Anti-Healing ISN'T OP - Overwatch 2
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Anti-Healing isn't op in Overwatch. Your Supports aren't trash. You're just bad :P
And I'll prove it as Ramattra!!!
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Damn, I'm SO GLAD that people from Paladins are actually spreading an information to OW player of HOW TO PLAY THE GAME LUL
As someone that plays support often, i wish more people would just back up when they are low instead of engaging the whole team at 1hp and then blaming the supports.
you sound aggressively vegan, not at all commenting on the video at hand or its correctness
Real footage of your skilless ass crying abt this man actually showing how antigealing aint that bad
I'm half vegan, on my dad's side, so that checks out
@@LICH_REAPER im glad you understand i wasn't commenting out of hate, It was just something that kept mentally pinging at me like "that's interesting" .... "that's interesting" like some npc in Skyrim
@@LICH_REAPERtf is half vegan??
My dad is vegan, but my mom isn't! @@I_am_Uncut
Wouldn't say the delivery of this video was the best but literally here at 2:33 when you walked behind a wall and got healed... it's so simple but tanks in Dia-Masters don't even do it, they'd most likely stand in the middle with their block up and think it's enough or a Rein would rather let his shield break than just use the wall when the shield isn't needed.
honestly id say your about a mid to high sliver player if you were to play comp not bad since you don't seem to play the game but you haven't seen the worst of this passive on hero's that are considered tank busters as well as the fact that this passive is applied even if you take one bit of damage from a dps pls it stacks with zens discord orb that and many other reasons is why they consider it OP
but overall good vid you do give some advice the metal rank players need to hear and listen to
side note with orisa you could of made it work if you focused the backline with orisas long ranged weapon and not the dva Lucio on point as you had no dps follow up in that fight especially since your a really passive player
the fact you cant see antiheal isnt a criticism it's, well a fact
Okay Mr. Specific lemme go back in time and pull my past-self's teeth out
its both a criticism and a fact though?
Thank you for the god tier advice
DPS passive is too strong, and supports are still filled with BS. The problems people had before this change still exist, they are just overshadowed by the passive.
Every champ in Paladins has the DPS passive AND it goes up to 90% Anti-Heal. It's absolutely not overpowered.
@@LICH_REAPER I haven't played Paladins in years so I can't speak on that, but Overwatch has some heroes where if you play them, the DPS passive will essentially make it harder for that specific hero to be a viable pick, even against a fair match up.
Mauga has one of, if not the biggest, hitbox in Overwatch, and he is essentially unplayable against the DPS passive.
If Overwatch was still in 6v6, you could have an off-tank mess with the dps so you're not constantly being focused, but with only 1 tank, you need to be the one who makes room for the team, even if you can't.
@@FancyDakota I do agree that being able to have an off-tank would be useful. But if you're a solo off-tank, sometimes it's just best to not play the point at all.
@@LICH_REAPER Yeah, they dug themselves into a hole with 5v5. But your video more than anything highlights that positioning is very important even if Overwatch is a more arcadey shooter. People often underestimate good game sense.
A lot of Tanks just can't take space, and with 5v5 they're essentially a throw pick. 😭
One strat as someone who plays Orisa , you can use your javelin spin at the start of the round since it makes you faster , because the cooldown isn't that long for you to need it right after you get into the fight.
Ok I’ve watched like 5 of your videos from different time both new and old and you sounded either hyper gay or the most generic white boi ever I’m so confused either way love the content
Teehee I'm just silly like that
the way u talk is unbearable
Yeah i know cuz hes gay or smth its so cringe
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I agree that the reaction to the new dps passive was mostly tik tok bronze players who are madge because they have the game sense of a piece of paper. However it's a little disingenuous to lump the healing *reduction* passive into the same group as anti-heal.
Anti-heal (namely ana grenade as JQ's is fine) is a problem because in OW you either can't die or you're folded like a lawn chair so 3s of no healing at all is a death sentence depending on the hero. For instance you played Orisa for a tank that doesn't have a shield but she still has her spin and she is a wall in general so anti doesn't effect her to the same degree. Take a tank like Mauga or JQ who survive purely off life-steal or Roadhog who has his vape, their kits rely on being hyper aggressive so "just play behind cover" doesn't work when you have to peak to do anything and you have the biggest hit-boxes in the game. It's especially egregious in the low ranks but I still feel this issue as a tank player in plat/diamond range as the instant there is an Ana my team's playstyle becomes hunting down Ana like it's DBD.
That's just when I have actual communication though, in solo queue you can forget coordination like that until you get at least up to diamond/masters. What makes it worse is the higher rank you go the more you literally can't just sit behind a corner and wait everything out as the meta right now is dive/brawl so if you do that you'll just be sent back to spawn. The only option is to push in close/ dive the backline cause that's what the comp is but even if you're as careful as you can be doing that, the instant you show yourself Ana hits you with every ability the instant it's off cooldown. The extra health kind of helps the issue with grenade but you can still see this issue with the random pointless sleep darts that are done now by nearly every Ana player up until higher ranks. They get no value from it realistically but they do it anyways because they want to hit button and the tank is the easiest target for hitting buttons on. Counter swapping also is way harder with ana on board. For instance let's say they're running sigma and you're running a brawl comp, Ram, Rein or Zarya would be the ideal picks to counter so you swap.... You then proceed to get rocked, slept and anti-ed while dps (especially bastion) shreds you into tiny pieces.
That was a very dumbed down example but I think it shows my point well enough. The instant Ana shows up the entire game has to shift around the Ana as she single-handedly shuts down a majority of the available counterplay unless your supports swap Kiriko but in solo queue tank is 95% of the time the only role the counter-swaps when below diamond. I know I sound like a broken record saying "in higher ranks" but it's genuinely what it comes down to most of the time. Rein has never gotten buffed because in bronze/silver he is a menace as he requires no aim and the enemy team doesn't know how to play around him. Ana is in a similar spot as the lower in rank you go the more she terrorizes as healing is pushed into the tank more than anyone else AND everyone focuses them so the dps isn't dealing with the supports like they need to.The issues with Ana have gotten slightly better in theory with s9 health buffs but in practice it's gotten worse as Zen orb+DPS passive has become another version of the same issue and they can be stacked which means tanks are shredded even more.
So while yes I agree with you that the DPS passive itself isn't an issue, it's how it's combined in a specific use-case that makes it one* (in that one scenario). The main issue is purple anti-heal and any hero/ability that has the level of effect it does just by existing is a legitimate issue no matter how much people say otherwise.
Dang bro wrote a whole essay 👏👏👏
I do agree with ya, though. Now that all DPSes have Anti-Heal I think Ana's grenade could use a bit of a nerf.
People forget.. that while supports are there to heal you.. It's YOUR job to manage your HP. If you go into a fight with less HP then you can do what you want and get out safely and you die it's your fault, not your supports. Supports healing you allows you to reengage, push further and save you from your own mistakes. Also a little tip.. every single character in this game has access to shields... they are called walls... Use them
EXACTLY
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Very well put together video meow
thamk you morbit
Why this dude coaching his own bronze gameplay strat? 😂😂
Well, the anti-heal thing is blown out of proportion because it matters in two different ways in two different elo tiers. In low tiers, players aren’t smart enough to slow down and get the healing they need since they’re still used to face tanking damage that can be outhealed. In high elo, players don’t have the luxury of playing slow because it’s dive meta, so just hiding around a corner isn’t going to stop a tracer, ball, Lucio, and maybe the soldier and zen from chasing. Though if you’re playing around high gold to diamond, you’re completely right. It’s just a case where dumber players aren’t smart enough to play corners, and the top 1% of players are facing other top 1% of players who won’t let them play safe with the anti-heal, making it basically a, “which team dies first” situation instead of a prolonged fight.
Edit: plus low elo probably is having more issues with the fact players can hit their shots now, on top of anti-heal, so they’re just not used to the faster pace, meanwhile higher play has always been fast, now it’s even faster
As for your gameplay, just by admittance that you’ve only got 30 hours in Overwatch means that you’re more likely than not playing with players near or below the average ranking for Overwatch, which is somewhere in Gold 3. You’re playing perfectly in the right elo to be smart enough to use the environment while your enemies are still pretty brain dead. I’d assume if you put in the time, you could pretty easily climb up to at least Diamond and slow down at high Masters where just being smart isn’t enough.
Unrelated, I dislike your voice, but that’s nothing to do with your thoughts on the matter. Overall, good assessment of the game. Advice would apply to at least 50% of the player base.
Amazing way to say this
I don't get it. Is the joke of the video that you're pretending to be right about a subjective thing?
Objectively, anti-healing makes tanks and supports weaker than they were the season before. It offset the balance of power.
Subjectively, you can like or dislike it.
As a paladins and overwatch player, antihealing became such a major problem in paladins they did a system wide overhaul to it to keep it fair across the board. Its why the time to kill in Paladins is much faster.
Traditionally, Overwatch is a much slower game, with a focus on tanks holding space.
The anti healing changed the play style of every tank to be significantly more passive and die faster.
You can like or dislike this.
Making a weirdly aggressive video where you demonstrate that you can play around antihealing is pretty much... Besides the point?
You're kinda weird
The point was that people's comments on why they couldn't play around anti-healing weren't accurate.
@@LICH_REAPER oh gotcha. So you were responding to a thing nobody ever said. Totally fair.
I guess if I were responding to a position that nobody holds, I could always get as passive aggressive and whiny as I could.
Anyways, I shant be watching further vids, as you are pretty insufferable.
@@LICH_REAPER why heart my comment? I'm openly making fun of you for being a bad content creator 😭
@@asimplewizard I literally put screenshots of comments saying exactly what I'm talking about in the video idk bruh.
@@asimplewizard cause I'm a silly guy
Dva got back his mek 3 times in the same fight... bruh...
But paladins
Has
Base kit of a champion then talents then load outs then in match item purchase
Ow2 has nothing
This man said, hold my beer, Ima do it myself
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you are probably better than most people i encounter while playing qp. much more cautious with your life and i love it. keep up the good work
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Ow players would die irl with 90% caut
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So after watching this video, I’ve realized you don’t understand what “anti healing” is. Anti healing are abilities such as Ana’s nano grenade and zen’s discord orb.
All of which throughout the video you ran into literally zero of.
As someone who’s been to top 500 in OW 1 you definitely aren’t one that should be talking on this matter. You showed how to effectively play tank yes, but you literally did nothing to show how to play around strong anti healing abilities. I can point out several times in the video where you’d be dead if they’d discord orb’d you or nano’d you. This 20% dps thing isn’t anti healing. It’s just a balance change to make it so things like pocketing aren’t as effective from my understanding.
It is definitely a lot more valid to claim that a healing reduction is an antiheal (dps passive) than claiming a damage increasing ability is an antiheal (discord)
In Paladins, my main game, the effect is called Anti-Healing. Maybe I used the wrong term, but I was referring to the new DPS passive in this video and that's what I was playing around.
@@LICH_REAPER Which is why I said I don’t think you understand what true “anti healing” is in OW. I used to play paladins (strix main) so I understand where the confusion came from. The new dps buff seems like anti heal but it isn’t, it’s just an attempt to make dps more effective because the healing pool is so high.
@@larry702 but my point was, that it isn’t the type of anti-heal people say is broken. Zen’s discord orb increases incoming damage by 30% while the dps passive only decreases healing by 20%. Which means in combination that’s essentially a total of 50% extra damage dps can do, however discord otb makes up more than half of that 50%
20% IS NOTHING. People that say thats OP have a skill issue.
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As someone whit 1k hours in this game you are really bloody good at this game, I also agree dps passive isn't op you just need to play corners and play whit your sups as tank
he honestly looks like he doesnt have any idea whats going on imo but he also had a good strategy
My 1k hours in paladins bleeds over a tad I guess
I don't know the details but I got the point! XD
Tyty just don't ask me to play anyone except Ramattra or Moira
@@LICH_REAPER do wrecking ball tutorial next pls🙏
@@EliiKlee HA I have maybe 3 minutes on that guy
Ow stream when?
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For a person with 30 hours on overwatch, u playing really well.
All your execution was slow but good if u putting time and effort on this u could easily a really good player.
If want to play Ram try to use more ur block because sometimes u can block punch block punch to be more effective.
And u punch can pass through shield, lucio could be easily kill.
And use ur combat form when u coming out from spawn to get the faster speed and get some advantage point first.
Anyway it totally true what u saying the 20% heal debuff i not even feeling it, and the passive heal save me so much time on tank i don't know how people can say it don't affects tanks.
Ty for the tips I'll try to use em!!