Armies and Tactics: Philip II and Macedonian Phalanx

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  • Опубликовано: 4 июл 2018
  • Previously we have covered the evolution of the Greek Armies prior to the rise of Macedon (goo.gl/UpuKku), but the military of Hellenistic World became really dominant with the reforms of Philip II. Surrounded by the enemies, he used what he learned from Epaminondas, Pelopidas, and Iphicrates, to reform his armies and created one of the most dominant units of the antiquity - the Macedonian phalanx. In this video, we will discuss how the pezhetairoi were trained, what were their panoply and the combat role and much more.
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    Anson, E. M., ‘The Hypaspists: Macedonia’s Professional Citizen-Soldiers’ (1985).
    Historia, Vol. 34 (2), 246-248.
    Bosworth, A. B, (1988), Conquest and Empire: the reign of Alexander the Great, Cambridge.
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    Hammond, N. G. L., (1994), Philip of Macedon, London.
    Heckel, W. ‘The Three Thousand: Alexander’s Infantry Guard’ (2013).
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    History, Political Science, Philosophy and Religion Faculty Publications. 11.
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Комментарии • 1,2 тыс.

  • @raphaelkhan1668
    @raphaelkhan1668 4 года назад +703

    "How do I beat these men with long pointy sticks?"
    "LONGER POINTIER STICKS!"

    • @oddish2253
      @oddish2253 4 года назад +13

      no, big shield and short pointy stick.

    • @yoruichixx6951
      @yoruichixx6951 4 года назад +34

      @@oddish2253 no, small shield big pointy stick

    • @boiboiboi1419
      @boiboiboi1419 4 года назад +9

      How do i beat these tank with long range guns? A LONGER RANGE GUNS - british RAF

    • @lazarjovanovic4388
      @lazarjovanovic4388 4 года назад

      @@shafqatishan437 are u a muslim?

    • @lazarjovanovic4388
      @lazarjovanovic4388 3 года назад

      @@shafqatishan437 because of your name

  • @rafaelsocarras1128
    @rafaelsocarras1128 6 лет назад +937

    You don't hear nearly as much about Phillip as you do Alexander, yet he laid the groundwork for everything Alexander would later accomplish. Great video!

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +56

      Thank you very much! :-)

    • @thatguy6919
      @thatguy6919 6 лет назад +22

      Thats because he took 20 years to conquer his kingdom, while Alexander reconquered it in one to two years then actually delivered on his campaign east, although in all likely hood Alexander killed Phillip before he could accomplish this

    • @rafaelsocarras1128
      @rafaelsocarras1128 6 лет назад +82

      Took him two years because he had substantially less to reconquer than Phillip, who united all of Greece beforehand :). The ancient sources are also pretty clear about the motivations behind the assassination, and I haven't seen one that points to Alexander as the culprit.

    • @worsethanjoerogan8061
      @worsethanjoerogan8061 6 лет назад +40

      Rafael Socarras I was going to say one reason Alexander subdued Greece so quickly is he inherited a strong, experienced army and weakened enemies thanks to Phillip. Greek cities were subdued after Chaeronea and the Thracian and Illyrian tribes had no answer to the reformed military.

    • @user-ch7wn5fk8d
      @user-ch7wn5fk8d 5 лет назад +58

      But remember Phillip started from scratch,Alexander was borned into the Great Kingdom that Phillip had created.

  • @OmanshuThapliyal
    @OmanshuThapliyal 6 лет назад +595

    List of Men with the pointiest sticks:
    1. Philip of Macedon.

  • @vinodvarghese78
    @vinodvarghese78 6 лет назад +616

    Alexander was fortunate to have a father like Philip because he inherited a well equipped, well trained and ready for action army.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +103

      Indeed! That gave him victory and allowed to start his conquests right away.

    • @Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
      @Bullet-Tooth-Tony- 6 лет назад +26

      An army that was combat experienced too

    • @hardcoredoom5892
      @hardcoredoom5892 4 года назад +13

      Phillip didn’t even want Alexander to succeed him as king. Alexander’s mom had to have Phillip assassinated just so Alexander could become king (purportedly). He was more fortunate to have his mother than his father. If you thought Phillip was tough, boy, you have no idea. Phillip was afraid of Alexander’s mom.

    • @dzakysastra
      @dzakysastra 4 года назад +15

      @@hardcoredoom5892 nah, Olympias was exiled to Athens and then she knew if she does nothing she'll be killed. It was the way of medieval, kill or be killed.

    • @SMiki55
      @SMiki55 4 года назад +14

      @@hardcoredoom5892 Alexander would be nothing without Philip's army, regardless of what his mother had done.

  • @CogitoEdu
    @CogitoEdu 6 лет назад +634

    I am in awe at the size of that Sarissa. Absolute unit!!

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +103

      Still inferior to my ego.

    • @NyangisKhan
      @NyangisKhan 6 лет назад +24

      You can pretty much say it was the ancient equivalent of the medieval crossbow or the early modern period musket. Which made regular peasants into killing machines. Also the Han and Tang dynasty crossbowmen would blow your mind.

    • @talknight2
      @talknight2 6 лет назад +4

      Yep. And nowaydays you can round up a bunch of random 18 year old dudes, hand out some guns and in about 2 days of intense practice have them sniping targets at 50 yards.

    • @danielmorris6584
      @danielmorris6584 6 лет назад +1

      Tal Sheynkman. 2 days? Less than 2 hours to "snipe" 50 yards. That's nothing.

    • @ericconnor8251
      @ericconnor8251 6 лет назад +9

      Babe, just wait until you see the size...of my sarissa.

  • @apostolispouliakis7401
    @apostolispouliakis7401 6 лет назад +811

    dekas is Greek for ten, lochoi means battlaions, taxeis means class , lochagos means battalion commander, syntagma means co-unit, seimeoforos means flagbearer, hyperetes means(technically) slave or servant.(for anyone intrested)

    • @tr1stan007
      @tr1stan007 6 лет назад +46

      Awesome, thanks for this!

    • @dojio0749
      @dojio0749 6 лет назад +55

      ouragos=someone that is in the back /follows other in front of him

    • @apostolispouliakis7401
      @apostolispouliakis7401 6 лет назад +6

      i think it could be used for regiment cause battalion and regiment can be mistaken for one another.

    • @user-wr7fc3db9w
      @user-wr7fc3db9w 6 лет назад +5

      the last one.

    • @josuegraao5750
      @josuegraao5750 6 лет назад +54

      Thanks to you, I just found out that the portuguese word for traffic light comes from greek. It's "semáforo". The seimeoforos gave signals to the soldiers, and the semáforo give signals to the drivers. Makes perfect sense! Thanks for the mini greek class. Even made me research the etimology of the word and learn more.

  • @thezeitos469
    @thezeitos469 4 года назад +69

    "If we long pokey stick, then they no hurty hurty us."
    "Make that man king!"

  • @jhondumaop1311
    @jhondumaop1311 4 года назад +65

    How long do you want your pike?
    Philip : Y E S

  • @tr1stan007
    @tr1stan007 6 лет назад +157

    Huge applause for Cogito who made these awesome animations!
    Any questions send them my way!

    • @edwardkenway9225
      @edwardkenway9225 6 лет назад

      Lol

    • @tr1stan007
      @tr1stan007 6 лет назад +29

      Babies come from the Macedonian Phalanx. This is the truth.

    • @UpcycleElectronics
      @UpcycleElectronics 6 лет назад +6

      Hi I'm Phil (not really), and I want to source tens of thousands of big sticks, several tons of weird fabrics, and some funnt half pint shields. How exactly does that happen? How do I go from I want, to I got?
      -Phil-
      What kinds of political and economic struggles underpin such an endeavor? Are we talking stuff made by the army for the army, subcontractors, foreign trade? Somebody had to be saying 'we already have pointy sticks that are 2/3rds the length you want, and you want to spend HOW MUCH TO REPLACE THEM!!! ...and you want to throw out these great full coverage shields for these guys to strap a toddlers chair-seat-joke of a tiny thing to their arm?!?'
      ...what's that story go like?
      -Jake

    • @moazzimalive9578
      @moazzimalive9578 6 лет назад

      Which one of these was stronger thebes or sparta and if there was a third persian invasion what would it be like... please reply

    • @tr1stan007
      @tr1stan007 6 лет назад +4

      That's a very interesting question as not much info. on this survives. Regarding the smaller shields I think Philip saw Iphicrates' reforms as a prototype to equipping his soldiers with longer spears and smaller, lighter shields. It was also much CHEAPER. It was also economically a genius move to replace the heavier body armour with a lighter cuirass and lighter shield as the new sarissa provided the wielder ample protection. Also remember that the Macedonian infantry before this mostly did not have effective weaponry or shields. For them, this small shield and long pike was a HUGE step up from what they previously equipped themselves with. And for Philip it was cost-effective to arm them this way too!.
      Seeing how readily available cornel wood was in Macedonia, it was easily acquirable for the everyday Macedonian. Bronze and iron was readily available too. So I do not think it would have costed Philip that much to create these new weapons en-masse - he was simply taking advantage of Macedonia's most valuable natural resources (timber, iron, bronze) and putting them to good use.
      I think the weapons themselves would have been made by Philip's army in a central arsenal (similar to Philip's arsenal of siege equipment in Pella), but I cannot say for certain as the evidence is not there sadly.

  • @RahimullahQazi
    @RahimullahQazi 6 лет назад +81

    Better then history Channel. Their camera men are drunk.

  • @lukezuzga6460
    @lukezuzga6460 6 лет назад +23

    This was very informative and well done. I really enjoyed the bit about Philip's time at his rival's court. Says so much about a kid that could have been afraid and timid but instead educated himself on their ways of battle. Learned enough to beat them in open combat! Alexander had to learn it somewhere!

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +4

      Yep, Philip built on Epaminondas, Alexander on Philip and so on.

  • @georgegkagka1773
    @georgegkagka1773 3 года назад +35

    I love Greek history and war tactics and the way you portrait them on your videos is just awesome. Keep up the awesome work

    • @ramble_on1
      @ramble_on1 Год назад

      Macedonian and Greek history. They were a bit different but they definitely share the same history

    • @ChronosHellas
      @ChronosHellas Год назад

      @@ramble_on1 same history cry about it, and as your user names implies keep rambling on with your nonsense.

    • @igorivanovski1977
      @igorivanovski1977 Год назад +1

      Macedonians and greeks are not the same !!

    • @georgegkagka1773
      @georgegkagka1773 Год назад +10

      @@igorivanovski1977 Coming from a Western Bulgarian with identity crisis. The ancient Macedonians could be nothing else but Greeks, their culture, names, language, Gods, customs and ancestry were all Greek, their ethnic consciousness was Greek. Modern Macedonians are still Greek, they are the ones that live in Northern Greece, you are not a Macedonian

    • @cule9822
      @cule9822 Год назад

      @@georgegkagka1773tell me 1 proof 1 site 1 and only 1 proof who shows that antic macedonians spoke greek

  • @valorwarrior7628
    @valorwarrior7628 6 лет назад +35

    Oh! speaking about the Phalanx formation, It also reminded me of the warring states period, the Qin, and the Han Chinese Halberdier Phalanx similar to Macedonian Phalanx formations, the only thing is the Chinese used Halberd pikes.
    But Pike and Shield Phalanxes were proven useless to Archer Cavalries using skirmishing hit and run tactics, they would just be mowed down by hails and rains of arrows from Cavalry archers and vulnerable to Pike wielding Lancers when they are routed.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +6

      We will eventually move to the East. :-)

    • @georgerig7946
      @georgerig7946 5 лет назад +4

      Valor Warrior That's way Alexander used the Companion Cavalry to rout horse archers

  • @angelous278leito278
    @angelous278leito278 6 лет назад +4

    Love the tactics breakdown in this sub-series it really brings life to the main series when reviewing strategic battles, thanks for doing this!

  • @omkarunde2040
    @omkarunde2040 6 лет назад +20

    Wow This was the thing which revolutionized the Greek world.👍

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +4

      Yep, Philip's reforms changed it all.

    • @innosanto
      @innosanto 2 года назад

      It was critical. As were the actions of Themistocles with the ships and convincing the people to vote to spend on ships instead of giving to the people as benefits. 2 critical events.

  • @jordandouglas9921
    @jordandouglas9921 6 лет назад +5

    Dude I’m loving the frequency and quality of these videos. Keep up the amazing work

  • @arcgamer295
    @arcgamer295 6 лет назад +17

    Σαρισα the nuclear weapon of the Ancient Greek world ! Great video as always !!!

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +3

      And, as always, we appreciate the feedback! :-)

    • @MELKORBAOUGLIR
      @MELKORBAOUGLIR 4 года назад +1

      In my opinion Sarissa is the tank and Companion Cavalry is the nuclear weapon.

    • @innosanto
      @innosanto 2 года назад

      It wasn't the Sarissa. It was the phallanx that was the nuclear weapon.
      The Sarissa was a good addition to the phalanx.
      Cavalry one of the important aspects to both fight and to protect the disadvantages of phallanx.somethijg Alexander did excellently. And that Macedonians against Romans did very badly and would leave phalanx without cover.

  • @demetriusstiakkogiannakes1326
    @demetriusstiakkogiannakes1326 4 года назад +42

    There is a difference between a kingdom and a city state. Macedon was a kingdom including several states in the region of Macedon(Northern Greece) and all of them were Hellenic. In Ancient Greece Hellenic kingdoms and city states including others like the kingdom of Epirus(which is rarely mentioned) looked each other with hostility and waged war for different reasons but they were all Greek and based themselves into things that will be later classified as Greek by the people of Latium.This is what modern wannabe Macedonian Slavs do not understand and use it as an excuse to prove that Alexander wasn't Hellenic.

    • @argoshellas6717
      @argoshellas6717 3 года назад +13

      @Voskresija Glavin Voskresia... in Greece people still have their ancient names, unlike in your country that you are fully Slavic and with slavic names. Macedon was a part of the Hellenic world, just like Epirus was.
      If was independent, then why did they talked and spread the Hellenistic civilization through the EAST, instead of your "imagined Macedonian" independent culture?
      I will never call my self a "Hellenic" if you tell me a proof that the people of Macedon used different language and religion than other Greeks.
      Even the Illyrians had their own unique language and religion, but you say you are independent "Macedonian", ok , let it be as you say, but give a real proof.
      Every Hellenic region had something unique, but above everything they were Hellenic tribes.

    • @puppetmasterk2
      @puppetmasterk2 2 года назад +1

      Your form of falsely uniting different ethnicities like the macedonians and the grekos is not working. Its funny "modern grekos" celebrating our macedonian kings who destroyed ancient grekos in the past. Well anyway glory to Macedonia !!☀️🇲🇰

    • @greekmacedonianpunisher
      @greekmacedonianpunisher 2 года назад +1

      @@puppetmasterk2 You are dreaming slav from NORTH of Macedonia.

    • @fliksn
      @fliksn 2 года назад +3

      @@puppetmasterk2 dude alexander is greek northmacedonian was founded by greeks and all those kings are probably greeks in acient times

    • @ramble_on1
      @ramble_on1 Год назад

      Wgat you’re referring to was 2300 years ago… therefore todays Macedonians and Greeks have only the territory in connection with that time. Prople wise much have changed… you’re as Slavic as any other Macedonian

  • @gianlucaborg195
    @gianlucaborg195 6 лет назад +1

    This video is much better than anything that National Geographic and/or the History Channel had to offer at their best.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад

      Thank you very much! Both Cogito and Tristan Hughes did a great job on that. :-)

  • @spartankongcountry6799
    @spartankongcountry6799 5 лет назад +1

    You had me hooked throughout the whole video. Fantastic commentary and insight! Definitely enjoyed learning about the macedonians!

  • @rosicroix777
    @rosicroix777 6 лет назад +27

    Great job on the Macedonian Phalanx video, you explained it clearly & made it easy to understand how it was used, the animation went perfectly. Both history buffs & war gamers will get a lot out of it . TY, videos like this make subscribing very worthwhile. Keep up the great work .

  • @bonanapi
    @bonanapi 6 лет назад +47

    Are you going to make a video on the short Theban hegemony itself? I think Epaminondas and Pelopidas are hugely underrated. I absolutely love your video's!

    • @bonanapi
      @bonanapi 6 лет назад +1

      I see that you already made a video on the oblique order, so I should probably watch that..

    • @parmenion2965
      @parmenion2965 6 лет назад +2

      One of the greatest kings Epaminondas he stops spartans once and for all

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +2

      We covered some of it in our video on the Oblique Order, but we'll see.

    • @bonanapi
      @bonanapi 6 лет назад +1

      Kings and Generals Whatever you do, I will be looking forward to the next one. It is real quality content.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +3

      Thanks!

  • @Lou16708
    @Lou16708 6 лет назад +5

    appreciate the effort that goes into these videos it's now my favorite youtube channel, bazbattles is good too but they don't upload frequently enough

  • @Manos_Plakias
    @Manos_Plakias 6 лет назад +6

    As always another great video!!!

  • @kenmasters2034
    @kenmasters2034 4 года назад +15

    I love Greek history.Its the best.

    • @user-fi4by6br6k
      @user-fi4by6br6k 3 года назад +1

      Khm khm Macedonian

    • @zlatko6846
      @zlatko6846 3 года назад +1

      Macedonian history

    • @zlatko6846
      @zlatko6846 3 года назад

      Greeks is not macedonian snd never was, they stole the history

    • @sotirismakr3380
      @sotirismakr3380 2 года назад +2

      @@zlatko6846 stop stealing history and try to make your own

    • @psi1378
      @psi1378 2 года назад

      @@zlatko6846 how can someone steal history you bozo!

  • @salgarcia8021
    @salgarcia8021 6 лет назад +15

    Only notification I have on from RUclips. Which says A lot. If you tube gave awards for time watching youtube I would get a 🌟

  • @gianlucaborg195
    @gianlucaborg195 6 лет назад +1

    There is no word that can illustrate how awesome this was to watch! Keep it up (I also love the Phalanx)

  • @vazak11
    @vazak11 4 года назад

    Quality content as always, this gives me such a clear vision of ancient warfare.

  • @rasaecnai
    @rasaecnai 4 года назад +5

    literally for the phalanx men, "if we stay together, we survive"
    reference to the Gladiator movie.

  • @basvanderhorst9633
    @basvanderhorst9633 6 лет назад +25

    Amazing video! Good job, again!

  • @zriiksparks5637
    @zriiksparks5637 6 лет назад +1

    The video we’ve all been waiting for

  • @blakerobson9312
    @blakerobson9312 6 лет назад +2

    this channel is just so amazing, its tax time down here in Australia so as soon as all of mine is wrapped up, i think i owe it to you guys to become a patron

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад

      We appreciate the thought. It is not and will never we mandatory, but every little bit helps.

  • @leap4203
    @leap4203 5 лет назад +16

    Proud to be greek and live in makedonia and great video bro

    • @prcp4328
      @prcp4328 3 года назад +1

      If you are proud as a Greek, imagine how proud we Macedonians are :D

    • @leap4203
      @leap4203 3 года назад +6

      @@prcp4328 give me 2 facts that prove that you are related to ancient makedonias

    • @prcp4328
      @prcp4328 3 года назад

      @@leap4203
      When the Slavs came here, did they eat the Macedonians or did they melt with them?

    • @leap4203
      @leap4203 3 года назад +5

      @@prcp4328 they lived in the northern borders of the byzantine empire as a threat your country is basically Bulgaria if you chech ancient makedonias writing is the same with the spartan bcs they were doric greek and you say they blend in that doesn't make them makedonias there isn't 1 man or woman in this planet that is 100% 1 ethnicity that doesn't make them greek Italian or anything else if I am 2%german it doesn't matter I speak greek like my ancestors and we know in fact that ancient makedonias spoke doric greek worshipped greek gods a d even participated in the Olympics something that only greek could moreover Aristotle that all know him as a greek philosopher is from makedonia from stagira a village near olinthos so your point about slavs that came in 6th century 900 years after the makedonian empire is just nonsense

    • @prcp4328
      @prcp4328 3 года назад +1

      @@leap4203 Now we write in English, are we Englishmans?
      I do not see any danger from any country and if you are so confident in yourself, do not persecute Macedonians, Turks and Albanians. When they get their rights in the occupied territories, you will not have a majority in your country. Time will tell. Remember my words

  • @tancreddehauteville9983
    @tancreddehauteville9983 6 лет назад +5

    Love the new intro and video keep on shining guys🤗👍

  • @maurogigliotti1911
    @maurogigliotti1911 6 лет назад +2

    So Hype, great work yet again!

  • @silverarrow390
    @silverarrow390 6 лет назад +2

    This chanel is Epic. I was specialy happy to see some of famous Polish battles covered: Kircholm and Grunwald. Thx for this. Looking forward to see more.

  • @grahamcochran5400
    @grahamcochran5400 6 лет назад +4

    For me Phillip's reforms had the biggest impact on the other divisions of the army. The center phalanx was extremely important, but during and after both Philip and Alexander's reign it was bested by its contemporary Greek counterparts until it was saved by other divisions of the army separate to it (Battle of Chaeronea, Battle of Issus, Battle of Sellassia). I hope yall do a video over the improvement of the calvary and light troops of the Macedonians, and those reforms for me helped them the most in the flexibility needed to support a pike phalanx.

  • @greekemperor9677
    @greekemperor9677 6 лет назад +20

    What an amazing performance!! Historically accurate and entertaining!! It makes every Greek Proud!! Thank you!!

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +2

      Thank you for watching :)

    • @tonyalb3863
      @tonyalb3863 5 лет назад +2

      GreekEmperor
      pfffff Todays so called "Greeks"
      have nothing in common with
      old ancient Pelasgians !
      Your so called modern "greek"
      language is completely different language
      from the original Pelasgian language

    • @tonyalb3863
      @tonyalb3863 4 года назад +1

      Ilija Stojanoski
      Shut up
      You SLAVIC shit !
      Go back to Russia you fake
      Where is your old
      Macedonian Language !
      Ohh almost forgot
      that you are Slav Shit
      That speaks Slavic Language
      and has a Slavic Name and Last name

    • @mareksagrak9527
      @mareksagrak9527 2 года назад +1

      @@tonyalb3863 It is scientifically proven (by thorough examination of toponyms) that before the Hellenes arrived to Hellada and created the Mycenean culture, Greece was inhabited by two populations: an unknown indoeuropean Anatolian tribe, probably akin to Hettites or Luvians, and some continuators of pre-indoeuropean neolithic farmers. Though both these populations spoke of course languages different than Greek, a lot of their vocabulary transferred into ancient Greek language.
      Keep in mind that names like Pelasgians, Lelegians were mentioned for the first time in Homer (a lot of centuries after the arrival of Greeks) and therefore they seem to be rather an invention, a way to express some distant, nearly mythical memories of not being indigenous to the land, rather than names representing some truly existing prehistoric tribes.
      Of course these 'Pelasgians' were just a minor prehistoric tribe without any historical importance and had nothing in common with Albanians, who hadn't appeared in Greece sooner than approximately 1200 CE when they started to invade Acarnania and Thessaly and in 1400 CE when they were invited by Catalonians to colonise almost depopulated Attica and by Venetians to protect the Peloponesian fortresses.

  • @mdgarciasa
    @mdgarciasa 6 лет назад +1

    this channel keeps getting better and better... keep up the good work!!!

  • @mojungle3054
    @mojungle3054 5 лет назад

    I love these ancient loadout videos. Please make more!

  • @m.meiburger1970
    @m.meiburger1970 6 лет назад +295

    Guess when alexander fought the indian war elephants he was like *thanks for the sarissa daddy*

    • @yllbardh
      @yllbardh 6 лет назад +5

      if so why didn't he continued further in to india?

    • @TheDutchGeneral
      @TheDutchGeneral 6 лет назад +148

      His army just didn't wanna fight anymore, they had left their homes 10 years earlier and wanted to go back.

    • @Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
      @Bullet-Tooth-Tony- 6 лет назад +48

      +Ludwin V You call 1,000 casualties heavy as opposed to the slaughter of Porus's army ( he lost 12,000 men) just for the record

    • @rik73764
      @rik73764 6 лет назад +23

      Seleucus got spanked by Chandragupta Maurya in the Seleucid-Mauryan war, 3rd century BCE.

    • @Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
      @Bullet-Tooth-Tony- 6 лет назад +30

      +RB
      Seleucus was no where near as brilliant as Alexander, so you've lost all credibility, if Alexander and his 50,000 veterans took on Chandragupta, he would destroy him. There was no army more powerful in the world at the time than the 50,000 battle hardened Macedonians under Alexander that had been winning battles for 8 years and conquered half the known world.

  • @moritztabor7804
    @moritztabor7804 6 лет назад +3

    Thanks so much for your work.
    Greetings from germany

  • @KillerBPlaying
    @KillerBPlaying 6 лет назад +1

    Ohhh boyyy a new video !! Great work

  • @kenis77
    @kenis77 4 года назад +1

    Your videos are so good man. Very interesting and well made!!

  • @Filipas-el9sp
    @Filipas-el9sp 4 года назад +4

    when you see a greek word ending with "oi" that means the word is in plural form. So you have to pronounce it like the "o" never existed. So when reading the word ignore the "o". oi = i in the end of a greek word.

    • @victor_rybin
      @victor_rybin 3 года назад

      only in modern greek, in ancient languages all letters were pronounced, and historians pronounce them in the original, ancient manner

    • @Filipas-el9sp
      @Filipas-el9sp 3 года назад

      @@victor_rybin 🤦‍♂️not even modern greeks know how letters like 'ω' were pronounced in ancient Greece. But modern greeks pronounce it exactly like 'o'.

    • @Filipas-el9sp
      @Filipas-el9sp 3 года назад

      @@victor_rybin there is no WRITTEN rule by the ancient Greeks when it comes to the accent of the word, so it's impossible to know how they say a word

  • @user-cn2hy8jw1e
    @user-cn2hy8jw1e 6 лет назад +14

    GREEK HISTORY!!

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +5

      With more on the way.

    • @pasal99
      @pasal99 5 лет назад +5

      @Ilija Stojanoski that's a propaganda tito made in order to occupy thesaly and Macedonia greek regions . You are slavs and you came to Balkans top years after the fall of Macedonian empire . Also macedon is a ancient greek word (μακεδνος means the tall man or the man that lives in the mountains.)

    • @tatjanavelkova5814
      @tatjanavelkova5814 2 месяца назад

      MAKEDONIJA ---- 25 CENTURIES IN SOUTH EVROPA ! ! ! ! !

  • @thebestofhockey8684
    @thebestofhockey8684 6 лет назад +1

    Great video Kings and Generals! I love the intro!

  • @asgardplays7139
    @asgardplays7139 6 лет назад +2

    I love these ancient maps... this is such a nice detail work :) Well done :)

  • @alfiansofakhair4630
    @alfiansofakhair4630 6 лет назад +37

    Next.....
    *MACEDONIAN CAVALRY*

  • @abdulbahajaj4591
    @abdulbahajaj4591 6 лет назад +3

    Good job. There are many channels that talk about how genius generals are but no one really talks about how the army came to existence or who formed it and how. Please make more videos like this. Perhaps talk about the romans, persians, arabs, mongols, etc? Thanks.

  • @NostalgosTouRockNRoll
    @NostalgosTouRockNRoll 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks for this awesome video! Keep up the great work!

  • @yunghung7640
    @yunghung7640 6 лет назад +1

    I'm so glad you put out this video I was just thinking about it today

  • @emperordemetrius3832
    @emperordemetrius3832 6 лет назад +7

    Kings and Generals very nice vid!
    Could you do a video about the Byzantine armies during the time of Basil II?

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +3

      Thanks! This series will move through the XX century, so the Byzantine armies will be covered.

  • @Eliphas_
    @Eliphas_ 6 лет назад +5

    The Macedonian in 7:28 be like: “Fuck the phalanx i go yolo”
    He also reminds me of Pullo

  • @craigminchin593
    @craigminchin593 3 года назад

    Really thorough research and interesting presentation.

  • @SamuelHallEngland
    @SamuelHallEngland 6 лет назад +2

    Yay vid of the week!

  • @HxH2011DRA
    @HxH2011DRA 6 лет назад +8

    *Absolute Unit*

  • @alexalex-si4hl
    @alexalex-si4hl 5 лет назад +4

    Lochagos, salpingetes, dekades, ipiretis, taxeis. All words still used in greek. And tgere are still people saying that Macedon was not Hellenistic.

  • @theprogenitor951
    @theprogenitor951 6 лет назад +1

    Keep up the great work!!! You don't find content like this anywhere on RUclips.

  • @milanTHErocker
    @milanTHErocker 6 лет назад +1

    Gotta love your videos. Great job!

  • @YOQUE2xgpxTRiu
    @YOQUE2xgpxTRiu 6 лет назад +10

    The famous phalanx!

  • @perretlaurent6665
    @perretlaurent6665 6 лет назад +5

    Good video men ! It's nice to add Iphicratès within because nobody talks about him. But the hoplon is not the shield, hoplon means weapon. For the great shield, the word is aspis. And for the sarissa, we are not sure that Philip used them in 359. It's possible but not at 100%.

  • @davidalcibar1682
    @davidalcibar1682 3 года назад

    Thank you for the excellent content!

  • @justinlabrosse8506
    @justinlabrosse8506 6 лет назад +2

    Oh yeah I'm loving the tactic series

  • @alecsis882
    @alecsis882 6 лет назад +3

    Hey guys! Great video as always. I always learn something new from your videos, and the animations are great. I wanted to ask you this question: would you consider doing a video of comparison between the greek phalanxes(?, i hope this is the right plural, correct if i am wrong) from the begining of the 2nd century BC against the roman legions? It was/is clear that the greeks had superior forces to the roman hastati and prinicipes, being matched only by the Triarii(which weren't really used), yet the genius roman generals managed to win the war with Makedon in 197 B.C.(E.) and eventually with the rest of Greece. Ok, i think i bothered you enough. Have a great day:))

    • @user-cd4bx6uq1y
      @user-cd4bx6uq1y 8 месяцев назад +1

      And they actually did it by the time I'm writing this

  • @fifervonpiper6707
    @fifervonpiper6707 5 лет назад +16

    Phillip II's New Innovative ideas
    *recruit more peasants*
    *give some cheaply made light armour*
    *make overly long pointy sticks*
    *teabag the enemy with his new long pointy bois*

    • @innosanto
      @innosanto 2 года назад

      Phillip would make opponents weaker through leading them to fight each other. Not only through fighting.

  • @dukehazard6478
    @dukehazard6478 4 месяца назад

    Great video very insightful

  • @populistrevolution5197
    @populistrevolution5197 6 лет назад +1

    I love it all. The colours the pictures, is just a genius way explain

  • @ragnarlothbrok4281
    @ragnarlothbrok4281 5 лет назад +6

    Grey Worm should have watched this before the battle of Winterfell.

  • @alexandrosaristovoulos4718
    @alexandrosaristovoulos4718 6 лет назад +6

    The video was as always excellent. I am writing this because it just sounds so wrong reading these combinations of letters one letter at a time and it must also be harder for you to say them like that.
    So here is my greek pronunciation lesson:
    ai, e are pronounced like the e in strength
    oi, ei, i are pronounced like the i in evidence
    ou is pronounced like the oo in look.
    Anyway keep up the good work :)

  • @sayandas2218
    @sayandas2218 6 лет назад +1

    Wonderful video from Kings and Generals

  • @Chris689200
    @Chris689200 6 лет назад

    The only disappointing thing about this channel is that there is never any surprise: every video is great.

  • @4pplypr3ssure
    @4pplypr3ssure 6 лет назад +10

    so you guys we're planning to make a series like this but it's all about 16-17th century? for me i favored that era cuase guns and sword/pike can co exist at the same time and cavalry is still op in that era

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +1

      We will get there.

    • @worsethanjoerogan8061
      @worsethanjoerogan8061 6 лет назад +1

      Mr. LiLskie Yeah cavalry remained prominent until WWI. A hapless British general even attempted to use cavalry tactics against a machine gun lined trench.
      Shows how attached military minds were to cav warfare

  • @gregoralani
    @gregoralani 6 лет назад +5

    WOW ita the same thing now just like then loxos-taksiarxia-sundagma ,loxagos and etc just amazing.

  • @oooip953
    @oooip953 5 лет назад +1

    One of the best war channels along with @BazBattles on RUclips. Keep up the good work :)

  • @christermi
    @christermi 6 лет назад +1

    When it is Thursday and K&G uploads a new video , you know that this is gonna be a good day indeed ;-)

  • @agentofchaos2750
    @agentofchaos2750 6 лет назад +20

    Ah, yes, Philip the second of Macedon. Perhaps on of the most underappreciated characters of his time, and too often over shadowed by his son, "Alexander the Pretty Alright". Phillip''s brilliance revolutionized warfare from a centuries' old tradition and paved the way for his son to become one of the most well known conquerors in history.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +10

      Philip is a proof, that you always need to build on the shoulders of the ones who came before you. :-)

  • @rasaecnai
    @rasaecnai 5 лет назад +4

    Macedonian National Ideas
    Peasant Class Levy: +10% National Manpower Modifier
    Light Armor: +1 Land Leader Maneuver
    Sarissa: +10% Infantry Combat Ability
    Continuous Training: +1 Army Tradition per Year
    Macedonian Phalanx: +10% Army Morale
    Revolutionary Warfare System: +10 Discipline
    Dayum. Macedonian army was space marines of their time!

  • @KHK001
    @KHK001 6 лет назад +2

    Amazing video Kings and generals! again!!!

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +1

      Thank you, appreciate the feedback! :-)

    • @KHK001
      @KHK001 6 лет назад +1

      i appreciate you answering it :)

  • @flatearthfatboy9589
    @flatearthfatboy9589 6 лет назад +2

    Incredible its about time someone highlighted Philip's genius, Alexander has hoarded all the credit for everything Philip did

  • @babispapoulidis957
    @babispapoulidis957 5 лет назад +26

    epirus was a greek kingdom as well

  • @thepuppelpuppel4175
    @thepuppelpuppel4175 6 лет назад +4

    Today is a good day

  • @megan1445
    @megan1445 4 года назад +1

    I am doing Bible study on the successions of ancient kingdoms. This video was fantastic to learn, especially more on how it was actually Phillip who paved the way for Alexander.

  • @Jacobo9699
    @Jacobo9699 6 лет назад

    Great guys!
    Keep going!

  • @KeithShuler
    @KeithShuler 6 лет назад +9

    Great job as always! So I'm guessing Phillip borrowed the oblique battle tactic from Thebes?

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +3

      Thank you! Yes, in a way. He took cavalry ideas from Thebes, and infantry ideas from Athens.

    • @FranciscoChagas-ij4cs
      @FranciscoChagas-ij4cs 2 года назад

      Filipo habia tenido ocasion de conocer durante su juventud, cuando residia como rehen en Tebas, la "formacion oblicua" de Epaminondas, y, una vez elevado al trono, lá introdujo en aquel ejercito configurado y concebido por el de tan distinto modo. Epaminondas habia realizado la ofensiva con sus tropas de a pie. Filipo transfiro esta funcion a su caballeria de "Heteros", mucho mejor preparada para eso. (WILCKEN, 1951,pg. 285, 286)

  • @gold_leader_g1964
    @gold_leader_g1964 5 лет назад +90

    Macedonians were another ancient greek nation like sparta and athens

    • @hardcoredoom5892
      @hardcoredoom5892 4 года назад +18

      gold_leader _g1: Many did not accept Macedonians as Greeks until they conquered Persia.
      Sorry, but Macedonians are superior to Greeks.

    • @pimpforever1214
      @pimpforever1214 4 года назад +5

      NO WE ARE NOT!!

    • @Hugh_Morris
      @Hugh_Morris 4 года назад +32

      Macedonians were Greeks but were looked down on as backwards and barbarous for many years by the other Greek states. Those same Greek states were looked down on as backwards and barbarous by many Romans when they were conquered.

    • @megan1445
      @megan1445 4 года назад +2

      @@Blake4014 I think it was something like "oh pooh" lol

    • @ValorVisionaries
      @ValorVisionaries 4 года назад +11

      Many Greek historians and philosophers from Ancient Greece always refered to them as Greeks

  • @jasondameron815
    @jasondameron815 6 лет назад

    I really appreciate these 2 thumbs up

  • @astonmaxx8338
    @astonmaxx8338 6 лет назад +1

    When I studied history at school, I never could understand why phalanx of Philip II and Alexander were so deadly. Now seeing this video I understood. It was like a modern tank division destroying anyone on its way. Your videos must be included in school curriculum.

  • @Ash-we6be
    @Ash-we6be 6 лет назад +4

    Long wait

  • @shizukajoestar614
    @shizukajoestar614 4 года назад +6

    Ancient Greece: *Exists*
    Philip II and the Kingdom of Macedonia: Its free real estate

    • @manos7haros699
      @manos7haros699 4 года назад +2

      Macedonia was a ancient Greece kingdom and BTW they didn't conquer all the Greek mainland

    • @tatjanavelkova5814
      @tatjanavelkova5814 2 месяца назад

      MAKEDONIJA EXIST 25 CENTURIES from KING FILIP .
      Oto german make Greece before 190 years.

  • @lyleleek
    @lyleleek 5 лет назад +1

    Really great video I loved it! 👍

  • @Kwak444
    @Kwak444 6 лет назад +2

    Interesting stuff. Subscribed!

  • @emperordemetrius3832
    @emperordemetrius3832 6 лет назад +71

    Well, we can safely say that Alexander and Philip were the greatest Greek leaders ever!!!

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +30

      I prefer Plato or Socrates, but that is just me. :-)

    • @7ultras157
      @7ultras157 6 лет назад +5

      Kings and Generals I will agree with you in this one

    • @thatguy6919
      @thatguy6919 6 лет назад +8

      Lmao you just dont know much about Greek history, theres Cimon Alcibiades, Pericles, Socrates Plato Aristotle, Thesus

    • @marijamare8718
      @marijamare8718 5 лет назад +7

      They weren't Greek. They were Macedonian.

    • @marijamare8718
      @marijamare8718 5 лет назад +4

      @@MrYoyoman12345 you wish lol

  • @zanetastoimenova2813
    @zanetastoimenova2813 4 года назад +6

    When Macedonian sends a person in a war he gives to him a piece from his heart, to lead him, and he is over there with him, in good and in bad. In the end, good or bad, that piece of heart will be returned to him and he is with him no matter where he is.

  • @ArchCone
    @ArchCone 5 лет назад +1

    Amazing work.

  • @deathmeizter
    @deathmeizter 5 лет назад

    Awesome. Its so nice to play Total war when this guy is around

  • @what8080
    @what8080 6 лет назад +4

    2 things, first of all very amazing video, in absolutely impressed yet again by the hard work and dedication of the people behind this channel, this was a very well made video indeed.
    2nd thing, I have a small question, you mentioned that a section of the formation would put wield their spears in a 45 degree angle yo protect them from incoming projectiles, in very curious as to how this would work as I don't exactly understand how their sarissas could possibly block arrows being thrown at them.
    Thank you again for your video.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад

      Thank you very much! The projectile defense wasn't foolproof, but it offered some protection.

    • @ethnicity
      @ethnicity 6 лет назад

      If you hold a colander above your head when it rains, you'll still get wet, but not nearly as wet if you didn't.

  • @siou3268
    @siou3268 4 года назад +23

    Τοο many Hellenic words...
    I really wonder how just a few people today, still believe Makedonians were not Greeks...

    • @scotchitona5047
      @scotchitona5047 3 года назад +10

      Well that’s because this is the Ancient Hellenic Macedonia. Not the modern Slavic Macedonia.

    • @siou3268
      @siou3268 3 года назад +4

      @@scotchitona5047 many thanks for your clarification

    • @bradenglass4753
      @bradenglass4753 3 года назад +5

      Because Macedonians were Greeks, not slavs. Glad to clear that up.

    • @radogost1536
      @radogost1536 3 года назад

      modern makedonians (slavs) claim that they are the natives of the balkans, as well as slovenes, serbs and croats. its not just some extraordinary claim without evidence, a lot of experts on slavs think that too. i think its just a matter of time before the 200 year old german propaganda gets debunked.

    • @siou3268
      @siou3268 3 года назад +2

      @@radogost1536 I guess that if they accept to be Macedonians and not slavs, they have to be part of Greece.
      Phillip = freind of horses
      Alexander = The man who repel other men
      etc...
      All of the Hellenic words I think...

  • @CMDRSloma
    @CMDRSloma 6 лет назад +1

    It's a great video again. I hope sometime you're going to make a series about Winged Hussars because those were an magnificent elite cavalry units