Just a bit of a technical note.... the "unpolished" mounts are not only unpolished, but not plated. In other words, raw aluminum. The "polished" mounts are not only polished, but plated which gives them their shiny appearance. The raw aluminum will shed just a little bit of itself... that blasted finish coarseness will begin to wear. And where do the bits go? Right inside your camera body, to the shutter, and to the sensor. Or into the lens. AVOID ANY UNPLATED (unpolished) MOUNTS LIKE THE PLAGUE!
@L.Lavender If its shiny, like a bumper, its plated. If its black, its anodized (unplated). If its sort of matte/dull its unplated. If it has a "brushed" finish.... hard to say, possibly either way - might have to ask questions, but probably just cut and unblasted aluminum. Anodizing can be black, any color, or even clear, as the "color" is just a dye applied during the processing of the part. Anodizing makes the metal a little more resistant to wear (but not much more). A plated finish will be "bright" in color, while even polished aluminum will not be. Naturally, brass is unplated. Stainless steel need not be plated, but I have never seen stainless on a lens, only camera bodies. The idea is, the chrome plating, rubbing on stainless lens mount on the body is very very durable. You can look at old Nikkor lenses from the 1960 and they only have very minor wear. The mating surface of the body will have no wear whatsoever. A quality mount will be plated, either brass or aluminum. Classically, its chrome on brass. If you buy online, naturally, make sure of the vendor's return policy. Hope that helps!
I know everyone mentions it but Viltrox makes a good EF-M adapter that I have been using without any issues for a while now. The metal isn't polished like Mark recommends here but feels solid and there isn't any wiggle or gaps and the construction feels solid.
@@CheapGeek Yeah not too many people point their lenses towards the sun. However, the issue exists with the Viltrox and not with the authentic adapter. Feel free to have a look at some of the videos here clearly documenting it.
So I just bought a Fringer EF-NZ II. Adapter perfected. Metal body with brass mounts and weather sealing. I use it with a Canon 500mm f4 L IS II and sometimes a 1.4x III on a Nikon Z8.
Thanks! You may have saved my camera. I bought one from a different well respected manufacturer. The lens side was so tight it was actually grinding against the lens mount when being attached. The camera side locked and the adapter worked, but there was significant play allowing the camera to move in respect to the adapter. I bought the good one that you looked at and that fits perfectly.
Thanks for the tip, Mark, I got the 'Good EF to EF-M Adapter' you recommended for my EOS Mark II so that I can use the EF Lens series. I just picked up an awesome lens, the EFS 55-250 mm, and this adapter will be great for that. I also read the reviews and they look good, so that's a plus!
If you look into the adapters throat that you would put an EF (for an EF to EF-M) lens onto, behind the three lugs, you will see a banana shaped spring-steel element. This makes a good spring-loaded connection with the EF lens. The Viltrox has this type. The bad adapter had the terrible "cut and pry open type". A slice is made into the mount metal and a tapered object is inserted into the gap to force a bulge in the metal. There is not enough elastic tension in this brass or whatever metal and it bends back, making your lens slack on the mount. Most $10 to $20 types are the bad kind. Unusually the Neewer despite being $35 'ish it has the cut type mount tensioner, what were they thinking. Hope this helps. I have cheap teleconverters from 30 years ago that used the bad tensioner method. I cannot believe they still use that technique today for the sake of a few cents. 🤨
Having used 4/3 and M43 cameras since their beginning I can say that I have also used lens adaptors for the same period. Something canon and nikon users are relatively new to. I agree with your comments generally but not so much about buying the $49 one over the $24 one. Why? well you answered that yourself in the video. You got one good one and one bad one. The cheap one was reasonable and you queried the longevity of it. Well, if its life is half its still cheaper. As for the matt finish the metal used would be more important than having a matt finish. Also a black anodised flange coupling reduces any chance of reflections internally so chrome is not so good other than the actual mating surface. And also and quite critical the contact pins MUST be well finished smooth and depressable with ease or you will cause fatal rips to the lens or camera connections.
Both of my Meike's (the one with control ring and the one with ND Filter) had the screws come loose and my camera body fell off onto the pavement (TWICE). Thank goodness I had a SmallRig cage on my R7. I still have the Meike's, but I removed every screw and put permanent Locktight adhesive on them. So far, so good.
When you're right, you're right. I am having all of the problems you speak of and will be sending it back. It won't read my 50mil at all and 18-200 is intermittent. But you are also right about NEEWER as a company, I have bought several pieces of kit over the last few years and they have all been good and reliable. Everyone deserves a non starter now and then.
I purchased altson adaptor for my little canon eos r50. In low light it would switch to MF and would lock up shutter for good 2 to 3 mins. It happened on several lenses. I then went and bought a canon adapter used on eBay. The new one works great.
I just bought a Sigma MC-11 adapter. It was a mistake. It seemed like it might not do well with non Sigma lenses based on some of the comments I was reading but the Adorama rep said they thought it would work for my purposes. I have had good luck with Sigma and with the Adorama recommendation I decided to buy it. Results: Works fine with my Sigma 18-250 mm zoom and my Sigma 150-600 Sport zoom. It came up as non compatible with my Canon 50 mm f1.4 . The autofocus didn't work and there may have been other issues. It also came up as incompatible with my Canon 65mm macro lens. Autofocus wasn't an issue since the Canon 65mm doesn't have autofocus, but it seemed to be struggling to take pictures which maybe should have been expected since the compatibility LED says it's not compatible. I was surprised at how inexpensive some of the adapters that were discussed in this video are. The Metabones adapter which is what I thought I'd buy now is about $400. Can the best of the less expensive adapters do what the Metabones can?
I'm not surprised that 7Artisans is doing a decent job - their lenses are exceptional for the price - they know what they're doing. You've raised a couple of points I have to go look at with my adapters. Thanks! Lastly - something else - I've also found adapters are fairly careless about reflection control. Just relying on black anodizing or black plastic seems common. I'm going to grab some of that super-absorbent black paint - I think it'll improve the performance of the adapters significantly.
I have seen very high quality videos related to photography and video works, but when I check these professionals subscribers it is very very less, including this one. But in India, you can see very very low grade videos without any effort and people subscribe them and follow them. If you see their subscribers it will be millions. In my locality one fellow reached 1million within one month or less and RUclips got confused, which button to send first😅. He made video on that also. He was funny though. But feel bad for these professionals, who doesn't score in this, even after putting these much effort. God bless.
You should take a look at the K&F adaptors. They are very well made. Just bought 3 types ; LM - EOS-M , LM - Micro4/3 and LM - EOS R mount. All works perfectly.
i ordered the 7artisans se-fe adapter because of your vid and i thank you for that. :) i hope you'll make a review of this adapter soon and show the AF performance.
I have the meike adapter you showed in this video. It perfectly works for me. Cheap, and stable enough. As it's so cheap, I just leave it on my ef lenses and buy a new adapter with the lens im buying, so i never have to remove it from the lens, it just always stays on. Its a tiny bit wobbly with bigger lenses, but works fine. The shoe isn't a problem with the smallrig cage for the m50
@@Cloudseth why should it only work with meike lenses? There is nothing of any sort of firmware on that (it has no chip inside), so the lens and camera can't even differentiate between the two. There is surely something else thats wrong thefe
BE VERY CAREFUL. The screws will loosen over time and the post will come detached from the body when any pressure is applied. I had my body completely detach and hit the pavement twice (using 2 different Meike's... The one with control ring and the one with drop in ND filter). Loktight to the rescue. I also bought a different brand adapter in addition.
@@J.K.productionsDE I'm glad to hear that. I've used it on my 400 F2.8 and really didn't have a problem (other than being loose) but it is always on a tripod or monopod (monopod 95% of the time). Both times it fell off were with my 100-400. I suppose it may be the lens itself that doesn't like the adapter. No problems with it and 2 other brands (Viltrox being one I borrowed). I had it on camera strap when it disconnected. Strap connected to lens foot. I now have a strap that connects to camera body as well as lens foot to prevent another disaster... LOL. - FYI - I responded from a different account. This is @andrewccm.
I have an Andoer EF to EF-M adapter that no one should ever get. The screws eventually get loose. Not only did this often disrupt the electronic connection between AF lenses and the camera, when they got loose enough, but there was a very real danger of the screws popping out during disassembly and dropping into the sensor. Switched to a Viltrox along with a speed booster and never had any issues since.
Always test the adaptor carefully. With e-mount the contacts are often a problem and get pushed in too far. Once that happens you need to take apart the camera and back the spring pads. Fix this by taking off the metal ring of the adaptor and back it with some plastic sheets until it fits better. With a loose connection you can carefully bang the wings on the disassembled ring to make it tighter. Btw even some of my high quality lenses have matte rings, my guess is your high polish one might even be chrome which could get bad with age.
Right. And if a lens is heavy enough to need one then you really want to be using that instead of the adapter's. Let the lens bear the weight of the camera and adapter instead of the adapter bearing the weight of the camera and the lens.
None of the information presented is really conclusive of anything. It is not even clear how the 'bad' adapter will break your camera. 1. Obviously harder metals will always scratch softer metals. The mount on a Canon body is usually brass plated with nickel. You cannot automatically conclude that the matte metal mount on the adapter is hard enough to scratch the body mount. It most likely is made of a cheap, softer metal. 2. Just because a mount looks shiny and polished doesn't mean it is better. For all we know, the shine is just a thin layer of chrome plating on soft metal. Given the price point, the thin, brittle chrome is more likely to peel and chip off leaving small shards of chrome in the body.
Fair points, the adapter metal is soft for sure, it was leaving metal shavings in the camera, but you could also see the marks it left on the camera mount,
I bought a Metabones Leica M to MFT adapter a month or so back. I had to send it back. It was impossible to mount the lens onto the adapter and the adapter onto the camera without considerable force. Yes, I did read the ' explanation ' about why these adapters are so tight, but sorry I couldn't buy it. Adapters are supposed to be snug, and not a friction fit. I wrote this to say that even these so called expensive adapters foul up.
The best performing adapter I had is the fringer eos-fx autofocus adapter, focuses even faster than my 5Ds on XT-3 with the same lenses, but it wobbles a little bit when I use 70-200mm f2.8 II. However, fringer’s Nikon g to fx adapter only works when there’s enough light, and it’s slow, even with some of Nikon’s fastest focusing lenses, nearly unusable for video. Viltrox’s build quality is undoubtedly the best as third party, but it works terribly on my XT-3, autofocus is almost unusable, and it’s nearly useless with some old EF lenses with manual focus, because it changes its focus point by itself even if turned af off on both the lens and the body, terrible experience. I assume it would work fine with lenses that autofocusing is broken. I also have to point out that some of the third party auto adapters may break your camera body’s chips, I heard it from a Panasonic dealer. However, some of the most expensive adapters produced by the same company as the camera body are the most reliable and rugged ones, and if it did harm to your camera body, you can go for the customer service. That’s all my personal experience and opinion, hope it can help.
Have had a used metabones EF/m43 speedbooster for several years. Fits very snug lens and camera body with ease to apply and remove; even with one hand and the camera mounted. After years of use, works like I bought it yesterday. Recently purchased a Viltrox speedbooster for a backup microCinema Camera EF/m43 and do not recommend this adapter. I’ve used it twice and it’s a disappointment. Although good reviews, it works great once adapted, but is rough to put on and remove. Definitely need two hands and feels like I’m forcing it on/off. I feel after a while it will damage the metal connectors on the camera body and all of my lenses The metabones is SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive, but recommend that brand over all, for the longevity of my camera body and lenses. To me the few hundred more dollars in a quality adapter is far less expensive than camera body repairs and new lenses
Hi Tony. I recently bought a Metabones EF-M43 adapter (not speedbooster), to use with my Olympus OM-D EM-1 Mark III. The lens is Canon TS-e 17mm. Once attached, everything is black. Any ideas why it's not working? I have ordered a different adapter, but it's the one you don't recommend. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Add Neewer to the bad list. I bought the EF to RF for my R7, it lost contact so often as I zoomed in or out. I missed so many pictures of cut many videos short thanks to it. I used it for all of a day, and went official Canon...once I found one, out of stock everywhere.
I have a Sony 70-200mm F4 G lens and that DOES NOT have a polished mount and neither do my other two Sony lenses so that is a spurious argument. I use Urth and K&F Concept adaptors both of which have black anodised metal connectors, which at a glance could be mistaken for plastic.
I would trust an unpolished (machined) Sony mount. When we are talking about $30-50 adapters, the machining almost certainly won’t be g-master level, and you can feel the resistance when you put them them on the camera. Polished mounts are a much safer bet, and they don’t feel like they are grinding you camera mount, each time you use them.
efm adapter are quite cheap so its worth it to just buy the more expensive one, but start looking into adapting canon ef to m43 or fuji x then the price gap becomes massive anywhere from 50 to over 300 buy the cheap one n see if you like the combination and if youre ok with the added bulk and then decide if the expensive one is worth it
I have four adaptors for my R5: one plain, two with a control ring, one with a drop-in PL. And they are all genuine Canon, I don't cut corners on stuff that really matters.
I have two "Commlite" adapters. One sort-of went bad. I started getting lens errors on my camera, but when I switched it to another lens it worked perfectly. It's hard to recommend the Canon brand costing 400% more, but if you have the budget I would say it's a good idea. I now have a second Commlite brand that's working fine over the past year, but if it fails I'll most likely switch brands.
Hello, thank you very much for the help. I don't understand why they use plastic materials. Metal is much better. I feel like they've been making a lot of things out of plastic lately, I don't know if it's on purpose so that they don't last and we have to keep buying and buying. This week I bought a Ulanzi brand tripod and it's made of plastic. Only when you stretch it out, it's made of metal, but the base and everything else is made of plastic. I was very disappointed. I don't know if I should return the tripod or keep it, because I don't think the plastic will last me very long.
I want to say about unpolished mounts. Back in the days of film you would apply a cotton dubbed with a small amount of precision oil to lubricate the Mount. Same thing applies today on your camera lens and camera mount. So unpolished Mount is never an issue
For me it depends on how often I would use an adapter and also on the price difference compared to the first party adapter. For example, I came from a Nikon D7100 before I upgraded to the Nikon Z system. If I had swapped most of my older F mount lenses with Z mount lenses I wouldn't buy an expensive adapter for a few lenses that I rarely use. But I did keep all of my older lenses. So naturelly I wouldn't cheap out on the adapter to make sure that everything works perfectly 100% of the time. Luckily I got the bundle with the FTZ adapter when I got my Z50 and I just kept it when I got the Z7 II. Also, here in Germany if I were to buy a third party adapter, say from Viltrox, I would save a *whopping* 20 bucks compared to the Nikon FTZ II adapter... With a price difference like that I wouldn't even consider the third party adapter and always go for the Nikon adapter. I would only consider a third party adapter in that case if the first party adapter wasn't available. Which used to be the case with Nikon's FTZ adapter but now it's always in stock.
Oh, and this may surprise you, but Nikon doesn’t polish or chrome-plate their lens mounts. They're machined to a "satin" finish. Machining is a high tolerance operation: plating and polishing destroy that high tolerance.
What is the all plastic one you used to recommend? I'm only adapting the HOLGA HL-C Canon DSLR Holga lens you mentioned in another video so surely a cheap plastic one will be ok?
I'm thankful that I'm returning to photography as a hobby. I've watched literally every single arrest video on the internet, so I bought a Canon r100 for 237 and I'm slapping all my EF lenses on it and I'm getting primed to buy new lenses and throw away tons of money on a new full frame camera thank you for all of your videos this is a great hobby, and, it must be said, it is very cost effective, once you've spent $10,000 or so
I’m using a Sigma M11 to use a canon lenses on Sony A7C and it works great except no continuous af in video mode. Not a problem though as I use a Sony 24-105 f4 G OSS on the main A7C.
Newer puts their name on random batches of stuff from several different factories, so there's no real consistency across the brand. You can order the same thing a few months later and get a product that superficially resembles the last one you bought but is made to entirely different tolerances.
Reallly love your videos you do the comparisons that I’m looking for all the time. From these adapters to budget lenses. One thing I notice though is that you don’t say the names of the items much. I know you out them in the description for us to find but is there a reason for that? Just curious! Keep up the good work!
I kind of think it's Mark's way of maximising his click-through rate. It can be annoying from the UK as often amazon asks to switch to US website or I get a search result rather than a specific device. Eg. Here I can't even be sure which is the bad adapter!
I am considering switching from Nikon to Sony. I have collected over a dozen Nikon lenses over the last 50 years. So, is there a good Nikon AF and AF S lenses to a Sony camera mirrorless E mount?
Is there any good adapters that go from Nikon F mount lens to sony E mount camera? Your videos are great btw and I have bought many things from your videos!
I've had a Viltrox ef to efm adapter for a year now. I do use it a lot! Isn't that what they are for. I am now finding that i have the same problems with movement between the lens and the mount. And not just a small amount. I am now going back to a Canon genuine ef to efm adapter (which i see you don't compare in this video, strangely). So not a complete review in my opinion
I have a Viltrox RF to EF and it drained my R6 even when the camera was off so EVERY time I pulled the camera out it was dead. Drove me mad. I hated my camera. That device gave me the crappiest $4000 camera experience for 2 years until I discovered the R6 was not to blame. The Viltrox (with control ring) cost $170. Replaced it with the $350 Canon and the camera instantly had new life and respect. That Viltrox was very costly.
Just looking at my Neewer with CPL built in, to see if it’s polished or not. It’s not. It’s machined. However! My R50 is EXACTLY the same finish on the mating surface of the body - machined, NOT polished. So is your point still valid? At the lens end, the EF-S 55-250mm I have on at the moment is plastic against the machined alloy of the Neewer. There is also zero wobble on all the parts when assembled (for those who might be considering the one with the CPL built in).
I purchased a viltrox one to use with my 18-135mm lens, was good at first and now is loose, and disconnects occasionally and generally feels like its gonna break the camera.
I've amassed a nice collection of MC/MD Minolta lenses over the years. I WAS excited to come across this video HOWEVER my phone won't allow me to open any of the links.😢
Hi. DO you know of a good adapter for contax/yashica lens to sony Nex7. I have some really good zeis lens for an older contax 35mm I would like to try. thanks
I have a canon M50 and my friend got a canon rebel t6, she also got good lenses for her camera. I want to use her lenses in my M50, which of the 2 good adapters should I buy? I am new to cameras. thanks
Hi, If I use Canon's EF 24-105 F4 lens and put it on a SONY full-frame camera with the one you say it good, will I need to turn on the APS-C mode? Will there be black corners? Thank you
I was looking for the EF-RF adapter that had the drop-in filters. 7artisans doesn't seem to make one. Meike's is all metal. And the variable ND filter by Canon is garbage, shifting to a distinct blue tint at -3, unusable by -4.
Excellent video. What about the ones with ND filters built in? Those are very important for video applications. Can we just go by company/brand name? Thanks.
The 7artisan ef to e mount adapter said it is a speedbooster. Does it have a lens in the adapter? If I want to mount a EF lens on a FF sony, will it change the focal link? Thx.
I have a adapter that you recommend one. When I using with that adapter, although I'm not touching shutter button, but auto focus is tracking. Is that normal?
I wish you had put the model you were talking about. I have the viltrox EF to E mount adapter which is rubbish. Terrible vignetting, and yes, not polished, as well losing contact. I also find light is behaving differently within the adapter, as I am seeing blooming 'beside' light sources. Just letting people know on every EF lens I use, awful vignetting.
ok amazon ITALY, 7artisans EF-SE hasn't any feedback, I see that there are other adapters like K&F Concept EF/EF-S to E Mount that have 4,5 stars reviews and another of VILTROX EF-NEX IV that has 4 stars... anyway all have some issue about some compatibility and slow autofocus sometimes. They also are more expansive than 7artisans EF-SE do you think that 7artisans EF-SE is the best from all ?
I own the sigma mc-11 adapter and have had success with a tokina 11-16mm f2.8 lens, but I just bought an older sigma 105mm F2.8 Macro lens and when I put it on the adapter two issues arrise, first if the AF is set to on it does not work but the af motor runs constantly, works fine if i turn off the af and run MF. The other issue is the Aperture does not seem to work it seems to be in f2.8, If I put the camera in manual mode it will not work, if I put it in A mode then I can set things and the camera will adjust the speed but it honestly does not look like it is changing the aperture in the lens. Online I read some review stating that these older sigma lenses had issues with newer canon cameras. I tried it on a friends 5D and it just gave an error message. Do you think there is a chance that the 7 Artisans adapter might let it work correctly as it really is a nice Macro lens
I actually just heard back from Sigma, and learned that the EX line of lenses will not work with the adaptors as they were only for film cameras, not compatible with DSLR Read in to that what you will. So my 105 Macro will never work correctly on my sony.....
Have you tried the Viltrox EF-E5 adapter? Seems like a good option too. Not too many videos or reviews of it. I'm about to change from my Canon to Sony and I need adapter for at least some time to use my Canon L lenses at Sony body. It would be too expensive to change them all at once to Sony equivalent lenses and if it works well I might not even need change all of them.
I´ve bought it for a6500, and autofocus only works when clicking the focus button, not really on its own. But that´s probably some firmware problem, otherwise the build quality is amazing
Does anyone know that once you use that adapter for the cannon lens to Sony body if that then means you have to go into crop mode or can you use the cannon lens in full frame mode on like the a7iii for example
I have a Sony A6000 and I purchased a Sony 75-300mm f/4.5-5.6 Alpha A-Mount Telephoto Zoom Lens. What adapter will make this lens work for my camera or should I purchase a new lens.
Well this video makes me think twice before buying an adapter. Now i just got my viltrox ef nex iv for my a5100. The ef/efs lenses i put in adapter feel solid and good except the efs 18-55 is iii. There is a small gap between adapter and lens mount not a big deal at all since i tested in my room with bright light source. Then the adapter mount itself now kinda feel a little bit wiggle or i dont know how to say that, it just feel not absolute solid. I thought maybe a5100 not too good for and adapter maybe i should get a a6000 or higher, lol. I feel like the a6000 mount should be more solid than a5100 if using with an adapter.
Just a bit of a technical note.... the "unpolished" mounts are not only unpolished, but not plated. In other words, raw aluminum. The "polished" mounts are not only polished, but plated which gives them their shiny appearance. The raw aluminum will shed just a little bit of itself... that blasted finish coarseness will begin to wear. And where do the bits go? Right inside your camera body, to the shutter, and to the sensor. Or into the lens.
AVOID ANY UNPLATED (unpolished) MOUNTS LIKE THE PLAGUE!
How do you make sure what is polished because it’s almost impossible to tell buying online in the photos
@L.Lavender
If its shiny, like a bumper, its plated. If its black, its anodized (unplated). If its sort of matte/dull its unplated. If it has a "brushed" finish.... hard to say, possibly either way - might have to ask questions, but probably just cut and unblasted aluminum. Anodizing can be black, any color, or even clear, as the "color" is just a dye applied during the processing of the part. Anodizing makes the metal a little more resistant to wear (but not much more).
A plated finish will be "bright" in color, while even polished aluminum will not be. Naturally, brass is unplated. Stainless steel need not be plated, but I have never seen stainless on a lens, only camera bodies. The idea is, the chrome plating, rubbing on stainless lens mount on the body is very very durable. You can look at old Nikkor lenses from the 1960 and they only have very minor wear. The mating surface of the body will have no wear whatsoever.
A quality mount will be plated, either brass or aluminum. Classically, its chrome on brass.
If you buy online, naturally, make sure of the vendor's return policy.
Hope that helps!
Thank you! @@custommaid3832
I know everyone mentions it but Viltrox makes a good EF-M adapter that I have been using without any issues for a while now. The metal isn't polished like Mark recommends here but feels solid and there isn't any wiggle or gaps and the construction feels solid.
It can cause big issues with flare because it's not flocked inside like the real adapter.
I have been using one as well on my eos-M6 and no issues at all
Been using Viltrox EOS M adapter for years. Have had zero issues.
@@CheapGeek Yeah not too many people point their lenses towards the sun. However, the issue exists with the Viltrox and not with the authentic adapter. Feel free to have a look at some of the videos here clearly documenting it.
I have also been happy with the performances of my Viltrox adapter and Speed booster.
So I just bought a Fringer EF-NZ II. Adapter perfected. Metal body with brass mounts and weather sealing. I use it with a Canon 500mm f4 L IS II and sometimes a 1.4x III on a Nikon Z8.
Thanks! You may have saved my camera. I bought one from a different well respected manufacturer. The lens side was so tight it was actually grinding against the lens mount when being attached. The camera side locked and the adapter worked, but there was significant play allowing the camera to move in respect to the adapter. I bought the good one that you looked at and that fits perfectly.
i wish you’d name them. your links don’t work for me in Mexico :(
Thanks for the tip, Mark, I got the 'Good EF to EF-M Adapter' you recommended for my EOS Mark II so that I can use the EF Lens series. I just picked up an awesome lens, the EFS 55-250 mm, and this adapter will be great for that. I also read the reviews and they look good, so that's a plus!
I'm in Canada so the link isn't showing which specific adapter. Which adapter is the good one?
If you look into the adapters throat that you would put an EF (for an EF to EF-M) lens onto, behind the three lugs, you will see a banana shaped spring-steel element.
This makes a good spring-loaded connection with the EF lens. The Viltrox has this type. The bad adapter had the terrible "cut and pry open type". A slice is made into the mount metal and a tapered object is inserted into the gap to force a bulge in the metal.
There is not enough elastic tension in this brass or whatever metal and it bends back, making your lens slack on the mount.
Most $10 to $20 types are the bad kind. Unusually the Neewer despite being $35 'ish it has the cut type mount tensioner, what were they thinking. Hope this helps.
I have cheap teleconverters from 30 years ago that used the bad tensioner method. I cannot believe they still use that technique today for the sake of a few cents. 🤨
Having used 4/3 and M43 cameras since their beginning I can say that I have also used lens adaptors for the same period. Something canon and nikon users are relatively new to. I agree with your comments generally but not so much about buying the $49 one over the $24 one. Why? well you answered that yourself in the video. You got one good one and one bad one. The cheap one was reasonable and you queried the longevity of it. Well, if its life is half its still cheaper. As for the matt finish the metal used would be more important than having a matt finish. Also a black anodised flange coupling reduces any chance of reflections internally so chrome is not so good other than the actual mating surface. And also and quite critical the contact pins MUST be well finished smooth and depressable with ease or you will cause fatal rips to the lens or camera connections.
Both of my Meike's (the one with control ring and the one with ND Filter) had the screws come loose and my camera body fell off onto the pavement (TWICE). Thank goodness I had a SmallRig cage on my R7. I still have the Meike's, but I removed every screw and put permanent Locktight adhesive on them. So far, so good.
When you're right, you're right. I am having all of the problems you speak of and will be sending it back. It won't read my 50mil at all and 18-200 is intermittent. But you are also right about NEEWER as a company, I have bought several pieces of kit over the last few years and they have all been good and reliable. Everyone deserves a non starter now and then.
I purchased altson adaptor for my little canon eos r50. In low light it would switch to MF and would lock up shutter for good 2 to 3 mins. It happened on several lenses. I then went and bought a canon adapter used on eBay. The new one works great.
I just bought a Sigma MC-11 adapter. It was a mistake. It seemed like it might not do well with non Sigma lenses based on some of the comments I was reading but the Adorama rep said they thought it would work for my purposes. I have had good luck with Sigma and with the Adorama recommendation I decided to buy it.
Results: Works fine with my Sigma 18-250 mm zoom and my Sigma 150-600 Sport zoom. It came up as non compatible with my Canon 50 mm f1.4 . The autofocus didn't work and there may have been other issues. It also came up as incompatible with my Canon 65mm macro lens. Autofocus wasn't an issue since the Canon 65mm doesn't have autofocus, but it seemed to be struggling to take pictures which maybe should have been expected since the compatibility LED says it's not compatible.
I was surprised at how inexpensive some of the adapters that were discussed in this video are. The Metabones adapter which is what I thought I'd buy now is about $400. Can the best of the less expensive adapters do what the Metabones can?
Did you find the mc-11 ok f or autofocus on video? I know it works ok on photography, but I wondered about video.
I'm not surprised that 7Artisans is doing a decent job - their lenses are exceptional for the price - they know what they're doing. You've raised a couple of points I have to go look at with my adapters. Thanks! Lastly - something else - I've also found adapters are fairly careless about reflection control. Just relying on black anodizing or black plastic seems common. I'm going to grab some of that super-absorbent black paint - I think it'll improve the performance of the adapters significantly.
The amount of useful videos I am finding from you and your quality is crazy. How you only have 23k is wild.
That is so kind of you to say. It’s a thankless journey at times, it means a lot to hear that.
I was just thinking this
@@markwiemels your channel helped me allot with buying stuff for my M50 aswell, thanks for all the good content!
I have seen very high quality videos related to photography and video works, but when I check these professionals subscribers it is very very less, including this one.
But in India, you can see very very low grade videos without any effort and people subscribe them and follow them. If you see their subscribers it will be millions. In my locality one fellow reached 1million within one month or less and RUclips got confused, which button to send first😅. He made video on that also. He was funny though.
But feel bad for these professionals, who doesn't score in this, even after putting these much effort.
God bless.
You should take a look at the K&F adaptors. They are very well made. Just bought 3 types ; LM - EOS-M , LM - Micro4/3 and LM - EOS R mount. All works perfectly.
For "dumb" adapters (no electronics) that's who I use too. They are great.
@@markwiemels I have been using fully manual lenses recently especially for LM mount
I have two K&F adapters, M42 to FX and M42 to FD. Both are awesome snug clicky fit
i ordered the 7artisans se-fe adapter because of your vid and i thank you for that. :)
i hope you'll make a review of this adapter soon and show the AF performance.
I have the meike adapter you showed in this video. It perfectly works for me. Cheap, and stable enough. As it's so cheap, I just leave it on my ef lenses and buy a new adapter with the lens im buying, so i never have to remove it from the lens, it just always stays on. Its a tiny bit wobbly with bigger lenses, but works fine. The shoe isn't a problem with the smallrig cage for the m50
i used to have the same, and now its working only with meike Lenses....i had to buy the viltrox for my canon lenses....unseful money spent! :(
@@Cloudseth why should it only work with meike lenses? There is nothing of any sort of firmware on that (it has no chip inside), so the lens and camera can't even differentiate between the two. There is surely something else thats wrong thefe
BE VERY CAREFUL. The screws will loosen over time and the post will come detached from the body when any pressure is applied. I had my body completely detach and hit the pavement twice (using 2 different Meike's... The one with control ring and the one with drop in ND filter). Loktight to the rescue. I also bought a different brand adapter in addition.
@@AndrewCCM never happened to me after 2 years of heavy use with any kind of lens, also a 400mm. So, bad luck I guess
@@J.K.productionsDE I'm glad to hear that. I've used it on my 400 F2.8 and really didn't have a problem (other than being loose) but it is always on a tripod or monopod (monopod 95% of the time). Both times it fell off were with my 100-400. I suppose it may be the lens itself that doesn't like the adapter. No problems with it and 2 other brands (Viltrox being one I borrowed). I had it on camera strap when it disconnected. Strap connected to lens foot. I now have a strap that connects to camera body as well as lens foot to prevent another disaster... LOL. - FYI - I responded from a different account. This is @andrewccm.
I have an Andoer EF to EF-M adapter that no one should ever get. The screws eventually get loose. Not only did this often disrupt the electronic connection between AF lenses and the camera, when they got loose enough, but there was a very real danger of the screws popping out during disassembly and dropping into the sensor. Switched to a Viltrox along with a speed booster and never had any issues since.
My Viltrox EF to EF-m also has the screw loosening issue!
Same happened to me....with Meike... body fell completely off of lens and hit pavement (twice!)
Good thing we could read the name. You have not once said the actual name lol.
So the adapter which you showing as it is good one was that viltrox or cyruss ? cause in link its showing many brands
Always test the adaptor carefully. With e-mount the contacts are often a problem and get pushed in too far. Once that happens you need to take apart the camera and back the spring pads. Fix this by taking off the metal ring of the adaptor and back it with some plastic sheets until it fits better. With a loose connection you can carefully bang the wings on the disassembled ring to make it tighter. Btw even some of my high quality lenses have matte rings, my guess is your high polish one might even be chrome which could get bad with age.
What?
I wish manufacturers would stop putting feet on adapters. If a lens is heavy it will have its own foot.
Right. And if a lens is heavy enough to need one then you really want to be using that instead of the adapter's. Let the lens bear the weight of the camera and adapter instead of the adapter bearing the weight of the camera and the lens.
None of the information presented is really conclusive of anything. It is not even clear how the 'bad' adapter will break your camera.
1. Obviously harder metals will always scratch softer metals. The mount on a Canon body is usually brass plated with nickel. You cannot automatically conclude that the matte metal mount on the adapter is hard enough to scratch the body mount. It most likely is made of a cheap, softer metal.
2. Just because a mount looks shiny and polished doesn't mean it is better. For all we know, the shine is just a thin layer of chrome plating on soft metal. Given the price point, the thin, brittle chrome is more likely to peel and chip off leaving small shards of chrome in the body.
Fair points, the adapter metal is soft for sure, it was leaving metal shavings in the camera, but you could also see the marks it left on the camera mount,
An adapter being loose is a good sign it is going to wear your mount out. I’m not going to risk my mount because you can’t see that.
@@markwiemels Those marks are probably deposits of adapter metal left in the machined grooves of the camera mount rather than actual scratches
I bought a Metabones Leica M to MFT adapter a month or so back. I had to send it back. It was impossible to mount the lens onto the adapter and the adapter onto the camera without considerable force. Yes, I did read the ' explanation ' about why these adapters are so tight, but sorry I couldn't buy it. Adapters are supposed to be snug, and not a friction fit. I wrote this to say that even these so called expensive adapters foul up.
The best performing adapter I had is the fringer eos-fx autofocus adapter, focuses even faster than my 5Ds on XT-3 with the same lenses, but it wobbles a little bit when I use 70-200mm f2.8 II. However, fringer’s Nikon g to fx adapter only works when there’s enough light, and it’s slow, even with some of Nikon’s fastest focusing lenses, nearly unusable for video. Viltrox’s build quality is undoubtedly the best as third party, but it works terribly on my XT-3, autofocus is almost unusable, and it’s nearly useless with some old EF lenses with manual focus, because it changes its focus point by itself even if turned af off on both the lens and the body, terrible experience. I assume it would work fine with lenses that autofocusing is broken. I also have to point out that some of the third party auto adapters may break your camera body’s chips, I heard it from a Panasonic dealer. However, some of the most expensive adapters produced by the same company as the camera body are the most reliable and rugged ones, and if it did harm to your camera body, you can go for the customer service. That’s all my personal experience and opinion, hope it can help.
Good info, thanks.
Have had a used metabones EF/m43 speedbooster for several years. Fits very snug lens and camera body with ease to apply and remove; even with one hand and the camera mounted. After years of use, works like I bought it yesterday.
Recently purchased a Viltrox speedbooster for a backup microCinema Camera EF/m43 and do not recommend this adapter. I’ve used it twice and it’s a disappointment. Although good reviews, it works great once adapted, but is rough to put on and remove. Definitely need two hands and feels like I’m forcing it on/off. I feel after a while it will damage the metal connectors on the camera body and all of my lenses
The metabones is SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive, but recommend that brand over all, for the longevity of my camera body and lenses. To me the few hundred more dollars in a quality adapter is far less expensive than camera body repairs and new lenses
Hi Tony. I recently bought a Metabones EF-M43 adapter (not speedbooster), to use with my Olympus OM-D EM-1 Mark III. The lens is Canon TS-e 17mm. Once attached, everything is black. Any ideas why it's not working? I have ordered a different adapter, but it's the one you don't recommend. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Add Neewer to the bad list. I bought the EF to RF for my R7, it lost contact so often as I zoomed in or out. I missed so many pictures of cut many videos short thanks to it. I used it for all of a day, and went official Canon...once I found one, out of stock everywhere.
Yes, I had that only too. I think they have stoped making it, as I was going to link it as a bad one as well, but could not find it in stock anywhere.
I have a Sony 70-200mm F4 G lens and that DOES NOT have a polished mount and neither do my other two Sony lenses so that is a spurious argument.
I use Urth and K&F Concept adaptors both of which have black anodised metal connectors, which at a glance could be mistaken for plastic.
I would trust an unpolished (machined) Sony mount. When we are talking about $30-50 adapters, the machining almost certainly won’t be g-master level, and you can feel the resistance when you put them them on the camera. Polished mounts are a much safer bet, and they don’t feel like they are grinding you camera mount, each time you use them.
efm adapter are quite cheap so its worth it to just buy the more expensive one, but start looking into adapting canon ef to m43 or fuji x then the price gap becomes massive anywhere from 50 to over 300
buy the cheap one n see if you like the combination and if youre ok with the added bulk and then decide if the expensive one is worth it
I have four adaptors for my R5: one plain, two with a control ring, one with a drop-in PL. And they are all genuine Canon, I don't cut corners on stuff that really matters.
I have two "Commlite" adapters. One sort-of went bad. I started getting lens errors on my camera, but when I switched it to another lens it worked perfectly. It's hard to recommend the Canon brand costing 400% more, but if you have the budget I would say it's a good idea. I now have a second Commlite brand that's working fine over the past year, but if it fails I'll most likely switch brands.
Hello, thank you very much for the help. I don't understand why they use plastic materials. Metal is much better. I feel like they've been making a lot of things out of plastic lately, I don't know if it's on purpose so that they don't last and we have to keep buying and buying. This week I bought a Ulanzi brand tripod and it's made of plastic. Only when you stretch it out, it's made of metal, but the base and everything else is made of plastic. I was very disappointed. I don't know if I should return the tripod or keep it, because I don't think the plastic will last me very long.
I want to say about unpolished mounts. Back in the days of film you would apply a cotton dubbed with a small amount of precision oil to lubricate the Mount. Same thing applies today on your camera lens and camera mount. So unpolished Mount is never an issue
Perhaps, but oil attracts dust and that's potentially quite problematic - especially with sensors.
I love your reviews. They are honest and very informative. Bravo.
So kind of you! Thank you.
For me it depends on how often I would use an adapter and also on the price difference compared to the first party adapter.
For example, I came from a Nikon D7100 before I upgraded to the Nikon Z system. If I had swapped most of my older F mount lenses with Z mount lenses I wouldn't buy an expensive adapter for a few lenses that I rarely use.
But I did keep all of my older lenses. So naturelly I wouldn't cheap out on the adapter to make sure that everything works perfectly 100% of the time.
Luckily I got the bundle with the FTZ adapter when I got my Z50 and I just kept it when I got the Z7 II.
Also, here in Germany if I were to buy a third party adapter, say from Viltrox, I would save a *whopping* 20 bucks compared to the Nikon FTZ II adapter... With a price difference like that I wouldn't even consider the third party adapter and always go for the Nikon adapter. I would only consider a third party adapter in that case if the first party adapter wasn't available. Which used to be the case with Nikon's FTZ adapter but now it's always in stock.
Oh, and this may surprise you, but Nikon doesn’t polish or chrome-plate their lens mounts. They're machined to a "satin" finish. Machining is a high tolerance operation: plating and polishing destroy that high tolerance.
Thanks for the insights! Seem to be running $99 two years after this video dropped.
Can you remove the tripod mount from the 7Artisans Adapter or is it permanently on the fixture?
What is the all plastic one you used to recommend? I'm only adapting the HOLGA HL-C Canon DSLR Holga lens you mentioned in another video so surely a cheap plastic one will be ok?
thanks for this vedio. Does this adapter work completely in R7?
I'm thankful that I'm returning to photography as a hobby. I've watched literally every single arrest video on the internet, so I bought a Canon r100 for 237 and I'm slapping all my EF lenses on it and I'm getting primed to buy new lenses and throw away tons of money on a new full frame camera thank you for all of your videos this is a great hobby, and, it must be said, it is very cost effective, once you've spent $10,000 or so
I’m using a Sigma M11 to use a canon lenses on Sony A7C and it works great except no continuous af in video mode. Not a problem though as I use a Sony 24-105 f4 G OSS on the main A7C.
This one works for video - geni.us/Du6AY
Thanks for the heads up, Mark!
Newer puts their name on random batches of stuff from several different factories, so there's no real consistency across the brand. You can order the same thing a few months later and get a product that superficially resembles the last one you bought but is made to entirely different tolerances.
I understand the polish/non-polish and it rubbing etc., but I miss where you state how either of those other mounts will actually break your camera.
Mostly the wearing down of the camera mount, I also got metal shavings from the adapter in the camera.
I was about to mention the metal shavings.
Excellent advice 👌
I use Novoflex adapters, they are great !
Reallly love your videos you do the comparisons that I’m looking for all the time. From these adapters to budget lenses. One thing I notice though is that you don’t say the names of the items much. I know you out them in the description for us to find but is there a reason for that? Just curious! Keep up the good work!
I kind of think it's Mark's way of maximising his click-through rate. It can be annoying from the UK as often amazon asks to switch to US website or I get a search result rather than a specific device. Eg. Here I can't even be sure which is the bad adapter!
I am considering switching from Nikon to Sony. I have collected over a dozen Nikon lenses over the last 50 years. So, is there a good Nikon AF and AF S lenses to a Sony camera mirrorless E mount?
I had similar issues when buying cheap extension tubes, they had light leaks, loose connections and poor build quality.
You get what you pay for?
I shoot real estate and was wondering if the Nikon 14-24 2.8 would be too heavy to mount on my A7iv?
Is there any good adapters that go from Nikon F mount lens to sony E mount camera? Your videos are great btw and I have bought many things from your videos!
I've had a Viltrox ef to efm adapter for a year now. I do use it a lot! Isn't that what they are for. I am now finding that i have the same problems with movement between the lens and the mount. And not just a small amount.
I am now going back to a Canon genuine ef to efm adapter (which i see you don't compare in this video, strangely).
So not a complete review in my opinion
I Use k&f and Urth adapters, never had a problem
BTW love your videos - especially on the cheap but very good lenses.
Thanks.
Can you recommend some good adapters for a Nikon D7200 that I can purchase, please.
I have a Viltrox RF to EF and it drained my R6 even when the camera was off so EVERY time I pulled the camera out it was dead. Drove me mad. I hated my camera. That device gave me the crappiest $4000 camera experience for 2 years until I discovered the R6 was not to blame.
The Viltrox (with control ring) cost $170. Replaced it with the $350 Canon and the camera instantly had new life and respect.
That Viltrox was very costly.
Just looking at my Neewer with CPL built in, to see if it’s polished or not. It’s not. It’s machined. However! My R50 is EXACTLY the same finish on the mating surface of the body - machined, NOT polished. So is your point still valid? At the lens end, the EF-S 55-250mm I have on at the moment is plastic against the machined alloy of the Neewer. There is also zero wobble on all the parts when assembled (for those who might be considering the one with the CPL built in).
His point was never valid....Salesman BS
Does this also applies on lens mount? How come still many lenses don't have polished metal?
What about adapting from older canon FD mount to Sony E? Any recommendations?
I think original canon adaptors and battery grips are overprice, but are great and durable.
I purchased a viltrox one to use with my 18-135mm lens, was good at first and now is loose, and disconnects occasionally and generally feels like its gonna break the camera.
Exactly! IT feels like something is wrong
What do you know about a Leica M mount to RF? Also sigma to RF?
I've amassed a nice collection of MC/MD Minolta lenses over the years. I WAS excited to come across this video HOWEVER my phone won't allow me to open any of the links.😢
For those mounts, I recommend the K&F Concept Adapters.
I keep seeing ads for the $199 Canon EF-RF adapter with the control ring. Is it worth the price?
Hi. DO you know of a good adapter for contax/yashica lens to sony Nex7. I have some really good zeis lens for an older contax 35mm I would like to try. thanks
Does the artisan works well for video???
I have a question, isn't adapters separating the lens from the sensor so it works like an extension tube and so you may use a lens as macro lens?
Hey. Please gimmi the name of the good adapter ! Thx
I have a canon M50 and my friend got a canon rebel t6, she also got good lenses for her camera. I want to use her lenses in my M50, which of the 2 good adapters should I buy? I am new to cameras. thanks
Hi, If I use Canon's EF 24-105 F4 lens and put it on a SONY full-frame camera with the one you say it good, will I need to turn on the APS-C mode? Will there be black corners? Thank you
I was looking for the EF-RF adapter that had the drop-in filters. 7artisans doesn't seem to make one. Meike's is all metal. And the variable ND filter by Canon is garbage, shifting to a distinct blue tint at -3, unusable by -4.
Excellent video. What about the ones with ND filters built in? Those are very important for video applications. Can we just go by company/brand name? Thanks.
I have the Meike one, and it seems very good.
What adapter do you recommend for ef -fx , besides fringer adapter 😅
What camera and lenses are these adapters are used for!?
What are the best Canon lenses to get for this adapter? I see you have the 50mm 1.8
The 7artisan ef to e mount adapter said it is a speedbooster. Does it have a lens in the adapter? If I want to mount a EF lens on a FF sony, will it change the focal link? Thx.
I have a adapter that you recommend one.
When I using with that adapter, although I'm not touching shutter button, but auto focus is tracking.
Is that normal?
Hi, could you please recommend a ring lens adapter for Sigma F2.8 100mm and Nikon 24 70mm F2.8E ED VR to mount a nikon f mount camera.
Thank you very much!
I wish you had put the model you were talking about. I have the viltrox EF to E mount adapter which is rubbish. Terrible vignetting, and yes, not polished, as well losing contact. I also find light is behaving differently within the adapter, as I am seeing blooming 'beside' light sources. Just letting people know on every EF lens I use, awful vignetting.
please how good is the k&f adapter
Thanks for the tip! looking to adapt cine EF to E mount, does it distinguish between EF non Canon lenses or are they all good?
What adapter would you recommend for a Pentax k1000 35mm lens to a Fujifilm xt4?
Does everything work with auto focus etc? Have Canon EF Lenses and want typ buy a sony zv-e10
Me watching this next to my $5 EOSM to Pentax M42 adapter and $10 Minolta MD/MC adapter.
I prefer to use adapters from the Canon company, because they take into account various aspects related to the lens and camera body😁
Do you know any adapters for amount to e mount that have the ability to do the electronic auto focus that isnt going to breal the bank?
Thanks!
Optical stabilisation will work?
Do you think the good adapter is good with the zve10 with the sigma 16mm f1.4?
You have to buy that lens in the correct mount, it can not be adapted.
Is there a RF to EOS-M adapter? Im looking for a cheap 10mm F2 or F2.8 but there is no M mount available.
No, based on the distance from the sensor, it looks like this may not be possible.
Just move to RF ugly body to get the convenience
Anyone knows if the Andoer Adapter is a good one? Im Thinking of buying it
ok amazon ITALY, 7artisans EF-SE hasn't any feedback,
I see that there are other adapters like K&F Concept EF/EF-S to E Mount that have 4,5 stars reviews and another of VILTROX EF-NEX IV that has 4 stars... anyway all have some issue about some compatibility and slow autofocus sometimes. They also are more expansive than 7artisans EF-SE
do you think that 7artisans EF-SE is the best from all ?
I own the sigma mc-11 adapter and have had success with a tokina 11-16mm f2.8 lens, but I just bought an older sigma 105mm F2.8 Macro lens and when I put it on the adapter two issues arrise, first if the AF is set to on it does not work but the af motor runs constantly, works fine if i turn off the af and run MF. The other issue is the Aperture does not seem to work it seems to be in f2.8, If I put the camera in manual mode it will not work, if I put it in A mode then I can set things and the camera will adjust the speed but it honestly does not look like it is changing the aperture in the lens. Online I read some review stating that these older sigma lenses had issues with newer canon cameras. I tried it on a friends 5D and it just gave an error message. Do you think there is a chance that the 7 Artisans adapter might let it work correctly as it really is a nice Macro lens
I actually just heard back from Sigma, and learned that the EX line of lenses will not work with the adaptors as they were only for film cameras, not compatible with DSLR Read in to that what you will. So my 105 Macro will never work correctly on my sony.....
Have you tried the Viltrox EF-E5 adapter? Seems like a good option too. Not too many videos or reviews of it. I'm about to change from my Canon to Sony and I need adapter for at least some time to use my Canon L lenses at Sony body. It would be too expensive to change them all at once to Sony equivalent lenses and if it works well I might not even need change all of them.
I´ve bought it for a6500, and autofocus only works when clicking the focus button, not really on its own.
But that´s probably some firmware problem, otherwise the build quality is amazing
Canon EF to Hasselblad V lens ideal brand?
Does anyone know that once you use that adapter for the cannon lens to Sony body if that then means you have to go into crop mode or can you use the cannon lens in full frame mode on like the a7iii for example
I have a Sony A6000 and I purchased a Sony 75-300mm f/4.5-5.6 Alpha A-Mount Telephoto Zoom Lens. What adapter will make this lens work for my camera or should I purchase a new lens.
I think there are A mount to E mount adapters, which is what you need, just google it or search Amazon.
Well this video makes me think twice before buying an adapter. Now i just got my viltrox ef nex iv for my a5100. The ef/efs lenses i put in adapter feel solid and good except the efs 18-55 is iii. There is a small gap between adapter and lens mount not a big deal at all since i tested in my room with bright light source. Then the adapter mount itself now kinda feel a little bit wiggle or i dont know how to say that, it just feel not absolute solid. I thought maybe a5100 not too good for and adapter maybe i should get a a6000 or higher, lol. I feel like the a6000 mount should be more solid than a5100 if using with an adapter.
*not too good for an adapter