very glad to be free of. It turns out nicotine is actually a very interesting chemical with a number of potential health benefits and not just for ADHD.
Seems like I have a slight aversion to nicotine. At least the gum. I don’t want to look at work or read but rather visualize it or think about it not with my eyes lol 👀 . Maybe because I’m getting used to it. I’m actually trying to use it.
Mate I hope you are back on nicotine, I've been using it for 13 years with vaping. It has many beneficial effects, ADHD among them. Just 5% the harm of smoking, maybe less.
Yah. I know dozens and dozens of ex-smokers who quit by vaping who all say the same thing. The puzzle is why ADHD patient advocacy groups don't get this. I have talked with them. They all have the same misperceptions that the general public has. This is because public health has been demonizing nicotine for many decades now, to discourage smoking. If cigarettes didn't kill people, nicotine would not have been demonized, and we would all be talking about #TherapeuticNicotine. if you think about it, it IS just a natural product derived from plants. Like caffeine.
Nicotine is a HUGE help for people with mental diagnoses. Nicotine benefits so many people! Especially when you get it from a combustion free product like vaping or pouches. Sounds like you should go back on some. ALOT of Dr's prescribe Nicotine for adhd & psychological disorders.
That was certainly a problem on a few different occasions. I don't surround myself with many people that still vape at this point but I can recall multiple occasions of having it blown pretty much directly in my face and that obviously does not help someone trying to quit lol
Unpopular opinion: nicotine is relatively easy to quit. Withdrawal symptoms are psychological in nature. Within a few days, it’s purged from your body. It’s just too accessible, which makes it much harder. Very similar to caffeine/coffee.
It seems to vary person to person and by dosage, but I can say personally that it was way worse than caffeine physically, but again it does seem to vary
Yeah it would seem that way. Physically, quitting caffeine was worse for me. 6 months caffeine free and I had the withdrawal headaches for 4 months straight. On a side note, I’ve relapsed on nicotine over the years, but reading Alan Carrs easy way to stop smoking seems to hypnotise me enough to quit for a couple years.
Nah hell no 🤣. Nicotine is a whole different beast than caffeine sorry. Way more dopamine release and it’s proven it changes the structure of the brain which increases recovery time. Caffeine is simply an adenosine antagonist, blocking feelings of sleepiness, that’s legit all it does and some minor other things, look the up the pharmacology on nicotine.
Nah hell no 🤣. Nicotine is a whole different beast than caffeine sorry. Way more dopamine release and it’s proven it changes the structure of the brain which increases recovery time.
First of all you are over complicating quitting smoking as usual like everyone, you either are that person or not, you either a addict or not, yeah you will confuse yourself that smoking is better it’s really not, your brain is looking for excuses to run back to your habit.
Currently not drinking or using nicotine. I'm so fuckin bored 💀
I’m on day 5 and I’m ready to relapse man. It’s not even the withdrawal. I think it’s just being bored.
I’m just newly diagnosed ADHD in my 30s. I use marijuana like you used nicotine. Smoking before any task provides just enough dopamine to muscle through the task. It helps make everything more “doable” but after watching this I would like to try and quit again-it’s mentally and physically hard. I’ll be following -keep it up!
Sending strength, bc it gets to where it messes you up too much to help. 🙏 💪
Bro get on vyvanse or adderall. That was me before and ended up a weed addict. My life changed for the best
Just came across your vid. Replacing a regular habit with something else will absolutely be a big deal. I wonder if that's even more of a thing than the nicotine (but I speak only from ignorance in regard to nicotine). You have a long way to go. In my early 40s and only diagnosed 2 years ago. Awareness is a huge part of the growing in life process. I spent many years while undiagnosed just stuck and not aware of anything. Sometimes taking a break from something and coming back to it gives us yet another completely different perspective, too.
If you're doing better, great! Good job!
Thank you! It definitely does get easier with time, with ADHD it definitely complicates things lol especially with the black and white thinking. Without having self awareness with ADHD, sobriety from any substance is going to be almost impossible due to how our brains work. It's definitely been a good learning experience to help learn to understand myself.
Nicotine without tobacco is NOT addictive. Nicotine is a benign and useful chemical in regards to those who may have ADHD Autism and Tourettes. It is a safer option than smoking and is the most successful option when trying to stop smoking.
I smoked cigarettes 28 yrs. I tried to quit with gum, patches, wellbrin, chantix, acupuncture, and hypnosis. Nothing seemed to work. My doctor suggested that I try nicotine vapor.
That worked day one and with ZERO side effects.
I then worked my way down to zero milligrams. Once I did that I worked my way off caffeine. That was super hard.
A few months went by and I was having a hard time focusing.
My job is detail oriented so this was concerning. I went to the doctor and told him my dilemma.
He asked did you quit nicotine and then caffeine?
I told him yes. My doctor suggested that I add back in some nicotine. (Caffeine was too hard to quit and nicotine was easier to step down)
I couldn’t believe that fixed the problem! I was so happy it wasn’t something else. He explained that nicotine helps with focus.
Now I use zero most days and add in nicotine a few days a week. Problem solved.
Congratulations on quitting smoking Sonia. Truly!
@@tchad49 thank you!
I gave up smoking five years ago after 30 years. I am newly diagnosed ADHD and never knew the association between smoking and ADHD. Your video has made me realise why giving up was so hard all those years and probably why I unconsciously replaced smoking with drinking. Thank you so much and hope it is going well for you.😊
Loving all your content on this subject . I am 17 days into quitting vaping . Feeling so much better in a lot of ways but also kinda blank mentally . Hanging in there
You described it perfectly, I have ADHD too & the first few days of quitting I felt the best I have ever felt in my life, all my senses came back stronger, smell, taste, hearing, awareness, My skin got clearer BUT after that I just felt slumped, stuck to my bed with no motivation & no replacements I did grind gym but as soon as all my friends left I went crazy, then I tried grinding Boxing but my brother stopped sparring with me I felt angry. So all my attempted replacements went to shit & my anxiety went bad bad. So yeah the most I've gone without it is probably 3 days, when I (with ADHD) quit for a couple days I do gain abit of an energy burst & natural male aggression but I had nothing to put my energy to.
I have watched a few of your videos so I thought i would finally comment. I also have adhd. Same exact issues with adhd meds. I used Nicotine from age 20-35. Im 36 now and I just finished my first full year free from nicotine. It's been absolute madness but it does get a bit easier with new coping mechanisms however something was missing. It comes down to this.. Nicotine vs. ADHD meds. vs. Constant Adversity. As I get older I begin to think more of a happy life than a long life. Thanks for sharing your experience. You have many years to figure things out.
In my early 40s and am on ADHD meds, but considering a swap to nicotine vaping as a stimulant alternative. The vape experience is a draw to me as a stim/fidget so already intend to try 0% nic juice. Curious about why you stopped or even wanted to stop. I don't know what it's like coming from smoking to vaping to trying to stop that. :)
@@cversion7 I quit because I couldn't bring my vape on my trip to Thailand and I refused to go back to cigs. So I decided i would quit before trip. That was 2 years ago. I still feel out of my mind. LOL
So nicotine affected you pretty similarly to the meds? I wonder if meds would make me super anxious and way to hyper aware just like the nicotine does.
help me understand Chris. You and Will both KNOW nicotine was helping you control your ADHD symptoms. You must know there are safe sources of nicotine (patches, gum, lozenges, vapes, pouches). Why quit it? Turn this around. The CDC literally calls nicotine patches, gum and lozenges "medical nicotine." Consider this concept: #TherapeuticNicotine. And give some thought to why nicotine, which doesn't cause cancer, heart or lung disease, has been demonized.
Here because I actually relapsed from vaping a year after and the part you said about it being a even bigger temptation is real asf so I'm resonating with you hard asf
I have adhd, anxiety disorder and depression so it's a massive struggle, with a mom who smokes cigarettes and being in college everyone vaping around me the triggers are hardcore.
I'd love to hear what you do when you get those gut punch cravings even when the actual drug is out of your system
I needed this. I'm struggling so hard...I'm an artist and I'm 10 Mos in and I literally cannot finish a project. I've been patient with myself but I literally cannot focus. Cannot paint. I'm pretty close to just saying F it.
You got this, continue to move forward with your desire to not want to use nicotine, to not be enslaved to it.
Low dose ketamine. High B and D vitamins. Quit gluten and any alcohol..... you'll feel way better in 1 week. Promise. Stay strong, focus on body health.
@@jamesbryson9542thank you so much! I'm microdosing atm but ketamine! I live in Alaska and wouldn't have any clue as to where to aquire any. I really appreciate this seriously...
Thank you for talking about this, seeing these video's is keeping my busy from not smoking aswel!
Vaping is not smoking. There is zero combustion, or tar
I just recently learned that people with ADHD self medicate with nicotine/tobacco. I also just learned that lots of bad things happen when you have unmanaged ADHD. I quit smoking at the beginning of 2023 not knowing any of that. I knew I had ADHD but I never seen it as a problem, apparently because I spent most of my life with it mostly managed by cigarettes. Then I decided to quit smoking.
To make a long story short, I went off the deep end. Wife called crisis and a month later I’m still unmanaged. That’s mainly because the VA diagnosed me with CUD and, more or less, refuses to treat the ADHD and instead only one of the peripheral symptoms, unless I forgo stimulant treatment and pot.
Anyway, the moral of the story is, if you have ADHD and you want to quit smoking, then do yourself a favor and be sure you’re managing your symptoms, preferably, with a stimulant since that’s what you’re giving up.
courage mon gars, you got this
I'm here watching this on day 2 of no cigarette.
I have ADHD, diagnosed at 6. I smoked for 20 years. Quit. Now I medicate my ADHD with nicotine patches. Nicotine patches are a great way to balance an ADHD brain.
Thank you for sharing!
Dude you're literally me, if I don't smoke I start drinking loads of coffee and I'll drink loads of alcohol
Nicotine detox in the brain takes 90 days. Start cardio, vitamins, caffiene, l-theanine. L-tyrosine.... even PEA/phenylalaine (dopamine precussors). Between vaping nicotine or drinking, vaping is a better addiction. Gum helps. Low-dose ketamine helps for addiction. Do NOT drink w ADHD.... it makes exec dysfunction 10 times worse.
I needed to hear this, it's so true to my own journey with this. Buddying up with someone is the best way I find to deal with this part of the journey. I'm here for you bud, you got this.
Dear Will: I am so so sympathetic to your situation. Here's how I see it. Nicotine was clearly helping you control your #ADHD symptoms (#TherapeuticNicotine). This is not surprising. Numerous studies show transdermal nicotine patches reduce ADHD symptoms. If you take nicotine from a safe source, there is no downside. It might even help you reduce your prescription meds, which you know can have nasty side-effects (and ARE addictive). So who convinced you that it was a good idea to stop something that was helping you? I have to assume it's the past 4 decades of demonizing nicotine by researchers and experts in the field of tobacco control. They demonized nicotine for a super good reason, to reduce cigarette use. But this demonization is actually a paternalistic lie. A violation of Truth-Telling, which is a fundamental moral principle in Healthcare Ethics. If cigarettes delivered caffeine, they would have demonized THAT, and no one would care about nicotine. It's just a mild stimulant that increases focus, attention and memory (like caffeine) and, unlike caffeine, also reduces stress and anxiety. In the alternate universe where cigarettes don't kill people, these mild psychoactive effects would be seen as "good for you."
Yeah dude I definitely feel you & understand! Last winter I had Covid & had a nice cough, I used that as my spring board to minimize vaping & then I pulled it off & quit 👏 I got about 7-8months in went on vacation to a diff state where my fav vape was legal, & said ok just while down here 😅 & here I am 1yr later just started adhd meds & I WANNA quit soo bad but have zero true motivation bc my brain won’t stfu 🤬 vaping helped me quit a serious Newport habit 😳 but now w/ my adhd still unchecked I’m just feening out like a crackhead.. constantly vaping for hours at a time then taking a 10 min break. It should be the opposite if anything, 2hr break then vape 10 min, I just can’t put it down since I picked it back up!? Even lowering my nic to 2.4.. only has me using it more. I’m gunna do this!!?!! You stay strong.. there is ALWAYS a light at the end of the tunnel, just keep on trucking while your still rolling 👏 😃
You want to increase your eliquids nic strength if ya want to vape less, not lower the nic strength. Your body naturally regulates the amount of nic it wants, how much it can process. I'm a dual coil dripper user, & I vape 9mg. I hit it like 3 or 4 times & then I'm done for an hour
Feel this so much, thinking of quitting again but... I feel like i need other things to be well b4 i can do it.
Also, smoking slows wound healing, might be related to skin issues.
Technically you're not craving dopamine, but craving the felling of brain releasing dopamine. Got to find other things which release dopamine that aren't toxic
Such as ?
@@saad0164 work out, sports, hobbies etc
@@MrRandyjohnson10 the problem is that to do all these things, you need quite a bit of motivation (aka dopamine) in the first place. And even then, the amount of dopamine released during those activities is not enough to make you feel good and accomplished enough to keep pursuing them afterwards.
Amphetamines if you’re ADHD
Its made my ADHD worse man 100 days in and im ready to relapse
That's how I'm feeling. I'm only 2 days in and my stimming has gone crazy. Im not able to focus on anything anymore. Then again I'm not on any meds so maybe if I get on meds things will get better idk....
@@tonimausey nah i relapsed after 110 days but 2 days after i bought the vape i threw it away and said you know what i miss the 110 days and now im back to 20 days no nic and plan to stay off forever; its a mindset thing man, build your body so atleast you’ll have something you worked towards to LOSE if you give in
@@Dame28 I'm currently day 74, I am thinking of going back on nicotine for the sake of productivity. Also, the thing no one talks about, it made me happy. What's the point of life if not to enjoy it? Is not doing a mildly problematic drug worth my happiness and liberty?
@@thezopelo try staying in shape and saying that lol, it didnt make me happy. I dont think it makes any of us happy, it’s just us that lack dopamine we seek external sources and nicotine is the best bet. Unfortunately it comes with side effects like alot of external sources. I try to convince myself i dont have adhd but then again i look back at 6 months of no progress. 6 months of barely using nicotine as well. It’s a battle man I can’t even give advice at this point. I been smoking one cigar a month for 6 months now which is basically quit; i lost alot of my productivity without it, but gained alot of health and muscle along with mental clarity and sleep.
Get on real ADHD meds then bro
great video!
Well done for quitting, very hard thing you've achieved.
But is nicotine by itself inherently bad? I’ve read that it's smoking tobacco and potentially vaping e-liquids that are harmful. There is quite a bit of research showing benefits of nicotine when it is administered via a patch, for example. Especially for people with ADHD.
Bad for arteries, causes mood swings, increased resting heart rate too I believe.
I use gum and that lowers the risk. It does carry risk related diseases. But if it helps me exercise, I'm okay with accepting that risk.
I used to be heavily addicted to smoking and it took me years and many tries to quit, which I only finally managed by using nicotine replacement patches and gum.
Unfortunately, I found that after quitting I could no longer write the way I used to be back when I sat at the computer with coffee and cigarettes. Without the cigarettes I can still write a short essay, but I could not write something longer. I just hit the wall and end up abandoning everything I try to work on. I even had to start smoking again temporarily in order to finish my master's dissertation!
I have just been diagnosed with the attention deficit variant of ADHD, and realised I was basically using smoking to self medicate and reduce the symptoms.
Unfortunately I am in a high risk group for ADHD medication due to my medical history and cannot have ADHD medication. So, I have decided to go back to using nicotine, because I really struggle with the debilitating effects of ADHD, and nicotine does work for me.
But, I am not going to smoke again, nor will I vape chew tobacco or take snuff because the health and addiction risks are so high with them. However, nicotine gum, patches, lozenges and sprays are a different matter. I have started using the lozenges, and though it is too early to tell if it is really going to work (I have only been doing it for a few days) it does actually feel like I have got back the positive things I got from smoking without the other ghastly effects and risks of smoking, which I am very glad to be free of.
It turns out nicotine is actually a very interesting chemical with a number of potential health benefits and not just for ADHD.
What addiction?
Id been clean for two and a half years and relapsed hard 6 weeks ago
Seems like I have a slight aversion to nicotine. At least the gum. I don’t want to look at work or read but rather visualize it or think about it not with my eyes lol 👀 . Maybe because I’m getting used to it. I’m actually trying to use it.
Mate I hope you are back on nicotine, I've been using it for 13 years with vaping. It has many beneficial effects, ADHD among them. Just 5% the harm of smoking, maybe less.
Yah. I know dozens and dozens of ex-smokers who quit by vaping who all say the same thing. The puzzle is why ADHD patient advocacy groups don't get this. I have talked with them. They all have the same misperceptions that the general public has. This is because public health has been demonizing nicotine for many decades now, to discourage smoking. If cigarettes didn't kill people, nicotine would not have been demonized, and we would all be talking about #TherapeuticNicotine. if you think about it, it IS just a natural product derived from plants. Like caffeine.
Nicotine is a HUGE help for people with mental diagnoses. Nicotine benefits so many people! Especially when you get it from a combustion free product like vaping or pouches. Sounds like you should go back on some. ALOT of Dr's prescribe Nicotine for adhd & psychological disorders.
maybe you are passive smoking
passive smoking is the leading cause for smoking or relapsing
That was certainly a problem on a few different occasions. I don't surround myself with many people that still vape at this point but I can recall multiple occasions of having it blown pretty much directly in my face and that obviously does not help someone trying to quit lol
Gotta eat a good diet as nicotine can buffer out all the inflammation that a crappy diet can cause
Jesus
Unpopular opinion: nicotine is relatively easy to quit. Withdrawal symptoms are psychological in nature. Within a few days, it’s purged from your body. It’s just too accessible, which makes it much harder. Very similar to caffeine/coffee.
It seems to vary person to person and by dosage, but I can say personally that it was way worse than caffeine physically, but again it does seem to vary
Yeah it would seem that way. Physically, quitting caffeine was worse for me. 6 months caffeine free and I had the withdrawal headaches for 4 months straight.
On a side note, I’ve relapsed on nicotine over the years, but reading Alan Carrs easy way to stop smoking seems to hypnotise me enough to quit for a couple years.
Nah hell no 🤣. Nicotine is a whole different beast than caffeine sorry. Way more dopamine release and it’s proven it changes the structure of the brain which increases recovery time. Caffeine is simply an adenosine antagonist, blocking feelings of sleepiness, that’s legit all it does and some minor other things, look the up the pharmacology on nicotine.
Nah hell no 🤣. Nicotine is a whole different beast than caffeine sorry. Way more dopamine release and it’s proven it changes the structure of the brain which increases recovery time.
First of all you are over complicating quitting smoking as usual like everyone, you either are that person or not, you either a addict or not, yeah you will confuse yourself that smoking is better it’s really not, your brain is looking for excuses to run back to your habit.
Honestly agreed these old videos were overly dramatic lol
Nicotine feels good until it doesn't but then you still want it and so you just feel like a slave.