Armies and Tactics: Ancient Greek Navies

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  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
  • Our Armies and Tactics series continues and in this edition we will talk about the Ancient Greek Navies, with a focus on Athens and Sparta during the Peloponnesian Wars. Which ships were used, what were the tactics, who financed the fleets and manned them - you will learn about all that and more in this video
    A very talented animator/illustrator Benjin Pratt created most of the animations used in this video, while the research was done by an aspiring historian Andreas Kokkinoftas.
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Комментарии • 729

  • @KingsandGenerals
    @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +419

    Hey, guys, give some love to the new team member - Benjin. He helped us with this video despite going through a rough patch, and we hope that you will enjoy his work.

    • @BenjinWS
      @BenjinWS 6 лет назад +38

      Glad I could help - doing that Trireme digital painting and those motion graphics was really fun work :)

    • @andreaskokkinoftas3770
      @andreaskokkinoftas3770 6 лет назад +13

      Outstanding work Benjin. Keep it up!

    • @MalayArcher
      @MalayArcher 6 лет назад +11

      Great to see my buddy Benjin is working with us !! So happy for him

    • @umaransari9765
      @umaransari9765 6 лет назад +7

      Benjin brilliant work man

    • @umaransari9765
      @umaransari9765 6 лет назад +3

      Aqua Fyre me too
      Books are not always good

  • @danebowden3101
    @danebowden3101 6 лет назад +199

    This..this is the stuff I like

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +16

      Our goal is to create more and more videos for you guys. :-)

    • @Mygg_Jeager
      @Mygg_Jeager 3 года назад +1

      @@KingsandGenerals I'm honestly stunned that you don't have any major competition from big budget TV studios.
      To think I could find exactly my entertainment niche, to this degree of quality, on RUclips and only RUclips just floors me lol.

  • @Incubator859
    @Incubator859 6 лет назад +193

    Do Persian naval and land tactics next. We'd like to see why they lost to the Greeks and do a side by side comparison.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +47

      Yes, it is on the list!

    • @Incubator859
      @Incubator859 6 лет назад +4

      Nice! Love your channel by the way bro. Hope you grow further.

    • @qus.9617
      @qus.9617 6 лет назад +2

      Good suggestion!

    • @timurthelamest5630
      @timurthelamest5630 5 лет назад +3

      Which period are you referring to?

    • @CliveBurr4
      @CliveBurr4 5 лет назад +8

      2 main reasons! 1. They were a multiethnic army invading Greece, so they were not so eager to put their life on the line, 2. Greek infantry was much heavier equipped with bronze armor and the Persians wore no armor at all (as far as I can recall from paintings and stuff).

  • @AtticusAmericanus
    @AtticusAmericanus 6 лет назад +165

    3:42 Someone is deciding either to heroically swim towards an oncoming ram, or he's deserting and making a break for it.

    • @TheWatcher1009
      @TheWatcher1009 6 лет назад +13

      Hadrian Augustus ah yes total war logic

    • @eniotanaka2229
      @eniotanaka2229 5 лет назад +8

      He was just hot

    • @acmaiden5236
      @acmaiden5236 5 лет назад

      @@matthiuskoenig3378 yep, we just didn't have time to see it

    • @Kimonodiloto
      @Kimonodiloto 5 лет назад +6

      Was lured by an enemy mermaid

    • @BoopSnoot
      @BoopSnoot 4 года назад +1

      The Greeks had "experienced semen".

  • @777LGF
    @777LGF 6 лет назад +333

    RAMMING SPEED!!!

  • @gianlucaborg195
    @gianlucaborg195 6 лет назад +174

    Hi guys, hi Benjin!, this series is becoming my favorite alongside the other of the battles. This series is very well made, 100/10 perfection as usual. I expect nothing less than that tbh from you. I like the depictions of the Trireim, as well as the mention of the Bririem, Thucydidies, Themisticlies and the Pentecounter (takes me back to Age of Empires 1).
    Boy, you outdid your selves. I love how you mentioned that the oarsmen were not slaves and armed (I always thought they were unarmed and that all 3 were equally respected, never knew that, thanks Xenophones!!!) I also appreciated that you mentioned the names of, the details and the sources of everything you mentioned!!!!!!
    Loved the mention of the Battle of Salamis as well as the introduction of naval artillery and improving tactics, it underlines that they had very intricate tactics at the time!
    I really loved the graphics shown. Gotta start a Rome 2 campaign as the Greeks now, hahaha. - Truly a jaw dropping video. Keep it up!

  • @VladTevez
    @VladTevez 6 лет назад +38

    Well done again, excellent work... P.S. Indeed, Athens did not have a permanent taxation system. The wealthy citizens were expected to give more than the others, and every wealthy citizen did not saw it as burden, but as honour...

    • @aantony2001
      @aantony2001 6 лет назад +2

      Weren't the citizens tax exempt, except for the choregiai (χορηγίαι)?

    • @VladTevez
      @VladTevez 6 лет назад +2

      aantony2001 yeap

    • @buster117
      @buster117 6 лет назад +2

      V. Athanasiou I think I saw you on the great war channel too

    • @VladTevez
      @VladTevez 6 лет назад +3

      buster117 You did!

    • @VideoMask93
      @VideoMask93 11 месяцев назад +1

      If only we had that attitude today...

  • @mariosathens1
    @mariosathens1 6 лет назад +48

    "Great Nation of the Sea / ΜΕΓΑ ΤΟ ΤΗΣ ΘΑΛΑΣΣΗΣ ΚΡΑΤΟΣ" by Pericles the Athenian
    The ships saved the Greeks numerous times in the Past in different Eras, from the classical ancient Greek Era, to Byzantine Era and to the Greek war of independence in 1821. In Balkans wars, in WW1 and WW2 etc

    • @giannisv.4472
      @giannisv.4472 5 лет назад +16

      @@matthiuskoenig3378 nope mate they were greek romans

    • @Jorn41
      @Jorn41 4 года назад

      You are an utter ignorant: Greece was occupied by the Ottomans well up to WW1 and conquered by the Germans in WW2 there has never been a greek fleet worth mentioning! And the Byzantine era used roman ships!

    • @petertomas3665
      @petertomas3665 4 года назад

      @Fotis Fokas Μπραβο σας κυριε Φωκα για τις γνωσεις σας. Οφειλω να πω πως απολαυσα την απαντηση σας στον "απο πανω" ανιστορητο κυριο με το περισσιο τουπε. Αιντε, χορτασε και η ψειρα και βγηκε στο γυακα. Για να μην πω τιποτε αλλο.

  • @clone3249
    @clone3249 6 лет назад +6

    This channel is indescribably good; ITS JUST BLOODY FANTASTIC

  • @MrkostasPT18
    @MrkostasPT18 6 лет назад +14

    Nice work and very extensive research on Greek history. We thank you!!!

  • @acmaiden5236
    @acmaiden5236 5 лет назад +3

    Anyone else kinda wanna play TWR2 again because of this channel? Seriously great video, you guys cover things that other channel don't seem to care. Also, that map at 9:14 struck my curiosity, now I wanna know the histories about Emporion, Massalia and those who were in the south of italy before the romans!

  • @jakeperalta6174
    @jakeperalta6174 6 лет назад +5

    Since i began my history studies at college i have been practically addicted to the channel. Really love your work, great job!

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +1

      Glad to hear that! What are you studying?

    • @jakeperalta6174
      @jakeperalta6174 6 лет назад +1

      Kings and Generals last term I did Ancient Greece and Rome and currently I’m busy with the period of the conquistadors and the aftermath of the Middle Ages.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +1

      Great! By the way, we are always happy to collaborate with the aspiring historians. If you are interested, send us an e-mail: info@kingsandgenerals.net

  • @Daimon-X
    @Daimon-X 6 лет назад +84

    Ancient Greek Marines Corp FTW!

    • @ericconnor8251
      @ericconnor8251 6 лет назад +2

      Someone better quickly figure out the Greek variant of the Latin "semper fidelis". Lol. Greek fans of the channel, speak up! Or forever hold your pax/pacem.

    • @real_orestis_georgiou
      @real_orestis_georgiou 6 лет назад +22

      Eric Connor
      A translation would be "πάντα πιστός"(always loyal). But we don't use it.
      What is used by the Greek marines is "ΘΑΡΣΕΙΝ ΧΡΗ". It means "have courage" or "you have to have courage". It's part of what godess Athena said, through Ulesses, to the Acheans that wanted to leave from Troy and go home. After giving them courage and building the Trojan Horse, they conquered Troy.

    • @Daimon-X
      @Daimon-X 6 лет назад +1

      Drokk yeah!

    • @billkillernic
      @billkillernic 6 лет назад +5

      ΗΡΩΗΚΩΣ ΖΕΙΝ ΚΑΙ ΤΕΘΝΑΝΑΙ (eeROHeeKOSS zeen //Z like in Zelda// kae taethnaahnae - live heroic die heroic) Ancient Greeks had rocking mottoes before having rocking mottoes was cool :P Free men do not need to dogmatize their loyalty in order to ensure it to a superior ruler/form of government etc, its entrusted that they are loyal to each other in order for them to remain free since a chain is as strong as its weakest link so better those links try to be heroic than anything else :P.

  • @diogog.fernandes6650
    @diogog.fernandes6650 6 лет назад +12

    Love these videos on the ancient greek forces! Keep 'em coming!

  • @eddierudolph7694
    @eddierudolph7694 6 лет назад +35

    How did the marines and hoplites differ since they are listed separately?

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +31

      Somewhat lighter equipment.

    • @mariussielcken
      @mariussielcken 3 года назад +7

      The hoplites had throwing spears and the marines had melee weapons and heavier armor. Distance vs. Close quarters combat. The marines were the first line of entry, the hoplite second.

  • @JeremyStittsandtheJourney
    @JeremyStittsandtheJourney 6 лет назад +9

    Super informative. I'm anticipating seeing the naval arms race of the Hellenistic period. Those ships were stupid big, like ancient dreadnoughts.

  • @qus.9617
    @qus.9617 6 лет назад +5

    I love this video! Good work! My favourite so far.
    btw I am ashamed to say I had forgotten about the one flaw of the ship, until you brought it back at the end of the video! Nice, now that's what I call engaging and educational.

  • @umaransari9765
    @umaransari9765 6 лет назад +125

    Eventually it was the navy which was cause of the success of Mighty British, Spanish and Portuguese empire

    • @juliusgreen9179
      @juliusgreen9179 6 лет назад +12

      Mighty Portuguese lol

    • @konradvonschnitzeldorf6506
      @konradvonschnitzeldorf6506 6 лет назад +14

      And the USA in the last 70 years

    • @alis1079
      @alis1079 6 лет назад +15

      The Dutch also

    • @Ooshgaar
      @Ooshgaar 6 лет назад +37

      The Portuguese are probably 1 of the greatest sailing nations that have ever been. Their skills are legendary, and their marks upon history cannot be doubted. I'm am English, but we're are taught that we owe a great deal to the Portuguese navy. Our longest, and most respected allies.

    • @konradvonschnitzeldorf6506
      @konradvonschnitzeldorf6506 6 лет назад +1

      Ooshgaar beat sailors of all time

  • @redvelvet3318
    @redvelvet3318 6 лет назад +40

    i am greek. thank you for this video, you inform us and also make us a little proud i must admit

  • @abdullahsalloum9858
    @abdullahsalloum9858 6 лет назад +3

    This one of most anticipated series to me, keep the amazing work,

  • @DanielLee_2304
    @DanielLee_2304 6 лет назад +5

    I'm loving this series, can't really wait for more!

  • @user-rq6uq1ni1q
    @user-rq6uq1ni1q 6 лет назад +3

    Your videos are awesome!And Total War series really glorifies details of these videos!!

  • @suren2313
    @suren2313 6 лет назад +36

    Finally Greetings from Armenia

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад

      Hello there.

    • @lastkingofnogayland6050
      @lastkingofnogayland6050 6 лет назад

      STORM LORD Only with Byzantine empire.Byzantine empire was a Greek and some of its rulers had Armenian background.
      I don’t know if Armenians learning about that in their schools but first country in the world who recognised Armenia as an independent country was Turkey after collapse of the Soviet Union.

    • @lastkingofnogayland6050
      @lastkingofnogayland6050 6 лет назад +1

      STORM LORD Lol no my friend Byzantine empire have nothing with Turkey, we consider Ottoman Empire as old Turkey.

  • @Kohnbread19
    @Kohnbread19 2 года назад +4

    The crews would be 200 men, with 170 rowers and 30 others. 16 marines, and 13 hyperesiai along with the trierarch. I think you double-counted some of these members since 4 marines would be used as archers, and two of them would be stationed alongside the trierarch as a bodyguard.

  • @VTC05
    @VTC05 6 лет назад +4

    You are the best RUclipsr who makes this kind of videos, I love them!!

  • @malster1239
    @malster1239 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the portuguese subtitles,you guys make a very good job,this is the best channel about battles and military things

  • @gumtreessaltwater6273
    @gumtreessaltwater6273 5 лет назад +17

    Hail Poseidon ready you're self for glory

    • @KennyyMcd2283
      @KennyyMcd2283 4 года назад

      I'm proud to see this comment. Mad respect Gum

  • @DarkBuddhist
    @DarkBuddhist 6 лет назад +14

    This is amazing!

  • @bryanhinojosa3160
    @bryanhinojosa3160 6 лет назад +3

    Awesome video. More discussion of naval warfare please!!! Any era will do.

  • @reieben886
    @reieben886 6 лет назад +26

    FOR HELAS!!

    • @shiroyasha4995
      @shiroyasha4995 5 лет назад +1

      @@sonam7202 I thought your country is named debt
      #LetsFight

  • @motorola1543
    @motorola1543 6 лет назад +49

    Great Video!

  • @arnoldbuskftw
    @arnoldbuskftw 6 лет назад +3

    amazing camerawork and graphics on this one

  • @georgezachos7322
    @georgezachos7322 6 лет назад +7

    Excellent work. Well researched.

  • @Cccskala
    @Cccskala 6 лет назад +12

    Keep up the great work!!!! Make more videos about byzantine battles if you can.

  • @emperordemetrius3832
    @emperordemetrius3832 6 лет назад +4

    Very nice video!hope you do a Peloponnesian war one

  • @ozman8247
    @ozman8247 6 лет назад +4

    can u please do all the talking, this is the only video i look forward to after a long day. and thanks such an awesome and amazing video, welcome benji and thanks to the rest.

  • @geoddfc7937
    @geoddfc7937 6 лет назад +5

    PLEASE MAKE A VIDEOSABOUT HOW THEY MADE THEIR SHIPS

  • @gianlucaborg195
    @gianlucaborg195 6 лет назад +2

    I can't wait for the next video!

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 4 года назад +1

    I loved how informative this video was. It was great to watch. My compliments to those who made this video a reality.

  • @JoyMadrugada
    @JoyMadrugada 5 лет назад

    Walking near Acropolis and read the Evacuation order of city and realise that is thousands years ago made me very touched .

  •  5 лет назад +3

    Congrats, good video. Long long time ago I had a book called Ancient Mariners by Lionel Casson. I highly recommend it for the people who want to read on this subject. This book goes hand to hand so nicely with Beneath the Seven Seas by George Bass... These were truly great reads...

  • @fredblonder7850
    @fredblonder7850 Год назад +1

    At 3:00, your animation shows the rowers facing FORWARDS. In any rowed vessel, the rowers face the stern.

  • @ericconnor8251
    @ericconnor8251 6 лет назад +4

    Small quibble: the ancient Greek historian Thucydides, while having a "c" pronounced as an "s" in the modern Anglophone rendering of his name, would have had his name pronounced as something closer to "thou-kid-ae-dees" in his own day. Anyways, great video! Kudos to your graphic artists, they're quite professional, and the historical information presented is accurate enough. The music is also enjoyable. All around a great video! It's about time we got a decent video about ancient Greek navies on RUclips.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +2

      Thank you very much! We are planning to release more videos in this vein, so, naturally, they will be better. :-)

  • @elscruffomcscruffy8371
    @elscruffomcscruffy8371 4 года назад +1

    These guys were all guts and balls back then. Death was almost always present. Shot at, stabbed, drowning...
    What a hectic life

  • @Scarlioni
    @Scarlioni 6 лет назад +1

    Naval operations in the Med were influenced by Teredo. It's the reason the ships both stayed close to shore and needed to be light enough to portage up the beach. The worms can start to damage the hull in as little as 12 hours. Until the 18th century the only way to prevent this damage was to remove the vessel from the water and let it completely dry.

  • @paulcateiii
    @paulcateiii 6 лет назад +1

    a great way to start the morning - with Kings and Generals 💥

  • @sonercakir7542
    @sonercakir7542 6 лет назад +5

    Great video!! I wonder why they didn't use more archer/ranged weapons on their ships

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +3

      The main purpose was to ram the enemy ship, board it and kill everybody on it :)

  • @thefacelessnarrator
    @thefacelessnarrator 6 лет назад +2

    Fantastic video again, friends.
    I have a bit of a personal question I was hoping you'd be able to answer for me, as someone who has watched your channel since it was in it's infancy to now hitting almost 200k subs (congrats btw), and as someone who has recently also decided to create their own content; what advice would you give to a small channel in regards to getting their own channel noticed?
    I mean, I know consistently fantastic content is obviously why you guys are where you are today, but back in the 'N&P/10 facts' era of the channel especially, what did you do/or where did you promote yourselves to get those first 1'000 subs/initial views? As I am discovering simply putting a video online is not enough to keep people engaged or recruit fans. I remember when you had the original narrator, and hadn't quite evolved into the style you are today, so I feel you guys are a great team to ask about this question as you guys have had a fantastic evolution over the last 18 months - got any tips or tricks you'd be happy to share?
    All the best, and as always, looking forward to whatever is next!

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +1

      Thank you very much for your kind words! We started as a let's play channel and got to 1-2k through playing strategy games. The next step we made a few game theory videos and that pushed us to 5k. Sometimes it is about luck and perseverance.

    • @thefacelessnarrator
      @thefacelessnarrator 6 лет назад

      Not a problem, thanks for the content.
      Perseverance it is then, thanks for the advice!

  • @galgamekthegreatlord4823
    @galgamekthegreatlord4823 2 года назад

    This is by far the best history channel out there.

  • @ebs7411
    @ebs7411 6 лет назад +1

    200 men lifting 50 metric ton? Perhaps they transported the ship by pushing it on rolling logs. I watch every video of Kings and Generals, great stuff!

    • @andreaskokkinoftas3770
      @andreaskokkinoftas3770 6 лет назад +1

      E BS They definetly did not lift it up on their shoulders! Transporting ships was done with the use of ropes, levers and lots of logs for rolling :)

  • @NewDawnReaper
    @NewDawnReaper 6 лет назад +3

    Hey there, great video off course, like to point out some geohistoric inconsistencies.thessalonica wasn’t a city back then it was founded at Hellenistic times.thermopoly wasn’t a city but a small region.patras wasn’t a city either but Rio nearby at the closest spot to the other side of Corinthian gulf.

  • @Bloodyiron77
    @Bloodyiron77 6 лет назад +2

    Love your videos

  • @paladinbob1236
    @paladinbob1236 6 лет назад +1

    a good informative video as always [bows in homage] :P ...with perhaps only two things I would add, ..one , that it is hypothesised that the larger fleets was the reason , Athens turned to democracy, as having a larger fleet [as there main arm of warfare] required a greater number of ordinary citizens for duty, as opposed to a typical greek city state , whose main strength was in its army , and hoplite class[being a wealther class of citizen , but smaller in number,who could afford armour and so on..], and two , that most of the navy travel was along the coast , [not into deep water] , as navigation was differicult away from land , and it was easier to stop before dark , and rest your sailors/oarsman on the coast, as opposed to being isolated out on the water :D...

  • @mr.phenomenon6403
    @mr.phenomenon6403 6 лет назад +1

    You earned a new subscriber :) you're awesome..I interested in history and that channel gives me everything I want.. :) greetings,much love and support from Turkey

  • @Tar-Numendil
    @Tar-Numendil 4 года назад

    Themistocles is one of my favorite historical figures.

    • @Tar-Numendil
      @Tar-Numendil 4 года назад

      @DeSPoTNemanjaS That's a good question. I honestly don't know. A few other favorites are Marcus Aurelius and Diocletian.

  • @repomandan07
    @repomandan07 6 лет назад +1

    Found a new channel to binge.

  • @eurosensazion
    @eurosensazion 6 лет назад +6

    Awesome vid. Too bad Greek-City states and kingdoms after Persian Wars with the height of Athens didn't realize the power of the Republic which Plato & Socrates theorized, only for Rome to see it's power. Like that the ancient Greeks knew their disadvantages and made them into advantages knowing the importance of naval power and controlling the seas.

  • @bradycole3563
    @bradycole3563 3 года назад

    That was one of the best videos I have ever seen!
    Thank you so much.

  • @UpcycleElectronics
    @UpcycleElectronics 6 лет назад +3

    What was the life cycle of these boats? Were they more purpose built for a season or were these used and maintained for years/decades? Have any examples survived somehow like some of the later Roman vessels did?

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +4

      I think that there are some museums in Greece and Italy with smaller boats. If cared, the wood could have survived for decades/centuries.

    • @ΑΡΗΣΚΟΡΝΑΡΑΚΗΣ
      @ΑΡΗΣΚΟΡΝΑΡΑΚΗΣ 6 лет назад +4

      Kings and Generals the greek navy has one trireme called Olympias

  • @ancient-rhinowang6641
    @ancient-rhinowang6641 6 лет назад +1

    the new intro is awesome!!!

  • @Dale_The_Space_Wizard
    @Dale_The_Space_Wizard 6 лет назад +1

    Very interesting.

  • @kerbjesus
    @kerbjesus 6 лет назад +5

    damn, this was good

  • @Hosenloser
    @Hosenloser 6 лет назад +8

    oh boy, the oarsmen at 2:50 are doing it the wrong way..

  • @HellenicPride22
    @HellenicPride22 5 лет назад +1

    Are you planning to cover the campaing of Caesar in Gaul in the future ? Thanks in advance and keep up the great work..

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  5 лет назад +2

      Thanks! Yes, it will happen!

    • @HellenicPride22
      @HellenicPride22 5 лет назад +1

      @@KingsandGenerals Awesome cant wait and thanks for the answer..

  • @jamesmurphy9105
    @jamesmurphy9105 6 лет назад +3

    Great video

  • @theometallica
    @theometallica 6 лет назад +34

    ΕΛΛΑΣ!!!

    • @ericconnor8251
      @ericconnor8251 6 лет назад

      You'll have a hell of a time in Hellas. Zeus guarantees it. What happens in Athens stays in Athens.

  • @pieperson8625
    @pieperson8625 6 лет назад +2

    Another great video!

  • @jamestang1227
    @jamestang1227 6 лет назад +14

    Do the myths about galley slaves and them being chained come from the Romans or Medieval galley warfare? I very sure they were slaves in Medieval times but not too sure about the Romans.

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh 6 лет назад +14

      James Tang it was more of a Roman thing- the Greek oarsmen were paid quite nicely and weren't tied to their ship (emotionally or literally).

    • @VladTevez
      @VladTevez 6 лет назад +15

      Romans used slaves in galley, in Greece the place of an oarman was considered duty to the city, so free citizens were chosen, because they were more motivated

    • @offchance789
      @offchance789 6 лет назад +7

      Rome also had the cultural acceptance of slavery early in its Republican history. By the time of the wars with Carthage, oarsmen were mostly slaves with the ship to ship boarding done by career soldiers. Chaining oarsmen, however, was only left for the least trusthworthy crewmen e.g. captured prisoners of war, branded criminals, runaways, and deserter.

    • @dynamicworlds1
      @dynamicworlds1 6 лет назад +2

      offchance I'd more attribute it to the design and operation of the ship itself. When most of your crew is oars men and you want them armed for defending the ship and able to go ashore to help gather food, using slaves starts looking somewhere between very impractical and near suicidal.
      If you can carry supplies and don't intend to get into boarding range, using slaves starts getting more practical.
      Many city states used slaves for other things besides this, so we should start with looking to practical answers before cultural ones.
      Also, pre-iron age, chains thick enough to bind a bench of sailors are expensive, and you'd need a lot of them.

    • @giorgiannicartamancini3917
      @giorgiannicartamancini3917 6 лет назад

      I doubt they were slaves in the middle ages as slavery in Europe wasn't present at that time

  • @zeusammon1874
    @zeusammon1874 6 лет назад

    There were 14 armed men (marines) total in a greek trireme. 10 were hoplites + 4 archers. I feel that was a bit misleading as if there were 24 in total.
    Also about crew composition: slaves probably constituted an equal proportion of the crew as citizens and metics. And few instances of citizenship-grants to slaves exist compared to the total number of launched fleets (I am assuming Athens is the model of this presentation given the mention of citizenship-grants).
    These were 2 things which I thought needed some dissambiguation. Regardless of that, thank you for these videos.

  • @Darthhersir
    @Darthhersir 6 лет назад +3

    Great content like always! I don't know if it's been asked already, but will any Nader Shah videos be done in the future?

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад

      Hey, thanks! Yes, probably as a tie-in to the Ottoman series, as a mini-series on his campaigns.

    • @Darthhersir
      @Darthhersir 6 лет назад +1

      Excellent! Always love your videos, very well done and informative. Helps with my personal studies into battle tactics.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад

      Thank you, good sir! :-)

  • @hellenicradicalns6638
    @hellenicradicalns6638 6 лет назад +16

    Hellenic Army. 4.000 years of history and succes against barbarians!

  • @Biestdrinker
    @Biestdrinker 6 лет назад

    This is becoming my favourite youtube channel!

  • @vasslander9602
    @vasslander9602 6 лет назад +1

    I just can't decide who is more badass, classic hoplites or winged hussars... Awesome video!

  • @ammarhabib8379
    @ammarhabib8379 6 лет назад +1

    Best Historian
    And please make a series on Attila's Wars also.

  • @jimcraig9882
    @jimcraig9882 6 лет назад +3

    Thank you again kind sirs!

  • @banjiu10
    @banjiu10 6 лет назад +1

    I think the Sicilian expedition deserves its own video.

  • @adrianbrunner8
    @adrianbrunner8 6 лет назад +1

    I really like this kind of videos (not because greek history is so exciting) and the intro is epic :-D

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад

      Thank you! :-) We are planning to cover as many armies as possible. :-)

    • @adrianbrunner8
      @adrianbrunner8 6 лет назад +1

      Kings and Generals niiiiiiiiiiice :-)

  • @nhtsm
    @nhtsm 6 лет назад

    I love this series

  • @theworldahistoryin100video7
    @theworldahistoryin100video7 6 лет назад

    Great and very informative video. Big thump up to Benjin

  • @user-ju9zn2ch6o
    @user-ju9zn2ch6o 3 года назад

    One correction:
    Hoplitai
    Toxotai
    Zigitai
    Etc,
    Is pronounced Οπλίται, O-pli-tai(e).
    Not O-pli-ta-i, the a and i are one word, like we say "hair", "pair".

  • @zamzamazawarma928
    @zamzamazawarma928 6 лет назад

    From what I've read, Themistocles wasn't pro-evacuation, but this is how he justified building the ships for the coming war. The pro-war wanted to fight on land like at Marathon (not understanding that it was nothing more than a skirmish for the Persians), while the anti-war wanted to flee.

  • @TheHistoryofSpainPodcast
    @TheHistoryofSpainPodcast 6 лет назад +1

    Damn, I find pretty cool the ships with eyes painted on them.

  • @skoudo7234
    @skoudo7234 5 лет назад +1

    amazing vid dude

  • @bilalamr3340
    @bilalamr3340 6 лет назад +2

    very good work boys

  • @lucabrotto5092
    @lucabrotto5092 6 лет назад

    Great work!

  • @markbassett7995
    @markbassett7995 6 лет назад +2

    Good job keep it up

  • @wallace8637
    @wallace8637 6 лет назад +1

    All these ancient themed videos makes me wanna play Divide and Impera.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад

      Thank you for watching :) I prefer you watch our other videos than playing a game :D

  • @augustwatring888
    @augustwatring888 6 лет назад +1

    Now this is the best way to start the day.

    • @umaransari9765
      @umaransari9765 6 лет назад

      August Watring in India it 6:30 pm whenever they upload

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад

      Patrons have early access :)

    • @augustwatring888
      @augustwatring888 6 лет назад

      Kings and Generals that they do but alas I have no money to give. Maybe once I have a steady job and not dumping money into getting my car running I'll throw some dosh your way. I love the content you guys put out, I'm just poor as hell. 😂

  • @georgethanos7700
    @georgethanos7700 6 лет назад +4

    EXCELLENT! (ARISTON IN GREEK)

  • @mehmanmammadov6872
    @mehmanmammadov6872 6 лет назад +3

    Congratulation 200000 subs

  • @mombaassa
    @mombaassa 5 лет назад

    Nice video. In listing the different crew members though, you missed out one - the flute player.

  • @spookyshadowhawk6776
    @spookyshadowhawk6776 6 лет назад

    Question: At what time did Greek Fire become Important in Greek Sea Warfare? Bronze handpumps to deliver this up to 10 Meters away have been found and are in Museums, the old estimate was after Athens war with Persia and before Alexander. Accounts of the time say Greek Fire would burst into Flame on contact with water or a Human body which is mostly water, while how it was made is lost, probably a mixture of Nappa and certain chemicals, some of which react with water by igniting into Flames. Thanks!

  • @tomboerstra2533
    @tomboerstra2533 6 лет назад

    Like always, stellar content!

  • @70rn52
    @70rn52 6 лет назад +2

    I've probably stuffed the numbers but how could a crew of 200 move a 50 tonne vessel? It'd be something like 250 kgs per man. They must used rollers or something, but even that seems an impractical feat for any distance worth the trouble.

    • @andreaskokkinoftas3770
      @andreaskokkinoftas3770 6 лет назад +1

      70rn There were actually some roads that the crew used to transport the ship on top of a platform with the use of ropes and levers

    • @70rn52
      @70rn52 6 лет назад

      Any idea what it was called/ where I could find out more?

    • @andreaskokkinoftas3770
      @andreaskokkinoftas3770 6 лет назад +2

      Yes, one of those 'roads' that we know of is Diolkos.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diolkos
      ruclips.net/video/MMx-pjBEPC4/видео.html

    • @70rn52
      @70rn52 6 лет назад +2

      Thank you very much, that's pretty helpful.

    • @andreaskokkinoftas3770
      @andreaskokkinoftas3770 6 лет назад +1

      My pleasure!

  • @sixzrazky1129
    @sixzrazky1129 6 лет назад +2

    I love it. Thank you bro

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад

      Thank you for watching :)

    • @sixzrazky1129
      @sixzrazky1129 6 лет назад

      Kings and Generals do you happen to have any relating to the Egyptians that Im missing?

  • @thinkscotty
    @thinkscotty 2 года назад

    Great video! In the rowing animation the rowers are facing the wrong way and pushing instead of pulling their oars, which wouldn’t work.

  • @imperatorvictix.444
    @imperatorvictix.444 5 лет назад +1

    Also, props to the Romans for staging these naval battles within Colosseum. Why cant modern sports arenas do that, wouldnt be hard to get some life imprisioned felons to sign off on blood sports for freedom.

  • @georgekorros5659
    @georgekorros5659 6 лет назад

    Great video as always but as a Greek I would like to point some pronunciation mistakes not in a judgmental way but only to help to enhance the quality of future videos .in Greek the combination of ai is pronounced e so it is pronounced toxote instead of texotai for example it's epibate instead of epibatai .Except from that minor flow everything was beautiful as always!

  • @WoroBoro
    @WoroBoro 4 года назад +1

    What was the major dis advantage about the triremes? Answer ASAP.

  • @TyrannosaurusRex5027
    @TyrannosaurusRex5027 6 лет назад +2

    Fun fact:Greek fire was byzantine. When you see Greek fire run. Also nice video :D