Try VILTROX and fusion N/D THEY DON'T WORK ON PANASONIC OK ON OLYMPUS and fuji BUT NO PRO CAPTURE LOW Selling all gear $8K fuji, canon, speed boosters, my panasonic Lieca GLASS $$$$😥 let me explain Bought a em1x and it focus MY PANASONIC 45-200MM LENS better than my g9 😥 Major Con Olympus won't work WITH PANISONIC 😥 in pro capture low my favorite setting on my em1x
I've just purchased Tamron SP 70-300mm USD. I installed this lense using Viltrox EF-M1 mounting to my Lumix G7. Some reviews I can share: 1. Autofocus, as you said, quite slower than my native panasonic lense 2. Lens stabilizer (VC) of the lens works well in autofocus mode, but in manual focus mode this VC keep turn-off by itself every time I take a picture. I have to turn off and turn on again after take a picture to get the VCIs it purely because of compatibility issue? 3. Sharpness is very good. I am satisfied with that.
Interesting review Matti. I've found the Viltrox with a Canon 50mm f1.8 is a useful, and sharp combo' on my Lumix. Of course the AF is nothing like as fast as native lenses, but it's workable. Most useful is the f1.3 maximum aperture the Viltrox creates, making for a fast, cheap, portrait lens. At only £100ukp, it's worth having if you have Canon and MFT kit.
The only good thing is it's basically a universal adapter. If you want to mount an OM 50mm f1.8 for example you simply get an OM>EF adapter which gives you about a 72mm f1.3 equivalent.
Hey Matti, have you tried with the Metabones speed booster, this looks like a very bad focusing with the Sigma, I was thinking for this combo for event photography with my OM-1. Of course, the Pana-Leica contrast AF is far worse, but looks like even with PD AF will be bad...
it would have been helpful if you had tested the much more expensive Metabones adapter. Thus, your video doesn't give me the answer that I need because I want to know if it is possible to get really high quality results with an adapter.
I don't mean to be rude or anything, but why are complaining to me, if you are looking for a Metabones review? My video title says clearly what this video is about. I'm sure you can find a Metabones review, or many, here on RUclips. No need to complain here. Go find that Metabones review.
I use metabones for some of my canon lenses. I like the short DOF I get with sigma 18-35 and metabones. I don't get very short depth of field with my Panasonic F2.8 lenses. That being said, I don't need short DOF every time (or actually that often).
This adapter does nothing but freeze my Panasonic G7. I was so excited to get this and made sure everything was up to date and then constant freezing have to take the battery out. Contacted Viltrox and they told me it's only tested to properly work in regards to Panasonic the GH4, GH5, GH5s, GX85 and the GF1.😭
Good review, Matti. David Thorpe did a video about adapting a Nikon F mount zoom. If you can find vintage quality lenses cheap enough, and are willing to manual focus, then the speed booster might make sense.
Thanks, you saved me some €. I just have some Canon glass that aren't worth selling. Maybe I'll buy a used dslr in order to play around with them. Shall see.
Thanks. If you have the glass already and you can find the Viltrox for a good money, it may be worth experimenting. My user experience was not very satisfying though.
@@mattisulanto Well, I think that I'll put that money into another lens. If I can find a dslr for a cheap price, maybe I'll bite. Otherwise, maybe a dummy adaptor.
That's the difference between the Metabones and Viltrox. Precision and the firmware. On a long comparison I saw, I noticed the autofocus works much better with the Metabones. DFD, also, uses lens profiles for it to work quicker - can we create these profiles? Thanks!
My suggestion: I would have FIRST just tried one of the old Olympus 4/3 lenses (like 12-60mm or 14-54mm lens) with a 4/3 to m4/3 lens adapter. How is the G9's performance with this kind of setup? I would then compare the G9's performance with the Viltrox EF-M2 and 3rd party lenses to the performance with the 4/3 lenses.
So I saw one youtuber preferred the Nikon version, as the Canon versions AF was worthless and he's only using manual focus anyway and the Canon version is AF only? Most people using this setup are video content creators and us it on a tri-pod anyway. I assume the Metabones is better but it's a lot more expensive.
Thank you for your thoughts over this little adapter. Few points: the adapter seems to be unrealiable with my Sigma but not with my Canon lenses. I've thought that it may be because Sigma's backward-engineered and thus not 100% the same as Canon EF lenses. About focusing near and to infinity: the adapter can be adjusted by turning the glass element clockwise or counter clockwise. No tools needed, just a good grip with index finger and thumb. This way I've adjusted the adapter they way that all my lenses will focus to infinity with it.
Thanks for those tips. I didn't have Canon lenses available, but you could be right about the reverse engineering. My problem was only that it would not AF to very far with the Sigma at 18mm, but it would focus at infinity manually.
@@mattisulanto Oops, missed that bit @ 3:28 , just watched your video again. And wow, well that won't be fixed twisting the element. :D A Lumix camera + Metabones Speedbooster + Sigma 18-35 f/1.8 is very common combination - and nowadays Viltrox is raising its popularity over Metabones. So this might be a known problem. I haven't guugl'd about it tho. And about that common combination thingie, let's see how Panasonic 10-25mm f/1.7 will change the scene... I hope we'll see that zoom on your channel in the future. About the native Canon EF lenses, if you ever stumble upon an EF 100mm f2.0 USM lens, well that one's sharp with m4/3 even with a dummy adapter a real joy to use with Viltrox.
Just got my very affordable Pixco M42 - MFT adapter from ebay. First impressions are great! Been using it with my Helios 44M-4, and I see no difference in image quality, while getting a better focal length (about 83mm) and more light gathering. Very interesting alternative to the more clinical Olympus 45mm 1.8. There's a Mir 37mm on the way, and I'm looking forward to testing it out on the adapter. All manual of course, and I'm no pixel peeper, so maybe the Viltrox/Sigma combo is a more sensible choice for more sensible people. ;)
Thank you for the in-depth testing! I like my "straight" adapters for old/manual lenses to micro-four-thirds -- as I have a *LOT* of old lenses with various mounts. The only issues that I have had with very few lenses/adapters was infinity focus. But there are no elements to get in the way of focus (of course, manual focus) or image quality. And those "passive" adapters cost around $20 US -- a lot cheaper. Hey -- I saw Peter in your pictures! Haha! And it looks beautiful there in Helsinki!
I use manual adapters for my micro four thirds system with great results. I have not invested in speed booster adapters simply because of the reward versus investment. Thanks for sharing
So y I have an gh6 and wantwd to buy the 18-35 mm do I need a speed booster or cn I buy only an adapter? Will the af work on and adapter o I need the speed booster
super ! still debating in my mind if I should get it for my bmpcc4k and EF lenses I have, but there are options as always 1. buy cheap viltrox 2. buy more reliable expensive metabones but then 3. buy all around Lumix lens, that it the question
Great review! I own a Metabones Speedbooster 0.64 with my Lumix GH5 and I love the perfect bokeh with Rokinon lenses to say an example. I wouldn´t use native Panasonic lenses due to that leak of bokeh and that awkward distortion that a 25mm ¨converted to 50mm¨ makes. Native Panasonic lenses are more like ¨video¨, not cinema. Great review again!
Regards from Stockholm, Hi Neighbour! Off topic, but I need some help! When I set the camera to Manual in Creative Movie Mode, the shutter speed jumps from 1/50 to 1/120 the moment I press the record button and reverts to 50 upon ending the recording. I went into the menu options in Creative Movie Mode and chose Exposure Mode. I tried choosing M and S. In both cases, as soon as I press record, the shutter speed disappears from the screen and reappears after ending the shoot. Is that normal? Any ideas?
Your camera is the G9? You probably are not on manual mode. On the rear screen, there should be a small red movie camera symbol with the letter M, in the upper left corner. If the letter is not M, you are not on manual mode. If you don't see the symbol, press the DISP button until you see it. Go to menu and change your exposure mode to M, if it's not M. That's all I can think of based on what you said.
This adapter is awesome, I use it with my canon eos m50, it’s flawless , only problem is it drains battery life white it is attached to the camera even while the camera is turned off
excellent video. some help please, if i purchased the above adapter and fitted a canon 75-300mm which would become 213mm at the longest end, do I still maintain the 2x crop so it would be 426mm ? thank you in advance
Thanks. You do not have the 2x crop any more with this adapter or any similar adapter. That is the whole point. If you want to keep the crop, you have to use adapter that has no lens elements.
@@mattisulanto you got it wrong, please inform yourself more. The focal reduction applies to the whole equation, you just can`t take out the 2x micro 4/3 crop. So in the cas on the 75-300mm, at the long end you get: 300mm x 0.71 x 2 = 426mm
@@ggwildlife you got it right. The focal reduction applies to the whole equation. So in the case on the 75-300mm, at the long end you get: 300mm x 0.71 x 2 = 426mm
Hi Matti, thanks for your wonderful lectures. Quick question If I may: is there a chance to protect sensor while changing lens with shutter blinds? - someway forcing them close until lense being replaced? tx!
little twix with firmware would help but for producer that would be much easer to accomplish. Not saying the one can't be carefull enough, just part of mind would be freeied from imaginary noise. For instance, every time I open lens hole I imagine dog licks inside of camera with his tongue from beneath, along the fact, that I even don't have a dog.
Thanks for your great review! :) May I ask you something? Is it possible to use 'Burst mode' with that Viltrox EF-M2? I've heard that it's not possible to use 'Burst mode' with that adapter.
Hey did you have any trouble mounting the quarter inch tripod mount in any gimbal or tripod? Because my ef-m2 II seems to have a small hole for the standard screws that come with the zhiyun crane 2 gimbal.
I'm not quite sure what you mean, but no, I haven't had any problems with the standard 1/4 inch threaded tripod quick release plates. I don't have a gimbal, so can't comment on that.
![Viltrox EF-M2 and GH5 Three months later [Q&A April 2018]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/J3w45S0bl38/mqdefault.jpg)
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Try VILTROX and fusion N/D
THEY DON'T WORK ON PANASONIC
OK ON OLYMPUS and fuji BUT
NO PRO CAPTURE LOW
Selling all gear $8K fuji, canon, speed boosters, my panasonic Lieca GLASS $$$$😥
let me explain
Bought a em1x and it focus MY PANASONIC 45-200MM LENS better than my g9 😥
Major Con Olympus won't work WITH PANISONIC 😥
in pro capture low my favorite setting on my em1x
I've just purchased Tamron SP 70-300mm USD. I installed this lense using Viltrox EF-M1 mounting to my Lumix G7. Some reviews I can share:
1. Autofocus, as you said, quite slower than my native panasonic lense
2. Lens stabilizer (VC) of the lens works well in autofocus mode, but in manual focus mode this VC keep turn-off by itself every time I take a picture. I have to turn off and turn on again after take a picture to get the VCIs it purely because of compatibility issue?
3. Sharpness is very good. I am satisfied with that.
Thanks for sharing.
I use it only for videos on the GH5. Forgot the autofocus…Manuel focus doing videos. I use the non glass version for photography.
You have to calibrate the adaptor for infinity focus first.
Interesting review Matti. I've found the Viltrox with a Canon 50mm f1.8 is a useful, and sharp combo' on my Lumix. Of course the AF is nothing like as fast as native lenses, but it's workable. Most useful is the f1.3 maximum aperture the Viltrox creates, making for a fast, cheap, portrait lens. At only £100ukp, it's worth having if you have Canon and MFT kit.
I've heard that people use that cheap Canon 50mm and that it works well.
The only good thing is it's basically a universal adapter. If you want to mount an OM 50mm f1.8 for example you simply get an OM>EF adapter which gives you about a 72mm f1.3 equivalent.
Hey Matti, have you tried with the Metabones speed booster, this looks like a very bad focusing with the Sigma, I was thinking for this combo for event photography with my OM-1. Of course, the Pana-Leica contrast AF is far worse, but looks like even with PD AF will be bad...
I have not used the Metabones.
it would have been helpful if you had tested the much more expensive Metabones adapter. Thus, your video doesn't give me the answer that I need because I want to know if it is possible to get really high quality results with an adapter.
I don't mean to be rude or anything, but why are complaining to me, if you are looking for a Metabones review? My video title says clearly what this video is about. I'm sure you can find a Metabones review, or many, here on RUclips. No need to complain here. Go find that Metabones review.
I use metabones for some of my canon lenses. I like the short DOF I get with sigma 18-35 and metabones. I don't get very short depth of field with my Panasonic F2.8 lenses. That being said, I don't need short DOF every time (or actually that often).
This adapter does nothing but freeze my Panasonic G7. I was so excited to get this and made sure everything was up to date and then constant freezing have to take the battery out. Contacted Viltrox and they told me it's only tested to properly work in regards to Panasonic the GH4, GH5, GH5s, GX85 and the GF1.😭
Good review, Matti. David Thorpe did a video about adapting a Nikon F mount zoom. If you can find vintage quality lenses cheap enough, and are willing to manual focus, then the speed booster might make sense.
Thanks. True, adapted vintage lenses may make sense.
Thanks, you saved me some €. I just have some Canon glass that aren't worth selling. Maybe I'll buy a used dslr in order to play around with them. Shall see.
Thanks. If you have the glass already and you can find the Viltrox for a good money, it may be worth experimenting. My user experience was not very satisfying though.
@@mattisulanto Well, I think that I'll put that money into another lens. If I can find a dslr for a cheap price, maybe I'll bite. Otherwise, maybe a dummy adaptor.
That's the difference between the Metabones and Viltrox. Precision and the firmware. On a long comparison I saw, I noticed the autofocus works much better with the Metabones. DFD, also, uses lens profiles for it to work quicker - can we create these profiles? Thanks!
I don't think it would be easy or possible to make your own DFD profiles.
My suggestion: I would have FIRST just tried one of the old Olympus 4/3 lenses (like 12-60mm or 14-54mm lens) with a 4/3 to m4/3 lens adapter. How is the G9's performance with this kind of setup? I would then compare the G9's performance with the Viltrox EF-M2 and 3rd party lenses to the performance with the 4/3 lenses.
Thanks for your input.
So I saw one youtuber preferred the Nikon version, as the Canon versions AF was worthless and he's only using manual focus anyway and the Canon version is AF only? Most people using this setup are video content creators and us it on a tri-pod anyway. I assume the Metabones is better but it's a lot more expensive.
Thank you for your thoughts over this little adapter. Few points: the adapter seems to be unrealiable with my Sigma but not with my Canon lenses. I've thought that it may be because Sigma's backward-engineered and thus not 100% the same as Canon EF lenses. About focusing near and to infinity: the adapter can be adjusted by turning the glass element clockwise or counter clockwise. No tools needed, just a good grip with index finger and thumb. This way I've adjusted the adapter they way that all my lenses will focus to infinity with it.
Thanks for those tips. I didn't have Canon lenses available, but you could be right about the reverse engineering. My problem was only that it would not AF to very far with the Sigma at 18mm, but it would focus at infinity manually.
@@mattisulanto Oops, missed that bit @ 3:28 , just watched your video again. And wow, well that won't be fixed twisting the element. :D A Lumix camera + Metabones Speedbooster + Sigma 18-35 f/1.8 is very common combination - and nowadays Viltrox is raising its popularity over Metabones. So this might be a known problem. I haven't guugl'd about it tho. And about that common combination thingie, let's see how Panasonic 10-25mm f/1.7 will change the scene... I hope we'll see that zoom on your channel in the future. About the native Canon EF lenses, if you ever stumble upon an EF 100mm f2.0 USM lens, well that one's sharp with m4/3 even with a dummy adapter a real joy to use with Viltrox.
I can't say if there are variations between samples, but that's what happened with my combination.
Just got my very affordable Pixco M42 - MFT adapter from ebay. First impressions are great! Been using it with my Helios 44M-4, and I see no difference in image quality, while getting a better focal length (about 83mm) and more light gathering. Very interesting alternative to the more clinical Olympus 45mm 1.8. There's a Mir 37mm on the way, and I'm looking forward to testing it out on the adapter.
All manual of course, and I'm no pixel peeper, so maybe the Viltrox/Sigma combo is a more sensible choice for more sensible people. ;)
Thank you for the in-depth testing! I like my "straight" adapters for old/manual lenses to micro-four-thirds -- as I have a *LOT* of old lenses with various mounts. The only issues that I have had with very few lenses/adapters was infinity focus. But there are no elements to get in the way of focus (of course, manual focus) or image quality. And those "passive" adapters cost around $20 US -- a lot cheaper. Hey -- I saw Peter in your pictures! Haha! And it looks beautiful there in Helsinki!
Thanks. Helsinki is very nice and pretty😀
I use manual adapters for my micro four thirds system with great results. I have not invested in speed booster adapters simply because of the reward versus investment. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for your input.
So y I have an gh6 and wantwd to buy the 18-35 mm do I need a speed booster or cn I buy only an adapter? Will the af work on and adapter o I need the speed booster
thanks for that ; ) great review
Good honest review 👍
super ! still debating in my mind if I should get it for my bmpcc4k and EF lenses I have, but there are options as always 1. buy cheap viltrox 2. buy more reliable expensive metabones but then 3. buy all around Lumix lens, that it the question
Thanks.
Great review! I own a Metabones Speedbooster 0.64 with my Lumix GH5 and I love the perfect bokeh with Rokinon lenses to say an example. I wouldn´t use native Panasonic lenses due to that leak of bokeh and that awkward distortion that a 25mm ¨converted to 50mm¨ makes. Native Panasonic lenses are more like ¨video¨, not cinema. Great review again!
Thank you.
yes it is but i use native canon lens on a 300 zoom is my main, and have you ever used an f1 lens they are not sharp
Good to hear you are happy with your adapter.
nice review. exactly same result on m2-ii. I should've seen this video b4 buying that.
Thanks.
I buy one, but is not here yet. I will let you know.
Regards from Stockholm,
Hi Neighbour!
Off topic, but I need some help!
When I set the camera to Manual in Creative Movie Mode, the shutter speed jumps from 1/50 to 1/120 the moment I press the record button and reverts to 50 upon ending the recording.
I went into the menu options in Creative Movie Mode and chose Exposure Mode. I tried choosing M and S. In both cases, as soon as I press record, the shutter speed disappears from the screen and reappears after ending the shoot.
Is that normal?
Any ideas?
Your camera is the G9? You probably are not on manual mode. On the rear screen, there should be a small red movie camera symbol with the letter M, in the upper left corner. If the letter is not M, you are not on manual mode. If you don't see the symbol, press the DISP button until you see it. Go to menu and change your exposure mode to M, if it's not M. That's all I can think of based on what you said.
This adapter is awesome, I use it with my canon eos m50, it’s flawless , only problem is it drains battery life white it is attached to the camera even while the camera is turned off
I've heard many Canon M50 users are satisfied and it makes more sense on the M50, because there are not many native lenses.
excellent video. some help please, if i purchased the above adapter and fitted a canon 75-300mm which would become 213mm at the longest end, do I still maintain the 2x crop so it would be 426mm ? thank you in advance
Thanks. You do not have the 2x crop any more with this adapter or any similar adapter. That is the whole point. If you want to keep the crop, you have to use adapter that has no lens elements.
@@mattisulanto thank you very much for a speedy reply it was greatly appreciated.
@@mattisulanto you got it wrong, please inform yourself more. The focal reduction applies to the whole equation, you just can`t take out the 2x micro 4/3 crop. So in the cas on the 75-300mm, at the long end you get: 300mm x 0.71 x 2 = 426mm
@@ggwildlife you got it right. The focal reduction applies to the whole equation. So in the case on the 75-300mm, at the long end you get: 300mm x 0.71 x 2 = 426mm
Hi Matti, thanks for your wonderful lectures. Quick question If I may: is there a chance to protect sensor while changing lens with shutter blinds? - someway forcing them close until lense being replaced? tx!
I don't think you can close the shutter while changing lenses, you just have to be careful not to let any dirt in when the mount is open.
little twix with firmware would help but for producer that would be much easer to accomplish. Not saying the one can't be carefull enough, just part of mind would be freeied from imaginary noise. For instance, every time I open lens hole I imagine dog licks inside of camera with his tongue from beneath, along the fact, that I even don't have a dog.
so 18-35 mm need x2x0.71 or just x0.71 for focal length? Thank you.
You use the speedbooster's multiplier.
Thank you.
Thanks for your great review! :)
May I ask you something? Is it possible to use 'Burst mode' with that Viltrox EF-M2?
I've heard that it's not possible to use 'Burst mode' with that adapter.
I don't have the adapter any more, so I can't check that, but it sounds strange.
@@mattisulanto Thanks for your reply! :)
Yeah, it sounds strange... I think it will be possible to use that mode.
Thank you!
Nice review. Very helpful.After it I will not consider to buy this adapter while its too "beta" yet. May after some firmware updates .
Thanks!. There is the Metabones speedbooster that is supposed to be better, but I have no experience on that.
@@mattisulanto Metabones cost around 500-700 euros depends of version,I think (imho)better just purchase good native lens!
@@hiresmusic its great fun but use canon lenses
Thanks for the review. Also some people say the adapter drains battery when left on camera, is it true?
I didn't notice battery drain during my use, but I can only speak for myself.
Yes, absolutely true. Also vignetting is a bit more pronounced.
HEy, nice vid. What's the difference between the Viltrox M2 and the Viltrox M2 II?
Thanks! I think the differences are cosmetic, but the optics are the same anyway.
@@mattisulanto Not personal experience, but I've seen a couple of reviews claim that the M2 II gives better image quality than the original.
@@jmhimara According to Viltrox the optics are the same on both. I can't argue, if someone says the IQ is better on the MkII😀
Thank you for the info.
Thank you for watching.
hey, do you have the EF-M2 I or EF-M2 II?
I used the mkI.
@@mattisulanto thanks!
Thank you so much~
You're welcome 😊
Hey did you have any trouble mounting the quarter inch tripod mount in any gimbal or tripod? Because my ef-m2 II seems to have a small hole for the standard screws that come with the zhiyun crane 2 gimbal.
I'm not quite sure what you mean, but no, I haven't had any problems with the standard 1/4 inch threaded tripod quick release plates. I don't have a gimbal, so can't comment on that.
Your story about viltrox was very clear to me. Thanks. Maarten
I have no idea who Maarten is, but thanks for watching anyway😀
is using adapter makes the aperture value bigger? i mean, when i use canon with f1.8 atttached with viltrox m1 adapter it’ll be f.2.6?
The effective max aperture changes to a smaller number. Your F1.8 becomes F0.9.
@@mattisulanto F1.8 would become about F1.3.